/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>27734100
SEXON

>>27734100
currently in Menhera phase, because her best friend chose not to side with her

>>27734100
With the conflict of interest happening, is there a high chance this might impact future collabs with Rika/Guutara?

I wanted to do a KanaCoco OP but that would just attract schizos right now...

>>27734206
perhaps
just have to wait and see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v1THLW7JuQ

>>27734167
tenshi will find a new gf that she can leech from
nothing to worry about
such people don't deserve acknowledgment

>>27734222
Now and forever, probably.

important poll
http://poal.me/d7z7dj

>>27734264
add third option
yes, not gachikoi though

>>27734206
I like to think that Rika, who recently had her 11th year anniversary, would absolutely tell Cover to go f themselves if they try to restrict "Rika".

>>27734206
We know they are allowed to be friends behind the scenes still, whether they're still allowed to stream together is a mystery.

>>27734348
she's been a internet persona for that long!?
god damn

cakeson

Flaseflaggers in both threads trying to start a fanbase war, /vt/ really is just a replacement for /e-celeb/ isn't it? most of the people in this board don't even watch vtubers, they're only in it for the drama.

why she is always making heartfelt statements in the most mundane part of stream, superchat reading?

>>27734577
honhe

>>27734430
Pretty much.

>>27734430
Yeah it's super blatant that you have people posting on both threads making all sorts of disingenuous posts: the same person saying "Kanata betrayed her friend!" and saying "Kson betrayed her friend!" in both threads. They treat shitposting like it's a job, but they're not getting paid—they're just the kind of sad person who gets a thrill from trying to cause others pain.

>>27734400
I was stunned at the number too when she streamed her anniversary. So i think they are street-wise enough to continue (if they want to).

Same for Guutara who will be holding a 1-man live at like September? Not sure what she will be performing but she streamed the start of ticket sale and it sold out pretty fast.

Unlike Kanata (who was like 1 song every few month or year), they've had consistency with their RMs throughout and i'd say still have some cult followings that aren't there just to acknowledge their HL identities.

>>27734577
And there's always that one retard who ruins the mood

>The world everyone sees, the world we see and the world we want to show is so different

>It's sad, but a world built on a lot of tears and sacrifices isn't a good world, a world that uses vtubers and fans like hostages isn't a good world!

>But the emotional bond between vtubers is strong at all times
>Even if you're not allowed to show it to everyone, you still have deep friends.
>You can't control what's in your heart, no one can!
>Let's go everybody time to have fun

Is she delusional or what?

Kson should tell her not live and potencially have problems, because she cares for her.
Kanata wouldn´t ask her not to takes this opportunity just for her, cause she cares for her.
They haven't change at heart at all

>>27734622
>They treat shitposting like it's a job, but they're not getting paid—they're just the kind of sad person who gets a thrill from trying to cause others pain.
I think the word you're looking for is "hobby".

don't ever reply to the obvious shitposter

VFreedomjo

>Mike supposedly got to choose the details of her own design
>Makes it kind of look like Kanata
>Is menhera and obviously has now plugged her savior kson into her menhera complex
>Suisei who lives in the same building talked about having to move suddenly
>The exact details of the green board's leaks are fuzzy could be just manager names or even talent locations

I don't know man just seems like a shitty situation.

>>27734622
those are some nice wallscrolls

>>27734716
I swear PJK and kson already moved away from the Suisei building tho

I love this bitch and her big round butt

>>27734622
>They treat shitposting like it's a job, but they're not getting paid—they're just the kind of sad person who gets a thrill from trying to cause others pain.
The modus operandi of a seething chink

>>27734716
A large amount of holos suddenly had to move at the same time after it's made clear Leakenkeko gave their information to korekore. Korekore isn't such a huge piece of shit that'd he'd show this, so he outed Leakeneko as a giant lying psychopath who kson has gladly buddied up to.

vshojo

LMFAO

>>27734716
>Suisei who lives in the same building talked about having to move suddenly
She is in the old building, she didn't move with them.
>>27734716
>The exact details of the green board's leaks are fuzzy could be just manager names or even talent locations
what

>>27734846
do you have a pastebin or something where I can read the rest of the fanfic?

>>27734828
Look at the bright side - now any KanaCoco imagine will make them lose their mind.

>>27734889
Care to list 1 thing I said that isn't true?

>>27734768

They did. You can't expect retarded shitposters to have even the vaguest knowledge of what they're ranting about. If they had higher than subhuman IQ, they'd have better things to do.

>>27734880
Mike leaked some shit that got her canned, nobody knows exactly what she leaked because the person didn't publish it but it was enough to get even the biggest unity fags in the business to just let her get stalin'd without a single tear. Now being talent addresses would be crazy but Mike is fucking crazy, I don't hate her she just needs help but who knows what she leaked in her sperg fit.

>>27734828
I don't like the idea that everyone who doesn't like kson is a chink
there are substantial amount of idolfag holotards who love to spread hate on every girl that doesn't follow "the holo way"

>>27734938
True. I'm just sad and tired of sifting through all these retards. I just want her to not fake her smile.

>>27734913
Can you confirm the stuff you mention is true? Are you an Insider? Work in Cover?

>>27734959

I would also like to believe in a multicultural world of retarded shitposters, but the fact is most of these clearly ESL idiots can't go five minutes without bringing in HoloCN or their beloved Artia...

