/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>27742464
Kson is the victim here, not Cover and their corpo slaves without free will.

>>27742624
Well Kanata chose to move out of her house with kson. There's some free will for you.

Vshojo offer no rsik management or law support.
They pretending to be and not to be a corpo is what leads to this situation.

I wonder if a vshojo member went out on stream and said fuck niggers or some shit if they would just keep her contract and branding

>>27742464
I would have preferred if she made a new corpo altogether. VShojo has a lot of baggage and a very, erm, "unique" culture that might not be well received by her JOP fans.

>>27742820
like when veibae wore the maga hat?

>>27742624
>Why didn't Kanata just quit and join vshojo if they're so good
>BECAUSE SHE JUST CAN'T OK
This line of shilling didn't work now they're literally resorting to:
>THEY'RE MIND CONTROLLED
Vshojo shills are pathetic.

>>27742771
>Vshojo offer no rsik management or law support.
the do

>>27742624
>corpo slaves without free will.
they could all be Indies, they choose to join out of their own free will and reap all the benefits and restrictions, it's a give and take.

>>27742958
Does she actually support trump?

>>27742624
>corpo slaves without free will.

>>27743000
no, she's a bong, but she's also antivax

Kson is finally free to ruin her career!

>>27742989
The doxxing incident showed they didn't.

>>27743065
>hiring cyber security
>working with cops in the investigation
>taking legal action against doxxers
damn youre right

>>27743004
>@elitemiko_memes

>>27742464
What does creative freedom actually entail? The freedom to do react content? Cause I've seen way more creative content come out of Hololive then I have from VShojo talent.

>>27742464
>Talent Freedom!
Freedom of what? Of eating pizza day and night? My fucking ass, you're washed up now Fatson. I respected you as Coco but God damn what a retarded menhera you've become.

>>27743527
>Defending slavery

>>27743527
Freedom to yab on and off stream and management don't tard wrangle you for it.

>>27742895
This was actually what ex-tatsus were expecting Kson to do (Kson Gang) The Kson Gang times where she played with Taishi and other 2views were the comfiest.
Instead, fucking Vshojo.

>>27743527
Well, VShojo members can joke about Abe being shot, can Hololive?

>>27742464
This whole shitshow boils down to the surprise Mknk recruitment, not on Kson, not on Kanata but Vshojo recruiting Mikeneko. That's what started this whole shitshow.

>>27745139
Yeah. What kind of company would hire literal fucking Japanese Amber Heard.

>>27745184
>same company that hired nyanners
>same company that hired veibae
>hired an actual camwhore
>hired a male who uses TTS and acts female
>hired someone who doesn't even stream for them
Are Ironmouse and Silvervale the only tolerable ones out of that company?

>>27745419
That's Western side, fucko, we're talking here about japanese autism.

>>27742624
>Corpo Slaves without free will

Then why the fuck they joined tho?

You are a dead brain cells anon

>>27742673
thanks for the laugh retard ^-^b

>>27745618
Money, instant fame. Why do you think so many people try to become regular IRL idols despite way worse conditions?

>>27745419
Thought Silvervale was the camwhore, from what ive seen she seems to be coom bait

>>27742464
Kson didn't force Kanata to move out. Also Kanata has probably known about Kson's Vshojo deal for months and both of them definitely talked this over. They're close friends and have lived together for quite a while. I also don't think Cover forced her to do this, because I don't think Cover would go so far.

>>27745618
>Reddit spacing

>>27746272
careful, if you try to paint cover in a good picture youll be called all sorts of names that has no impact whatsoever unless youre that... pathetic ig

>>27746366
I'm saying neither Cover nor Kson or Kanata are the bad guy here. This was a decision by Kanata and she probably knew about Kson's plans long before Kson actually signed anything.

>>27746076
Silvervale is unironically the most holo-like out of all of them,but people never talk about her.

>>27746731
Froot is basically a seiso gamer too and the only thing people have against her is that cheating rrat that I've never seen any actual evidence of.
But yeah, I think Silvervale is completely clean, I'm not aware of any rrats about her that aren't grasping at straws ("she was mean to a chat member once").

