/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

first

it fucking hurts bros

When will we stream our suicides, bros?

Man, Sanallites don't deserve this. We are one of the most wholesome fanbases of EN

I hope there's an Anya collab in there, playing something related to bananas in some way

>>28017863
>"Time to go home..."
Hell.

Finally they removed the nigger

goodbye astro girl
may you live long and prosper

People mentioned videos being privated. Which ones?

Hopes & Copes
>Sana reaches 400,000 subs before graduation
>Sana reaches 500,000 subs on graduation day
>soulful 21st collab ending with a teary VR Chat group hug
>debut a Council group song like Gen 4 did
>respectable turnout for her Graduation stream
>graduation stream has similar format to Coco's. Goodbyes with everyone, followed by a large chunk at the end for Council + Irys with a group performance and a final Astrogirl performance
>Council always leave an empty seat for her going forward
>Irys makes extensive use of the mascots Sana drew for her
>her roommate takes up a casual once a week stream schedule that works better for her
>Cover bring Sana back to be a mama down the line, resulting in the very rare cameo call in on anniversaries and birthdays

>>28018278
I think her dog break announcement stream is down.

>>28017863

also soon to be one of the shortest-lived apparently :)

>>28018421
She should already be at 400k but sub culls

it's very appropriate that the French word for "bread" is "pain"

>>28018421
>>Cover bring Sana back to be a mama down the line, resulting in the very rare cameo call in on anniversaries and birthdays
Considering the absolute drama free nature of Sana's graduation, I wouldn't necessarily rule this out as a possibility

>>28018462
Why though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFTB0H6DnBg
im gonna miss her

what a lad

>>28018714
Not likely. Never seen Cover collabed with someone that parted ways with them.

>>28018854
fucking chad.

>>28018278
praise the yata QSgzpshmBBQ
A little chat...! Bzn-Ayu5CYQ
【I Am Bread】 Empty head. Only bread. #holoCouncil PLps9TV32H4
and missing holoscopes

>>28018861
Coco had the great China Chimp out and Rushia was well Rushia, not saying it will happen but compared to the last 2 cuts there's a more reasonable case to be made it could happen

After much consideration I've finally decided how to do it: helium exit bag, inside my car on a deserted area, with her Pokemon legends stream on the background
I know a gun has a higher success probability but I can't buy weapons for my self harm antecedents, and I don't want to use a train/building method because I don't want to traumatize anyone else
Goodbye sana and goodbye sanallite bros, you were like family to me

>>28019006
Do a flip.

>>28018962
Or you could see it this way, Cover doesn't stop working with somone UNLESS their relationship turned sour.

>>28018854
I love that guy's dolls. I might take him up on his offer
https://twitter.com/uranus_4921/status/1546662471779627008

>>28019006
Don't do that anon.

>>28019249
Hololive is changing lives.

I'm sorry, and thank you for creating the threads while I was away.
I can't believe the last thread I'll ever be making would have discussions about her graduation. I don't really feel like making any more /nasa/ threads but I will support Sana until the very end.
It's been a good run, I have many more things to say but I can barely compose myself... I watched the announcement while driving to work and I barely functioned at the office.

>>28019006
How can a non-streamer have so many schizos?

>>28019006
come on anon, sana wouldn't want that for you

>>28018854
>>28019249
man..

What is her other channel where she streams genshit? I know it starts with "nana" but I forgot the rest.

>>28019680
banaNamie

>>28019006
Reminds me of that dude who offed himself after coco graduated

My ceiling leaked yesterday evening.

>>28019742
>banaNamie
Arigathankyou

>>28019768
You should get that fixed or mold will develop.

>>28019680
well, it autocorrects in search engines to a branded horse tranquilizer for horses with back pain, kek. hopefully that's a good enough clue

>>28019006
Anon, unironically seek help from your friends and family and call a suicide hotline or something if you aren't larpibg.

>>28019006
She will join vshojo in a year bro don't do it

I need to ask: looking back, what happened?
She had a lot of zeal for streaming with all the jokes and editing she was doing for her videos. She also had long membership stream(s). She clearly enjoyed streaming in the beginning.
But she kinda just stopped communicating after the break. It was a stark difference. Were all the setbacks too much and broke her spirit?
I kinda suspect that there was more to it than just dog and back hurting, considering how she still did occasional long streams after the break, and how reluctant she was to announce about back hurting.

>>28019753
You just reminded me of the manotomo on /hlg/ that an hero'd during the graduation announcement
Fuck, I probably would've been a manotomo too if Aloe just stayed for a bit longer
I still don't know how to cope with Sana's graduation, she ticks all my boxes for the perfect holo, and since she debuted I've been watching less of the other girls

>>28019006
She hasn't died, so don't be an idiot.

>>28019834
holy shit it does. I thought you were trying to make some fucked up joke.

>>28019753
For real? He should stay alive to witness the VshojoJP.

>>28019860
A rrat I've heard is that Sana was given an ultimatum of sorts from Cover to stream more but this would cut into her other art work. I'm not sure how plausible of a theory this really is but it's something that could make sense.
I don't really like speculating on it anyways

>>28019860
The most reasonable explanation I've heard is that due to her back injury plus non-hololive related contract work, she just did not have the time to fulfill her contractual obligations to Cover, which is why she politely chose to graduate, any other explanation involves way too many rrats for it to make sense

>>28019742
Holy shit, first stream is a Genshin stream where she already has most of the map explored in just a month.

So that's what she was doing instead of streaming.

>>28019680
Considering it's the same sense of humor, I'm almost certain banana are involved...

Don't ask mie about what comes after that, I wouldn't know.

>>28020009
My guess is, when Sana is about to renew her contract, Cover added a few new clauses which requires her to stream more.

>>28020009
>>28020032
I'm not necessarily asking about the graduation, but why it seems she completely deflated as time went on. I can understand the lower output, but it seems like the zeal wasn't there anymore either.

>>28019006
Just follow her roommate anon. She's one whose personality is basically the same between roommate and character.

you think her rocky start just created a negative feedback loop that made her dislike streaming?

>>28020148
You ever had to work two jobs? With back issues on top maybe it was just too much to handle.

>>28020009
It's pretty much confirmed that it's a combination of failing to balance her streamer obligations with the artist career.

