/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

i won

first time making the general, apologies for any problems.

That vague tweet was such bullshit

I humbly request you refrain from shitting up other threads.

>>27748146
I was almost hoping we wouldn't make a new thread for a few days and let the animals shitfling in their own threads rather than here

>>27748096
Should souchou actually adress the situation in a stream? The vagueposting behind membership itself was fine but the tweet was too much.
She has to double down, this is looking way too bad at the moment

>>27748251
Maybe I should've left it to the usual guys but idk, feels like some sort of capitulation.

>>27748096
You should've waited longer

I asked it in the previous thread but,can anybody post the timestamp for when she talked about the cosplayer girl helping with her sarashi? I'd be really thankfull.

>>27748288
Yeah, how dare she ask people not to take things she said out of context and lie using her name, the audacity of this bitch.

>>27748288
She should bunker down until the debut day.

I will be the last shineitai supporting her and she will marry me, this is all part of our great plan.

>>27748406
I'd say you're correct if she didn't post the membership post and then the tweet.
There is no going back after that tweet.

>>27748288
I think she should have cancalled this stream, let things calm down a bit AND THEN stream.

>>27748506
What's wrong with the tweet?

She should lay off the vageposting and the matome site reading. Also stop trying to force Kanata to do her bidding.

>>27748353
https://youtu.be/iOTy_4Okvpo?t=2963

>>27748574
Ignore the schizos
They probably don't even know what matome-sites are.

Remember not to reply to retarded posts or else these animals will never leave

>>27748682

>>27748866
CUTE!!

>>27748126
>laughed at by chinks for being ugly after a face reveal
>can't stream to the remaining english fans on twitch because china, making the 10k she spent on her models go down the drain
>now broke as shit, trying to sell nfts on twitter to invest in crypto
real winner

>>27748682
Tatsunoko can't help chowing down on the bait. I understand, I was the same way when the Taiwan yab happened.

VSHOJO IS CORPORATE

>>27748251
>>27748322
I can see the value in both. I don't know if not starting a thread for, say, an hour would calm things down, but maybe.
I'm normally someone who helps bump the thread in between tasks in my workday. I'm used to posting something cute once an hour or so, but my usual need to bump is removed, and frankly I don't care about the dramashitters, so until Souchou is streaming again, the thread may be alive, but it's not something I'm engaging with.

I understand wanting to continue making threads. I also understand a gap, whether that's hours or days.
OP glad to have you make a thread for the first time. Please don't let this be a negative experience. During a more calm stretch of time, having more people who make threads is a good thing.

>>27748866
I not-killed so many people there

>>27748987
>VSHOJO IS CORPORATE
No it's not.
Are you calling Kson a liar?

>>27748623
Thank you! It's really good to see good people in the thread.

>>27749023
yes it is and yes

>She can't sleep

>>27748987
>>27749023
>>27749049
This is yesterday's bait.
You need to keep up or get out.

Ganbare tatsunokofriends
Don't let shitposters take your heart from you, they don't deserve it

don't tell me she spent the entire night egosearching...

>>27749085
Still a corpo tatsunokek

>>27748126
no, you both lost

>>27748975
>She's actually a cryptoshill
LMAO

>>27749049
wtf???? thought it was a FAMILY

>>27748975
>>27749341
Please go make a dedicated thread to discuss this vtuber. It is not appropriate here.

>>27749141
It would be one thing if the bad things that get posted were even remotely true, it's easy to ignore bait when they have to pretend my oshi is a completely different person to shitpost her, that alone proves there's nothing to hate on.

Hang in there friends, Kson has had to deal with a lot of difficult choices and people throughout her journey. What kept her together and able to keep going was the fans who believed in her even when at the time the better option was just to get rid of her.
No need to start conflicts, no need to fight, just ignore the shit posts as we've always been doing.

I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING

>>27748096
why do americans have to ruin everything?

>>27749597
spoken like a true yes-men bugs that can't think for themselves

>>27749801
Sucks that you never had an oshi to believe in. You'll find someone someday though I'm sure.

>>27749491
Haven't seen this image in a while. It's one of my favorites, just the open-arms expression like she's going to explain something but then just grass.

>>27748990
Thanks anon. I have been online a lot today between the Abe news and all the shit in vtuber land. I've been thinking a lot about how Japan is just its own insular bubble in a lot of ways. In many ways we all live in our own weird bubbles and don't perceive what it looks like from the outside. We'll never really know what's going on inside the PJK/kson bubble, we'll never know what goes on in the Cover/VSJ/etc bubbles.

