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follow yoroshiku

>> No.27734063

>>27733884
>if you consider kson viewers and kanata viewers as opposing "sides"
I never said nor meant that. I'm a fan of both of these two individuals.
>you probably don't have a good motive for being in this thread
The only people who don't have good motives in this thread are memebrship post leakers. Fuck off.

>> No.27734139

>>27734021
just use 天音かなたち or something instead of deleting it

>> No.27734157

>>27733925
>and you are here shitting on Heimin instead of being in that thread shitting on that faggot because?
Because it's literally posted in a heimin thread. Stop it with your retarded mental gymnastics please.

>> No.27734234

I love cross-thread arguments, so much fun!

>> No.27734271

if you didn't want people talking about the membership shit, maybe you should have fucked off with your vagueposting bullshit you faggot
now get the fuck out, you've got a whole board for this and no one wants to hear your shit

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27734363

man I wish I wasn't a poorfag so I could see all the doomposting

>> No.27734441

I mean how are you people not taking kson side on this shit. What their doing to kson is what their going to do to the rest of the hololive when they graduates. Sideing with kson now helps your oshi out in the future. Plus you really think hololive is going to take care of kanata once hearing gone no.

>> No.27734492

Nice English faggot

>> No.27734502

>27734441
Post proof or kill yourself

>> No.27734533 [DELETED] 

自殺配信いつ?

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>>27734021
should've gone full kana if you wanted to hide the thread during this time op

>> No.27734554

Literally this entire thread is either catalog dramafags shitstirring or people complaining about catalog dramafags shitstirring. And yes I recognize the irony
That anon last thread was right, this thread may as well not exist right now

>> No.27734569

>>27734540
Eh I fucked up and forgot to delete it

>> No.27734611

>>27734554
Yep, gonna stay away from this shithole, no reason to be here when Kanata is not streaming anyway

>> No.27734672
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27734672

I only love Kanata
I don't give a shit about anyone else
post more of my tenshi wife

>> No.27734682

it's all out schizo war lmao

>> No.27734687

>>27734441
Kson's vshojo stream is a sellout and shill stream, why would i believe her?

Also i worked with thegunrun once before, guy is incompetent at best. Good luck to kson but vshojo is barely a real corporation kek.

>> No.27734714

>>27734271
>still defending memberpost leaking
At this point, I'm inclined to believe you're an actual shitposter and not really a heimin.

>> No.27734746

>>27734441
What "side" is there to take? Since when there are "sides" you dramafag larper?

>> No.27734759

>>27734687
>Also i worked with thegunrun once before
yeah, sure, and my uncle works at nintendo

>> No.27734812

>>27734554
Maybe if Kanata wasn't such a filthy liar, none of these would've happened. Have you ever thought about that, huh?

>> No.27734834

>>27734759
Ask your uncle bayo 3 when

>> No.27734892

I just hope this break somehow motivated kanata to do more utawakus..

>> No.27734905
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27734905

I don't know how could anyone believe it was Kanata's decision when she just moved in a couple of months ago and i know for a fact both of them ask each other for advice regarding their careers.
So Kanata knew and didn't expect anything to come out of it, but then Cover called her for an urgent meeting and now she has to lie to protect Cover while moving out as fast as she can.

This is so sad.

>> No.27734929

I shouldn't have to say this since I assume most residents know better, but since the thread is gonna be unusable for a while, at least try not to fall for falseflagging bullshit trying to scale up the drama to more than it is.

>> No.27734988

>>27734905
It was Kanata's decision. fuck off. She was not forced to do this. She just wanted to get away from that whore kson

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>>27734988
>She was not forced to do this
yep, heimins have gone full retard.

>> No.27735103

>>27734714
I'm someone that wants dramafaggots to fuck off

>> No.27735206

>>27735040
feel free to leave anytime, because you're not getting anything else and you're not changing anyone's mind

>> No.27735225

>>27735103
>I'm someone that wants dramafaggots to fuck off
>but wants membership posts to leak so more drama would be generated
Yep, you sure what dramafags to fuck off, huh? You're literally just contradicting yourself, you retarded shitposter. Don't ever reply to me again.

>> No.27735268

>>27735225
>wants membership posts to leak
It has already been leaked

>> No.27735278

>>27735225
I don't want membership posting
I want faggots vaguely referring to it even less

>> No.27735317

lmao as if the emergency call wasn't obvious enough. keep living in your fantasies, dumbass.

>> No.27735372

lol, everybody is just desperate to get a bite

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27735409

Hey, heimins. You're probably gonna be eating shit for some days. Just wanted to say hang in there and try to not respond to schizos.
I hope for the best for Kanatan and you guys.

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>not believing Kanata
an hero please

>> No.27735426

>>27734905
>So Kanata knew
Kanata wouldn't stand for kson's betrayal if she knew about it beforehand.

>> No.27735456

I love how these retards are still trying to convince heimin to not trust their oshi

>> No.27735511

>>27735456
It's quite obvious all those disappointed fans are false-flaggers. You don't even need a working brain to see it.

>> No.27735518

I love kanatan with all my heart.

>> No.27735545

>>27735456
Don't trust Kanata, buy Kson's membership instead.

>> No.27735587

I believe in Kanata. I also believe in Ayame everytime she comes up with an excuse on why she's not streaming.

>> No.27735594

>>27735545
So: "don't trust your oshi, trust sell out's paywalled content instead"?

>> No.27735618
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27735618

>>27735545
>>27735594
No need.

>> No.27735646

>>27735587
kek good one

>> No.27735657
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27735657

Kanata love!
Dramamonger hate!

>> No.27735687

>>27735409
All this shit is basically just leechposting's distant retarded cousin

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nice one, one of you retards leaked out

>> No.27735774

>>27735767
>2 months badge
disgusting newfag

>> No.27735881

Kanata is an adult, she can make her own decision whether it be cover forcing her or not. She side with cover and this means she sees this as the best path for her. I mean she can just join vshojo with her gf if vshojo is the best thing ever.

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27736062

this forced outrage is tiring, post some cute kanatas or gtfo

>> No.27736080

>whether it be cover forcing her or not
lol

>> No.27736085 [DELETED] 

いつも応援してくれるみんなへ。

みんなのおかげで2年目を迎えることができました。
本当にいつもありがとう。

僕は自分のことになるととても評価が低くて、
自分を褒めてあげることが少ないタイプです。
不器用だし、人前に立つことも得意じゃないし、
持病があって体も弱いし、喋るのも苦手で、
本当に、ホロライブでの活動は戸惑うことばかりでした。

向いてないなって思ったこともあったし、
今でも、自信がなくなると、向いてないかもって思うことがあります。

でも、そんなとき、みんなの言葉が目に入ります。

「この人はどうして僕のことを好きって言ってくれるの?」
「他に、もっと素敵な子がいるのに、どうして僕なんだろう?」
「こんなに大事にしてもらっていいのかな」

そんな風に思いながら、でも、みんなが想いを言葉にしてくれるのを見ると、
諦めようとか、やめちゃおうとか、そういう気持ちが、すーってなくなっていきます。

この人たちのためにがんばりたい。
もっともっと、自分でも認められる自分になれるように、
今より良くなるために、努力したい。
心からそう思えます。

昨日も、いろいろあって、ライブ前にすごく不安になっていて。
僕の歌って、いらないんじゃないか。って、一瞬思っていたけれど、
ライブの待機所を見たら、応援のコメントがいっぱいあった。
高評価してくれてた。スパチャを投げてメッセージをくれた。
すごくすごく元気が出た!
みんなのおかげで今日もステージに立てました。


Vtuberとして、アイドルとして、天音かなたとして、
僕はまだまだ半人前です。
もっとこうすればよかった。こっちのほうがよかった。
たぶん、今日のライブでだって、そんなところはいっぱいあるけれど、
それでも、未完成な僕のことを応援してくれるみんなのために。
今、好きだよって言ってくれるみんなの気持ちを大事にするために。
自分を否定しすぎないで、みんなの方を見て、活動したい。
上手くできないかもしれない。
でも、やらないよりはやってみて考えよう。

僕はみんなに元気や、希望や、夢や、愛をあげるから、
まだまだ、隣で見守って支えてほしいです。

明日からもがんばろう。今よりもっと上を目指して努力する!
今応援してくれているみんなといつか、こんなところまで来れたよ!って笑えるように!!

