/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Every day we have this thread... and the Kiara hate thread... and the "what's wrong with being an EOP" thread... and the "purityfags suck" thread... I'm tired...

Is it? Disliked sure, but controversial?

>>2781340
Someone please save Melody and Mouse...

>>2781340
because 3/7 of their designers are "girl with horns", 3/7 are just E-thots, and one is a e-prostitute.

>>2781340
because they're nasty whores

>>2781340
Prove that theyre controversial OP

>>2781373
Don’t forgot the “What went wrong?” Aloe threads

they arent its literally just this website bro lmao

They're just hated on 4chan because this site is full of yellow fevered incels. If they were exactly the same, but spoke Japanese, they would be beloved icons.

>>2781340
It’s just Nyanners.
If she wasnt in the group most anons probably wouldn’t give a shit.

>>2781340
In all this time it had never occurred to me to watch one of Melody's porn streams. To my surprise she has a lot of hours long content just freely available on pornhub. I never watched her stream, but if I did I wouldn't be able to look at her the same. It's very odd for a vtuber to be a straight up "pornstar".

>>2781340
lol sex poop lol boobs vagina cock lol

>>2781783
but when coco does it...

>>2781798
I don’t watch Coco. Some of us have standards.

>>2781340
One is a tranny and one is a complete hypocrite. Ironmouse seems nice enough, but the previously stated ones means I ain't touching that shit.

Plus one of them posted leftypol cringe

>>2781959
>Plus one of them posted leftypol cringe
Which one, Zentreya? Nyanners did more than one BLM charity event when America was in peak riot chaos mode. Completely laughable.

Speaking of western vtubers being hypocrites, Juniper is also one. She's like the Nyanners situation in reverse. Considers lolicon and whatnot the same as child pornography and straight up disgusting pedophilia but her model and theme is lifted from a fucking doujin that features the rape and mindbreak of a little boy (loli as well in later sequels) by the character that was basis of her fucking avatar, and she's admitted to have read them. What the fuck is up with that, huh?

>>2781340
Why do you ask this question every fucking day? You know full well why.

>see thread
>look archive
>latest hate thread was actually archived just now >>2754558

Easy free advertisement scheme unveiled, bravo OP

>>2781959
>One is a tranny
Oh no his avatar has boobs save me jeebus!
>one is a complete hypocrite
You know people can change over time? You can't just call someone a hypocrite because their views are different now than from five years ago. Well, you can but you're a retard.
>one of them posted leftypol cringe
cool buzzwords. the way "leftypol" is thrown around it could mean literally anything at all

>>2781772
Even more odd is to see some of the others like Ironmouse or Nyanners in the chat, surely it must be a bit weird for her to know her friends are sometimes watching her masterbate

>>2781631
If they were exactly the same and were japanese they would have never gotten popular because the japanese market is oversaturated

Latest compilation of everything this place blame them of from Veibae came out with Japanese subs and the JP comments there still find her cute, what gives?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDu80qpDELo

>>2782284
They aren't that popular to begin with. Weebcels would be calling them "hidden gems" if they were SEAs.

>>2782364
They're super popular compared to the average vtuber and even the average streamer, remember most people don't even get a hundred viewers

>>2781340
haha sex
haha penis
haha vagina
haha penis in vagina
haha penis in penis
haha boobies
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>2781340
Theyre not, theyre just retarded humanoids

>>2781631
>>2782284

>>2781862
>vtubers
>standards
pick one and only one

I made a comprehensive list of Vtubers I genuinely hate:

- Nyanners

I made a comprehensive list of good pink cats named Nyanners:

- Nyanners

>>2781340
Realistically, most people have a minor dislike of Vshojo due to their contrasting nature of what Hololive is. The main reason people don't like Vshojo are because of Vshojo's fans. Constant tribal warring and comparisons all for the sake and angering Hololive fans and calling them "holopedos" doesn't do good for you or the vtubers you watch, wouldn't you know it. Hololive fans, on the other hand, don't bring them at all until a Vshojo fan injects them into an unrelated thread.

>>2782994
Wait, you think all the bait is being posted by VSJ fans?

>>2782994
Hololive fans make everyone's life worse by virtue of existing. Half of the catalog right now are fetish threads made by them.

I made a comprehensive list of people who should kill themselves:

- Nyanners

>>2782595
haha boing boing
haha gorilla

we are the same

Why does people comment about the differences between hololive and vshoujo showing they clearly only watched clips?

>>2781340
You tell me

>>2781631
>They're just hated on 4chan
theyre not
take your meds

>>2781340
because they're leftist whores trying to muscle in on a community they're not welcome to

i love veibae and froot, i watch zen clips sometimes, and followed melody pre-twitch

i just hate nyanners because shes in it for the money and attention only, but i tolerate her in veis presence and shit like that

>>2784106
Vtubing isn't a "community". They created their own brand and started from the ground-up.
>leftist whores
Fuck off SEA-worhipping /v/ermin

>>2784164
they're in it for the grift and to ideologically poison vtubing so no one enjoys it anymore. Fuck off paid shill.

>they're in it for the grift and to ideologically poison vtubing so no one enjoys it anymore. Fuck off paid shill.

>>2781340

>>2784190
Take your fucking meds. VShojo was made entirely from scratch, they didn't muscle their way into anything. And people like them, you can easily see that they've been a net positive for vtubers in NA.

>>2784324
Read this post. Need I say anymore? Paid shill.

>>2781340
I dont have an issue with them because I don't watch them but this art they use to present them looks like late 2000s deviantArt dogshit lol

They literally ruin the Vtubing sphere by existing. Now everytime somebody mentions vtubers they'll say shit like, you know one of them does porn on chaturbate? People like vtubing because it is a wholesome escape from retarded modern society and vShoujo, since they are western women, do not understand that concept and completely ruin it. Also nobody likes whores.

>They literally ruin the Vtubing sphere by existing. Now everytime somebody mentions vtubers they'll say shit like, you know one of them does porn on chaturbate? People like vtubing because it is a wholesome escape from retarded modern society and vShoujo, since they are western women, do not understand that concept and completely ruin it. Also nobody likes whores.

>>2784398
People can like vtubing for whatever reason they want. Melody's massive popularity shows that there is demand for that type of content and no one prior was fulfilling it.