All we can hope is that the girls we like get through it all ok. I'm glad this general exists desu. I'd join the Discord but don't want to authenticate. So you guys are the only place I can really discuss this with.

https://youtu.be/iOTy_4Okvpo?t=3950
preggo kumichou is hot

>>27750513
don't join the discord, mods are morons. And all of the cool projects come from the jp fanbase anyway

>>27750513
>I'd join the Discord but don't want to authenticate. So you guys are the only place I can really discuss this with.
Same. I got the invite to hang out and discuss her, but then it asked for my phone number and I NOPE'd out of that. Is there no way around that bullshit?

vshojo

LMFAO

>>27750858
Did you use a temporary email to make the account?
I have a couple throwaway gmail accounts for making accounts, which turn into infinite accounts by using the plus "trick".

>>27750913
I used a real email (one of many, this one is reserved for wee shit, but it's active/real). I know about +'s but I thought Gmail didn't play nice with them. In any event, I made an account but it won't show me anything without entering a phone number. Are you saying there's a way to make an account without triggering that question?

>>27751103
The plus works on Gmail, though not all sites might accept emails with a plus symbol.
And no, it hasn't asked me for a phone number, I was just thinking if you had used one of the many temporary mail systems that may have been the reason you got "flagged".

>>27749996
>Oshi is kson
>Oshi a facetuber
Sorry for your loss

>>27751212
So it is possible, though. I'll see if I can identify an email that I have that they will accept. Thanks for the knowledge.

>>27751212
The Discord won't allow my account in without a phone number associated with my account, not sure what's up with that. I use my throwaway email but don't want to tie a phone number to it.

>>27751756
Just good for higher security in case it's a server likely to get infiltrated by spambots and shit. It sucks but also I can imagine certain servers being very high priority targets for bots if that measure weren't in place.

>>27749996
She was my oshi until she betrayed every indie by joining vshojo going against everything she stood for in the past year

>>27752362
Maybe if you actually watched her videos you'd know she's still an indie.

>>27752408
I've watched them, she's deluding herself by thinking she's still an indie, it's an insult to actual indies

I want to know where some of you idiots got the idea that being passive aggressive will make trolls leave.

Don't bother with the discord, the suggestion that kson could make a single mistake ever is foreign to them

Some beings are too pure and innocent for this world, kson is one of them, always trying to see the good in everyone, her naivety makes her vulnerable, i can only imagine how sheltered she must have been her entire life to have this attitude at her age.

I don’t even know if i want her to keep being friends with other holos if that means the hololive fanbase will still be trying to maliciously take everything she says or does out of context, so much for keeping in touch with other holos when the company her supposed friends work for treat her this way, I genuinely believe the best path forward is cutting ties with all them, Kanata included, she gets all the blame while her supposed friends have it easy and are okay with whatever shit gets thrown at her.

And no i’m not a schizo, i’m just tired of her being in the difficult position of being friends with other hololive members when their fans just don’t get it, some friendships are simply not worth it, all she really needs is Megumi, us and her family.

It’s not worth it for Kanata either, she should stick to Hololive and cut ties with kson, her friendship will bring her nothing but trouble, I don’t see how not living together will shield her from being suspect of leaks, it’s not like you have to live together to leak confidential information.

I mean is it really worth hanging out with Fubuki, Noel and others in such terms? She graduated with grace, never did anything wrong and she’s still too problematic for Cover, well then i say fuck Cover.

I’ll be surprised if Mel is allowed to stream with her or do another cover with her again since she’ apparently can’t be trusted anymore.

>You’re an anti!
Nah man, i just don’t think feeling like a pariah is worth it so other hololive members can get 5 minutes of zatsudan material and act like everything is cool.

You can all pretend this won’t affect her friendship with Kanata all you want, at the end of the day you can’t go against a tide, Cover gets to dictate who their talents can ne friends with and that’s just how the world works.

It’s even worse when you remember how little Cover did for her during the targeted harassment campaign she suffered, this is how they repay her, by making up some bullshit excuse about leaks.

This trip they’re doing together is such a farce too.

I love this bitch and her big boobs

>>27752514
Good to hear
or
Sorry that happened

What's she doing with Unreal Engine? Did I miss something?

Positive energy

>>27752565
Hyper realistic 3D model like that Code something chick, presumably.

>>27752565
her super 3D setup is in UE4, and they are at the moment porting her anime model to UE4 as well, so she can use the same environment

>>27752565
Getting a Code Miko-esque model. Genuinely curious if she contacted her for assistance because of some weird Mikoverse thing she was promoting recently..

>>27752606
>>27752633
>>27752636
cool cool cool thanks anon

>>27752565
She said she's trying to fix the lighting on her model.

>>27752636
Heard about this in the past when she debuted her 3.0 model and I never actually looked into it. There's a website setup where vtubers can apply to be part of it and now I'm really curious. Hoping she didn't contact her. Miko is a black hole of charisma who gets by entirely on tech

Im curious to what she wants to show about the trip in a membership stream that she couldn't in the normal.

>>27752736
that would make sense, it was a bit scuffed (but kinda funny)

>>27752795
>super3d
oh no

>>27752848
Again some T2 shit?

>>27752954
Have faith in Kson, she never misses.

