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>> No.27775774
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.27775796
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I thought Koyori and Noel were 10k chuubas? What went wrong?

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* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>37,023: Salome (Nijisanji)
>35,848: Marine (Hololive)
>32,445: Watame (Hololive)
>22,809: Mashiro (Nijisanji)
>22,762: Laplus (Hololive)
>20,480: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,172: Hal (Neo Porte)
>19,412: Kanata (Hololive)
>19,017: Gura (Hololive)
>15,933: Subaru (Hololive)
>15,731: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,412: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>13,979: Mio (Hololive)
>13,510: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,799: Nene (Hololive)
>11,745: Choco (Hololive)
>11,424: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,399: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>11,335: Flare (Hololive)
>10,872: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,744: Kobo (Hololive)
>10,642: Sana (Hololive)
>10,408: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,008: Kobo (Hololive)

>> No.27775850

>>27775796
are you fucking new or something?

>> No.27775852
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>>27775810
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
2x: Pekora
1x: AZKi, Mayuzumi, Miko, Salome, Subaru, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
123x: Hololive
55x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
20x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
13x: Miko
12x: Kuzuha
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Okayu
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mori, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

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>> No.27775903

>>27775850
he's baiting

>> No.27775912

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NswPv5U7N-Y
This would have been gold any other day
but not today

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Silver : https://youtu.be/NswPv5U7N-Y

>> No.27775920

>>27775796
>Conveniently not showing the 20K VIEWERS WATCHING SUBARU PLAY A JRPG
KYS
Also there's a soft-cap of ~ 40-50k viewers that are available at this timeslot for JP, and between these 4 + Subaru, they're maxed out.

>> No.27775934

Ah yes, it's that time of the year. Last year, I was suspicious of Koshien numbers but I played it off as tourists, but now, vrabi has cross view chatters, I could finally prove that a certain percentage maybe 30-40% of the total ccv of koshien viewers are farms. Salome also helps in this case, since if I find that the majority of the viewers for a captain's stream is salome's, then I'd conclude it to be farms.

The reason in this is that it should always be the streamer's viewers being the majority, not other livers. I've seen Salome viewers at the top too many times in another liver's big streams, even more so masaru and sango who shouldn't logically be there. Also I wanna prove this theory,

>If it's sponsored, Anycolor uses a % of the money to buy farms to prop up numbers since the propped numbers are investments for more sponsorships

>> No.27775955

>>27775912
Should have done this yesterday.

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>>27775753
>Final /news/ roundup for 08-07-2022
>>27736838

Recent clip numbers
>>27725089
>>27725132
>>27725327
>>27725403

>> No.27775968
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What is the likelihood that the reason HoloEarth is a survival crafting game is because Fubuki and her faction invested millions of dollars into it? According to some of the income data posted here they should be filthy rich, wouldn't be that weird for them to reinvest in their company/getting their own projects worked on, especially since Aqua went as far as producing her own VN with herself as the main heroine.

>> No.27775972

>>27775915
I want to kiss this leech's thighs.

>> No.27776018

>>27775955
I can see the Holo monthly slip already

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>> No.27776047

>>27776024
What the fuck?

>> No.27776049
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>>27775796
it's normal numbers for them, being close to the 10k line on median means plenty of sub 10k streams, also, stop playing rpgs for the love of god, the genre with the stupidest fans who think everyone wants to watch their shitty grinds

>> No.27776062

>>27775955
Yesterday was meant to be PekoMari Rust though. It’s just you know with Abe and all.

>> No.27776071

>>27776024
oh shit
its finally happening

>> No.27776082

>>27776024
Holy shit finally

>> No.27776101

>>27775968
Is Fubuki really that interested in large world survival crafting? I figured she would make a Phasmophobia ripoff.

>> No.27776128

>>27776024
>on miori's channel
>no bae announcement
5k max

>> No.27776129

>>27775934
Is this a pasta?

>> No.27776134

>>27776024
Moon Jelly and Miori for En3

>> No.27776142
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Thoughts? Miori deconfirmed from EN3?

>> No.27776187

>>27776142
>Miori deconfirmed from EN3?
EN4 more likely

>> No.27776199

>>27776142
Koyori exists

>> No.27776232

>>27776049
They don't have a lot of sub 10k though.

>> No.27776242

>>27776101
Just wait, HoloEarth will have fucking ghost hunting minigames in it or something. Though yes she is fucking in love with survival crafting games, she loved Minecraft, Craftopia, and Ark enough to play all of them off stream, she will almost certainly play Palworld and grind that shit like she did Pokemon.

>> No.27776252

>>27776199
Oh fuck. En3 is still on the table

>> No.27776290

>>27776199
>>27776252
what does koyori have to do with this? did she collab with holos as an indie or something?

>> No.27776309

>>27776290
she did collabs with subaru and sora i think?

>> No.27776333

>>27776290
Yes, and not long before she joined Holox if my timeline isn't too fucked.

>> No.27776350

>>27776232
no one is saying they don't, what i meant is median is a middle point, so someone on the 10-12k range of median will have plenty below it

>> No.27776392

>>27776309
wrong holox, koyori collabed with mel and azki, subaru was iroha

>> No.27776412

>>27776129
Nope, I really have my suspicion since last year. During koshien, there were 30 minutes breaks and all and the numbers dropped from 147-160k to 75-90k, but that's a little bit too high. I thought it was a coincidence but It continued for the rest of the remaining breaks that happened. I don't have any hard evidence or anything to observe it at that time like vnuma was dead, vrabi didnt exist so I left it up to fate.

>> No.27776420

Every Shuba Tales stream has peaked above 30k but this one isn't looking like it'll get even close. What happened to the Subatomos?

>> No.27776462

>>27776392
oh yeah it was iroha. got them mixed up

>> No.27776464

>>27776420
Game isn't as popular probably

>> No.27776482

>>27776420
retard

>> No.27776552

>your oshi starts playing a long rpg that kills her numbers
is this how kfp feel all the time

>> No.27776653

>>27776412
Oh yeah, now that you mentioned it that was a bit fishy indeed.

>> No.27776663

>>27776420
>30k
dude half of those were with the Z bug
she will just Z another 30k and people will think she's good or something while it's not

>> No.27776730

>>27776142
Not really excited, EN2 couldn't carried the hype of Myth and Bae is the weakest member of the group. EN3 needs some superstars who can take off the entire brand, not just someone eating on the pre-existing fanbase of Myth.

>> No.27776761

https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1545637376365449216

Bae collab with ... Who?

>> No.27776777

>>27776552
20k is something a lot of ENfags want to have anon.

>> No.27776790

>>27776761
her old **holo genmate

>> No.27776802
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* YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY *

>19,070: Gura (Hololive)
>10,861: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,642: Sana (Hololive)
>9,646: Ike (Nijisanji)
>6,967: Vox (Nijisanji)
>6,917: Mori (Hololive)
>6,273: Luca (Nijisanji)
>5,688: Uki (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY

1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)
2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)
3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
5. Gura (Hololive) - 20,406 (Chatting stream)
6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday Concert)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 7
Nijisanji - 1
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
3x: Gura
2x: Mumei
1x: Ina, Luca, Kiara

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
Gura: 15
Mumei: 13
Kiara: 9
Vox: 7
Ina: 6
Luca: 5
Baelz: 4
Mysta: 4
Shu: 3
Uki: 3
IRyS: 1
Amelia: 1
Sana: 1

>> No.27776960

>>27776730
>EN3 needs some superstars who can take off the entire brand
They don't need superstars they need stream monsters. 5 Stream monsters would improve the EN branch tremendously. Don't get me wrong, if they can recruit a big name superstar that's also a stream monster that would be great, but how many of them still exists.