Part of it is that she's addicted to Gatcha even worse than Ina.

>>28020148
As >>28020223 said, trying to juggle 2 jobs on top of what is a very bad place to take an injury it was most likely a case of having to choose a path

>>28019860
I feel like it's a combination of everything.
Her ideas getting shot down early days (Kusoge weekly, More RL space stuff)
The dog and her back.
Pokemon permissions expired.
And her actual art job.
Feels like it just got too heavy and hit breaking point for her, which is sad I actually love her streaming vibes

>>28020240
Doesn't sana also have pretty bad back problems?

>>28017552
The saddest part about it is that even with a low output she had the type of energy that brought out the best (or at least most interesting) parts of others.

do you think cover already wasted the money making her a 3D model ?

Being a Sana fan was suffering all along

>>28017908
There is, check Anya's schedule

what is your favourite memory of sana?

>>28018933
>【I Am Bread】 Empty head. Only bread. #holoCouncil PLps9TV32H4
Sana had to reupload the VOD because she cut out several minutes of scuff at the start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yslb2ru1ME
>praise the yata QSgzpshmBBQ
What was this about again?

>>28020781
Her debut still is one of her best moments for me
It looked like she was really excited to start her new job

>>28020810
https://archive.ragtag.moe/watch?v=QSgzpshmBBQ

I'm really sad for you guys

>>28019183
Didn't turn sour with Coco and I don't think it turned sour here - at least not to the extent that Sana is forced out of the company. Unlike with Rushia, there are no allegations in the official statement so they seem interested in still making it look like a consensual seperation.
So, if the issue here was streaming frequency, not quality or content, that still leaves her as an able and reputable artist who made artwork for Hololive. I don't think she is likely to be a corporate mama because corpos usually rely on the same model artists and riggers for consistency. But it's not unthinkable that she'll draw some more promo artwork or tapestry, especially if someone from Council "commissions" her which is fully in their power, it's just a question of if she draws it as a gift for a friend or as an order from a corporation.
Lastly, we know Ina is vehemently against being anyone's modeler because she doesn't want to shoulder that responsibility to another person. I don't know if this means that artist holos talk about this with management, but at the very least it indicates that this isn't an absurd idea to one of them.

>>28018576
>not sanawich
Man, you guys didn’t deserve this. I hope you will remember and cherish your oshi forever, sanallites. I always respected you and her for being cute and devoted in spite of annoying numberfags, rrats, people complaining about hours, ESLs complaining about accents etc.
I hope we get some final Space-Time kino, I’ll never forget that Interstellar collab for getting Kronii out of her shell.
That last “Sananara~“ is going to sting so badly…I had an astronomer for a father who died a while back so this isn’t the first time I’ve had space-related loss. Look after yourselves, do it for her…
also, I hope she makes jokes about “black holes” and “telescopes” and whatever other astronomical innuendos she can get away with before she goes
t. Kronie

>>28020781
Interstellar with Kronii was probably the only watchalong I've enjoyed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOGQv0hJNJ8
FUCK this just got announced
sana will never stream this

>>28020781
I have multiple, but all of them are kind of the same: me getting to participate actively in Sana's streams
Been watching vtubers for a very long time, but it was my first time interacting so much with one of them.
>got to visit her island in Animal Crossing and donated fish bait and cookies
>getting multiple of my messages read on stream
>having the opportunity to participate in her creative streams and projects hosted by the sanallites (kimono guesses, tanabata, stratosphere b-day project)
The long streams like the members only work stream, the pokemon streams, and the kirby endurance stream also hold a special place in my heart. Those were definitely super comfy streams and I watched them while I was working, or playing the same game she's playing
I have many more fond memories of her and her streams, but these came up first when I was thinking of what to reply

>>28020559
If they have it, I would let her have it for the graduation, even if it's just an animation and not mocapped by her
>performs with Council with the Smol models at end of stream
>performs Astrogirl as her final moment
>takes off limiter
>Smol model glows and turns into her 3D model for the last song and she blasts off into space

My condolences Sanallites. I loved her astrology streams and her original song was great too.
It feels like Sana got forced out of the company, unlike Coco who left on her own volition or Rushia who got fired.
Is there any chance of her roommate reincarnating?

I'm glad I got the bread dog merch instead of pussying out and waiting for next year.
Sad that she's leaving, but I guess it's for the best.
My life is starting to get a bit too busy for the vtuber hobby too, so I guess I won't be watching Hololive, anymore since I don't have any other oshi nor do I care about any of the other girls content except for Gura.

It's been a good time soaring the galaxies with you, Sanalites.

why was she fired

>>28019006
Don't be a retard.
You can find another oshi, judging by your tastes you have very low standards.

>>28020781
NY

>>28020781
picrel, also spending literally my entire work day with Sana while listening in to that members work basement stream.

>>28020781
her finding bad egg

Sana is a good girl who's personality is as bright as the Sun itself. I really liked watching her streams whenever I could and I was delighted to see her in collabs. My condolences to you, Sanalites.

Hey friends, you have my condolences. I’ll miss her too. I wish we got more content like her debut intro video, for me that was the most memorable thing about all of Council’s debuts

Going to miss her Jupiters and her streams

Can someone explain the "Israel" meme i've been seeing associated with this news - haven't been following vtubers much in general lately

>nintendo announces a kirby game with online multiplayer at the same time as sana announces her graduation
imagine the collabs that could have been...

>>28018861
Nobody has left the way sana has yet even Coco had disagreements with Cover and Aloe was unlikely to ever want to work with Cover again so i don't think her leaving will be the same as the other 2

>>28021334
because she treated her job as a side project with her friend.

>>28021780
israel is a misspelling of "is real"

>>28020781
>DETECTIIIIIIIIIIVE!
I wish Ame in the AM had survived for more than two episodes. Sana got featured in the second episode despite collab ban not being lifted yet (Coco used the same trick on her show with Gen 5), and I think the format would have done a lot of good for Council by having them be regular "characters" in that and help their channels grow. I always felt like Ame had a lot of fun ideas for Sana as a character (the Holofes announcement also featured Sana heavily) so I think Sana with her weird Oz humour would have been a regular as a sidekick in that had it continued. Would have been the perfect format for "Sana's Weekly Horoscope" segments in fact.

