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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>61,665: Pekora (Hololive)
>59,594: Leos (Nijisanji)
>45,810: Lize (Nijisanji)
>41,186: Miko (Hololive)
>37,925: Rion (Nijisanji)
>23,798: IRyS (Hololive)
>17,223: Hal (Neo Porte)
>16,043: Mumei (Hololive)
>15,355: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,850: Noel (Hololive)
>14,380: Luna (Hololive)
>13,929: Mumei (Hololive)
>12,924: Mio (Hololive)
>10,337: Vox (Nijisanji)

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>>27984572
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu

>PER COMPANY
7x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
1x: AZKi, Mayuzumi, Miko, Nijisanji, Salome, Shion, Subaru, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
125x: Hololive
56x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
21x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
13x: Miko
12x: Kuzuha
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Okayu
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mori, Mysta, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>> No.27984733

Well the other thread is consumed by the Sanalites and Dramaniggers.
Any nice numbers happening tonight?

>> No.27984905

>>27984733
PekoMarine Rust vs Kuzuha Koshien

>> No.27984911

>>27984733
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aw0pKC7Djw

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>>27984572
SILVER
>1) 38,292: Salome (Nijisanji) Unpacking (Low energy)
>2) 64,120: Marine (Hololive) Holocure
>3) 70,134: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) *Niji event
>4) 32,929: Botan (Hololive) Holocure
>5) 49,897: Salome (Nijisanji) Rhythm Tengoku
>6) 51,071: Salome (Nijisanji) Idolm@ster Million Live
>7) 49,060: Noel (Hololive) NoePeko DQ11S gambling
>8) 35,848: Marine (Hololive) Zatsu
>9) 107,144: Salome (Nijisanji) 1st Utawaku
>10) 34,727: Toya (Nijisanji) Toya
>11) 59,594: Leos (Nijisanji) Nijisanji Koshien


> PER COMPANY
7x: Nijisanji
4x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
4x: Salome
2x: Marine
1x: Nijisanji, Botan, Noel, Toya, Leos

edit to whoever takes the day

>> No.27985566

>>27984905
>>27984911
Nice, the classic battle returns.

>> No.27985663

>>27984572
>10,337: Vox (Nijisanji)
(Z)

>> No.27985758

>>27984572
BRONZE
>1) 35,700: Todoroki Kyoko (Nijisanji) 3D Reveal
>2) 62,797: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) Graduation announcement
>3) 60,986: Yorumi Rena (Nijisanji) SMC 3rd Anniversary
>4) 29,741: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft
>5) 48,415: Marine (Hololive) Holocure
>6) 46,066: Subaru (Hololive) TowaShuba collab
>7) 36,803: Kiara (Hololive) 3D Birthday
>8) 32,445: Watame (Hololive) Clubhouse 51 collab
>9) 38,689: Mel (Hololive) Live2D 3.0 update 4/5
>10) 31,811: Pekora (Hololive) MonHun Sunbreak
>11) 45,810: Lize (Nijisanji) Nijisanji Koshien


> PER COMPANY
4x: Nijisanji
7x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
1x: Todoroki Kyoko, Mayuzumi, Yorumi Rena, Miko, Marine, Subaru, Kiara, Watame, Mel, Pekora, Lize

>> No.27987721

bunker thread?

>> No.27988292

Hate to say this, but Sana graduating is the right choice. Irys can become the space element in Council too. It all works out. It would be pretty cool lore wise with the redesign.

>> No.27988562

>ame wanted to raid mumei
>didn't even know how
sasuga debuffson

>> No.27988805

Numbers, what do you think about Pekora/Marine Rust? Kuzuha Koshien? What kind of digits can we expect?

>> No.27988859

>>27988292
This. She finally be enters the main cast

>> No.27988893

>>27988562
she raided kaela before so she does know how

>> No.27988920

>>27988292
No it's not, Sana being there dragging Council's numbers down is a good way for us to cope that Noctyx is not a failure.

>> No.27989048

>>27988562
She knows how to, she said it didn't work. Maybe it's just fucked right now.

>> No.27989082

>>27988893
Yeah but there are times where you can't just chooose it from a list and you have to get the link. Fauna has had to do it that way most of the time, Ame probably doesn't know about it

>> No.27989179

>>27988805
>PekoMarine Rust
Split pov? 62k/57k
One pov on Pekoras channel? 74k
One pov on Marines channel? 68k
Kuzuha Koshien? 80k
Kuzukek will win Gold for once.

>> No.27989206

Sana buff numbers for the next 20 days? Sana better get gold,l I want my Big tiddy tan lewds.

>> No.27989687

>>27989206
Just post it anyway, you sperg. You only have the rest of the month until she's gone forever.

>> No.27991385

>>27989687
ogey
>>27987721
didnt realise there was another thread up

>> No.27992811

This thread literally dies when shitposters are busy baiting in other threads.

>> No.27992943

>>27989179
What's the deal with Koshien? It is like watching Pokimane playing virtual NFL. Who would want that?

>> No.27994165
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>>27992943
Same reason anons here watch divegrass. You get to see your favorite people (in our case, homegrown memes) compete in a completely fictional made up tournament where the story line is completely dictated by RNG. Makes for fun storylines and its like gambling, same thrill.
/hlg/ summer 2020 /jp/ cup Champs btw

>> No.27994612

>>27988920
i wish i was a failure like noctyx and got like 30k per month on SC alone

>> No.27994679

So much for being graduation month for nijisanji huh kek

>> No.27994685

>>27984911
>in 8 hours
I'm gonna have to wake up earky fuck

>> No.27997247

Numberbros, I need an answer.
Did Kson’s SC decrease a lot after she graduated as Coco?

>> No.27997538

when did this get age restricted?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bINiAs2Tus

>> No.27997648

>>27997247
Yup
She lost her box, what you expect
And she got a lower ccv when joining VS

>> No.27997719

>>27997247
It was pretty close to what it used to be before the graduation buff, but the last 6 months or so they decreased a lot

>> No.27997746

>>27997538
I don't think anyone knows. Also not sure WHY it got age restricted.

>> No.27997805

>>27997538
yesterday
probably got reported because she talk about BL fujos
fujos got mad or something

>> No.27997809

>>27997648
Did she know that joining vshojo is suicidal?

>> No.27997875

Will they move IRyS to Council now?

>> No.27997880

I dreamnt of irys getting into council instead of sana where she gets pako as a papa while cover gets an actual EN VSinger who writes and sings English songs

Imagine a timeline where it do be like that

>> No.27998005

>>27997875
Why? What difference does it make?

>> No.27998018

>>27997875
Unofficially? Of course
Officially? I don't think so, but after seeing her announce yesterday it could be possible some new lore shit with her new model/remake/fix or whatever they are doing with her

>> No.27998105

http://www.joehallock.com/edu/COM498/preferences.html#favbygender

In case you are wondering why blue holo stronk.

>> No.27998116

>>27997746
did she say any banned youtube words?

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Hey, at least they got 3D models

>> No.27998201

jwu and saw the announcement.
Guess this basically confirms that Pako papa will be doing an Irys redesign, considering that the inner circle knew for some time.

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>>27982445
Damn she really is the first one ever fired for being a fucking failure
Kind of amazing when you consider all the JPs who languished like Towa with the yab, Mel getting fucking molested and threatening to sue the company, AZKi with the frog, Choco with Susan banning her only gimmick, Matsuri after destroying her fanbase, Roboco sucking at APEX, Aki being Aki, Holostars being male, IDs pre-peko handout and Gen3 being SEA and Luna being bullied how objectively unqualified and terrible you have to be to fail out of the company
I wonder if Ina's pay will be docked due to this

>> No.27998273

Definitely looks like the beginning of the end for Hololive. You just know everyone else in Hololive is looking at how Sana got fired and thinking, wow, that could be me, they could really just refuse to renew my contract for no reason at all and destroy my livelihood. Thinking this is what kicks off VshojoJP as an actual force, or maybe we might even get a Holo to Niji convert.

