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>>27610426That's the catchThese 3 are not allowed to be near each other otherwise the sheer number they generated with break the universe
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>>27610495last week in july is not happening its already too late for that
>>27610513If they refused to move then why the fuck do their schizos keep moving here?
Will the JP members end their streams?
>>27610715no
>>27610577UWAAAAAHHHHH SEGGGGGGGGS!>>27610321>>27610481Peak autism, Choco-sensei Aki or Koyori can't compare...
>>27610672Schizo don't care, they move constantly to maximize the number of (You)
Miko has been tilting against fighting the same boss for 2 hours in the middle of the night.Why is she doing this to herself? She has a 1.5M stream countdown/endurance tomorrow and she has Ben at 1.49M for a good week or two for god's sake. She's not gonna be up when she hit the number....Why the fuck did she even stream Elden Ring at 23JST? She already streamed HoloCure at a much better slot earlier
>>27610672Because the fuckers kept linking /#/ in hlg and (You) keep feeding them (You)s by biting the lowest of low-hanging bait.
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>60,216: Pekora (Hololive)>51,071: Salome (Nijisanji)>46,066: Subaru (Hololive)>35,980: Miko (Hololive)>32,726: Gura (Hololive)>23,511: Noel (Hololive)>21,104: Fubuki (Hololive)>19,264: Miko (Hololive)>17,118: Shion (Hololive)>15,122: Chihiro (Nijisanji)>15,062: Kobo (Hololive)>15,057: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>13,699: Kobo (Hololive)>13,422: Tamaki (NoriPro)>12,884: Laplus (Hololive)>12,677: Gatchman (Indie)>12,514: Nose (VSPO)>11,015: Koyori (Hololive)>10,718: Nene (Hololive)>10,256: Choco (Hololive)>10,226: Okayu (Hololive)Another very stacked day with 50k not being high enough even for silver.
>>27610787My bum bum Cha I KNEEL!Good luck for tomorrow as well, 50k on a dual POV Collab shouldn't be a problem for you!
oh nyo
>>27610759because behind every smile, there's a shadow. She hates herself.
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*Here it goes>32,780: Gura (Hololive)>9,086: Vox (Nijisanji)>8,362: Baelz (Hololive)>8,294: Vox (Nijisanji)>7,848: Mysta (Nijisanji)>6,835: Mysta (Nijisanji)>6,331: Ike (Nijisanji)>5,091: Alban (Nijisanji)>5,068: Luca (Nijisanji)
>>27610787Nose!
>>27610787One funny thing about Pekora is that her base model is one of the lewdest of all of Hololive, being a bunny girl and everything and, yet, her audience doesn't see her that way
>>27610779>implying they need anyone to bite the baitsamefagging works quite as well if you know what theyre objectives are
>>27610826I mean, Summer + DQ Gambling (HYPER REVENGE EDITION), will do well, likely candidate for gold.
>>27610513>Of course /hlg/ refuse to moveActually not true, /hlg/ even made first post here. But then they noticed that Niji thread is still there and there were like, wait are they not coming us, and then bounced back to /jp/ refusing to move without Niji thread.
Nijisanji should focus more on the vtubing tech market rather than the actual talents themselves. That may be their chance to increase their stock price. Being a mere talent agency won't save them. I just don't get the IPO, do they have a patent that can literally make them billions? Or they plan to monopolize the vtuber market (they wont)? I can't wrap my head around how will it be a good investment.
>>27610857>32,780: Gura (Hololive)>9,086: Vox (Nijisanji)what's even the point?
>>27610513Wasn't that because shark meido shitting up /qa/?>>27610672The schizos there probably came from /here/
>>27610759She's planning to funnel to Kiara anon. She said she was only streaming for 2 hours earlier. Kiara fucked up so she's streamiy until it starts.Reminds me when 4th gen was still on their debut weeks
>>27610881tl:dr, it's all the nijimeido's fault
Another 50k views and this will reach 300k. Last year Gura also had a couple of sub 300k vods so 1 or 2 isn't really surprising. Zatsus don't have much replay value anyway.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_skfzMMyso
>>27610873Sigh yea. I've said it multiple times, but the board could use THREAD IDs (and thread IDs ONLY! We don't need more than that)
What does Nijisanji have for tomorrow anyway?
>>27610903no hlg was already a den of schizos even before /vt/ was created and these days it's pretty much just all schizos
>>27610904Raid her Miko, do it
>>27610787
>>27610787>15,062: Kobo (Hololive)>15,057: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>>27610916Close. Niji and chumbud meido fault.
>>27610857>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)5. Gura (Hololive) - 20,406 (Chatting stream)6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 5Nijisanji - 1Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER2x: Mumei, Gura1x: Ina, Luca>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Mumei: 13Gura: 10Vox: 7Ina: 6Luca: 5Kiara: 4Shu: 3Uki: 3Mysta: 1IRyS: 1Baelz: 1
>>27610870She is incapable of being lewdThe Valentine ASMR with Noel was literally just Noel teaching her to ASMR instead of actually doing it. It was endearing in a way
12k waiting, im scared sis
>>27610787the sad thing is not that Salami lost, it's that nijisanji doesnt have ANYTHING to keep up the pace with everything hololive
>>27610889>Nijisanji should focus more on the vtubing tech marketAnon, Crypton got the jump on them by some 10 years or so.
>>27610931>THREAD IDsdidnt work on /b/ those only work on slow boards
>>27610959INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING
>>27610787>Kobo sandwiches King
>>27610881/jp/ has nijimeido. The retard prunes 400+ post threads just for the fun of it.
>>27610787>>15,122: Chihiro (Nijisanji)>>15,057: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)womanjisanji inclining
>>27610935Salome and (maybe) Mayu, the usual
>>27610787>JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus>PER COMPANY4x: Hololive1x: Indie, Nijisanji>PER STREAMER1x: AZKi, Mayuzumi, Miko, Pekora, Subaru, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY122x: Hololive54x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER19x: Pekora16x: Aqua15x: Salome13x: Miko12x: Kuzuha9x: Subaru6x: Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Okayu2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mori, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
Please go above 40k Kiara, I BELIEVE
>>27610787Honestly, I don't even know why there are fans saying what yagoo should do in the event of rising competition. The answer is they just don't. If they did, we would've seen EN and ID stream daily or the fact they would debut gens every 8 months instead of a year. Even without it, they're still mogging Nijisanji and VShojo. Like HoloJP had plenty of 5k+ streams today in comparison to NijiJP.
>>27611032It worked for /pol/
>>27610959>LoL
Predicting a 15k waiting room, rapid incline to 26k, slow incline to 32k. If the concert goes on long enough, add in an extra 3-4k. Final ccv ~36k
>>27610744You... Really believe the rrat arent you anon?Different voice and etc... At first you said she was former valo pro, and then wildrift former pro, whats next? Former zoo keeper?Go back to your discord anon
>>27610870Same thing with Ina. With the right VA behind it that model could be incredibly lewd.
>>27611086>It worked for /pol/lel you wish
>>27611021They only have Salome to beat Hololive consistently and if she fail then they have nothing left
>>27611032It'd help mostly for smaller splits. I know it'd do jack shit for /hlgg/, but that place moves so fast nothing can save it anyways.
>>27610787UooooH my wabbit
>>27610787NijiEN doko
>>27610787>>27610787
>>27610787Lapu with the assisst
>>27611021Pic related is now more accurate than ever
>>27610959Don't do this with the fallen King, Kuzuha deserve respect, he was always a fair player.
>>27611086>It worked for /pol/Nigga what? It didnt change shit in /pol/
Kobo going to stream over Mommy Kiwawa's 3d live? Fucking based
>>27611021They never have, at least not for the last 2 years.
>>27611124But it did, and national flags worked for /sp/.In both cases it curbed massive samefagging and falseflagging.It didn't fixed the boards to because they're still cesspools but some symptoms at least
>>27610904If she gave a shit about Kiara, why didn't she call her in on her birthday Totsu?
>>27611113Dunno, but the one the doxxfags posted is cute.
>>27610959>Finally Pekora stopped topping him>Get topped by Kobo, another blue woman insteadSome things never change
>>27611141nah, they can unperson one of their older talents and force pre-graduation streams
>>27611202See >>27611222, come on, before the retarded mods reintroduced meme flags, it made it almost impossible to false flag on that board.Didn't make it any better but at least samefagging and false flagging was curbed
15k waitingIt'll keep rising over time but how high it'll get I'm not sure. Anywhere from 35k-50k
>>27611141Graduation streams can beat hololive though.
>>27611109Only mori retweeted this 3D live lmao
>>27611191>Fair player>Has tournaments blatantly rigged in his favor so he always places well despite being a barely average player>Is always invited to these tournaments despite not being a good playerFair my ass
>>27611229Miko's not feeling well yesterday
Kek JP holos still holds like 40k during the 3d live.
>>27611290I doni't know, if Holos debut one of a gen in the same day
>15k waitingMight hit 40k
>>27611276>it made it almost impossible to false flag on that boardlel proxies
Another day, another suspicious looking graph from Salome. Good job, Riku. It's not obvious at all. Mayuzumi's cross chatter/tourists should be there at the least.
>>27611290If they graduate one of their talents every day then they could win the year
Speaking of nijimeidos, I think he just woke up
>>27611120Takos definitely know
I can see Kiara having a menhera break down over all the Holos overlapping her right now.
>>27611299True, which is why I don't expect anything crazy like 50k+. But a lot of JP girls called in yesterday, this has been advertised for a few days, and good clips of Kiara's interactions have been floating about. The word is out, it's a matter of Kiara to capitalize on it
Kek is Miko actually going to overlap this 3D the whole way through?