>>27735000
korekore, the guy who mekeshitko ran to after the mfmf situation, laid it all bare on stream. How new are you people? He literally showed the conversations of her saying she was going to burn it all down and that she shared everything with him.

>>27734648
who said this

>>27734956
I don't really trust Cover's claim that she leaked something to be desu.

>>27735116
she never denied it

>>27735110
Tier 2

Can someone post the T2 post to kill the rrats? Getting so sick of it

>>27735048
Yeah, I was there, It confirms Mikeneko's statement tho. The rest of the shit you mention is vt false narrative.

>>27735116
The dramatuber she leaked to published her DMs of her leaks, obviously he didn't publish whatever damaging shit she gave him because he didn't want his channel betting DMCAd but this is all old news. I agree Cover has fucked up many times but just to ignore basic information to fit the Cover bad narrative of the girls you like is silly. Rushia fucked up, its Japan not US you have to breach contract hard to ever get fired.

>>27735220
it was real in his head

shittiest decision ever

>>27735180
No, it's T2 for a reason fuckface.

>>27735220
Are a lot of holos who Rushia had offcollabs with suddenly not moving?
Was Leakeneko not outed as leaking personal information of holos(as confirmed by korekore)?
Did Kson not get leakeneko to join vshojo?
You're not disputing anything there.

>>27735145

Yeah, I didn't follow that shitshow too closely, but even in her defensive counterclaims after being fired, she was only quibbling over the fine details of what was leaked and claiming there was missing context, IIRC.

The only defense I can offer Rushia is that she seems too obviously stupid and crazy to also be touted as some kind of evil mastermind.

>>27735221
t. Cover bootlicker

>>27735314
>A lot
Only Lamy, Suisei and Kanata (New).
Ok anon you really need to stop reading /vt/

>>27735364
Marine and lap too

>>27735346
>Nyoo its impossible for women to ever do wrong or women with mental issues to ever make mistakes or break the law

t. has never lived with women for extended periods of time

>>27734649
kson wouln't*

>>27735221
Well she broke NDA probably by outing herself as Rushia, but I haven't seen evidence that she leaked something sensitive and harmful (to anyone other than herself).

>>27735393
I heard lap has been wanting to move since forever

>>27735431
yet she only did it after Rushia was fired
what a WEIRD coincidence

>>27735405
She already did that in the wake of the mafumafu thing and Cover released a statement defending her, and then sometime after that happened she leaked more shit again nobody knows the exact details but she got canned, and every holo didn't bat an eye not a tear not a squeak because even they thought it was fucked up.

>>27735393
Lap has been moving since her debut because she has been using Macdonal Wifi for stream.

>>27735465
meds
now

>>27735405
Cover's statement says she does and I have more reason to believe them than the person who goes on menhera rampages and has to delete her tweets because of how they make her look. Even Kson had to tell her to shut the fuck up before she made things worse for herself.

>>27735169
>>27734648
wtf so kson really is as crazy as rushia is

>>27735465
be sure to wear your Tin-foil hat anon. You sound extremely retard now.

>>27735501
If you believe in Cover's statement so much, why did they break this rule by influencing Kanata to move?

>>27735501
Kson wouldn't be friends with her if she was leaking their addresses and trying to hurt them. Until Souchou debuted her only friends were Megumi and Holomen. Also there's the Kanata thing that just happened.

Heimin here who’s also been a fan of your oshi since the day she mocked Kanataso’s shirt and it ended up skyrocketing her tshirt sales as a meme.
Please don’t believe the shit that is being said in her thread and the rest of /vt/, at least half the IPs are from bad people, i knew something was up when i read kson’s members post from 3 days ago but i didn’t expect it to lead to this, they always had each others backs and your oshi’s streams was the only thing that kept me going when Kanata was in meetings hell, her streams talking about the disney trip is still one of my all time favorites.

I hate this and i hate that my oshi was stuck between a rock and a hard place, i really think she had no other choice but i still feel like i have to apologize for her, i hope someday they can live together again, the way Kanata’s general attitude changes when she talks about your oshi is precious to me.

This is all so unfair and i hate not being able to do anything about it except accept it with a fake smile, but as Kson says “stay positive” even if it’s hard.

>kanata has to move because of kson
>suisei soon homeless because of kson
>emergency meetings because of kson
>collabs prohibiited because of kson
we can't stop winning. hololive is done for

Great thread. See what she started? Literally nobody would care anymore if she hadn’t got mike into her new company.

>>27735627
It's not Kanata's fault.

>>27735605
Why would Kson know what she leaked after not being in the company? Why would rushia be forthright if it was bad? The only people who know are Cover staff (who got dmd privately what the leak was), Korekore, and Rushia herself and whatever they told the talents.

>>27735627
Thanks anon.

>korekore says it was personal information of holos
>rushia never disputes it
>Cover thought it was bad enough to fire her over it
hmmmmmmmmm

>>27735627
>i hate that my oshi was stuck between a rock and a hard place, i really think she had no other choice
That's what the fandead said.

>>27735713
in your little fanfic Mikecat leaked their location and Kanata knows this, why would she not tell Kson then?
besides, if she really did leak the locations, why move now and not before? what does joining VShojo change? are they afraid Mikecat is gonna give their locations to VShojo and they're gonna launch an assasination attempt?