>>2784398
>They literally ruin the Vtubing sphere by existing.
vtubing is too decentralized to be destroyed by anyone. If any vtubing agency fails people will just move on to another agency or to an indie

>>2784419
get off 4chan nyanners

>>2784398
i think you underestimate how many vtubers there are and how flooded the market is
these girls are lucky because they were already previously established talents on a platform they were on for years

>>2784164
> from the ground-up
Oh come on. They jumped on the train the second it became profitable and not a moment earlier.

>>2784448
I do not mind Melody on her own, but rather the fact that she promotes and collaborates with a genuinely shitty person.

>>2781340
"Why would anyone hate the people trying to bring Twitch whore trash into the V-tubing sphere"
They are whore trash being told they aren't wanted, as it should be

>>2782994
This is some odd delusion hololive fans managed to be so annoying they got this entire board created and regularly go out of their way to shit on any company that is relevant competition.

>>2784558
/thread

>>2781340
>Why is a group of people from a corner of the internet that most people consider cancerous so controversial?

>>2783885
>I made a wall of autism to show you I'm being prefectly reasonable

>>2784558
>Twitch whore trash
These are just buzzwords that equate to "I hate them because they're western." Holowhores talk about sex and periods and brap fetishes but now it's suddenly a problem when English-speaking women do it.

>>2784558
>trying to bring Twitch whore trash into the V-tubing sphere
Is it really that bad? Are they really bring in thottery? Does this sound like a Twitch whore to you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAW0LaYoFQQ

>>2784650

>>2784655
Nobody likes twitchfags.
You must've missed the 10000 times retards in Hololive and Nijisanji chats have superchatted to talents to get them to say "pog" because it's so fucking epic bro XD
Twitchfags don't stay in their bubble and nobody likes them and their brain damage terminology.

>>2784655
I hate them because they act like western women on a western site. So, yes, I do hate them because they're western.

>>2784655
When Holos talk about lewd stuff, it is an exception and most of them immediately act embarrassed, whereas Vshitshow whores literally cannot stop talking about boobs, penis or some toilet shit FOR A SECOND.

And would not even mind that. I think even a pervert like Melody can be endearing IF she would not associate with genuinely horrible people like Nyanners, a literal lying, stealing, immoral, double faced cunt.

>>2784655
>>2782633

>>2784782
Hololive came first so what does that say about that shit wojak image vshojofag?

>>2784761
Anon, I just looked up Nyanners funny moments and filtered it by view count and this is what I got, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmi5yGATW8Y
Absolute fucking disgust with these whores

>>2781340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAAoaA6J4-c

>Hololive came first so what does that say about that shit wojak image vshojofag?

>>2784740
>act like western women
incels rationalizing their race fetishism with these nonsensical intellectual concepts is hilarious. Nobody else views the world like this except for you and your echo chamber.

>>2784261
>>2784894
>>>/qa/
back to your cuckshed

>>2784655
I watch plenty of western V-tubers that somehow manage to be normal and not filthy whores. V-shoujo specifically prides itself on producing trash content for people who like Twitch whores, that's why people hate them and not the other western v-tubers people post about on this board

>>2784894

>>2784838
meanwhile a video literally titled IM HORNY is the most viewed thing on Marines own channel that isn't a music video

>>2781340
it's?

>>2781340
>Why is VShojo so controversial?
Probably because of tribalism and politics? Anyway...
VShojo Cons:
1. Less concern about their sex when picking who can join (some may be males)
2. Less quality control.
VShojo Pros:
1. Less regard for being kid friendly.
2. Nyanners seems talented.

>>2781340
They are not controversial, just a bunch of sluts and whores. That's about it.

>>2784933

Who gives a shit

I remember when they were touting themselves in their pre-debut marketing as a "Talent first agency" which has the implication that the other agencies in some way harm their talents. Adding in the fact that a few of the talents seem to have some sour grapes over not making it into HoloEN and you have a recipe for some controversy.

I don't mind them, though, even if their content isn't up my alley.

>>2784674
V-shoujo general belongs on /soc/ where their whores can be in good company

>>2784979
>2. Nyanners seems talented.

>>2781631
>If they were exactly the same, but spoke Japanese, they would be beloved icons.
Nah there are many more reasons; however, that is certainly part of it I suppose. Those same people can at times hate Gura for stealing the spotlight from JP.

Are you guys going to be this brutal to Comdost when he debuts out H.Live_EN?

>>2781340
Froot is really cute but trapped behind a shitty design. Mel is funny but is literally a camwhore. Nyanners can be funny when she isnt saying bottom of the barrel poop/masturbation jokes, plus has the only good design. Ironmouse has a shit design but an alright personality that can sometimes be a bit too much. Literally who even cares about the rest. There's your answer.

>>2785153
>I hate Nyanners
I’m just judging her on her ability for the role, and the effort applied. Do you actually disagree with it?

>why do people not like whores?
the thread

People don't realize Half of Hololive were Camwhores and Titty streamers as well. Its just retards that think anything japanese is better.

>>2781340
vshojo is currently rapidly growing while holoen is reclining and stagnating, that's bound to draw some dislike

Japanese chatting streams on NicoNico aren't titty streams but go off with your EOP knowledge lad.
Some of you don't even know the retarded tax evading jap who owns this website does the exact same shit and has been for years

>>2785243
The thing is that with Hololive the titty streaming and vtubing is seperate. Vshojo however are just e whores with avatars.

>>2785315
>t-those don't count b-because they're pure japanese maidens

>>2785193
>Nyanners can be funny when she isnt saying bottom of the barrel poop/masturbation jokes
i.e. never

Nice projection and cope when you have 0 idea what you're talking about

>>2785243
>People don't realize Half of Hololive were Camwhores and Titty streamers as well
Well a lot of Japanese voice actresses would have no problem with doing sexual scenes for characters, either in anime or whatever. I see no problem with it, just keep the kids away.

>>2781340
>its full of whores
I wonder why?

>>2785356
stop it with the kayfabe

>>2785233
Yes. She is the laziest most untalented piece of trash I have ever seen. She literally just streams other peoples content while saying the same repetitive garbage over and over, or references some old meme, or tells a story about her farting once and that is her content. The most funny thing is that her main """talent"" is supposed to be voice acting, yet she always does only one fucking voice.