>>27752990
except when she said she'll never go corporate again

>>27752848
Hopefully it's pictures of her changing into the cosplay

>>27752514
this.

>>27752990
Personally I've got nothing against using a model like that even if I'm sure it'll look kinda weird and uncanny like Miko's. I'm just hoping it doesn't lead to them really working together. I gave Miko a shot when I was first getting into vtubers because her tech is genuinely fucking impressive but good god I just can't.

I wonder what kind of comments she found while ego searching and where, 2chan? twitter?
I am kinda curious what the jp fans are talking about. Since Vshoujo ist not know in Japan, the comments were probably talking about her being a traitor or opportunistic or something like that.
It's rare for her to address directly the speculations about her actions.

>>27753209
If you search for kson on twitter you regularly find "articles" from Matome-sites. They basically grab a couple of 5ch posts, then use the juiciest one as a headline. This way they mass produce articles that are then linked on twitter. The laziest ones just link other Matome sites.
The sites are basically riddled with ads which is how they make money and it works because people are easily baited to click those links.

>>27752514
>I don’t see how not living together will shield her from being suspect of leaks, it’s not like you have to live together to leak confidential information.
This is a good point and it makes this whole situation even more ridiculous, if leaks are a problem then Cover should just spill the truth to Kanata already, "you can't be friends with this woman anymore"
If any leak happens she will still be blamed for it, what exactly is the point of moving out? how does that prevent leaks? If kson can't be trusted to live with another holo chuuba then she can't be trusted to be friends with them either.

>>27752969
No, she just said there are things she wants to show in a membership stream.

>>27753209
heres a typical 5ch megami thread without ips, it's a complete mess
archive dot ph/Tvb9c

>>27753727
gj job

She really is nothing but trouble, huh?

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1545512806438797312

what was that creative freedom she wanted?

>>27753727
Post the correct image

I love this bitch and her big round butt

>>27753850
>Positive energy びーーーーむ
I fucking love this bitch.

>>27753878
Freedom to stream react videos

>>27753901
She only says stuff like this when things are really bad, though. You know she's having a hard time...

>>27753850
Stop with the positive tweeting already kumichou... forced positivity changes nothing

>>27753850
She is sad that Kanata will no longer be her pet

>>27754209
Could you please leave?

We need a Kson version with positive energy

>>27753850
sending all the negative energy I have! my dog just took a shit, I'll send that too!

>>27754098
It's the only thing she knows how to do

>>27739867

There is no world where VshojoJP is an existential threat to Hololive, or Nijisanji for that matter. Being twitched based, its cut off from most of the JP audience in the first place. Also being twitch based, there is no respect for Copyright, so any sign of growth approaching Hololive will see them getting fucked in the ass with copyright infringement takedowns and potentially lawsuits from JP companies.
Lets say VshojoJP is on youtube instead, well then you're cut off from the main vshojo audience, and your numbers aren't going to be any better than they were as an indie, oh, buy then you get to deal with the bugs that will obviously show up, and then mikeneko antis who she will predictably sperg out about. The more attention they bring to Vshojo in Japan, the more likely other vshojo related vtubers also get smacked with that dmca hammer by Japanese companies full in their rights to, even under US law.
Vshojo will never be an existential threat as a vtubing company, but Mikeneko visiting Kson's house while Kanata lives there could be an existential threat to Kanata's career. Cover just made her aware of potential situations and asked if she was prepared to accept the risks to herself and others by staying, and she said no. Ultimately Cover just informed her and she made an informed decision, of her own will. Perhaps they even discussed it. Kson tells Kanata to join her, Kanata tells Kson to come back.... she should have just swallowed her pride and come back, she could have been so much more, now she's just gonna be a connor groupie...

She seems to thrive on drama. China, now this.

New outfit is gonna be cute!
I can feel it!

>>27754652
They became a threat the moment they hired an NDA breaker

You know, she has a lot of nerve shittalking Hololive when FBK still gets wheelbarrowed because she stuck by her(for nothing)

>>27754808
I'm hoping for something like this

>>27754881
I'm thinking kimono for a summer theme

>>27754652

>>27754808
I was hoping for a new hairstyle but the silhouette look like her basic hair which is kinda disappointing

>>27754652
>Cover just made her aware of potential situations and asked if she was prepared to accept the risks to herself and others by staying, and she said no.
A deposit of 10 Holobucks has been made to your HoloEarth account.

Dunno why but i really want another megumi stream

>>27755065
Braids would have been nice

>>27754995
image is pretty much the tl;dr

>>27755149
mgmi is kinda crazy

>kson noooooo

>>27755229
Yeah but she's good crazy

>>27755233
>kson noooooo
>post picture of hololive
???

>>27754098
>>27754394
>It's the only thing she knows how to do
I can relate so deeply to this. I can take a step back, and intellectually ask myself "Is this really good if I'm forcing it?" but it doesn't change my actions: projecting positivity, ESPECIALLY when I suspect people around me need a mood boost.