ほんとうにありがとう。大好きだよ。
ポエミーかなたそでした。

>> No.27736167

>>27735881
More likely because she's "safe" apart from the friend drama, she would also have to rebuild her fanbase from the ground up, or least that would be her logic

Kson is just expanding, meanwhile mike is taking advantage of both overseas fans and their pity and long time fans who followed her even to her roommate (even though her numbers are low but compared to regular twitch folk its a decent number)

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27736169

whenever I think about my oshi I want to jack off

>> No.27736221
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27736221

わーーーいかわいい

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>>27736169
same

>> No.27736268 [DELETED] 

みんな!今日も本当にありがとう!!

そして今日は寝坊二回もしてしまってごめんなさい。
あんまりいっぱい謝るのは…と思っていたけど、ちゃんと話そうと思って投稿しました。

今回は連日の寝不足が原因だったり、
ちょっと無理しちゃって体調があまり良くなかったのが原因です。

去年僕が入院していたときにみんなが待っていてくれて、
帰ったときもあたたかく迎えてくれて、そのときは、
「ホロライブのみんながたくさん配信を続けてくれているから帰る場所があるんだ」
って感じました。

そこから、ホロライブに恩返しをすることの一つじゃないけど、
「配信を毎日やりたい!」という思いがあって、(配信が楽しくてやりたいのももちろんそう!!)
最近は裏作業でやることが多くてちょっと無理しちゃったかもしれない。。
それで寝坊したり、体を悪くしたら本末転倒だし、
向こう見ずに突っ走らないでもっと自分のことも大事にしないと!って思いました。

不快な思いをした人もごめんなさい。心配させちゃった人もごめんね。
また明日からも頑張っていくので、一緒にいてください。

>> No.27736278

>>27736080
no one is forcing anything
that's literally all your headcanon

>> No.27736310

>no one is forcing anything
kek

>> No.27736380 [DELETED] 
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27736380

みんなーー!!おじいちゃんと会ってきたよ
日記みたいなものだよ!


おじいちゃんもう90歳をこえていて、なかなか会うことができなくて、
実は前に病気が見つかって、最近入院・手術を終えたところでした。
病気のことで東京にきていて、さゆり(ママ)がずっと一緒にいたんだけど、
僕に「せっかくだからおじいちゃんと会えない?」って連絡がきてたの!

でも、忙しいし、配信を毎日やりたいから、
一度断って…。

そしたら今日おじいちゃんから

「かなたちゃんあえるとおもっていたからざんねんですでもありがとうおからだおだいじにおげんきでいつまでもいつまでもおげんきで」

ってLINEがきていて、なんだか急に、もしかしたらこれが最後かもしれない…って思って、
急いで会いに行ってきました。

僕は本当にVtuber、ホロライブという文化、場所が大好きなんだ!だから、
配信おやすみしてみんなに忘れられちゃうのが怖かったり、
みんなとの時間も有限じゃないから大事にしたいって思ってて、
やりたいこともやらなきゃいけないこともいっぱいあって、
たった数時間でも家族との時間を取るのはすごく不安だったけど…。

みんなが優しくいってらっしゃいって言ってくれて、おじいちゃんとも会えて話せて、
本当に良かった!
みんなありがとう。。というのを伝えたかった!!

長くなってごめんね。明日は会おうね!!

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>>27736085
>>27736268
>>27736380
Wow, some old as fuck members post that mean nothing for people not already invested in her as an oshi. You really pissed me off now.

>> No.27736441

Just so you know a Watamate is copypasting posts from here and the kson thread on /jp/ so expect even more schizposting

>> No.27736449

Mind broke a faggot so hard he got a Kanata membership just to post old posts www

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27736475

みんな今日も心配させちゃってごめんね。。
いまふんばりどき?だ!
心配かけないように明日からまたがんばる!!

>> No.27736520

>>27736278
"Force" is a strong word
But I cannot even imagine a situation where she made this decision all by herself without someone from corporate even suggesting it to her

>> No.27736538

As much as I want to just take her word for it that it's her decision, it's a bit difficult to believe that she would just decide to move out of the blue when she and her friend have been so close.
Doubly so when you take the timing of everything into consideration.

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今日は配信の後ピザ食べたーー!!(でぶたそ)
スーパーで売ってる冷凍ピザだったけど
おいしかった~~~(*'▽')++

>> No.27736590

>>27736520
>from corporate even suggesting it to her
not suggest, I think the right word is pressure.

>> No.27736651

>>27735767
https://wesave.chat/user/UCPhCrhChDOd0QU3Tu7hoHcw
>ENfag
big surprise there, prob got two gifted memberships.

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27736692

いまはとっても寂しい

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You doomposting faggots do realize she's probably just playing along with managements paranoia so she can potentially collab with her friend again right.

It's also good that shes humoring them, cause now she won't be a potential graduation risk if someone else cracks and leaks shit.

>> No.27736715

>>27736590
Right.
I highly doubt they did anything illegal but they sent a very strong message to everyone that associating with undesirables would not be tolerated and everyone had to get with the program

>> No.27736718

>>27736520
I can imagine her asking what's the best course of action would be. Kanata knows when she needs to do the right thing.

>> No.27736746

>a sellout
>a bootlicker
Do I have a "choice" here like Kanata?

>> No.27736761

>>27736651
he had just 1 (one) livechat during the undertale stream a year ago, and people still think member gifting is a good idea

>> No.27736774

>>27736697
do you seriously believe Hololive with collab with Vtrash?
not happening

>> No.27736790

>>27736746
Suicide is your only option.

>> No.27736842

>>27736774
Have you been asleep for the last year?

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メンバーのみんなにスマホサイズの壁紙?お写真あげゆその2

>> No.27736860

>>27736697
>so she can potentially collab with her friend again right.
You're too optimistic about this. You'd be mistaken for a shitposter if you keep doing that.

>> No.27736870

Why did this guy just start leaking old member posts?

>> No.27736885

>>27736697
>It's also good that shes humoring them, cause now she won't be a potential graduation risk if someone else cracks and leaks shit.
The whole thing is just a formality to make her safe. She can literally just move to another apartment in the same building and this would count as her "moving out". It's not really that big of a sacrifice to be safe from Cover's accusations.

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>>27736842
A shitposter that doesn't watch streams? nah that couldn't be

>> No.27736903

>>27736774
>if I close my eyes hard enough, then the Haachama x Ironmouse collab never happened!!
lmao

>> No.27736933

>>27736870
Dumbass ksharts think that "we" leaked kson's member post. That's their idea of revenge apparently.

>> No.27736937

>>27736903
>Hachaama
Literally no one cares about her anymore. Try someone relevant

>> No.27736948 [DELETED] 

みんな~~メンバー限定配信できなくてごめんね(;;)
久々にちょっと体調崩してしまった。。
けど、元気になったらいっぱい配信するから

お誕生日前なのと、企画準備中なのと、
家族の体調が悪いのも重なっちゃって
ばったばただったから、しっかり休むのだ!
もう少し元気になったらモンハンやりたーーい!

みんなは体調崩してないかな?しんどいときはゆっくり休むのだよ(*'▽')

>> No.27736956

>>27736933
>>>/jp/40451522
You really are trying to start a fanbase war uh, how many more memberposts will you leak?

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>>27736937
keep moving that goalpost, anon.

>> No.27736971

>>27736903
>EN

>> No.27736970

>>27735618
Sounds like she's just seething that Kanata chose Hololive, her music career and the other Holos over her and going menhera.

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>>27736948
忘れたわw

>> No.27737033

I can't believe some guy got mad enough about this to pay 5 dollars to copy/paste spam banal old member posts on two different boards

>> No.27737073

>>27736970
Her "better vtubing world" conquest has already cost her too much. She can't back out of it now. It's a bit sad to see.

>> No.27737090

>>27737033
it's funny as fuck, let's see how long he can keep doing this

>> No.27737097

>>27737033
>got mad
This dude has been angry for a whole year, searching a couple of phrases on warosu will tell you that, he comes here, makes a retarded post and then links it on the kson thread, when nobody replies he goes to /jp/ and does the same.

>> No.27737157

>>27736870
because he wanted to just sit around vagueposting about "something" in a kson member post that proved everything is a lie, and then someone just went and posted it

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この写真なつかしいw
サムネでは見えない脚に注目!!!!

