/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Yeah, risk aversion. That's the term!

the average american woman is 170 pounds
let that sink in

>>27732764
that just how average couples cope with their divorce

KANATA BROKE UP WITH KSON BECAUSE KSON IS GETTING FAT!

she chose the wrong woman and now it's too late

>>27732764
If you want to see sadness pay for a membership

They've always said so and even said the main reason their co-inhabitation worked was because they didn't really bother each other.

>>27732841
There is no way this is real.
I'm 180 (used to be 220) and I'm considered more of a walking wardrobe than a person.

>>27732841
>The average American woman weighs more than me, a 6'1 white Caucasian man with a healthy BMI
Haha

>>27732946
I'm membered to Kanata, but everything seems normal here. Dunno about Kson since some Ksonfags (?) seem to be saying that she is implying something in her most recent member post?

>>27733014
kson is in a downward spiral
it's so bad she's making members upgrade memberships just to see her doomposts

>>27733014
>The world everyone sees, the world we see and the world we want to show is so different

>It's sad, but a world built on a lot of tears and sacrifices isn't a good world, a world that uses vtubers and fans like hostages isn't a good world!

>But the emotional bond between vtubers is strong at all times
>Even if you're not allowed to show it to everyone, you still have deep friends.
>You can't control what's in your heart, no one can!
>Let's go everybody time to have fun

>>27733012
having a "healthy BMI" at 6"1' is DYEL lanklet tier, dude.

>>27733072
Jesus Christ, next level cope and damage control. Kanata dumped her sellout ass.

I never shipped these two because I'm not and have never been into the homolive side, only faggots ship two women with eachother and thats also cuckoldry as a viewer to do so

>>27733072
crypticposting is jap culture

>>27733012
Anon...

>>27733072
>a world that uses vtubers and fans like hostages isn't a good world
It's a direct attack at Hololive

>>27733072
Finally someone has the balls to post it.
Yeah this is impliying some third party inferring

>>27733072
>>27733014
Proofs or gtfo
Screenshots

>>27733110
>>27733159
At least I'm not a fat fuck or a woman, bro

>>27733139
You have to be cryptic otherwise they can sue your ass to Oblivion and you can damage or ruin your friends' carreers. That shit is fucked

>>27733168
>trusting a person that spent an entire stream sucking off vshojo management for money

>>27733179
>>27733014 (Me)
Idk. I'm not membered to Kson. Only heard from /vt/ that she was implying something. I assume that's what this anon posted >>27733072

>>27733072
Holy shit they really did make her move.
What the hell is going on at Hololive?

>>27733072
>/vt/ will believe this is real

>DYEL autistic lanklet is a hooman
pottery

>>27733185
You're an owlcuck, plausibly worse

>>27733163
Sounds like coping when her friend didn't decide to stay with her and Rushia. VTubers asides, how could Hololive use fans like hostages?

>>27733273
ALL OUT WAR

>>27733295
I just wanted to post a chubby owl.

>>27733277
It's entirely possible that Rushia's menheraness infected her, though

>>27733340
Very well, chubbychaser anon..

>>27732764
Kson rent free in k*nata's head. get fucked whore, go suck managers dick

>>27733225
>Trusting a company that is known to use technics like banishment room and limit what the talent can say
This can go both ways. It's meaningless

I trust Kanata, if she say kson's vshojo membership and decided backstabbing whore I'm leaving you and I'm taking the rabbits, then that's the reality. Sad that kson got dumped over a business decision

>>27733072
Is this from the same person who left FBK to deal with the chinks all by herself?

>>27733277
If it's not real just post the screenshot yourself or shut the fuck up forever

>>27733380
>I'm leaving you and I'm taking the rabbits
The rabbit have cancer so i'm not really counting on that.

>>27733072
I wonder if people will actually believe this without a real screenshot.

>>27733413
Why would she continue to give hololive 50% cut of everything when she was locked in quarantine? This argument is stupid. Even if she broke quarantine against manager wishes the chinabots would attack whoever she was collabing with. You are blaming the victim.

I do wonder how the EN girls who idolised her as Coco feel about her now. I'm sure word gets around inside the company rather fast.

>>27733658
She antagonized the chinks then ran away leaving the other Holo members to deal with there shit while she's getting fat as fuck eating steak for dinner in America.

She preaches about friendship and all kinds of other stuff but all she cares about is herself.

>>27733718
You tell chinks to spam Kson or shut up

>>27733277
It's real , I can confirm

>>27732841
Architect bros...

>Kson has ambitions and moves forward in life
>fucking whore
>Kanata is a useless potato
>wtf I love her

>>27733810
>Kson has ambitions
Stopped reading there

>>27733810
>ambitions
>ranted about how great it was to be an indie for a year and how she'd never get tied down
>instantly sells out and makes a stream where she sucks off vshojo management and talks about how great they are the moment she's offered money

Kanata only loves her fans
not some sellout whore

move on ksontards
it's over

>>27733810
Women shouldn't have "ambitions"

>>27733163
Funny thing is, it applies to Rushia and her suicidebaiting

>>27733749
Me too. My uncle works with Kson he force fed her until she became chubby. And he told me it's true.

>>27733855
>>27733881
>>27733898
t. zhang

>>27733898
incelchama...

>>27733976
That doesn't work anymore tatsucuck. I'm 100% pure bavarian phenotype.

>>27733976
t. iananmen square

>>27733881
The rule under Vshojo as closer to an indie than anything else. It's like upd8 used to be.
>Not an employee because no salary
>So doesn't have to ask permissions for every single game
She's effectively still indie in the big parts that matters

>>27733810
Sure thing bud

>>27733976
One can hate the chinese and at the same time have run out of good will for Kson.

>>27733072
>ISAREAL

T2 member post

In the end there is a fair amount of blame to go around, no party is fully at fault nor fully innocent.