Another 1 hour delayKiara...
>>27611310Kuzuha is a good player but deliberately do not play rank games to lower his points.
>>27611168she's just like me fr fr
>>27611354>win the yearHololive needs less than 70 golds to win the year
Oh boy, 2 AM! TIme to watch the prerecorded concert.
>>27611339proxies don't work in generals anon, it's fucking obvious when that's happening with board ids
>>27611396KIARA GONNA DELAY UNTIL MORNING IN JP LMAO
>>27611353You would think that there would be more crossover with Debi's fanbase considering........well.....ya know.
20k waiting room get
>>27610744草
>>27611222>But it did, and national flags worked for /sp/.What are you talking about? Even with national flags people can still shitpost and samefag due to proxies
Aaaaaaaand with that extra hour delay, I doubt Kiara's breaking 35k anymore. Maybe 30k is a better estimate. Really rough
>>27610787>>27611301
IT'S HAPPENING
21k final waiting room
>>27611310You're really saying this after Aqua embarrased herself?
>>27611353this is suspicious?
SC earnings before stream start
21k just before it startedNow let's see who's going to end their streams
>>27611251Omfg... Too bad anon. Its not her. Thats been debunked by ID fbI literally baka rnGo back to your doxxsite if you wanna spread rrat fucker
>>27610920Yeah this stream had good ccv but it doesn't seem like Gura's big audience wants to watch zatsus that much. Then again most holos don't get good views on zatsu vs game
>>27611433>proxies don't work in generals anonsure they do they still work in syria ukraine and even donald trump generals in pol
>>27611354Realistically only their top 20 maybe 30 talents could win a moderately active day with a graduation. None of the IDs, Chinese, or KRs could. Only the 5 Luxiem could *maybe* win one out of the ENs. THey could win 2 months if they sacrificed their entire company, maybe 3-4 if they stretched it out strategically.
FINAL CALLFINAL PREDICTIONSPost here what you think will be the peak of Kiara's 3D stream.Winner gets a bundle of Pekora's hair stolen by the chicken.
>>27610787Kobo must be such a fucking renaissance for ID numberfags. A legit top-tier vtuber.
>>27611251I like the previous kaela more
>>27611580I know they would never do that but at the same time I can also see Niji trying to pull mass graduation to cut out the shitters or something
>>27611441Debi's "fanbase" is incredibly small. But I bet if you look at her streams Salome fans are an enormous part of it.
>>27611541Well, Z into 50k and kept staying at that exact amount no matter what happened in the stream, a bit sussy wussy if you want to know.
>>2761164850k
>>2761164830k
>>27610881The remains of /hlg/ that didn't move back to /jp/ is still on this board as the ホロライブ thread but it's very slow.
>>2761164825k max
>>27610989>pointsWtf is this, will nijiniggers ever stop changing the cripple tally rules to give themselves a hope
>>2761164838k, potentially 40k
>>27611541Compare it to other 50k+ one hour streams, there should always be significant cross viewers from other vtubers. If not, most of the chats in her stream are only from Salome-only viewers. Mayu's graduation announcement should've picked up a lot of tourists, neither she or mayu's stream yesterday showed any significant cross viewers.
>>27611648look like 40k.
>>2761164840K
Do any JP concerts have these waiting periods before the start? I can't remember, I feel like they usually start immediately
>>2761164835k
>>27610857I hope the rest of the field enjoyed the 2 week break Gura so graciously granted them.
>>2761164840-50k rangeGura got 60k, that is a safe bet
Time to sleep
>>2761164828k>>27610787
>>2761164835k but not 40k
>>2761164835k topsI'll kneel to Kiara forever if she gets gold
>>2761164840K and I'll bet my balls on it
>>27611817wtf is that chest area
>Kiara: fuck it, we'll fix it in post
>>2761164835k. Kiara's ceiling is fucked from all the filtering she's done and this timezone is ass.
>>2761164830k range, shit timeslot
>>2761164830k-35k
>directors cut bdDamn chimkin could you broadcast that this is a prerecorded stream harder. Should we even count it? Isn't this a premiere?
>>27611785Some of them yes, usually the live live one.
>Miko still streamingLMAOOOOOO
All of this is proving how hard it is for EN to do 3D stuff. From what Gura had to deal with to the Kiara stuff. I really respect them for doing it either way. They could easily just do some boring birthday chatting stream and collect a big birthday paycheck but instead to work hard to make this happen despite the scuff.
>>27611353Isn't that 20% Hololive a lot?
>>27611874Boobs too big, unironically
>singing right out the batrip numbers lmao sorry chiara
>NOTHING PERSONEL, KIARA-CHAN
>>27611927>Entire off colab was because Kiara was recording>Somehow suprised it is not liveReally?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-Ajz4csVZcOh no, don't do this Kobo... not to your senpai...
Choco ended her stream for Kiara!!! MAX RESPECT SENSEI!!!
>>27612029Yeah cold open is baffling but I guess she was trying to help people who dont have time with the delay.
>>27611874Someone royally fucked up. Even if they were going for a proper 'braless' look, it looks off and instead looks like she has massive pecs.
Kiara is going to outperform guesses from the past few days. This is a 40k+ stream
>>27611953OH NO NO NO NO MIKO WHAT ARE YOU DOING ??????
>>27611986Uhhhh they all do that though? Or did you forget Kiara just do a birthday chatting stream yesterday?
>>27611021the only person on the internet I see streaming at hololive levels (30k+) regularly is XQC. I still don't see how this is Nijisanji's fault even if their merch is shit
>>2761164840k
>>27611986Triumph through adversity is what gives EN its kino.
>enter stream>chicken voice>leave a dislike and leave
>25k 3D Live Debut
>>27610787>>27611492
>Open chicken's stream>voice is shitEU bross, why is her voice so shit.
>>27612172based
She dances great, but I had to mute it because her voice genuinely is unbearable
>>27612154Bro, there's a lot of 30k+ streamers
>>27612172Thanks for reminding me, I'll do the same
>>27612154There's also the regional face-streamers (like the spaniards and their regional equiv, that stream exclusively to one language of poorfags who use streams as free entertainment)
>>27610787nijiEN doko
>>27612039she delayed an hour past the original time, no one is going to wait for her
>>27612129>>27611953Peko's lapdog? Pfft.
>>27611986>Disclaimer: This concert was recorded in a studio provided and built by Amelia Watson, this may not be the usual Hololive studio quality! But we tried our best!This is such a bad look lmao
>>27611927She hasn't made any effort to hide that it's prerecorded at all since she has talked about the process for weeks. I suppose it might filter some tourists to say that maybe.
It's the same shit as Gura birthday stream.When will Cover cares about EN.
>>27612260spanish twitch streamers who clearly bot don't count
HELP ME BROS..... HER VOICE ....
Damn this looks like shit, no wonder Cover is trying to stop them from doing it until JP opens up. Cover dont let Gura release her idol song until she is in JP in her idol costume pls....
>All that marketing and she won't beat the shark with zerooh no...
>>27612154anon are you sure you didn't mean 100k? Because 30k is not that uncommon, pretty much all the people that youtube poached from twitch are at that level
>>27612361When they can enter Japan
>>27612316>This is such a bad lookwhy?
>>2761164836+k
>>27611564Her silent laugh is cute.
>>2761164870k
>>27612188I just left a like and fucked off right away because Pekora of all people went to her totsu birthday party, but that's it.>>27610787>>27612192
>>27612361No need to. EN fan gonna eat this up anyway. Buts I admit, there's beauty in something the talents made themselves (except when it's Sankisei)
>>27612361What exactly do you want Yagoo to do? Only Commodore Perry can give EN a real 3d live
>>27612188Don't look at us dude, we don't watch her
>All the /hlgg/ antis have invaded here because they're being drowned out over thereSay hi to all the rejects, everyone
>>27611874>reproduce reference pic>add anime head
>>27610787where is the EN(CN) branch who is as successful as their JP senpais?
>>2761164835k-40k depending on how hard her voice will filter tourists
I cant watch, is it that bad?
>>27612260There's not 'a lot' dude. There's maybe a hundred of them in the world
>>27612525hewwo guraWave
>>27611986This is honestly better quality than I would have thought for a home studio, though it was probably brushed up in post.
>>27612560no
the edge lighting effect looks pretty suck, they should turn it off or reduce it.
>>27612560Yes..
>>27612525Huh? How sensitive are kiara fans if you see antis here
JESUS BITCH JUST CHANGE YOUR VOICEWHY THE FUCK DO YOU PERSIST WITH THIS SHIT?!
>>27612560The singing is absolutely terrible, but she is a great body performer so far
Anon, i was here when Aqua had her yab on Smash and people were cheering for it and calling her a whore, i was here when Miko was gone for 3 months and i saw countless posts hoping she dies, i was here when Coco cried on stream and people started shitposting and laughing, i was here when Pekora got her project canned, took 2 days off and fucking everyone wanted her to graduate, i was here every time Marine took a break and niggers were hoping she would never return, i was here when Kanata announced she wouldn’t be able to do weekly utawakus anymore because of her health and you people started saying she will graduate and hoping she goes deaf, if you want to pretend it’s just a few poster you are one dishonest piece of shit trying to salvage the unsalvagable, you’ve even cheered when posters from here wheelbarrows Roberu’s streams.Just accept who you are, pieces of shit that can’t wait for more bad things to happen so you can have your epic fun.
>>27612560It's quite good actually
>>27612560Good dance .... but shit voice
>>27612560for an indie? noCompared to holox's lives we got last month? LMAO this shit is soo bad
>>27612560It's Kiara, it's completely unwatchable because of her awful voice.