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メン限配信で生み出した全ロスハムスタ

>> No.27737284

https://litter.catbox.moe/0ztsqw.webm
here bro, I'll help you spread more membership posts.

>> No.27737302

abayo

>> No.27737346

>>27737033
I hope he regrets it when he finds out there isn't a single post worth leaking.

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>> No.27737372

>>27737346
it really do be like that sometimes...

>> No.27737378

I hope you tenshi fans are gonna be ok, I just came to try to learn something and what I did learn is shit posting is at an all time high here too

From a kson/mike fan, I'll resume lurking since I'm getting dumber looking between all the threads

>> No.27737384

>>27737284
DELETE THIS

>> No.27737416

>>27737284
kek, good time

>> No.27737429

>>27737378
honestly the schizo festival bothers me more than the actual moving out, but that'll pass so it's not big deal

>> No.27737453

>>27737033
I didn't pay for it, i just found it because i was searching if the copypasted comment about it was actually real or just people creating drama.

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>>27737378
It's gonna die down eventually, it's just par for the course here. Honestly the worst thing about this is lack of streams.

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>>27737378
It's gonna be like this for a while, he's posting on cooldown on 3 different threads, his keyboard is probably about to catch fire.

>> No.27737572

The funny thing is, I really doubt Kanata or kson really think it's that big of a deal for them personally and are more worried about fan reaction than them being forced apart or some other dramatic way to put it.

>> No.27737607

You know, insisting it's one person derailing and attracting replies just encourages more shitposters to play the part with even less effort

>> No.27737632

>leaves the kanacoco house to prevent any further drama from spreading because of kson joining vshojo
>instead creates another new wave of drama and shitposts that actually targets her and Cover for being a black company
BRAVO KANATA
BRAVISSIMO

>> No.27737646

>>27737572
>forced apart
still peddling this shit rrat anti?

>> No.27737650

>>27737607
Thread is going to be a pile of flaming shit either way, I'm not really concerned with trying to preserve its quality right now.

>> No.27737740

>>27737646
Reading comprehension anon, and I'm literally saying that's a dramatic way to put it just a few words ahead.

>> No.27737743

>>27737346
Kanata’s members content isn’t regrettable.

>> No.27737789

>>27737740
you should try putting it in quotes to help with clarity

>> No.27737807

>>27737632
literally the only people badmouthing kanatan are EOP ksharts. japanese are all on kanata's side

>> No.27737838

>>27737743
it is if the only reason you paid for it is to hope you find something that would hurt her if leaked

>> No.27737847

>>27737632
Better to rip that bandaid off now, it's not like the "Cover are cartoon supervillains" peoples opinion will ever change anyway
She made the choice that's safest for the career she wants, doing the idol thing within hololive

>> No.27737861

>>27737807
Flaseflagging doesn't really work if you use the same terms everywhere you go

>> No.27737875

>>27737807
This, the jpside takes it surprisingly well

>> No.27737908

Hey guys, it's Monday!

I've been coughing since I got the coronas.
I'm sorry I haven't been able to deliver for a month.
Sometimes I think you guys have forgotten about me.
But when I check my egos and my messages, you'll find your usual names.
I see kind words like, "I'll miss you, but I'll be waiting for you, so please get well.
I'm sure there are more feelings than that in my heart.
But I still love everyone who says kind words to me.

I'm really sad because I want to get back to the live streaming as soon as possible.
But for now, I'm working hard for the live concert.
I'll try my best for the live concert, and I'll make adjustments so that I can get back to the live streaming a little after the concert!
A year ago, I would have been so insecure that I wouldn't have been able to trust you guys.
I thought that if I took a break, no one would be there, so I would have forced my way back to work.
I would have hidden my obvious coughing and muted a lot, not caring that everyone was worried.
I was probably making my body and throat worse and worse.
I really, really, really miss you, and I can't wait to see you all on the feed, but I'm going to hold off for now.
I'm going to make a thumbnail of my return, buy a game, mix, take my medicine, and try to get well as soon as possible!
But, but, but.... It's frustrating: !!!!!!!!! I wish my cough would stop tomorrow!!!!!
Cough! Hurry up and get rid of it .

T

>> No.27737954

Sorry for worrying you guys...!
The delivery itself was loose, but we had a lot of preparation for the Osechi party and this Karuizawa
I had a lot of things to do, from the 2nd anniversary, to the Marika convention, to family matters, and so on.
I'm sorry for the mess. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry for making you think that I don't want you to be anti-social.
I usually don't get too upset when people say things like that.
I don't usually get too upset about what people say about me.
I think I am too self-confident.

However, in the past six months, I have had a few incidents of collaboration with people who said, "Don't need me!
I don't need me! I have thought to myself, "I don't need it!
I've actually been told that I'm not needed, and the waiting room has become a mess.
I am not sure if I have confidence in the significance of my presence in the collaboration.
But collaboration is a very important part of being at Hololive, and it's difficult.

This time, I was doing all the preparations and procedures, and I was the organizer.
And if they don't want me, then there's nothing I can do.
I was too busy in general, and it was a big mistake to think negatively about it.
I'm going to take some time

>> No.27737971

You guys make it like she can't just meet up and visit each other together lol.

>> No.27738002

>>27737908
>I've been coughing since I got the coronas.
WTF she's an alcoholic?????

>> No.27738030

>machine translated the posts so he can keep spamming

>> No.27738104

>>27737875
Well except for the schizo shippers which is a big win, the less of them hanging around the better.

>> No.27738115

>>27735618
This is kind of embarrassing, to be honest.

>> No.27738156

>>27738002
Just recently, yes.
https://youtu.be/3wcFOFcud1w

>> No.27738288

>>27736970
Dont post a stupid rrat, EOP nigger. This is more like a criticism of Cover.

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Awful, awful thread.
See you guys in a while when some vtuber does an oopsie and the board focuses on that.

>> No.27738339

For the tourists chama:

>>27733072

>> No.27738514

>>27737971
Oh I remember people saying that about Hoshi no Kanata. Now look at where we are.

>> No.27738596

I wake up and see Kanata has found another excuse not to stream

Who wants to bet she’ll move out but the internet company she hires will have a delay that will keep her from streaming for another week?
Flare moved out and barely stopped streaming, the thing is she really loves her fans, that’s the difference.

>> No.27738644

>>27738596
I commend you for at least trying a new angle instead of posting "cover bad" for the millionth time shitposter-kun

>> No.27738655

>>27738596
Do you really wake up every two hours just to post here? Get your sleep disorder fixed.

>> No.27738685

So how long until this thread becomes usable again?

>> No.27738692

>>27738644
>>27738655
>ugh this thread is full of bait
>reply to all of it

>> No.27738693

>>27738300

Ask Nijikeks to do some "Educate Yourself" moment.

They've been silent for a while now,

I actually miss them

Or maybe they're just eating popcorn while browsing /vt/

>> No.27738761

>>27738685
Whenever Mori decides to make an ass of herself again

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>> No.27739253

I feel sorry for you because of all shizoposting bros.

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I just want them to be happy. I don't want more drama.

>> No.27739271

>>27737743
This >>27737209 creature is kind of a regrettable being.

>> No.27739338

>>27739255
the only one vagueposting is C
Kanata has been pretty clear

>> No.27739403

>>27739255
I just want this to be over with, they already decided to split, there is no reason to just keep shitting on any of them unless you are baiting of course

>> No.27739426

Nousagi here. I'm sorry you heimin have to go through this shit. Hopefully things will calm down soon enough.

>> No.27739438

>>27739253
I saw it coming from a mile away so it's not really that bad. I already knew this was likely to happen when kson joined vshit and I already knew it would cause a spur of schizoposting. The first news about kson was much harder to take.

>> No.27739631

>>27739338
>Kanata has been pretty clear
Her explanations are super vague though, did you even watch the stream?

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I'm with you Heimins.
Sad to see your thread getting shit up, but it seems both schizos and shills are working overtime today. Hope you can tough it out.
But at least it is now clear to me, your oshi comes out on top when it comes to professionalism. I admire that quality you rarely found in women.

>> No.27739690

Holy shit I'm so happy she is moving out. I didn't think she could actually put herself first and focus on her future instead of a certain person who doesn't deserve her. Very proud of Kanatan today.

