/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>28052026
Nah but come back once Veibae has told her 1000th dick joke in a row.

>>28052026
No, but they took Coco and Rushia in for their jp branch. This sounds like a shitpost but it's real.

>>28052026
Phase Connect is going to destroy VShitshow

How long? Because they've made big steps lately.

>>28052026
No, they paid Kson a bunch of money to shill them. It was pretty cringe.

>>28052225
Yes I know but when that happened, I was promised that Hololive was done. And now I hear rumors about new EN gen and that can't be right if Hololive is done?

>>28052026
In 1 month after the inevitable VShitshow Next debacle, Phase Connect is going to overtake the Western VTubing Sphere by storm a la Hololive 2019-2020

>>28052350
So how long is a "while" in your eyes? 2 days?

>>28052259
Ironmouse, probably the biggest VShojo streamer, did a panel with Connor at AX and if I remember correctly, they got 30K viewers for what was a huge event.

Gura got 30K viewers playing WWE, alone, on a random stream.

Marine and Shion got 50K CCV just talking to each other recently.

I think it's safe to say the answer is "never".

>>28052395
Let him cope when VShitshow keeps bleeding their own fans here as Phase Connect becomes their sponge just like they have been for the disillusioned Nijibros lately.

>>28052281
This broke my heart. I never expect Kson to stoop so low.

>>28052026
No but they're taking Sana NEXT :(

>>28052586
Oh fuck. Well. RIP in peace, Yagoo.

>>28052449
>VShitshow keeps bleeding their own fans
BUT Why?
Also, with the VshojoJP hype, things should be looking very bright.

>>28052835
Kson fell off
Nazuna is a yab machine
And the EN are just Amy Schumer tier unfunny and people don't like that other than Twitch kids and ironic weebs.

>>28052350
One of the holoENs graduated yesterday, but shitposting is obviously shitposting. Vshojo picking up ex-hololive talent isn't even hurting cover. They were already streaming as indies so it's not like new competition appeared.

Yup this is Hololive board

>>28052835
What hype? That lasted barely 12 hours and died.

>>28052835
I heard that JP fans are split on that, though, because a lot of them don't like what they've seen from the rest of the company.

Ironically, there are more EN fans who are hype about VShojoJP than actual JP bros.

>>28052882
Nigger, they haven't even debuted yet.

>>28052932
Exactly Phase Connect overtook them the past few days and VShitshow trannies have nothing to do but cope that no one likes their used goods.

>>28052882
>the EN are just Amy Schumer tier unfunny and people don't like that other than Twitch kids and ironic weebs.
BUT they've ALWAYS acted like that. Yet still maintains a fanbase.

>>28052959
Doesn't change facts that Kson has fallen off and all the cool kids have moved onto Pippa and Erina.

Mouse mogs a ton of hololive members

>>28053035
Just like Amy Schumer does, lol. We're talking about growth here though.

>>28052954
Can you blame them? Who wants a girl who said she wouldn't join another corpo only to join a worse one? Or the real life needy streamer who is better being locked up on twitcaster with her simps? To join the yab club with such creatures as nyanners and veibae?

>>28053035
Yeah, one that isn't VTuber fans like Phase Connect is.

>>28053062
Nice!

>>28052954
That sounds like wishful /vt/ thinking to me. The translated 2chan threads I've seen were very positive and for some reason they were most interested in zentreya of all things.

>>28052422
See the above post ^
>>28053105
One of the biggest VShojo moments of the year literally only managed to match a random Gura WWE stream.

>>28053123
Pippa and Panko mog the AIDS rat LMAO

>>28053212
Phase fags, your meds

>>28053184
How do they feel about Phase Connect bro?

>>28052903
>Vshojo picking up ex-hololive talent isn't even hurting cover.
I think it would hurt Cover. If ex-holo have very serious yab, it implies the quality of Holos sucks and some super nasty talents are still hiding among Hololive.

>>28053278
Nah enough with you, punch down on Phase when they're inclining and making a better statement for VTubers than your diseased whores.

>>28053330
Very good mental gymnastics, I give 9/10.

>>28053330
What it would really imply is that Cover is actually amazing seeing as they could actually control these bitches from doing yabs

>>28053362
They're literally 3views. Cool that they're inclining, but they need to grow to 20 times their current size just to be on par with ironmouse, mogging is just a dream at this point.

For those claiming Phase Connect is going to defeat Vshojo, please listen to numberbros' opinions.

>>28052630
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>>28052026
You haven’t been gone for long enough OP, come back later and then we’ll have an answer for you

But seriously, it’s only been a week. Not-Rushia hasn’t even debuted yet, so I don’t think anyone genuinely has a clue what’ll happen

>>28053516
It don't change the fact that people ditching your diseased skanks for actually cute and funny talents like those at Phase Connect.

>>28053516
So this is where Vshojofags are, in same bed with numberfags. Have some self respect.

>>28053330
The opposite. Yabs would show that Cover did everything right by removing then. On the other hand if Nazuna is successful and has no drama it will make people wonder if firing Rushia was a bad decision.