>>27612577Well, that is like twice as much as the number of Hololive member
Well now it's bad
>>27612560It's fine?It's ultimately Kiara. If you can't stand her voice, you already know how you'll handle things. Otherwise, just sit back and enjoy.
30k get
i dont really like the model but her dancing is something
>>27612597It is really impressive when you consider the obstacles in their way. I really think that once EN3 debuts they should pay Amelia as the full time EN tech person. She can still stream every once in a while if she wants to but she should really be in management in some capacity.
>>27612619>>27612624MOOT!!?
>>27612624>>27612619Now kiss>>27610787
Kiara is absolutely retarded, she has guests but didn't put them in the thumb. What a retard!
>>27612779That has to be a lie. There's no way 30k people have the will to tolerate her screeching voice
>>27612666this is not /hlg/, anon
>Only Choco endedJesus. Miko really surprises me. I thought she was unity prime.
>>27612695anon you saw how shitty Kson's 3d was, calling this indie tier is an insult
There are some members shilling it on Twitter
>>27612876kek
i'm kind of amazed there are actually 30k people around at this hour
>>27611353More like another day, another day of /#/ being unable to read. Judging by how Mayuzumi is below several Hololive members, Nari and Honhima, his graduation announcement (and any streams after that) didn't make it into the data collection period. That being said, here is the reverse. Mayuzumi's announcement overlap with Salome is not the highest. Looks like a lot of nijitourists fucked off from her streams.
Ok, Nene on, Jp talents are on the menu, hopefully someone that can bring some numbers even though it's late.
>>27612406Not even zero marketing, negative marketing trying to hide a concert as a normal Bday shill stream.
>>27612934Its a shitty timeIts on the same level as EU primetime
>>276126664 days instead of 2, stop making things up and watch streams, instead of just wasting your time reading the archives here.
>>27612909Well, all and all she was the person Pekora learned from
Global looks like an anti thread now>>27612438NTA but it's probably either (1) preemptively blaming Ame because shit is not as good as the usual JP's 3D or (2) blaming Cover for not providing their 3D studio>>27612560Better than kson's worse than holoX's
>Japanese word gameDoktor turn off my recline inhibitor
oh hey it's subbed
This is worse than 2D. It's a goddamn sin, Kiara should be ashamed
>>27612722it sirene voice compared to this https://youtu.be/08VnqfugDBM
>>27613010Stop with that shitty rrat 35tard, Miko was the one who learned everything from her.
Why the fuck did she decide on this time
>>27613065Hey literally one dude spending weeks making this, show some respect
>It won't reach 20k they say
>>27612666Wrong tab, anon
It's a shame this got delayed an hour, this is pretty close to a worse-case scenario timeslot
>>27613106Fuck off. Your oshi will never be as successful as Luxium, KFP
>>27613065>This is worse than 2D.No it's not you absolute retard. It is even better than the recent 3D slideshow from Nijis.
>>27612666It's almost like trolls will troll about anything huh? Welcome to the internet.
WHY EVEN DO THIS IN 3D?! WHAT'S THE POINT?! YOU FUCKING RETARDAND WHY DIDN'T YOU PUT YOUR GUETS?!FUCK
>>27612909>Kobo I guess fans take after their streamer
Chance to hit 40k or is it just fucked?
>>27613163I kneel Kiara
>>27611994Actually no, seems below average for Niji females.And the ones that are more friendly with Hololive like Hoshikawa get much higher.
>>27613163>TheyLiterally everyone predict 30k range. I personally give her the benefit of the doubt and say 40k
>>27613212nijiseethe
I feel kinda bad now. She clearly wanted the same experience the JPs get but Holox all got 100k plus for theirs. This is the epitome of a YWNBJ moment
>>27613256>5 of my posts made iti feel like a celebrity
Sorry you guys have to deal with the eggsI hope you get some really funny niji graphs to laugh at or whatever it is you do here
>>27613135Everyone suffers. JP and US can't watch, and EU has to watch to show any form of support when there's actually a "live" during EU hours.
If it's prerecorded and animated by hand by Kanauru why does it looks choppy
>>27613144He shouldn't have bothered. This isn't even better than nothing, it's a disgrace to the entire company
>>27613194Another way to look at this is a stress test for the absolute maximum audience that can be squeezed out of this time slot.
>>27613245Hmm 40k will be hard.
>>27613245it's stuck at 30k, I don't think it will
View gain rankings.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/g0LzbzPCMvU
>>27613234Just want to put that 3D to use I guess. And due to the circumstance she can only invite EN as guest and EN...you know
>>27613256there's alot of takeshis there huh?
Well it hit 30k so it already surpassed my estimate
>>27613292More like you should feel bad because she wanted an actual 3D and Cover dragged it on for months before telling her no. You work with what you got and for what it is, it's amazing
>>27613234Have you never seen a JP 3d live? They play games and stuff. Kiara is imitating a real one, I think it's charming.yeah listing out the guests might have been a good idea though
>>27613321Its not animated by hand. They recorded motion data, and he pretty much just had to apply it to a model and fix what issues he could
>>27613292Her fault for picking this retarded timeAny other prime time would have done better numbers
Still think 36k is the reasonable max ccv. POTENTIAL for 40k is there's another big surprise (like a full HoloEN song)
>>27613135Originally her time (1 hour before this) was meant to be so that EU, SEA and NA could all sort of watch it. Honest though, this compromised timeslot is by far one of the WORST timeslots for Hololive watchers and is really only 'good' for EU. It's way late for JP, TW and SEA, NA is at work/uni.
>>27613328The company have no hand in this though
>>27613245It's possible, especially if one or more of the girls recorded a duet with her at the studio. If there's too much of this...whatever it is with Nene, then no.
>>27610787>>27613311
>>27613245At this time? She's gonna be lucky to hit 35k
>>27613234How would this even be done? When JPs do 3Ds they have everyone there physically. They'd need to do separate recordings and then try to sync them up.
Time to stream spark.
nothing personal Kiara
>>27613433>Cover dragged it on for months before telling her noThis was probably because they waiting for Japan to open up.
>>27613065Nobody cares if you like it or not, they had to built this in a cave with their own resources, show some appreciation for their dedication because this could have just been a normal 2D karaoke stream with nothing going on. It's scuffed but Kiara took the hit of being the prototype member that could lead to a ton of improvement for 3D concerts for EN in the future and when your oshi goes in the same stage Kiara is in with better quality you better remember why that even happened in the first place
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY ARE YOU SUCH A RETARD
>>27613321Because he is a hack when actually hired to do a job. thats 0/2
>>27613498They shouldn't have let her do this. It's a black mark on their record to be associated with this abomination. They should have fucking fired this worthless bitch
>>27611301Dumb bunny trying to be sex makes me kek
>>27613382That's a lot of onions
>>27613218Why are you even giving that waste of space a single (You), he's obviously exaggerating or a tubro-anti that got chased out of global.
>>27613336>Absolute maximumYou can't do that test with Kiara. Kiara herself is a factor that limit the maximum number
>>27613245Well I fucking hope so I put my balls on the line
STREAM SPARKS
>>27613660It was a good pretext to post the webm
>>27612666What the fuck are you talking about? Stop gaslighting nijinigger. That didnt happen in any considerable number. Just focus on Kiara or Moris shit if you want epic fun
>Kiara anti ittBruh
I've just realized, was the singing part actually recorded while she was dancing?
Big man ting yeah, it's not looking good brev.... It's not looking good brev
>>27613433Blame the Japanese government and them dragging their feet on opening up the country again. I swear at this rate they're going to completely bankrupt the rest of whatever industries have managed to scrape by that rely on tourism.
Reminder to open the stream for only as long as it takes to leave a dislike so she sees how much you hate her, you don't want to actually watch that shit
>>27613433She was already living in Japan but chose to leave. She has to live with the consequences.
>>27612961>26/6What kind of bullshit are you playing at, retard? The newer streams was already updated to 3/7 now. Mayu's graduation announcement was on the 2nd. My picture is Salome's latest stream, and mayu's crossover is 4.9%. Mayu's recent 58k stream only has 13.3% of Salome's chatters and I could trust his stream better because all 3 male viewers are at the top.
The mocap looks pretty good, a thoroughly respectable effort
>>27613814Based, done and done
>>27613814reminder that pomu will never get 3D
nice 3d numbers mythkeks
>>27613835>Arguing over thisYou guys know this number mean nothing right? It's just an estimate at best because the fact remain that no every stream watcher chat
>>27613821>t.retard who doesn't understand the limitations on a travel visa
>>27613943ESLchama....
>>27613894Just a reminder that all of this was done by a scuffed setup by HoloMyth member AMELIA WATSON, and their lackey, Kanauwu
More guests!
>>27613821Travel more kid
>>27613914B-B-B-B-BUT THE SLOT SHE CHOSE! A-AND THE OVERLAPS! I-IF GURA ADVERTISED IT AS MUCH AS KIARA DID HERS WOULD'VE HIT 100K! A-AND DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE CULL!
Well it's better than the sankisei concert at least
>>27614110And the recording was done in 1 day.
>kiara stuck at 30k ccv>inclines to 33k ccvDESHI DESHI BASARA, BASARA
>>27614110Yeah yeah rightI am sick of teamate trying to p[rop up Ame every chance they got
Goddamn, Ina's movements are shit
>>27614159Still funny, kek.
>The SOVL mocap and scuffed singingIt's basically myth brand at this point I almost don't want them to get support.
That ame and ina dancing is proof this is not animated by hands lmao
Audio in this is way worse than Gura's live... I thought it was the chickens voice.