>>27746718
I getcha, i just find it funny how ppl twist whats going on with whatever narrative they have in their heads. Makes for good shit to read when eating lunch

>>27742464
HELLO SIRS
DO NOT REDEEM THE CREATIVE FREEDOM SIRS.

>>27746731
Except she's openly a whore

>>27743194
that would have totally done something about the third world faggots

>>27747334
gargle that cover cum buddy

>>27743065
>doxxing incident
What?

>>27747011
Reps, holy shit.
Literally seen the proof posted two days ago.
Her husbands callout post and her response.
No spoon feeding here faggot, find it.

I want kson to say something right wing and lets see how much talent freedom she has.

>>27750116
Vshojo got their server hacked and someone stole all the details on people who auditioned for them. That's why they never did anything with the applications, they knew they were all compromised. When a couple people came out and said they were doxxed they made up a narrative about a phishing site and pretended to investigate. No lawsuit to this day has ever been filed for damages or false use of copyright and the investigation never went anywhere. That's why when Nux reported on the investigation everyone freaked out, they didn't want anyone figuring out that they made it up

>>27750512
It's amazing how this story gets more fantastical every time someone reposts it lol.

>>27742895
Everyone would've preferred this.

>>27744002
>>27742895
Yes, she should have just stuck with the ksongumi. Sadly she fell for the vshitshow meme.

>>27742464
>talent freedom!
is this real? Jesus christ how pathetic, yeah freedom to talk about your disgusting whore habbits and your female stand up comedian tier jokes. god i fucking hate western vtubers so much. especially the disgusting whores with their 'freedom'. Hope they all die in a fire

>>27750880
yeah we get it you're a mysognist

>>27743050
And she added the reddit frog to her latest model, she's clearly full retard normalfag.

>>27750914
where the fuck do you think you are cunt

Everyone's got a price anon.

>>27750914
she will not fuck you, coward

>>27742464
Nyanners and Veibae are based.

>>27751551
worse, she's unironically /here/

Joining an agency like VShojo is what someone would know if they wanted to get experience if they wanted to create their own later down the line.

Die mad holoniggers

>>27743065
The doxxing incident showed they were literally working with the FBI.

>>27756184
She already HAD experience.

>gave up her roommate
Two friends agreed that this was the best course for both of them. Because real friends would make those kinds of sacrifices for one another.

>>27743770
Yeah, can you point me to zentreya's political meltdown that Vshojo never told her to take down please? oh wait....

>>27756226
>Doxxing
>Federal Crime
It was made up, idiot. The FBI would laugh at this report

>>27745843
So.... they used their free will to join despite knowing what was ahead.... Anon, do I really have to point out your retardation?

>>27756261
Proof vshojo told Zen and Zen didn't just delete it on their own? Next thread? Came to you in a dream?

>>27756261
>Talent first
>wait no not that!
Even Vsho's management are hypocrites

Kanata chose her black company over her friend. Rather than trust her friend she decided the corpo money was more important. Now she will be alone. KSON has plenty of other friends. Kanata just has co-workers she thinks are family. It's sad really

>>27747011
The cheating rrat is that she was flirting with people over discord while separated from her husband. Antis tried to get people mad because the guy was in the military, and no one cared.

>>27756413
She was having cyber-sex, the fact that you are trying to downplay it shows people cared

>>27756347
Yes. That doesn't mean they like those aspects of it you smoothbrained retard lol.

Why are Coco haters so retarded? Are they pretending?

>>27756573
>What is reading comprehension
Please show me exactly where the amerimutt education system failed you anon.

>>27756228
Two years as an employee with little decision making power.

>>27756325
The FBI is the agency in charge of dealing with cybercrime.

>>27756471
Cyber sex is not actual sex. Touch grass zoomoid.

>>27756727
Did they post any actual evidence? Or are you just taking their word for it?

>>27756573
Retard

in all seriousness, schizo shit aside, why is Vshojo attacking Holo like this? is this how gringos make business?
at least Nijisanji plays fair
why does America have to ruin everything every time?

>>27756255
wdym Kson went nuclear in a membership only stream, this was definitely forced on them also it's not just Kanata they are relocating Suisei and Anemachi who don't even live in the same apartment.