>> No.27998321

>>27998236
>>27998273
Go back to the catalog thread you made before

>> No.27998347 [DELETED] 

Wasn't Sana (and Mumei) shunned by people because they have bfs? It is just normal that people don't care whether they graduate or not.

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>>27998273

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>>27998105

>> No.27998445

>>27998005
Easier for promotion I guess? IRyS can get whatever sponsorship Council got rather than being a standalone weird Project Hope. Just like how Fubuki is in both Gen 1 and Gamers.

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>worse numbers than sana
>still keep going for 2 years
how did she do it

>> No.27998533

>>27998321
this is /#/, Sana was fired because she didnt have /#/ I will post here and nowhere else

>> No.27998539

I wonder if Ina will graduate after this. I just saw the clip where she cried while looking at Sana's house. Now every time they play minecraft she'll be reminded that her pick was a failure.

>> No.27998548

>>27997247
Here, I will spoonfeed you. Monthly SC numbers between Jan to end of June - 2021 for Coco and 2022 for Kson:
Coco:
>Jan: 140,041$
>Feb: 175,685$
>March: 142,935$
>April: 133,779$
>May: 115,485$
>June: <Graduation Month so I'm not counting - 449,165$, by the way>
KSon:
>Jan: 63,113$
>Feb: 61,322$
>March: 56,958$
>April: 39,486$
>May: 33,976$
>June: 57,953$
You can see for yourself

>> No.27998582

>>27984905
King will easily win this one. Pekomarine is not single POV.

>> No.27998586

>>27998445
They can just combine them as "cope" just like how we are doing right now.

>>27998406
No pink in the survey? It is definitely my second favourite colour.

>> No.27998594

>>27998236
>>27998273
>>27998533
>>27998539
All these posts were made by the same subhuman retard

>> No.27998599
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>>27998406
>Green 14% champion

>> No.27998612

>>27998406
Why are there no blue nijis?

>> No.27998652

>>27998515
She actually streams, which is what cover cares about more than numbers.

>> No.27998690

>>27998406
I thought red would be the second most popular colour

>> No.27998713

>>27998533
Sana quit because she couldn't commit to streaming frequently anymore. She wasn't fired, schizo

>> No.27998715

>>27998548
just to stream. fuck what dream job.

>> No.27998720

>Chloe mentions 'superchat reading'
>Stream immediately loses more than 1k people
jesas, absolute numbers poison
went from 8k to 6k like nothing

>> No.27998723

>>27998273
>they could really just refuse to renew my contract for no reason at all
are you fucking stupid, the reason is extremely clear and obvious and easily avoidable

>> No.27998753

>>27998612
Amamya...Chigusa...Chihiro...Leos...

>> No.27998757

>>27998273
>You just know everyone else in Hololive is looking at how Sana got fired
Literally said it was her own decision, or are we masking that with the good'ol "Cover forced her to say it" trick?
It probably went with Cover going to Sana and saying-
>Yo you getting 3D next year, can you get out of bed and come to Japan?
>No?
>Alright thanks for being with us

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>>27998406
holyshit

>> No.27998780

>>27998612
Lize?

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This is why you fags hate Kiara and Coco.

>> No.27998883

>>27998515
College girl with flexible time
No other job demand
Have lot of friend in Japanese circle like mangaka and artists and Tenga twitter admin
No back hort
Live in Indonesia with small living expense where you can eat 3 meal a day just with 5-10$

>> No.27998926

>>27998792
Not the only reason I hate kiara, but possibly a small part.

>> No.27998942

>>27998792
Why do people hate purple? I thought Velvet / dark purple is considered a pretty classy color

>> No.27998959

>>27998792
wtf old men hate gura???

>> No.27998975

>>27997809
I heard some Tatsunokos were angry. Kson promised to stay indie and will never join another company. NOW Kson joins another company and proceeds to claim Vshojo is not a company and she is still indie.

>> No.27999005

>>27998942
Purple is a rare royal color. Also It's the usual color used by villains in cartoons.

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>>27998406
GREENCHADS RISE

>> No.27999046

>>27998780
Lize is white.

>> No.27999102

So when's sana's graduation stream?

>> No.27999125

>>27998792
Kek and both of them have both red and orange on their design.

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>> No.27999336

>>27998792
What kind of sperg has a least favorite color, I've never thought about that in my life.

>> No.27999370

>>27997809
Not really? I don't have any feelings for Kson or coco, so I'd like to think I'm impartial. Joining Vshojo may destroy her brand image /here/ but /vt/ is just a microcosm of the vtubing fanbase
By joining Vshojo, Kson has access to manufacturing for merchandise and funding for projects. These are massive. Normally the investment you put in as an indie for merch is quite significant, and if you want to see a good return on investment, you need to contract the right companies. It's very difficult to do as an indie -- oftentimes many indies get scammed -- and joining a company would alleviate a great deal of that pressure
Vshojo seems quite lax in its policies too in terms of what they'll allow Kson to do. She can resume her regular activities, all with the funding and backing of a company, so it's an absolute win for her. Anyone who says otherwise isn't thinking rationally. She won't lose the entirety of her viewership overnight, and it's not like she won't find a way to get new viewers to watch her

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>1 viewers for 20 minutes
What happened here?

>> No.27999516

>>27999336
It's the least preferable colour. Say you have a colour tier list then you just put a number to it 1-10, 1 one being your favourite and 10 being the least favourable.

>> No.27999547

>>27999370
This reeks of cope. The kind of twitch viewers of the Vshojo box if you can even call it that, basically just the weeb twitch coomers who think they are above titty streamers won't be nerdy enough to like Kson's humor, if she streams in English to pander to those people she further alienates her JOPs who are suspicious about the new company. At best she might see a slight incline but she won't see long term growth maybe a change in plateau

>> No.27999577

>>27999432
bot check got stuck due to the number of bots

>> No.27999580

>>27999174
It's most likely a different contract from a different time but yeah I can understand why people make that comparison.

>> No.27999604

So are we replacing the Sana Line on our /vt/ league team?

>> No.27999652

>>27997875
Not officially but including IRyS together will allow a 5 person group so I wouldn't be surprised if new outfits and stuff will be done together.

>> No.27999673

>>27999604
I don't see why we should at least until a new numbers punching bag is thoroughly established.

>> No.27999693

>>27999547
I guess we'll see. Having no experience of Kson besides clips, all I can do is follow her numbers. Both as Coco and an indie, they were incredibly impressive (easily top .1%)

>> No.27999694

>>27999432
yt bugged?

>> No.27999766

>>27999370
I honestly don't care that kson joined vshojo
I'll always be grateful to her for getting holo out of bugland
But the "I'm still an indie" shit just to keep the tatsunokos made me think a lot less of her

>> No.27999949

>>27999370
I wonder how is the reputation of Vshojo for JOP. Brand does matter as we can see from Sony's chuubas.

>> No.27999958

>>27999694
>>27999432

happened with Sana's stream too

>> No.27999982

>>27998548
Wow
lmao

>> No.28000058

>>27999673
Mario Mendoza retired in 1981
when you consider that her number was so bad it caused her to graduate but no female member of NijiCN could beat it that seems like it should enshrine it as a permanent fixture in the thread, maybe average out her all time ccv as the "Sana Line" going forward?

>> No.28000089

>>27999999
>>28000000
>>28000001

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>>27998105
>>27998406
>Also picrel
The primodial color of Virtual Being was blue. Miku was blue, 2D was blue, also Ado became popular cause she a blue woman too.