>Cover didn't fire Coco but hung her out to dry for months (no sponsors, no HoloGra, prohibited HoloEN collabs, YT Mod fiasco)
>Cover didn't provide Rushia the support she needed and expected someone unstable to wait while the internet shat upon her
>Mikeneko is too Menhera for her own good
>Kson took Mikeneko under her wing and then went a step too far and brought her along into joining VShojo
>Vshojo and Kson roll out VShojoJP marketing campaign in a way that is passive-aggressive towards Cover Corp

The end result, over a year in the making, finally claimed its first innocent collateral damage victim in Kanata

>>27733277
>>27733611
It's real. The Kson thread confirmed it. >>27733956

>>27733413
>This retrad doesn't understand she create sanctuary for Fubuki if she left Hololive

>>27734164
Screenshot doko

>>27734164
Imagine being so dumb you believe that. 100% the post you linked was the same schizo who made the fake leak here.
Do not believe their lies.

>>27734164
>goes in thread
>posts this
>samefags
>still no screenshot of original Japanese
RUMAO

>>27734198
Screenshot is on the farms

>>27734129
>Cover didn't provide Rushia the support she needed and expected someone unstable to wait while the internet shat upon her
She went fucking menhera a holiday at 1 am barely 2 hours after it happened trying to do damage control by herself giving private information to some random dramatuber, how is that supposed to be Cover's fault?

What's wrong with Kanata?
First Suisei now Kson just leave her ass
Is she the problem?

>>27733012
Assuming you're not lying, high five, my fellow 6' tall caucasian man who isn't a fat fuck. Our kind is rare around these parts apparently.

>>27734260
>Talent having a breakdown
>Manager: Chooto matteee I am resting please wait one day.
This is some support right there.

>>27734301
>Work out
>Now I'm fat
Damn, I got bamboozled.

>>27733810
Kanatan's 3D lives show that she's working harder than many, she've done her reps and it's even more amazing considering she's literally slowly going deaf. But I guess idol ambitions are not the right kind of ambitions for vshitjoturds. Kill yourself this fucking instant.

>>27733855
>Kson has ambitions
Yeah, destroy Hololive

>>27734214
See >>27734239

>be a fucking retard with no common sense
>this is your manager's fault somehow
cope

>>27734367
Post here you fucking coward.

Kanata will always go for her idol dream
she is biggest Hololive idolfag
it's wild how people thought that line of thinking will not clash with Coco

>>27734367
bring it here then retard

>>27734342
BMI is only accurate if you're thin. If you're able to bench 200+ your BMI is probably not going to be as relevant as your BF% and muscle strength.

>>27734301
I'm not, I've been losing weight from 180 to around 168. I got sick too which brought me down to 162 at one point with dehydration. And I'm not a femboy fag either.

>>27734129
Add these too
>Cover said in their statement for Rushia that they don't interfere with Talent's personal life.
>Interfer Kanata's personal life by forcing/fear-mongering Kanata to move out

>>27734480
>it was revealed to me in a dream
take your meds you fucking schizo

>>27734333
>>27734129
>>27734480
50 cents has been deposited to your vcucks shill account.

>>27733072
Kson fags will insist this is fake and that she isn't talking about Hololive

>>27734260
>Rushia: I need help, please! I'm losing my mind over this please help me!
>Manager: RUMAO, its holiday sweetheart. Just wait 3 days and we'll fix everything. Its only 72 hours sweetie, you'll be fine. Tick Tock Tick Tock.

>>27732764
>SHIPPERS
Are more mental than unicorns that should tell you everything every holo is straight and yuri baits shippers are the only niggas dumb enough to believe play flirting equals lesbian couple.

>>27734645
Oh yeah, I completely forgot that managers are slaves that need to babysit their menhera talents that can't lay low for a couple of days without going to dramatubers to fuck their situation even harder.

>>27734645
She literally just had to stay quiet
She's good at faking things

>>27732764
NOO

>>27734668
Idk, kronii sounds like an actual dyke when she said she'd rather die than become a concubine like Irys during their collab.

>>27734698
You'd think if you have a big earner who is nutty you'd set up a secondary manager who can tap in when the primary one isn't available.

>>27734562
>>27734553
>"Risk aversion"
Totally does not Cover interfering with Talent's Private Life btw

>>27734562
I'm the middle one, did you not see the last 2 lines where I also mentioned Kson and VShojo fucking up as well in this whole saga?

>>27732764
They were, otherwise how else would've kson experience domestic abuse from kanata? she "fell down the stairs" once to explain why she had bruises all over her leg, dont think a friend would do that, thats something a lover does.

>>27732764
they're moving to a cunt where they can get married

>>27734771
Only valid if you believe whatever is in your schizo head instead of what Kanata said on stream

https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/2g6ywdul-jpg.3470221/

>>27734698
>High Risk High Reward Talent
Ya...let's not give an extra little effort with regards to something like this. You do know most jobs nowadays are 24/7 since you're a phonecall away from being pulled in to work on an emergency.

Unless of course you're government with a strict 5/40 workweek.

they are idols, even kson to some weird degree. Did you really think they would portray something as less than a happy occasion?

>>27734771
same vibes, Cover statements are worth less than a pile of shit

Now shut up.

>>27734902
the equivalent of taking a picture of your pc screen, thanks

>>27734873
There's no contradiction. Cover told her to move because of "risk aversion". Personally if my boss told me I had to move because my roommate worked at a competitor I would just quit but my job isn't as good as Kanata's.

>>27734903
Maybe in Murka. I'm on call for emergencies from 0900 to 2100. Outside of that? Get fucked.
If it's serious enough call the fire fighters.

>>27734945
holy, shes delusional with a savior complex.

I've never seen a board on this site defend a corporation as hard as /vt/ defends Cover at every single turn, no matter what. Holy shit.

>>27733138
That's only cuckoldry if you're delusioned enough to think there's something between your oshi and you.
Just go outside and get yourself a real girl

>>27734902
Understandable. Have a nice day

>>27734902
god can KF please turn on their registrations again so retards like this can stop coming here

>>27734873
So can you disprove Cover's statement? Kanata's stream also mention that the management says it a
"risk aversion" by influencing her to move.