Can someone explain why anime boobies are bad?

>>2785240
I just want someone I watch to be just as talented/interesting as they are lewd. Marine is a prime example. She moans into the mic, gets spanked onstream and talks about her fetishes, but she can also tell fascinating stories of her days working in the office, make jokes, voice act, sing and draw. Some of the Vshojos are quite talented, but a decent number of them fall below the curve and use lewd jokes as a crutch.

>>2785356
So Hololive is better because they are hidden whores? That doesn't make sense

>>2785467
He means what the girls do outside of Hololive shouldn't be projected onto the actual business its self because it's done under Hololive's name
The actual garbage content and porn is literally attached to Vshojo's characters because it's all done in character under their avatars

>>2781340
its the huniepop of v tubing

>>2785499
not done under Hololive's name virtually*

>>2785464
>I just want someone I watch to be just as talented/interesting as they are lewd. Marine is a prime example
I agree with this. It’s weird when someone tells me the lewd part is immoral, when I think it’s immoral to hate the lewd part. Whatever I guess.

>>2784761
Fun fact: Melody is friends with Nyanners but she also recommended a lolicon futanari with urthral insertion doujin to Critikal and the dude that looks like jizz

>>2785533
Perfect comparison.

>>2785432
>She is the laziest most untalented piece of trash I have ever seen. She literally just streams other peoples content
Tiktok viewings and reaction content is pretty lazy but why target only Nyanners when thats most Twitch streamers content

Theyre all kiaras with the same humor and less talent, the only difference is that kiara literally speaks three languages which makes her retarded, instead the vshoujos act retarded because they are.

>>2785432
Lets not act like Hololive's content is any better honestly. Its mostly Zatsudan Sing til certain milestone. And milking a game until its dry. and its a neverending cycle too its pretty awful.

>>2785644
>Its mostly Zatsudan Sing til certain milestone
God I wish, it would've never caught on in the west if this was the case

>>2785026
Not defending them, but there's a loooooooot of black companies in the vtuber sphere

>>2781657

>>2785233
She's retarded and unfunny 90% of the time. You can tell she tries really hard in trying to come up with a variety of bits to use for her stream, but she just has such dismal comedic sense that she either runs it into the ground, realizes it was a bad joke halfway through and drops it, or just makes the punchline her screaming. I can understand finding it endearing that she's a fuckup who tries, but there no world where she's talented in any way

>>2785730
>Nyanshit is 4chan
oh my sides

>>2781340
Vshojo has managed to attract the most insufferable of SJW stans. and that's probably because of Zen's anti-Trump tweet and Nyanners' dog shit stances
I wouldn't have a problem with Vshojo if they have an equivalent of Matsuri who will act as a kryptonite to keep the retards away

>>2785730
Nah. From the looks of it Gura is far closer to 4chan and Nyanners embodies what peak Reddit is >>2785216

>>2785758
>makes the punchline her screaming
Oh god I hate that so much
>IT IS FUNNIER THE LOUDER I SCREAM, RIIIIGHT!?
no

>>2785758
Weird, you guys seem to watch more than I’ve seen of Nyanners. Maybe Judging her based on the clips (which is all I have seen) wasn’t an accurate representation? I don’t watch Nyanners because I cannot get past her overly-sensitive and overly-sympathetic sounding voice (like she’s in a constant state of danger), but assumed based on the clips that she was doing pretty decent at her job.

>>2785876
Pink cat is simultaneously 2008 4chan, 2012 tumblr and 2020 reddit at the same time

>>2782595
no thats all Snuffy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUM64GcYGEg

>>2782994
Goddamn fucking this. >>2783044 The VSJ threads that stay up here are comfy for the most part and the people posting bait threads are Holo fans trying to score points by being tribalist against anyone who's not them.

>>2785963
She is a fake who just does whatever is popular at a given time. For a while, it was 4chan humor, so she did that, then it was SJW culture so she did that. Right now, vtubing is popular, so she's right there.

>>2781340
>open Nyanners stream
>She's talking about random boomer movies
What's the big deal?

>>2786020
If someone told me Snuffy was just Sasha Grey on twitch but just V-tubing , I would believe it.

>>2782994
>VShojo's fans

Fucking what? Holy fucking shit you are retarded if you think VShojofags are causing shit. There are maybe 50-60 of us that regularly participate in the general, 10 or so visitors curious or fans of other vtubers that we have done shit with (Uto, Ai, SIRO, whatever), and 20 or so trolls trying to start shit. Meanwhile there are thousands of HL fans here. There's no fucking way you're even accidentally running into VShojo fans on /vt/ in your threads. You're being baited hard by false flagging tribal assholes who want to start wars and collect (you)s.

>>2786144
>Vshojo's getting uppity

>>2786053
Nope. I don't like/watch Holo either, but I hate western cancer even more, especially Sjw pandering. Keep your garbage contained where it belongs.

>>2786144
Honestly though, it is a way for VShojo to fight back, by causing division within Hololive. Which is obviously happening even if I cannot tell you to what degree.

>>2786197
The fuck are you talking about. Why would VSJ fans want to start a fight with Holo or Holo fans? All the VSJ girls admit to loving the Holo girls and the fans would love to see them collaborate and shit. The hatred is entirely one sided.

>>2786144
>50-60
Anon, let's not exaggerate, I'd estimate max 40.

The Fact that people think anybody in Hololive is "4chan" is funny. Go on any other board and people will shit on you for saying that. I really don't get the elitism in this hobby when its all about donating to anime girls you think are hot

>>2786236
>Why would VSJ fans want to start a fight...
It’s not hard to understand. Holo fans attack VShojo streamers, and VShojo fans attack Hololive streamers. Happens a lot.

>>2786291
Did you stop reading there? The next sentence lays out why that's stupid and makes no sense. Only in the most tribalistic minds possible does attacking people in your field for no good reason make sense.

>>2786268
>donating
I seriously hope you don't actually do this lmao

>>2786316
>it needs to make sense to me how people can be that tribalistic.
Not everyone thinks like you. I’m saying it happens, because those people post here.