>>27753850
Just get a punching bag to release the stress.

>>27755329
The thing is this really only works for the people around you, it doesn't actually help you.

>>27754652
Mike doesn't even need to visit anyone, she still knows where they live so she only has to give one pointer on accident for people to find them on their own. If it's really Mike I don't know how people actually think kson wouldn't want to protect Kanata herself.

>>27755900
>it doesn't actually help you.
Ain't that the truth.

I think she'll be fine after the trip

Losing all my respect for her

When do you guys think the schizo's and falseflaggers will get bored I give it a week after Nazuna's debut

>>27756406
We still have Artia posts.

>>27756461
No one takes them seriously
I actually find them pretty funny

I just woke up. What is the new happening?

>>27756862
Shinzo Abe was murdered.

>>27756898
Abe...

>>27756898
I'm sad that I have not reproduced enough to meet his expectations, but I'd like to know about the thing about Kanata moving out

>>27756862
>>27756898
>>27756999
chibison orchestrated Shinzo Abe's assassination

The dark times are over the hard times are just beginning

>>27757040
taso manager probably asked her to move
both cuteson and kanatach agree it's probably for the best
chibison vauge posts in member content
some one photoshopped it and leaks it
dramaniggers smell blood
Souchou trying to stay positive
You are here

>>27757236
>kanacoco is no more
I feel like this is a chapter of my life that is closing

>>27754652
the one way theu are an existential threat is the deal they offer to talents. Ksons stream that explained the benefits of vshojo (keep your stream revenue, own IP etc) sounded like a sales pitch to all their talent though I am sure it wasn't intended that way. Holo, niji or any other corpo is going to be nervous because each talent they hire is an investment they make and want to profit off. If he talent are just going to leave for vshojo after they have grown their audience with them that is great for the talent but you can see why they view it as a threat

>>27757236
>photoshopped
lol

>>27757350
It's not your life. Just 2 pseudo internet celebrities not living together anymore. Get help.

>>27757236
People could very easily prove the dramafags wrong but just posting what she actually said
the
>MEMBERS ONLY
thing makes it sound like to others theyre just lying since they dont wanna post any receipts.
I dont agree but thats how people see it.

>>27757484
Fuck off schizo

>>27757236
>some one photoshopped it
No they didn't and saying they did just reeled in more antis. Pretty fucking stupid thing to do.

>>27757534
Anon, you're the schizo if your life revolves around two vtubers living together or not...

>>27757626
You care too much about my life. Are you in love with me? Get lost loser

>>27757699
I don't care care about you ba-baka. But I'd let (you) kiss me under an umbrella.

>>27757350
Only for shippers who only see them as a romantic pairing. If they go away after this it's a good thing.

>>27757874
>it's a good thing
Kson doesn't seem to be too happy about it though.

>>27758008
>Kson doesn't seem to be too happy about it
That's the best part.

>>27757052

Kumichou...
Kanata...

>>27758222
Sinister...

>>27758008
Duh. Nobody's happy about it except the shitposters and the dramafags.
This situation sucks and I hate it. I've been acting like an asshole itt and irl because of this. I never do this usually.
I just want all the parties to talk about it without any cryptic bullshit. But that's impossible. AND I FUCKING HATE IT AAAAAAAAAAAH

>>27757052
Has Kson played Doom? Because when I saw the pic of this homemade weapon the shooter apparently had in his place it was all I could think of.

can't wait

>>27758008
Neither of them are happy about it but not for the reasons shippers assume. Some people really think KanaCoco is over because of this. It is a shitty situation but they're adults, bad things are sometimes necessary for people to move on. Isn't this one of the lessons we all learned with Coco's graduation?

>>27758294
It’s a really sad situation but there’s nothing any of us can do, just support Souchou and give her a warm welcome when her next stream starts.

wow, kson got some diehard parasocials

>>27758834
Don't you have your own thread to post in, Finana?

damn, I tried mentioning to kson to play babysitter bloodbath and my friendly neighborhood and she didnt see it

what do, I dont wanna spam her chat every time

>>27758834
We love our bitch.

damn they going craaaaaaaaazy
https://www.mangasokuhou.com/?p=323988

>>27758834
Nothing else to do or discuss when the board is still making bait threads and shitting up random generals with nearly week old drama at this point.

>>27759174
>https://www.mangasokuhou.com/?p=323988
>I tried live streaming of this child, but the number of clocks is so great that it feels really good.
>[Nijisanji] It ’s such a big baby with boobs.
>[Holo Live] The reality of Pekora being in the hall of a pachinko parlor is too high.
I just thought the google output was funny, ignore

>>27759174
that site is the equivalent of die hard /vt/ drama seeker schizo
suigoi

>>27758834
>implying holo doesn't have their own parasocials

>>27759687
why the thomas the tank engine?

>>27759687
debuson...