>unironic kiwiniggers post here

>>27733996
>100% pure bavarian phenotype
An error of nature then

>>27735006
kill yourself chink
Hololive keeps winning while you keep seething

>>27734945
GET REKT BICTH

>>27734771
So why didn't she quit and join Vshojo if they're so perfect? I'm sure they'll instantly accept her and give her record deals like Kson said.

>>27734969
>Maybe in Murka
Pretty much, workers movement didn't really work out here in the States, ya know? I'm sure you know May 1st, the internationally recognized Workers/Labor Day? Guess what its called here in 'Murka'; Loyalty Day.

That's right, Loyalty Day.

>>27733185
don't let the niggers shame you! you're good.

>>27735214
Do you think someone like Kanata takes such a risk? Please open your eyes to reality anon.

>>27734755
>>27734903
Motherfuckers she went to the dramanigger mere hours after the stream. Do you really think Cover should've set a manager living on her house to restrain that dumb menhera like the fucking police whenever something like this happens? She's a 30+ yo woman, and Cover is not a babysitter company. It's her problem if she can't sit her retarded butt and wait for a couple of days until it wasn't a national holiday anymore.

>>27735261
How do you even make posts like this? If it weren't such garbage, I would almost be impressed with your creativity.

>>27735013
No. :(

>Kanata addresses this directly
>"No, she's wrong!"

/vt/ in a nutshell

Its not that deep anons.
you loke like teenage girls gossiping.
From all available in the farms plus the vods it's easy to see how it went.
we have:
>Kanata's words about risk
>kson member tier 2 post about hostages
Companies usually take care in letting their emplyes know the risks of NDA break when near others in the same field of work. Cover talking with kanata about the risks involved in working with someone who does not care for privacy and anonimity at this point is not weird, it's clear kson is bitter about it, but cover CANNOT by law, force kanata to move, this decision comes from kanata and only from her after thinking the new situation.
and can you blame her? If she's really involved with mknk, the best girl out there guarding secrets, it's not weird.
What feels wrong to me is how kson didn't talk about this with kanata beforehand, otherwise they would have know how to proceed beforehand and not suddenly

>>27735321
Mikeneko really is fucking nuts. Her happy ending is to be locked away with her simps in a safespace padded cell until the end of her life, but fucking Kson had to rope her in. With a RIVAL CORPO.

>>27733891
Kanata is still getting railed by that "sellout" landwhale. You cant do anything against

>>27735415
kson was busy sucking cocks in LA to bother talking with kanata

>>27735498
source?
>I made it up

>>27735415
nice conspiracy theory there anon.

>>27734945
Israel?

>>27735198
I guess the yagoos dick tastes really good

>>27735288
What risk. Kson said they give you everything.
Why didn't she just quit?

>>27735620
Thats like asking for sextapes of the hollywood celebrities

>>27735666
Because there's no reason to assume she would retain her audience after she rebranded, Satan. Moving to a new corpo is a huge risk and it's understandable though sad why she took this path instead.

>>27735666
Your reply is making you sound fucking underaged. Please come back after you have work experience.

>>27735415
Somewhat believable rrat so I'll bite, the reason why Kanata didn't move before it's probably because she didn't know about Mikeneko getting on board too, so it went for "ok, I trust C friend to not leak anything" to "I trust C friend but I can't risk all I have for fucking mikeneko".

Fucking hilarious that the 3DPD is cucking her t1 subs though

just quit your job lol

>Rushia gets canned
>still ruins things from the outside
I hate her. I'm pissed those bus slashing bugs didn't fly to Japan to hunt her down.

>>27735827
>>27735794
>JUST BECAUSE OK?!

Can't you really figure out how much dangerous could be for Kanata stream in the same house alongside Rushia? Kanata must leave if she want to continue streaming without the constant danger to getting her room invaded by a unstable menhera.

The problem is Kson convinced herself that she can control her (Mikeneko) but Kanata, maybe after speak with her manager, is not convinced.

It's just basic risk management.

>>27736007

>>27735651
Israel

>>27734129
99% of the blame falls on Cover for the Kson situation, and on Rushia for her own demise. I'd blame chinks but you need to be sentient to be morally wrong.

>>27734480
>>Cover said in their statement for Rushia that they don't interfere with Talent's personal life.
The funniest part is that they said that despite it coming to light that management told Rushia not to interact with Korekore months prior despite him being a long time friend of hers when she sent him new years greetings.

>>27736400
Idiot

>>27736462
Don't sign your posts after emptyquoting.

>>27736462
Yeah, we now Rushia is an idiot.

>>27735651
No, palestine.

>>27732841
>>27733797
It should be larger....

>>27736400
At this point I don't know if there are still fancucks this delusional or it's just a nijinigger trying to shit on Cover

>>27736400
>Hey don't send literal company messages to a know dramanigger
>WAAAH THEY'RE INTERFERING WITH MY PERSONAL LIFE
/vt/ is a den of brain-damaged people.

>>27735415
>From all available in the farms
stay there you fucking subhuman

So if understand correctly, this all boils down to Kson taking a gamble in not merely just doing future collabs with an indie Mikeneko down the line but bringing her in and making her a genmate in the new VShojoJP and Cover calling her bluff and providing Kanata a choice while Kson watches appalled?

>>27736513
>>27736574
>>27736462
Bronies are legitimately mentally ill. Cover could execute a talent on the spot on a whim and they'd defend them.

>27736717
Sure thing.

>>27736750
meant for >>27736717

>>27736717
Yes.

>>27736598
gonna cry?

>>27735857
>didn't know about Mikeneko getting on board too
kson probably was under NDA about mike

>27736779
Meds.