>>2786113
Sasha Grey has a twitch and shes pretty tame compared to some twitchtubers

>>2786236
>Why would VSJ fans want to start a fight with Holo or Holo fans?
Why wouldn't they? They're SJWs who want to destroy your hobby. There's barely any difference between VSJ fans and Genshin twitter stans.

>>2786438
>>>/v/

>>2781340
People here are too mentally ill to be able to ignore things they dislike. They feel need to seek it out and let it live rent free. It's pathetic. The definition of needing meds. I don't like vshojo, either, but I don't seek it out to whine and cry about it every day.

>>2786385
I'm saying this isn't really a thing on the other end. It's not even a thing in the greater Holo community. It's almost entirely self-contained to 4chan and this board. When you look at VSJ fans in their threads on /vt/ or /aco/ or wherever the fuck the only times Holo comes up are to feel bad that the Holo girls don't get to collab with the VSJ girls.

>>2781484
take your meds schizo

>>2786533
feel the need*

>>2786316
It does, its called gatekeeping sweetie. I don't want whores to even be represented in the industry so they should all be indies and whos.They actively make the scene shit because of their whoredom. If you're gonna act like yourself and be a whore, open up the facecam instead of the avatar. The whole vtubing rig is to gatekeep whores by making it personality based, but instead vshoujo uses the avatar to be whores.

>>2782633
based

>>2786553
then go back cause at the end of the day, cover knows they are whores and won't allow collabs cause they'll damage their brand

>>2786553
>It's almost entirely self-contained to 4chan and this board.
That’s why I said those people (overly tribalistic) post here, and it goes both ways because hatred breads hatred.
Even within Hololive, fans of different streamers try to take down other streamers in support of the one they like best. Sure it’s mostly contained here, but it’s very, very real.

>>2786604
It's always neckbeards who have no stake in anything that see themselves as gatekeepers.

>>2786657
Ame is close friends with Silvervale, Ollie plays games off stream with Zentreya, Polka likes Froot and Nyan, Kiara wanted to collab with Vei. When are you going to stop sucking corporate cock and let the girls do what they want anon?

The Fact of this is is that hololive fans get super butthurt about collabs and other brands because they think they're "leeching" off hololive. Even though Hololive had to leech off Nijisanji and China to become relevant. Look at how Miko leeched off that dog vtuber but then never returned the favor

>>2786770

>>2786197
>by causing division within Hololive
Why the fuck would any of us bother? You guys do it on your own. The whole point of /vt/ is the result of HL fags not being able to get along on /jp/.

>>2786266
Doesn't really matter, because fewer VSJ fans being on /vt/ just makes it even more unlikely anybody here is actually encountering them outside of the general. It makes it more likely these are bait threads with false flaggers.

>>2786604
You realize the discussion is about VSJ fans aren't doing that shit, right? You're basically admitting that your "gatekeeping" measures are what is causing all these bait threads.

Only imbeciles didn't realize that in the first place.

>>2786770
>Ame is close friends with Silvervale
wow really?
>Kiara wanted to collab with Vei
I wouldn't even know what to fucking expect with this. I honestly don't know how these two would mesh at all. Not that they wouldn't but it could be like pouring water on an oil fire. Kiara is girly as fuck and Vei is a hyper lewd and generally dommy, vulgar bitch (I say that while liking her).

>>2786881
>VSJ fans aren't doing that shit
VSJ fans are obvious discord tourists who unironically use incel and spam wojak, and they need to fuck off.

>>2786929
>wow really?
Yep.

>I wouldn't even know what to fucking expect with this.
Makes two of us, but that's why I want to see it. It wouldn't be boring, I'm sure.

>>2786881
>Why the fuck would any of us bother?
What’s so hard to understand? I’m clearly not saying you personally, only that hated breads hatred.

>>2787008
Again, you think those are VSJfags, but you're being baited hard by false flaggers. Go look at the Nyanners anti threads. It will always eventually come down to two morons bantering back and forth, one with the sperg schizo meme pics he's created and dumps in every thread and the other the wojack incel pedo spammer. Meanwhile, actual VSJfags abandoned those threads ages ago. They're made by antis, populated by antis, and constantly bumped by antis, and the most hilarious part is that there is always a time of the day when it peaks and then a time of the day when they're not around.

>It does, its called gatekeeping sweetie. I don't want whores to even be represented in the industry so they should all be indies and whos.They actively make the scene shit because of their whoredom. If you're gonna act like yourself and be a whore, open up the facecam instead of the avatar. The whole vtubing rig is to gatekeep whores by making it personality based, but instead vshoujo uses the avatar to be whores.

>>VSJ fans aren't doing that shit
>VSJ fans are obvious discord tourists who unironically use incel and spam wojak, and they need to fuck off.

>>2787061
>>2787106
No one would hate Vshojo if it wasn't for insufferable VSJ fans and Zen/Nyanners starting shit just to pander to sjws. If they stood their ground and acted like Gura with all the UOH memes then none of this would ever happened but instead what we got is them denouncing weebs and equating them to Epstein's conglomerates, and also cancelling the Nekopara collab because it wasn't politically correct enough in 2021.

>>2786874
nta but watson was a streamer before joining Holo and was very close public friends with Silvervale. It's not hard to find the previous name she streamed under and it's not hard finding connections with Silvervale with that name. She also used to chat in Silver's discord. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyd47l-_h2c Here's a clip of Ollie talking about how she likes the VSJ girls including Zen, and in Zen's stream she says they're close friends and played Apex together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE8JK6UYVeg Kiara wanted to collab with Vei https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuASjJxz-4w and Vei wanted to do the same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVmc1cLnQXk Polka brought up VSJ and specifically called out Nyan and Froot as people she liked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xTRso6cL6E

>>2787061
I'm not denying that, but the thing is, in general, most HL fans even on /vt/ stay out of our general aside from a couple of fucks who want to start shit, but they're completely ignored, get no (you)s, and leave unsatisfied. When you have a demonstratively small fanbase on this site, the idea of going around trying to start wars with fans in the thousands is pretty silly. Besides, many VSJ fans watch HL people, too. We have literally zero reason to hate on HL when we also enjoy them. The only people on here we don't care for are the same ones you don't: tribalist anti shitter fucks. The rest of HL and the fanbase doesn't bug us one bit or generally ignore us, so there's no real mass hate going on.