>>27757371
>in all seriousness, schizo shit aside, why is Vshojo attacking Holo like this?
Money
>is this how gringos make business?
Yes
>why does America have to ruin everything every time?
...

>>27757054
Nux was the one who said law enforcement was involved.

>>27757371
Yeah why a VTuber agency would get two proven top talents who were available.

>>27756123
So she's an election tourists, that's bad.

>>27742464
>Talent Freedom

lol
they don't FORCE talents to stream on twitch?

>>27758154
That is the price of betrayal, tatsucuck

>>27758495
>Force
All of them started on twitch before Vshojo was ever a thing you moron.

>>27758333
Nux's investigation wasn't independent, he repeated what Vsho told him

>>27756471
If you are such a faggot and a loser that you have to join the military, you deserve to be cheated on by your wife. She's one of the best vtubers in the sea of western trend hopper whores, you retards just can't cope with the fact she sent "cybersex" to some nerds while her "husband" was sucking cocks in the barracks

>People pretending to like Kanata now
Kanata was always the weakest link in Gen 4, her defining feature was literally being Coco's roommate, nobody gave a fuck about her otherwise, she has no particular talent beyond autism to smash her against something till it breaks(the sans shit).

Hell her last outfit is pretty a much a rip off of a nijis. Either mutual choice, or Cover required, regardless Kson unloads dead weight.

>>27759333
You have to be over 18 to post on this site, anon

>>27759468
Even Kson hates you

>>27759468
>her defining feature was literally being Coco's roommate
And poor. Piss Poor Tenshi!

>>27759656
Anon I'm sorry that to feel some kind of connection with your cucked soldier father you have to defend them on the internet from those evil cheating virtual girls. I'm sure your soldier father loves you even if you are not actually his son!

Coco simps are the absolute worst, truly the epitome of sunken cost fallacy.

>>27742895
>>27744002
>>27750849
This, everyone wanted her to start her own group, no one wants vshojo except vshojo shills that want to use kson to validate their company in jp

>>27747011
>froot is a seiso gamer
>literally dropped hard r's on live stream all the time

>>27756647
This, kson did nothing wrong

>>27742464
Man, it would be tragic if an angry Japanese otaku who was a big KanaCoco shipper suddenly focused 100% of his mind to committing violence and lashed out his revenge on VShojo. It's not like otaku have ever had less of a reason to lash out against someone before.

>>27760610
At least post the update

>>27760898
What the fuck is that Ohio looking tranny flag wasn't it like a faggot rainbow or something?

>>27743050
>antivax
Wtf? Why is Vei of all people based?

>>27743527
https://youtu.be/cqFIcw8YE_0?t=1390

>>27742989
The deranged menahera from Kson posting says otherwise
This is the point where a manager would say you're on break for two weeks

>>27744185
Wowzers, that sounds so wacky and politically incorrect!! If even Hololive can say nigger on stream I can't imagine what else they can say with that amount of freedom on their hands! Definitely gonna check em out!

>>27758468
>The single worst vtuber is a 2016 /pol/fag

>>27764446
I'm shocked! SHOCKED!!
Actually that's not shocking at all.
And of course she'd hate Shylily.

>>27742464
>gave up her room mate
So these are the copes that Cover shills are resorting to now. Someone asked Kanata to leave and it wasn't Kson.

>>27742673
Cover forced her to move out

What's the lore

>>27742464
Now they can talk about how much they love cum together on stream. That creative freedom is worth giving up your friends for.

>>27757371
Kill yourself spic you will never be relevant

>>27742464
cover should handled the situation with the chinks better. if they had we wouldn't even be talking about this shit.

>>27765333
The two former #1 supachat earners in Hololive are now joining a rival company together, one of which was fired for breaking NDA. The one that didn't break NDA and left Hololive on "good terms" still lives with a Holomember irl. That Holomem had an emergency meeting a few days ago (like two days after the announcement of the VShojo Japanese branch). Today it was announced she is moving out due to "risk aversion," i.e. Cover told her to pack her bags probably because of Mikeneko.