>> No.27739745

>>27739642
Thank you kenzoku

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s4WS4cbQIw

>> No.27739827

>>27739631
I meant more clear than that tweet that C just made which I still can't get around what she means

>> No.27739841

>>27739631
I'm surprised there are so many people dumb enough not to understand what risk management means. Do you need her to spell it out for you?

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>>27739255
Kson was right in one thing: they are all held hostage. By secrecy and inability to communicate. People have already decided what they're going to believe before Kanata even streamed.
>if she confirms what I think - I was right all along
>if she denies it, she's obviously lying and I was right all along
And so there would've been drama no matter what she said. It's nobody's fault.

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>>27739642
Love your oshi too

>> No.27739902

>>27739827
I understood what kson what saying in that post.

>>27739841
>Do you need her to spell it out for you?
Unironically, Yes, or fuck off with her vague excuses

>> No.27739970

>>27739852
>so there would've been drama no matter what she said. It's nobody's fault.
How about just stop announcing this private shit instead of telling the whole world about it.

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>>27739642
Thanks, I think the shitposting won't last too long and we'll get through it safely. Meanwhile I'll be looking forward to more KanaTowa and possible ORIO releases.

>> No.27740056

>>27739841
She wasn't even the one who brought it up
Chat did and she went "r-right, that's it"

>> No.27740063

>>27739970
not an option, sorry

>> No.27740087

>>27740063
Keeping quiet is ALWAYS an option. You should know this because you watch hololive.

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Remember when Holohouse as a concept was considered a huge risk even when it was the same company people?

>> No.27740148

>>27740087
>Keep quiet and let narratives brew like a good hostage
It changes nothing. It is objectively better to make a statement than let people speculate wildly.

>> No.27740178

>>27739642
>Rushia blurts out shit instead of staying quiet
>people go apeshit
>rightfully called an impatient, stupid menhera
>Kanata blurts out shit instead of staying quiet
>people go apeshit
>so professional

>> No.27740199

reminder to listen to Drain

>> No.27740202

>>27740148
>It changes nothing
It changes everything in this situation. Shutting up would've been better because no retard gets free clout from their own formed narrative.

>> No.27740229

>>27740199
That genre just ain't for me

>> No.27740230

>>27739852
no one is being "held hostage"
fuck of shitposter

>> No.27740232

>>27740148
>than let people speculate wildly
About what? Nobody would know Kanata moved.

>> No.27740327

>>27740199
I am, the song always makes me want to rave

>> No.27740393

>>27740232
>make it clear she's moving now and there won't be streams for a while
or
>learn about her moving eventually from kson while shittalking Kanata for not streaming, lying and coming up with excuses for not streaming
The choice here is pretty obvious. Oh wait, you have already chosen both of these so it's not even a choice.

>> No.27740483

Like, that one guy already start shitting on her when she didn't stream for 3 days

>> No.27740521

>>27740202
Why should she care about retards getting free clout on anonymous boards?

>> No.27740540

>>27740393
>so it's not even a choice
just like cover making her move lol

>> No.27740575

>>27740178
>one leaks confidential info to drama streamers
>the other explains to her fans why she won't be able to stream for a bit
>these are somehow the same thing

>> No.27740603

ive come to the realisation that these kinds of tee tee stories arent healthy after all as long as the scene is controlled by a corpo. i hate yagoo and covers management but its better not to take any tee tee shit vtubers push seriously as well. its easily broken even if it looks genuine and strong.

>> No.27740678

>>27740199
That song kinda reminds me of Kid A/Amnesiac-era Radiohead.

>> No.27740680

>>27740603
are you seriously implying that yagoo somehow is at fault here?
delusional
there is probably no more praised company CEO by the girls themselves in existence

>> No.27740707

>>27740393
Why would Kson bring up the move?

>> No.27740750

>>27740603
Protip, you can stay friends even when you don't live together.

>> No.27740770

>>27740003
Yup, there's going to be a lot more soon. It's why Kanata has been recording so much lately.

>> No.27740785

>>27740707
I don't know, why is she vagueposting about it now?
because she's upset that her pet has a will of her own

>> No.27740874

>>27740680
yagoo is a hypocritical nigger or just weak sheep easily swayed by covers execs. in fact he made a real hypocritical and defensive move during the mel incident.

>> No.27740884

>>27740707
All it takes is one "When PJK came visiting" or a similar implications for people to ask about it. I doubt she'd have any reasons to hide it.

>> No.27740903

Even if it was true that Cover pushed for her to move out, should I be mad about it?
Yeah no shit they don't want future vshojo adjacent garbage coming over to offcollab to be a doxx risk for Kanata

>> No.27740930
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>Moving out was all Kanata's idea

Why did Cover call her into an emergency meeting then?

>> No.27740947

https://twitter.com/mak1hara/status/1545433834015293440
thoughts?

>> No.27740999

Why come into this thread and try to argue, to people who enjoy watching Kanata's career in hololive, that Kanata emphatically choosing her career in hololive over all else is somehow a bad thing
Literally only schizo shippers and people who want her to exist as an accessory for someone else are mad about this

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>>27740947

>> No.27741007

>>27740903
It's definitely not something worth losing your job over, that's for sure. They're good friends and it's a formality to keep Kanata's name clear if something goes wrong.
>>27740930
Same reason they called Pekora on a meeting that day.

>> No.27741058

>>27740903
because you'd be a bootlicker if you think going along with corporate is a sound decision, and that's cringe, not based

>> No.27741068

>>27741007
losing her job for what exaclty? because at the end of the day, it's still a narrative that she might lose her job if she keeps living with her.

>> No.27741074

>>27740930
you realise they could just informed her that circumstances are dangerous and she made the final decision herself right?
she isn't a child

>> No.27741122

>>27741058
No, it's the sensible solution. Imagine being okay with Kanata being stuck in one place with an increasingly mentally ill turbowhore who will have random men over for offcollabs.

>> No.27741124

>>27740947
I think people who can't handle basic anatomy shouldn't draw porn.

>> No.27741161

>>27741058
>safety le bad

>> No.27741172

>>27741007
What reason is that?

>> No.27741177

>>27741058
>just throw away your entire career and dream job because otherwise I'll call you mean names on the internet

>> No.27741200

>>27741122
>turbowh-
got it, so you're one of those schizos from /hlg/

>> No.27741228

>>27741122
>>27741161
>>27741177
Anon that's clearly sarcasm

>> No.27741242

>>27740999
because they think we're as mentally ill as they are and will have our opinions changed by baseless bullshit

>> No.27741251

>>27741200
Don't you have some chaturbate collabs with Nuxtaku and Connor to watch?

>> No.27741279

>>27741177
>>27741161
I was being ironic, I thought I made my post dumb enough to convey it, but my bad I guess.

>> No.27741289 [DELETED] 

>>27741068
While it's true we don't know what exactly was discussed, Rushia's incident is still fresh. One accusation is enough for someone to get lynched by a mod and then kicked out of Hololive. Don't forget that if Kanata is the weakest link, connected to someone in another corporation, Hololive fans will also turn on her if something like a leak happens. It doesn't only protect her from Cover's actions but from antis too if, as Kanata said, something bad happens in the future.

>> No.27741323

>>27741279
I have seen significantly more retarded posts made 100% genuinely

>> No.27741328

>>27741279
You know full well this board is so retarded that sarcasm is impossible to perceive
No matter how ridiculous you make a statement there's someone posting here who would say it sincerely

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>>27741172
Someone found out they've been secretly dating for more than two months now.

>> No.27741373

>>27741289
>Rushia's incident is still fresh
Rushia is out of the picture because there's literally no confrimation that it is her that's joining Vshojo.

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>> No.27741418

>>27741373
I assume he meant information leak being a cause for contract termination is still fresh in everybody's minds.

>> No.27741428

>>27741251
nice try schizo but you're in the wrong fucking thread.

>> No.27741463

Hang in there Heimins, the tribalfags will get tired and leave soon.

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Hopefully we get a post moving uta!

>> No.27741486

>>27741373
I mean her termination without a trace due to unspecified information leak.

>> No.27741489

>>27741418
What information leak exaclty? did Rushia really leak alll their addresses? Because there's no way that happened, right?