So let me postulate to you an alternative: what's more likely, that a relatively small group who would get obliterated in a tribal war by simple numbers is trying to start shit or bored annoying teenage most likely Australian jackass trolls out for (you)s and doing it "for the luls" (and keeping in mind we're on fucking 4chan) are false flagging to bait the shit out of people?

I have no evidence that VSJfags aren't causing shit. I have no evidence that they're just trolls or tribali HLfags. I just know 4chan and I know what is far more likely.

>>2787106
>Only 2 people can hate my streamers
Meanwhile VSJ fags dont even hide their discordfaggotry anymore

>>2786144
Sounds similar to another company in competition with hololive. Really small numbers of posters comparatively. But falseflaggers and others acting in bad faith regularly use them as easy bait for hololive fans stirring up hatred and conflict. All the while spreading negative half truths and rumour about things they don't even watch.

>>2787295
>a singled out post in a different thread in a completely different board
based and logicpilled

>>2787295
>posts something from /pmg/ on /aco/ who constantly disown /vt/ and even the VShojo general here

Good job, buckwheat. Also check the other comments related to that post. /pmg/ has no love for discordfags either.

>>2787295
This.
They keep strawmanning
>hurr it's all the HLfags
I don't even give a shit about Hololive. The Vshojo fags need to fuck off back to their discord or plebbit.

>>2781340
Nothing about Vshojo is controversial, they just live in /vt/'s tribalfag heads rent free. They're lewder than hololive and that's not for everyone, but thzere's nothing controversial about them.

>>2787301
And so it goes ad infinitum. Most VSJfags are unityfags. We want to watch vtubers all over the place and would love to see multiple mass collabs. Sure, we want our girls involved, too, but that's not always our choice. And, yes, sure, we don't particularly care for or understand HL's business practices vis a vis VShojo and (especially with HL-EN) other streamers. But it is what it is. There's no hate for HL fans there, no hate for HL talents, though maybe a bit of a eye-roll for Cover, which is not unique to us.

>>2787438
/vt/ tribalfags live inside your head rent free
They get tons more hate outside of this website and outside of their hugbox

>nothing controversial
Keep deluding yourself retard

>>2787575
Show me some of this hate anon. Go on. I haven't seen any of it outside of a handful of schizos on Twitter that can probably be counted on one hand.

>>2787606
literally just put something nyanners in the search bar and you can see hate from the first results lol
some people call her traitors, others call her a vtweeter and even tumblr trash

melody is hated by a ton of chaturbate thots and porn stars and even false flagged her vids as underage
etc etc.

>>2787354
>>2787359
>Instantly recognizing the post from another board
>Nooo you cant compare them they are totally different people

>>2787293
>When you have a demonstratively small fanbase on this site, the idea of going around trying to start wars with fans in the thousands is pretty silly.
Only takes one person to make a mess and no way for you to know 100% who that person is. Overall I agree with you insomuch as you say it’s a minority, but that’s all it takes on both sides to continue this endless hell, is one single spark of fire. How do you fix it? You can’t.

>>2787606
>Hurr pls do the research for me, I literally live under a rock in a cave and don't know how to use google
Fuck off retard

>>2787785
Anon did you know that there are 2 kinds of boards on 4chan. The board we're currently on is blue. The background of the board in the screenshot is not blue. See the connection yet?

>>2787765
>>2787856
Ah so you're talking about the same people on /vt/ just in other places. If your proof of people outside hating them is shit like Kiwifarms then nobody gives a shit.

>>2787861
Your new is showing
Lurk more and fuck off

>literally just put something nyanners in the search bar and you can see hate from the first results lol
>some people call her traitors, others call her a vtweeter and even tumblr trash
>melody is hated by a ton of chaturbate thots and porn stars and even false flagged her vids as underage
>etc etc.

>>2787956
So are you saying that this is a post on /vt/ or is it not? I know it's possible and easy to change the colors, but most people don't bother so it's a very easy indicator that it's elsewhere. But feel free to prove me wrong and show me where this post is from.

>>2781631
I'm a teamate and I hate most indie western vtubers. The reason is because they talk about sucking cock.

>>2787913
>everyone i don't like is just /vt/
lol, that's where you're wrong
many people hate vshojo for different reasons and some of their reasoning is even just the general hate in vtubers in general
certain japanese and some chinese are also starting to dislike vshojo
vshojo hate didn't start here but started on youtube and twitter actually
a ton of them don't even visit this site at all considering they stink of reddit but still manage to hate on vshojo

>>2781340
spare ironmouse, she is a good girl

>>2788005
>It only counts if I'm being discord on /vt/
This is why people dislike VSJ fags

>>2787989

>>2787956
If I change the setting for style setting I can I post pron?

>>2788244
>moving the goalposts
here's your (you)

>>2788059
Citing general vtuber hate as something specific to VSJ is weird. And certain japanese and chinese is non committal and non specific. Nobody said the hate started here but it propagates easily because most posters here are incel weebs who hate anything west of Russia.

>>2788293
Why dont you try

What controversy?

>>2787989
None of the search suggestions included hate, "some people" is literally a few anons here who cant let it go, source needed on pornstars hating her, etc. is codeword for "can't think of anything else"

>>2788352
There was a minor controversy when Melody started from cam streamers who thought people were going to just go to automated porn. But that ended from almost everyone immediately after her debut when it was shown how much effort she puts into her streams. She even won an award on CB recently.

>>2788392
An award on CB? Jesus holy shit hahahaahaha

>>2785876
>The problem with "retard" and "autist"
>This seems like a no-brainer

>>2788346
How is this moving the goalpost lmao
All you do is avoiding the fact that the /pmg/ discordniggers are the same people shilling VSJ on /vt/

>>2787252
>"Vei and Kiara talk about each other and about potential collab"
>someone says vshojo has too much peepee and queef humor and doesn't mesh
>"Awww are they too much for your sensitive mindset, shove off basement dweller."
This is why people hate Vshojo, discord tranny redditor faggots are their primary fanbase for a reason and are unironically calling people "basement dwellers". You're watching a fucking e-girl puppeteer a pair of anime titties you fucking dumbass hypocrite secondary.

>>2781340
mostly because its terrible and full of whores.

>>2788633
mom look how many buzzwords i can add into a single post!!!! i'd better say nigger a few times too so they know i'm cool and edgy

>>2788672
Dilate.