>>27765673
>seething this hard
lmao
I love it, keep going but be careful your going to have a heart attack

>>27765082
It's another move out or terminated kind of situations.

>>27765686
They destroyed the China branch to protect the traitor. She should thank Cover, instead of spitting in the face of her friends and fans

>>27765848
I don't think they threatened her with termination. I don't even know the legality of doing such since I doubt her contract includes who she can and cannot live with in her private life. I think Kanata is just a pussy and rolled over immediately to managerial pressure.

>>27765871
they punished the fucking talent because chinks got angry. hachaama has never fully recovered. don't give me that fucking bullshit.

>>27765082
>>27765848
Kekson forced Kanata to move, since she hired the leaky menhera

>>27758154
>they are relocating Suisei and Anemachi
False. She was planning to do it since before her one month break

>>27746272
Sir this is schizo thread. I'm going to have to ask you take your well reasoned take outside

>>27765956
They chose Coco and broke up with HoloCN, in exchange Kekson decided to hire a fallen angel to annoy Kanata and put her life at risk

>>27756647
nah, you tatsunocuck equally retarded
read
>>27765848
>>27765082

>>27766124
Yes, they chose Coco by making Zhang antis in her chat moderators.

I'll never understand Kson's whole "creative freedom" thing. She did nothing as an indie that she couldn't do previously other than facecam/cosplay streams and I watched her pretty regularly. This all put a bad taste in my mouth and probably won't watch her anymore sadly.

>>27742464
we know why k$on did it

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/vshojo-11-million-funding-round-vtuber-group-expansion-1784541/

>>27766124
oh so they didn't suspend coco,and hachaama when the shit with taiwan happened? weird.
>holocn
wasn't sacked because of coco. chinks were already making ludicrous demands,and cover figured out wisely that china was more trouble than it's worth.

>>27766226
This was innocent error, different from hiring a vengeful menhera to annoy Kanata

>>27766296
I'm going to laugh so fucking hard when they fail to break even, nevermind make a profit.

>>27766327
What matters is that in the end the Coco remained in Hololive and the Chinese left. And she thanked them by betraying her best friend

>>27758333
I'm not sure about law enforcement but apparently they use some PR agency also used by FBI to DMCA unfavorable coverage.

>>27756347
you are a legitimate fucking mongoloid

>>27766552
they would have to stream

>>27765871
And got her in banishment room.
Rob all collab, sponser,Hologra until she decide graduated

TALENT
FREEDOM
TO
HAVE
SEX
AND
DOXX
PEOPLE!
-
-
-
VWHOREJO!!

>>27766124
Artia want Hololive's downfall.

HololiveCN chose their fate by attacking Hololive and demand Yagoo fire from Hololive.

Artia killed HololiveCN

>>27766738
I understand her anger at Cover, but using Kanata as a hostage in this retarded fight makes her a terrible person

>>27766296
> break even
> not profit

Jesus christ
Are Vshoujo is charity company?

>>27761124
Why do I have the feeling Pippa gets all her opinions from /vt/.
Like the second I saw it was from her I knew exactly what she was going to say, lol.

>>27742464
She can’t help herself. She need to whore out.

>>27766845
And Kekson killed her friendship with Kanata

>>27743668
God damn she's busted. Legit fatter than me now lmao

>>27742464
Holy cope its been 6 days and you guys are still seething

>>27766883
? Are you out of your mind?
They have to depart because of risk management.

>>27766947
> This retard doesn't buy Kson and Kanata membership

>>27767165
The risk of Mike leaking Kanata's data. Guess who hired her?

>>27742895
That was my headcanon since last year, kson making her own agency for indies with potential (and no interest in chinese market which does complicate things a bit) but I guess guntrun just offered her a bag of money just to write VSHOJO in her twitter profile, it's not even clear if she's going to do anything more than she did as an indie, Vshojo members are not exactly known to be hardworking.

>>27767219
Are you talking about the post where she was angry that Cover didn't allow Kanata to have her data leaked by Mike?

>>27767070
its not like anyone on this board wouldn't have predicted at least a month of sperging over this if you had have told them before the announcement. Kanata's great escape will simply prolong it till they get back from vacation

>>27767070
Guess what? It's not going away any time soon. Kanata moving out has just added more fuel to the fire.