>>27759718
Please watch the streams anon

>>27759687
why Thomas the tank engine?
i need sleep

>>27759789
She saw a Thomas toy or something, I had to get up and go to the bathroom so I don't really know what the significant of it was but it was on the stream.

>>27759174
post 485 is absolutely correct

>>27748096
How long until kson talk is moved into the vshojo global like all the other talent?

She made her decision...she chose to sell out and join melody's agency with the NDA breaking needy streamer.

>>27758834
here's your (You) now go fuck yourself we love our bitch.

>>27759651
Well, no. That was not my implication. I just didnt expect so many dumb simps believe the obvious lies kson tries to put out

>>27760089
You see the doctor yet anon?

>>27759988
>>27760032

sorry to be that guy, but any bets on when she will cry on stream again?

>>27759789
>>27759854
She saw a Thomas the tank toy with a cutesie face
She was surprised by how different it looks from the OG Thomas

>>27760425
sorry to be that guy, but you need to fuck off

>>27760425
lets be positive

>>27752565
>What's she doing with Unreal Engine?
Sex with me

When do you think shes gonna do more 3d stuff?

>>27761088
hopefully soon

>>27760145
"i wont join another corp" "vshojo is not a corp guiuiuis" omegalul

>>27761164
You'll never get better if you don't go.

>>27761164
Vshoujo is Vtuber servive provider company. They provide Vtuber support service. Kson is customer

Mearsk or Evergreen is Logistic service provider. They provide logistic service to customer. Customer who buy their service not join Eveegreen as employee.

This call outsourcing and partnership

I don't really give a shit how much of a ragtag collection Vshojo is I just hope kumicho don't get influenced by their low grade entertainment but having to give up friendship with kanata feels actually dirty. Not sure how to feel about this, I want to support her but not to the point that she is burning down bridges with old friends.

>>27761187
My mental health has nothing to do with her lying and you thinking she cares about her fans

>>27761470
She is not the one who burn down bridge. I would say Cover's Ksonphobia did dirty

>>27761470
They're not gonna stop being friends anon
it's just that they're particularly close and living together could be seen as a conflict of pretty sure kson still talks with a bunch of holos

>>27761564
They were okay with her for a year when she was just kson. It's not Vshojophobia either since their talents collab with them. It has to be about Michaelcat.

>>27761464
Yeah thats great. Kson is going to be a literal employee.

>>27761464
Do Mearsk or Evergreen also get all rights for the product of their customer as a brand distributing the product?

>>27761464
You need to stop posting this ridiculous cope

>>27761663
>It has to be about Michaelcat.
It's this. Cover has shown no signs of having any issues with VShojo or Kson whatsoever. It wasn't until Miguel gato came into the picture that something like this happened.

>>27761470
Just look at her twitch streams, she already was and it'll only get worse

>>27761663
they were cool with her and vshojo separately. When the get together and hang a sign saying anybody who wants to go 'Indie' we will hook you up is a different story.

>>27761925
Surely reaction streams aren't gonna become more prevalent. If anything I expect more consistency in what she's doing now as she's going to be invigorated to try her best.

>>27761470
It isn't Kson's fault that her former employer decided to fuck with her to get revenge for her joining a competing group.
>>27761663
It's about VShojoJP. It's an attractive deal for streamers with an already established fan base and they want to keep the Hololive girls as far away as possible so they don't jump ship. Making Kanata move out is the first step, next they'll stop her from talking about her on stream and then they'll pressure her to just not associate with Kson at all. Same with Mel/Choco/Noel/etc.

>>27761925
Can't be worse then pika looking at food videos

>>27761925
i kinda like her reaction streams, those are more chill and less scripted, and is always funny to shit on america

>>27761990
>>27762107
I don't think they really see VshojoJP as that much of a threat in and of itself at the moment. After all they can't really control what kson share with them either way, and that's basically every secret of how Cover runs the company, that damage is already basically done. Maybe they know about their scouting targets and are bracing for more talent wars (Delta or attempts of poaching someone straight out of Hololive directly). That could sort of explain them covering all their bases hardcore right now. We'll have to wait and see just how much interactions they'll have with Hololive in the future once JP is established.

japanese are still going wild everywhere
especially over kanata moving out

>>27762293
>We'll have to wait and see just how much interactions they'll have with Hololive in the future once JP is established.
None. Vshojo JP murdered any chance of Hololive collabs the moment they hired mikeneko. This self victimization that it has anything to do with kson and not the menhera ticking time bomb she's savior fagging is pathetic.

And I don't think NijiJP is about to start collabing with Kson either for entirely different reasons.

>>27762180
Man, what happened to Pika... She was literally the person who brought me into vtubing with that "Let's kill that hoe" clip. Now she just faded like a candle, I barely even hear about her anymore whether good or bad.

>>27762449
This is interesting because Vshojo doesn't market itself as a company in a strict sense yet everyone assumes one member will affect how other members interact with other companies simply because it's the same brand. Maybe they themselves don't understand how that works.