>> No.27776965

>>27776761
Old coworker from MyHoloTV. Split from them with Bae and went to Tsunderia for a while before jumping off that sinking ship and going indie.

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>>27776663

>> No.27777035
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Holy shit, MonHun strong this season or what?

>> No.27777045

>>27776960
>5
Too many, unless you mean for them to do 24-hour coverage
Heck, I'll take ONE so we don't end up with no one EVER streaming during prime-time when Gura is off and no one else is willing to just guerilla snipe the slot.

>> No.27777081

>>27776965
Did she buy the model after being graduated, they let her keep it or it was originally her model and joined with it?

>> No.27777083

>>27776142
Amazing. I'm hype as hell.

>> No.27777099

>>27777035
if there's more than 2 holos playing it, their numbers go to shit, it's not strong enough, but if you're a low mid/low, finding an empty spot for it guarantees you good numbers

>> No.27777104

>>27777035
Just released xpac, and Hime is a pretty big MH autist and gets really buffed by it, just like how Aki gets buffed heavily by ARK.

>> No.27777147

>>27777099
I mean, Luna and Lui are playing now at 9k and (almost) 8k which are good numbers for both

>> No.27777169

>>27777099
>>27777104
My point it is that it is buffing VSPO into 10k as well

>> No.27777191

>>27777147
that's why i said more than 2 anon, the other day there were like 5 playing it and it was a shitshow

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Sorry Luna, 10k is for grownups

>> No.27777241

>>27777081
Unknown if she bought the rights, but she retained them as she continued independently as Miori, unlike her genmates.

>> No.27777255

>>27777169
Nose gets her median numbers (6k) playing fucking Valorant. Not too surprising that with a buff game she goes to 10k (Also it's on the title that its her first Monhun game, so another buff)

>> No.27777294

>>27776663
another day another lies kek

>> No.27777303

>>27776802
>Sana: 1
Is that the first medal that Sana has gotten?

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>>27775810
LOL

>> No.27777351

>>27777255
You would expect a FPS centered chuuba get strong numbers with FPS. This is showing how strong VSPO is getting with general entertainment as well, good display of growth for them

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>>27777294
What do you expect?

>> No.27777422
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It’s coming: >>27777777

In the off chance of a self GET, JunsGang for life
>flashes Fubuki kon kon hand sign

>> No.27777457

>>27777081
She kept the model from MyHolo and kept the rights when she joined Tsunderia

>> No.27777525
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So Tsukasa is an Honorary Niji?

>> No.27777544

>>27777525
he was literally part of niji for some time

>> No.27777548

>>27777525
He used to be, but he's not anymore.

>> No.27777572

>>27777045
>5
>Too many
Five monsters would 'complete' the branch.

>> No.27777581

>>27777525
He was a “Niji Network” associate before they done away with it because it was causing them more hassle than it was worth.
He’s on last years too, no?

>> No.27777584

>>27777525
Why no invite vox? With him would get 200k stream

>> No.27777620

>>27777422
some bot user is going to take it

>> No.27777619

Kaela's aiming for the 30 min goal in Holocure, so there might be some good results there

>> No.27777650

>>27777525
Man, seeing the difference in male models between Niji and Holostars makes me sad

>> No.27777666

>>27777619
Just use irys / ina

>> No.27777667

>>27777572
Realistically, the branch won't be 'complete' until it hits 4 generations. ~20 people is enough to support a full box

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>> No.27777766

M O S T
I N F L U E N T I A L
T H R E A D

>> No.27777828

Salome is botted

>> No.27777837

>Luna 10K GETTO

>> No.27777870

>>27777422
>play dk with okayu get
i'll take it

>> No.27777907
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All you concernfags can shut up now.
This is her decision.

>> No.27777910

>>27777525
Hey look. Nijisanji milking the same shit every single year. An organization that is absolutely creatively bankrupt.

>> No.27777951

>>27777907
no, you see, she's making the choice i don't like, and that means she's not free

>> No.27777959

Visited the horni thread, I can't comprehend the people who thinks salome is sexy

>> No.27777992

>>27777951
This, the only real choices are the ones which agree with my opinion.

>> No.27778005

>>27775753
Why the fuck does her top half look so disconnected from her lower half?

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>>27775753
3.0 soon

>> No.27778031
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20~25 minutes relay stream, KEK.
my prediction
fbk 25k
aki 20k
mel 15k
matsuri 15k
haachama 15k

>> No.27778050

>>27777081
she bought it from them

>> No.27778087

>>27778006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kVz6p-3vQc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQu14VUVFx4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiFOcZA6QvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k98fv5E-zE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbpFeRdqjg

>> No.27778107

>>27777907
>kanata, you might not be an annoyance for everybody. think about it yourself but make sure to not bring problems to the others
t. cover

>> No.27778123

>>27778031
They'll be dumb to not use the raid feature, I expect more people to stick around

>> No.27778124

>>27778031
You're retarded, none of them will break 15k. Only Fubuki and Haato will even have more than 10k, those whores are useless

>> No.27778137

>>27778031
>Fubuki first
>They won't raid the next member
don't expect big numbers, the gen1 schizo will be eating good today
At least we are getting more "le sad cat" posts

>> No.27778181

it's fucking new tech, at least one of them has to hit 30k, probably foobs

>> No.27778207

>>27778181
No one cares about your shitty old and busted gen1 whores

>> No.27778291

>>27778124
Betting on 25k, at least on Fubuki, she's basically showing what everyone else will too.

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>>27778087
Right on

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>>27778087
Hachamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>> No.27778344

>>27778207
i care anon, i jack off to fubuki on the regular

>> No.27778367

>>27778207
Hey man I also don't care about your opinion, but you don't see me saying that out loud...oh wait.

>> No.27778372

>>27777951
This. What she said doesn't fit with the voice inside my head so she is lying.

>> No.27778382

>>27778325
that's how a relay works anon... the last one is called the anchor...

>> No.27778430

>>27778295
Yagoo please give your secret daughter another costume and 3D already

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>>27778087
SHIT BLINKING EARS
PRE-SELECTED MOVES
CAN'T PIN OBJECTS
SHIT FACETRACK
DERP BLINKING EYES

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.27778464

>>27777723
>coco only 2k
weird considering it would have some collector value

>> No.27778465

>>27771594 #
>a literal one EN streamer BTFO hololive and nijisanji's annual financial reports
JPsharts are so cocky they don't realize that their oshis are just tiny ants compared to them LMAO

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>>27778464
Anon...

>> No.27778490

>he posted it again after getting no replies
here's a consolation half (you)

>> No.27778513

Wow, she's really just reusing old bait while linking to the last thread? That's low effort

>> No.27778537

>>27778482
yeah its still lower than i expected but i fucked up

>> No.27778550

Why doesn't Hololive have a Koshien?

>> No.27778583

>>27778465
OH NO NO NO WHAT HAPPENED JPBROS I THOUGHT PEGORA IS MAKING MILLIONS BUT WHY'S THIS ""EN"" STREAMER IS CONSTANTLY GETTING 1.5M PER MONTH HOLY SHIT

>> No.27778598

>>27778550
why did your mom didn't pick you up as a kid?

>> No.27778612

>>27778465
>ignoring that that’s revenue and not profit
>ignoring her stating she has a corporate team of her own
>ignoring most of that money comes from porn not her streaming

>> No.27778634

>>27778598
Kek murdered!