>> No.28000214

>>27999693
I watched bitch from her debut as coco and a small handful of her indie streams, I quite liked her event streams but I can tell she's been taken for a ride by the Vshojo CEO from that spiel. She was always more heart then brains.

>> No.28000328

>>27998942
It's a color that represent widows

>> No.28000334

>>27999652
They were already grouping them together. It won't change much

>> No.28000449

>>27998347
Only 4chan and doxxsites know/care about Mumei's and Fauna's BFs, Mumei has the 2nd highest subs and ccv in Council. People don't care about Sana because she has the lowest streaming hours and ccv in HoloEN.

>> No.28000508

>>27997875
But isnt it a stupid move
Another rrat will appear "sana was kicked out to promote irys, fuck holo management black company cope"

>> No.28000539

Got told to ask you all. What's the website that adds up all your superchats together? The one where you can see other people's too kinda like a ranking system? I saw that's how people were tracking orca's superchats to rushia/Mike for example

>> No.28000544

>>27999336
It’s orange for me. Prolonged exposure, like when the sky is heavily tinted orange at twilight, actually gives me headaches

>> No.28000557

>>28000449
They're never mentioned or hinted at anywhere on streams so it's not something anyone would know about unless they went out and looked for it, so not surprising it doesn't actually affect them. It's not like Nyanners and Aethel being lovey dovey on stream.

>> No.28000583

>>28000539
playboard

>> No.28000584

>>27999370
>manufacturing for merchandise
They take bigger cut in merchs than any other corpo since they dont touch the girls' dono money. Gurun basically just pay the girls for their IPs and take all the rest of the merchs profits
>and funding for projects
No they dont. The girls pay everything themselves. And no, that Vclan concert was not their project

>> No.28000701

>>28000508
Wasn't Irys literally talking about yesterday how she kept pushing hard for a change in her appearance? I mean...given pako is probably going to be her new papa, there's a strong possibility she indirectly got Sana fired because Cover wanted to free him up to work for Irys instead.

>> No.28000812

>>27998765
Kiara...

>> No.28000820

>>28000701
meds

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aw0pKC7Djw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXMA6P0dXYU

>> No.28000839

>>28000508
That's a really stupid narrative, not like "sana was kicked instead of quit on her own" is not a stupid narrative to begin with.
>>28000701
>Cover wanted to free him up to work for Irys instead
Anon, becoming a holomama/papa is not a full time job.

>> No.28001071

>>27998548
>>27997247
2021 (Coco + Kson) = 1,978,144 = $863,381.05 (after cuts)
2022 Kson as of the end of June = 312,808 = $218,965.6 (after cuts)

>> No.28001131

>>28000812
But Roberu

>> No.28001144

>>28000584
It's similar to how VOMS works where Gyari doesn't touch their income but in exchange he takes almost all the merch profits.

>> No.28001156

I wonder how much if at all of a graduation buff Sana will get considering the girls will probably be scrambling to arrange collabs with her

>> No.28001163

>>27997746
>>27998116
>@43:30
>"Ehehe... Cheeky fuckers! You think you can get away that easily now, huh?!"
All it takes is one...

>> No.28001194

>>28000812
Coco....

>> No.28001233

Somehow I'm just hearing the news now about the Sana graduation (curse being busy). Fucking crazy! That marks only the 2nd major graduation in the history of Hololive (Sana and Coco).

She was a sweet girl so I wish her the best. Shame it didn't work out.

>> No.28001307

>>27998548
>>28001071
So it did decrease by a lot huh. And tatsunokos said that she earned much more money than before as an indie.

>> No.28001312

>>28000822
How come no Holo has ever touched Valheim

>> No.28001331

>>28001144
Yeah kinda like that. They still ofcourse got a cut, but not as much

>> No.28001383

NijiEn is getting 28-2 in the special Olympics this month. Sana graduation buff will be too strong

>> No.28001401

>>28001312
Because that game died too quickly in public interest. Rust atm are currently being played by most top twitch streamers.

>> No.28001473

>>28001131
Doesn't wear orange the same way kiara does

>> No.28001485

>>28001233
Rushia....

>> No.28001500

>>28001307
This is also assuming a couple things: She had the standard rate of 50% after YT's cut (I think she renegotiated at some point) and that her final month got the same standard rate (I recall there being rrats of Cover not taking their cut for the last month).
If any of those are true then she lost even more money than what I posted.

>> No.28001512

>>28001485
Not a graduation.

>> No.28001517

>>28001485
Rushia was fired. She didn't graduate.

>> No.28001529

>Pekomari split pov
King and kneel bros, ikz

>> No.28001571

>>28001485
the legendary backstabbing menhera....

>> No.28001579

>>28001383
It took graduation for Sana to finally get her first EN Gold. However, with Sana's gold that means every member of HoloEN has earned at least 1 EN Gold. There are still plenty of NijiEN members who have not earned a gold yet.

>> No.28001612

>>28001233
she sounded content with the decision to me, i think she's happy with the directoin her life is taking apart from her back hort.

>> No.28001629

>>28001071
There is a reason that payment from vshojo was tempting enough. Her vod revenue must have tanked too.

>> No.28001671

>>28001233
i appreciated this shitpost

>> No.28001705

>>27998406
So that's why Towa has a lot of female fans...

>> No.28001745

>>27999432
please, whenever anyone wants to post a graph, post the ID from the video so WE can look and ARCHIVE that shit
imagine having to dumpster dive to find this

>> No.28001785

>>28001629
If they didn't give her a fat paycheck to give their new branch some credibility, then she's an idiot.

>> No.28001793

>>27998765
Bingo Bongo!

>> No.28001808

>>28001144
after that inventory exploit was found, this seems like a way worse deal than splitting merch and scs even though everyone thought that it was super generous

>> No.28001815

Sana didn't even make it to Council's anniversary. Not even a year. That is wild.

>> No.28001968

>>28001815
Recruiting has to make better decisions next time

>> No.28002091

>>28001785
Kson said Vshojo take a cut only from merch?

>> No.28002092

Did I hear Sana say that her last stream would be the 21st and then her graduation stream would be the 31st? Something about it had to be that way? What possible reason could there be for a 10 day gap

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>now enshart start giving her the subs
fuck off, you don't care about her you fuck

>> No.28002116

>>28001808
It seems like a better deal up front but once you get to a certain level of popularity then it becomes a horrible deal.
Imagine if Pekora got all the SC revenue with no Cover cut but Cover got to keep her 1.1 million in merch sales, and I bet you that if Cover got to keep all that money, they'd pump out a lot more merch instead of only doing it twice a year.

>> No.28002147

>>28002111
Classic clipwatcher behaviour lol.

>> No.28002159

>>28001785
Sometimes Freedom Talent is priceless.

>> No.28002203

>>28002092
She won't be streaming during her last week for "complicated reasons" or something.
I'm just assuming she has a tight deadline on her other job or something.

>> No.28002233

>>27998792
Anime and vtubing has massive crossover
Naruto and DBZ were some of the biggest franchises out there

>> No.28002329

>>28001808
Not always. It totally depends on how much they make from SC and from merch.

>> No.28002393

>>28001968
how could they have known

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>>28002111
>subs increase when graduation is announced
wow what a surprise, never seen something like that

>> No.28002488

>>28002111
Reddit and ironicfags

>> No.28002489

>>28002393
Require applicants to film themselves running a 15km marathon while talking constantly next time. At least make sure they are physically healthy and fit for the job

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>This version won't make an appearance again
No...my shota....

>> No.28002535

>>28002393
Someone with an entire other extremely time-intensive career that they aren't willing to give up is probably a red flag. Of course, the scouts could be forgiven for not realizing that because that describes Ina and it worked out that time.
I think we won't be seeing more gacha artists in the future, at least not ones with active ongoing contracts. But I could be wrong.