>>27614159nahit's a nice effort though
>>27614157seek help
>>27614159Anon, NO
The 3D is fine, better than some past official 3D lives evenAnd Kiara dancing never disappointsThe singing though... this is almost as bad as her karaokes. I would've thought she'd have tuned it up more after recording
Oh, this might've been the song Kiara was talking about. Kiara mentioned in one of her streams that there was 1 song out of the bunch that had a bit of scuffed audio and she hoped it wasn't too noticeable
>>27614159God don't even remind me. The fucking ship marine sang on was some 2 dollar asset shit off unity
>>27613648Thanks for your input, larper.
>>27614259just the fact taht this is free while the sankisei concert is paid already put this ahead
IS THAT HOLOCURE?
>>27614280Just saying it like it really is, mythfag.
>>27614159That's not a high bar
Here is one more webm, only an absolute retard would say this is "indie quality" after what happened with kson 3D debut
JUST CLOSED THE STREAM, I COULDN'T BEAR IT ANYMORE AAAAAAAAAAAAA
Kobo is even more fascinating to me now. She refused to play Holocure until they add Indonesian Holos as playable characters. And here despite the cute little mommy roleplay thing she has going with Kiara she still will not end her stream for her 3D debut. She merely acknowledged Kiaras birthday and kept playing. It's like she has a massive level if Indonesian pride and will not show any level of submission to EN or JP. I'm starting to see why she was able to draw an entirely new market of viewers
>>27614340if you didn't mention I honestly don't think I would've noticed
>>27614401wtf is this lol
>>27613913Reminder that we Pomudachi are the last true (corporate) unitybros and have always loved and respected Kiara. You are tremendously ignorant.
>>27614401kson isn't indie though.
>>27614340>she hoped it wasn't too noticeablewell...
>>27614230Myth still has underdog energy even after all this time, part of the appeal I guess
lol is this her way of seething at cover>Disclaimer: This concert was recorded in a studio provided and built by Amelia Watson, this may not be the usual Hololive studio quality! But we tried our best!
>>27614159DELET THIS!
I wanted to watch it but I missed the start so now I have to wait for it to finish
>>27614246It's not animated by hand. The movement data was all recorded using Ame's home studio, which was then sent to over to the bloke to put it all together.
>>27614327Anon, you realize the chicken voice is deliberate right? Her real voice is nicer, she goes out of her way to make it so grating. Same with song mixing
>>27614401Why the fuck is she dancing like this?Unironically like a dead chicken, imagine considering this and korone's in the same category kek
>>27614517>has the most subbed chuubas>underdog energy
>>27614551kek
>>27614551>227kek based
>>27614453She's really capturing a group of viewers that wouldn't watch her otherwise. Really proud of her incline, excited to see if she becomes a consistent 15k ccv streamer
>>27614504But she's with the TECH GODS that are Vshojo. They even live and breath TECH!
>>27614551>420lmao
>>27610787>>27614238
>>27614159kek
>>27614574People been begging her to stop using that voice and ruin her throat. Seem seeing the JP getting wrecked by throat problem didn't scare her
>>27614542That's the best failures like myth deserve, imagine shoving literal golden spoons down their throats only for them to fumble it like they did
>>27614551>only 4 of my post got indamn
>>27614401This is because this is not rendered live. I doubt you can get those shading and lighting effects without letting it render for at least twice the actual video length.
>>27613835>Mayuzumi has a lot of overlap with MayuzumiWow.Check Lize's Asobi Taizen stream from the same day. Less overlap with Mayuzumi than with fucking Ranunculus. Just because it says ~7/3 doesn't mean it actually processed all the streams. Next time you think something doesn't make sense try to understand how and why you are a fucking idiot before going all le epic Shalome noticer.
>Sings in JP>Numbers dropEvery time
>>27614221Its the rendering, they have the signature Alzheimer movement. This is why I hate them for relying too much on kanaruru or whatever his name was. Shit quality.
So, do you think Ame will rent the studio for NijiEN members?
>>27614574It's not just the chicken voiceIt's that it's still sometimes off key, which is something you can absolutely fix with post-processing
>>27614551>420KEK based JP bro
>>27614551> 227my brethren of cultured individual
I predict 36k peak if shark duet appears
>>27614453This is just the classic projecting negative traits on a holo because you have them. Seek help
Unironically cover should invest more on the EN branch 3d equipment and studio to salvage the branch. Too bad Jap companies are too risk averse.
>>27614752Yeah I dunno why most JP can't into dancing, even the most simple dance move that doesn't require too much energyMaybe they just don't have the time to be committed to it?
>>27614829congrats on the funniest post in this thread
>>2761486536k incline if there's another collab song, 40k if there's an EN ensemble. My prediction and I'm not taking meds
>nousagifags still posting shit lewds for some reasonKiara is on now faggots, we have more important things to discuss than your shitty whore
>>27614157For Gura yes she got 20k extra people just by viewers spreading the news that she was with 3D, maybe not 100k but 80k with a good marketing
>>27614829kek
>>27614829riku will just buy a studio for nijIEN.
I had to check if the stream is 1080p because it's blurry as fuck.
>>27614327You'd think with as much effort that's going into the dance choreography she would stop using hte debuff voice for at least one song to do justice to production. This 3D is a completely visual experience right now. I'm pretty sure even Noel is sounds more pleasant singing.
She's stalling at 34k. This is her wall, she will not pass 35k. Pathetic, what a tremendous failure. These are the worst numbers in Hololive
>>27614829Yes, she will also commision their 3D models
>>27610787Salokek killer
>>27614945If you want to discuss Kiara fuck off to /hlgg/I really mean it, they are discussing Kiara there
>>27614945too obvious
>>27614902they're are probably waiting to see how the whole economy is going to play out
>>27614829jokes on you they already have a good 3d studio in beijing
>>27614829it's 10 times easier to send them to a random studio in taiwan like chowa did
>>27615003Not just me then, I think they rushed the rendering and upscaled the stream probably 720p source.
>>27614945No, you fuck off. Your whore has bad numbers, she doesn't deserve to be acknowledged.
>>27614945>a Salomekek
>>27615019LUDWIG MOGGED
>>27614624It's impressive that they are as big as they are with how little attention Cover gives them. They just started getting in big company wide projects this year.
>>27614648>>27614453seek help
https://twitter.com/Professor_Lando/status/1544449247877013505?s=20&t=OfNZ7XBZOk_SwZout5l7_QWhat the fuck
>>27614945Not gonna stop just for you EN sharts. Your whores have shit numbers, you can still discuss about them in /hlgg/ though>>27610787
with this kiara stream, how do you guys think the mori concert numbers would be? obviosuly higher than this but interested to see some guesses, given we're two weeks away from the album
>>27610787Reminder that the rabbit isn't hot
>>27615146>Our inaCOMMIES
>>27611299https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1544730136767242240
>>27615138>Professor LandoWho?
>27614945>27615111STOP SAMEFAGGINGSTOP SHITTING THREADSBRING IDS
>>27615116He's culled. Kiara is certainly less popular than a streamer who can sometimes get 100k CCV for his big collabs
>>27615116LMAO that's actually kinda hilarious. Who'd win? The former face of Twitch, or one nasally fire bird?
>>27615174Already happened, reached ~70k iirc
>>27615122Well just a reminder that Cover never planned to give them much attention in the first place. They did not expect EN to blew up like they did
>>27615146>455of course she is honorary JP member. Impressive since she is korean.
>>27615174Probably higher since it'll be on JP's time. You mean the free portion right?
Feels great being a unitychad.https://twitter.com/pomurainpuff/status/1544735156405166080
>>27615199Based Tower
>>27611299Good, shit rendering anyway.
>>2761517425-30k
https://twitter.com/pomurainpuff/status/1544735156405166080Tribalfags in shambles
>>27613382Wait, Waktaverse is counted there?That's Isegye Idol's parent group.
>Saving Gura appearance for last so nobody closes streamKek. Very slimy and calculating on her part but also smart.
>>27610787>>27615187Her prisoner outfit is though.
>>27615138who?
Reminder
>>27610787As always.
>>27615279yea>>27615234I meant for the UMG stuff coming up.
>>27615288shut the fuck up pomu
WELLLLLLLLLL NUMBERFAGSSSSSSSS!?!?!?>CAN YOU HANDLE THESE HIP MOVEMENTS!?APOLOGIZE TO KIARA!
who the FUCK is this guy?
>>27615288>>27615314>management forbid her to link the stream or even mention kiara's namelmao
>>27615174you mean her paid concert?
>>27615174If Mori did her 3D concert today, it would have 15k CCV. Myth is in full recline, their numbers get worse every day
CHIARA
>>27615317They post Isegye shorts on that channel.
>>27614945EN is irrelevant here
>>27615367>implying thats her doing that
>>27614816You do understand I'm comparing big streams right or are you that stupid? Why would you even use Lize as an example, she doesn't even have a 40k+ streams in the past month.
>>27614574yeah, we can hear in her guest section how her tired-normal voice sounds.
>>27613127Don't try to reason with the 35shit newfag. He knows nothing about their past life.
>>27615199Towa... Your sleep schedule...
>>27615019So do you have to kill yourself now?
>>27615355Will there be a free portion? If there is, it'll probably be around where Watame's got imo.
>>27615330
>>27615358Just use your rm account and stop being fake ruru
>>27615358didn't even tag lmao
Ah, we're being raided, huh
>>27615344This will always be the most retarded post on this board when you realize that at that very same period, Aqua "mogged" Miko's 3D live that had less views than Aqua's stream and had 125k ccvBut keep shitposting I guess
>>27615358COME HOME POMU , EN3 ARE WAITING FOR YOU
>>27615435why do you do this every single time salome loses? get a life.
>>27615330I want to be her Who-den
>Reddit Duck on the streamI was loving the stream until the shitty Reddit Duck showed up.