>> No.27778635

>>27778446
out of all the girls I would want to see with this, it's Mr Koro

>> No.27778646

>>27778612
>taking cheap bait

>> No.27778655

>>27778612
why do hololive members don't do porn? i mean, it's not like i want it or anything

>> No.27778690

>>27778550
Low interests from the girls since you need a lot of people for it to work. No permission from Konami as well.

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Nijinumbers...

>> No.27778699

>>27778655
That would kill the doujin market. Seiso Idols get more porn made for them than whores can ever produce through their own efforts. If you make your own porn then there will be no fan creation of porn for you

>> No.27778705

>>27777572
5 streaming monsters would fill up the hours, but imo that can wait until 4th gen. EN needs coordinators more than THAT many streaming monsters.
1-2 who can pull the hours like Koyori/Kaela, 1-2 coordinators to tard-wrangle the girls (that WON'T drag them to god-forsaken EU hours ala Kiara) with the other slots filled with either non-streaming skills or otherwise that don't end up interfering too much with streaming.

>> No.27778727
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27778727

>>27778635
Fuck you!
She had blinking ears on her dog form but she already fixed it.
I love how demanding she is.

>> No.27778736

>>27778694
>Ex-KR
thats probably good numbers for her, idk

>> No.27778742

>>27778107
>He described the typical Japanese mindset

>> No.27778748

>>27778690
Setting aside the lack of interest, are there no other baseball games they could do?

>> No.27778756

>>27778550
Niji asked konami to blocked the permission so they could monopolized it

>> No.27778778

>>27778655
meh, I don't want that from the girls, erolive is enough for me with them, no need to go full whore, it's the gap which makes it more salacious

>> No.27778795

>>27778655
>why don’t they kill their current model for a oversaturated niche they have no guarantee of success in that financial institutions won’t touch to the point that OnlyFans nearly got rid of all porn to protect itself from PayPal cutting it off?

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Bae gonna collab with her exGenmate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmAIBN5QWp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmAIBN5QWp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmAIBN5QWp0

>> No.27778822

why do nerds always reply seriously to jokes

>> No.27778839
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>>27778465
pekora
>$1m on her birthday thru merch
your regular EN streamer
>casually $1.5m per month
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!! NOT LIKE THIS JPSHARTS!!!!

>> No.27778864

>>27778742
Unironically this. Half the time when western people complain about Idol Culture or whatever on Twitter, they're mostly just complaining about Japanese culture in general. Sometimes people even go as far as to say Japanese Culture itself is bad, like retards

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>>27777422
>okayu will never get gold so I can fill all the imageslots with cat lewds

>> No.27778892

>>27778839
now post en merch numbers

>> No.27778929

>>27778742
Yes, this means she had no choice to begin with.
Just do whatever your boss says.

>> No.27778991

>>27778822
Because the perennial shitposters in this thread pretend they're retards while actually being even bigger retards

>> No.27778995

>>27778929
Like the rest of the world?

>> No.27778999

>>27776142
What's Miori's streaming style, any analogy to other chuuba?

>> No.27779002

>>27778892
blame reddit

>> No.27779021

>>27778727
Well that or her sovl live 2D vrs 1.0 where her eyes never closed

>> No.27779117

>>27778655
Realistically speaking, is porn even profitable?

>> No.27779131

>>27778465
>Cumbuds so mindbroken by the fact that no one is falling for their cull ranting that they are now using twitch titty streamers streamers to cope

Now that's hilarious, keep it up guys, you're doing great

>> No.27779153

>>27778839
they kept bragging about rushia's $3m on SCs but that's just 2 months worth of amouranth's income LMAOOO

>> No.27779172

>>27779117
anon? people wouldn't degrade themselves like that if it weren't

>> No.27779178

>>27779117
Porn is very profitable, because it is evergreen content that can be sold again and again infinitely to massive groups of people, it's just bad business because the institutions that rule the world want to destroy it

>> No.27779231

Why do shitposters reply to themselves?

>> No.27779271

Hololive numbers are down today. I wonder if it has to do with the Abe Assassination.

>> No.27779276

>>27779231
human psychology, people are more likely to reply to a post when they aren't the first reply

>> No.27779288

>>27779178
Realistically speaking, who the fuck pays for porn?

>> No.27779298

>>27779153
>almost 3 years in hololive
>earned just $3m
>while the EN streamer is getting it in just 2 months
this is so unreal...

>> No.27779318

>>27779271
i don't know what the fuck are you guys talking about, every single stream is in normal range, except for shuba that's a bit low

>> No.27779322

>>27779288
Depends if it has nipple torture or not

>> No.27779336

Oh my god stop replying to yourself, you couldn't be more obvious

>> No.27779359

Speaking of Miori, who are the most promising Tsunderia/MyHoloTV/Prism Project vtubers who will be called up to the Majors?

>> No.27779395

Very organic conversation going on here... I'm as a lurker and an ESL just want to say... (You) looks pathetic.

>> No.27779406

>>27779271
Honestly I still feel like it's a little bit callous of Nijisanji to hold Koshien right after a previous PM was assassinated. Feels like something that would be said as a joke if it weren't fucking real

>> No.27779408

>>27779318
Noel and Koyori didn't hit 10k, Kobo barely broke 10k, Ina and Mumei didn't hit 10k. Somethings up.

>> No.27779442

>>27779359
Pomu

>> No.27779454

>>27779359
I sure hope it is the OG MyHoloTV cutie vampire.

>> No.27779458

>>27779298
now that explains why YT and Twitch are paying EN streamers for $30m-$100m to just stay on their platform... how can we even compete jpbros? I'm losing hope.....

>> No.27779486

>>27779408
>noel and koyori
dude, look at their fucking numbers in more detail before talking, noel has gotten 7-8ks on saturdays rpgs plenty before including this very own game, koyori has gotten as low as fucking 4.4k on yakuza kiwami during gameplay
weekend rpgs fucking suck

>> No.27779529

Someone please explain to me why Ado is so huge, I don't get it

>> No.27779588

>>27779529
Me too. 90% of her songs sucks, basically ear rape.

>> No.27779602
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Isegye are upgrading stuff to keep up with the competition. Well at least that's what it looks like. Overall new model looks pretty nice.

>> No.27779619

>>27778465
>>27778839
>ENshart so desperate they resort to literal porn streamer completely separated from the vtuber world
Ok retard *points at the hundred of channels with over 10million subs

>> No.27779626

>>27779486 (me)
like im actually fucking mad they keep doing them, because literally all of them were copying peko and she got fucking shit as well, most of her dq streams were sub 25k and when miko was copying her she was sub 20k for almost all of them, just stop

>> No.27779669

>>27779458
once Cover corp found out about this they'll immediately disband the JP branch because of how little money they bring to the company then they'll just focus on EN streamers to increase their revenue to 100000%

>> No.27779687

>>27779529
I believe it to be because muh rebellious attitude she portrays in songs, young people have always swallowed that stuff up.

>> No.27779710

>>27779669
Here's your (you)
Now shut up already

>> No.27779721

>>27779602
This is the first time i have ever seen what one of them looks like despite talking about their numbers from time to time, cute.

>> No.27779725

>>27779626
Saturday is the break day for them to play whatever game they like no matter the debuffs.

>> No.27779742

>>27779669
can you fucking stop already, everyone sees what you're doing, go waste people's time somewhere else

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>>27779721
This is a new model. Before they just used bought VRChat models. Think they might have been pressured into doing so by the increasing competition in the kr vtuber scene.

>> No.27779806

https://youtu.be/u5_R0ouqKDA
Kobo's getting 200k in 5 days on fan edit covers.
Nothing close to Gura, Suisei, or Noel, but pretty up there.
Better than many official covers.