>> No.28002551

>>28002393
Artist that didn't want to draw should've been a massive red flag

>> No.28002805

>>28001818
>>28001818
>>28001818
RRATS?

>> No.28002830
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>> No.28002882

>>28002805
It's the other way around.

>> No.28002914

>>28002805
StarsEN

>> No.28003022

Is Irys EP any good? Any bangers? Irystocrats need not reply.

>> No.28003037

>>28001307
She likely doesn't earn more money as indies (the lack of successful merch was a big minus). However, it's true that if you only count her revenue from SC post-cut, she didn't drop as much (since instead of only getting 35% of SC amount, she is getting 70%) - only around 10k$ or so per month. In fact, two of her best months as Kson within last 6 months (Jan + Feb 2022) can beat her worst month as Coco (May 2021) in that SC list >>28001307

>> No.28003044

>>28002805
EN4

>> No.28003099

A question, numbergods. Why does the catalog keep calling council a failure when most of their streamers mog myth in numbers?

>> No.28003115

>>28003022
I like BERSERKER and 哀の十界

>> No.28003120

>>28003022
I loved it. Probably her most complete EP to date although I also thought Journey was really good too.

>> No.28003169

Pekomarine being split pov almost assuredly gold for Kuzuha Koshien. But off chance Kuzuha slips again, don't you think the shitpost will be much worse than the time when he slipped gold to fucking Mel?

>> No.28003173

>>28003099
they are nijiniggers

>> No.28003177
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IRyS' EP update.

>> No.28003179

Is Sana the first ever Hololive graduation/termination since Hitomi Chris to not get a sticky?

>> No.28003203

>>28003022
It's a really good EP. But man, that just got me thinking. IRyS really is cursed. She had an awesome anniversary stream where she poured her heart out to us and even announced a new EP. Now all of that is going to be completely overshadowed by Sana's graduation. Poor IRyS.

>> No.28003206

>>28002551
doubt she told them she wouldn't do any drawing when she was auditioning
>>28002535
ina is a pretty insane talent and they probably got greedy thinking they could replicate her

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>>28003099

>> No.28003278

>>28003022
I like Basaka and Enjoy
>>28003099
Stop shitposting, anon. My oshi is Moom and I wouldn't say "most of their streamers mog myth in numbers" because it's just factually incorrect. Gura and Ina's numbers are clearly higher than even Kronii and Mumei, and Mori's music numbers mog all HoloEN but Gura

>> No.28003292

>>28003022
At least listen to BERSERKER just because it's named BERSERKER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eKxcDWuE0g

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>>28003203
How unfortunate.

>> No.28003309

>>28003099
Eternally seething nijinigs

>> No.28003324

>>28003177
>It ranks super high in the asian countries despite being an "EN" vtuber
LuxiemRyS...

>> No.28003336

>>28003203
Sana made it up for her with Bloom & Gloom

>> No.28003355

>>28003292
>Japanese
No thanks

>> No.28003383

>>28003169
Purease anon. Give the king his glory. There's no way him being constantly low ccv in the last months will affect an event stream now.

>> No.28003412

>>28003177
It gave a nice boost to One Step at a Time

>> No.28003422

What if Sana's rm becomes a Hololive mama?
Would that be the perfect ending?

>> No.28003434

>>28003271
Dang I thought people are just shitposting. People actually form discord groups and spread nonsense thinking it will change public perception? Lol

>> No.28003494

>>28003177
Hololive really is Taiwan's national religion

>> No.28003493

>>28003324
The western countries would just listen on Spotify or Youtube Music. That rank is only for purchased EP.

>> No.28003506

>>28003022
it's good

>> No.28003517

>>27998273
As others pointed out the letter that was publicly addressing the graduation states Sana was the one who made the decision so salty indies would only out themselves of having not read it or being just plain illiterate. Keep in mind also even if what you said is the case Cover would genuinely be justified to let Sana go because she wasn't even present for half the time she was in Hololive.

>> No.28003518

>>28003292
Somewhat related, I've noticed that cover.lnk.to have stopped showing the YT music option
For ex, https://cover.lnk.to/QuarterBravery only shows spotify and amzn music
Yet it clearly existed for a while on YT music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n1nZSlp9lclcA9tgY7i6IjHKEi5GnEc4Q
It's not just IRyS - same thing applies to Aki's Rose of the Lamp and AZKi's afterglow and no doubt others

>> No.28003531

>>28001383
Vox might hit his million subs this month, which could win it depending on what he does and what he's going up against.

>> No.28003536

>>28003099
Unironically Niji Fans and 2views. Remember Fulgar and Finana shitting on council?

>> No.28003569

>>28003422
>Sana is IRyS' new mama
All of a sudden everything is starting to make sense. The sudden graduation. The connection to Pako.....oh my god.

>> No.28003573

>>28001383
So a normal month when EN streams full time, got it.

>> No.28003694

>>28003517
Somehow Cover keeps winning despite having to graduate someone
Meanwhile Anykara...

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>>28003518
Anon?

>> No.28003712

>>28003531
HOLOFAGS JUST KEEP LOSING

>> No.28003755

>>28001612
>>28001233
>it didn't work out
Despite having family issues and back hort problems, it wasn't a good excuse to not stream 3 times a week. It's 3 times a week for fuck sake. Buy a standing table, or play a game while laying down on your bed. Some HoloJPs went through so much shit, yet they were able to stream while sana can't use any of those 144 hours in a week to stream. Even Ina had much on her plate for her. It was really a wasted spot on her, someone much more determined could've been in her spot.

>> No.28003777

>>28003581
> Phase has them beat and it's clear as day that Kson has just fallen off and no one watches her anymore.
I didn't pay attention to Phase. Is it powerful enough to beat Vshojo JP?

>> No.28003828

>>28003517
Aside from the holo defenders and the good words of Sana, We all know that she always, since the beginning, has creation differences with the company, she is really creative and being restricted was too much for her, that's why she streams in her other channel more and more. And how she mentions the cover statement as "vague".
Whatever it is, is the few holo members that i like, so i going to follow her anyway. Sadly this is the 3rd graduation of one of my favorite vtuber, first Coco, later Umi and now Sana, I'm fucking cursed.
don't believe cover statement, is just to look good.
people who lack critical information everywhere.

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>>28003711
Some weird region thing probably. This is what I get now even though I used to have more options yesterday

>> No.28003921

Did you retards just use creative freedom as excuse again?

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https://twitter.com/hololive_music/status/1546736110772125698
I kneel

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> - Sana
> + Irys
balance in all things

>> No.28004047

>>28003940
The new EP release also helped Journey incline. IRyS is inclining!!!!

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>> No.28004095

>>28003940
https://mora.jp/topics/news/animesong_ranking2022_summer/
ISRAEL
Jesas Suisei is too strong, her album was released last year and it still can rank in 2022.

>> No.28004094

>>28004071
>last a year
No...

>> No.28004110

>>28003828
>We all know that she always, since the beginning, has creation differences with the company
I know you are trying your best to push a narrative right now, but what exactly are her "creative differences" with Cover?

>> No.28004114

>>28004071
well that sucks

>> No.28004170

>>27984433
Real Previous
>>27980737
>>27980737
>>27980737

>> No.28004172

>>28004071
>last a year
oh...

>> No.28004216

>>28004110
she couldn't stream her dead dog's funeral
would've been kino

>> No.28004240

>>28004110
we alreayd know a lot of her ideas were shot down by management like her kuso ge streams

>> No.28004253

>>28004216
Making fun of someone's dead pet is distasteful

>> No.28004264

>>28003422
Honestly I think that would be neat. Maybe he commissioned to design Council alt outfits maybe?