>>2788346
You unironically using incel as an insult is definitely only making the image of VSJ fags worse on this board. And no, I can agree with the guy because I've seen thousands upon thousands of Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube hits about VSJ hate, and in particular most of them are directed at Nyanners. The doomposting you see here is a lot worse on Twitter and other group hugboxes, and most of them are directed at western vtubers, and even Vshojo in particular.

>>2788710
so you're an incel

>>2788765
I'm a volcel

All vtubers are incels.

never understood why basement dweller is an insult, seems like it would be comfy as fuck

Hololive fans are from Reddit. Nobody cared about Roomate Posting and People sharing membership streams until bootlicking redditors arrived and started sucking Covers Dick and unironically using the term "poorfag".

>>2788850
Nah, they're from Twitter and Youtube. Words Hololive popularized like "Erogaki" and "Mesugaki" would get you an immediate ban on Reddit. Redditfags are Vshojo since they act like one and have Reddit mentality

>>2788994
>Words Hololive popularized

>>2788994
>words hololive popularized like "erogaki" and "mesugaki"
Anon what?

>>2785216
I fixed your image, you can't just not take responsibility for your first daughter, anon.

>>2789495
She's a defector and has already been disowned like the wojak and frog spam. And it will stay that way for as long as she panders to SJWs and disrespects loli.

>>2789673
Our daughter just wants to make easy money, anon. I don't fault her for it.
As for the wojak and frog spam, the jannies just clean it up faster than literally anything else.

>>2789755
She can make money without pandering to SJWs or disrespecting loli. And everything she did is all her own fault, and all the hate is deserved. She can't be trusted at all.

What's the medication that Ironmouse is often on during streams? I know what she condition she has, but what is she being given and for what purpose?

>>2789673
Literally who is the green one?

>>2789755

Cancelling the Nekopara collab is the opposite of easy money and literally pandering to the perpetually triggered. Fuck off

>>2789956
Didn't they play something else instead so basically nothing changed? Not like people care about Nekopara in particular, it's a trash VN.

>>2789893
>disrespecting loli
do you hear yourself right now anon. the fuck is wrong with you to feel this strongly about a fetish.

>>2781340
>why are a group of girls that act like whores controversial in an increasingly large group of young men who are tired of seeing overtly sexual women in society

>>2782633

>>2790025
Nekopara is hot garbage but that doesn't change the fact that Nyanners cancelled it to pander to SJWs and not because she wanted more money. She clarified her intentions in one of her train watching streams, tried to pinned the blame on others.

>>2788850
>free entertainment fag

/vt/ is one of the most tribalistic boards on the site, and the Hololive-only antis are getting as bad as the chinks when it comes to lashing out at indies and other company vtubers. It comes as no surprise, and Vshojo isn't alone on this.

>>2790112
Link? She better say "I did it to pander to SJWs" or it doesn't count.

>>2790112
>>2790230
To add to that, I immediately stopped watching Nyanners after that garbage. I tried giving her a 2nd chance but she blew it.
If there's any new developments about her feel free to fill me in because I won't be bothered to watch her streams at all.

>>2790222
/v/ had been trying to colonize holofags since the /jp/ era pre-holoEN by tribalposting, didn't really work due to the lack of tourists and redditors, /vt/ is now just filled with tourists and newfags all over from discord, twitter, and redditors trying to fit in tribalposting now works wonders

>>2781657
Nah, Zen too

People like Mel and Mouse though

>>2790222
the solution was always to name this board /Hololive/ but nah Hiroyuki is a faggot

>>2790040
not him but anime girl waifus are worth dying for
i would defend them down to my last breath even if it's the last thing i do
if you have a wife or a gf and someone talks shit and spreads misinformation/rumours about them, you'd feel the same as well
some people are just passionate and of course likewise they also have the equal and opposite: passionate hatred

>>2781340
They all suck except 4 of them.

>>2790515
>comparing a wife to a cartoon
Holocringers are peak autism

You guys didn't tell me nyanners was based

You Will Always Be A Whore, Vshojoniggers

>>2790883
Go back to sucking Conner's dick

>>2790142
>Proving my point with another buzzword
Go back. there's a whole sub there just for you buddy

>>2787233
You're speaking like a monkey who can't recognize his own reflection in the mirror.

Because they're open about being whores, unlike hololive who are pretending to be innocent virgins (lol)

>>2789755
You can't fault her, she's still a whore and shouldn't be allowed in to track her filth all over the house

>>2791604
Atleast they're honest about being whores. better then lying about it like hololive

>>2781340

Some faggots can't handle that non-Japanese girls are doing things on the internet.

>>2791620
vshojo = streetwalkers
hololive = hostess club

>>2790883
He says while posting a member of Conner's harem

>>2792032
Apt comparison

>>2784316

Vhojo , Hololive ? very cool glad their fans are tribalist that must be very funny to them.
https://youtu.be/PuASjJxz-4w
https://youtu.be/cVmc1cLnQXk

https://youtu.be/eL-cw2q_Q3Q?t=23
https://youtu.be/HE8JK6UYVeg

https://youtu.be/PmsT1bSYopM?t=4
https://youtu.be/uwhMHjJWJMc
https://youtu.be/1xTRso6cL6E

>>2781448
The funniest part is the one who does actual porn is one of the least whore-like among them.

>>2793172
Good to hear the only ones who want to collab with the VShojo are the ones that are legit menhera.

Polka gets a pass because she's a dumb JOP and we love her for it.

>>2781631
What a good post. Too bad people are too in denial to admit it

>>2781340
Because from left to right, it's
>literally who
>two-faced bitch
>tts tranny
>actual smoothbrain prostitute
>the sick one
>literally what
>the e-girl thot

The only one who doesn't seem garbage is ironmouse, but her chat is flooded with simps and her mods are creepy pseudo-mommies who refuse to let people discuss anything around her. She's in the worst sort of bubble.

>>2781520
>>2781631
Weird, back on the /trash/ western vtuber threads I was told their worst offense was just overuse of sex humor and being kind or bland otherwise.

>>2793824
That only applies to the extreme weeb though. You know, the kind that hates their own family for not learning Japanese. Some of those people hate Gura too, simply for taking some of the spotlight away. I’m not one of those people, but I cannot get into VShojo for many reasons. I do like Gura though.