I don't blame Ame for this, she's a workhorse constantly fighting the machine to push her creative ideas through. I think Cover should have given Ame more support so it was actually a feasible thing to do. Legend of Polka for example does have actual managerial support and staff helping out, so Polka CAN make content to that scale regularly.

>>28021189
DELAY THE FUCKING GRADUATION COVER YOU COWARDS, THIS GAME IS LITERALLY MADE FOR SANA TO STREAM

>>28021334
Didn't meet her first year streams quota so her contract was renewed

>>28020781
a celeste stream that ended up becoming an extremely long superchat reading stream. Started late in the evening in my timezone and kept going until the sun rised. Literally fell asleep to her voice, got my full 8 hours of sleep, and woke up to her still talking.

>>28021800
Why would Cover wants to work with someone unfit to be a Holo? How can you guarantee Sana's health issue won't come up again during their future collab?
Doesn't sound like a viable business practice to me. I dunno.

>>28021855
> I think Cover should have given Ame more support so it was actually a feasible thing to do. Legend of Polka for example does have actual managerial support and staff helping out, so Polka CAN make content to that scale regularly.
sorry but ame is not japanese so we don't give a fuck. next time try being born in a our country,

I don't like seeing anons discussing back hort as the reason for her graduation, my dumb twisted mind would always assume the worst and I hate the feeling that comes with it

AS WE GO
WE REMEMBER
ALL THE TIME WE
HAD TOGETHER
AND AS OUR LIVES CHANGE
COME WHATEVER
WE WILL STILL BE
FRIENDS FOREVER!

o7

Finally I won't have to look at this ugly brown bitch's threads anymore while browsing.

>>28022064

>>28021780
Sana set her location to israel when she made the announcement

>>28020223
She didn't have to work two jobs. Even if she had duties to finish up, it doesn't take over a year to break free from a gacha company.

>>28021855
>I think Cover should have given Ame more support so it was actually a feasible thing to do.
>>28021942
>sorry but ame is not japanese so we don't give a fuck. next time try being born in a our country,

Cover gave a separate EN management to HoloEN.

haha :D

>>28022064

Bros, why didn't you save her?

>>28021189
Sana would have loved it

Didn't she barely stream?
I hear the same sort of shit about her gen too.

>>28022158
You can't save someone who doesn't want to save herself.

Almost a year with Sana and it wasn't near enough.
It hurts, bros.

>>28022188
her gen is shit, but she manages to a little bit shittier.

>>28019860
Back pain, hololive being a side gig, but let's be honest here, I think if anyone who has left were to come back occasionally it'd be her. This is the most Drama-free exit Hololive has seen yet.

I mean look at all the baseless RRAT's this board is shitting out about her exit without a shred of evidence. She Hardly streams and has low numbers? Mel. Choco. Aki. Ayame. Matsuri.

Cover doesn't shitcan for poor performance because their investment is pretty small and missing out on another Sakura Miko style comeback is something they'd rather not see happen.

The fact is that this decision was probably hers and not Cover's, and the holo fanbase doesn't know how to react.

>>28020909
I was thinking the same thing, It's unlikely she will become a mama but i have no doubt she will still do commissions if not for cover then for the girls

I WANT MY CHOCO GF BACK!

>>28019006
>deleted post
>those replies
d-did someone already off himself?

>>28021941
This is the most retarted mental gymnastics i've ever seen

>>28022158
I tried to
I watched every stream
I participated in chat
I membered, I bought merch

>>28022305
Unless you can fix her back there isnt much anyone can do.

I hope she becomes EN3 mama. We can at least hope to hear her voice during some special events like birthdays. She was the first EN to graduate but everything felt so unfinished. Everyone said this was the best decision for her but it would be very sad if she disappeared like that.

>>28022437
What's wrong with it though?

>>28021941
What does any of this have to do with commissioning a character design?

would you rather be an illustrator or a vtuber in hololive?

>>28022579
As a company, won't you prefer a healthy and cooperative artist over Sana?

i jwu..

>>28022639
>redjuice

>>28022639
You act like she has some mysterious illness we don't know about and not an injury that we know hinders her ability to stream but hasn't prevented her from delivering on her art work.

>>28017552
Post yfw sana graduate

>>28022267
>but Ayame
I can't believe we have two more weeks of this song and dance.

>>28022781

>>28022756
the fgo art work she pushes out is trash anyway.

I dont know why you chuckle fucks are so beat up over this. Sana is the warden of SPACE so she is all around you all the time. Jeeze stop being babies already.

>>28022468
No way they don't already have the designs lined up for EN3

>>28022849
>stop being babies already
Tell Sana to do that first

>>28022828
Got enough (You)'s yet

>>28020206
I dont think she hates streaming but I think she might have been unwilling to change her content to be more popular

>>28022971
Nah, he's right. Her Pokemon art had more soul.

>>28022756
>art
can take frequent breaks
likely have multiple days to work on something
just has an endpoint deadline to hit
>streaming
sit up facing a camera for hours on end
have to predict in your schedule when your back won't hurt

The core difference is one allows her to be a little more flexible

>>28022798
yeah just ignore the other four examples

My pain has gone down to a 6

>>28022971
sana and pako are shit arts. cope harder.

I never liked her. I hope m*ri fucks off as well.

>>28020206
The impression I get isn't that she hates streaming, it's just the type of content she wants to stream feels more like she would rather do it casually on the side without begging for the rights to just play a game she likes.
I do feel if she went indie, she would be happiest.

post THAT sana art

I always imagined Sana with a giant futa cock.

She better stay playable in Holocure so when future updates happen that get streamed, she will sit there as a constant reminder

>>28022267
>Mel. Choco. Aki. Ayame. Matsuri.
The thing with them is that they're still there to do idol shit and live shows. I imagine Sana being possibly unable to travel or perform would have had a lot to do with the decision. What if travel restrictions were lifted and they wanted to plan a group 3D debut for Council or have them perform at Holofes? They would either have to delay it to wait for Sana to get better (might not even happen) or do it without her which would've been heartbreaking.

>>28023227
Why want that empty husk?

i feel empty inside

>>28023227
They're apparently putting even Rushia in the game, Sana's spot is safe

>>28023423
Will they put in chris?

