/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

HOLY BASED

>>2771141
>Roa under 癒し枠
Do u realy?

cringe

>>2771162
変人度

>>2771141
Every single day I cry thinking about how much better the entire world of vtubing would be if Nijisanji or their chuubas didn't exist. Every day I cry buckets.

>>2771141
>horizontal axis: cringe level
>vertical axis: whore level
Change my mind

>>2771266
You calling Joe a whore?

>>2771141
The truth is, everyone on this graph is more soulful than any holo.

>>2771141
motherfucker let gibara rest in peace

>blocks your path

>>2771266
the vertical axis is healing top joke bottom, the horizontal is common sense person left eccentrics right I think

>>2771423
WHEN?

>>2771463
If not today or tomorrow then not this week. Wednesday or Thursday for every week to come.

>>2771195
This.
Nijisanji is a fucking disgrace to the vtuber industry.

>>2771423
The joke of the century.

>>2771141
That 'what is nijisanji format thread'
Really who is that op? That introduction is cringe

>>2771570
It's a holofag.

>>2771570
What's so bad about it? Seems fine to me considering most people on this board aren't familiar with the group.

>>2771570
>>2771585
half the population in the /vt/ niji thread are also holofags

>>2771141
Is this some 5ch invasion shitpost or what? That's disappointing if that's all they got to offer.

>>2771141
Is there a version with new members?

BASED
ALOE LOVE

>>2771588
>most people on this board aren't familiar with the group.
Everyone hates Nijisanji. FTFY.
Yes, you too.

>>2772345
People hate what is strange and unfamiliar to them. You're pretty much saying the same thing.

>>2771988
Dubs.
ALOE LOVE

>>2771537
>>2771195
T. Butthurt 4Kings fag. If not because Nijisanji, vtubers might be destroyed by suit who bought the 4 Kings. And Hololive will not exi- wait you are right, fuck Nijisanji.

>>2771141
>>2771437
>mito is seen as healing for some

>>2773040
Mitomito is the face of Nijisanji.
She's everything.

>>2771399
I bet you never even heard of Gibara before she graduated, she was obnoxious as hell and any hate she gets is fully deserved.

oh look an actual nijianti thread
anyway I'm watching lulu play uncharted right now, it's comfy
https://youtu.be/q-EZa6OdjcM

>>2771195
Can someone explain why?

I've known of Nijisanji for a while, but don't know about their side of vtubing or what they do different

>>2778728
Anon, she had cute moments with Toko at least. Otherwise, eh I guess.

Roa...

>>2787141
It's a tribalist shitposter you're responding to but I'll try to answer your question because I figure that most people on /vt/ are pretty unfamiliar with Nijisanji.

Basically, compared to Hololive content, they cast a much wider net both with more talents and with more niche/specialized content. If you only watch Hololive, then the vast majority of streams can be classified into either 1. Gaming, 2. Zatsudan (Talking), or 3. Music (Karaoke, Cover Songs). Cover is also more selective with their applicants and has stricter requirements about streaming, most talents after 2nd Gen are required to stream at least 3 times per week and until Bloom, everyone was required to take part in events like Holofes. This is not to say that they don't do other types of content (ASMR, Asacoco, Meme Review, and Haachama saga) but they're rarer and as evidenced by the last example, Cover does have a heavy hand in what kinds of content they are allowed to produce.

Nijis have historically had better game permissions than Hololive so a lot of them are more focused in the kinds of games they play. There are even a couple like Ryushen, Sayo, and Uiha who basically don't play games at all except in collaborations or other special circumstances. In comparison, even the Holos that are thought of to be musically focused like Suisei and Towa have a majority of gaming content on their channels.

There is more freedom to do unorthodox streams, key examples include Nazono Mito segments, Tamaki making UberEats drivers race each other, Ririmu doing calculus homework for 6 hours, and some of Mashiro's weirder Zatsudans.

Nijis also tend to be part of more subunits that than Holos and in general the company has more "cliques of friends" atmosphere than Hololive's "family" atmosphere, at least that is how I view it.

>>2790584
>Nijis also tend to be part of more subunits that than Holos and in general the company has more "cliques of friends" atmosphere than Hololive's "family" atmosphere, at least that is how I view it.
Real friendships vs. fake friendships

>>2778728
This.

>>2791557
Roa real friendship vs Watame fake friendship

>>2771141
BLUE ONI YOU FUCKING TRASH WASTE WHORE
>>2771287
I can believe it

>>2791557
Black company vs. good company.

>>2771195
I don't think about Nijisanji at all.

>>2778086
Really? I thought that would be Kanae and Kuzuha.

Why do some of you genuinely despise Nijisanji? Don't be a tribalistic faggot here. Personally, I am indifferent to company and tend to focus more on the individual.

>>2794094
this board unintentionally filters mentally-stable individuals
it's all retards here

>>2794094
Black Company
History of internal bullying
History of harassing other vtubers into retirement
Closest thing Japan has to twitch thot streamers (due to Ichikara's black company status and loose standards for the content they allow)
Worst fans in vtubing who essentially act as antis for every non-niji vtuber

>>2794544
Wrong on every account

>>2771141
TRUE

>>2790584
>Cover is also more selective with their applicants and has stricter requirements about streaming
And that's exactly why Hololive is better. Nijisanji have drama between talents, including Niji vs non-Niji vtubers, every single day because the company doesn't do their fucking jobs.