>>2781340
>Why is VShojo so controversial?
Because theyre doing just as well or better than a lot of Hololive including HoloEN.
Ironmouse has more streamers on twitch than Mori has watching her on Youtuber fight now

>>2794213
Incel culture and Asian fetishism have a pretty large overlap. They're not really weebs in the way you think, they're just extremely sexist weirdos who give special exceptions to the Japanese because the language barrier helps dehumanize them.

>>2795157
>They're not weebs
>Asian fetishism
>Only japs get a pass
Make some sense before you type jesus christ

>>2784316
>western w*men

>>2795215
I mean they're not weebs in the sense of "nippon stronk, anime is better than western trash" type shit. They're a more evolved, sinister breed.

>>2795221
>/pol/bys can't even make their own art and have to shoop other shit just for an unclever joke

>>2781340
>haha sex
Your Will Always Be A Whore
>haha penis
Your Will Always Be A Whore
>haha vagina
Your Will Always Be A Whore
>haha penis in vagina
Your Will Always Be A Whore
>haha penis in penis
Your Will Always Be A Whore
>haha boobies
Your Will Always Be A Whore

>>2796235
>Your
embarassing

>>2795419

>>2796235
Learn to spell before you insult people.

>>2795221
>Using a western woman in your image
Most other polfags would laugh at you for liking this garbage.

>>2781340
they have controversy besides the whole
>sydsnap using an avatar but acting the same as she otherwise does on stream, give or take a few more cries of "LOOK AT ME I AM A GIANT SLUT LET ME FUCK MORE FOR BIGGER TITTIEZ!"
element? past that show of ineptitude and contempt for the field I barely know or remember exist.

>>2796843
>implying most people even know who sydsnap is
Why do people assume I watch anituber trash? No one I know even watches stuff like her or trash taste yet everyone here is always talking about it. Why?

>>2797425
she pretty much openly told everyone she was playing hime on her anituber channel
connor is only getting brought up because the Holo ID girls are fangirling over him on stream and twitter

Nyanners gets called a hypocrite constantly but shouldn't veibae also be called one when she shit on corporations yet joined vshitshow anyway?

>>2785189
Most people here don't even know about HLive, just like most people here don't pay much attention (if any) to Comdost.

>>2797425
HoloID on TrashTaste soon anon

>>2781340
they're successful

>>2781340
They get seen as what all EN vtubers are like when it's not the case.

But they're the only western ones that get much attention, courtesy of the clipfags who make them to be all about pee pee poo poo.

>>2781959
Oh no, not leftypol cringe the horror.

>>2783885
That's why I'm looking forward so much the collab between Ai-chan and Matsuri on the Gariben V special

>>2793824
>>2781631
This argument completely falls apart once you notice that this place trips over themselves to suck off Koopa, africat, and Nina.

>>2796235
Peeksa!

>>2797719
>changed her mind
>hypocrite

God help you if you ever change your mind on anything, apparently.

>>2797881
>They get seen as what all EN vtubers are like when it's not the case.

Why is that their fault? Easily the most annoying thing about this tribalism bullshit is how fucking ignorant people are of everything. Clipfags watch clips and think they know everything about something, and this is true for anybody, VSJ, HL, Nijisanji, indies, anything. It's fucking retarded how often and how eagerly people reveal how little they know.

>>2798258
Because the average user on here can‘t.

>>2789893
Disrespecting loli? Goddamn, kill yourself. Just end your suffering.

>>2785189
lel what the fuck is this, that's like calling your company Holdlive or something

>>2799166
Is MyHolo still a thing?

>>2799196
>MyHolo
never heard of them but they had 4 members and now they only have 1

>>2781959
Does Zentreya count as a tranny? I thought it was generally agreed upon that they are likely operated by a couple. The girlfriend does motion capture and was caught talking one time and the boyfriend types out the dialogue.

>>2802899
iirc the girl left

>>2798258
Yeah, I changed my mind so I ordered a design that would appeal to past me (that I very loudly disawoved.) Nothing wrong with that.

>>2781373
Simply, their politic afiliation , fuck BLM, LGBT and SJW they are always trying to fuck japanese entertainment while making a profit of it.

The three groups who hate them, essentially:

1. Pedophiles who will never forgive Nyanners for calling them out after they tried years to groom her to become their child sex queen
2. Obsessed electionfags who can't handle normal political opinions and freak the fuck out if anyone around them as much as implies that maybe being a racist is a bad thing
3. Incel idolfags who have rotted their brain with Japanese media to the point where they think that Japanese women are uniquely pure and kind as opposed to mean western bitches like the high school Stacies who rejected their advances

VShojo enjoyers are the only well adjusted people on this board. Sad!

>>2782071
That person admitted that they were absolutely in the wrong and already took the loss. Meanwhile Nyanners keep pinning the blame on other people and recently cancelled the Nekopara collab because it wasn't politically correct enough and apparently "offends" people. Then also threatened people to change her model because of loli, meaning she hasn't changed at all. Feel free to prove me wrong though.

>>2804784
>1. Pedophiles who will never forgive Nyanners for calling them out after they tried years to groom her to become their child sex queen
I will never get this, it's just blaming videogames for violence all over again. Media will often depict murder and torture, which are equally or more heinous than pedophilia, why does fictional murder get a pass but pedophilia is somehow different?

I have just about had enough.
What the FUCK is the point of these threads???
If you want an answer to something ask on a specific thread or use the fucking ARCHIVE because your shit question has been answered before!
STOP MAKING THESE SHIT THREADS HOLY SHIT.


im stuck in a timeloop

>>2804878
If you jacked off to video game murder I would consider you to be pretty sexually fucked up.

Because vtubers are trash

2804914
Why are you in a Vtuber board then?

>>2804906
The same analogy can also apply to people who enjoy vore and rape porn. It's only a western sjw issue that they try to conflate fiction and reality together and thus we get retards who think killing monsters in a video game is racism. By conflating fiction and reality together, you are essentially spreading western cancer and western cancer need to fuck off.