>>27736007
Don’t forget that since vshojo is basically just indies who incorporate to handle business stuff together and their content is pretty much not controlled at all, that kson doesn’t risk anything if mikeneko does something stupid, but Kanata will if she stays in the same apartment as kson

>>27733072
>a world that uses vtubers and fans like hostages isn't a good world!
She's actually gone full retard holy shit. She needs to take her fucking meds.

>>27736779
I've seen posts like this on /a/ too
is this a bot or are you genuinely autistic?

>>27736717
>they could've broke NDA

>>27736717
>Please don't give info to a dramatuber
>Please be aware of the risks
Have you fags ever worked in any fucking company?

>>27736598
>show proof or you are just a rrat peddler!
>posts proof
>what the fuck thats too much for /vt/ out of all places get out!

Holochad status?

>>27736641
goddamn this is addicting

Being in the same room as Rushia is major mental risk. Kanata's choice is a good one.

>>27736947
cumming to mel' feet

>>27736898
She was warned before they even knew she had given him info..

>>27736899
HAHA HOLY KEKS ANON
TOTALLY PWNED (OWNED) THAT GUY EPIC STYLE

>>27736717
You are fucking stupid, Cover controls what their talents do when they are vtubing, they DO NOT control their personal life beyond that.

When they say "Rushia should not interact with X person" they don't mean the girl behind the chuuba, idiot.

>>27736947
Can't stop winning

>>27737057
he did and that guy is (you) lol

You have to be fucking mental to think being near Mike is a good idea.

>>27737102
Mikeneko sent the greeting.

>>27733072
So basically, she's seething that Kanata chose Hololive, her music career and the other Holos over her and going menhera because of it.
She also just wants in on the Holobox without being an actual Holo anymore. She feels she has a right to the Hololive fanbase because she was a Holo, and because she isn't getting that Cover is holding the "hololive vtubers and fans hostage"?
She's literally just the equivalent of a /vt/ schizo peddling retarded narratives because she's seething kek. You can't make this shit up.
She and Mike deserve each other.

People keep flinging shit but can't come up with a solution.

How do you solve the problem of your literal room mate working with someone for the company that just fired for leaking confidential information? I don't see what other options Cover or Kanata had, Kson chose this rodeo when she convinced Rushia to join VShojo.

Wait was Mike moving in with Kanata and Kson? Is this why she's leaving?

>>27737179
NDA breaking send another one

>>27735415
her choices were probably to move or get left in the dark of anything happening in the company. if not, she would be the first suspect for any leaks

>Kson choose her career and mknk
>Kanatan choose her career and holomens

that's pretty much it, though kson is seething about it a lot

>>27735644
>nice conspiracy theory there anon.
he has a point though, they've been living together for 2 years now, but why did kson hide it to her and just shove it to her in one go?

Is this really a real close friend?

when you think about it its better to be kson and mike, hololive is a nice place and all. And sure vshojo is a dump. But I'd rather be in dump looking at a nice place, rather than the other way around right?

>>27737057
dont copepost with my shitposting oshi

>>27734260
>Expecting Menhera Prime to put trust in the same management that wanted Chinese mods
No sane person would, much less R*shia.
Reminder that she was scouted for Gen 3.

>>27733072
>she's actually depressed that Kanata chose her literal dream job over going with her to talk about dicks or whatever with Vshojo

>>27734808
> she "fell down the stairs"
I always knew Kanata-kun was a man. Fucking lying whore! She (he) wanted to meet Gakki to NTR Hoshino Gen!

are we just making shit up itt?

kson's ego is getting out of control.

>>27734633
It's not clear what is she even talking about, at least for me. It's really too vague of a statement and can only breed rrats before we hear something more to put it all together.

>>27736836
No she doesn't lmao. Do you seriously think you would get into trouble if a roommate's genmate did something dumb? Not even your roommate themselves, but their genmate? If being that many degrees of separation away from a yab was an issue, half the industry would get into trouble with every yab.

>>27732764
>YOU FUCKING SHIPPERS LIED TO ME
No.
They lied to you.

>Kanata wanted to get away from kson as soon as possible before she got corrupted as well
Nice. I will now follow her

Kson isn't only friend Kanata has (had?) that should follow her like a pet
Kanataso has agency and is independent human being with her own dreams and goals

>>27737321
wtf is wrong with kson?

>>27737756
If Rushia leaks info she could only learn from being around Kanata, it's not really "roommate's genmate" fuckup.

>>27737881
of course, that's obvious to anyone that isn't a threadreader who thinks her existence begins and ends at Coco

>>27737907
narcissism
she thought just suddenly springing this on her friend would make her instantly give up her dream and follow her because she's just THAT amazing a friend
and then Kanata didn't do what Kson wanted

>>27737907
you don't undestand, kanata was supposed to be her sidekick forever

You kids sure love your drama uh? It's safe to say you will all grow up to be some nosy gossiping bitches

>>27737907
she's trying to be some sort of V-Tuber saviour that no one asked for.

>>27738112

>she thought just suddenly springing this on her friend

two years living together
kinda fuckedup for being friends

and then Kekson Apologist continue to glorify her action

>>27738237
So she's just American?

>>27738278
Yes

>>27733012
>6"1
>Sub 170
Can you even run up a hill? Are you only like 30cm at the shoulders or something?

>>27736717
I'd start payfagging all of their talents if they shinzo abe'd traitorous whores.

>>27733072
they just streamers with anime avatars marie

It'll be the funniest shit if the angel is not mikeneko in the end.

>>27738458
holy shit would be hilarious

>>27738458
>>27738574
>all that "subtle" nudge-nudge wink-wink were false alarms
I will kneel and grudgepost till the end of time

What did she mean by this

>>27738458
well kson need to save somebody and there's not much candidates

>>27738804
It all comes tumbling down
tumbling down
tumbling down
It all returns to nothing

>>27738804

Falseflaggers are out of their containment
multiple rrats filled with lies and insinuate tribalism

who knows the truth
I believe what kanata says
Kanata is a good girl

Kson..... A little

>>27738804
probably about a few Japanese rrat sites. one of them uploads really dumb schizo rrats from 5chs anti threads 24/7 and its getting popular.