>> No.27741497

>>27741428
What's wrong, upset that your girl got called out on the kind of cancerous collabs she's done?
No one watching Kanata would want that for her. You're just a kson fan treating Kanata like an accessory like so many others. Leave.

>> No.27741506

>>27741384
built for mating

>> No.27741545

Stay strong heimin. Hopefully she can find a nice place as soon as possible.
t.hoshiyomi

>> No.27741561

>>27741497
>treating Kanata like an accessory
Is that not what she was until Coco left?

>> No.27741565

>>27741489
If you want to discuss Rushia's case this is not the thread. The fact is she was formally terminated for information leaking and as well intentioned as kanata and kson might be, them living together is an information security hazard.

>> No.27741573

>>27741489
She could easily leak the addresses of the holos who she had offcollabs with. A lot of the holos whose homes she stayed at moved recently. Glad Pekora never lets ANYONE go to her house.

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Riding in the sky in Kanata's bowl!

>> No.27741614

i keep clicking back here out of habit only to see tourist dramaniggers. hopefully the kson side dont think these retards are actual heimin

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27741668

Why is Upa so cute, and how can I be as cute as Upa and take his place?

>> No.27741669

>>27741614
I'm fairly certain these people just post in both threads talking about how the other one is against them.

>> No.27741676

>>27741565
I think kson being in vshojo and no doubt wanting to have offcollabs at her place in the future is the risk here, not Rushia leaking their addresses - that didn't happen

>> No.27741687

>>27741573
>Glad Pekora never lets ANYONE go to her house.
I bet you really believe her mom didn't know she was a vtuber.

>> No.27741767

>>27741687
Why not? My mom doesn't know I'm a vtuber either.

>> No.27741777

>>27741676
but the problem is it's not even confirmed that Rushia is joining, so that argument wouldn't hold up and actually makes no sense.

>> No.27741803

>>27741687
Not even Miko ever went to Pekora's house.

>> No.27741853

>>27741777
The evidence is so overwhelming that you're arguing for a 0.01% chance at this point

>> No.27741862

>>27741676
>>27741565
>If you want to discuss Rushia's case this is not the thread. The fact is she was formally terminated for information leaking and as well intentioned as kanata and kson might be, them living together is an information security hazard.

>> No.27741881

>>27741614
Don't worry, no one is stupid enough to think mud eating antis calling her friend a turbowhore are real fans. Or if they are, fuck 'em.

>> No.27741906

>>27741853
No, it doesn't matter how true it is. It's just not a valid argument when there's literally no confirmation that she has joined her.

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There it is, the red text

>> No.27741977

>>27741676
The problem isn't exactly Rushia leaking something and her joining vshojo is irrelevant to this. The problem is that a leak of unspecified kind gets you erased from Hololive's history forever. For Kanata who loves Hololive and doesn't have much else going for her it's a death sentence.

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>>27741595
Kanata riding my dick!

>> No.27742076

>>27741881
Go back to Vwhorejo thread and defend her there

>> No.27742126

>>27741906
If you want to act naive then by all means do so

>> No.27742175

>>27741906
It's just as valid as anything thats said in this shit hole of a website.

>> No.27742256

>>27742126
I'm not acting naive, I'm actually telling you an answer that made the most sense.

>>27742175
>It's just as valid as anythin-
No.

>> No.27742304

When is the other girl actually going to debut?

>> No.27742331

>>27742256
It doesn't make sense to the deny that Rushia is joining vshojo when the evidence is as overwhelming as it is. Everyone knows it.
This is you being unreasonable because you insist on the final 0.01% being delivered too before you go "ok yeah".

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There's no fucking "safety issue" or threat to her career besides "contact with someone who isn't part of Hololive". The only solution to that would be completely cutting them off from all outside contact.

We just want Kanata to be happy and be able to keep the most important relationship in her life.

>> No.27742412

>>27742304
mikeneko is 17.7

>> No.27742441

>>27742401
>There's no fucking "safety issue" or threat to her career besides "contact with someone who isn't part of Hololive"
Sure there is. There's an immense threat of her being doxxed when kson has vshojo related people over for work or offcollab reasons.

>> No.27742439

>>27742331
As long as there is no confirmation. It's not a valid argument to use that it's all because of "Rushia"

>> No.27742471

>>27735767
I love all the idiots calling everything black company. Have they not worked a minute in their faggot lives?

>> No.27742497

>>27742439
Continue putting fingers in your ears then while the entire world has accepted it and understands it, your business.

>> No.27742565

anyway we cant subvert the situation anymore.

kanata is gonna be lonely again. poor kanata is fascinating to be honest but i cant believe she can control herself properly now. she should ask marine for help at least. as she herself says from time to time, she doesnt have any real close friends in holo other than marine.

or should try new things to get closer to different kinds of "new" holomens, like luna, subaru etc, from flare or okayu who shes already half assedly had collabs,

>> No.27742608

I can't even tell what the baits are aiming for anymore.

>> No.27742611

>>27742401
>There's no fucking "safety issue" or threat to her career
oh, so you know her situation better than she does?

>> No.27742613

>>27741906
Technically there's no confirmation of a lot of stuff, like who the holomems' roommates are. Nor will there ever be confirmation, it's just something people figure out.

>> No.27742635

>>27742565
You don't even watch her

>> No.27742671

>>27742497
Not even putting fingers in my ears, but you seem to just hate the fact that it's never a valid argument since there literally has been no confirmations whatsoever.

>> No.27742672

>wake up
>read previous thread
I tried to tell you that the redditdragon was a bad influence, just look how her fans immediately shit the general up when things aren't going their way.

>> No.27742699

>>27742441
Kson isn't necessarily going to invite anyone from Vshojo to their place. Especially if Kanata doesn't want her to.

>> No.27742711

>>27742401
>There's no fucking "safety issue" or threat to her career besides "contact with someone who isn't part of Hololive"
Not being part of Hololive and being part of a brand that is in competition with Hololive is different. Holohouse had always been a huge fucking security hazard for everyone involved, they never even denied it in their early Doukyozu streams. Now there's a whole group of people affiliated with another company whose intentions can't be predicted involved with kson - people who are not bound to keep quiet about info they might hear or come across. And if Mike is really joining it's explicitly fucking bad because one blabber about where they live means threat to Kanata and everyone visiting their house for offcollabs.

>> No.27742719

>>27742672
wrong thread to shitpost on, schizo. go back to the catalog.

>> No.27742773

>>27742719
Nope, you won't fool me. Get the hell out of my general, nobody wants you here.

>> No.27742804

>>27742711
Why the fuck are you acting like mikeneko is some kind of savage that doesn't have any self-control? Are you really that brainwashed by the Holobox?

>> No.27742818

>>27742699
when she can't be trusted to do things she promised to do, what makes you think she can be trusted to not do some dumb shit like that?

>> No.27742858

>>27742818
>when she can't be trusted to do things she promised to do,
so you're one of those schizos eh. thanks for confirming

>> No.27742860
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Sorry to see you guys going through this
As someone who's experienced this before, my advice is to just ignore the majority of posts while continuing to support your oshi and wait for them to get bored. But you should still make the generals just so you don't lose control of the OP
Your oshi is a wonderful girl and I wish her the best of luck in the future

>> No.27742888

>>27742858
>holding someone to their word is being a schizo

>> No.27743021

>>27742804
Even nekofami would say she has no self-control.
She is bipolar.

>> No.27743028

>>27742860
The best advice is letting this thread die since there will be no news for a month

>> No.27743034

>>27742860
I appreciate it, hopefully everything goes well over there too.

>> No.27743056

>>27742804
>is some kind of savage that doesn't have any self-control?
Because she's literally proven several times that she doesn't? Even her fans say she doesn't. Keep up.

>> No.27743067

>>27742804
I never said she'd necessarily do it on purpose. I don't think even her fans would deny she's pretty dumb.

>> No.27743104

>>27743021
Nekofami here. No one who is her fan would say she's literally dangerous to even be associated with or that there's any risk of her doxxing anyone.

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Fuck it, I'm going to leak another membership post

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>>27742860
Thanks anon. Might take some time for this to sort itself out but people will eventually move on. Next "big yab" will clear this thread of shitposters as it usually happens.

>> No.27743342

Kanata and Kson have been living together for way too long to believe Kson is a "security risk". If it wasn't an issue before, there's zero reason for it to be an issue now.