Kronii's lore gets updated where she merges with space in Sana's absence so she now controls Space-time and turns brown and gets even bigger tits and futa cock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gu1RLtLRQw&t=3715s
>What a day, what a lovely day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gu1RLtLRQw&t=3400s

>>28023211
Based!
Sana and San double penetrating (you) with their rockets before they blast off for good…

>>28023227
They already took the time to program her and her handful of unique abilities. Wouldn't make sense to remove her. Nobody wants less options to play as, regardless.

>>28023528
God I wish..

>>28023438
Let's not get to crazy there anon

After sleeping on it, I think I'll miss her more than I expected
She was a really nice girl

>>28023368
Good. Space is within you.

I will wait forever, even for the 1 in a million chance that she comes back

>>28024087
man what the fuck you could not post this and you did

>>28024087
If Sana said she's done, she's done.

Should I destroy my wallet for the bread dog plush...

if we buy her merch maybe she'l come back but thats only if the rrat of not making enough money is true i think it's more likely cover tried to push her and she said no.

>>28024374
I think if the merch sold out during her Birthday period, it might have helped. But if the issue is instead with 3D performing and travel which she can't do due to back problems, or with stream schedule, no amount of money would have fixed it.

>Graduation
Im out of the loop. Why?

>>28024374
I mean I doubt it's money
She made Cover roughly $40k in Superchat money, and that's without seeing how much they got from members/advertising/promotions.

>>28024430
>if the merch sold out during her Birthday period,
Its made to order... it literally cant sell out

>>28022781
Here

>>28024475
We don't know the exact reason

Is shipping still stupid expensive

>>28020918
<3

>>28024555
Sometimes I wish they'd come out and say it, so we don't have fags running rampant going, "she got fired! lolololol" - but if it's for private personal reasons, then just have to weather the storm

I have never posted in this split but hey, I am still her first day member and actively sc during the first week.
I don't know, she could be my oshi. I mean after a hard day dealing with bullshit in life, her energy gave me positive vibe. Though i didn't like the astrology stuff very much.
Maybe the star didn't guide her way on hololive path.
Hope that she will find happiness on her new venture

>>28024313
yes, I was contemplating that too. I dont regret it ordering the plush, especially now knowing she won't be here next year. I'm actually grateful I got it when I did.

>>28024880
sana LET GO

>>28024614
I remember thinking "damn I want the patch but shipping brings it up to $50 which is too much for a patch" and then the graduation happened, fuck me mate. I'll go check to see if it's still crazy, I don't doubt it. Someone advised me to order more stuff with it to make it seem worth but damn there goes the wallet

>>28024880
But we need to...

I listened to Astrogirl for the first time yesterday and thought it was cool and full of energy, then later that night the announcement hit. Sorry bros, you'll stay cool in my book.

Breaking News: Man who thought he couldn't cry anymore breaks into tears once again upon just thinking about Astrogirl.

>>28025015
It really seemed like a high point
She was streaming more and was having fun...

Why couldn't she just fucking steam in bed. I've already lost too much. Takahashi died not even a fucking week ago when he just wanted to snorkel.

>>28024783
Thing is if she was fired, wouldn't they just say she was terminated like with what happened to Rushia

Can someone post her roommate or at least a picture her roommate drew so I can reverse image search it?

>>28021189
Yeah I saw that and could only think of how much Sana will love this but we won't be able to see it. Kirby is forever changed for me.

>>28025230

>>28025230
I heard she was a very big fan of @namgoreng on Twitter.

>>28025106
you are asking too much commitment, best i can do is another month long break

>>28024475
No full details are known, and the statement is vague so we may never know unless she does a tell-all interview as her roommate to burn her bridge. It can't be for anything TOO serious if she's getting the full graduation treatment like Coco did rather than getting the Rushia treatment.
All we know from Sana's video is:
>she tried to make it work
>fan support is what kept motivating her, but the fan support wasn't enough
>she's not satisfied as she had more plans, but has accepted the "fairytale" is over
So it's all coming across as being unable to reach a contract agreement with Cover that satisfies both parties now that a year has passed (she would have been signed on some time before debuting) and the contract was up for renewal discussion. The issue most likely being down to either the stream schedule not being flexible enough for her to work her second job around, or her back injury preventing her from doing other requirements for Year 2 of the contract like 3D recordings or travel. But even this is just all assumptions.

>>28025444
It's pretty likely logical conclusions instead of insane rrats that antis wish was true.

Sana will only be remembered for, for making bbc jokes during that one stream where they had a dick measuring contest because that is what they think men do. We just whip out our dicks and tell the next guy to let me see it according to retard clock woman and this waste of a hire.

>>28025335
>>28025345
Thanks anons.

Im sorry for posting some of those "X days without a stream" threads a few months ago when she had hurt her back.

You dont deserve it sanalites. When I was saying she should graduate I was just trolling.

Sorry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8y1aWMlPOs
Astrogirl has now hit 400,000 views

imagine having given money to a lazy vtuber who will not have impacted or influenced anything, just tried to get in a hyper success trajectory and just struggled at the back to maintain some general baseline of activity, for the most part remaining comparatively anonymous even while working

i could see having given money for someone that left like coco, because at least her space in the scene led to new things, created opportunities and a lasting impact, like opening the door to EN and testing the waters with a new tier of edgy shit - but this one must feel like prime cucking, quite literally, just money burned in a fire for the sake of it

NPC see new avatar of popular thing, NPC must consume product and spend money on it

paying money to make someone work less, zero advantages, zero improvements, zero contributions, zero legacy, has shown burnout immediately because of the great opportunity and shortcut, basically the type of person you do not want to handle responsibilities or any kind of success

imagine being a Sana member, are you guys now going back to giving money to chatbots pretending to be girls, or will this function as a wake-up call that has you fund content that has any value?

Aussie collab confirmed for Saturday with Kiara, Haachama, and Baelz playing some Mario Party.

>>28024933
Exactly what I thought and I bought the Gura plushie as well to justify it.

Imagine the people getting their Sana merch from the 6 month anniversary after she has already graduated.

>>28025796
geekjack hate...

>>28025604
THIS IS WHAT IT TAKES FOR YOU FUCKS TO FINALLY GIVE A VIEW
Saw so many comments and tweets etc of people pretending to be sad but admitting that they never or rarely watched her. Nice fucking holofamily but only as long as it fits your schedule and feelsies. Not that it matters for her reasons to quit cover but still makes me angry.