Can she push for 40k? How's the trajectory?
>>27615437Given her history? Yes, actually. Especially if she's been practicing to get back into form.
>>27615358Romeo and Juliet of vtubing.
>>27615309>>27615408these are hysterically low im sorry guys>>27615392paid concert i know is gonna be huge since irl tickets are sold out im saying if she has like, a launch party stream and the free portion of the umg stuff. every song launch thus far had 10k viewers if i recall.
>>27615369That looks like a Kiara-colored takodachi, complete with Kiara's head accessories.
Cover is such a garbage companyCome home Kiara Nijien will not abandon you
>>27615555Miko is a leech, it's only right that Aqua shits on her in true popularity
>>27615656Highly unlikely unless she gets a massive boost from something like an all holo EN ensemble or a Calli + Kiara love duet
I'll never understand EN's slow incline on almost everything. You'd think most of the audience for a concert would be there at the start.
>>2761164835k at this rate
>>27615749She wont be able to follow kson
>>27615523what were watame's numbers?
>>27615749speaking of that, when is lazulight getting 3D?
>>27615779EN viewer are more spread out
Shame of EN vtubing..
>>27615755Lmao KFP
>>27615755Why do JPs like Kiara? She's so terrible
>>27615837After obsydias new outfits
>>27615616Reddit Duck ruins another stream. A tale as old as time.
>>27615755ignorance is bliss
> That fucking lightingyeah pretty obvious that it was edited by Kanaurulooks so different from other 3D stuff
>>27615779blame susan
Cleared 2M$ Yen
>>27615656Talking portions are a debuff for Kiara due to voice. 40k probably out of reach.
>>27615779we get it, you're used to viewers peaking in the first 15 minutes and bleeding out after that.
>>27615779People notice something is going on and come check it out.
>>27615858>fatYeah thats kson
>>27615876White girl fetish
She quickly hit 35k once Subaru and Reine appeared.
>>27615755>I want to listen to german songs
>>27615779EN can never access more than 20% of their audience from any timezone. Realistically it doesn't even matter that this is an awful timeslot, Kiara would never have gotten better numbers than this no matter what she did
>>27615755>740my people
>>27615856Almost 35k for the second least successfull EN member is ok.
>open global>ctrl+f coverKFP seething huh. Also there are misinformations about their 3D studio but I won't bother to correct them.>>27615899No fucking shit anon.
>>27615358Did she call in yesterday? Or did Riku forbid it?
>lazulight not getting 3D until Japan opens upLUL
>>27615881Reddit Duck ruins everything she touches.
Give it to me straight. Can IRyS 3D pull at least 50 - 60k?
>Shitty ID talent shows up>Numbers go downID is a mistake
>>2761603540-45k.
APOLOGIZE TO KIARA!>DOGEZA, NOW!
>>2761603570k
>>276160355k at most
>>27616035Given all the hype behind it? Absolutely, yes. Especially considering she's a solid vocalist
>>2761603570-80k
>>27615994>KFPthose are just globalfags, they are retarded like that.
>>27615876She want to be like the JP and actually try to follow the JP rule despite being EN
>>27616035if she does it in the right time, yeah
>>27616035Easily. She is more popular than Kiara outright and her getting ANYTHING (3D or outfit) has become a bit of a storyline unto itself.
>>27616035It'll be on Cover's studio so it's an official 3D. Probably 80k+
>>27616035yes
>>27615437>comedy
>>27615838https://holo.poi.cat/stream/P_ptI5iH7VgPeaked at 28,891. Due to how short these are there's probably not enough time to verify everyone because Youtube's pajeet-ass verification shit is slowAF at times, so in reality who knows what the numbers were.
>>27616114I WILL PLUNGE MY DICK SO DEEP INTO HER ASS WHOEVER PULLS IT OUT WILL BE CROWNED KING ARTHUR
>>27616035easily
>>27616035If AZKi can get 70k, then yes, if she can guarantee a JP event block and include Suisei as a guest
>>27616153>She is more popular than KiaraIs this what Irystocucks tell themselves? Your whore would get shit numbers too. EN is a dead branch
>>27614945We only love kobo here
>>27616009Luxiem will get it first.
>>27615935Nah, I never watch NijiEN. I'm thinking more of the JP lives, which while not Niji-tier instant to peak don't slow crawl for 30 minutes like this.
>>27616035She would be doing it in JP if she did. 70k minimum as IRyS is actually one of their own(hafu).
>>2761603545k. She needs a model update.
>>27616035Most likely Cover studio, JP prime time and the build up of waiting 3 years for her model, so I believe in the 80k
>>27610839TUMBLING DOWN
>>27616295Unironically this is very likely. The poor fucking NijiEN girls
>>27616347>3 yearsWhat?
>>27616035>Cover's studio>JP prime timeOf course she can get that much
>>27616035she will have Suzy in her stream so guaranteed success
>>27615876Because she's really good at THIS.also, they don't have the baggage of opinions we doalso, they're used to shrill singers.
>>27616282>WeKill youself
>>27616295And they rightfully should, the girls are failures and the branch is carried hard by luxiem
I think this is easily Kiara's best original song and it has a great MV but it's performing much worse than her previous ones. Then I found out that the song isn't linked anywhere on her youtube home page and you have to dig through the archives just to find it. Is the power of linking stuff on your home page that important?
>>2761603590k
>>27616035What's taking her 3D so long? A redesign like flare and nene?
>>27615615Getting killed en masse by her? Weird fetish.>>27610787
>>27616406Do you think her 3D is coming anytime soon?
>>27614830And she's singing off key yet again... *sigh*
>>27615122>>27615246desu it was to be expected with how popular hololive was during that era, covid unironically helped tonswhat's impressive how cover knew gura's roomate algorithm blessing would work for her hololive persona. plus the perfect design with the magic blue hair. wouldbe interesting to see if she was released alone instead of sharing her algorithm with her gen.
>>27615876It's your usual "our countryman bad, foreigner good" thing.
>>27616438>also, they're used to shrill singersBut those are real Japanese people. Kiara is a fucking white slut, she shouldn't be tolerated
>>27616472i think the algo also wasnt kind to it
>>27616472>Ease of access>Advertised just by being there YES. You really underestimate the effect that having something linked on the home page has on song growth.
>>27615468It was a 4 person collab with 22k peak with quite a bit of tourists. Its overlap with nijitourist centrals like Masaru, Salome and Ngo is higher than with Lize herself. Except for Mayuzumi. Just like Salome. Tell me how this stream got less overlap with Mayuzumi's gradution announcement than with fucking Yotsuha if Mayuzumi's data was processed, by all means.
>>27616486Nobody fucking knows, it's the pekora new outfit thing all over again
>>27610839Why is IPO a good thing again? In my country that shit is treated as the end of literally any startup and something everyone avoid if they can
>>27616486Nobody knows but that's a decent guess. Something is really fucked up behind the scenes.
>>27612909I'm longtime 35P and won't defend this.It's very unlike her.Either she's confused or something made her think it would be ok to do so.No way it's done out of malice.
>>27614829
>>27616504Is it weird that I like it? As much as I love the "perfect idol" facade, getting to hear how good she is without any autotune or post-production is pretty neat. Just makes her feel more authentic. If she sang this all live WHILE dancing, I'd be pretty impressed
>>27616577Wonder why she didn't add this one when all of her other songs are linked on there.
>>27616447>youself
>>27615358Fake /b/
Noel's singing is better than this shit
35k
>>27616617BASED NOUSAGICHAD
>>27615189I think it's Nenechi's joke that got adopted by 5ch
>>27616486Omega got fired and she have no manager/producer for now
>>27616227Mighty kek!>>27610787
>>27616504Both her and Nene have a pactThey MUST be Idols.So they have to sing live, while doing a lot of draining movement, instead of prerecording the singing and just focusing on the dancing.
>>27616486The best guess would be that.>>27616596Kek if you look at her mama's artbook, there are a lot of rejected designs for Pekora's new outfit.
>>27616598Because it means Riku is cashing out soon. The goal of starting a company is to make a profit out of it, if you aren't cashing out then your business is a failure
>>27616598Anon, multiple people in /#/ have already stated that same opinion and for the same reasons you likely have for that opinion.However, shareholders WANTED to go public, and Riku either was unable to convince them that it was a bad idea or was convinced that fighting them on the point wasn't worth the hassle, so going public they did.
>>27615390I will honestly kneel if she actually mentions who she's watching.
kek, look at this speed
>>27616871ACCELERATE
>>27616789Assuming, of course, that he wasn't one of the people pushing for an IPO
Chicken HATE
>>27615876gaijin wants to be JPit's cute
>>27616739The music itself is mediocre I'd rather have some life to it then K-pop style lip sync. All idol/pop music is shit its just rooting for the people behind it that makes it fun.
>>27615007>This 3D is a completely visual experience right nowJesus calm down kek. It's nice and very smooth for some movements but the legs/feet/hands look god awful regularly.
>>27616598Going public is a way to secure more funds for expansion/more projects. >treated as the end of literally any startupBecause at that moment people who only want profits will enter your company and can affect the decision making. In other words, the company will lose its SOVL.
>>27616909Head of Sankisei and HoloX dunking on the head of NijisanjiYou love to see it
>>27616707not even subbed to PekoI love Miko, but she shouldn't be streaming right now. Bad karma.
>>27616596>it's the pekora new outfit thing all over againExcept that Pekora herself was in charge of that thing.
>>27616035If it's JP time without overlap, I could see it happening.Idk how good her dancing skills are tho.