>>28053570
BUT I WAS PROMISED!!!! WHY THE FUCK IS HOLOLIVE STILL AROUND????

>>28053516
/#/ is literally /cope/.I wouldn't trust them with anything.

>>28053142
>Who wants a girl who said she wouldn't join another corpo only to join a worse one?
It hurts when Kson broke her promise, but I can tolerate that. But when Kson tried to claim Vshojo is not a company and she is still an indie. I feel like I'm being treated as a fool/trash. I gave up on her.

When does Rushia debut though? So I can be around to laugh at that flop. Prediction 25,000.

>>28053770
Damn a mistranslation was all it took. Yikes.

>>28053646
Rushia has not shown problems for years. Until she get caught. Do you think she is only problematic Holo? Such a coincidence that the ONLY PROBLEMATIC Holo get caught?

>>28053872
Hey VShitshowfag, I know it feels like shit to lose fans to Phase Connect but it's OK to cope when a month from now Nazuna is nothing but her established cuck fans and savior EOPs who will flutter off when the novelty is way far gone.

>>28053858
Saturday.

>>28053492
Same thoughts. I appreciate that aspect very much. But that is an old era thing.

Now repeat this after me.
Talent Freedom!
Talent Freedom!
Talent Freedom!

>>28052224
sounds like a Marine stream to me

>>28053999
Thanks

>>28054035
Phase Connect has talent freedom too yet they don't talk about their vagina 24/7 and there's a reason why people like them more than the diseased STD-ridden VShitshow

>>28052026
No, nobody gave a shit in the end

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>>28053858
Debut is on twitch and 25k sounds about right, since the existing vshojo fanbase is mostly EOPs and the debut is at an imposdible hours for yurop, so viewers will be mostly her existing jp fans.
25k wouldn't be a terrible disappointnent though, vshojo is not hololive. Afaik 40k ccv is vshojos current record.

Her actual streams after debut will most likely be on youtube though, so I wonder why they're even doing the twitch debuts

>>28053207
Cope

>>28053570
But things happen super fast on vt. Without checking vt just for few days, bomu then gura locking her in a room, then VshojoJP, then Sana.

>>28054151
Man I don't give a fuck about Hololive I know they're stagnant as fuck but if they make cucks like (You) seethe then they doing something right and now I know why my Phase girls look up to Hololive.

>>28054085
>people like them more
Obviously they don't or Phase Connect would be the more popular group. Not even Finana knows what Phase Connect is rumao.

>>28053630
based honestly getting mogged by Phase connect cuts deep

>>28053958
Holy rent free lmfao
Phase who?

>>28054085
To be fair only Vei talks about shit like that and she has a very different fanbase from the rest of the girls. Even /vsj+/ hates the LSF fags she brought in.

>>28054278
Just you wait, Nijifag

>>28052026
>Vshojo
Literal whores jumping on the bandwagon, a literal man with a text to speech program and the only real talent they have are scraps kicked out of Hololive
Yeah, sure. They'll easily destroy Hololive. Any day now!
Aaaaaaany day now...

> NOOOOO A TWEET OF A WESTERN VTUBER ABOUT SEEEXXX AND I NEVER HAD SEXXXXX!!!! NOW I'M FUCKING MAAAAAAADDD!!! *SNORT* GRRRRRR!!!
> I-I..I'M GONNAAAAAAAAA SEEEEEETHEEEE ON /VT/!!!!!
> THESE HECKIN FUCKING WHORES WHORES WHORES WHORES WHORES WHORES WHORES WHORES!!!!!
> HOLOLIVE IDOLRINAS GOOD WESTERN CORPOS BAAAAADDDD CHUD!!!
> THESE FUCKING ANNOYING WHORES, HOW DARE THEY TALK ABOUT SEX WHEN THEY'RE NOT NIPPANESE... NOW I NEED TO OPEN MY LOLI FOLDER AND FAP TO GURA PORN TO RELAX!!!

>>28053858
But when Rushia opened her new youtube account, subscribers skyrocketed.

>>28054353
>mouse og waaay before hololive also mogs a ton of members lmao

>>28054291
In a month Phase Connect will have way more threads than any damn VWhorejo after they realize Kson fell off and Nazuna is just discount Rushia

>>28054353
>jumping on the bandwagon
How to spot newfags. Mousey was vtubing before Hololive even existed.

>>28054046
Except Marine can actually sing, and is witty, and can draw, and generally do more than just talk about how much dick she wants to suck :)

>>28054353
DAS RITE, STAN PIPPA PIPKIN SHE AINT GOT NO TIME FOR WHORES

>>28054361
Fucking finally!

>>28054085
Are you just one Phase Connect schizo, or vt is actually growing on PC? I've seen PC being brought up more lately.

>>28054217
Why should I cope? I don't see anything in that image to "cope" about. I'm more curious about the fact that you conveniently left out 20 people lmao.