>>28025796
fuck...

>>28024475
>person is bombarded by memes that she doesn't fucking work
>in the 578-filters-before-truth pr talk, they mention the parties can't find an agreement, and that sana couldn't make it like she wanted

she didn't want to work like it's required in hololive. what, you think every single member except the very first who constantly stream all do it out of the box? all the dozens of them just happen to want to be extremely active every day?
it's simple - girl doesn't want to work hard -> company that hustles hard is not compatible
like, even asking what the problem is, and pretending you didn't know, would be the first step of going into conspiracy theories or misdirection at this point.

>>28025604
Damn, thats crazy. Yesterday it was looking to cap at 370k for a while.

Enjoy the little time you have left with her as much as you can, Sanalites. It was enough for me when that bitch pulled the same stunt.

>>28025847
>you need to consume the same media as me even if you can't or don't want!

>>28025444
ITS OVER!

>>28025507
>they had a dick measuring contest because that is what they think men do.
You mean you don't? Are you worried because its small or something?

bread isnt a personality

Anyone know if they'll be taking gifts at Smash like they did with some other con appearances? Figure maybe I could give something tangible as opposed to just writing a letter of appreciation and farewell.

>>28025847
It will all be okay, friend. Take a breath <3

>>28025847
>but only as long as it fits your schedule
the level of irony from coping sana fans is astronomical.

>>28025933
Evaporate yourself into star dust.

I guess I need to do something else when Sana's gone. I guess I'll go into politics and make anime real.

>>28025796
I got the Sana acrylic and the mascot button set

>>28025604
>snail house
Goddamn, and it's actually a pretty interesting song. Really dislike the tempo choice and obviously her voice isn't amazing, but it's very smartly done. I had no idea she even had an orisong

>>28026108
How do you feel?

>>28025796
>>28024614
With those shipping charges it should teleport into my house immediately upon clicking the button

I don't know why they couldn't have just made a contract where she only gets paid from superchats but can stream on her own schedule. That costs Cover nothing, leaves the opportunity for her to still make them money, and she still gets to collab and portray the character on an occasional basis.

>>28026036
this sounds like some of those reddit comebacks.

>>28025796
I was even excited to get mine several threads ago >>27856569
Fucking hell

>>28026129
>>28026158
I'm still waiting for my Mumei acrylic, I swear to god If it arrives damaged I'm going to be tearing some heads off.

>>28026118
Sad, she was my oshi and the only Hololive talent to make me realize what having an oshi meant
I don't regret buying the merch, I'm going to have a nice spot to display my Sana merch, so I can remember the good times.

>>28024783
Well they're not gonna say "She chose her other job over this one"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E6mdR9Qw-g

crumb...

>>28025847
I would still be sad if someone I didn't watch had to graduate. I don't want any of them to leave, especially after barely being around for a year (well, less than that in Sana's case)

So how bad were her back problems actually? I simply assumed it’s hurting a lot from time to time, you know like with old people. But maybe she’s stuck to a wheelchair for the rest of her life or even partly paralyzed?
Maybe Cover gave up on her since 3D debuts or concerts were out of question?

I think Sana's legacy will be the Sanalites themselves. At least here on 4chan Sanalites are the comfiest fans with the comfiest general. We're here to love Sana. We don't really cause drama with other threads in my experience. Sanalites love Sana. When the Sanalites leave this board will go back to drama shit.

>>28026396
All we know is that she was supposedly bed ridden basically for months.

>>28026396
She mentioned not being able to get out of bed it hurt badly enough

>>28026396
Car accident bad

>>28026422
Don’t leave…

>>28017552

>>28024783
i think it's simply a case of too many commitments, she was able to juggle it before the back injury but afterwards it became too much to reasonably handle. it's hard to take stock of a situation and make permanent decisions like this one and she likely gave it a lot of thought. personally i would have liked a situation where she still associated with hololive, maybe made an appearance every couple of months but an attitude like that probably wouldn't work long term

>>28026396
For a while she could only manage two hour streams, and had to end because of the pain of sitting upright, even if she was excited about what she was streaming. She was bedridden for (at the very least) a month, and she probably couldnt draw due to the spine affecting all aspects of the body, meaning lifting your arms becomes incredibly painful as well. She mentioned sleeping nearly all the time, and "leaving the house for the first time in months" during one of her streams months after we found out about the injury. It was serious.

>>28026422
>Artist made mascot and helped with original song art
>Fan game
>Sent her a card that went to space

There's more I'm sure but... small spark that shined bright

>>28019860
>YouTube screws her over by making her channel lose more suscribers than anyone else on her gen
>Immediate shit storm over the color of the skin of her character. The shit storm can be felt through her inmediatly lagging behind the others in the first days
>Immediate shit storm over her wanting to do horoscopes
>Immediate shit storm over nepotism
>A lot of shit about her character design being ugly even though IRyS exists.
>Dog dies, she leaves and then that sorts of become a laughing matter
>Back injury. She now has to leave once more.

Sana had a super rough start and she never quite found her footing. She didn't really have any meaningful support from the audience like Kiara did.
This graduation is so drama free because this isn't about Cover or the other girls. I'm 100% sure that Sana is completely bittered towards the Hololive audience and, honestly, I don't blame her.

>>28026422
Our Klaius equivalent wasn't lifted as high as they should have been...

>>28026396
Unsure.
One thing you should know is that back injuries are nothing to downplay in general.
Sometimes they're minor and you'll heal up like nothing happened.
Other times is life changing. Most people don't realize how one back injury can sap almost all of their energy, even the minor ones. It becomes a chronic condition of which there is no cure.
On that note, do your stretches bros. Back, leg, and especially hip stretches if you are someone who sits a lot. Planks help too.

>>28026396
You'd be surprised how much a bad back injury could make someone just wanna off themselves due to the pain. No one is exactly really sure to what extent hers is though besides a few vague comments.

>>28026542
I want this shit world to end. I've fucking had enough.

I wonder if the people that paid for the birthday card space launch feel like their money just went down the shitter

>>28026422
>comfiest general.
Your general was dead. It was embarrassingly slow for a HoloEN member. Stop LARPing as an analite, they don't exist.