>>27738804
It says a lot about vt that they didn't know shit, they didn't know what's going on at the back, they didn't know the truth therefore they are just spewing false claims and narrative.

Btw just enjoy.

>>27739073

the one who lose here are the one who seethe.

Its a Survival of the Seethest

>>27739073
But anon, kanata statement and kson statement literally contradict each other.
Kanata has talked about friend C and how she will keep calking about friend C
Kson says they have to pretend to not be friends anymore
?????

>>27738369
I'm just not fat dude.
And I don't believe in centimeters, but I just took out a tape measure and I'm roughly 18" wide or around 46cm across from top of shoulder to shoulder.

>>27737184
>Let's call it a menhera to deflect the fact that cover interferes in the personal life of the talent.
Wow if being sad is the equivalent of being angry and menhera what would you call what would you call every depressed holo?

>>27738458
/vt/ will be filled “Oh no nono” and “APOLOGIZE” thread for week

>>27739411

I really do believe that nazu is meant for kanata not for miguel, but kanata refuse to leave hololive over kson.

I have perfect health. My doctor literally said my blood is holy elixier, since i am also O- of blood type.
I weight 107kg. On every BMI test i would count as overweight, yet if we go by fat percentage i would be thinner than 85% of people.
You can't even see the fat on me. I have a huge surface so the fat is just thinly below my skin.
If you know math you will know how volume works.
100kg can be extremely overweight, or even starving. Your weight is no indicator of your health.
There are these thin beansprouts in danger of diabetes and heart failure calling you fat on the internet.

>>27739929

Anon... your meds.....

>>27739639
Why would kson prepare a model without asking? Why would she think anybody currently employed would change their jobs just like that?

It makes no sense. It's more probable that MenheraCat changed her stalking target and want to replace Kanata.

>>27739639
I choose to believe this rrat

>>27737184
>>27733130
>>27737393

what? how do you even read it that way? she's literally saying they will remain friends and that hololive is using their corporate power to make her move out. "vtubers and fans being held hostage" is exactly how i would describe "move out or we fire you, delete your channel, and separate you from your fans"

do they seriously not teach reading comprehension anymore in school? wtf is wrong with you people

>>27738804
Kson quickly speedrunning going mental like Rushia and burning all remaining bridges 100%

>>27740106
>she didn't quit her dream to join me to talk about sex and dicks in Vshojo, she's being held hostage :(

>>27740253
there's literally people posting bullshit IN THIS THREAD saying she hates kanata and is going "menhera" because they can't understand that she threw some shade at the corporation that forced her friend to move out. companies are not your friends, companies are not the talents, stop simping for a bunch of rich japanese men telling your oshi she can't do things.

>>27740421
brainlet, she's not complaining about kanata's decision, she's complaining that cover made kanata move out.

>But the emotional bond between vtubers is strong at all times
>Even if you're not allowed to show it to everyone, you still have deep friends.
>You can't control what's in your heart, no one can!

literally saying "we'll still be friends, even if they want to punish us for being friends". can you not fucking read?

>>27739639
This is a juicy rrat

>>27740634
Of course she would say Kanata was forced to move, because she's a narcissist that can't imagine people would prioritize their own desires over hers so there MUST be some outside force making it happen

>>27740634
>vwhore lies
Oh, okay

Imagine unironically believing that any Vtuber is a lesbian. There doesn't need to be a conspiracy if interests converge, and Vtubers have a very strong interest in convincing their audiences that they prefer women.

>>27740732
BRO WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? Cover is forcing her, they gave her a decision:
Move out or lose your IP, your job, you channel, and all your fans.
Not a single person, even kson, is blaming her for making the decision to stay.
The point is: COVER SHOULDN'T DO THIS.
Why are you guys so fucking pea-brained? Can you not handle a complex thought? You can be made to do things you don't want to do by people threatening to take away the things you love.

>>27740510
Explain why Kanata didn't just quit instantly and join Vshojo. According to Kson Vshojo is perfect and just hands you everything you want and need. She has nothing to lose.

>>27740906
>Cover is forcing her, they gave her a decision:
>Move out or lose your IP, your job, you channel, and all your fans.
Surely if you're saying this so authoritatively you have some proof?

>>27740906

What a one sided approached.
Cover ==bad, Kson ==good
Corpo is evil!
Jesus! This Kekson Apologist really trying hard to make their oshi some kind of a anime protagonist.

>>27740906
see >>27740970

>>27740906
>source: my wet dreams
kys

>>27740906

>kson gets fat and insists vshojo gives her an angel sidekick for some godforsaken reason
>kanata dumps her
>baaaaaah cover evil

Cover is unironically the best vtubing company to ever exist. Going against Cover means going against the good will of the only sane part of the vtuber fandom. Kson will pay for her insolence.

>>27740906
literally take medicine chang

>>27740906
Absolutely based, only bugmen would think otherwise.

>>27732841
I already have a sink, thank you very much

>>27740906
More like they gave her a strict set of guidelines she has to adhere to in order to not violate her NDA, which aren't realistic for someone living with a rival company's employee who will likely have other employees over at their house.
>>27740970
It was perfect for where kson's interests lie. Kanata wants to focus on her music career before she's fucking deaf and hololive have a substantially larger presence in Japan and connections with actual music labels like Universal.

>>27740106
>and that hololive is using their corporate power to make her move out.
Your job can't demand that you change your living situation unless it can give an adequate legal reason, and even then it would have to be something incredibly serious, like not living in a drug den. Especially so when your job is literally remote work that you can do from anywhere. Dumb nigger.

>>27740970
Why would she? That's a huge risk. She has an audience, she is getting to make music, and perform on stage. this is her dream. give that all up JUST so she can live with her friend? who would be that stupid? they can still be friends, cover literally cannot stop them. VShojo COULD do a lot of these things, but they don't have the built in audience.