>>28053863
No mistranslation, retard. She had big dreams for some cool fun solo life then realized she needed others to shine and backpedaled the instant her noncompete clause ran out. Kson is a bore and Coco was great. Kson in vshitshow was also a bore and painful to watch, literally her worst stream ever. I do have some small hope she can get back some of the Coco magic once she sets up shop, assuming she really will be running her own little branch.

>>28053330
That's their fault for letting them go on the first place lmao

>>28054483
The latter. People are finally realizing what effective VTubing in the West looks like and all of Phase is inclining as their growth is now higher NijiEN's Ethyria. The debuts were a massive success too. Seriously, people be sleeping on them.

>>28054085
Is this a falseflagging attempt to make phase connect look bad?
They will probably try to leech from vshojo after niji ignores them so I wonder if thesecposts are people trying to build animosity before that happens.

>>28054403
I was talking more about Melody and Vei. Melody is a shit streamer and relies on trying to be lolsorandum and having weird as fuck collabs with some literal whos at times when she isn't masturbating on chaturbate. Vei is just gross and is the poster girl for the attention whore types who jumped on the vtuber bandwagon.

>>28054278
Fi-who?

>>28054603
Hey, we're the ones with the talent freedom and the yabless talents :^)

>>28054085
ok, keep watching your pick me

>>28054353
>jumping on the bandwagon
Mouse
Also Zen was a VRchat avatar streamer which is somewhat similar to vtubing.

>>28054670
>having this image saved
Dilate

>>28054490
Mouse mogs all of holo x, id, council, irys, watame matsuri, kanata, towa, shion, lamy, mio, polka, sora, nene, flare, tamaki, roboco, luna.
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-subscribed-v-tuber-channels-in-worldwide-total

>>28054668
Pippa is less presentable to sponsors than all vshojos combined, including melody.

This Phasechad is breaking the VShitshowtrannies rumao. Respect.

>>28054403
Before or after handing off her spawn to lay in bed all day?

I’m so glad the real, authentic, JP vtubers will absolutely always bury EOP camwhore talentless grifter vshitshow and their tranny pandering borefests. Idol culture is eternal because it’s so objectively superior. That’s why Hololive will always be on top.
Kson needed less talent freedom, as it turned out lol.

>>28054807
Maybe phase can hit 170k active subs! Likely not since ya know theyre shit

>>28054787
She got her own banner on 4chan that's something Nyanners dreams of lmao

>>28054773
1. Mouse has been streaming since before Hololive was a thing.
2. THE LITERAL TOP 11 IS ALL HOLOLIVE HAHAHAHA

VShojo's BIGGEST streamer can't even crack top 10. And I'm supposed to cope? Again, why?

>>28054787
And that’s a good thing.

>>28054670
This is all a huge compliment.

>>28054403
I prefer the best player over the first player.

>>28054853
Cope
Mouse mogs so many holos lmfao>>28054773

>>28054807
He is taking them for a proper ride. I aprob.

>>28054874
Seethe

>>28054894
Holy cope lmfao imagine being so shit a sick girl beats half your fucking members rofl

>>28054894
>NOOOO SHUTUP SHE MOGS A TON OF HOLOS
not enough of them to make an impact apparently
keep seething vshocucks

>>28054930
Literally has nothing to do with that post though? You can't jump on the bandwagon if you were doing it first. Nice try at deflecting though.

>>28054483
They aren't really growing that massively. You'd think they were the second coming of NijiEN in terms of growth or concurrent view counts the way the fans talk about them here, but the new talents are still about 5.5k-8.5k subs with 362 people watching one talent play Witcher 3.
Which is still great numbers for a small corpo streamer but you have to really keep in mind that fans are overhyping them. Though it might have less to do with fans and more shills astroturfing here.

>>28054894
Man when Pippa gets more viewers than one of the lower tier VWhores some day I can't wait for their cope. The fact that their fans are so against Phase Connect succeeding shows that they no better than Holo or Niji tribalists.

Lmfao holo cant even hit 170k active subs lmfao dogshit company mogged by a sick girl lmfao, she mogs some of the "biggest" holo members as well holy cope holoniggers in shambles

>>28054932
Bro she's literally rank 56 in the list that VCuck posted. And the top 50 is 90% Hololive.

Congrats, man. Mouse mogs the least relevant Hololive streamers. You've beaten us, we'll never recover.

>>28055068
cope

>>28052026
The first domino has fallen.

>>28054894
Hey Mouse is a real OG and mostly does nothing wrong. Cut her some slack. She’s not the enemy here and she’s by far the most tolerable ENwhore. She puts in the hours and does her best. She will never have Holo tier talent at anything or be as fun and based as Pippa but Mouse does just fine and isn’t the bad guy and isn’t some bandwagon grifter.

reminder that phasefags are /#/fags, so like any numberfagg they are extremely fragile people and got cocky after their pickme getting more viewers than usual after a raid

>>28054807
Vwhorejo cucks HATE Phase Connect because they show how retarded the marketing schtick about being able to leave and take your model with you is:

>Cyberlive gives the girls ownership of their models.
>Phase Connect poaches talents from Cyberlive and they take the models with them.
>Cyberlive is now dead.
There goes that fucking idea. What's next? A database of talent names so we can look up their acting credits and see all their past lives?