>hating kson
>then hating kanatan
>now hating miker
who's next? yagoo? twitch CEO? Abe? o7

>>27735803
nta but finding real estate in toyko isn't easy, especially that allows easy travel to the studio

>>27735768
>>korekore says it was personal information of holos
When did he say that?

>>27735627
you don't speak for every heimin
fuck off

>>27735581
Because they only did according to Kson's vague membership post.

>>27735934
Meds.

>>27735853
>studio
wouldn't they change studios as well? I mean if she leaked the Holo's location then she can also leak the studio's location
This whole rrat just falls apart so easily when you think about it

>>27735627
bro... I think it's time to move on
I know this hurts but shipping them when they clearly aren't interacting anymore is just creepy as hell and in bad taste

>>27735819
o7

>>27735910
Nobody asked

>>27735983
Your tinfoil hat has fried your brain.

>>27735803
I doubt that Cover up and shared the actual leaked screenshots with all the talents they probably just paraphrased it to them, also stop pilpulling just because you now have to defend Mike to make your own girl look good theres no point in it just makes you sound desperate. I don't know how Japanese conflict of interest laws work and having people living together with managers of a competing business.
>owo mike just leaked some innocent shit enough to let cover give up their biggest earner over a technicality believe all women
Like come on man.

>>27735987
The studio is most likely just one of dozens of businesses in a building, not a standalone place. Like how everyone knows the office address, but it doesn't mean anything.

>>27735934
>Kson is spearing a false narrative about her best friend
Don't think so, chief.

you have like three threads to discuss, why are you doing it here?

>>27735581
How the fuck can anyone still support this company holy fucking shit?

>>27735910
wrong thread, schizo.

>>27736063
>Mikecat leaked their home's location
>for some reason Cover only vaguely mentioned it to them and didn't bother to give them all the details, even though they could be in trouble
kek
nice fanfic

Kson is on topic in most threads if you think about it

>>27735910
Kanata is leaving after her current contract ends. Can't wait for the coverbot tears.

>>27736166
>Mikecat leaked their home's location
dafuq did I miss?

when did this happen?

>>27736205
something he made up

Kanata herself said it was her idea. It’s not like she couldn’t have said she talked with Cover and they said she should. SHE decided. Why would she want someone like Mikeneko coming over? Are you all just saying Kanata is a liar? I’m seeing a lot of Kanata hate

>>27736253
>Kanata didn't say she's being forced to move
No shit

>>27736253
kanatan often attempts to shift the blame onto herself in her own way of saviorfagging. she's probably white lying about something to shield everyone else.

>>27736166
>Has never worked in a business before

Well if it was vshojo they would be curled up like gremlins gossiping over discord leaks but its a company they aren't just going to do that lmao. At best they would tell the people who specifically had their stuff leaked in private and then everyone else would get a generic statement "This person leaked this kind of thing". Again if your nonsensical narrative made sense then Cover wouldn't have released a statement defending Rushia the day she did the discord leak on Miko's stream.
>Rushia purposefully leaks mafumafu in some menhera fit to force him to sack up with her
>Stream privated, Cover statement
>Rushia dms korekore to try and say she isn't with Mafumafu
>Mafumafu drops rushia, Cover probably tells Rushia she is taking a 2 week vacation
>Rushia leaks a bunch of shit to kore kore
>Fired

>>27736253
>Kanata herself said it was her idea
yeah sure bro. totally doesn't have anything to do with that emergency meeting bro.

>>27736199
keep dreaming on schizo

>>27736403
>kanata is a whore and aliar
Why are you all like this?

>>27736474
Not going to say she's a whore. But she's definitely a LIAR.

>>27736076
She merely stated her opinion on the result of the situation. You're the one making it into a narrative about Kanata and Cover. You have no idea how this decision was agreed upon, what discussions led to it, how much input Kanata had in it, what exactly it's supposed to solve. We know literally none of this except for the fact that Kson laments the fact that "industry bad". We don't even know whether or not she truly disagrees that it's a necessary measure.

There are things that don't add up. Why was the meeting sudden if Kanata allegedly had known about this for months? Did she not tell anyone? Why was she the only one who knew? Why is security a concern now? Does it have anything to do with other members? Were there circumstances that changed something? If Kanata actually didn't know, why was Kson keeping it a secret? Maybe she knew about Kson but not about the other member? If so, why wasn't she told? And so on. We don't know. All we know is her personal opinion on the outcome of the situation she never participated in, being presented with a fact. And yet here we are, taking "sides".

RingFit 3D, are we gonna make headway against the architects??

>IRL RFA will never happen again
Also she mentioned earlier she will ask Vshojo staff about her camera

>>27736602
>she will ask Vshojo staff about her camera
thank fucking god some actual good news.

>>27736602
she was never really into lewd stuff

>>27736576
my penis is ready

>>27736602
>she will ask Vshojo staff about her camera
joining was worth it

Hey bros i can't watch the stream yet because of work. Are there any intresting stuff besides the food stuff i saw in the previous thread?

good stream
I liked the part where she hinted that kanata is a filthy liar and nothing but a puppet for the suits

>>27737297
Hey I own a suit, where do I sign up for my Kanata puppet?

>>27736514
That is a mistranslation from some anon in another thread. Kanata hasn’t known about it for months, or at least she hasn’t said that. She told us the whole moving thing came suddenly during the meeting she had this week, after some things had “changed”.

>>27737269
I think the behind the scenes stuff of AX was interesting. It was definitely fun to watch.