>But Kson could do this or that

She's been in the business long enough to know how security works. She's never put Kanata in danger before. This whole issue is being completely fucking made up.

>But she's part of Vshjoo now
Literally changes absolutely nothing. Kson's not suddenly going to change their whole lifestyle just because she joined a different Corp. There's zero evidence that she was planning to invite Mike over or whatever other paranoia you're trying to shill.

>> No.27743346

>>27743238
How fucking dare you

>> No.27743437

>>27743342
The "offcollab" risk is a weird one when all of vshojo lives in america and she has never invited anyone that wasn't a hololive member for an offcollab since she graduated, she even stopped inviting that one non-streamer girl friend she has.

>> No.27743584

>>27743342
Except for the part where shit can happen and then it's too late. Better safe than sorry and all that.

>> No.27743610

>>27743342
It's not about this. If another leak happens Kanata would've been blamed regardless unless they can say for sure who's to blame. Not even by Cover, by others too.
>Literally changes absolutely nothing
Other than being affiliated with a number of people not bound by any code of conduct, sure.

>> No.27743635

>>27743238
This is taboo.

>> No.27743733

>>27743610
>not bound by any code of conduct,
Anon, you do realize that if one of them posts "nigger" on twitter, Vshojo instantly removes them from the team, right? Don't tell me they have no code of conduct, because if anything, they have that SJW woke shit in their company.

>> No.27743735

>>27743437
This thread is full of Cover shills that care more about maintaining face and avoiding "drama" than Kanata's mental well being.

>> No.27743743

>>27742635
Ive watched nearly her every stream. She said that. The second close IRL friend is Okayu according to her but she knows Okayu already has many friends and she would merely be 有象無象の一人 from Okayus viewpoint. Suisei wasnt counted.

She also said "I want to get closer to Subaru", but she acknowledged she is afraid of approaching Subaru, making mistakes, and being hated by her.

>> No.27743776

Oh hey we're almost at bump limit, guess Kanata is just too cute

>> No.27743919

>>27743437
Because as kanata said is about a future risk.
The problem is if in the future the vs girls go to japan and since Vs have 0 input on girls then they could make a fuck up.

>> No.27744003

>>27743776
very cute

>> No.27744004

>>27743437
Cover doesnt trust vshojo girl or management but trust kson herslef. It isnt a hard concept.

>> No.27744079

>>27742804
It's not just her Vshojo knows where Kson lives now and by extension Kanata, and any future vshojojp memberer or other random Kson wants to have over for an offcollab will know too or possibly see stuff they shouldn't. Then separating is the safest choice for everyone

>> No.27744086

>>27743735
And you care more about creating dumb rrats than trusting her. It's her decision, deal with it. We can discuss for an eternity if she was coerced, convinced, forced or advised by Cover to make this decision, but at the end of the day that's her decision. If you think her decision was the wrong one than tell her and we'll see if she gives a fuck about your opinion.

>> No.27744096

>>27743733
Because I obviously meant them saying no-no words and not them leaking shit.

>> No.27744122

>>27743776
my wife is indeed cute

>> No.27744191

>>27743735
Kanata's mental well being depends on her staying in Hololive.

>> No.27744210

>>27744079
And Hololive knows where Kanata lives now and by extension kson, and any future hololivejp member or other random Kanata wants to have over for an off-collab will know too or possibly see the stuff they shouldn't.

But hey, you don't see kson or vshojo wanting them to go their separate ways.

>> No.27744249

>>27743610
>It's not about this. If another leak happens Kanata would've been blamed regardless unless they can say for sure who's to blame. Not even by Cover, by others too.

Leaks happen all the time though. And there are countless other avenues for shit to leak from. Even by anti standards it would be a hell of a stretch to blame Kanata for any future leaks unless Kson is directly implicated.

>> No.27744261

>>27743743
yeah, you sound like a clipwatcher

>> No.27744262

>>27743743
Maybe if we were back 2 years ago then Suisei would be counted...

>> No.27744284

>>27743735
>Kanata literally said she made the decision herself
>Anti-Cover schizos are going all out trying to make it seem like she didn't and that she was "forced" and "threatened" by them
Better than forcing manufactured drama and rrats simply to push your anti-Cover agenda and narratives rather than simply believing Kanata. You keep acting like Cover "shills" are bad but you're literally no fucking better yourself.

>> No.27744375

>>27744284
>than simply believing Kanata.
Tell me one good fucking reason why I should believe Kanata. Just one good fucking reason. Because as of now, I literally can't find one now that all the schizos are attacking everyone that's involved in this.

>> No.27744434

It's fine to accept Cover gave her an unreasonable ultimatum and she had no choice but still made the correct choice because she should never leave Hololive, this also prepared me for when Cover throws more bullshit at her out of irrational fear.

>> No.27744436

>>27744375
when has she ever lied to us?

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>>27742860
It's a real shame we never got to see Rushia and Kanata getting drunk together.

>> No.27744480

>>27744375
If what a handful of schizos is enough to sway your opinion on her than you never trusted her to begin with.

>> No.27744495

>>27744375
Kanata wants to stay in Hololive and keeping herself and others safe is her priority.

>> No.27744535

>>27744210
Because cover has actual management for this kind of things. Vshojo doesnt.

>> No.27744543

>>27744480
I never trusted the schizos, infact I hate all of them.

>>27744495
Tell me something that's not a corporate response.

>> No.27744621

>>27744535
>Vshojo doesnt.
They don't? I doubt you know what they have and don't have since you don't even work there.

>> No.27744643

>>27742860
The replies to this post are so weird when i've seen nothing but Rushia hate here, is it to avoid angering more schizos?

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>>27744543
Right here buddy.

>> No.27744666

>>27744210
So Kanata and cover care more about security than vshojo, doesn't mean anything, it's just safer this way it's not like they won't be friends anymore

>> No.27744685

>>27744621
I thought Vshojo isn't even a company. Or did Kson lie?

>> No.27744687

>>27744543
and yet you're trusting them now, and regurgitating their talking points

>> No.27744707

>>27744436
She's not necessarily lying, just not spilling the beans entirely and giving an explanation where she takes responsibility instead of throwing her employer under the bus. I don't think she was 'forced' so much as put in a situation where this was the least-worst option.

>> No.27744710

>>27744284
>>27744086
It's not an "rrat", its been confirmed by Kson herself. Nothing Kanata said contradicts the idea that Cover pressured her into this, even if the final decision was ultimately hers. It's a "decision" she was pressured into making, not one she wanted to make.

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>>27744643
What do you mean? They've always been one of my favorite pairs in Hololive.

>> No.27744749

>>27744687
>and yet you're trusting them now
I would trust them now because it's more likely that she's lying than not.

>> No.27744789

>>27744749
and what proof do you have of that?
nothing but schizo narratives, that's what

>> No.27744794

>>27744710
I really don't think Kson knows much more about this than us, unless Kanata is breaking NDA and telling her all about her meetings with management

>> No.27744792

>>27744740
He's just trying to stir up shit, ignore him.

>> No.27744857

>>27744710
>person with a vested interest in making a competing company look bad said it so it must be true

>> No.27744887

>>27744789
Oh, so you're just another one of those retards that got brainwashed by the corpo dick. Got it senpai, should've told me sooner. I bet you're also one of those idiots that believe Ayame's excuses everytime she makes a comback stream.

>> No.27744904

>>27744710
>confirmed
Because Kson is a Hololive manager and knows about everything that's currently happening, right?

>>27744749
You can trust in whoever you want, but you're still a fucking retarded for putting your trust on anonymous people.

>> No.27744938

>>27744904
I'm not trusting anyone here. I'm merely trusting my own judgement of the situation.

>> No.27744947

>>27744857
>person with a vested interest in making a competing company look bad
This is just dumb anon, there's no need to reply to a dumb post with a dumb reply.

>> No.27744965

>>27744375
She's extremely cute

>> No.27745010

Just ignore the antis Heibros. I spent almost a whole year dealing with retarded Tatsunocucks (some which probably aren't even real Tatsunoko) as my oshi was their top target in their harassment campaigns one year ago. I hope both Kanatan and Usatan are OK and that everything between her and C-chan works out so they can go on their nice vacation soon.

>> No.27745021

>>27744938
And your own judgement is fucking retarded. You're saying she's a liar based on literally nothing but vague shit. If Kanata is your oshi then who needs antis when they have fans acting like you.