Sorry, I'm too busy watching stuff I can't keep on with the drama, Hey look, another Holo Cure gameplay to watch! g2g sorry

>>28054426
holobrony cope
marine and veibae are basically the same

>>28054426
If twitch whores are talented, or able to make money with their talents, they wouldn't resort to titty streaming. Except those who enjoy being a whore

>>28054921
>And that’s a good thing.
If you want her to stay "based" and not sell out then I guess, but sponsors are good money. Also no sponsor company will care that Nyanners told lolicons to fuck off once, so these "yabs" are ultimately meaningless and ard really only yabs on /vt/.

>>28054737
cope scrote, it's you that dilates

>>28054932
Nope, not really. She’s not up to snuff and could never get into a real JP agency.

>>28055068
Nigga no one mention Hololive here, you just up in arms over prospects of Pippa, Panko, Erina, or other Phase girls doing well since Phase Connect is growing fast and overtaking NijiEN. Soon it will be you niggers when people be tired of your dick and vagina jokes.

>>28055133
Mind if I join you king? Lets support our Oshi's together

>>28052026
Maybe Vshojo should focus on winning on their own platform first
They're losing their ground to fucking Isegye

>>28055119
Phase Connect poaching vshojos when?

>>28054988
>beats
Not a thing.

>>28055198
When they get someone worth poaching.

>>28055093
VShitseethe

>>28055198
Mouse will join Phase and she'll finally start getting somewhere

>>28055132
1/10 low effort bait

>>28055194
Kek, this.

>>28055171
>Phase Connect is growing fast and overtaking NijiEN.
lol
lmao even

>>28055171
But phase connect is perfect for vshojo fans. They even hired a girl with a boyfriend just like Nyanners.

>>28055132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S68zrKYd1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuvKHN7FUx8

The gap in talent between Veibae and Marine is the size of the Mariana Trench. Cope.

>>28055194
Kim-sama I kneel

>>28054773
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>>28055068
People only give money and watch Mouse because she has a serious illness. Giving her a sub is equivalent to a Make a Wish

>>28055361
Marine isn't THAT bad, anon

>>28055361
Vei doesn't even fucking like Vtubing or her audience
Imagine thinking she was worth even a second of your time

>>28055342
And the best part is she didn't lie to her fans about it whereas Nyanners did just that. Funny how much a difference that makes, eh, VShitter?

>>28055361
Yeah Vei is actually good at video games unlike Marine.

>>28054603
Nah, they're already leeching from Hololive. One of the new girls played HoloCure on her first game stream. Smart move on her part.

>>28054560
>Phase is inclining as their growth is now higher NijiEN's Ethyria.
>>28055028
>They aren't really growing that massively.

>>28054560
>Seriously, people be sleeping on them.
>>28055028
>keep in mind that fans are overhyping them

>>28055361
Has Marine ever even said "dick" (in any language), like ever?

>>28055414
Anon, Veiniggers seethe at Shylily's existence. That's how pathetic they are, bringing down someone like Marine to her level is indicative of their nasty trashy existence.

>>28055426
>didn't lie to her fans about it whereas Nyanners did just that
You living in Bizarro world or some shit? That's the exact opposite of what actually happened.

>>28055426
Nyanners is open about having a bf, what do you mean?

>>28055470
Outside the one nigga who comes into every thread to "trigger" the Hololive fans who watch VShojo? There more unique people in /pcg/ than /vsj+/ too.

>>28055522
And how's that woring out for her?

>>28055155
She isn’t “based”, she’s based. No sponsor money will ever touch vshitshow either way, incidentally. Even literal camwhore sites reject them. Poor dumb Melody is only good at one thing and she’s not even allowed to do it because she made 3dpd seethe so hard they bullied her off the camwhore sites. They’re camwhores who lost their sponsorship potential to pig disgusting thot bullies. It sucks that there will never even be a Melody Fleshlight, but it is what it is.

>>28055485
Anon Vei and Lily are friendly now and have been for a while. You obviously get all your information from shitposting threads and don't watch any of these streamers. You have no idea what's actually happening.

>>28055559
Fine?

>>28054483
Every single Phase Connect post outside of their general is made by Pippa.

>>28055342
Absolutely nobody cares. Every vtuber, in Japan and the West, fucks on the daily and all nonretards have known this since day one. This isn’t 1990’s 3DPD idol stereotypes like you imagine. Even for those who happen to be “idols”.

>>28055559
Fine?
She lost some goslings, but her most recent stream had 11k ccv, pretty good for her even before she was with Aethel.

>>28054604
Didn't Vei got a VTuber model before HoloEN debuted?