>>27737269
The cosplayer got to see and probably touch her naked boobies.

>>27737463

>>27736660
>flashes her feet for the camera
>braless pokies
Uh huh

>>27737433
It kinda pisses me off that we'll probably never know details in full but I'm getting used to this by this point.

>>27737518
>flashes her feet for the camera
Is that lewd?

>>27737518
The nipple thing wasn't on purpose. And feet aren't lewd, unless you're a pervert, and surely you aren't, right?

>>27737518
>>flashes her feet for the camera
what a slut

Who fucking leak mem post in another tread?

>>27734206
I don't think Cover has any legal right to restrict roommate activities.

>>27737582
>pervert
anon we born like that it's not our fault

>>27737701
I did.

>>27737701
Please learn English.

>>27737701
How could you expect anyone to answer that when this is an annonymous image board, especially with the amount of falseflagging going on right now.

>>27737746
Why?

>>27737793
autism

>>27736253
I dont know whether she was forced or not but I know Kanata loves Mike and kson and doesn't want people shit talking them

>>27737793
Because people kept posting the translation and i wanted to know if the post was actually real.

>>27737701
Someone on a TW forum who crossposted it to the farms and then it ended up in a bait thread.

>>27737793
Because people were too chickenshit to save the image.

>>27737701
What does it say?

For the tourists chama

>>27733072

>>27734254
what the fuck. fuck off please

sleep tight kson

>>27738080
If Kson just got Vshojo blacklisted from Holo collabs I'll kneel

>>27734993
>I just want her to not fake her smile
Fake it till you make it
So when is she gmi ;')

>>27737463
Can i get a timestamp please?

>>27734254
I'm glad I dropped Tenshi, I knew she was a leech and never cared about kson, she only did it to protect her image.

>>27738080
kanata chose her dream job and actual friends over a fat menhera who wants to collab with whores and men
the nerve

>>27735627
Thanks for giving your thoughts. I see the haters and dramabaiters are responding to you as well, but your message is heard by Souchou's actual supporters. We know they continue to be close and to care about each other.

>>27736253
>I’m seeing a lot of Kanata hate
This is an absolute lie lol

>>27738207
>New IP

posting Kanata's members posts....a new low

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1545439698646335488

I think vshojo will be good for kson but I feel she has been naïve about the repercussions of her decision. It feels like she genuinely believes nothing has changed and is shocked other corpos, fans and antis see this as a big deal.
Hope it works out like she expected

>>27738222
How dare you, kson is Vtubing Jesus. Kanata is on the wrong side of history.

>>27738447
Schizos have been trying to start fanbase wars for the past few hours

>>27738524
wow she is turning into rushia

>>27738524
Spicy

>>27738524
It's sad seeing her try her best and yet schizos are still trying to paint her as someone that has Hololive.

>>27738691
Schizos are all of them a bunch of brand loyalist yes men.

>>27738588
My same feelings. I wouldnt mind if the other vs girls were hardworkers as her but she is alone in trying to prove the world indies are aa great aa corpos

>>27738588
Truth is she completely fell for their marketing and truly thinks she's doing something good for the industry because of it

>>27738524
It's sad seeing her try her best and yet schizos are still trying to paint her as someone that hates Hololive.

>>27738524
This is why you shouldn't vaguepost when your audiences are made up of schizos and shippers.

>>27738524
I can't believe she orchestrated Abe's assassination

>>27738837
so, vtuber fans?

>>27738588
>>27738754
You guys are shitting on her? I thought Vshojo loves vtuber culture?

>>27736253
What do you expect her to say anon? "Yagoo forced me to do this"? No way is she shitting all over the company she works for, she might as well quit if she's going to do that.

>>27738588
For one, if it was really Cover "suggesting" Kanata to move, then she's really on their bad side now. Expect all vshoujo collabs to be banned. There might have been a sliver of a chance of holo-kson collabs before which is now a clear 0%.
I don't think she thought about how making a ex-holo group would be seen as an act of aggression and poaching by hololive, because that's an actual existential threat to them.

>>27738192
I can't remember... it's at some point after she shows the backstage picture on screen.

>>27738524
We trust you Souchou! If you say you'll never be tied down to another corp, we know you won't join another!

>>27736253
Are you fucking serious? Do you know how NDA works?

I thank god everyday she doesn't egosearch on english but she shouldn't do it on japanese either.

>>27738524
I don't good in Japanese
Would you kindly translate it for us.
I don't want to miss context and I asked you nicely

>>27738868
Joining vshojo is the biggest mistake of her career, all of her english streams involving them have been subpar and now she's facing consequences she should've anticipated

>>27737793
Why not? You talk shit then let people be the judge.

>talk shit
>wtf I didn't say nothin!

kson's basically dumped her american branding and her english is even worse

oh no no no ameribros we got too cocky

>>27738871
If she said that people would still be schizoposting about her going full Rushia and possibly endangering others. She can't win in a situation like this, no matter what she said people have already made up their mind before her stream.

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1545437371856191490?s=20&t=JqfNhUmHPXYsRrzo-2qG-A
Yup, she's sad.
I will never understand why the vtuber community is so schizophrenic, what is it about anime girls that brings all the lunatics?
Why can't people just enjoy streams?
The worst part is that she legitimately loves vtuber culture, the same one that keeps trying to twist every word she says for different agendas.

>>27739033
who are you quoting?