>>27616970It's at least something. Her voice though, you have to mute the fucking stream. There's just no way anyone is listening to this
>>27616871>Cover hate thread faster than NijiENSounds about right for what's happening
>>27616472The music and video aren't too bad, but the lyrics are horrible ESL garbage.
Kiara is guaranteed to have a menhera breakdown over this. From the scuff, to the delay, to the overlap, and the relatively low numbers especially compared to Mori's birthday live. It will probably be hidden behind a member's only stream but be prepared for the doom posters when it happens.
>>27617011>WINKS BACK
>>27616944Yea. The truth on THAT will be revealed once the lockout ends. If Riku ends up dumping more than the 1% stock he claimed he would, then he is 10000% jumping ship and Anycolor's future will be extremely grim.
Kanauru please
kek, couldn't even get shark and reaper to do a song?
This is hands down better than the NotVtuber ksun debut
ahhhhhhhhhhhh fuck I'm not used to this level of cringe fuck
>>27617223LOL
>>27617011ENs and IDs always stream over the main branch. Miko is teaching them a lesson
>>27617099She won't because at least she beat Gura's HoloCure
>>27617079>>27616871the migrate from NijiEN general
>Pomu didnt call in>Cant even mention Kiara's name in her tweetUgh i thought HoloEN was the one blocking? Why didnt she even mention Kiara's name?
>>27617051It’s pretty nice of Pekora to release all of her rejected outfit idea too, to kill all the rratsOne of the ideas was Pekora wearing an American highschool style jacket uniform. It was nice
>>27617160Riku is fucking incompetent and he needs to go. His departure will only strengthen the company.
>>27610787>>27610959DOES blue hair affect numbers?have numberfags found the correlation?
>mememememehere it comes
>>27617335Don't kid yourself. This is worse than amateur, its an embarrassment
>>27617223
>>27617324Gura might have a song with her. Remember her saying she was in the mocap suit with them so either it'll be a song together after or maybe it was a recording for a future 3D who knows
>>27617445You hope and pray that if he goes, whoever replaces him doesn't run Anycolor into the ground maximizing profits.
>>27617533Seeethe about it
>>27617533Keep saying it enough and maybe you'll convince someone
So can someone explain why /#/ ends up being the refuge of schizos whenever they are driven out of some other place?
>>27617480Not that much, it was all a coincidence that the blue one attract people attention
>>27617568Riku is already doing that apparently, so no real difference?
>>27617426It was always obvious it was Niji's side blocking.
>>27617426Yeah, that is really bizarre. That makes it pretty clear that Niji is the one installing the roadblock between HoloEN and NijiEN.
>>27617534kek
>>27617443>this was rejected damn son
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus...I'm reminded again why I don't watch ENs
>>27617533This is hands down, better than any 3D debut apart from HoloX and those 2 Nijiguys that fought Kuzuha.
>>27617533Come on anon, in no way this is worse than kson's. Even totallyindievtubernotvshojomember had a better 3D debut than kson.
>>27617659Because that's the purpose of this thread
>>27617659People here are schizos too, it's hard to differentiate schizos from other schizos
>>27617426Anon, Ollie was able to collab with fucking GUNDOU but couldn't do her Selen collab.It was always NijiEN blocking it.
>>27617659It's usually the other way around, the have their origin here and migrate. Coming back like birds in the summers.
>>27617834yeah but the schizos we have are not the same as these schizos who usually infest global
>>27617659We accept all opinion here. If you shit on HoloEN in /hlgg/ you get dunked on, but if you do it here no one care because it is not numbers. You might even found someone who agree with you
>>27617659Numbers = Cheapest and laziest way to shitpostIt's not that hard
Miko shilled Kiara's live before she ended
>>27616617>ends stream right before the hourmaybe she did get the time confused
>>27617872Why though? You would think NijiEN would want the exposure. Are they really that afraid of offending China?
>>27617771Too much powerlevel
>>27617779This is proof that ENsharts are delusional pieces of shit. There's no one who could watch this and think it's anything other than an insult without being retarded
>>27617872Gundou is funny why is collabing with her a problem?
>>27617426This stupid narrative was broken the moment Ollie was blocked from collabing with Selen.
>>27617872Yea, when that happened it was pretty clear, but NijiEN shills will deflect and say it was totally HoloEN putting pressure on HoloID. Pffffft.
>>27617771Pekora hate showing her skin I guess. From Marine word, back when Sankisei were still regularly meeting, Pekora always wear long skirts
>>27617771Well can blame them Susan is still on the hunt, isn't that the reason why HoloSummer isn't a thing anymore
>>27617659it's a "neutral" thread you can do console war with out some faggot report you for off topic
>>27617947True unity
>>27617568Anon, Anykara is on a downward trend since Iwanaga left. Their unsuccessful ventures just proved how incompetent Riku is. His stupendous answers to that interview floating around here only sthrengthens that claim.
>>27618039It's not.It just showing that HoloID <--> NijiJP is fine.but HoloID <--> NijiEN is apparently not.Making it pretty obvious which side is doing the blocking.
>>27618039she is a cunt
>>27610920>>27611572Is there any replay value for a zatsu?I'm more surprised it actually hit 20k, I was lowballing for 15k consider that's 50% higher than most of her SC readings, and consider she never builds an zatsu audience
>>27617771>Unbraided Peko with tummyBros, I don't think the world was ready for this ...
>>27618039Aside from the legendary Sio herself, Gundou is the most hated vtuber in the world. It's baffling that a collab with her was ok but Niji blocked the Selen collab.
>>27618019Anon all of them immediately unfollowed kson after she joined vshojo and got the chinks all hot and bothered again, they absolutely are that afraid of offending china.Especially after the went public, Cover as a public company can tank being kicked out of china. If Anycolor got kicked out by china Riku might as well commit seppuku because there's no way thier share price is going to recover from that shock
>>27616590Again, you're arguing with a 22k stream with the assumption of it being tourist-heavy and in all honesty, it looks fine. The answer would be a difference in the audience between male and female since it's a whole female collab and all 4 brought their fanbases. But you're deflecting from the main argument, salome's cross viewers are just that suspicious every day. It didn't even have mayuzumi's tourist heavy chatters from the graduation stream in her stream. Both had 50k streams in the period, there should've been a higher percentage of niji or mayu chatters in salome's stream but didn't. Just look at her past stream, which liver's fanbase ever got 20% and above?
>>27618019NijiEN didn't even have a significant presence there until Luxiem ruined literally everything, so it was reasonable to think it was HoloEN management not wanting to let anyone leech from their golden goose
>>27618019NijiEN is beholden to chinks.
>>27618055>Pekora hate showing her skin I guess>used swimsuit fan arts several times for her thumbnail uhhhh
>>27613392>>27618055>Pekora hate showing her skin I guess. From Marine word, back when Sankisei were still regularly meeting, Pekora always wear long skirtsTradwife Pekora...
why kiara 3d not so special lol
>>27618236>>27616337>>27615755>>27615146>>27614551what happened? you guys told me jp hates Kiara a lot.
>>27618246Thats part of why she is funny>>27618284Narukami is the most hated vtuber in the world,
>>27618245Not really. Maybe Holo just doesn't want to associate with NijiEN branch. Which why Mito is worried about EN.
>>27617771I assume this was her princess outfit back in Pekoland
>>27610787>>27618294
>>27618455Those that hated her have moved on anon. It's been nearly 2 years, they don't even bother to hate-watch her anymore.
>>27618298>following Kson before Vshojo is fine>following her after is too farI thought only a couple followed her in the first place
Maybe both companies mutually blocked each other on the EN side, for different reasons. My guess is Holo EN did it first to prevent market exposure and now that Niji EN has the China business they're also adding on restrictions on their side.
This looks cute
>>27618455it's the usual "I post on /jp/ so my opinions are the opinions of the Japanese" bullshit that lead to all the YWNBJ posting
>>27611663Renaissance is an idiom for back to glory, ID scene has never seen something like this, so this is more like the british industrial revolution.
>>27618498>t. a deflecting nijinigger
>>27618424reading the description turned me off. i closed the tab.
>>27618455Kiara is only hated /here/
>>27618490also part of why she lost more than half of her audience from 2019 to now
>>27618382It’s different compare to having your outfit actually showing skin
god fucking damit please go back to singing instead of this cringe showeven the views are slowly dropping. not by much but still
>AVmori tried to get kiara more numbers...
>>27618035I've never seen such levels of self aggrandizement from any other JP...They often ask each other their first impressions, current impressions, and often have a small talk deck which lets them talk about various things.This... "Oh, you like Kiara? Name every single thing about her" type of thing... it's so weird.
>Mori fits a Shrek reference inAnd there it is
Being completely unbiased I think for what is essentially a homegrown 3D studio this is actually pretty impressive. Really the thing to workout is the 24FPS problem. It's too bad Kiara's chicken voice is so hard on the ears. The fact that she still hasn't dropped it entirely is absurd.
Well Guras been on screen long enough. We've seen the peak. Did it do better or worse than you thought?
>>27618725>>27618725no actually it went up to 36k during the talk segment
>>27618652No we don't. Only the few schizos.
>>27617659If you schizopost in a general with an opinion that's too far off from the norm you can get reported for trolling and banned.This thread is for discussion of all vtubers so people can bring their tribalfagging and shitposting here and still not be off topic.
>>27618607Nina, Rosemi and Pomu iirc were the only confirmed ones.
>>27617779What did she say?
>>27618227Riku has the thinking ability and decision making of a kid who does rash decisions, blame the other party and has the arrogance to make himself look better. Who would even think to do IPO at niji's stage right now? Even yagoo didn't because there's no need to. Did the farms get over to his head, thinking that people could be emotionally invested to one girl after seeing big numbers?