>> No.27745029

>>27735511
I haven’t trusted this bitch since the vday debacle

>> No.27745070

>>27744710
>it's been confirmed by someone completely removed from the company by making a vague "we live in a society" post
You're not convincing anyone.
>It's a "decision" she was pressured into making
She was faced with a problem kson's affiliation presents. You're insane if you think she AND kson don't care about the possibility of her or other members being hurt.

>> No.27745103

>>27745010
Please stay on /jp/ and stop bringing your childish fanbase wars here

>> No.27745153

>>27745021
>And your own judgement is fucking retarded.
Thanks, and so is yours.
>You're saying she's a liar based on literally nothing but vague shit.
>vague shit
Ironic, maybe she herself should stop with the vague explanations then, right?
>If Kanata is your oshi then who needs antis when they have fans acting like you
Wish I was an anti right now, but it's unfortunate that I'm not. I'm just fucking confused at this retarded decision.

>> No.27745193

>>27744904
>>27744794
>I really don't think Kson knows much more about this than us

You think you know the situation better than Kson, Kanata's best friend and self-described "soul mate"? The one that been literally living with her?

I don't even have the words to describe how retarded this is.

>> No.27745281

>>27745070
You're really going to swallow this "she's in danger!!!" nonsense excuse being pushed to make it okay for your employer to dictate who she can and can't live with? Whatever, it's your funeral.

>> No.27745289

>>27745193
>Kanata's best friend and self-described "soul mate"
lul not anymore they're not.

>> No.27745320

>>27745193
You think you know the situation better than anon saying he knows the situation better than Kson who in no way was on that meeting and has no access to Cover's private info unless Kanata is already leaking it?

>> No.27745373

Yeah, I'm gonna wait until she return before I make another thread

>> No.27745410

>kanata goes radio silent again after putting all the pressure on kson to get shitposted on because of her leaving the kanacoco house
Sorry, this is just one giant dick move and I do not appreciate it at all.

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>>27745289
I understand you're only here to shitpost but i wonder what will you do when she happily streams about their trip together and shares all kinds of photos.

>> No.27745424

>>27745373
yeah, that's for the best
hopefully these faggots will have found some new blatant falsehood to get mad about by then

>> No.27745451

>>27745070
>it's been confirmed by someone completely removed from the company by making a vague "we live in a society" post

How many retards are there in this thread that think they know the situation better than Kson, Kanata's best friend/soulmate who has been living with her for over 2 years?

And before you reply, consider that even trying to argue this point just makes you look even more retarded.

>> No.27745459

>>27745281
Good because it'd be Kanata's funeral otherwise. Remember, it would never happen to YOUR oshi until it does.

>> No.27745469

>>27745423
>when she happily streams about their trip together and shares all kinds of photos.
who cares at this point seriously? this is all just business shit and nothing more after this scandal.

>> No.27745499

>>27745451
Why would someone who hasn't been associated with Cover for over a year know anything about what they're doing?

>> No.27745525

>>27745373
I don't see why. People are going to shitpost about it either way, I'd rather at least have a place where people who care about more than drama and shitflinging can gather.

>> No.27745551

>>27745153
You're confused about retarded shit. She decided to move, plain and simple. Why do you care about why she did it? It doesn't affect you if it was forced or completely out of her own volition. If it was truly foul play by Cover then I can guarantee you this story won't end here and in the future we'll see more developments, but right now you have fuck all of info other than what she gave us and you still decided to think this little of her other than trusting your oshi and supporting her. If your convictions are that fucking weak then she was never your oshi

>> No.27745561

>>27745373
Good call.

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>>27745451
Yes anon I too tell my friends all about my business meetings and my soulmate has telepathic bond with me instantly knowing what I think at any moment. By the way if Kanata is already breaking NDA by sharing corporate meeting details with an employee of another company Cover's fears are fully justified.

>> No.27745603

>>27745525
has this thread been anything but drama and shitflinging?
what makes you think the next one will be any different?

>> No.27745608

>>27745525
This thread clearly isn't going to be
>a place where people who care about more than drama and shitflinging can gather
until the dramafags get bored and leave, though
Right now it's just people who believe the words that came out of Kanata's mouth and people that don't arguing past each other because neither will ever change their opinion

>> No.27745609

>>27745320
What are the chances she's never leaked anything to kson? Even one little detail let alone actual insider information? I'd put it at 0%, maybe negative.
So Cover can terminate her tomorrow and she will be as hated as Rushia, unless she does what they want.

>> No.27745633

>>27745551
>She decided to move, plain and simple. Why do you care about why she did it?
nta but much for "muh family". So in the end those words are just one big pile of shit.

>> No.27745698

>>27745633
Would you destroy your dream career because your friend made a dumb fuck choice

>> No.27745723

>>27745603
>>27745608
I think you're overestimate how long people are going to fixate on this.

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Mike's thread is making too much sense, i need to stop lurking other generals because it's hard for myself to defend Cover after this.

>> No.27745756

>>27745633
Last time I checked none of the meanings for family was "conjoined twins".

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Sorry to see your thread like this. It might take a few days but eventually the dramaniggers will go back to shitting up the catalog and the usual threads. Don't lose hope Heimin . I hope our oshis do something again !

>> No.27745772

>>27745698
Let's be real here, no careers are going to be destroyed even if she stayed there.
it's just:
one
big
pile
of
shit

>> No.27745782

>>27745603
I'm not a Heimin, but you guys should make a thread.
A thread is going to be made, with or without your input. You might as well make it, even if you ignore every single post in it. Have you already forgotten the Rushia/Mafumafu thread OPs back in February when antis were harassing the fandead for weeks straight?

>> No.27745791

>>27745320
I'm just relaying what Kson said. You're the idiot trying to question the word of the person who is literally more in tune with Kanata than anyone else in the world. With zero evidence besides.

>She wasn't in the meeting, therefore she must not know anything.

Ignoring the fact that there's no conceivable way Kanata and Kson haven't talked about it extensively, considering that they're best friends and have no choice but to talk about it anyway because they literally live together.

>> No.27745807

>>27745723
Coco is involved, and her fans are the most insane around
They will be stuck on this for a long time

>> No.27745834

>>27745723
We'll see, I'll try making one if it calm down by monday

>> No.27745835

>>27745772
But there's a chance to. A rusk

>> No.27745845

>>27745756
>she's like family now
>we're inseparable
>we're soulmates!
>there's no way we'll ever live apart
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, ANON WAKE UP.

>> No.27745863

>>27745782
I was about to say this, better make a thread on your own term rather than having shitposter hijacking the OP anyway

>> No.27745864

>>27745772
answer the question
Would YOU throw away your life's dream for a friend?

>> No.27745912

>>27745864
I would. Abandoning your dream for a friend sounds more heroic than abandoning your friend for a dream.
Next question please.

>> No.27745938

>>27745845
And that matters to you because? Are you a shipfag mad that you ship might die?

>> No.27745950

>>27745791
Anon, you are literally arguing that Kanata is not the person most in tune with Kanata, since the words that came directly out of her mouth do not match your narrative

>> No.27745957

>>27745609
The only reason why this never led to any troubles is because the information stopped with kson. There was no third party at odds with Cover involved with her. Now that there might be someone interested in leaking that info we're dealing with a whole bunch of unknowns. It's impossible to say what other measures they're taking but Kanata's and kson's involvement is a known unknow that's easy to solve.

>> No.27745958

>>27745698
My dream career doesn't involve having my boss dictate who I'm allowed to be friends with when I'm off the clock.

>> No.27745960

>>27745469
>scandal
Were vtsisters this starved of gossip that they have to blow things out of proportion this much.
This board was a mistake.

>> No.27745988

>>27745912
then your dream must not mean much to you

>> No.27745998

>>27745938
it matters because she said like it's real lmao

now look at where we are! IT'S LITERALLY SUISEI ALL OVER AGAIN!

HAVE YOU NOT LEARNED ANYTHING FROM THIS?

>> No.27746001

>>27745958
Kanata's doesn't either. Nobody said they'll stop being friends or that they can't visit one another.

>> No.27746013

>>27745589
>just a business meeting
You think Kanata hasn't bothered to talk about it with her best friend and was just planning on moving out in the dead of night or something? Stop being retarded.