>> No.27779811

>>27779725
>Saturday is the break day
Break day suppose to mean "no streams"
By the way some of the girl treat their streaming job like office job with 2 days off per week. Unacceptable.

>> No.27779856

Do anyone here know what is the technology of live2d hand movement? How come holo and niji don't have them? Is it that expensive or they deem it unnecessary?

>> No.27779934

Is there a single person you can think of that could be part of StarsEN and it would guarantee their success?

>> No.27779948

>>27779529
The short explanation is her Bocca della Verita cover, despite it not really being her defining famous thing (Rabu Ka? is more popular, apparently). It's basically the summary of everything that makes her good and unique as an utaite, but will also immediately put you off if you're not into that. It also helps if you're into hard rock/metal.

>> No.27779950

>>27779934
Assmongol

>> No.27779978

>>27779811
Sometimes they just want to play the game they like with the fans

>> No.27780002

>>27779856
Its unnecessary.

>> No.27780023

>>27779856
Same as hair movement, it's done piece by piece but it needs even more coordination. Just a menial job for the illustrator and rigger that would then need to be applied for every model.
Too much work, that takes too long and not worth it. Better to have scene animation or stands for hands.
3.0 apparently has it because the live2D environments are getting better at it, but it will be nothing like full movement in the 3D models.

>> No.27780048

>>27777525
Everyone in that picture will graduate before years end.

>> No.27780065

>>27779856
It's just really hard, and not really worth it unless you're the industry leader and you want to push the envelope of what's possible. Consider that face tracking requires a phone camera centered on your face, not imagine this; where will you point that camera to capture hand movement? Will you make hand motion controls fully manual? Simply add 3 cameras and somehow link the data the retrieve together? It's very complicated

>> No.27780108

>>27780048
Unless Nijisanji is planning an accelerating their graduations they will take 10 months until everyone in that picture has graduated.

>> No.27780129
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27780129

Does Hololive give +10 bonus points when selecting new idols if the idol is asian?


Ina Korean
Kronii Korean
Bae Chinese
Sana Malayasian
Kson Japanese
Irys Japanese

>> No.27780136

>>27780023
>>27780065
Hachi uses it, even though her main shtick is singing and singing only.

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>>27779934
Nyanners and Mousey's boyfriends.
Also, Hime's husband.

>> No.27780176

>>27780129
Wait Bae is Chinese? She doesn't sound like one. Sana is Malaysian? Can't see it either.

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>>27779934

>> No.27780201

>>27780176
Atleast she speaks cantonese to her mother

>> No.27780236

>>27780136
Anon...Hachi has 3D models...

I don't know how you haven't noticed this yourself, with the spinning camera and the 3Dness

>> No.27780253

>>27780176
She's almost certainly 1st/2nd gen, born and raised in Aus most likely based on her accent.

>> No.27780289

>>27780236
Wait, I always thought the spinning environment is just fancy live2D. It really doesn't feel like 3D though with only her head moving.

>> No.27780290

>>27779856
same tech they used to face tracking. just web/phonecam and let opencv or other cv library do the hardwork of translating the camera output into full skeletal model.
the hard part is the l2d rigging. now you have to model fingers, hand, and arm. might even have to redo the body rigging to make it look right. it's a lot easier to use a 3d model, hence why they put that feature into the home3d first.

>> No.27780316

>>27780253
she's definitely second gen, no way a first gen immigrant would pick up the accent like that

>> No.27780327

Does anyone think Hololive will blow this month's lead? Lie:Verse is getting crazy medua coverage right now.

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>>27779934

>> No.27780345

>>27780327
oh shit, new intern dropped

>> No.27780368

>>27779934
cgpgrey but he hates streaming

>> No.27780420

>>27779934
Why not just get Ssethtzeentach? He has streaming experience.

>> No.27780421

>>27780368
CGPgrey already has his own company and he's not giving it up just to larp as an idol with hololive.
Same deal with >>27780336
you want independent creators, not people who've turned their online content into their own business

>> No.27780453

>>27780421
he's a good singer. dunno about his dance moves.

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>>27780368
>>27780336
not asian enough

>> No.27780503

>>27779934
Forsen
His chat is as hayai as Pekora's. Now only he has to play gachimuchi every stream.

>> No.27780506

>>27780420
Can he be convinced to become an anime character though?

>> No.27780515

>>27780503
but anon, forsen is already gura

>> No.27780519

>>27780420
because he's going to go "nigger nigger nigger" in his first stream

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Pre-primetime /news/ update for 09-07-2022
> Nijisanji Koshien draft stream starts at 7pm JST (https://youtu.be/6vF87rFYmR4).).
> NijiEN sponsored to play Nier collab content in "Punishing : Gray Raven" (https://twitter.com/PGR_GLOBAL/status/1545256361767817218).).
> Bae offcollab Karaoke with Miori Celesta tomorrow (https://twitter.com/mioricelesta/status/1545636402502635520, https://youtu.be/HmAIBN5QWp0).). wink wink
> Hololive Gen1 Live2D 3.0 reveal relay starts at 7:30pm JST (https://youtu.be/7kVz6p-3vQc, https://youtu.be/eQu14VUVFx4, https://youtu.be/KiFOcZA6QvQ, https://youtu.be/8k98fv5E-zE, https://youtu.be/0qbpFeRdqjg).).

Previous : >>27736838

>> No.27780551

you guys are not gonna get half a mill+ subs youtubers into fucking starsEN

>> No.27780554
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>>27780506
isn't he already an anime character?

>> No.27780581

>>27780253
>>27780316
I am not asking for roommate dox here for the record, janitor. But I wanna ask - is there a solid confirmation that she is a chink?

>> No.27780613

>>27780515
But where is the plugDJ?

>> No.27780643

>>27780613
>plugdj
old forsen...

>> No.27780668

>>27780519
I mean Mori and Miko were fine, so it should be ok.
>>27780506
He played Evenicle and other anime shit, he'd have no problem using an anime avatar.

>> No.27780673

>>27780535
Hold on, whose lewds are >we posting if Niji Koshien takes gold? There’s multiple people involved there

>> No.27780680

>>27780551
At this point it's fair to question if there will be a starsEN at all.

>> No.27780701

>>27776024
Aww, that's sweet.

>> No.27780714

What is with Niji's naming? Lie:Verse? Pronounce same as livers? Liver? As in the organ? They called their streamers as livers? Don't they know all of these sound super iffy in English?

>> No.27780715

>>27780551
Honestly, why not? It's not like they have to stop using their other channel. Many Holos have their own channels outside of hololive, in Noel's case more popular

>> No.27780723

>>27780673
Pekora

>> No.27780730

>>27780680
i hope not, maybe they'll finally realize it's a bad idea, overturn yagoo and pressure the jp branch to graduate

>> No.27780780

>>27780714
Nijisanji literally requires you to not speak english to be part of the staff in their main branch

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>>27780673
Abe. There will only be Abe for the rest of the month.

>> No.27780828

>>27780799
Only if a non-holo gets gold

>> No.27780870

>>27780129
Deja vu? I've seen this post weeks/ months ago? Or do I need meds?

>> No.27780908

>>27780870
anon, you're describing like half this thread

>> No.27780930

>>27780870
>weeks/ months ago
you mean yesterday

>> No.27780933

>>27776142
Idk who Miori is. But I'm a simple man: I see holo, I watch.

>> No.27780958

>>27780129
>Sana
>Malaysian
No wonder she is so lazy.

>> No.27781054

Honestly, it would be really fucking funny to me if Koshien beats Ludwig's Mogul Money which had fucking xQc, Pokemane, and Sykkuno there, in front of a live audience, which peaked at 146k CCV.