Next up will be vshojo getting blanket banned from hololive and nijisanji collabs. All because of kson and the NDA breaking needy streamer.

I feel very bad for you holobros.

Except I don't.

>>27767443
her post was seriously a dumb move that made everything worse for everyone. I thought she had two managers

>>27767704
Hi /b/omu, I miss your tits

>>27767671
>vshojo getting blanket banned from hololive and nijisanji collabs
It will all be worth it to see Mori sperg

>>27767882
I hope she joins Vshojo

>>27758922
because it was in the works for a long time retard

>>27767671
It would be some shit if Vshojo collabs just stopped, not because of anything the talents said in the past but only because of the formation of Vsj JP with Mike and Kson.
Granted I dont think Anykara would stop doing them, they'll just not acknowledge JP to not anger their Chinese fans, assuming VS JP even wants to collab with that company in the first place.

>>27767882
>>27767671
Nice ban guys!

>>27768190
It was before their stream debuts. They probably let that one happen because of it.

>>27768161
Well mouse has a colab with some hololive members in a week or two so we’ll have to see if they get canceled

>>27768161
The problem is vshojo have basically shown they're willing to poach former talent, especially NDA breakers. Now they're stepping into JP, there's a problem. They're not gonna just take holo people, former niji talent are also up for grabs too.

The NDA breaking issue is the serious problem with hololive and that's why they shit themselves and told Kanata it's not a good idea to live with kson any more. Not sure how niji feels but because of how much CN backing they have, kson is a huge liability to be associated with.

Now holo and niji management need to iron out the issues stopping EN collabs from happening with each other. They won't miss vshitshow once that's allowed.

>>27767746
Remember when coco gave advices to other holo members? Remember when she stopped mike from menheraposting? What happened to her?

>>27768161
but it's EN (males) who have the most chink fanbase

Leave Kson collabs to me, honey.

>>27761009
It was but then the trannies and the niggers and pedos had to have their say too.

>>27768421
Cope, at most itll be son and nazuna collab bans, mouse and the rest will still be free to collab, mouse even plans on playing games with haachama soon

>>27767322
You mean Kson leak Kanata data?

>>27768237
Ironmouse is in the forewarned collab.
Schedule made after the announcement.

>>27768859
I would worry more about Rushia after she turned out to be completely crazy

>>27769065
> You don't think Kson join Vshoujo because she won't let it happen in the first place

>>27745419
ackshually the camwhore is one of the founders iirc

>>27769201
I can no longer trust her after these lies

>>27766918
She literally parrots /vt/ talking-points and tries to pass them off as her own opinions

>>27742895
I mean she DID. Vshoujo Japan is a new branch. And she gets paid even if it goes tits up.

>>27766275
"I demand creative freedom!"
"Okay here. What will you do with it?"
"Uhh...."
Many such cases.

>>27771537
If you look at vshojo then creative freedom means watching youtube videos on stream.

>>27774193
>>27771537
Cope

>>27765848
Without a doubt this is due to pressure coming from Cover although I think it came in the form of warnings, not threats. There will certainly be concerns regarding operational security and conflicts of interest given this arrangement. Living with a former employee who is now working for a market competitor, AND that roommate is now working with a talent this company has fired previously? I don't think Kanata has ever had a noteworthy yab and it's because she makes decisions like this that she hasn't.

>>27742895
she could've made a company with Comdost :^)

>>27759468
You vshitshow reactubers will never understand the strength you're capable of by being a faithful idolfag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeQO9jsWMwE

>>27775040
KEK LMAO. How's HLive by the way? Oh wait that massively failed and everyone forgot it happened. They couldn't even stream on the platform themselves when they tried to.

All they do is stream Elden Ring (a game everyone else already plays, nothing new) on Twitch with a TTS voice. Even Natsumi Moe fucking hates them these days for dragging her down for years and never editing content they were supposed to make to the point she abandoned her YouTube channel (she made a new one barely anyone is aware of) and willingly became a 2view on Twitch to get away from them and Eilene.