>> No.28004270

>>28003828
>that's why she streams in her other channel more and more
Post numbers pls

>> No.28004284

>>28003828
>that's why she streams in her other channel more and more
Streamed twice on a new YT account for a genshit promotion
Try better bait next time

>> No.28004311

>>28004110
Couldn't stream chink gacha game, that's why she was so creative in her rm

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so with Sana killing the rest of the months mood im guessing EN3 isnt this month?

>> No.28004349

>>28004110
Play Genshin Impact, the highest revenue gacha mobage right now

>> No.28004364

>>28002111
kaelabros, the system rigged our race

>> No.28004400

>>28004110
She couldn't stream Genshin, what a black company.

>> No.28004411

>>28003828
I mean no matter what something was going wrong on Sana's end. Theirs no getting around the fact that she was gone half the time and wasn't even present for multiple collabs and all of the off-collabs.

>> No.28004412

>>28003848
Yeah that's what I see
Susan wtf

>> No.28004418

>>28004334
Nah, but something has probably been pushed forwards to be announced after her graduation.

>> No.28004459

>>28003828
>people who lack critical information everywhere.
Do you mean people who lack voices inside their heads?

>> No.28004461

>>28002393
did she have prior streaming experience?
even if you buy that she wasnt entirely an ina recommendation (they didnt hire mori's friend) it really does feel like they just looked at her and figured that ina worked out and tried it again without much thought

>> No.28004490

>>28004095
Didn't Kuzuha also release an album this year with higher physical sales on Oricon?

>> No.28004498

>>28004216
That would actually be Kino.

>> No.28004518

>>28004461
I guess they think having 1 artist in a gen will fill the niche

>> No.28004528

>>28004240
>like her kuso ge streams
That retarded idea if hers of
>choosing a bad game on purpose with the express purpose of shitting in it on stream
?

That would do wonders to strengthen the ties between Hololive and game companies, kek
>hey Capcom, what about permission to play X?
>for your streamers shit on it on stream? kek, no!

>> No.28004557

Will Sana's graduation surpass Coco's?
Will Pekora's 3D anniv surpass Coco's and Sana's graduations?

>> No.28004558

>>28004490
You mean the one that had lottery shit?

>> No.28004566

>>28004490
Yes. That ranking is for digital. Most if not all Kuzuha's album sales were physical because it came with a gacha.

>> No.28004575

>>28004557
Yes
No

>> No.28004576

>>28004334
Next month is really heavy with all anniversaries and birthdays, so EN3 or HomoEN probably coming around late September or October. October schedule is pretty light with only Mel birthday as big event and that's on 31th

>> No.28004584

>>28004461
no, she's a successful artist but she did not stream prior to holo

>> No.28004588

>>28004557
no

>> No.28004606

>>28004071
Does the holoscope get a decent number?
Will playing kuso game get her a decent number?
I guess she doesn't plan to do drawing stream from the start huh? I'm guessing drawing is one of the reason Cover accepted her.

>> No.28004611

>>28004557
dude it wont even pass 40k and it will most likely get overlapped

>> No.28004642

I guess Sana will at least get her one and only gold, even if it's a literal pitygold

>> No.28004648

>>28004216
Yeah Reimu should have streamed her dog's death.

>> No.28004657

>>28004611
Sana's graduation or Peko's 3D?

>> No.28004676

>>28004557
>Pass coc-
Shut up you retarded shitposter
>Pekora pass Coco
No you idiot, 400k is too much
>Beat Sana
Definitely. Sana hasn't done nearly enough work in Hololive to earn herself thr 100k+ it'd take to beat Pekora.

>> No.28004713

>>28004518
>"Let's hire an artist for every gen."
>Hires artist that doesnt want to do art streams
brilliant move

>> No.28004781

>>28002393
There are shit tons of Global talents/content creator that have consistency and speak fluent english both in EU, latin, and NA with a deep understanding, passion, and respect on JP pop culture. You'll find them with a little bit of search on YT or twitter. The ENscouts are just lazy to find them

>> No.28004798

>>28004676
Peko's 3D can get 100k? Then can it beat Koshien's 160k?

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Is this a raid too?

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>>28003434

>> No.28004898

>>28004798
depends if the 3d live have bikinis

>> No.28004900

>>28003169
Probably not because it's not that surprising for Pekora to break the prediction as she has done that many times before.

Mel however is a small name in Hololive and literally everyone wasn't expecting her to get the gold that day despite having a 3D concert. And the fact both her and Kuzuha are vapire-themed Vtubers makes her win more iconic.

>> No.28004904

>>28003777
I'm not sure how the comparison even makes sense, Phase and vwhoresJP are not really competitors
I do think Phase is really the only one of the western smallcorpos with any potential, they have a good philosophy where they clearly want to emulate hololive hiring standards with some flexibility given the western market without completely opening the door to vwhorejo types, my only complaint is their gens are too big but I guess thats planning for graduations/duds which is probably a fair assumption for their size
vwhoreJP is just kson + rushia, im sure theyll add some other japanese streamers at some point but what does that have to do with a mostly EN company? the vwhoreEN branch hasnt even added anyone

>> No.28004948

>>28004071
>Last a year
Terminal rrat is true.

>> No.28004965

>>28004898
No lewd please. I am still recovering from Chloe's 3D.

>> No.28004993

>>28004781
on paper sana probably looked just like what you described

>> No.28004999

>>28004965
I still jerk off to it daily

>> No.28005013

>>28004606
WTF is holoscope even about? Just the normal Zatsudan with fancy name?

>> No.28005025

>>28004877
success really do breed jealousy, but i've been to # enough times to spot an obvious shitpost and not take the bait. Don't know about fans outside of /here/ though.

>> No.28005027

>>28004904
thx for sharing your insight

>> No.28005031

>>28004802
I'm almost certain that's a raid from Uki, since he ended right as the spike started.
>>28004798
160k for Pekora would be....
It's not impossible given the guest lineup looks solid enough, and the potential for other annoucements is a draw, but summer party makes me think it's going to be a variety stream instead of a Live, so who knows?

>> No.28005058

>>28004584
yeah so that was obviously a terrible idea, ina did streams in her past life
compare her to the other EN that got model fucked (and is management fucked) in irys, even the initiative to *try* to stream for an application shows a drive that they absolutely should be targeting for EN hires going forward given how little most of their members give a shit

>> No.28005088

They should find streamers that can speak Spanish or Portuguese(BR) on top of English.

>> No.28005091

>>28004798
>Peko's 3D can get 100k?
Would be a hard underperformance if it didn’t
>Then can it beat Koshien's 160k?
Not that it’s impossible, she beatbthsg number before, but the highest numbers for a 3D live by Holos is 147337 fir Suisei’s magnificent birthday this year

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>>28005088
no

>> No.28005160

Pekomiko rape ASMR stream
300k guaranteed

>> No.28005186

>>28005013
She essentially had a lighthearted discussion about horoscopes and talked about bread, it was kinda nice and comfy but really niche

>> No.28005233

HoloEN's first army is only Gura, and she doesn't stream all that much. EN 3 needs to have a first army tier.

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>>28005088

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>> No.28005272

>>28005058
I'm convinced that EN recruiting team are all JP tards that got lucky with myth and tried to repeat it with council without understanding why myth was so successful
"Oh, Ina worked well because she's a well-known weeb artist that can speak some nipponese. I know! Let's hire another one! Better if she's in a timezone closer to JP!"

>> No.28005289

>>28005186
Could have explicitly made it like Mio’s tarot ready, announcing beforehand to read the horoscope for the girls with the star signs of that month, and then done EXACTLY the same thing she did with the exception of a small segment in the end doing the readings for Holos and it would be a smash hit.

>> No.28005367

>>28004965
>Literally titles her anniversary stream "summer party" in the time where holosummer would be demanded the most.

Either its fucking happening or Pekora is just clickbaiting everyone since she knows this is what people wanted.