>>27762180
theres nothing wrong with pika looking at food videos.

>>27762777
The "we're not a company" thing is stupid cope. If they were some convenient merch umbrella, then would Kson be sticking their logo everywhere? Would she be "joining" anything? Would her "genmate" be debuting? Vshojo seem to be under the impression they won't be treated as a company, but they are treated as one in both EN and soon JP.

>>27761470
Sadly it won't just be kanata who gets ruined.

All of kson's other friends will get pushed out in favour of the usual vshojo orbiters, like the EN girls pushed out a lot of 2views and old friends and only cared about the likes of snuffy or haruka.

>>27762889
They don't even do collabs other than 2 who play Apex sometimes.

I think we should discuss how badly we want to have sex with kson like the good old times

>>27763168
sex with a fat sad lady doesn't sound fun

>>27763168
touch grass, xi

>>27763209
Cringe
I want to cum inside her bellybutton

>>27762777
>Vshojo doesn't market itself as a company
>What is VShojo? We are a VTuber company
>company
They're also listed as an active corporation. Can people stop with this weird cope? It's really fucking weird.

>>27763750
Then they would have to agree that kson joined another company lul

Go to the vshojo thread you faggots. Got enough company vtuber threads clogging up the board the Vshojo threads really need the traffic.

omfg you absolute faggots, not a company was meant to explain to the japs that think company=vtuber owned by the company, when you see smaller vtuber groups in japan with former indies they call themself a GROUP not a company fucking brainded retards

>>27762889
I sure hope none of the Vshojos play Genshin or Mahjong Soul

>>27764348
maybe a braindead retard faggot like you shouldnt post when he doesnt understand whats going on

>>27764348
Nta, but her being vague about everything after the announcement is the sole reason of everything that is happening now in this thread and board.

>>27764567
He's right tho?

>>27764610
'nta' what does it even mean
Is it a r*ddit thing?

>>27764610
she is not being vague. she just doesn't understand very well how everything works.
it is like when your mom has to explain what you do for someone else.

Stop shitopositng, have Kutemichou
https://twitter.com/VShojoOfficial/status/1545574926270201856

is all this drama really worth it for....mikeneko?

>>27764700
I'm pretty sure she does, but admitting joining corpo would make her hypocrite after telling on multiple instances that she has no plan of joining any agency.
Well, antis cough on that so now she can't backtrack.

>>27764797
You're not looking deep enough
Nazuna = Nozo(nine)
>こちらですが、現時点では開始する予定はありません
June 5th - Nazuna July 3rd twitter debut

>>27764613
No he isint. Well, vtuber groups is a thing, even in the west.

>>27764689
not that anon, anon

>>27764777
Cute video. I like that guy who was tearing up after getting her to sign a thing.

Sex with Kumichou

>>27767058
based ritual poster

and yeah, with me

>>27764777
she's the best

>>27764689
How about you go back there and find out buddy

i hate positive thinking
i hate people who greet me with good morning

>>27761788
That Kson's payment for Vshoujo service
Payment can be vatious way up to negotiation.

Yes, distribute Vshoujo as her service provider is including.

Several company also add their partner as payment for service like this like Kuroneko in the past.

You know I and Kson say the truth

>>27770373
eigo jouzu

>>27762694
Someone want to kill Pikamee and let her know in chat unironically.

She scare

>>27762694
She recently had an excellent collab with OnigiriEN. Probably the best of her cooking collabs since Pikamee didn't have the recipe written down and could barely remember any of the details.

>>27770736
Sorry my Eng is bad

>>27771142
Your English is bad and your oshi is even worse

>>27771291
why is he mad?

>>27771291
If you want to speak with someone who has good English, perhaps try your doctor

>>27771100
Thanks for the tip! I keep forgetting Onigiri exists, but every time I am reminded, I watch some of her and love it. With Pika I'm sure it'll be even better lol

>>27771142
Jinja-niki, don't let >>27770736 bother you about your language skills. They only make fun of language skills when they cannot disagree with the meaning of what you said.

I miss chibison...

>>27761464
>>27770373
The funny thing is that she only accepted the proposal from this "service provider" in March (the same month as the millionaire investment). Of course she only accepted the terms to help Mike and deal with less bureaucracy, all this money on the table was just coincidence.

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/vshojo-11-million-funding-round-vtuber-group-expansion-1784541/

>>27772112
They got the money because the sold investors on the idea of expanding into Japan with some big names, you businesslet.

>>27772232
And these big names accepted the invitation without asking for any financial reward. Kson and Mike are extremely altruistic

>>27772419
Yes they each got 5.5 million dollars.

>>27772419
>>27772470

kson did a devious lick and split 11mil with mike
nothing personal mel, it's just business

>>27772470
>>27772492
I don't think they got it all, but something they got

>>27772612
You know this is the woman who walked away from the job of being the world's highest paid Vtuber because it wasn't fun, right. Money isn't a motivator for her.