>>27738754
It actually is a good deal for her. They pretty much only provide tech assistance but that's literally the only thing she needs.

>>27739067
She talked shit in her member's post. It got posted everywhere. Now she's damagecontrolling.

>>27738937
>I thank god everyday she doesn't egosearch on english
Her English has deteriorated so much, I doubt she can anymore.

Even a year after leaving hololive behind, having moved on and focused on her own projects, the hololive fanbase still manages to sour everything for her...

>>27739064
She read some google statistics

>>27739108
>he thinks it's real

>>27739108
She doesn't hate Hololive, she hates the system. She said it in English in the stream you didn't watch.

>>27738524
>tier membership posts
>make one that can be interpreted in a shitload of ways
>proceed to ego search
lol
you're telling me she didn't expect a meltdown?

>>27739117
to be fair she was naive if she expected no consequences from starting a brand new branch rival to hololive using her own IP

Viva la revolution and shit like that is fine that's her thing, but if she truly commits to it, she'll have to face bad times

>>27739064
if she cant schizo posts which accompanies anyone that is remotely popular then she might just as well quit
what a fucking weak willed faggot
kanata was right to fuck off

>>27739117
>having moved on
Except she didn't though. She kept talking shit and vague posting. Her reputation is now ruined. Really fucking retarded.

>>27736376
You got your order wrong. Cover's statement was after Rushia went to Korekore. It was literally stream gets privated, Rushia dms Korekore a few hours after it, Korekore streams on the next day, Cover puts statement 3 days later.

>>27739075
Attaching her brand to another brand that is widely disliked and seen as a competitor to her best friends company while convincing herself she's somehow still indie to get some tech support she could've hired someone to do like how she hired mane-chan is not a good deal

>>27736253
Kanata isn't a liar but it doesn't mean Cover isn't forcing her hand. It is obvious she was given a list of ways that Cover would consider her as having violated her NDA, causing her to be fired. With her knowing that, she accepts it is unfeasible that she won't break whatever options she was given and decided that if she wants to continue pursuing her career in hololive, that she has to be separated from kson.

>>27739117
>keep talking shit about the company
>pull in the recent person fired by the company
>omgggg leave me alooonneeeeee

>>27738524
its definitely about japanese rrat sites. the worst one is really fucking stupid low quality and schizo but its getting many clicks
the owner always picks schizo posts/rrats from anti threads on 5ch and pushes them like the latest news. also the site has plenty of chink bugs

>>27739289
>It is obvious she was given a list of ways that Cover would consider her as having violated her NDA, causing her to be fired.
jesus take your medications you watch too much soap operas

>>27738908
>she's really on their bad side now
I dont think she is on their bad side. I think they are just treating her as a new business rival and as they have a dominant market position ls so it looks like them being total assholes.

She seems pissed at the moment but a statement(whether she means it or not) to calm the waters would be good in easing tensions between fans

>>27739289
>it doesn't mean Cover isn't forcing her hand
Keep your rrats to yourself, anon.

>>27739265
They really are not disliked outside of this community. The big 3 there have better viewership than the majority of HoloEN. People like them.

>>27739289
>It is obvious
>it was revealed to me in a dream

What did I miss

Has anyone considered that Kanata has to move out due to the 3D studio problem? If Kson wants to be the indie saviour, she might be inviting a bunch of basically randos into their house and then Kanata has to either dox herself to them every time or hide out in her room until they are gone.

Just turn the fucking screen off.

>doing the style of agency she was considering setting up
>got impressed when they did some basic management work during her collabs
Shouchou has already said why she joined, she probably never considered the fallout

>>27739117
I try really hard to avoid making posts like this because the comeback is always "oh you hate corpos!" but there's really no other way around it.
Hololive gave her fame and success she would have never achieved without Cover, and yet anyone that truly knows her knows she values friendship, positivity and fun much more than money and fame, so it really is a curse she can't get rid off.

On one hand she gained friendships that will last her a lifetime thanks to hololive, but now streaming isn't as fun as it used to be when she has Hololive antis trying to twist every word she says.

Before hololive she was a foreveralone autist that talked about her bangya days and old collegue friends, she got her human interaction dose with her 200 viewers on niconico, now she has friends she can hang out with, so her Hololive experience is still overall positive, but the cost is really fucking big.


Slowly but surely they're taking the fun out of streaming.

>>27739402
Kanata isn't Kson pet and made her own decision
you can hate her if you want
but that is just delusional

>>27739402
Two girls awkwardly tiptoeing around a topic that triggered fans and now one is doing damage control.

>>27739416
That doesn't explain why she is suddenly moving now in such a hurry.

______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________kakapo

i smell break

>>27737811
>I know Kanata loves Mike and kson and doesn't want people shit talking them
and so she decides to leave kson which in result people now are shitting on them. Kanata is a fucking genius.

>>27739289
>It is obvious
>the voices in my head told me this

I fucking hate this bitch

I honestly don't know what the fuck she expected

>>27739541
Wouldn't be surprised if she takes a one week break before the official Vshojo debut

I think you lot are missing the point that Kanata had to move because Cover thinks Kson has become too much of a liability now to her identity.

KSon's clearly showing her irl self more nowadays and sooner or later someone's gonna recognize her out there, potentially stalk her and put Kanata in danger.

At least that's how I look at it idk

What are the japs schizos saying?

bros....are we the baddies????