>> No.28005370

>>28005289
I can see that working, but i believe she stopped doing it because of a few shitters being obnoxious atheists about it even if she made it clear that it wasn't supposed to be taken seriously.

>> No.28005382

>>28004798
The target to beat is Suisei's live that she overlapped so 147k.

>> No.28005383

I am pretty convinced that for JP branch, one of the hiring requirement is being a menhera. They should find menheras for EN branch too and see how it goes.

>> No.28005447

>>28005383
Kiara...Kronii...

>> No.28005449

>>28005382
>Suisei's live that she overlapped
Wait Pekora hates Suisei???

>> No.28005546

>>28005272
no its the opposite problem, they outsourced the hiring to EN management with EN2
COVER is a pretty incompetent company but the one thing they have always done well is talent scouting, granted most of that was just taking references from NND, but even with EN1 the JP side made the finals calls and you can tell they knew what they were doing when you look at the rejects in nijiCN

>> No.28005636

>>28005383
Kiara…
Kronii…
Mori…
Mumei…
IRyS…

>> No.28005649

>>28005370
If that’s true she’s dumb as fuck for giving anyone the time of the day for that.
I doubt tho, at least from the start it looked more like her stream would be a “guided zatsu” with horoscope as a background.
What I’m suggesting is making at least part of it a deliberate tie in between whatever sign she’s talking about the the holo girls
>this month sign is Leo
>the holos with a bday in this sign are X, Y and Z
>Leos are known for being strong and passionate, wow, that really fit in with X, doesn’t it?
>this month newspaper Leo prediction is: “watch out for unforeseen events, they can be dealt beforehand”
>don’t forget to catch in with X bday stream, on the 11th, on her channel

Streamer X, Y and Z would be at her thumb, along with the symbol for the star sign and some click bait related to the fortune, like a bag of money with wings flying out.
It’s not hard to make this work, but she didn’t because, IMO, she didn’t really had a plan

>> No.28005683

>>28005437
>>28005437
>>28005437

>> No.28005801

>>28001500
>she lost even more money than what I posted.
Greedy dumb bitch
Well at least she has creative freedom

>> No.28005838
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28005838

>imagine being a newfag and making a thread while trying to reply to this one

>> No.28005873

>>28005233
EN needs five stream monsters. One Kaela, Watame or Koyori level. They can go back to finding 'ultra-special-multi-talent-supergirls' with EN4, but man, do they need a workhorse gen to balance out the branch

>> No.28005913

>>28005546
Uh, considering omega claimed he was responsible for myth (or rather, that he was there from the very start), I think it's the same team of JP idiots that hired myth and council

>> No.28005959
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Damn I just watched the stream, she speedran the whole thing, went through it like a written list.
And she was laughing the whole time (probably out of nervousness).
She had apparently thought about doing this since long ago, but fans kept her going. So might not completely have been contract related, but perhaps that was a nudge.

She wanted to keep going, and was not entirely satisfied with this conclusion, so definitely seems like her back injury was the cause (because obviously Cover wouldn't want her to be "unsatisfied" when announcing this to avoid rrats).
iirc back when she revealed the back issue she had some complex about it as well, as if revealing it would be seen as an 'excuse', which is why she delayed it so much.
I can guess that the actual issue may have been a mix of a new contract + her back making it - and streaming in general - infeasible. But she wanted them to keep it out of the PR statement so that it wouldn't feel like she was 'using it as an excuse' to quit.
I've been in that mental state before so I can relate.
Also half the chat were greyniggers begging her to stay kek

>> No.28005981

>>28005447
>>28005636
Kiara is just someone who is bad at social cue, not exactly a menhera. Complaining a lot (in front of the audience instead of tweeting and deleting) is not a trait of menhera.

>> No.28006016

>>28005233
Anon, Gura is Salome + Pekora for the EN market, she's literally x2 bigger than the second biggest chuuba in any metric
They need non-low tier members willing to stream a decent amount of hours (and during different time zones)

>> No.28006068

>>28005959
>spoiler
Despite the retardation, i kinda admire the one day members that stuck it out despite all the bullshit from her.

>> No.28006081

>>27998406
7% gang ww@

>> No.28006121

>>28006016
Gura is not x2 bigger than mori in music and SC..

>> No.28006144

>>28006068
1st day member here
Never liked Sana and often shitposted about her here, but still membered out of holo EN solidarity (yes I'm membered to all EN)

>> No.28006145

>>28005873
Those are all small time. They should take lessons from Aruran, one of these days he's going to go live with two streams at the same time.

>> No.28006223

>>28006145
Speaking of males. ENStars must outperform the women in streaming hours. It would be unacceptable if the couldn't

>> No.28006225

>>28005959
The only way to fix back pain is be like Dr House popping pills all day every day. I don't envy people who do that but that is a way to go through your life. Another way is of course operation but seems like all the spine (ortho) surgeon dislike the idea of operating for back pain.

>> No.28006239

>>28001233
How did you forget Aloe?

>> No.28006272

>>28006239
He rightfully didn't consider her a proper hololive chuuba.

>> No.28006320

>>28005913
>same team of JP idiots that hired myth and council
I sincerely doubt, their debut approach was completely different from anything Cover ever did or would do again
Except for hope and council every debut was announced more or less like this
>new gen announcement, here are the designs, debut on date X and Y, here are their channels and twitter handles

Then came IRyS debut. The announcement was more or less like this, except they made it a point of calling it a “VSinger” debut and completely demarcate her from the other girls, giving the impression from the start that she wouldn’t even stream and would be more like EN-AZKi.
Then came council. Three cryptic chuuni ass lore videos split by a huge gap in time to culminate at a debut that had lost the hype in the second video already.
>yeah, yeah, give us the girls already! Stop edging!

JP returned to form with HoloX debut
>new gen this week! First girl debuts in a few hours, be there or be square
I doubt the team doing HoloX debut and the team doing Council debut are the same

>> No.28006334

>>28006144
based arschad

>> No.28006366

kobo-chan..1M celebration stream doko?

>> No.28006384

Who here applied?

>> No.28006425

i was going to say they should just hire some twitch thot as long as she keeps a full schedule but i actually cant think of any women twitch streamers who do full day streams that arent all react bullshit or IRL/hot tub whoring

>> No.28006445

>>28006366
Studio still not finished

>> No.28006453
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28006453

You can definitely feel there is a new batch of jannies.
I got banned on all boards for posting a pic of Fulgur with the text:
>Sanallites in shambles. Thank me Shu.

>> No.28006506

>>28005913
im pretty sure loserbait was still working for niji at that time

>> No.28006536

>>28006320
What are your thoughts on how they handled ID3? Do you think its even the same team?

>> No.28006552

HoloEN has a graduation while NijiEN has none despite the large number. It makes me think that the whole family meme has a bit of ground since most NijiEN members actually support each other due to the underdog nature. I do think that this HoloEN graduation will cause some fans to jump ship to NijiEN.

>> No.28006563

>>28006425
They can hire Forsen and I would 100% watch him pretending to be anime girl.

That said twitch thots generally don't have the appeal as a vtuber. The only one I can think of is hafu but she barely talks while streaming and I don't she is interesting in pretending to be an anime girl.

>> No.28006620

>>28006536
Same team as HoloX or, at least, as ID2.

The only flaw was not clearing the slot for the debuts, but given that it is not a tradition to do so cross branch it was a minor flaw of execution.

>> No.28006623

>>28006552
Rrat peddling about family doesn't really work when everyone knows it's because "back hort"

>> No.28006627

>>28006445
ID is building a studio?

>> No.28006632

If only Kay Yu had made a game for NijiEN instead, his roster would have been complete and not missing one person.
Hopefully he realizes it and quits developing HoloCure.