>>27772112
> This retard can't understand number
> just break even
> not profit
> Core bussiness disaventage to talents

You want to show fact that Vshojo is really charity company for Vtuber industry?

You just help Kson confirm it

>>27773102
Would money, fun, and the opportunity for revenge against Cover motivate her?

>>27774087
She doesn't want to hurt Cover, all her friends work there.

>>27773920
Then explain to me where I am wrong

>>27772492
Wow, you just changing my mind.
Vshoujo may be force of light all the time.

> Vshoujo is partnership with Rise Above The Disorder, a non-profit that helps thousands to access mental health care, to provide the mental health services to its creators

> Mikeniko

It all make sense now

>>27774131
That's why she wants to hurt Cover, she thinks she's rescuing her friends.

>>27774131
But the tatsunokos always said that Cover treated her unfairly

>>27774131
don't bother
antis literally believe kson is a cold, calculating, and spiteful person

>>27774378
They did, but she doesn't want to hurt Cover, all her friends work there.

>>27774425
If Cover treats its employees badly, then wouldn't Kson have any reason to try to destroy it and recruit all her friends?

>>27774258
> They made fund 11 m from several investors not from profit.
> This fund came to Gunrun not Kson and Mikeneko. ( She may recieve some thou)
> Vshoujo use part of this money for charity with Rise Above The Disorder.
> That help Menhera peoples
> from company's statistic, They are not profit much. We can include 11M to Gunrun and it's just breakeven and that is not profit.

Antis help Kson now

>>27774131
>>27774378
>>27774425
Correct. She was treated poorly by Cover. She doesn't want to hurt her friends, or the company they work for. Just become someone treats you unfairly does not mean you must swear a blood oath to seek their destruction.
It might be hard for the /vt/sisters like >>27774597 to understand, because it doesn't lead to maximum drama, but well-adjusted people are capable of simply moving on without a grudge.

>>27774680 (me)
Typo correction:
>Just become someone treats you unfairly
Just because someone treats you unfairly

>>27774680
>She was treated poorly by Cover.
No she wasn't. She kept trying to bypass management. It was her not willing to be a team player and acting like she should be treated like an indie while having all the benefits of being under the Hololive umbrella.

>>27774776
>She kept trying to bypass management.
Completely incorrect.

>>27774608
All right, now I'm going to sleep. See you tomorrow Jp bro

>>27774828
You should look at this
https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/491382-19#funding

From my research

May be
Vshojo really is charity company for Vtuber after all.

> got 11 million fund
> just break even not even profit
>give fund for charity to Rise Above The Disorder first
> where it help menhera peoples like Mikeneko become stable people.
> Gunrun share these money fund to many other for charity.

Is Gunrun saviourfag or something?

>>27774776
The last thing i remember her bypassing HL management was that Kazuma figurine meme review.

>while having all the benefits of being under the Hololive umbrella

What benefits? As far as i know, she got cold-stored after the incident. No collab on the official channel, literally the only G4 who never made it into that Gokigen show on HL's niconico, etc. In fact, i wouldn't be surprised if Kanata got "forced" to move because of this cold-storing.

It's more like HL wanted to keep her to retain her SC earnings while keeping her to doing docile and mundane streams.

>>27774680
>She doesn't want to hurt her friends, or the company they work for
And nevertheless she has hurt them, and keeps hurting them.

>>27757357
holo's biggest strength has always been the holobox. having exclusive access to collabs and interactions with practically the top 30 vtubers in the world gives you a massive viewership boost.
coco wanting to leave made sense because of chinks shitting up her sponsorship chances and collabs pretty much neutralizing that benefit but that doesnt mean its the same for the other holos

>>27775505
he sells backpack

>>27776409
You say hypocritically as you lurk this thread hurting us. And more importantly, hurting yourself, by refusing to see a doctor.

>>27758834
Yes, and I will never lose faith in her.

she's so cute bros
I've just gotten my tax return(had to mail them in) I'm gonna give her an akasupa

>>27777193
She's building Neo Zeong soon

>>27777193
I hope for a Gundam building stream soon. Also, I wonder what Gunpla she brought at AX.

>>27777295
With that big a box, i wonder how many liners does it have...and how long she will need.

>>27777507
A week.

GNMF, see you tonight?

>>27774811
Except she did?

>>27777945
GNMF!

I've been membered to Kson for over a year now, even though I haven't followed any of the news around her or watched any clips or streams of her for about a year. I heard she was vshoujo now. That's kinda fucking cringe, but she seems like she's having fun.

bros i dont want kanata to move out... i want her and coco and watame and hacchan together again bros...

lol. Just lol.
>t. Crazy wahman shit schizo dropping back by

>>27777945
gnmf

>>27778667
Too bad, Kanata is a pushover and her manager hates her.