>>28052903
>One of the holoENs graduated yesterday
no they didn't. They announced that they are graduating at the end of this month. God you fucks are legit retarded

>>28055742
>nobody cares
Tell that to all the threads here when Nyan announced she had a bf.

>>28055691
I was told you Vshojofags were close to Numberfags. Maybe go have a chat.

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>>28054151
V-sluto schizo simps are already raging and spazzing so much and the dramastorm that K-son + Rushia are aching to summon in there hasn't even begun, it is going to be absolutely glorious. Vshojo is already PR poison with their chuubas openly attacking their own fans, masculinity and weeb culture as a whole. Now, thanks to Coco the jap Idolfans are also getting in on the action, and Vshojo's current bad PR is only going to get worse and absolutely ran through the mud when they see the oshi's they once respected start talking to gems like Vei about getting their asses pulled inside out by their boyfriend. The drama is going to ripple through /vt/ for ages to come, I'm happy and can't wait to feast on the misery of both EN and JP fans bitter tears. Itadakimasu.

>>28055667
If you watched them, which you didn’t but we did, you’d know Lily shits on her nonstop for being an arrogant mean girls cunt. And she’s right.

>>28055829
Nobody cared. She wanted to act like it was some big brave rebellious thing but that shit has been the mainstream, standard thing for a decade or three. As always, the “edgy rebellious” shit is just pandering to the mainstream and taking 0 risks.

>>28054151
> V-sluto schizo simps are already raging and spazzing so much and the dramastorm that K-son + Rushia are aching to summon in there hasn't even begun, it is going to be absolutely glorious. Vshojo is already PR poison with their chuubas openly attacking their own fans, masculinity and weeb culture as a whole. Now, thanks to Coco the jap Idolfans are also getting in on the action, and >Vshojo's current bad PR is only going to get worse and absolutely ran through the mud when they see the oshi's they once respected start talking to gems like Vei about getting their asses pulled inside out by their boyfriend. The drama is going to ripple through /vt/ for ages to come, I'm happy and can't wait to feast on the misery of both EN and JP fans bitter tears. Itadakimasu.

>>28055080
Ruining other's narrative is just mean

>>28055836
Just let them cope. Phase Connect got the appeal to Western fans right and VShitshowsisters are now on heavy copium that their success of VSN will only be 2 weeks to a month max when people are suddenly tired of used goods Kson and Nazuna won't be as great as they hyped her up to be.

>>28054604
>I was talking more about Melody and Vei
Both of those had their vtuber debuts in early 2020 before holoEN too if I remember correctly. Where is the bandwagoning?

>>28055852
Both my favorites have talked repeatedly about how parasocial shit is bad news and isn’t real. I finally get to be the CHAD in one of these memes.

>>28054670
>literal deviantart memes
This is just getting sad.

>>28056012
Cuck

>>28056041
We call them /vt/sisters for a reason.

>>28055566
>No sponsor money will ever touch vshitshow either way, incidentally.
You sure? Sponsor income is the biggest income.

>Even literal camwhore sites reject them.
Why though?

>>28055848
Wait so Lily is a bitch too now? I liked that she handled it like a mature person and ignored it when Vei was a bitch in the beginning.
Vei only rarely talks about her and they follow each other now. Lily has also collabed with vshojos.

>>28055119
Didn't Cyberlive die on their own?

what's up with the phase connect shilling since yesterday?
is it a huge falseflag to rile people against them, a genuine shilling campaign or a discord raid?

>>28055980
I bet you said this when vshojo started too yet here we are. Only 2 more weeks though r-right?

>>28056235
Kson fell off lmao

Veibae appeal is ironic GFE.

>>28055831
/#/ is clueless about Twitch, unironically. Nyan's sub numbers were down because of a hiatus and have already recoveted. I guess it was due to her having a bf, but because it made her not stream, not because of viewers feeling betrayed.

>>28055836
Imagine. There's actually people getting off to their oshi gushing about a bf onstream or talking about taking cock every second.
Not that it's a bad fetish to have, just amusing when they try to paint themselves as anything masculine.

>>28056335
Explains how VShojo is. Ironic VTuber fans. Ironic weebs are their core audience after all. Big reason why other EN corps have more futures.

>>28055566
I remember them getting sponsored by Elden Ring and Monster Hunter Rise.

>>28054217
PPTRIO LOVE

>>28052026
amazing bait anon... Look all this schizo fighting for nothing KEK

>>28055742
>Absolutely nobody cares.
Doesn't explain the fact that 99% chuuba didn't say they have a bf.

>>28056356
And yet they're losing to Isegye, Koreans. Maybe VShojo needs to focus on getting into the Korean market if they truly want to beat Hololive.

>>28055566
>No sponsor money will ever touch vshitshow either way
Go to vshojos website and take a look at some of the sponsor company names scrolling by at the bottom.

>>28055402
well marine is/was one of the JP Aces

>>28055440
If I want good gamers, I would watch male pros

>>28056365
>talking about taking cock
This doesn't actually happen.
The boyfriend gushing is real though and it's annoying as fuck and makes them unwatchable.