>>28026604
Pako has always been a hack propped up by contrarians and sub human fujos.

>>28026396
She was able to design a cake for 4 hours and run to the store in the middle of it

>>28026700
>Slow threads are not comfy.

>>28026725
At the end of May. Her injury happened in January.

>>28026396
We only know she bed ridden for month. Then comeback and cant even sit for 20 mins. Back problem is serious even it minor. There 1 time i crack my back too hard I like cant even get up for day. And it still hurting abit when i crouch now.

I am mad. Not at Sana ofc. Not at Cover either. Not at Council, even tho there are many reasons.
I am simply just mad it happened. Fuck man . . . this shit sucks. Gonna do what everyone else does - leave this board i guess.

>>28026725
so? this is the shit thing about back injuries/. People call you a lazy piece of shit if you do nothing, but call you a faker if you do anything. I had two back surgeries 5 years ago and it would have fucking blown if I had to navigate recovering while being a huge public streamer. That being said, I'm glad she quit. It obviously wasn't working for her

>>28026725
Funny enough the fact that she had to stand up to make the cake is probably why she was able to actually do that stream.

>>28026604
She said it was fan support that kept her going

>>28020781
Minecraft streams and 1:1 collabs were amazing, especially the ones with Ina.

Astrogirl was such a hopeful song when it landed, like things were going to be fine from now on... it hits very different now.

>>28026681
Nope, she loved it when she watched it on stream. It had a great final scene.

>>28020918
<3

time to scalp the Sana birthday merch full set

>>28026681
Well wonder no more, I don't. It was money well spent.

>>28026809
>mad it happened
I know why this shit happened and it pisses me off. We'll never know what could've been if none of that shit happened to ruin her career.

>>28026725
Because she was stood up rather than sitting down. I know you're going to think standing up should be harder, but the position of the body would put more strain on someone'd back injury in a sitting position than it would someone in a standing position.
Not to mention the cake making was in May when she was back to a bit more normality, and not in January when the injury was at it's worst.

>>28026942
Landing in a field of yellow flowers is so perfect it's hard to believe it wasn't planned.

>>28020781
Covering her room with confetti poppers, I love this woman.

>>28017552

Ive been on this website for over 14 years. i thought ive seen to what depths of depravity humanity can fall. You people might take the cake. This is so bad There has to be a new word invented for it.
You people are mentally ill. And i realize this is redundant to say on /vt/ so let me reiterate - you are more mentally ill than the average on this board. I mean it.
You have no one else to blame. Sana did this to herself. (You) did this to yourself. You are all enablers and victims in this abusive parasocial relationship. I would say to (You) all go fuck yourselves, but you already did that plenty.

Enjoy the abstract hell (You) created.

>t. unironic Holo tribalist numberfag

>>28020781
There's too many, one of my earliest was her perfectly vibing to rhythm heaven. Her screaming at getting Shiny Rayquaza was also cuteness overload

>>28026828
There a problem that sitting is more painful than standing. In that stream she standing to cook. So it actually less pain than sitting stream.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/pain/dont-take-back-pain-sitting-down

>>28026809
maybe it was a hidden blessing. This board isn't a productive use of time anyways.

>>28020781
The Xmas Minecraft stream where they built the gingerbread house together. I was having a rough night and put her stream on just to have something to relax to. Just hours of people randomly popping in and doing this one thing together. It was like peak post-Council EN Minecraft where you never really knew who was going to show up or what they were going to do. As much as people bitched about surprise collabs I'll always miss that era of EN.

>>28027370
I will buy Sana a standing desk and set her up so she can stream standing if she will ungraduate.

I made a sort of personal goodbye video to Sana to try and let out some feels ;_;

https://streamable.com/l0ea9l

>>28026914
>Astrogirl was such a hopeful song when it landed,
Alays sounded very melancholy to me. The text seems to fit too well into what we know now for it not have to be written in this context.

>>28027314
what the fuck is this about? Nobody is blaming anyone. This has been the smoothest, calmest, least schizo graduation of this board's history

>>28027579
Don't bite bait, that one's literally copy pasted for fucks sake

>>28027579
>least schizo graduation of this board's history
And the threads are still this bad. What a terrible shithole. Glad I barely visit anymore.

Sana will come back with even bigger tits!

>>28027820
Then her back would be REALLY fucked up.

>>28027500
Anon, I...

I feel all alone and the universe isn't fun anymore.

>>28027500
I didn't wanna cry again...
Never got too involved with /vt/'s creative projects but I like the Sana stuff /ybc/ makes
I'm gonna miss her very much...

>>28026367
*record scratch*
[MGS ALERT] WAIT A MINUTE <Taco Bell BONH> Sana's GRADUATING?!?! *wet shart* [Darth Vader NOOoOoOooo] (WTF BOOM) <wut da dog doin> Il_mare_eterno_nella_mia_anima.wav [Majora's Mask bells]

>>28028248
Stop being the personification of cringe.

>>28027671
Other threads yeah, but this one is pretty chill.

>>28028284
I'm just taking one last shot at crumb.

>>28027500
This is beautifully done, I've been staving off the tears, but will probably come back to this for a good cry later on.

>>28028248
Thanks for the chuckle. Haven't been able to smile since the news.

https://twitter.com/roreruru/status/1546893737027981312

>>28017552
So...who will you guys switch over to?

SANAAAAAAA
DON'T TAKE MY SWEET CHOCOLATE TITTY WAIFU YAGOO PLS

>>28027500
>Gosling
I'm sorry, but I can't take anything with him seriously anymore

>>28028580
Said it before, but I think I'm done with vtubers for a while. I may watch the occasional clip, but Sana was what got me into actually watching vtuber streams in general, and shes such a unique personality that I don't think I could find anywhere else.

>>28028686
I understood goslingposting but I never truly felt it in my heart of hearts until this graduation

>Sana's last karaoke.
>She sings Fansa.
NGMI.

>>28028580
>switch
I'm done with Hololive
Been watching for 3 years already anyway. I probably would've been a nousagi/KFP/teamate but for some reason this cute brown space goddess caught my attention. She was the perfect holo for me, and besides being entertaining (I know this is subjective but I REALLY enjoy her content) she inspired me to get off my ass and create stuff.
She's given color to my dull life, and I don't know for how long I can keep this up without her

>>28027318
https://files.catbox.moe/4f9eui.mp4

>>28028891
I'd reccomend Sara from PRISM. She is the closest you'll get to Sana.