Like i fucking said, NO ONE blames her, this is the RIGHT decision. The problem here is the over-reach by cover making her move out just because Kson joined VShojo. It's a silly, pointless, and ultimately cruelty for cruelty's sake.

>>27740106
>vtubers and fans being held hostage
if you don't recognize that this is literal menhera raving then you're lost

>>27733810
>>Kson has ambitions
By joining VTweeters and reaction video "content creators"?

>>27741507
bro you know nothing about japanese laws, how they are enforced, or how the "idol industry" works. they have literally made girls shave off all their hair because they were dating a dude, and that's if they don't straight up fire them.
they don't live in america, they dont live by american laws, or american social norms. suing your company over something like this would make you literally un-hirable for the rest of your life.

>>27741544
She probably just realized she will not ba able to avoid Rushia and wants to keep her sanity intact.

>>27741544
>cover making her move out
you keep saying this and not posting any proof

>>27734129
>>Cover didn't provide Rushia the support she needed
like what? therapy sessions she probably wouldn't even go to? you can't force a mentally ill person to do anything unless you use threats of physical force

>>27741684
>they have literally made girls shave off all their hair because they were dating a dude
go back to plebbit

>>27741645
it's a fucking metaphor my brainless little corporate-cock sucker. not LITERALLY hostages. but if they OWN your character, your channel, all your songs, covers, streams, 3D model, and even your name "Kanata".

THEN they hold THAT hostage "do this or we take it all away" how do you not understand? take the cock out of your mouth for one second, i know it pumping cum down your throat makes you Mindbreak with pleasure, but you need to use your brain cells for two seconds.

>>27741684
>le evil idol culture
Die a violent death.

>>27741544
>>27741456
Fuck off, Kson said that Vshojo does everything for you and is perfect.
TELL ME WHY SHE DIDN'T QUIT AND JOIN VSHOJO IF SHE WAS FORCED. SHE HAS NOTHING TO LOSE ACCORDING TO KSON.

>>27741908
if you can't see that industry (i.e. the men behind the scenes, not the idols themselves) is riddled with pedos, exploiters, rapists, and a ton of other shady shit? idk what to tell you man, i wish i could live with my head that far up my ass.

>>27741684
>bro you know nothing about japanese laws,
And you do?
Pic of your law degree from a japanese university you dumb fucking asshole.

>>27741684
>>27742018
I hope you suffer a lot before dying for actually posting and believing this.

>>27742018
Thanks for confirming that you're some vhoejo tourist that knows nothing about hololive and takes the joke that
>we're an idol company!
more seriously than the tards on here lmao

I don't see the problem.
kson will be in vshojo. She will at some point no doubt have offcollabs with vshojos or vshojo-related people including men, ecelebs and whatnot. Or people working for vshojo will be at her place.

That's just not going to work with Kanata there, it's a huge security risk and doxxing threat.
kson seems upset that Kanata stuck with Hololive instead of following her though. Too bad, she's not a pet.

>>27742013
bro, no one said VShojo is absolutely better than hololive in every single conceivable way. Hololive has a way more established pipeline and connections in the japanese idol industry, including songwriters, musicians, arenas and theaters, and just has more experience in the field.
besides all that she ALREADY has an audience who knows her and likes her music and goes to her concerts. she would literally have to abandon everything and start again.

rebranding is already a HUGE gamble even if you werent changing your name, face, company, and throwing out your whole back catalogue. so doing it WITH all those attached? it's so incredibly risky.

>>27742038
>you can't know the general idea of laws if you didnt go do law school.
please graduate from 5th grade before you speak again

>>27742018
>if you can't see that industry (i.e. the men behind the scenes, not the idols themselves) is riddled with pedos, exploiters, rapists, and a ton of other shady shit
I really don't fucking care. The device you're posting on was made by child slaves paid in grains of rice, sold by a corporation that is likely owned by someone who uses his money to coerce women to fuck him.

>>27742252
she literally has pointed not ONE single statement at Kanata other than to say she will remain friends.

literally the whole point of her post is that corporations will do what corporations do: ruin people's fun and lives

>>27740906
Just quit then why isn't she doing this if cover is so evil? Kson is just a selfish motherfucking cunt and thought only about herself and her fat disgusting asses and the boomerang return fucked her friend and her.

>>27742371
you don't have to care to know it's true. your arguement makes no sense
>i don't care, thefore i can say it's not real
just shut up then

>>27742422
No, SHE is the one that ruined it by going back on her word and joining Vshojo, and now can't accept that her actions have consequences

>>27742422
>Joins a corporation anyways even though she said she never would
Guess she's retarded.

>>27742422
>literally the whole point of her post is that corporations will do what corporations do: ruin people's fun and lives
Which they aren't doing in this case - even if this came from Cover it's in her best interest. She wouldn't want to get doxxed by random vshojo people either.
Blame kson for joining vshojo, not Cover for protecting her from that.

>>27742487
No, I don't care, so it's utterly irrelevant. Your moral grandstanding only works if the audience cares. It doesn't, so it doesn't. This little crusade where you pretend to be exposing the insidious underbelly of the idol industry is utterly ineffectual.

>>27742454
>Just quit then
talk to one japanese person, ask them if they think 'just quit then' would be the right move. i know you ameribrained and eurobrained corpocucks think that quitting solves everything, but in other places it's a lot more serious

>>27742252
It probably is for the best for both sides but kson is valid in her venting that this is the cold reality of a world we are living in that is forcing two friends apart due to corporate culture. I can imagine both Kanata and Kson are not pleased with each separately finding and moving to a new place after barely getting settled into this current one.

This is beyond sad. I hope both of them eventually heal.

>>27742642
maybe she should have thought of that before making dumbass choices

>>27742583
>SHE JUST CAN'T BECAUSE OF HER GENES OK?

>>27742542
they meet vtubers from other companies all the fucking time. are you high right now? it literally happens all the fucking time. it would be nearly impossible to find a holomem who hasn't met face to face with at least 5 indies or competing-corp tubers. the fact is, 90% of them were part of the same industry and community for over a decade and knew eachother from before vtubing was even invented.