>+1 IP
>+1 IP
>+1 IP

>>27739590
Does she have experience working in the real world because her speech sounds like something only a young and inexperienced person would say?

>>27739618
She was showing herself almost just as much while she was with the company

>>27739618
>KSon's clearly showing her irl self more nowadays
Do your fucking reps. She attended cons and showed up in livestreams and on TV.

>>27739599
...please no.

That would mean the next substantial stream would be another chit chat to talk about whatever the fuck she did during the break.

Anything but the 5th consecutive zatsu.

>>27739644
We are just baldies

How the fuck did she not know about vtubing having one of the most tribalist fanbase in the entertainment industry? fucking hell man, she got schizos for the last of her life now, just like mikeneko

When's the next stream on twitch?

>>27739222
>>27739232
>>27739299
When has Kson ever talked shit about Hololive? She threatened to sue a site for hurting the "people and place she loves" by twisting her words and taking them out of context.

You know there's a difference between hating Hololive and wanting vtubers to be more free, right?
Besides, how many talents has Cover poached from Nijisanji? i understand you Hololive fanatics don't know what the fuck you are talking about but at least you could use common sense before posting.

>>27739599
what about outfit reveal?

>>27739416
thats probably one of the reasons. also there will be a bunch of off collabs. idk what kson wants to achieve with vshojo jp but if she wants more vshojo members, that will be inevitable. if i were kanata, well, i wouldnt want to show my real identity to them.

though this shit happened all of sudden, it seems. the moving wasnt going to happen, i think

>>27739265
I tend to agree with you at this point. My counterpoint is that linking up with their brand gives her potential for further growth and opportunities she might not have had if she stayed independent. Her revenue and memberships were stable but this should give them a bump

>>27739644
We're the society.

And the VTubers are the Jokers.

>>27739788
free? like she was an an indie? where she did crazy stuff like build gundams and show her ass?

>>27739832
Please keep proving how retarded and toxic hololive fans are, you're only making my argument stronger.

>>27739351
Kson doesn't think she is on their bad side but from Cover's point of view she basically kicked off what is an existential threat to them. And I honestly believe she is too naive to have realized this and thought they could all coexist and hold hands.

>Kanata says she can't stream for a while due to [make up some family bullshit]
>Kson doesn't make that retarded member post
>things can resume after the unknown move
>they can still hang out and occasionally reference each other like usual
wow that was so hard
>BUT THEY'D BE LYING
they lie all the fucking time

>>27739289
Not sure why people are flipping out at this, it makes more sense than most of the speculation, and is definitely more plausible than "kanata just chose to leave and cover management had nothing to do with it."

>>27739458
>streaming isn't as fun
>Hololive antis trying to twist every word she says
Most vtubers stream without getting into company or industry gossip. Once you feed the rumor mill it gains a life of its own.

the worst thing about all this is she went to LA and left Kanatan all alone to deal with her rabbit's health problems. Kanata was always there for her, then she fucks off when she gets a whiff of Veibei's diarrhea

>>27739823
It's definitely a bonus for her to potentially even double her subscribers through EOPs, it just seems counterintuitive to her previously claimed goals as it helps nobody but her

>>27739117
The shadow left by Holo is pretty big. And ngl.... she have not out-grown her "parting gift" from her time at Holo. She have not even passed her old channel yet. She's still somewhat coasting on her reputation from back then and even that is kinda running out, which is why she made the jump.

If I'm Kanata, that is quite happy with her current job that gives her chance to be musician and idol and have tons of merchs made for her, if she actually says to her that she wants to join Vshojo, I will probably say that she should get back as Coco instead. Heck, Kanata will probably even vouch for her. I can understand if kson do not even want to talk with anyone about her plan since if anyone knows about her plan, their recommendation will probably to let her go back as Coco.

>>27739663
More than most vtubers, tourist
She's just idealistic.
The idea that only young and inexperienced people have a problem with a fucked up world is just cope from a bunch of bootlicking sheep that will never aspire to a better way of doing things.

>>27739932
>and left Kanatan all alone to deal with her rabbit's health problems.
What was she supposed to do? Also sit there staring at the thing before taking it to the vet?

>>27739802
Maybe they hoped Cover would be lenient but they weren't.

>>27739108
>She talked shit in her member's post
but she didn't, though? Did the voices in your head told you this again?

Should I ignore my principles and read that membership leak? is it worth it to lose my soul?

>>27740074
Stop being melodramatic. She just lodges criticisms at Hololive while remaining friends with Kanata. Same as before.

>>27739542
whether she is right or not she did it to avoid these situations in the future. With the best will in the world spergs gonna sperg. It had been a year but ppl still bringing up PKJ and yujin c every stream. Hey still love each other

>>27740151
>kanata lives with her for 2 years
>suddenly moves out
>still friends
do you really believe that?

Fuck all this

I'm quitting Vtubers and going back to gacha

>72 IPs
Why the fuck are you all in here? Shouldn't you faggots be shitposting in the kanata thread?

>>27740151
Is anyone surprised that this menhera is ODing on copium right now? If you want to share her miserable fate go ahead but leave Kanata and Hololive out of it, they did NOTHING wrong.

>>27740277
People like you attract them.

>>27740277
i'm pretty sure it's niggers from kiwi farms

It's over

>>27739117
And now you understand why every other fanbase hates holobronies and why they've consistently been run off of every board they've infested. They're a plague. They came WITH a plague. They're a tumor on this hobby and they're even a blight on their own girls, who they'll turn on and rip apart the second it looks like they might not toe the line.