>> No.27746052

>>27745988
Anon, my dreams don't mean shit if I don't reach that dream without my friends. That's the kind of guy I am. And I'm pretty fucking sure you'll hear that shit in a lot of anime.

>> No.27746107

>>27746052
You don't live in an anime

>> No.27746120

>>27745912
>>27746052
Looking forward to the anime about your life story then, here's hoping it's not an isekai

>> No.27746122

>>27745791
Spare me your spirit link nonsense. You're implying she knows better than Kanata what Kanata wants and needs. This is some abusive relationship shit.
>there's no conceivable way Kanata and Kson haven't talked about it extensively
So there's no way they didn't arrive to this lamentable but logical conclusion on their own, right? Glad that's solved.

>> No.27746139

>>27746107
>>27746120
I accept your concession

>> No.27746174

>>27745912
>more heroic
And the reason to care is?

>> No.27746179

This is going nowhere

>> No.27746199

>>27746139
That's a weird name for an anime.

>> No.27746228

>>27746179
good, there isn't really anywhere for it to go

>> No.27746240

>>27746013
This is exactly what people imply when they say "Cover forced her to move".

>> No.27746293

>>27745958
They're literally planning a trip together Cover doesn't give a shit about Kson it's vshojo they don't trust

>> No.27746295

>>27746179
and it won't until these brainless fucks get bored and go to the new """controversy""" of the week

>> No.27746317

Lots of long posts on here, 5ch, and Twitter holy shit some people are too affected by this

>> No.27746344

>Kanata wants to continue to pursue her career as an idol for as long as possible
>Kson gave her an ultimatum to quit Hololive and join Vshojo or move out
>Kanatan stays with Hololive
And Kanata is somehow the bad guy here? Why can't kson just back off?

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So many falseflag threads on the catalog, yikes, please don't give in to this fake fanbase war

>> No.27746375

I'm going to remind you faggots again. She's going to abandon kson, just like how she abandoned Suisei.
Don't say I didn't warn you.

>> No.27746386

>>27746317
It's amazing how many people think it's such a big deal that a couple girls arrived at the conclusion that it would be inconvenient to keep living together for work reasons.

>> No.27746404

>>27746375
I fucking hope so
the less she's associated with that magnet for the mentally ill the better

>> No.27746421

>>27746375
see >>27739690

>> No.27746435

>>27746344
keep trying

>> No.27746457

>>27746375
Sorry, abandoning people is her specialty. I really can't defend her over that.

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>>27746375
Path to greatness is a lonely one indeed but she'll manage.

>> No.27746577

>>27745950
Kanata didn't say anything to contradict the idea that Cover pressured her into moving out. All she said was that it was "her decision" but that doesn't mean Cover wasn't pressuring her. Learn to read between the lines.

Also if there's anyone who genuinely believes all of us complaining are just Vshojo shills or whatever I'm just letting you know in advance that you're very very wrong. Many of us are here because we actually care about Kanata and are rightfully pissed about her getting treated like shit, and so should you. This rage is not going to go away any time soon.

>> No.27746642

while there are lots of schizos trying to start fanbase wars, just know that the japanese are on kanata's side

>> No.27746652

bros... I dreamed of tenshi ASMR for this month... it was the time... not like this...
i just hope that living alone again will make her horny as sin since now she can scream and walk nude around the house all over again.

>> No.27746656

>>27746577
So you don't trust Kanata.

>> No.27746671

>>27746642
There is no fucking "side" you idiot

>> No.27746680

>>27746577
I have read between the lines and concluded that she chose to move out because Friend C was threatening to beat her senseless with a baseball bat if she didn't
This is equally possible to prove or disprove as whatever you're saying (ie not at all) and based on the same level of information (I made it up because I am off my meds)

>> No.27746694

>>27746642
>just know that the japanese are on kanata's side
Now that's actually really bad, like real bad.

>> No.27746696

>>27746642
Are they? I don't believe you at all.

>> No.27746717

>>27746577
post your membership

>> No.27746747

>>27746652
oh god, it just downed on me
she's going to stop showering every day isn't she?

>> No.27746763

>>27746577
The fact that she made decision that protects company's interest doesn't mean the company pressured her into making it, neither does it mean she had no desire to make such a decision in the first place.

>> No.27746765

>>27746577
>Learn to read between the lines
And the lines could be very well ramblings from your schizo mind.

>> No.27746803

>>27746747
stinky kanata is my favorite kanata, at least we got something good out from all of this

>> No.27746848

>there is absolutely no way that massive idolfag and Hololive fan Amane Kanata would EVER choose to stay with Cover unless they were literally forcing her to

>> No.27746865

>>27746763
>doesn't mean the company pressured her into making it,
oh come on. can't we all just stop being delusional here for ONE fucking minute?

>> No.27746928

>>27746680
>>27746765
>ignoring all the evidence including direct statements made by Kson to pretend it "just an rrat"

Is this the only tactic you dimwits have?

>> No.27746935

>>27746642
That makes sense because Kanata is being a good girl and staying within Japanese cultural norms while kson is unnecessarily rocking the boat...

>> No.27746985

>>27746928
>vague posting is a direct statement
Sure thing, anon. Proof next thread, right?

>> No.27746996

>>27746928
>vague statement by a Vshojo employee interested in shitting on Cover
ogey

>> No.27747026

>>27746996
You have 20 different threads on the catalog to spread lies do you really have to do it here too?

>> No.27747034

>>27746865
>they pressured her because...because they just did okay?

>> No.27747085

>>27746763
>>27746386

>it was just a business decision
You think their friendship meant nothing? That they were faking it all along? Because that's what you're implying.

>> No.27747097

>>27747026
That's where you came from right? Go back.

>> No.27747112

>>27747034
>literally made the decision the same time kson got announced in vshojo
SURE THING BRO THEY JUST DID OKAY

>> No.27747135

>>27746848
What makes it mutually exclusive? In America there are real life couples that work for opposing political campaigns, let alone "professional streamer" corporations. Cover is your political party.

>> No.27747159

>>27747026
>NO YOU HAVE TO LET ME POST MY SCHIZO BULLSHIT WITHOUT ANY COUNTERARGUMENT

>> No.27747165

>>27747085
>they'll stop being friends the moment they stop living together
No, YOU think their friendship means nothing.

>> No.27747247

>>27746985
>>27746996
There was nothing vague about Kson's statement beyond her not mentioning names.

>> No.27747283

>>27747112
They've made a decision months ago because Kanata and kson have been discussing it for a long time.

>> No.27747303

>>27747247
What time we live in that society-tier comments are used as proof.

>> No.27747337

>>27746747
and that's a good thing

>> No.27747351

>>27747247
>there is nothing vague about statement that doesn't say anything direct
You have brain problems.

>> No.27747366

>>27747283
>They've made a decision months ago
lol that's not what happened. we all know that's not what happened.

>> No.27747381

>>27747247
I thought it was unclear whether it was her opinion on a specific issue or she just accidentally copy/pasted a vshojo marketing powerpoint into a youtube post actually

>> No.27747489

>>27747366
Except we know that's exactly what happened because kson made a decision to join vhsojo months ago and they had plenty of time to discuss it.

>> No.27747617

Well see you all in 1 month, at Sabaody Archipelago

>> No.27747621

>>27747489
>had plenty of time to discuss it
>g-guys emergency meeting
>literally after kson's announcement in vshojo
LOL surely I'm not the only one connecting the dots here.

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>>27747165
Their relationship won't be the same after this. Kson is obviously upset. I don't know what Kanatan is feeling on the inside but I don't think she would put Kson through this unless she felt compelled to and there's no way "security concerns" or antis or whatever are enough to make her give up like this. Kanata's not afraid of shit like that.

>> No.27747741

>>27747654
>Kanata's not afraid of shit like that.
well, lucky her,but it's too bad that's not the same for kson.

>> No.27747758

I'll always love Kanata! I love you heimins too!

>> No.27747795

i love kanatan and i love souchou. whatever happens i hope they remain friends and i hope they are ok.

>> No.27747831

On another note, did anyone buy the sanrio goods?

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>>27734021
I think your oshi is great and I'm rooting for her.

>> No.27747964

>>27747381
>or she just accidentally copy/pasted a vshojo marketing powerpoint into a youtube post
I got a similar impression from her recent Q&A stream.

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