At that point it would be Nijisanji and Vtubers in general mogging the combination of both Twitch and Youtube's golden boys, and when framed in that light, I think I'd be okay with Nijisanji taking gold today.

>> No.27781103

>>27780673
anyone who's in the collab usually.

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>>27781054
>it would be really fucking funny to me if Koshien beats Ludwig's Mogul Money
>146k
It would be weird if it didn’t beat considering last years beat 138k

>> No.27781254

>>27780129
>Sana malaysian
Well... Her RM is actually half ID, but since shes lazy af then yes malay can have it

>> No.27781262

>>27780581
Zhang ( reserve the slur for those that deserve it lest you wear it out) and yes, besides the fact that she was speaking canto on stream (which usually means her parents came from HK or parts of China that weren't so keen on the current regime before they got out of China).

>> No.27781307

>>27781054
>146k
Small fry

>> No.27781346

>>27781248
Has there been signs of Nijisanjis roof actually increasing at all this last year?

>> No.27781377

>>27781346
someone like last year i think? was keeping up a table with their event numbers, but i think they stopped posting after ccvid

>> No.27781416

>>27781248
So with 138k, what do we think this year will get? 150-160k?

>> No.27781425

I can't fucking wait to grudgepost every single one of you faggots when they fail tk break 15k, and not only that but haachama will overlap VS botan who will fucking kill her tourist audience since she's the last one.
The only one who has a chance is fubuki really and BARELY at that

>> No.27781490

>>27781425
why are you setting up grudgeposts against yourself
you could be using this time to do your reps

>> No.27781516

>>27779934
look it up, his name is Jae, he is canadian-korean, was a member of popular kpop band called Day6, got nice voice and nice songs, group got disbanded for various reasons, and now he become a twitch streamer. He was on hiatus since few months ago. I know this is a reach but you know.. knowing his idol and twitch streamer background, starsEN sounds plausible

>> No.27781545

>>27781490
Look at this retard, that failure of a Gen could never do something right.
They should've used people who actually matter for this, not those busted old menheras and hags

>> No.27781570

>>27781516
Isn't he joining 88rising iirc

>> No.27781590

>>27781545
no, like seriously man, are you ok, you don't sound ok

>> No.27781597

>>27779934
Sora the troll

>> No.27781599

>>27781054
what? 146k only? even laplus solo 3d passed 157k+

>> No.27781647

>>27781570
he is a honorary DPR member only on 88rising

>> No.27781690

>>27781590
Of course I'm not okay, why would they waste big numbers potential on a 5 retarded whores who will barely use this, the only ones who MAY use it are matusri and maybe fubuki, the rest simply fucking won't.
Why didn't they give this to those who actually deserve it like Gen 4 or Gen 5? Ones who'll bring actually good numbers because there ARE fans of them unlike that garbage gen that's barely scraping by and should be graduated immediately.

>> No.27781694

>>27779934
Probably Random too right? That ogre Vtuber guy, he seemed very genuine on his Vtubing activities, suddenly though he just bailed with a twitter message saying be was graduating.

>> No.27781699

>>27781599
People repeat over and over again that Vtubers are a niche, but they never bring up that said niche is actually larger than most of the biggest streamers in the world outside of people like Ibai and Asmongold.

>> No.27781713

>>27781597
Isn't his oshi haato? I can see why he'd be good

>> No.27781736

>>27781690
Please stop pretending to be a schizo, you’ll never get acknowledged and will always be the “Millhouse is not a meme” of the category.

>> No.27781757

>>27781690
you're trying way too hard, which is why i asked, this is not believable, so i ask the question again, are you ok

>> No.27781778

>>27781690
>Newfagg chama who dont understand nips muh seniority
Bruh, after this maybe gen 2 will get it just calm fcker
And then flow in to holox to en/id or worse
Id & en wont get it

>> No.27781781

>>27781690
>bring good numbers
>gen5
literally who? they're so irrelevant that they compete the gen1 on which group many people don't know most

>> No.27781804

>>27781516
nah, the guy seems to have been burned badly by the kpop-idol industry. Why would he go back into a similar field? Sure, Cover isn't Jyp, but it's still has the facade of running idols.

>> No.27781807

So Laplus really likes Shadowverse or is she just doing her job?

>> No.27781812

>>27781781
>t.gen5 Schizo
Botan bring in nice number
The same with polka
Nene is an actual idol
>Lamy is mother of all, the loving one, the GFE, must. Protect.

>> No.27781816

>>27781736
>>27781757
Of course you're going to think that I'm "pretending to be a schizo" because this is hitting way Cloe to home for you.
I'll let you why you think this, because you actually do believe it deep down in you but you refuse to accept it, hololive jp's first Gen is a failure through and through in every way, shape and form.
These aren't schizo ramblings, these are hard truths and I'm absolutely willing to prove it at least numbers-wise.

>> No.27781833

>>27781781
Gen 5 wouldn't be irrelevant if they actually have 5 people. That succubus is a very good singer and not a hag unlike most of hololive, has potential to ace all of the idol stuff too.

>> No.27781857

>>27781781
Wait until botan's VS mogs the fuck out of haachama's reveal, faggot.
Gen 1 is at the literal bottom of the barrel, you simple can't get lower than that.
They're genuinely maybe even slightly lower than ID1

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>>27780551
Well this 3mil+ sub youtuber just announced graduation and planning to start a new gaming channel............. OR???

>> No.27781873

>>27781816
Sorry mate, lots of text but you lack what’s needed to be a true schizo. Maybe if you stop taking your meds for a while…

>> No.27781910

>>27781807
Both.

>> No.27781919

>>27781699
Yes but is it bigger than JBP, DW, LWC bunch though?

>> No.27781941

>>27781857
>leaning to buff stream to get good numbers
yeah retard even ID would get good numbers playing holocure or VS, other than that she's just as irrelevant as her genmates.

>> No.27781949

>>27780613
>numberfag aware of djplug
jesus, dont tell me you lurk his off chat

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>>27781858
fuck, I'm gonna have to watch starts, aren't I?

>> No.27781955
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>imagine **FAILING** to be a schizo in a schizo thread and be told to **stop** taking meds
That gotta sting!

>> No.27781963

>>27777910
Or its just a fan favorite tradition? You guys get mad over the weirdest things.

>> No.27781973

>>27781949
I am OG forsenboy. I remember his miracle rogue.

>> No.27781974

>>27781941
>not even buff streams would get Gen 1 good numbers
You're telling me that jew tech reveal isn't buff content? Fucking retard.
>>27781873
Sad cope, really sad cope

>> No.27781989

>>27781858
>A slav doing idol things
Never crossed my mind but it would be interesting to see

>> No.27782017
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>>27781974
>that jew tech reveal

>> No.27782038

>>27779602
I hope lilpa's update looks good

>> No.27782065

>>27781974
i don't fucking care about gen1 you idiot.
knowing that you believe gen5 are some of mythical beings already proved that you're a delusional faggot huffing some indescribable grass.

>> No.27782082

>M-MUH SCHIZO
This is the numbers thread, where we talk about numbers, where we love big numbers and hate ones who fumble and slip.
This had potential but wasted on literal whos like Gen 1, and every single number backs that, subs, averages, streaming time, ccv, likes, VODs, even Twitter interactions.
>y-you're trying to hard!
(You)re the one who's coping so fucking hard to the point where you think stating facts is someone trying to be a schizo

>> No.27782114

lol

>> No.27782116

>>27782065
When the fuck did I say they were mythical? They're just a normal Gen, that's likes and heaps better than gen 1.
Goes to show how fucking garbage that 1st gen really is

>> No.27782133

>>27781949
I did and made a weeb pyramid at one point. I remember pajlada made points for watching long before twitch implemented their channel point, and I am able to play the scam roullete which eat all my points if I lose and give me 1.7x points if I win.