>No Gura or Mori danceno 40k for you Kiara
>>27618834Slightly better. I though she would struggle to get 30k followed by a push when gura was on screen.
>>27618382she likes to clickbait, but she's very prudish about lewd topics
>>27618413>tradwifeshe's a cat lady anon
>>27618834Literally what I expected
>>27614491ALL OUT WAR LMAO
>>27618763Kiara has always been like this. She's a total attention whore, everything has to be about her, if you don't constantly kowtow to her bloated ego she fucking bitched and whines nonstop, its intolerable
>>27618607Rosemi Pomu and Petra based on that thread that was linked from 10 months ago
>>27618941MY BALLS
>>27618826Yea all shit posting aside, the end product is pretty good qaulity. A good sign for future projects done in Ame's garage.
>>27618834In the ballpark, I said 35k
>>27618826Since they just need to handle the mocap data, it's fine. It's a different case when they need to render it as well.
>>27618869>No we don'tSpeak for yourself. We definitely hate that bitch
>>27618834I was wrong im surprised she managed to get past 35k at this shitty hour
>>27618855at the point where i posted it was (very slowly) going down anon. it went on to long (and was way to cringe for me but i guess thats just part of the charm for regular EN watchers)
This is so damn stable...How do you interpret a graph that peaked this early? Zero tourists?
>>27611648>36+k I won fag i expect you to ship pekoras hair to me asap
>>27618932I say let’s wait. If Niji have no significant project that seem like it cost a lot of money in the future then it’s clear he go IPO because he want out. Otherwise why would he go IPO?
>>27619069Found the schizo
>>27618834went 30k, would have gone 35 if not for the delay, so higher than i expected.
>niji streams so much, affirming that they won't sing and dance when 3D comes>does quizzes for 3D debut>Vox would do RP ASMR in his debut with a 3D model
>>27618869>weSpeak for yourself.>>27619082Normal stream.
>>27618834I said 30K, but now I think she could've hit 40K without the delay, but it's pretty good quality for what was essentialy put together by 3 retards in an hangar
>>27619082>Zero tourists?yeah its all kfp due to this shitty timezone hell she picked
>>27619082Only EN audience gives a shit, and what you are seeing is the full volume of EN audience
>>27618834I said 35k but was hoping for high 40s.Reality prevails.
>>27618892Nina unfollowed her way before she joined Vshojo
>>27618834MY FUCKING BALLS
>>27618607The vshojo thing is a rrat. No one knows when exactly they unfollowed her.
>>27618522>pekolando no himesama
>>27619120>won't sing and dance when 3D comesThanks god, kino incoming
>>27618455No one really 'hates' her now, it's just that she has an insane number of filters so most people don't care for her.Her early behavior was also obnoxious as hell, so people have a general bad impression of her, nothing close to 'hate' though.
>>27618607I remember Rosemi and Pomu following her
>>27619159This. EN is a dead branch, 35k is the absolute ceiling of what these useless whores can achieve as a group
>>27619082Low amount of tourists since the time slot is horrible for anybody that might want to watch. She managed to pick the perfect time to filter both the JP tourists (way too late) and the US tourists (way to early, still at work).
>>27619069> we
>>27618977Pekora would literally feed you as long as you can be her husband and do things for her while she play video game
>>27619107To let out other investors. Maybe he's been getting demands from the chinese firms, maybe he wants to give them an out.
>>27618834A little less than I expected.
>>27618607Pomu is a whore and it has been proven repeatedly already.
>>27619027Despite not making the best numbers Ame continues to carry Myth from behind the scenes.
>>27618977>not even a cake and already becoming a crusty cat ladyABE LET ME IN, I CAN SAVE HER BLOODLINE
>>27619120>affirming that they won't sing and dance when 3D comesthat aint happening anymorse since anycolor is gonna lean hard on the idol route
>>27618236>293this man is on another level
>>27618834With all the mori hate and schizos at the time of the mori stream, unironically how did it get that high? JP Time/Superiority?
>>27619238If she stops playing JRPS and stop using that voice on top of doing SC readings at every ending instead of one whole stream, she would've been a stable 8k streamer
>>27619082Forced cull, as we've known from Kiara's numbers and polls since forever ago.We know this isn't nearly the real peak for a long time, but it is what we have so it's what we can work with.
>>27618647So Mito's opinion means nothing to you? If she's worried, what makes you think Holo's managers will not see it the same way after their vetting process.
>>27612666Meds
>>27618834A little a the low side, thought it might be able to get into the high 30's but it's still decent. I thought Gura or Mori would sing with her not just do a game.
>>27619238Well, that and she used to be a target at /cgl/ and alot of them moved over here and got newfags to hate her in order to fit in
>>27619274So this is the EU audience?
>Even the stage was made by Kanaeruwhat the fuck?
>>27619358I mean, they already established the idol unit for loxem
>>27617779the entire fucking dialogue with Mori was cringe incarnate
>>27619485yes the worst audience for any vtuber
The fact that kobo's 3D will MOG the entirety of myth's and council's 3D debut makes me fucking wheeze
>>27619159>>27619268>Posts exactly 1 minute apart
>>27619402JP time with no overlap and done in the proper studio without a hundred caveats of "ok guys you know it's gonna be scuffed right?" Also Suisei.
>>27619358How the fuck is Fulgur gonna dance when he's so obese that he's legally disabled.
>>27619484Cover literally contributed nothing to this but they're going to get a cut anyway LMAO
>>27613135Because she is retarded like that
Given this awful time slot, the real test is to see how high the view count will be after a day, once most of her potential audience has a chance to watch it
>>27619465>Well, that and she used to be a target at /cgl/Not true, I looked for old posts and there was fuck all but a handful of posts amusement that she existed
>>27619069>we
>>27619484The assets are made by someone else. Probably the same person from holoverse and smol advent.
HUKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>27618336It's the biggest Nijisanji stream since Mayuzumi's announcement that is neither Mayuzumi's or Salome's. Sorry about that.>The answer would be a difference in the audience between male and femaleLize's stream has greater overlap with Yashikizu, Chaika, Kagami, Rikiichi, Gwelu, Leos and Maimoto than with Mayuzumi. Actually Yashikizu's is like 7 times higher.>which liver's fanbase ever got 20% and above?I think Ngo or Masaru got over 20% once on one of the smaller streams. Wouldn't that just mean that Salomefags are not nijifags?
I think my ears are fucking bleeding.
>>27619591Spin in his mobility scooter.
>>27618616Yes
if thegunrun and vwhorejo "love vtuber culture" so much why was their 3D way worse than some burnout twitch streamer getting SEAworlders to work for free while putting up a studio in her backyard
Ok, BRS is pretty kino
>>27619591easy just hire a dancer and mocap them
>>27619485honestly if she managed to get 35k of entirely euros that's a pretty good showing, even Kobo 'superstar of indonesia" caps out around those numbers
>>27619289She has some steep demands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSa8vkZLh4I
>>27619591Niji has stand-in dancers and hired vocalists.
>>27619553By the time Kobo gets 3D her 15 minutes of fame will be over and she'll be Haachama tier. Reminder that Kobo can't even break a 30k ceiling yet LMAO.
>>27619825Anykara special
>>27619485It's the mixed EU + Superlatenight JP + WFH NA (plus whatever students are off from school since it's summer holidays right now)Generally one of the weakest timezones for english speakers on YT. It's a bit better on Twitch.
>>27619801NA vtuber culture
>>27619801Ssshh.. he IS the tech-god anon! Or are you doubting the hero kson rn!? How dare you!
>Kanauru also made a fucking chariot for this one section.This has been better than many 3Ds
>>27619579I'm sure there was some overlap because I watching something else.
>>27613135She hates her fans and wants them to suffer.
>>27616488Much better, Peko-chan is cute, not sexy.
>>27619948Yeah, ignore the shit posters. This has been very impressive considering all the obstacles they had.
>>27619948You know that JP already had this thing since Suisei's live last year right?
>>27619314
>>27619594Consider it like taxes. No one like taxes but that basically you paying to be the citizen of a country and you can’t complain about it because you are nothing if not bonded to a countryWhenever I put it like that the Cover cut seem less bullshit
>>27619415Her graph looks the exact same than Pekora's... Pekora must be culled as well!
>>27619801Ame has unironically reached a higher la creativad status than Coco did back when she was with the company at this point.
>>27619801thegunrun only had 11 million dollars and wasted who knows how much on his streamer backpack idea. Ame by contrast could have roped Gura in at least, and depending on how willing she was to splurge, it turns out like this
>>27619868You just need to be a loyal husband who cook and do housework for herI can do all that if she let me cuddle her at night
>>27619863It's not all euros - it's summer break, so there's bound to be a decent amount of NA zoomers watching, along with various JP night owls (see 5ch) and the SEA/AUS dregsI'm a burger that WFH so I get to watch this
>>27620033exactly
>>27619594do we have any confirmation on this?All we know is that the setup etc. was done by the girls and Kanauru, we have no idea who contributed financially.
>>27619594Ofc they are going to get a cut. They arrange the mechs prduction.
Considering other than the literal model, this is essentially an entirely indie production, this turned out so much better than I would have expected
>>27620230>7 of my posts made it this timebased
>>27620058Unironically, yes. All youtubers are culled to some extent or another, but we have determined the level of cull is variable, with flesh streamers usually only being culled by iirc something like 5%. Kobo and other IDs are culled by at least 100%, they have double their displayed CCV outright
>>27620058
>>27620092She only do 3D though. It’s impressive but calling that “creativity” is kind of exaggerating it
The only thing I could say if Ame has her own 3D studio, she could do amazing things on her own with it. It's probably 5 digits cheap too, but it'll probably be a worthwhile investment for 2-3 years.