>> No.28006644

>>28006552
>NijiEN after meeting
>"I love my family"

>HoloEN after meeting
>graduation

>> No.28006674

>>28006632
There are talks for a VtuberCure.

>> No.28006707

>>28006627
Studio for streaming with soundproof in her home. Right now she can't stream at night because she's loud and getting complain from neighbor.

>> No.28006713

>>28006453
probably that wojak fulgur pic
jannies hates it for some reason

>> No.28006775

>>28006552
most of niji en are still new lol

>> No.28006776

>>28006632
Beg moar bitch

>> No.28006793
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28006793

>>28006713
no it was his normal portrait

>> No.28006794

>>28006453
>>28006713
they're called meidos around these parts, /v/ermin

>> No.28006809

>>28006563
unironically i was going to mention hafu as the only example i could think of but shes too big/established and everyone knows about her boyfriend, even as a myth hire she wouldnt have made sense
im sure there are some league 2views they could get but youd have to pay them to quit and then its still a diceroll that they could stream other games

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28006814

>>28006674
Of course there are
>nijibeggars count as “talks”

>> No.28006825

>>28006239
Aloe...
I watch La+ now and pretend she is Aloe because Delta herself barely streams.

>> No.28006824

>>28006793
yeah, for some reason jannies keep giving warning everytime it involves him

>> No.28006853

>>28006632
nah he wont.. he may die for making 200 members of niji lol

>> No.28006854
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28006854

Pre-primetime /news/ update for 12-07-2022 (all times are in JST)
> NijiEN girls appearing as guests at Otakuthon 2022 in Montreal, Canada (https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1546585118231388169).).
> Tsukumo Sana announces her graduation from Hololive EN, final stream on July 31st (https://youtu.be/UbqJ7JObVBM, https://cover-corp.com/news/detail/20220712b/).). Channel and Videos will likely stay up, except 'Members Only' content, which will only stay up till Oct 31st.
> Two Hololive albums rank Top 10 in Mora 2022 half-yearly Anisong ranking. Suisei's "Still Still Stellar" (#5) and Irys' "Journey" (#8) (https://twitter.com/hololive_music/status/1546736110772125698).).

Previous : >>27943393
other /news/ may have been drowned out, so if I missed anything else, please anchor it here.

>> No.28006876

>>28006794
I don't fucking care retard
Jannies
Meidos
they all fucking did it for free

>> No.28006884

kobo 11k get

>> No.28006894

>>28006809
>shes too big/established and everyone knows about her boyfriend
People don't care about boyfriends for EN though? Just look at Mumei and Sana.

>> No.28006909

>>28006453
A janny with long nail I bet.

>> No.28006908

>>28006320
I see it differently
Myth was the first gen that had a (somewhat) cohesive lore
When they saw how successful myth was, omega decided to double down on the lore for IRyS and council
(Yes, they went chuuni for IRyS too - remember that #CountdownWitnesser crap?)
Unfortunately, council debuted right when YT started up their sub bot spam protection, which put a big dent in their sub count
That combined with council being significantly less successful than myth resulted in Cover leaning less heavily on long ass lore campaigns for holox

>> No.28006935

>>28006876
I wanna do it for free too...

>> No.28006956

>>28006935
why didn't you apply then

>> No.28006981

new median council(4) + irys

> = 10,004

>> No.28006986
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based holoEN, catching the funnel

>> No.28007004

>>28006552
Hololive can actually survive a graduation anon.

>> No.28007010

>>28006453
>this post is extremely low quality

>> No.28007047

>>28006981

WTF

>> No.28007060

>>28006908
There is really no reason to invest in lore because it will break down quickly. Even Salome can't hold it on now. Marine herself suddenly age 13 years from her lore too.

>> No.28007078

>>28006825
Don't worry she will stream more when she joins Vshojo.

>> No.28007088

>>28006854
not really new, just been meaning to correct something. Haru from enogu is not graduating until the end of the year per their statement. all current planned activities will continue until then. she will convert to staff post graduation. cited reason is family related and will not go into details.

>> No.28007103

>>28007004
Any company other than upd8 doesn't survive a graduation? I think even upd8 survives today.

>> No.28007152

>>28007078
Thank god she block anyone mentioning vwhorejo.

>> No.28007163

>>28007103
Upd8 died though... and it even wasn't graduation related.

>> No.28007179

>>28006981

Council > Myth

>> No.28007249

>>28007163
Oh ya forgot about that. That is why Polka (PL) died before Kizuna Ai.

>> No.28007259

Kobo has a 10k floor now, her floor is much more firm than Luxiem's wooden floor

>> No.28007262

>>28006981

retarded just holocure buff

>> No.28007274

>>28006908
>had a (somewhat) cohesive lore
kek
>a shark girl from Atlantis
>a phoenix
>a reaper
>a vessel for Cthulhu
>a detective

There is nothing coesive about that to the point many of them essentially retconned their lores on day one
>Kiara turned into a chicken
>Ina became a regular girl whose book is the vessel
>Ame became a *british* time traveling detective and drug peddler

They clearly had only a motif and not a set in stone lore like Council and “embodiment of the concept of time”.

>> No.28007324

>>28007259
Luxiem is EN, you can't compare them.

>> No.28007344

>>28007324
>NIJICOEP

>> No.28007364

>>28006981

Luxiem 4K

Kek

>> No.28007374

>>28007259
That would be a better point if 3 of her previous 4 streams hadn't failed to reach 10k.

>> No.28007379

>>28007259
Probably will have her number change after her studio done. She can increase her Karaoke stream and be louder which is what her audience want.

>> No.28007412

>>28007324
That makes it worse lol

>> No.28007428
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28007428

Sorry Risu, 700k is for grownups

>> No.28007433

>>28005636
>mentioning all those with the solid number
Case in point. I guess time for EN scouts to search for menhera.

>> No.28007452

>>28006854
Key, Otakuthon is the largest convention in Canada with around 200k visitors. It was good that NijiEN skipped AX since it was a shit show.

>> No.28007464

Yes you can be cool, but you can't be "swinging ARs, AKs and revolvers like fucking glowsticks cause Kobo got 1m subs cool"
https://streamable.com/hukpo4

>> No.28007471

>>28007324
EN is supposedly to be bigger than ID speakers since most of the world are using English. Why can't they get a firm grasp on the 10k floor without relying on gimmicks?

>>28007374
>nitpicking 4 streams
only 3 out of 15 of her recent streams got below 10k, and most aren't even gimmicks

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>>28007452
>It was good that NijiEN skipped AX

>> No.28007508
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28007508

This power gap is ridiculous

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28007517

>>28007428
Post it again when she doesn't get 1k increase in a day.

>> No.28007551

>>28007088
Oh that's interesting. There was only that one post about her and not much discussion, so thanks for the correction, I'll add it in the final report.
Do you have a link to her statement? Twitter or Youtube?

>> No.28007556

>>28007471
It's not nitpicking, those are her most recent streams. It's just unfortunate timing to declare a floor right after that.

>> No.28007557

>>28007508
>Reine 3k
Good for her

>> No.28007570

>>28007274
Anon...four of them are related to mythology (hence "holomyth") and the 5th is Holmes-inspired character researching said myths. That's far more cohesive than any previous gen

>> No.28007601

>>28007103
He was comparing Hololive with Nijisanji.
NijiEN have had a series of yabs ever since Luxiem debuted, and they collab so much with each other that their fanbase is an amorphous blob just switching between channels.
Their branch will not survive even one of them graduating.

>> No.28007618

>>28007508
All of them should stream in ID instead of trying to be softEN.

Also Kobo can speak Chinese, probably has something to do with it.

>> No.28007629

>>28007324
Are you implying that ID >>> EN? Jesus...

>> No.28007639

>>28007471
Yeah well 'floor' means the lowest she can go. If she had a few streams that didn't reach 10k that means saying it's her floor is being disingenuous.