>> No.27782135

>>27782082
you're fucking stupid

>> No.27782174

>>27782135
Prove it, prove to me that I'm stupid and that the things I say are nothing more than schizo ramblings, PLEASE do try and shut me up if you can

>> No.27782190

>>27780673
I'll be posting Nui of course

>> No.27782193

>>27782082
Anon, people aren’t even reading your walls of text.
They see the first few words, think
>oh, it’s that retard preventing to be a schizo in a misguided search for internet clout
and ignore or, at most, give you a pity (you) calling you a retard

>> No.27782213

>>27781989
where's my hard bass idol?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIjKijhv1OU

>> No.27782232

>>27782174
Nta but you're stupid

>> No.27782239

>>27782082
I like all numbers, not just big numbers

>> No.27782241

>>27782174
why are you so stupid

>> No.27782245

Fuck off really what's your goal? It's not even funny with the 5 gen schizio at least you can feel the hatred and seed that gen 5 cause him you're just larping as moron with gen 1 because? Just because.

>> No.27782261

>>27782193
>if I ignore it, it doesn't exist
The absolute state of gen 1 apologists.

>> No.27782269

>>27781919
Who?

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>> No.27782320

>>27782245
>if you're not a retard for us to laugh at you're not welcome here
kek what sort of retardation is this? Maybe because I don't hate them? I just want them gone because the shit invested in them could be invested in wya better places, this is for the betterment of cover overall, not because I have some dumb grudge against them like the Gen 5 retard.
All this is telling me is that you just want to close your eyes and ears and ignore the facts right in front of you, what a sad numberfag you are

>> No.27782324

>>27782269
Jordan Peterson

>> No.27782327

>>27782245
>with the 5 gen schizio at least you can feel the hatred
Same with the MarineSchizo, those guys are “barneyfag” tier of hatred and derangement.
Is this what the internet became now? Retards trying and failing to pretend to be schizos just for clout?

>> No.27782346

>>27781973
>>27782133
i see at least one of you fags everywhere i go, either i underestimate old forsens popularity or its autism magic

>> No.27782353

>>27782324
I've been following flesh streamers for 10 years and I have no fucking idea who that is

>> No.27782380

>>27782346
Forsen-fans are ironic weebs or pretend to be one. So you probably browse a lot of content related to ironic weebs, like vtubing.
On a side note, Forsen is a numberfag too.

>> No.27782455

>>27782320
ok, i'll explain it to you once so you shut up already, there's this thing called public perception, you probably have heard of it, and it matters tremendously to numbers, because bad public perception scares tourists off
wanna know what tars public perception in cultures like japan? disrespecting the people that put in the work before you
it's literally the entire reason for the senpai/kouhai dynamic to exist
so no, cover is not gonna get rid of gen1, you can fuck off now

>> No.27782491

Who is this retard that keeps trying to get people to hate on Gen1? Is he European? He doesn't give off SEAnigger vibes at all....

>> No.27782523

>>27782455
As businesses,
Commielive is such an anomaly. Meritsanji is the proper path.

>> No.27782534

Why didn't Miori just join EN 3 using her profile and bae connection? She could be an EN Rushia if she wanted.

>> No.27782542

>>27782491
zhang. it's a thinly veiled anti-fbk schizo-rp

>> No.27782543

>>27782523
>meritsanji
they literally all get the same bday merch

>> No.27782549

>>27782455
The fact that you think nip fans care about Gen 1 in that capacity at all goes to show how big of a fucking clipnigger you are, and an EOP one at that.

>> No.27782594

>>27782549
Don't pretend to be Japanese, retard. You're not. Neither will you ever be in your lifetime.

>> No.27782606

>>27782380
it was autism magic after all. no doubt in my mind jewsen is a numberfag, the chances of him lurking around here are higher than 0

>> No.27782638

>>27782542
No way. No, actually, that makes sense.

>> No.27782656

>>27782534
The real question you should be asking is why was bae chosen for EN2 and not Miori.

>> No.27782664

>>27782549
the mere fact that you thought cover should graduate an entire gen makes you unable to make these sort of statements
you fucking donkey

>> No.27782666

>super successful streamers or content creators will jump into homos EN because
right

>> No.27782698

>>27782523
Hololive lives in a walled garden where no one is greedy and everyone gets a piece. But they're still vulnerable to corruption. Theyll be banished from the garden after eating the so called apple of creative freedom

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>>27782664
well, they did it before with HoloCN
maybe that anon is / was HoloCN enjoyer, that's why he wanted an entire gen to be fired by Cover

>> No.27782715

Why is some retard pretending to be a schizo? Are we that bored?

>> No.27782722

>>27782594
>>27782664
No you faggots, it's the fact that the entire Gen can go on an indifinite hiatus and literally no one would care after the next two days.
It goes to show how little people care about them, even single other Gen going on a hiatus would hurt the company except THEM

>> No.27782745

>>27782713
i mean, pretending the whole holoCN situation wasn't an extraordinary circumstance is pretty dumb

>> No.27782759

>>27782666
You don't seem to have a rational perspective on why they wouldn't though.

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Kaela one week off of beating the first map boss

>> No.27782794

>>27782759
You make it sound that joining Homos is a rational decision in the first place.

>> No.27782795

>>27782769
what are the odds on sana leaving after the 1st year anniversary

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dunno if this short peak going to get recorded on tracking site, but Kaela 5k get!

>> No.27782825

>>27782666
>Super successful
Too overqualified. There are thousands of talents who still need that stroke of luck to become successful especially those music streamers who streams for sub 1ks. Under HoloStars, they have a chance to be big. It'd be stupid if they join NijiEN, some talents like Ike, Shu and Yugo aren't spamming songs/covers etc.

>> No.27782836

>>27782795
Non zero, but why would she? Unless the initiative comes from Cover *not* to renew her contract, she can continue being a part timer and making some cash out of playing Nintendo games once a week or so

>> No.27782837

>>27782722
you could pretend to be a schizo with less words and effort

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>>27782822
Holostats got your back

>> No.27782914

>>27777303
>Is that the first medal that Sana has gotten?
Had a look back because I was curious, no it isn't.

https://vrabi.net/daily/2021-11-11

>> No.27782969

https://youtu.be/6vF87rFYmR4
3.8k waiting 1hr 30mins its over holobros..

>> No.27783002

slow day huh?

>> No.27783017

>>27782969
What numbers did last years draft get?

>> No.27783021

>>27782722
source : my mom

>> No.27783035

>>27782969
I mean, yes? If koshien doesn't win every day it's on the menu Riku should fire all the participants. But then again, this might be their send of tour?

>> No.27783047

>>27783017
137k

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what went wrong?

>> No.27783069

>>27783035
Niji still lost July despite getting Edengumi and 2 weeks of koshien

>> No.27783073

>>27783002
Abe died

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>>27783057
THE BEAR MARKET ALWAYS WINS

>> No.27783105

>>27783047
Thanks.
That's the number to beat this year then. Otherwise Koshien is reclining.

>> No.27783107

>>27783069
How

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LMAO

>> No.27783135

Koshien lottery 170k - 190k

>> No.27783166

>>27783130
Hehe, going to be fun when he's forced to buy it anyway.

>> No.27783180

>>27783130
I wanna see the clusterfuck that happens if the court DOES try and force him to accept the deal, just to see what would happen.