>>28056356
That's a lot of cope but you are getting there.

>>28056403
Dunno taking yourself overtly seriously is more prone to backfire.

>>28056463
Korea is a minefield.

>>28056680
Don't worry, Phase Connect doesn't do it either, yet they're gaining more fans than VShitshow is right now.

>>28055361
Not sure why some faggots like to embarrass themselves by comparing their oshi to Marine, basically the fucking Da Vinci of vtubing, of all people.

>>28056658
she stopped streaming for one month because she was moving. It's very normal for people to not sub again if you don't stream for too long.
Here goes look for yourself.
https://twitchtracker.com/nyanners/subscribers

>>28055476
iirc Marine did say it before (not sure)? With a very playful tone and non-stop giggles. One thing for sure, horny Marine is classy.

i didn't think people cared this much about which vtuber goes to which organization

why exactly does it matter so much

>>28057044
I don't give a fuck but VShitters acting like it's Manifest Destiny on Hololive when that's just flat out tampering.

>>28057044
I know right? People used to say "the talent matters, not the company" but now it just feels like trolls trying to force consolewar type shit here.

>>28056829
Okay Pippa.

>>28057044
There is more competition now so people are turning into console warriors. Rejecting tribalism is more easy when there is just one leader.

>>28055852
This shit was debunked long ago

>watch vtuber for entertainment
Vtubers are sub-tier to professional comedian/singer/gamer. People watch vtuber mainly for GFE, unless the person is a dumb teenager or into sub-tier stuff
(also, in fan meeting of Holostars, the fans were all females)

Lmfao mouse is the 23rd most subbed vtuber in the world above so many hlolos rofl

>>28056356
They aren't clueless, it's that Vshojo is kinda irrelevant on that topic besides some standout news like Ironmouse sub marathon. /#/ is also aware about the CCV cull on YT, which is the main reason why Twitch numbers are looked down upon.

>>28057044
You know about /v/ and its console wars, right? Some people feel a need to make tribalism their entire identity.

Based Phase Connect bro shitting on Vwhorejo

>>28056235
>what's up with the phase connect shilling since yesterday?
I've noticed this too. I'm scratching my head.

Based Vshojo bro shitting on Cuck Connect

This whole board exists because of tribalism. Holoboard, retards.

>>28054543
Damn you'd think a Kson fan would know that she's had 5 VShojo collabs now not just 1

>>28057575
>he believes the holoboard meme
Should've told them to name the board /holo/ then.

>>28057381
VTubers are highly parasocial but that also applies to regular streamers. Chuubas are just more honest about it. Also there are types of parasocial attachments, which is especially obvious with how many try to create the idea of a large friend group.

>>28052882
>Nazuna is a yab machine
thats great for exposure, a new member that can yab herself to national news

>>28057381
There was talent back in the early days of vtubing but EOP fans are all weeb trash who want GFE and jerk to 'muh real anime girls'. Vtubers now being trash just represents the kind of shit taste your average vtuber fan has.
It's like why anime is full of isekai shit, low effort garbage that braindead fans gobble up like shit.

>another company wars
Can't we all live in peace and enjoy our chuubas?

>>28056365
>Imagine. There's actually people getting off to their oshi gushing about a bf onstream or talking about taking cock every second.
Sounds like ordinary Vshojo or NijiEN fan to me.

>just amusing when they try to paint themselves as anything masculine.
Masculine has broad definition and is very subjective. A man being rude to a woman can be seen as masculine.

>>28056817
Make Ina great again.

>>28057381
Surely Ninja is the best gamer in the world and is not like children are looking at him as a sort of big brother replacement.

The reason VShojo won't beat Hololive anytime soon is because their audience is very divided among each of the vtubers. They pretty much just work for themselves, and the success of one is not shared with the whole. They don't really feel like one united fanbase, more like a stitched together network who sometimes share similar interests, like Austria-Hungary. Nijisanji is similar, but at least they have enough talents that some of them get along well with each other and form their own little communities of shared fans.

Vshojo needs to go down 1 of 2 routes:
1) Take the Hololive route, restrict certain content so they target the same audience and also do more content outside of streaming or do planned events like the Summer Festival to unite the entire fanbase under one banner
- or -
2) Take the Nijisanji route and just have hundreds of vtubers so that eventually some will form friendships and work together to make content for their own target audiences.

Right now, if VShojo just keeps streaming like they do, each of their fanbases are just gonna gradually evaporate like every other indie vtuber or generic streamer.

>>28054426
Hot damn anon, have some mercy.

>>28058257
Never seen a Kobo post that wasn't retarded and this one's no different

>>28058257
They used to be more unified.

>>28057886
>fans are all weeb trash
And this is why no one like VShojo and might just find solace at Phase Connect and other places instead!

>>28057657
Despite vt is for all vtubers, it is indeed a "hololive board". Hololive things get pinned, Hololive topics cause ruckus for days. Mori threads get deleted instantly, while /b/omu threads just stay there.