>> No.28007667

>>28007601
And none of them will, unlike the HoloEN which is falling apart.

>> No.28007708

>>27998273
>niji with graduation every month

u sure you are not talking about nijis instead?

>> No.28007718

>>28007471
None of them stream consistently enough for that to happen

>> No.28007719

>>28007464
wtf is she mainstream in SEA now?

>> No.28007750

>>28007629
Anon is just trying to reset the timeloop

>> No.28007769

>>28006824
>warning
i was banned on all boards lmao

>> No.28007782

>>28007551
it's in the announcement video description
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHrOarQIt0o
and on twitter https://twitter.com/rbc_geino/status/1546041561280290817

>> No.28007784

>>28007601
Isn't that a nijibox like holobox? Don't think they will fall apart that easily.

>> No.28007805

>>28007010
oh yeah
then why isnt all the schizo posting deleted?

>> No.28007822

>>28007784
>like holobox
Bruh, that's not how holobox work.

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>hololive clips
>hololive streams
>salome shorts
how does youtube recomendation work again? I only use this account to watch Hololive streams and clips
I never get recommended another Niji or other company stream/clip/short before. Maybe some small vtuber sometimes show up as ads.

>> No.28007868

I really want to talk shit about Gen 1 but now that Sana is going away... I don't think I even want to be on this board

>> No.28007885

>>28007851
>ads

>> No.28007905

>>28007851
>I never get recommended another Niji
I envy you, but the reason you will get Salome is probably because she has by distancing herself from Nijisanji accidentally entered the hololive sphere

>> No.28007940

>>28006453
im looking up bans on 4bans and everyone there deserved it
although i enjoyed your fulgur thread, i even posted in it myself. think they're just on edge after all the sana shitposting, they've been deleting threads all day

>> No.28007954

>>28007868
Pretending to be a schizo is bad juju

>> No.28007961

>>28007851
Because apparently lots of Salami tourists mistake her as being a Holomem. If enough of them watches her clips/shorts and then go watch Hololive ones, then the algorithm will start recommending her clips to Hololive watchers as well.

>> No.28008032

lofi numberfagging
https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1546748719688605697

>> No.28008064

>>28007324
What the fuck, never would've thought half a year ago that someone would say something like this, acknowledging that ID > EN

>> No.28008103
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28008103

>>28007905
Heh

>> No.28008119

>>28005245
>fauna dead last out of all holoEN members with a grand average of 7089 ccv
>>27994005
>>27994092
>>27994118
>>27994127
>>27994173
>>27994482
>>27994276
>>27994280
>>27994908
I was fucking right and the data actually backs me up. Become compost.

>> No.28008143

>>28007961
Kek might as well start calling her an honorary Holo at this rate.

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28008164

>>28008032
Maybe it’s because I’m ESL but this sounded somewhat … sarcastic?
>”great work” ioforia

>> No.28008221

>>28008164
Now this is a reach

>> No.28008228

>>28007601
No one would care if anyone of them graduated
case in point no one giving a shit when Reimu almost killed herself after the Vox yab

>> No.28008230

>>28008164
It's just the general ESLness of indogs

>> No.28008300

>>28008164
I don't think she mean to be sarcastic. If she wants to be sarcastic, here is how she can do it
>It took us ONLY 7 months to reach a new milstone! Great work ioforia :)

>> No.28008322

>>28007961
>apparently lots of Salami tourists mistake her as being a Holomem
I don't think a few posts from matome and that Salome fanart with the hololive tag is enough to say that. Anons here always mention this but I still fail to see any significant evidence of Salami tourists actually getting sucked into the Holobox.

>> No.28008331

the retarded schizo doesnt realize that the person he is hurting the most with this is himself

>> No.28008376

>>28004798
Would be a tough challenge IF the format is the same as other 3D live. But you almost make me laugh doubting Pekora 100k

>> No.28008393

>>27994612
kys bootlicker. most of that money goes directly into riku's pocket.

>> No.28008404

>>28008322
been meaning to do the unique chatter pre/post salome analysis but been busy with something else.

>> No.28008406

>>28007508
All Kobo needs to do is play some fucking buff games. Too bad she's not interested in MC

>> No.28008420

>>28003828
This read like an AI generated post

>> No.28008472

>>28008322
Didn't some of the holo streams yesterday got an upspike after Salome's stream ended?

>> No.28008487

>>28008406
Buff games for ID's blue cunny are not the same as everyone else. For fuck's sake, she got buffed playing Zuma of all things!

>> No.28008505

>>27998005
Easier to bundle her in events. No more +Hope shenanigans. Even if they don't give her the space lore/responsibilities they can always say they added a 6th chair (to respect Sana's) for IRyS and officially add her to council.

>> No.28008563

>>28008487
She should play fortnite. I think that is what's popular among the younger generation.

>> No.28008568

>>28008406
Minecraft is boring as shit and I have no idea how it's considered a buff game

>> No.28008580

>>28008487
Buff game for Indonesia or SEA in general is Mobile Legend.

>> No.28008591

>>28008568
It isn't for most Holo, only for a few selected one

>> No.28008603

>>28008406
Good, imagine if she met peko in MC. Her monkey fans will raid her stream and spam SEA jokes

>> No.28008628

>>28007556
>>28007639
It's not disingenuous, just look at the time of those streams. Any other time she would get an easy 10k, but those streams literally starts at midnight or at 2AM in her time. It's like if Vox streamed in burger hours, getting 2k instead of his usual CN numbers

>> No.28008647

>>28008580
Too bad Mobile Legend is Chinese based.

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28008650

How do we save them, lads?

>> No.28008657

>>28008603
>Hey Kobo
No, probably
>Hey Pekora
instead

>> No.28008673
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28008673

a lot of holoEN so far

>> No.28008692

>>28008650
more debuts.

>> No.28008723

>>28008647
bro, the pubg mobile sponsor?

>> No.28008730

>>28008603
Koboker vs Nousagi sound fun, even better if you throw in Chumbuds

>> No.28008736

>>28008650
Wait for Q1 financial statements.

>> No.28008744

You know, if Hololive ended up winning 10 golds this month, I'd honestly declare them the winner already because with all these niji buffs, they can't even win against a rabbit. It's like if Salome didn't exist for June, it would've gone 25-5 for Hololive.

>> No.28008773

>>28008628
Again, if she can get lower than 10k, then 10k isn't her floor, no two ways about it. I know she's got good numbers, but don't fucking try to change the definition of a term we've used for ages just because you want to prop her up.

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trending list

>> No.28008787

>>28008322
funny enough i noticed a dude tag his 4th or 5th salami drawing with the hololive tag. all the other before it only had niji

>> No.28008802

>>28008650
>>koshien buff.... not like this

>> No.28008814

>>28008119
>using average on 3 streams when one of them was an offcollab with 4 other people
you're retarded

>> No.28008829

>>28008119
Gee wonder why Bae’s avg is so high with only 3 streams. Stop coping anon Bae’s obviously the runt

>> No.28008845

>>28008487
Talking about zuma, it reminds me back when she got 7k viewers watching her. No one expect she would be 10k+ median streamers

>> No.28008846

>>28008723
>pubg mobile
>Tencent
One of the very, VERY few exceptions in bugland.

>> No.28008848

>>28008787
Wow, did you see if it had an increase in views or whatever measure an image uses?

>> No.28008851

>>28008723
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonton_Games

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Trending! 1M vod incoming?

>> No.28008895

>>28008779
Chainsaw Man is reclining . . .

>> No.28008949

>>28008848
800 more views and 500 more likes compared to his last artwork of her that has been up 3 days longer
not a massive increase and the new picture is spicier so it might come from that

>> No.28008957

>>28008845
Kek, I remember when /#/ was nuked because Kobo beat Vox at PvZ

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