>>27740542
stream ended an hour ago

>>27740193
Certainly not as close as when they're in the same company. And now they're effectively in rival companies there are policies to think about. Stuff that Cover would turn a blind eye to before because she used to be their employee, now they can't.

But that's all we can infer from the company side. The personal side, we will never know what they talked to each other about until they tell us.

>>27740396
>WE'RE BEING RAIDED
Or maybe shitposters just found an easy target.

>>27739832
IS THAT

AN ASSCHEEK

HELP ME YAGOO IM GOING INSAAANENEEEE

>>27739788
I agree but you have to admit some of her statements whether criticising the industry or praising vshojo are going to be interpreted fairly or unfairly as attacks on hololive. "Vshojo is a group that believes in talent freedom and is more like a family" is going to be read by those with bad intentions as "hololive hates talent freedom and isn't like a family". In this regard she should choose her words carefully not to avoid pissing people off to avoid blowback that will hurt her mental

>>27740193
Why the fuck not? You need to live together to remain friends? What?

>>27740572
I'm pretty sure you're also part of the plague. You're on this board after all.

>>27740652
they were dating retard.

Souchou, if you are reading this please start the summer event on the ARK server, thanks!

>>27740715
you think she comes here?

That's actually kind of funny.

>>27740700
Yeah, dating me.

>>27739618

>I have no idea what Kson's been doing the last five years, the post

>>27740791
Someone please think of the poor clippers, how will they survive now that they can't milk kanacoco anymore?

I don't go to schizo jap sites. Can someone please tell me what fake picture she's referring to?

>>27740917
Someone edited a member post of hers.

>>27739879

I don't think pretending to still be roommates from now to infinity was going to fly, anon. This disclosure was going to come sooner or later, better to just get it out and let it blow over then try to make it a coverup that gets eventually revealed.

>>27740917
The now-deleted T2 membership post wasn't real, Anon. Kson would never lie.

Wait, Kson took her nice with her to America? Won't that make her different from the average japanese kid and ruin her life?

>>27741057
anon, if you're going to shitpost, at least do your research first.

>>27739893

Too many fucking irrational people here, whether it comes from "Must Protect Cover" or "Must Protect My Ship" or "Must use this to attack Kson while making obvious bug noises"

I don't see Kanata as lying, I don't have any negative feelings towards her because of this whatsoever, but people who genuinely think Cover had no hand in this very sudden decision are beyond deluded. I'm not upset at Cover about this shit either, it is what it is and that's all that it is.

>>27741136
I'm not, shitposting now is about Kanata and Kson's relationship, I'm just asking a genuine question.

I wonder how the Kson Nazuna relationship dynamic will turn out
friendly?
familial?
flirty??

>>27741265
They fuckin'

>>27741307
NO!
They huggin'

>>27741225
That's mamanechan's kid, not her niece.

Guys she's clearly just grieveing over Shinzo Abe's death

>>27741380
She most likely hated him. Probably got really happy when she heard the news.

>>27741380
He was a good man, what a rotten way to die.

>>27740396
Is it a slow day on Kiwi Farms? No updates about Ethan Ralph?

When you lie repeatedly, eventually people stop believing you. Hope she learned her lesson from all this.

>>27741412

>stay positive
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1545437371856191490

>>27741412
>She most likely hated him
She should have been married to a salaryman and have 4 kids with him

looking at old clips to try and remember what their dynamic was like
despite seeing each other all the time off stream there's surprisingly little to go on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBh2zOaaZqM

>>27741211
I would never expect fans to turn against their oshi but the least they could do is not shit on the person that has had Kanata's back countless times, it's like they forget years of streams.

I would think the same of a Tatsunoko shitting on Kanata, it's fine to agree with her decision (i do so too, yab prevention is good) but attacking the one partner who's always helped their oshi makes them look ungrateful and clueless, how quickly one goes from raiding Coco streams asking about Kanata's health to calling her a whore that shouldn't be close to their oshi.

Mom look I'm on the telly

>>27741587
>I'm done with corporations
>joins
>Stay positive
>follows this with addressing shit she found ego searching

>>27741746
Please don’t believe those posts are from actual heimin, the thread is being raided.

>>27741746
Wise poster

>>27741746
After their struggles in the beginning of joining HL, it was mostly Kanata getting Kson's back and wiping her ass for her. Like it's enough to look at what each one of them has accomplished in the last year. Kanata is only getting better and focusing on her work while Kson is a fucking useless sinking ship. Now that her independent career didn't pan out she wants to cling to vshitjo. Why does Kson even need to make any comments about this situation and make it worse with vague posts? She is being a total menhera bitch right now, I used to respect her but this ain't it.

>>27741747
Why do these faggots always blame this place and not like I dunno, maybe reddit or something

>>27738487
Cute!!

>>27741747
>an actual SEA
Shocking.

>>27742022
CREATIVE FREEDOM BABY! NO HEAVY HANDED MANAGEMENT, IT'S ALL ON HER OWN NOW

>>27741981
>nah bro these people don't exist

>>27742052
Reddit doesn't allow uoh threads, that's why

>>27741746
People are unstable right now, the whole board is. I'll forever be favor of their friendship and it's because I think it can withstand anything I don't think this is going to change anything other than distance they have to walk to visit one another. I don't like Cover but their punishment for "breaking NDA", real or not, is extremely severe, complete termination and erasure. I know kson wouldn't want that for Kanata even IF she had something to fall on like kson had. She knows how much it means for Kanata. I don't like it but I'll never let it make me feel angry at either of them. It's just life. They'll find a way.