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>>27783069
>Edengumi
true giants of the industry

>> No.27783258

>>27783107
Rushia 3D, Subaru BD, Coco grad, Marine outfit, marine BD live, Marine sankisei live etc. There was a lot of 3D lives last year. Niji only had Edengumi on their first week, Koshien captain first streams and Kuzuha.

>> No.27783266

>>27783235
Hey Lain got 12k a few days ago

>> No.27783364

>>27783266
are you talking about the stream that had sasaki, lize and furen on it

>> No.27783371

>>27783130
If twitter really was brought down by this cluster fuck, where can I follow my oshi? Telegram?

>> No.27783407

>>27783371
weibo if you're a nijifan.

>> No.27783467

>>27783069
Wait, seriously? I only got here this year and I always see anons discuss how koshien is an extremely buff event for Niji. How the hell did they lose July of last year?

>> No.27783488

>>27783258
Yes, it's actually what caused the 3D live fatigue that lead to Nijisanji winning August.

>> No.27783538

>>27783371
Time to go back home to your fellow Indonesians anon
It's time for Facebook!

>> No.27783546

>>27783467
It goes across two months (late July into early August), so the number of 'daily golds' they get from Koshien go across the two months.

>> No.27783598

>>27783467
there's only like a dozen or so streams of koshien a month and that's not enough to win gold

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I can feel it.
Hololive is going to unleash holosummer during august to counter Koshien.
It's gonna be a blood bath.

>> No.27783661

>>27783467
It's a buffed month but it doesn't mean it's gonna be certain wins every day. The captain's gets to be Kuzuha/Salome in their first Koshien streams. Someone like lize could get 30-40k, Ibrahim 20-30k or Leo's 10-20k.

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It's doing decent enough despite all the faggots doomposting here.
The MV is pretty kino.

>> No.27783695

>>27783640
Hololive hasn't open their outfit reveal cards yet, Idk when. All of the members are due for an outfit reveal. The last big outfit reveal was from Kanata.

>> No.27783701

>2k waiting while 90 minutes away
>haachama has the 2nd biggest waiting room even though she's the final one
gen 1 schizo sweating bullets right now

>> No.27783751

>>27783695
It's likely due to waiting for 3.0

>> No.27783792

>>27783751
This is a thought, but does 3.0 mean that all the old outfits need to be redone entirely in the new program? Wouldn't that mean everyone gets a reset on all their outfits?

>> No.27783816

>>27783640
FUCK YOU ANON, DON'T LIFT MY HOPES UP
CHOCO AKI MEL EROLIVE LET ME SEE IT AGAIN YAGOOOOOO

>> No.27783844

>>27783792
I guess so yes. New debuts are gonna use it, old talents are gonna be rigged to 3.0. New outfit reveals are gonna be rigged that way too with the Cover's software.

>> No.27783854

https://youtu.be/YYCXIGp2FJ4
Oh hey Botan is playing VS today

>> No.27783880

>>27783701
>Haachama will be culled into being dead last.
Unless they actually use raids. That seems to bypass it partially.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=607abtLgkiQ
2HU HIJACK LOL

>> No.27783942

>>27778999
She do coomer stuff while singing. Highly gfe

>> No.27783956

>>27783683
I like the song

>> No.27783961

>>27783942
that's a niche that isn't filled within HoloEN

>> No.27783966

Who're the gold contenders for tonight?

>> No.27783973

>>27783880
Oh well, these relays are tough for the last one, and since they do it based on debut date haato will always be last
The only thing that I feel like would help is if they have an after show with all 5 which is highly highly unlikely plus she's the only one who'll overlap with botan

>> No.27783988

>>27783966
Nobody is beating koushien drafts.

>> No.27783998

Twitter followers :
Nimu surpasses Marine
Salime surpasses Vox

>> No.27784004

>>27783966
No contender we already have winner today.

>> No.27784008

>>27783966
Vox

>> No.27784024

>>27783988
niji really only has a shot with gold whenever they do big events or when salome streams, huh. that's not good for them in the long term. event fatigue is a thing and talents don't stay popular forever.

>> No.27784051

>>27783923
Other than Aruran, who am i looking at here?
>44 waiting 100 minutes away
Ngmi

>> No.27784095

>>27784024
I guess that's why they are changing things around but then you fags will talk about how not doing the same thing forever and talents graduating is not good either.

>> No.27784099

>>27776024
what the fuck, is this real?

>> No.27784123

>>27783816
It's happening, anon. As soon as Japan's rainy season is over in august.

>> No.27784133

Am I correct on this? Amouranth showed that she could earned $1.5M every month but that's total revenue I suppose, not net. That's $18M a year. iirc Correctly, Cover alone earned $60M last year, $15M in profits. That's $5M a month. But THIS is only Cover's revenue, not the talents. So far, no one knows how much a Holo Talent earns. They were all advised to get an accountant to manage their own money. They might not earn as much as amourant or other big twitch streamers but as a group like if they pool all the talents & company's monthly revenue into one, they'll beat any streamer or group into submission, even OTK.

I have no doubt Cover+Talents monthly revenue is more than $5M a month

>> No.27784146

>>27783792
Most likely yes. The rigging is done with whatever level of l2d they have in mind, so adjustments need to be made to make sure nothing is glitched to hell.

>> No.27784153

>>27784095
>I guess that's why they are changing things around
what are they changing? the 100+ sub-10k shitters won't suddenly become superstars overnight, so anykara isn't going to stop being in long-term trouble. i guess this is what happens when you have a short-term pump and dump shitbag in charge.

>> No.27784173

>>27783966
Gold is already decided for today.
Just come back during EU hours if you want to have any discussion. An hour from now until then it's only going to be ESL shitposting and baiting.

>> No.27784205

>>27784024
Nah, Nijievents are different because they're reliant on video games and ad campaigns to create the appearance of popularity. Fundamentally, event fatigue doesn't happen with them because they're trend hoppers that ride the yearly hype cycles external to their own brand, like Rust for example which had an arc started by a streamer server being made by FPS-Shaka iirc

This is different from Hololive, which makes their own hype cycle. Hololive doesn't need to buy adds for their own music to farm views for example

>> No.27784226

>>27783988
It's today? Wait, didnt salome have an utawamu tonight too?

>> No.27784252

>>27784226
Squandered numbers

>> No.27784279

>>27784153
>what are they changing?
Things that made Mayuzumi graduate due to creative differences.
>sub-10k shitters
lol
lmao even
>long-term trouble
Yeah, long term trouble with winning daily matome horse race. How will we ever recover nijibors?
Daily reminder that any streamer with more than 3 views is profitable.

>> No.27784285

>>27783966
If anyt>>27784133
Yes, Anurat earned that much in 1 month and XQC earned over 5 million once.
That's why YT poaching the NA Twitch people,
Outside of donations, there's waaaaaay more money made from NA sponsors and Advertisers.

>> No.27784291

>>27784252
Wait it's real? CHANCE, you used your two confirmed golds in one day, nijifags.

Well in any case, I might watch Salome tonight to see if she could sing.

>> No.27784319

8,5k waiting for Koshien

>> No.27784432

>>27784319
Salome will mogged koshien. Scap this!

>> No.27784446

>>27784285
No? Youtube is poaching Twitch streamers because they're trying to starve Twitch off, it's not like either of those platforms are making any money off those people's sponsors lol, don't be retarded

The JP girls probably legit make more money than Amouranth does, that's why the entire schizo argument that one guy brought up was so stupid and everyone ignored it

>> No.27784464

>>27784024
Isn't it better than last year? Last year hololive has absolute dominance, now at least niji has a fighting chance.