>>27742786
Any of those meetings happened in their fucking house?

>>27742705
>maybe she should have thought of that before making dumbass choices

Sure is alot of judgmental preachy faggots in this thread, sure all of you have done things that you regretted later on.

>>27742894
sure have
I don't go crying about it to my thousands of fans when things don't go exactly as I wanted and then post baseless claims that the only reason things didn't work out is because of third party meddling

>>27742751
your ability to pull out buzzwords and talking points without any substance or meaning attached to them in a cruel mockery of the english language is frankly astonishing.
the motzart of "trying to sound important without saying anything of worth"

culture & society != genes. i know your ziegheil mentality probably makes you THINK culture is genetic, but i hate to break it to you, it's not. but there's a klub you can join, you just have to shave your head.

>>27742884
what? yes, they have done off collabs with people outside of hololive. the only thing that's changed here is Kson is ex-holo and joined somewhere else. this has nothing to do with any valid concern. Kson was already collabing with indies for the past year and could have (and honestly already MAY have) had some of them over the house.
did that SUDDENLY change because she's in Vshojo? no. bullshit. stop guzzling corporate cum. they don't have your, or the talent's, best interest in their mind

>>27742894
Regret? Kson is going full ahead with whatever she does and I don't see that as regretting.

>>27742994
>He pulled out a dictionary to make himself look smart after blaming others of using buzzwords
Had to double check if I didn't end up on reddit accidentally. Jesus tatsukeks these days are cringe.

>>27743327
>>27742751
Amelia would be disappointed in you.

>>27742786
None of them were vshojo garbage though

>>27743186
Cover could turn a blind eye to Kson as long as she was ex-employee with NDA.
Now she's in a rival company and independent. The situation has massively changed.
And yet to be fair, such changes may not be the reasons why they had to move apart. It could always be some other things.

>>27743327
>thinking a dictionary would be required to have over a 3rd grade vocabulary
the absolute state of american education

>>27743387
Cry more, vshojo shill.

>>27737184
Yeah she's disgusting

>>27743327
>that's dictionary diving level English to him

>>27740906
*slurp*

>>27743294
She will regret it the next time she wakes up in the middle of the night with her face paralyzed and there is no angel around to save her

>ksonkeks think cover is LE EVIL MEGACORP
KEK

>>27735415
blame Vshojos marketing thing for making this into a secret because they wanted a grand reveal during AX. Apparently kson herself didn't trust Kanata to keep it a secret kek or she was under NDA... with Vshojo

>>27743923
corporations are not your friends, they arent friends to the people who work for them, they exist only to extract as much money for as little investment as possible.
the talent they have assembled is absolutely mind blowing. but you can't really think they exist to make the world a better place do you? i wish i could live in your world...

>>27744166
you mean just like vshojo?

>>27737329
Please understand Vshojo management didn't want Cover to learn about it before AX so they wouldn't have a chance to react.

>>27735415
>but cover CANNOT by law, force kanata to move
lol, how simpleminded. sure they can't literally force her at gunpoint to move. but they CAN hold her entire career as "Kanata", her channel, her youtube, all her branding, all her money invested in songs, and everything else they OWN, and use THAT as leverage.
They CAN fire her for not moving. Japanese judges (and even public) opinion usually sides with corporations because they have brain fucked their society into wage-cuck mentality for generations.

>>27744166
You are just a retarded doomer. Corporations aren't your friends, but this is a talent agency they NEED the talents you stupid fuck, they need good image and pr over other companies, a talent agency needs the wellbeing of their talents.
Apparently still kanata prefers this evil enslavement to the magnificent FURIDOM vshoujo tho?
You are the kind of retard to see everything in black and white, you are the living proof of the grey fallacy. All companies are satanic baby eaters for you.

what is this drama even about? why can't you fuckers be normal?

>>27744308
>YoU MeAn LiKe VsHoJo

yes. if they do shit like this it's also bad, i don't support VShojo as a brand OVER any of their talent. GUNRUN can suck a fat dick for all i care. even the whores have more of my support than the corporation.

>>27744369
I remember when Cover corp wronged Luna by erasing her from the boards, or when Lamy's old manager over stepped into controlling her and other holomen rapidly voiced it or called them out.
Apparently you are just here for the drama.

>>27737909
Yea also people forget that it's very possible that other members have also a problem with Rushia because she's talking with some of the biggest dramafags in Japan so it wasn't a pressure from the management alone.

>>27744476
it's about Kanata choosing what she wants over what Coco wants and retards getting mad about her not trashing her literal dream career over nothing

>>27744602
it's just a woman moving house. what did you fuckers make 300 posts for?

>>27744481
Good to see there are still reasonable people around then.

>>27744663
Coco fans are mentally ill, that's why this is happening

>>27744424
I mean this is literally me: >>27742305
I agree that she made the right choice, the point is Cover didn't need to do this. It's a pointless over-reaction to the announcement. I'm not saying moving to VShojo would have been better for kanata, but cover doing this is absolutely another case of them fucking up by being a corporation, just like when they didnt do more to stand up for coco, just like when they dropped rushia like she was nothing, just like they left aloe to twist in the wind, just like they let mel get stalked for months, just like they let FBK get zhanged, TWICE NO LESS.
they protect the corporation at the expense of their talents constantly, not sure why people here pretend that's not the case. support your oshi's not their boss? idk why that's so hard to understand.

>>27744663
>only 300
Look at the rest of the board.

>>27744714
>reasonable
300+ post about a woman moving house. you're a blight of this hobby. fuck these whores and their stupid dramas

>>27744809
Yeah but she clearly did it because her company told her to and my proof is the fact that I hate that company and all the voices in my head agree with me

>>27742583
Moot and retarded point when coco quit because cover bad fucktard. Now why can't tenshi just walk away from le ebil bod cover corpo?