>>27742388
Go on retard, how about you try leaking NDA from your workplace
oh wait, you're just a fucking NEET who doesn't know how the real world works, silly me

>>27742509
why are you so mad bro
chill

don't mind me, just enjoying the mayhem on both side

>>27742388
>their punishment for "breaking NDA", real or not, is extremely severe, complete termination and erasure
And she was lucky.

This is just making me hate vshojo more to be honest

I just don't want her to be alone bros. It's not good to live alone as a woman in general, plus knowing that your ambitions led to it is just not a good feeling.

>>27742628
Why would you like them? They're all vapid whores who are either ashamed of their past or do mental gymnastics to appease whatever snowflake crowd is currently there even if it means repeatedly contradicting themselves.

>>27742628
That implies you didn't hate them at some point.

>>27742628
this but hololive.

>>27741746
It's just schizos fighting among themselves and some idiots the bait.

>>27742628
thats a weird way to spell hololive

>>27742628
I always hated VShojo.

she's so cute bros...

>>27742727
Me too. Ugh is so frustrating.
If she evers feels down i knew she at keast had kanata a few steps away.

https://twitter.com/paikanakoko/status/1545453026026016768
Report this when you have time.

>>27743195
What, you think she's going to kill herself?
You're absolutely nuts, she would NEVER do that.

>>27743078

>>27743195
I can't see Kanata moving too far away. Would be ironic if her next place is like next door or just a floor above.

>>27743415
mike moving in next door and you have a chuuba dorm

>>27743275
Not about killing herself but getting depressed and such if something goes bad. Like who thebfuck in vshojo is gonna have her back?

Another depression arc let's go

>>27741211
Cover obviously had a part in this decision and saying otherwise is delusional
I don't believe that they forced her into moving but they certainly did convince her to make that choice because ultimately, this was the right decision

>>27743549
It's not just that, there's security in numbers. It's different if the person is in another unit even next door honestly. there's something psychological about it all. The feeling of an apartment lived in with others and not just yourself. idk, maybe I'm just sappy.

>>27739108
>cover corp shouldnt tell my friend she has to move out, it's not fair. but we will still remain friends because they don't control us
"OMG WHY IS SHE SHITTING ON KANATA"
i know yagoo's cock is deep up your ass and you love the feeling of his cum pumping into you as your mind breaks, but JESUS ask him to stop for one second, your asshole needs a rest and it might help you learn to read.

>>27743771
kek good one

>>27740193
yeah and it TOTALLY has nothing to do with the emergency meeting that kanata had to attend literally the day after the VShojo announcement, nothing to see here, your corporate overlords never do anything wrong, keep sucking down their cum

>>27743771
Better than being a tatsunocuck I guess

>>27743914
weak response

>>27743577
>don't believe that they forced her into moving but they certainly did convince her to make that choice because ultima
Cover: "We are not going to tell you what to do, buuuuuuuuuut if theres an NDA leak we might have problems."

>>27744085
it is a shame but if she stayed, she would be the first suspect whenever a leak happened

>>27744085
>"Look we don't want no trouble here"
That's how mafia works

>>27744085
It's hilarious because this is exactly how it might've happened.

>>27744085
So she got told what any reasonable company that requires an NDA would tell their employee, have you ever worked anywhere that uses one?

I think the worst part of this is that the only reason i can see Kson being sad is because she blames herself for the schizos attacking Kanata.
What a horrible situation, not being able to pursue your dreams without your best friend being attacked for it.

>>27744479
i never worked for the mafia sorry

>>27744085
I don't know how it works in your idealistic world but in real life it's a plausible situation. Kanata endangers not only herself but other members too.

>>27744479
that's literally a threat anon. good companies don't threaten their employees.

>>27744597
true, corpo slave should not be allowed to have friends outside the company and should only date managers of the company, god bless hololive

This just makes me more glad she left Hololive, i can't imagine the kind of toxic meetings she must have had throughout the years with these control freaks.

So japs leak her membership and edited it? I'm missing out something...

>>27745072
It's damage control for something easily taken out of context.

>>27744722
If you think they'll stop being friends because of this you never believed in them being friends in the first place.

is vshojo a corpo?

>>27743895
kanata initiated the meeting, EOP

>>27745326
No, Vshojo is a family of indies.

>>27745326
Yes but without management

>>27745242
i dont think they'll stop, i think holo want them to stop because muh leaks

>>27744694
To hold an employee to their contract is not a threat you absolute nonce

otsumura

>>27745420
I don't think they care as long as it doesn't threaten them.

>>27745663
>To hold an employee to their contract is not a threat you absolute nonce
Anon, whatever being is depicted in that post above is an example of a threat. Whatever kind of mental gymnastics you try to pull here, it's still a threat.

>>27745712
If your employer reminds you that you leaking information breaches your NDA, which as per your contract is a requirement of employment that is not a threat that is a reminder of a legally binding contract you signed, how is that mental gymnastics? If I mentioned my friend was making a website in the same sector as my workplace and my boss reminded me I couldn't talk about how we solved the problems that wouldn't be a threat, it'd be the same thing