The most insane example was, in the original /b/omu thread, someone posted a Mori dox, the post was deleted instantly but the nudes thread stayed for a while. Nothing explains this if wasn't for Hololive board.

Do not forget that literal gooks under the company name of Isegye are literally mogging every single one of the Vwhorjo girls on their own platform, Ironlung included, with just other gooks as their audience.

>>28057886
This nigga seriously wants to put VShojo on par with the likes of Kizuna AI AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA get the fuck out

>>28056924
She came here yesterday to shill herself watching her own old 4chan spoofs from before she turned into a holier than thou corpo whore. It was shit btw, nothing but fake laughter and gaslighting with almost zero real commentary. Pink cat is an absolutely shameless grifter that only cares about making money in the laziest way possible. You're not welcome here Nyan, fuck off and never come back.

>>28058434
seethe

>>28058406
They still haven't addressed that elephant in the room kek

>>28058425
Does Kizuna AI has Talent Freedom though?
Pff
I forgot that she was replaced several times before. You will all kneel to Talent Freedom.

>>28053858
>laugh at that flop.
You are pretending people have standards.
She will not flop, losers will kiss the floor she walks on and consume all garbage she puts on.

>>28058406
And CookieSwirlC mogs hololive on it's own platform, Gura included.

>>28058406
Well you are talking about completely different and separate audiences. You. Should be comparing VShojo numbers with those of HoloEN and NijiEN.

heh nothing personnel vwhorejo

>>28058503
What is there to address? If there's a group of Korean vtubers mogging VShojo then you may not know this but that means they mog the vast majority of Hololive too.

>>28058519
Vshojo should debut a Freedom Tuber. Some tranny wearing stars and stripes and carrying guns and a bible.

>>28058557
CookieSwirlC mogs Ironmouse

>>28057907
Even if there is no tribalwars between Nijiniggas and Holobronies, the talents will still cause drama related to other companies.

I just want yab/drama free corpos. No twitch whores with anime avatar please.

>>28058434
I hate Nyanners so goddamn much

>>28057907
>/vt/
>peace

>>28058557
To be fair, if you sum the views of all Hololive talents combined they might pass Cookie's monthly views.

>>28058531
Leddit clipwatchers and paid shills don't actually watch streams, don't worry

>>28057841
the funny thing is even if Nazuna yabbed within the next year she will be described in the news as an ex-hololive talent

>>28058649
Watch Phase Connect. They are 100% talent freedom without the yabs and grift.

>>28058640
That's a very Asian post.

>>28058649
If they are not complaining about other companies the Holocucks start shitting each other.

>>28058812
Shut up and watch Phase Connect, Nijibro. They're Nijisanji minus the wokeness.

>>28058842
Not interested then

>>28058257
>if VShojo just keeps streaming like they do, each of their fanbases are just gonna gradually evaporate like every other indie vtuber or generic streamer.

Keep streaming.... fans evaporate.

>>28058562
With YouTube culling and making everything possible to lower the CCVs on their platforms while on the other Twitch passively allows botting, alt tabs viewing+ embedded streams, the three things being absolutely impossible on YouTube? Suuuuure. Maybe when the HoloEN girls start streaming actively there you would be able to compare them. Now is not really the best time to do so, just try to beat the gooks and maybe you will achieve something.

>>28058842
I only watch chuubas that stream directly from their kitchens. Otherwise they deserve to be stoned and/or beheaded.

>>28058346
How can they be unified if Mouse is different than the rest

>>28058742
It's actually very very "anywhere else but from America" post.

>>28058952
Trust me dude, Phase Connect has everything based there is in small corps. Complete talent freedom but they don't appeal to Twitch kids and ironic weebs like VWhorejo does.

>>28058557
But the thing is, CookieSwirlC gave in to vtubing. That alone is a big L in my eyes. If you are better, you never have to bend.

>>28058910
When Desuwa-chan debuted some of the numberfags were convinced it was pushed by bots. The problem with that is that if you assume a corpo is botting, then all corpos are doin it.

>>28058903
This is the kinda of people that will be gladly watch a "supa stream" and talk shit about someone who streams almost everyday KeK

>>28058952
>I only watch chuubas that stream directly from their kitchens.
??????
Cooking chuubas?

>>28059043
Everyone that isn't Kizuna "gave in" to vtubing

>>28058953
Mousey is the glue that holds them all together actually.

>>28059217
Big youtubers: Pardun?

>>28052449
Is this a true sign of incline? PC having their own personal schizo shill in every thread?

>>28058971
I think people in Latam and Europe have different stereotypes about murricans.

>>28059333
The sudden rise of PC feels very forceful, almost as if the talents are shilling here.

>>28059108
Nah retard, the worming graphs clearly show at which point the streamers/ the company were actually botting. This never happened at Hololive, whereas just the past 4 days this has happened nearly 10 times at Nijisanji, with Koshien training stream+ the homos from NijiCN when playing GOI.
You tards from twitch would not understand that anyway so I'm just wasting my time.