>> No.27784485

>>27784446
>No? Youtube is poaching Twitch streamers because they're trying to starve Twitch off
yeah, it's like what microsoft is doing with large publishers in the vidya sphere. it'd be hard for sony to compete with them if every big franchise is owned by microsoft.

>> No.27784509

>>27784446
>JP girls probably legit make more money than Amouranth does
do you think they get more than $1.5m a month?

>> No.27784523

Since the relay is happening from the main HQ, what are the odds of them using the raid feature?

>> No.27784553

huh, you know, today's schdule looks really thin on the ground even with the Relay taken into account.What gives?

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it ticked over again

>> No.27784652

>>27784553
they are mourning over abe's death prisu andastand

>> No.27784686

>>27784553
Abe's death. RIP

>> No.27784702

>>27784509
I think he's trying to say that vtubers each make more direct money for the platform than Amouranth does, meaning from subs, ads and donation cuts.

Hell, since the Hologirls only stream watch parties on Twitch, they might make Twitch more money per viewer than any other streamer in some months. Considering people getting Amazon prime for the stream and whatever deal Amazon has with Twitch for these.

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>>27783956
The drummer dude got hooked on it, he's been trying do the drumming equivalent of an FC for a while.

>> No.27784807

>>27784509
Depends, twitch and YT is different. On twitch, you NEED to stream everyday and that's what twitch streamers do. They earn money every day and that accumulates to 1.5M. The same way Vox does as well. That's why they earn more in donations, SC etc compared to other competitors. If a Holo streams daily and longer, they could earn if not more than amourant and vox if they wanted. Pekora probably earns enough that she doesn't need to do long streams anymore and competing with streamer rankings is stupid. In any case, Holos had already moved on from the old streamer meta.

>> No.27784816

>>27784095
I mean, when those leaving are your most creative folks, then it's not necessarily a "GOOD" change you know...
I could understand trimming the fat, Nijisanji has not been below that, but letting the big folks graduate... it's not a good look.

>> No.27784834

>>27784816
Yeah, bro... The talent freedom... It's gone... What will ever do now... Not a great look...

>> No.27784839

>>27783956
I love the song

>> No.27784849

>>27784807
Ethot prime makes the majority of her money off of Onlyfans no? Not to say Twitch doesn't make up a decent amount of money, but her situation isn't the same as most streamers.

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>>27784834
>The talent freedom... It's gone...
kind of, yeah.

>> No.27784873
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Here is an amusing chart
* Hololive JP, 30 days median *

HoloJP is close to their record time with their median above 10k and, differently from other times, instead of going back to their regular 8ik, 9k median they're actually
>accelerating
and just hit a 30 days median of 11k yesterday.

In their recorded history they're at their fourth best streak, trailing only
>Chinkout + PekoMoona + Miko return
>Coco graduation buff
>Late 2021 arc that culminated on HoloX debut

Is their incline this evident looking at the girls numbers? It doesn't feel like it, feels like more of a "slow and steady " incline than a record setting fast one this time

>> No.27784883

>>27784849
Yeah. Her main income cum mostly from onlyfans contents and some exclusive coomer merchs

>> No.27784908

>>27784509
Let's actually consider this for a second, I'll seriously try to explain this to you.

How big is Amoranth? >https://twitchtracker.com/amouranth
>11,135 Average, 22,203 peak
And this is on Twitch, with inflated numbers. She's less popular than Gura on this platform. Amouranth also double/triple dips through Patreon and Twitch Subs. Obviously, her main revenue though is through OnlyFans, which accounts for something like 90% of her earnings. Assuming everyone subscribed to her OnlyFans took the best deal, 12 months for 85$ which is 50% off: 1.5million$/85$ = She only needs 17,647 members to make that much money, though she would need to be pulling in that many people on a monthly basis.

Comparatively, we have reason to believe that Gura holds something like a stable 20k members on her Youtube channel, ignoring Merch and Sponsorships, which account for significantly greater revenue. Amouranth isn't selling merch, she's not getting sponsorships, and she probably doesn't have near the number of members as JPs have on Youtube/Twitch. She may edge out though through being on more platforms, but that's at best a bump of a few hundred thousand dollars.

Really it comes down to matter of belief. Do you believe that porn gated by OnlyFans memberships sell better than merch does?

>> No.27784926

>>27784869
I truly see now how Vshojo was right about everything...

>> No.27784947

>>27784908
>Do you believe that porn gated by OnlyFans memberships sell better than merch does?
yes. coomershit will always make bank. it's why vox is at the top of the ENchuuba totem.

>> No.27784953

>>27784095
>I guess that's why they are changing things around
I sincerely doubt. An educated guess is that they noticed how much money there is on the table for merchandise, sponsorships and live concerts and decided to expand into an area they were not even foreign to it, having some units already.

>> No.27784968

>>27784873
>11k branch median
holy shit

>> No.27784969

>>27784849
I mean yeah. She's more psychopathic than Rushia and Vox when it comes to money. Idk why girls are saying she works hard, when all it takes was showing off your body to simps every day.

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im getting jp 2view streams recommended now

>> No.27784998

>>27784908
>Do you believe that porn gated by OnlyFans memberships sell better than merch does?
Ofc it is! The production cost is like near zero

>> No.27785010

>>27784953
It's not going to work out for them though because they really are foreign to it. They've poisoned that well so badly with their anti-idol culture and they're fighting hololive on it's home turf

>> No.27785011

>>27784807
>competing with streamer rankings is stupid.
No it is not.

>> No.27785026

>>27784908
The only thing I believe is that amourant may earn a lot of money now but not years later. That kind of content doesn't last a decade..

>> No.27785042

>>27784873
Imagine how much better it'd be if we got rid of the shitters that are Gen 1

>> No.27785059

For comparison, what is the cost and stock of limited merch releases for Holos? Do we actually know?

>> No.27785084

Did okayu remove her frame to not overlap with the relay? Maybe botan will wait until 9:30 pm jst to start rather than 9 pm?

>> No.27785107
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>>27784908
>She's less popular than Gura on this platform
That's because it's not her main platform

>>27784908
>Do you believe that porn gated by OnlyFans memberships sell better than merch does?
Depends on who is selling and it's not too different from the vtuber world
>the Top 50 make massive bank
>the bottom 9 999 950 are 2 views and would be better off doing laundry

>Amouranth isn't selling merch
I don't know specifically about Amouranth but take HaneAme.
https://www.instagram.com/haneame_cos/

Much like Amouranth and other successful flesh peddlers, her main income is clearly from the pay-gated content, wish Instagram, Twitter and other social networks being just the "free sample" to entice prospective customers.

She sells everything: hard cover photobooks, signed posters and even god a figure produced by goodsmile.
Not every thot is making bank like that but the smart ones are making vtuber tier money, with the most publicized ones (Amouranth, Belle Delphine) making more than vtubers could.

>> No.27785132

4.5k waiting for fbk with 35 minutes left to go

>> No.27785135

>>27785042
ok Millhouse *rolls eyes*

>> No.27785154

>>27784789
>an FC
A what?

>> No.27785191

Koshien draft in 1 minute with 28k in the waiting room
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vF87rFYmR4

>> No.27785223

>>27784988
youtube did some finangling with the algo a couple months back that made it more likely to reccomend smaller channels that appeals to your interest

>> No.27785228

>>27785191
Easy 150k, wouldn't surprise me with an overperformance and 180k

>> No.27785229

I’m back. What do we have in store for today you fuckers?
Silver candidate for today? Since Koshien will get gold

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