>>28027500
Fuck man I'm not even a Sanalite and I felt this

>>28028891
Don't let that inspiration flame fade out anon. You know that she would want you to continue even without her.

>>28027500
Very nice, mucho appreciated

>>28029094
I will do my best!
with delivery too, hopefully
I've already broken my promise to get so much better at art and make a sana image worthy of a like/retweet from her, and I'm just sad she probably wouldn't be around to see me get to that level

>>28028808
>the final song is Space Oddity

>>28027989
We still have 20 days left anonchama. 20 days of fun before the void comes creeping in. So til then try raising your head up high a bit, we'll make it, hopefully.

>>28029323
Even worse. I'll cry a river.

im only really sad for pako who shows a lot of love for sana as his daughter....

>>28029020
I follow Sara and she's very good, but not really the same energy. She's not a space baby. She's like a more chill Bae.Definitely deserves more followers though.

>>28029020
>tall brown skinned busty Aussie with comfy streams

They are similar in many ways.

>>28029323

>>28028580
Anya is my other main. There's about 15 other girls I like and follow casually across the three branches (+ Pikamee), but Sana and Anya are the two I would call my oshis. As long as the sassy knife and the Anya-Petra General sticks around, I'll be fine.

Condolences from a fellow space appreciator

>>28029365
'Don’t cry because it’s over. Smile because it happened.'

I'm working on a space themed logo and I can't stop thinking about her, she said she loved graphic design too in her debut, what terrible timing

>>28029323

>>28029323
That would destroy me.

I think I'll jam to the No Man's Sky soundtrack as I fall asleep
I'm not ready to listen to Astrogirl again just yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atxo9AWrdjo
:(

>>28028580
Hoping she'll do roommate streams. I showed up for the cute design, but I stayed for the personality.

>>28029398
>we never got the casual outfit or ponytail Sana

Kiara didn't know Sana was graduating until America meet up from Ina

>>28028580
While I did become an IRyS fan during her back hort hiatus, I really can't compare that with the dedication I have for Sanner, even now. The space baby had a vibe that's truly unique to her and can't be compared to anyone I've followed before or since.
I might just revert to my pre-Council days of casual stream watching and clipfagging.

Please reach out if you have anything planned
https://twitter.com/MistleToesArt/status/1546901966508490754

>>28022781
Honestly, the first thing that I saw of her was the EN ochame kinou cover. To me she's even more of a "literally who" than ayame because at least ayame is the "literally who" character. I feel more bad for Ina than for her

Kronii members only stream in a bit, I won't be getting a membership just to hear her (possibly) talk about Sana, but considering their relationship she just might

>>28029850
hm yeah, I'd like to know too

I'm so fucking mad. I have no choice but to make anime real.

>>28028970
Damn yeah that was it, thanks for that

>>28029686
I can imagine one of Ina's dreams was getting to perform on stage with Sana in some way. Maybe if there wasn't the covid travel restrictions, all their 3D debuts would be further along and this could have happened by now.
Ina's section of the goodbye video on the 31st will be the bit that breaks me.

>>28030086
Yeah, a lot of other people have said they're not too affected but as a tako it really hurts that Ina's losing her best collab partnet. They were just so good together.

>>28022781

>>28030086
I'm already in the dumps, but the goodbye will just be a bad day overall.

Worst part is I can't even do something nice as a send-off gift, cause all my stuff is in the old appartment till the end of month.

>>28030219
I'll always be affected by a Holo graduating even if they're not one I watch, because it sucks seeing happy stuff come to an end and I can see the pain of their fans.

>>28022781

>>28022781

>>28020781
Personally it was the work basement stream, even if I could only tag along for half of it live since it was well past midnight for me.

>>28030344
You can send her a letter before October

>>28030344
I don't know what I'd do if it was Mumei, even knowing where she's going it was sad to see her ast life end, losing her altogether...

Honestly the circumstances around Sana's graduation is probably best case scenario. She didn't yabe, she didn't burn out, she didn't get harassed by antis. She's still leaving on good terms, there's always the chance of a cameo appearance, and her leaving means she can focus on getting her back fixed.

Man, July is a shitty month isn't it. July 1st Coco graduates, July 31st Sana graduates...

>>28030535
Holocaust was in July as well

>>28030535
And, however slight it may be, she could come back

>>28030512
As a hooman Mumei going would break me ten times over

Gonna have to animate a little dance to this for her graduation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU-BwKtglPw&ab_channel=なのか

>>28030344
I'm glad they're doing the thing on the 21st, but it's still not going to feel right on the day where Council share the stage and it's just the four of them + Irys. Coco's send off was perfect because she had done enough so that other than the girls that never got on Meme Review, she had done everything and there was closure. This one feels like there was so much more to do. It's like how HoloFantasy doesn't feel right now because of the abruptness that Rushia left.

https://twitter.com/wishbone777/status/1546903586902528000

>>28030794
For real, Coco's graduation felt like the perfect sendoff and a bittersweet occasion, this just feels abrupt and bitter even if she's leaving on good terms

>>28030576
July confirmed for Hell Month

Kiara has confirmed that there is no Holotalk. She wanted it to happen, but with Sana only having up to the 21st for streams and Kiara finding out too late, there's no time to set it up.

I do wonder why there's nothing between the 22nd and 30th though.

>>28030535
Yeah she only permanently damaged her back for life and probably needs medication and surgery!
All good and fine ans long as Covers good name is not further tained!.

>>28030799

>>28030620
In my experience back issues never really get better. If that's what's hampering her then I doubt she'll be able to return

Shut the fuck up about redditdragonwhore. Go watch her show her cunt on vshojo stream if you miss her so much.

I'm gonna miss Sana and you, Sanalites...

>>28030799
>now we get more InaSana art
fuck you cloutchasers
yes I'm mad

>>28028580
I'll just watch her roommate YT I'm sure she'll stream consistently on that channel which will REALLY hurt some Sanalites.