>>27778886
I was surprised it took a year to stop living together
I'm not looking forward to the pjk and kson depression arcs
they're like two pair bonded cats

>>27778886
so why not tell management to go fuck themselves? theres no way kanata didn't know about vshojo, all of this seems like she got an ultimatum from cover

>>27779900
or the fact that mike is also joining changed things.

>>27779972
Anon stop, this about this for a second but, while the evidence is insurmountable, it might not even be Mike and it could still be someone else entirely, if that where the case then Cover would have had her move for nothing more than a rrat on Mongolian bee keeping forums and the cancer of the internet twitter. Now let's go with scenario 2 here, Kanata must have known that Kson would be joining Vshojo but would she tell management about something that her friend was doing? Why would she do that? There is literally no reason to do that whatsoever but let's just say that she did, if management knew about Kson joining Vshojo from a month ago let's say, now why would they only just tell her to move out only days after Kson's debut, that's very retarded, but you'll say "ohh but Mike's joining as well" while we are all sure that it is Mike at this point the only way to concretely prove it is her would be on debut day and not on a two second clip of her speaking and if it isn't her as we all suspect then once again Cover made Kanata move for no reason. Now let's go with the third scenario, management knew that both Kson and Mikeneko where joining Vshojo, my first question would be how do they know this but let's just assume they do, why then would they just now ask her to move locations if they had know for at least a month? Once again that's very retarded. Let's go now with scenario 4 Cover just found out that Kson was joining Vshojo, if Cover had just found out that Kson was joining Vshojo and hastily made the decision to tell her to move due to her living with what would, in their eyes, essentially be competition, and in regards to Kson charismatic and influential competion, then that would make the most sense in a scenario like this since Civer management is dogshit and don't think things through. Once again you may say "bu bu but Mike", again that's based on a two second clip of her speaking and once again if it isn't her, even with the amount of evidence we have now, then Cover would have essentially jumped the gun and had Kanat move out for no reason......or it could be that Kanata is a grown woman and can do what she wants and just decided to move out.....

>>27774776
this.

>>27780655
A lot of ifs, buts, and maybes. We can only guess but, my post was more about a possibility that Cover had no problem until mike. Granted, i should have typed "might have".

>>27754652
Finally! This! This is the reason of Kanata moving away.
Ever more when she discovered that Mike asked for an angel themed avatar. Kanata should felt immediately threatened and now must run away fast!
She surely knew about Kson joining Vshojo but that menhera joining too, visiting their house almost every day, was unexpected and it's dangerous.

I told you so

>>27764777
That was cute, thanks.

>>27779900
Look up what "pushover" means.

Sorry but I don't think my oshi is a pushover. She chose what she thought was best after careful thought and considering everyone in her life. Even including, permit me to believe, us heimin. The whole month felt like something was really off, we all felt it. At least now I think I know the reason why, apart from the heatwave.

This is Yakuza 5 if Haruka never stepped off the stage. Let them meet again with two dreams fulfilled.

If your whore really cared about Kanata like she claimed then she wouldn’t have abandoned her for the whores. She belongs with the rest of the using two faced lying Vshojo whores.

>>27783020
It wasn't some special thoughtful consideration. They told her to move out or she'll get Coco'd.

>Day off
She was so happy a few days ago... pain

>>27779900
She didn't know, nothing says she did
Maybe she knew she was joining an overseas group, but she didn't know Mike was joining or that their advertising was "fuck Japanese vtubing companies."

>>27783802
>Kanata didn't know what her best friend who is like family is doing
>Kanata didn't know about Mike, who she is great friends with and hangs out with IRL often
Enough of this retarded coping. Cover forced her to move. Face the facts.

>>27783947
Hehe you're so retarded you didn't even fight my main point
You don't spell out your multi million dollar business venture to an employee of the market leader.
Even if Cover "forced" her they probably didn't need to convince her much because she was half shocked half angry

>>27784046
>Hehe you're so retarded you didn't even fight my main point
Nice reading comprehension.

>>27784087
Saying no isn't an argument retard

Seething here won't change anything.

No Kson stream today but her sister is having her 1 year anniversary in a few hours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDhkCuStvas

>>27783020
Nobody is blaming Kanata for this, it’s not like Cover gave her a choice.

>>27786842
I'm saying you can partially blame her actually.
You don't have to be angry at anyone. She has her own will and is not some victim.

>>27787040
Not really, she has to obey or her idol dream is dead.

https://twitter.com/ksonmng/status/1545720706725740548

>>27787040
Didn’t she just move out like a couple of months ago? And after an urgent meeting she has to move out again in a hurry? You do you anon, i’m sure Kanata wasn’t pressured to move out at all, let’s all just smile, raise our hands to the sky and praise our lord and saviour Cover who can do no wrong and has never overreacted before.

>>27787403
I'd much rather Cover gently push Kanata towards safety than see them forced to boot her a couple months from now.

>>27787480
We agree, so what exactly are we arguing about?