>>27744602
only morons are talking about that, anyone with two braincells see that coco supports kanatas decision, but condemns CoverCorp for MAKING her choose. it's literally pointless to make her move. it's a power-play and a transparent one at that. they didn't do this when coco was collabing with rando indies, they didnt do this when other holomems regularly off-collab with non-holos, or go out with them for lunch, or go out with them to parks.
no, the only thing that is different here is it's Kson, nothing else. it's vindictive.

people move house all the time
people change company all the time
these're all the things normal people do
but /vt/ has to go full retard and make drama out of something normal because you have nothing else going on in your life

>>27740634
But Kanata is not planning to stop being friends with Kson or even talking about her on stream so this statement doesn't really make too much sense, assuming it's about Kanata moving out rather than something else.

>>27745031
>anyone with two braincells blindly agrees with my schizo narrative about da big bad Cover

>>27744910
>live together 2 years
>vshojo announced
>emergency meeting the next day
>moving out announced less than a week later
>kson posts that corporations shouldnt use their talent's career's as leverage to make them do things they dont want to, and that they will remain friends because they can't stop them

yeah man, totally normal set of circumstances , no reason to think otherwise, just wipe yagoo's cum off your lips and move on

>>27741896
and how do they hold over fanbase?

>>27745222
thank you for the backup voice #668462

how do i remove an entire board?

>>27745222
>Bro cover litteraly put a gun on pptenshi head and made her move out from her place

Source dude trust me and my voice in the head

>>27739169
she might be talking about something else for all we know, this shit is vague. No wonder Cover doesn't trust Yabaison btw if she keeps creating drama for them.

>>27744768
I don't even know what to say because you are such a pretentious fuck that you are completely ignoring the fact Kanata said she would keep talking about friend C, and we have kson saying they have to pretend to not be friends just because it fits your narrative.
Why is kson lying?
>they didnt do more to stand up for coco
They dropped the whole chinese market and a dozen talents only for her.
>they dropped rushia like she was nothing
They fired her for a NDA breach that she has herself admitted, she was her biggest cash cow retard. I bet you dont even know what DNA is.
> they left aloe to twist in the wind
Aloe resigned despite cover trying her to not to, but I guess you would need to pay attention to her fanbox to know.
> like they let mel get stalked for months
Dealt with, but not gonna defend it since it was a clear fuck up, still somehow mel decided to stay in hololive?
> they let FBK get zhanged
They got fucking youtube to implement special masures only for coco and fubuki spam

you have no idea what you are talking about aren't you mister whiteknight? Fuck you for making me defend a corpo but faults where they are due and when they are due.

>>27745313
step 1: buy a rope

>>27740970
Better yet explain why Kanatan covered for COVER if she was also outraged by it and they actually "forced her to move" against her will, it's not like holomem would never criticize the company...

>>27745268
not everyone knows their alt accounts, not everyone is going to find their new persona's, even if they do you get people claiming that "Kson changed, she does gross out humor now, ew" when she literally talked about wanting to listen to a guys balls with a stethoscope like right off the bat, and would do vag-shaving streams.
like i said, even if you DON'T change that much stuff, regular YouTubers who use their actual face and voice have rebranded in the past to disastrous results. Simply even changing your youtube channel's name can ruin your growth. can you not see that changing your name, removing all traces of your past, changing your "face" and moving to a different company would ALSO have a major effect? why is kson not over coco in subs? why is mikeneko not over rushia? "NO BUT THIS TIME IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT!" no, no it would not. people here would make up reasons why kanata is suddenly a bitch or a traitor or a whore. normies wouldnt even know she has another channel. no one wants it.

>>27745313
Close your tab see you in 2 hours

>>27745582
Because she is japanese she just cant QUITING YOUR JOB IS BIG DEAL OKAY DISREGARD KSON DOING IT OKAY CORPO CHUD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS35Hj8u4dM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAyG4r2xJWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP_vg8gg5hs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR3uvWCeMY0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6gPRoNb65U

>>27745874
one day, pretty soon at this rate, hololive will implode. they will live and stream together. it's rapidly approaching, but im glad kanata gets to live her idol dreams in the mean time. see you in the future KanaCoco chads o7

>>27746040
You've been saying the same shit for 2 years already.

>>27734645
monday was valentine's day too

>>27741456
>More like they gave her a strict set of guidelines she has to adhere to in order to not violate her NDA, which aren't realistic for someone living with a rival company's employee who will likely have other employees over at their house.
I think this is probably the most likely explanation.

If I had to guess, this is probably a response to Mikeneko joining the same company as Kson. There must be a high-ranking Cover staff member who really, really hates Rushia because this feels like retaliation of some kind.
It's probably the same staff member that doubled down on their accusations against Mikeneko after she clarified that she didn't leak anything other than a conversation between her and her manager in order to clear her name.
Cover told her they weren't going to issue a new statement, but then issued one anyways and said that Mikeneko was lying by insisting that she deliberately leaked company secrets that damaged the company and it's talents without ever going into anything more specific.

fuck retarded ships. kanata is enjoyable because of her solo streams interacting with chat and her godly tsukkomi skill with actual friends anyway. now kanata will continue to grow and betrayers will rot.
>>27745874
>all dumb translated clips which purpose is to clickbait retards
>>27746040
https://youtu.be/g0azqbwJWks?t=3983
lmao kanata already rejected coco like 6 months ago

>>27741896
NTA, but Japan has some of the strictest labor laws in the world due to their tradition of permanent employment. As a company, you can't just fire someone for no reason or because you don't like them or the people they hang out with. That's why shit like oidashibeya (banishment room) happens, but nowadays that isn't really allowed anymore either.
Also, you and I nor anyone else here would even know who Kson or Kanata was without a company like COVER giving them the oppurtunity to become famous. You say that you hate corpos, but I would gladly take 50% of millions of dollars over 100% of thousands.

>>27740906
Let me assume you are right.
Cover is based for cracking down on their talents interacting with traitors and whores