>>2804948
People who jack off to fictional rape porn have a rape fetish. People who jack off to fictional children have a child fetish. (That means you're a pedophile, by the way)

>>2803359
Rrat: Zentreya is operated by a soulless conglomerate as a tax write-off and has an entire writing team on staff while constantly hiring new people to opperate the avatar.
How else can such a niche vtuber with limited appeal afford so many high-quality redesigns?

>>2804972
The keyword there is child, and anime girls are in no way similar. Just because someone likes animal-like features like cat ears and fox tail in a sexual way doesn't mean they want fuck real animals. And that goes with childish features like lolis. Only retards don't understand that especially western trash.

>>2805003
Easy, the Speedwagon Foundation

>>2804972
Yes, because women who enjoy rape roleplay between consenting adults clearly secretly want to be raped. God I hope you get eviscerated by a pack of feral niggers

>>2802899
>>2803359
Noble (Lost Pause) is the person who started that theory, but he actually doesn't know any more than anybody else does, even tho he (along with Nagzz) used to hang out with Zen a bunch back in the VRChat days. The only time Zen has ever allowed anybody into the person behind the mask was a "voice reveal" years ago, but not only does practically none of that video exist anymore, nobody back then bought any part of it. Zen being a guy is as old a belief as Zen being on the internet. Inevitably, nobody but Zen knows for sure, and they're not talking. Indeed, Zen's only public discussion about their gender is that they don't talk about it and never claim to be anything. Thus, Zen could be a guy, or a girl, but she's not admitting to either. Considering how paranoid Zen is about privacy (and considering the doxxfag nature of the internet, who can blame her), it doesn't surprise me that she doesn't allow anything about her RL to be discussed. The fact she even admitted she lives in Texas was a minor shock, and the only reason she did it is she suddenly vanished from streaming for a week coincidentally right when Texas had the power outage, so she just basically fessed up to avoid having to squash speculation. She also hinted once that she didn't have the most pristine background, which might be another reason she demands privacy.

>>2805285
This.

I had a dream that Vei showed up in my room late at night and basically took it over. Not my room now but more like my room when I was in my late teens. It wasn't a sexual dream so much as like a tease dream. Like I was in my mid to late teens again and didn't want to get caught with a girl in my room at 1am but I also couldn't kick her out because, come on, I want to see where this goes. So I relented and let her stay and we hung out for a while and shot the shit. She said she was going to buy drinks and was counting her money. She gave me a 20 dollar bill for giving her a place to hang out and drink, I guess? At one point I'm sitting in the floor with her, on the carpet, and she leans over and starts whispering into my ear. I forget about what, again nothing really sexual. But almost like someone teasing you to see how far you might go if pushed. There's a give and take as I lean into her whispering, her mouth is basically right next to my ear and her hands are cupped over it so we're flush, and I don't want to give the impression of shrinking away and also want to test her, so am leaning into it. It was that kind of awkward girl boy interactions, especially as over time we became more comfortable with each other, like one of my Japanese animes.

>>2805297
>she didn't have the most pristine background
Zentreya confirmed for rehabilitated 250lbs of muscle male Texan ex-con who got involved in the Aryan Brotherhood to survive but really always just wanted to enjoy his anime.

>>2805333
Zen is now my favorite vtuber because I choose to believe this.

>>2785236

>>2804900
>What the FUCK is the point of these threads???
To shitpost about Vshojo obviously, you think OP actually wanted a civil discussion? These threads will keep getting made as long as they keep getting people mad.

>>2781798
Coco is actually fairly clever. Just look at her recent chat message during Sora's currently ongoing english learning stream.

>全ての疑問詞の直後には"the fuck"を付けるとうまく文章繋がります
>All questions should be immediately followed by "the fuck" to make a good connection.

>>2807020
I love this bitch.

memories...

>>2807020
god, why do they MIX kanji, katakana and hiragana? Fucking japs.

>>2812095
>hiragana for grammatical structures
>katakana for loanwords
>kanji for actual words
it's not that complicated

>>2812095
Do your study reps.
DuoLingo will never teach you these things. Go buy Genki and get to work.

>>2782595
>haha sex
>haha penis
>haha vagina
>haha penis in vagina
>haha penis in penis
>haha boobies

Theyre /here/
https://youtu.be/pOl0qJc03vE?t=127

>>2814123
Does she not notice how much what she says applies to her own shitty Vtubing persona?

>>2814269
>Vtubing persona
That'd imply they care to maintain it. Some of the VShojos don't give a fuck.

>>2793172
Kiara and Ollie go into the trash. Hope they graduate soon.

>>2814269
I think that's the point, she's gonna use her D&D character as a change of pace.

>>2814414
Everybody in her shitty group is like that. She is right that it is boring, but she fails to do the next step and conclude that Vshojo is fucking boring.
And regardless of what character she makes, the conversations will still be 90% about sex or toilet stuff because that is all these maggot minded morons can talk about.

>>2814494
She's saying that she doesn't like playing the same person every day and wants to use it as an opportunity to roleplay something unlike herself. There's no part of the statement that's from the viewer's perspective only her own. You'd know that if you weren't stretching to come up with reasons to get mad about shit.

>>2785216
Wait, I thought gura typed a crying emoticon because she got killed, oh my goooooouohhhhhh

>>2815167
If she gets bored of her own stupid wannabe Tom Green persona, imagine how fucking boring it is for the viewer

>>2816276
the viewers like it though. that's why she has so many in the first place. also who the fuck do you think tom green even is? what part of veibae is like tom green in any way?

>>2816483
I thought we were still shitting on Nyanners, who the FUCK is Veibae?

>>2817277
Try looking at the posts you're replying to sometime. It's a video of Veibae.

>>2817277
At no point in the reply chain was Nyanners mentioned, that video literally has Veibae in the title even if you didn't watch it so how the fuck did you get the idea it was Nyanners?

>>2781340
Because Nyanners is a hypocrite
Melody is a dumb whore
Rest are boring as shit
IronMouse is the only decent one but she won't make it to 2022 anyways

>>2804869
Juniper did not come clean on this issue at all, she gave this non-answer about being "apathetic" towards loli because she knows her actual stance on the matter could lose her subs since she now has a weeb audience.
She also outright lies about "going out of her way to avoid drama" as she was partaking in the Kyuotto hate train just months prior.

>>2793825
I'll take the smooth brain and sicko mode