>>28059186
>Cooking chuubas?
Well is the only way to be sure.

>>28059411
Well you at least opened their eyes a little

>>28059411
>holoseethe and holocope

>>28059532
How does this explain the graph though?

>>28059568
You wouldnt spend hours misreading graphs if you weren't endlessly seething.

>>28059667
Still not explaining/refuting a thing about >>28059411

>>28059387
It's working either way because the Western VTuber sphere is really anyone's for taking if they just do their jobs the right way. And Phase is doing just that

>>28059411
You can see the same behavior in HoloJP.

>>28059387
Maybe them showing up at Anime Expo got them the exposure they needed

>>28059719
Cope and seethe.

>>28059992
It paid off when their turnout was much larger than expected and rivaled that of VShitshow.

>>28060031
It paid off when I bought a Pippa body pillow cover

>>28060103
Pippa doesn't seem that popular to me, it almost feels like some anons are trying to trick me

>>28060228
It's Pippa she bought a pillow for herself.

>>28060103
At least iron it, you sloppy fuck. Keeping your oshi all wrinkly.

>>28060031
Didn't Pippa post about how much smaller and worse their booth was?

>>28059960
Go on, find me several pics like picrel at Hololive JP that isn't Apex-related or Holocure/Vampire Survivor-related.
>>28059667
>Misreading graphs
>Somehow Niji's graphs, which are closer to graphs appearing on Bitcoin scam streams filled with bots than the typical graph one would find on any other graph, no matter the Vtuber, be it a 2 views or a 5views, are misread
Hmmmmmm, maybe we might be the problem after all, maybe Nijisisters were right all along...

>>28060103
BASED

>>28060228
Her market is untapped anon, she's yet to go big and when she does that's when you VWhorejosisters will begin shaking in their boots.

>>28060298
I took this photo right after I got it out of its bag in my hotel room, I ironed it when I got home

>>28060489
You are forgiven.

>>28060323
Did the fans get to se Pippa in real person?

>>28060323
The PC booth was about the same footprint as the Vshojo one, but for whatever fucking reason VShojo and Hololive were in the main Exhibit hall with all the anime booths, and PC was the only vtuber booth in the Entertainment hall which was basically dead because it was just card games

>>28059108
Salmonella didn't necessarily have a bot problem, the graphs were absolutely fine during her first month (besides the karaoke one and one or two others). The main problem with her was that, for some odd reason, 100~k viewers, or tourists, came to watch her progressively during her 1hour streams, all the while no audience among the other Vtubers were bleeding viewers, no matter where they came from(Nijisanji, Hololive etc..).
I'm not really gonna complain about her specifically though, because when Pekora came back, Salome reclined heavily and at the same time, Pekora gained a massive amount of viewers (her last stream below 20k was mid may, and Mid March If you count a 19900~ stream at 20k due to YouTube fuck ups here and there), now Pekora boasts about having a 35k floor with a much higher ceiling than she ever had before. Just yesterday she managed to reach nearly 47k viewers on a solo MHR stream, whereas her last peak on that game was at around 38k.

>>28060352(me)
Forgot the picrel...
And this kind of graphs is numbered in the 100s easily at Nijisanji. That's why we called them Chinese mountains, since their IPO had been bought by quite a few zhangs, and the mountain-graphs kept appearing more and more often afterwards.

>>28060352
Nice to see the precope included in the post.

Pippa if you want to grow you need to innovate in some way, like doing meet and greets with benefits.

>>28061338
Yeah as expected, waste of my fucking time. Don't talk about what you don't know VShitshow cuck.

>>28061436
You literally admitted to some Holo streams having similar weird graphs. Check mate sister.

>>28061436
I think the Vtroon is referring to the Apex and VS streams you mentioned. That's why you should never engage with newfags.

>>28054361
>the absolute state of holofag
KEK

skizo

>>28052534
Did you see her on stage? Gross belly fat hanging out everywhere.

>>28063018
I don't care about her physical form, I care about what she upholds in her heart.

I don't care if she's ugly like shit, as long as she has the spirit or values that I admired. That's exaclty what disappointed me.

>>28052350

>>28063217
>as long as she has the spirit or values that I admired
being a whore?

>>28063348
A titty streamer without much talent is fine, still honest work at the end of the day. But she failed to keep a promise, and instead of apologizing she made a blatant excuse for it.

>>28052224
>Veibae
who?

>>28057415
lmao, numberfag thread is holocope center, if it's not holo with the biggest number it's bot, holo gets cull, etc, bunch of restarted bronies

>>28055852
There is no non-parasocial way to watch a vtuber. "Entertainment" is a meme.

>>28055028
its literally one fucking guy trying to fish (you)s
that faggot isnt a fan, hes just trying to piss fans of every brand off

>>28055852
i only watch vtubers for entertainment but i hate vshojo and hololive

Any day now.

>>28054046
Err, actually, Marine only rapes other girls thank you

>>28070400
They're literally growing at a faster rate than Ethyria. I think the seething one is (You).