>>2790584
>Nijis have historically had better game permissions than Hololive

No they dont have better game permissions. It's just that many of them are willing to stream unmonetized.
Prior to Holocaust, actually the common talk was that Cover is much better at getting permissions and they can get anything faster than the incompetent Ichikara. If you were to say they dont bother with permissions you would be called a schizo

>>2794094
lots of shitty people
lots of really bland designs
the actually good people in niji are dragged down by the scum
I agree with you on focusing on the individual, there are individuals I like but the overall group and management I hate

>>2794094
Kuzuha obliterated all holos today in live viewers and they're butthurt now

>>2794926
Another big part of it is that Niji fans report streams of other vtubers but aren't going to report their precious Niji streams.

cool fanfics in this thread right now

>>2795189
good for Holo. If it were to go on any longer companies would do much more than copyright striking some videos.

>>2794544
>>2794960
so much narratives. Tired of this bs

>>2795189
Proof?
>>2794926
>actually the common talk was that Cover is much better at getting permissions and they can get anything faster than the incompetent Ichikara.
That is literally the opposite. Cover have the worse management in regarding of permission and DMCA strike. Ichikara can restore the striked video in mere minute while Cover take long ass time, sometime they cannot even manage to do that. Case point the Holocaust.

>>2795402
>ask question
>get honest answer
>scream it's a lie
Oh I didnt say the biggest reason I hate niji. The fans.

>>2795512
>That is literally the opposite. Cover have the worse management in regarding of permission and DMCA strike. Ichikara can restore the striked video in mere minute while Cover take long ass time, sometime they cannot even manage to do that. Case point the Holocaust.
I meant what was being talked about in 2018-2019. Especially in Japanese forums and discussions were really loud when Sasaki graduated for not getting Nintendo permissions

>>2771141
Why is marumaru so big here

>>2794926
To clarify, you need permissions regardless of monetization. Some companies just only let you stream their games unmonetized.

What people thought isn't the same as what they actually had. They DID have better permissions throughout 2018-2020, people just thought Cover was better at getting them before finding out they just didn't at all.

>>2794964
''Today'' yea because he can't compete during night time.

>>2790584
This just makes me want to watch Nijisanji now.

I only have eyes for Claire

>>2795681
You know why

>>2795640
>2018-2019
That is literally old news during the early stage of vtube industry where boomers in gaming industry don't believe in such thing as free publicity and believe people wouldn't buy their game if they already watched it in youtube. That was everyone problem, not just Nijisanji. Also Sasaki is live and well now playing her favorite games.

chronoir

>>2796229
??? Indies just ignored it anyways because companies don't have the resources to go after individuals, nor should they.

This was only a problem for established companies, of which there were a handful. It was a problem for all of them except Hololive until they got copyright stroke in 2020, which is why people were praising them for game variety prior to that.

>>2796788
Capcom also specifies that indies can stream their games no problem, but corporations need to ask permission

Cover was probably allowed to skate by when they were smaller

>>2796018
>This just makes me want to watch Nijisanji now.
If it actually had that effect then I'm glad I took the time to actually write it out.

There's no point to tribalism, I can see why people might have issue with some of the Niji talents, Ichikara (though to be fair, Cover has it's own share of issues), and there's even the fact that watching Male V-tubers or accepting them in collabs is still a barrier for some fans who only know Hololive.

Personally, I'm not fond of Hololive's Idol branding, I feel like it stifles the talent's creativity and freedom even though some people like Suisei and Nene thrive because of it. You still have people like Coco and Marine who basically walk on the border of what Cover will allow them to say and do but even then, I don't think they would ever be allowed to do something like a Nazano Mito video, or sing Buta no Gohan on stage.

I still watch some Holos (though not nearly as much currently during Monster Hunter month), but having options never hurts.

>>2778728
gibara helped me get into vtubers, i literally dont care

>>2790584
>Tamaki making UberEats drivers race each other, Ririmu doing calculus homework for 6 hours
holy based

>>2795540
This here is why the vtuber community is great. If you even can call this a community when you have people who only care about hololive.

>>2793759
You gay faggot.

>Ichikara
>Good company
Top fucking kek!
Fuck Nijisanji and fuck the bullies.

>>2797335
If only people thought the same. Crazy how just having a brand behind makes people go like that so easliy.

>>2798269
I mean pre-2020 were just people who cared about Niji. A smaller number majority compared to now but still the majority.

>>2798416
this guy never watched meiro

>>2798416
>Cover
>Good company
Top fucking kek!
Fuck Hololive and fuck the harassers (HoloCN, mel's manager)

>>2796018
doesn't help that literally every tribalist post looks like it was made by a literal 10 year old so it naturally made me want to check them out more to spite them fags. they come off as especially jaded when you know holos have good friends in niji. suisei talking about her first experience with iinchou was pretty damn hilarious

>>2798699
There are people in the two companies that have been friends since their niconico days, before even Kizuna AI was a thing, tribalists really are a funny bunch.

>>2778728
How? Is she as bad as Gundou? Worst I can think of is her being a jewess and paywalling a good chunk of her streams.

>>2798699
Suisei has her radio program with Toko and they're probably the strongest inter-company friendship. There's also Matsuri and Sara but like most of Matuli's relationships it seems kind of one sided.

Recently Korone also showed a Birthday video message from Debiru who she's collabed with before.

Marine has also done collabs with Ange and Rize in the past, plus there has been the HoloNiji among us collab.

I feel like we get less of them now which is a shame.