>>28028580
Ina is my other oshi but I look up to both of them a lot so I'll follow Sana even beyond Hololive

>>28030535
Yeah no. Fuck Cover. This is good circumstances for them. Not for Sana herself. Sana will quit vTubing and stick with gacha art since her back can no longer take sitting up streaming.

>>28030876
Can't help but agree. We got Astrogirl just a month ago, things were looking bright for the future, and now we're going to lose her.

She wasn't big, but she was special, and soon she'll be gone.

>>28031038
That's on her for falling for the hunchback artist meme.

>>28031038
>>28031239
>Cover is responsible for Sana's back
Nah, samedude.

>>28031218
May I ask what is her roommate YT? Can i have link?

>>28031399
Scroll up
Jesas

>>28031218
I'd probably become whatever banana-pun it'd involve if she went solo. She is a rare case of 100% 1:1 personality between the accounts.

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>>28031269
>She wasn't big

>>28030511
Where can I get more info on this?

>>28031269
Everybody besides her in Council managed to meet up too. That didn't seem too bad when there was still hope she could meet up in the future, but we all know what those chances are now.

>>28031367
You can't read and and don't care about Sana.

What a waste of a sex design.
Why didn't she just stream.
Why didnt she just stream...

>>28021855
Ame doesnt need support, she needs ambition.
Legend of Polka exists because polka wants it to exist.
All Ame's projects end because Ame looses interest quickly

>>28027500
Fuck dude, you opened my floodgates. Been building up since yesterday.

Even though the birthday merch has reopened, knowing that now she'll never do a signed postcard, stamped or handwritten, hurts a lot. Is there any merch featuring her signature? TMK none of the Weiss Schwarz cards have a signature, and the one that would have had one is instead stamped with the holo expo logo. There's no set list for the chocolate cards, but the ones I've seen featuring her just have her name in a curly font, and the Anime NYC cards have nothing either

>>28024160
fucking Redditor

>>28031205
He drew this just a week ago. I'm sure there would be more InaSana art if they had collabed more often.

Oh look what a shocker. The fanatical redditdragonwhore simp is a /pol/roach. Never seen before and totally not the case 99% of the time cause you roaches were the biggest invaders of the board during the drama.
How DARE someone does not like a shity reditmeme spouting trashpile that did nothing but leech content of others and say SHIT FUCK in english. Not to forget the HILARIOUS didldo in her ass and heroine overdosing LMAO
Truely the comedic genius of our time and everyone who disagrees must be paid by [some country /pol/ told me to hate]
Time to shill and spam for her in a 100% unrelated thread once again to defend the White Race™ honor treatened by "zang"

>>28032143
can you not?

No more comfy /nasa/ threads bros. It will be a shitshow for the next two weeks.

>>28032398
Now let them pop out

>>28032143
Why do bugmen have such thin skin

>>28032398
Just come take refuge in /wah/

>>28032398
/nasa/ was by far one of the best threads on this board and probably the entire site
I will miss it...

>>28032569
Damn if Sanalites all look this good I might have to turn to cannibalism

>>28020781
Honestly, Astrogirl.

From the karaoke stream I watched I didn't thought her original song would be anything amazing, but I would definitely support it and listen to it.

To my and many surprise Astrogirl is such an amazing song, it fits everything of her in it. I literally listen to it everyday on my way to work.

>>28030649
This is almost amazing except for that bad trumpet sample.

>>28032548
Ina is my number 1, but she's just not the same kind of energy as Sana.
Their off-screen friendship is also going to be a torturous reminder of what we lost.

>>28027500
>sniff
space baby made me so happy
the other girls made me smile but Sana was the sunshine

>wont see Sana playing the new Kirby with council
why live

Who wants to adopt a bread dog?

>Sana merch extended
Wonder if I should buy another set or two to scalp in the future? Thoughts?

>>28020781
Sana
She was the the brightest star in the sky to me.
Introduced me to a world I thought I'd never join.
Watching her Stream I am bread, Undertale, Celeste, pretty much any game was a fun time with her.
I hate to say it when I know about the one anon in these threads, but she was like a little sister you could watch play games and have fun.
When her say her Dog died I understood it.
My Cat died a year before and I wish I could have taken a month off of work.
When she stopped because of back pain I wish her the best or just wish I could have her all my pain meds heating pad
Watching her play legends and catch the Togekiss early was such a fun moment
DP Remakes and how excited she was to finally get the shiny Rayquaza
Dread and hating having to deal with the EMMI while still trying to move on
Just everything about Kirby
The Baking Stream
Her Original Song Announcement and then sub-sequential release. Man I listen to it for hours after it release
I may not have been there for every moment, but i'm happy I could be there for the ones I was and see them via clippers

I'll miss her and any moments we probably could have gotten.
But hopefully with all these memories, maybe it'll be like she never left

>>28034019
buy enough bread dogs to fill your whole bed with them

>>28028580
I am afraid I will have to touch grass

>>28027500
very nice work anon, so many good moments with her.

I ordered the plush and the glass, they will never fill the void left but it's something.

>>28034297
New York's got PSAs about nuclear strikes now. Sana was the only thing keeping us from starting WWIII.

Be honest, those of you who ordered the birthday merch: Are you planning to refund?

>>28034776
Never, its the last thing that will attach me to my oshi

>>28034776
roru roru rumao

>>28034776
Hell no.

>>28034776
Opposite. I was going to wait til next year for different merch, but I took the plunge because it extended as it's the last time I'll be able to get any Sana stuff.

I just watched Astrogirl. It's good. Real good, better then I thought it would be.

>>28034180
Kronii's Superhot and Sana's Celeste stream are what got me to start watching these girls. people really didn't appreciate how good Sana's first month was.
the algorithm really fucked her and the clippers weren't even watching, but she had such a great gamer mindset the whole way through that it made me quickly appreciate how these girls weren't just about their avatars.

what's more, Sana having such a sex design but wearing it with pride while just being herself made me somehow look past the booba. she never tried to hide her extreme dorkiness, and it felt like it took the other Council members a little longer to catch up to her in that regard.

Don't dwell on the graduation too much, Sanalites. Focus on positives. Talk about upcoming streams.

>>28035027
Is there anything today? I know tomorrow is Ame

>>28033892
>we'll never get a Star Allies offcollab

hoping on towa collab

>>28035383
>We will never get a Sana collab of vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOGQv0hJNJ8