>>27619594Of course. Cover provided the tech after all.
>>27610857nijifags are sub 10k shitters without bots
la creatividad...
>Ame's connections which got Kanauru>built a fucking 3D studio in a caveAme doesn't get paid enough for this shit
>Averaging 950 messages a min all throughout the live>30k likes with a 36k peak>Very little graph movementYou know the drill. This is the classic NA cull special
>>27619594Considering this is counted as her personal project since it's not a proper debut...yes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-Ajz4csVZc>Kobo actually overlapped the entire thingThe pride of Indonesia.......
All right Gura you can do a Karaoke today
>>27620386Ame's news program was better than Asacoco
>>27620264Yeah im giving it a second look. Kiaras voice and the lack of mixing turned me off lol
>>27620264Feels good being a teamate
>>27620506Its the ID special to overlap birthday streams
>>27620456>He doesnt knowAme is gonna be the new EN manager
>>27620467There is no such thing as cull. Kiara just has terrible viewer retention, she probably churned the entire CCV number every 4 minutes
>>27620506So much for being a huge Kiara fan i guess.
Very good live. I was impressed by everything. The one thing I found weird though was that Gura was there and she didn't even do a song with Kiara? That is weird.
>>27620506Blue women don’t care, they live in a different dimension
>>27620472She already said it isn't a proper 3d debut, so yea. They'll get one when they can get their asses through the border, JAPAN HURRY THE FUCK UP OR ELSE MORE BUSINESS ARE GONNA GO UNDER.
>>27620536When was the last time Gura did a stream the same day as another EN had a big event?
>>27620107Fuck I just realized it's actually impossible for Vshojo to even meet each other all at once because Ironmouse literally can't leave her home. They only have like what 5 members that can do a live performance right now?
AME LOVE
>>27620225>we have no idea who contributed financiallyCover usually prepare budget for them. Anything beyond that is by themselves (when they want to go extra kino)
>>27620506>being this new
>>27619913>haachama tierToo high, she'll recline back to the regular ID numbers
>>27620536LMAO be easy on kiara anon
>>27620264Other than blurry as fuck 3D for some reason and minor glitches here and there, yeah it's pretty good. Still doesn't beat a proper 3D on Cover's 3D though. ABEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OPEN THE BORDER ONEGAI.
>>27620648>Ironmouse literally can't leave her homeDYRBI
>>27620506It's the sign of a being event, being overlapped by ID
>>2762046720% cull, 80% kiara cullYou guys didn't expect her to get amazing numbers for this right? She is numbers repellent
>>27620225These weren't proper 3Ds, they did it by themselves without assistance from management, so it literally all came from themselves and their resources
Wait am I wrong or are blue women all topped the chart today? Ah I mean yesterday
>>27620446I really hate all the Ame fellating everyone gives her. Blah blah behind the scenes work, you're a streamer not tech support. Where are the fucking streams?
>>27620506Anon, if one of the IDs isn’t overlapping your live it means it sucks and it’s not worth of their overlap
>>27620446THE PROTAGONIST OF EN!
>amelia circlejerk5k shitter btw
What kind of emotions Huke would be experiencing right now? It was obvious he made that BRS request (Although I wished it would've been steins gate) It'd be a long time for any nijiENs to get their own 3Ds. Huke's dreams was probably met, a lot of other holo papa/mamas too. NijiEN mama/papas shouldve wait for Cover to ask them. I can't imagine so-bin asking Nina to sing any overlord songs kek. He's the only one I feel unfortunate enough to draw nina with his profile.
>>27620910Don't open global
>>27620649The member stream when she cried watching Kiara and Mori 3D
>>27620910Ame isn't that great of a streamer, if she can make other streams better instead that's a win I think. Do you really need to see her being bad at another platformer or Apex?
>>27619913yeah, you already said she'll be irrelevant in about 2 months after her debutnow she's a 10k streamer and comfortably mogging the entire luxiem on daily basistick tock anon, tick tock
>>27620867Not unless you consider Salami blue. If you're trying to say something like "Pekora got top JP, Gura got top EN and Kobo got top ID" that's...normal. In fact only Pekora ever has stable competition, ironically. Kobo can never lose ID gold and Gura loses to big events from other "EN" steamers.
>>27620625It's baffling that the government is dragging their feet so much on this. The tourism industry in Japan is floundering right now and local officials are pressuring the government to open the borders. However, they just won't do it and are afraid to make a decision. It's like they miss the Tokugawa shogunate or something.
>>27620414No they didn't you fucking retard, they contributed the 3D model (that was languishing for a year until Holofes due to lockdown) and that was it. All the equipment and hardware is Ame's and all the assets, animation, recording, and mixing were done by contractors like Kanauru and Seafoam Boi. Cover has their own staff for the 3D studio and they did NOTHING to contribute or assist with this.
>>27620568
>>27620998Kiara's talked about wanting to do BRS forever in honor of Huke.
>>27620949She's still the debuff detective
>>27620867the power of blue women
>>27620264Production, dancing, everything is freaking amazing.It's a wonderful stream to watch muted
What was the final SC recount btw?
>>27621029>Kiara and Mori 3D...that happened? Pretty sure she didn't do a day 2 watchalong
>>27620949This is why a thread that can't see things in any other way but "CCV" will never understand how to properly rank streamer popularity.
>>27620648>Ironmouse literally can't leave her home>he still believe her narrative
>>27620949>Helped produce numerous 1 mil vods, the hit myth or treat and a 1 million view animation seriesseethe nijinelson
>>27621080It's the dream of every true Japanese to tell the rest of the world to fuck off and just live in their island and only speak Japanese and not worry about anything else. Covid is like having Christmas every day for over two years.
>>27620998Literally watching your child saying "tank you daddy" on stage type of projecting.Probably bawling his eyes out if/when he watches it.
>>27621175I'm more willing to believe the 'paid dancers' narrative than that Ironmouse has made her entire IRL life into a web of lies and deceit.
>>27620648They could just use Melodys studio
>>27619801He's like, sending Kson to space man. And he knows about teamspeak.Can't worry about dumb shit like 3d when you got that skillset
>>27620648>he still believes that ironmouse cant leave her home
>>27619913>Kobo can't even break a 30k ceiling yet LMAOwe are talking about the ID market here, averaging around 200 ccv and only breaking through 1k ccv with the help of overseas fans.15k ccv with 90% local viewers is beyond amazing. Seems like you nijinibber misunderstand the situation about her.
>>27620648> because Ironmouse literally can't leave her home.Anon…>Vshojo tech is so good it makes even Ironmouse to rise up and dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tI6RTXm2Q0
>21,840 views - Streamed live 83 minutes agoExplain this
>>27621103You sure anon? Because a week ago people here said that nobody from Cover came to Ame's but now we know that Jenma was there.
>Vshojo buying out Ame to get the 3D set>Kanauru worked on the 3D>NijiEN pays him to work on their 3DIf this happens, NijiEN and VShojo deserves to fail. They can't even be resourceful or creative on dealing with problems even though they have money pumped into their company.
>>27620386Coco had AsaCoco, Meme Review, and introducing the talents to Ark.Ame currently made a 3D studio, commissioned multiple different 3D models for her entire branch, made the Smol Adventures OVA, allowed EN members to actually have a 3D live, and had the initial fish tank podcast.Honestly even if some of her stuff is one-offs I feel Ame overall has done a lot more impressive things for her branch atm. Coco originally broke the mold but Ame is basically allowing EN to do things that weren't originally physically possible.
>>27620998Nijilivers are rarely in contact with their illust with niji's weird rule or things like that.
>>27621350Newfaggotry detected.
>>27621307
>>27621344>links live were their tech wasn't used>look at this vshojo tech
>>27621391>and introducing the talents to Ark.One of these is not like the others
She ended up making more money than Mori, so even if she don't have viewers, she can at least cry in her money
>>27621354Retard you think their personal manager can fine tune 3d tech? You think despite mentioning Ame and Jenma and what they came to do, every EN is hiding that Jenma/Cover contributed to the 3d thing? Why are you cover apologists like this, the women literally keep saying "these are the people who made 3d happen" and you fags go "are we suuuuuuuuuuure 30 cover engineers weren't helping".
>>27621396Not true for EN
>>27621451You retard, read again and figure the joke out
>>27621493Hope someone posts her menhera outbreak when it happens.
>>27621493>le superchat memekek
>>27621486i mean the ark arc (lol) was a big thing back then. its worth a mention
>>27619913Alright anon do whatever you want
>>27621493>tfw i sent $1500
pink dog shilling her song with Kiara, good girl.
>>27620998If you look at his twitter, he’s literally a Kiara fanpage at this point. He’s so enamored with her that I’m sure he feels overwhelmed with emotion knowing that her very last song in 3d was the one dedicated to him
>>27621344That's Trash Taste boys mocapping for them.
>>27621361They'd still pay kanauru to do 3D though, only that, they wouldn't know how to have a mocap setup in their home. Other than that, I don't think they could do any content like niji does with their debut quiz and gameshows. HoloEN had been singing, dancing or doing guest calls. They're all physically unfit to do anything on stage.
>>27621592KFP are brainwashed, so they'll probably still by shitty merch
>>27621361Vshojo has already paid Kanauru to make 3D shorts for them before.
>>27621262Anon..
>>27621631damn she's awake?
I didn't expect I'd have so much fun watching kiara's bday stream good job kiara you have my respect for today
>>27621631as expected from someone who was forged in the fires of 2view hell
>>27621655Well if we learned anything from Irys... Is that having a good relationship with your art designer is important. Huke probably gonna go wild on Kiara's next outfit whenever it happens
>>27620594they should just have her slay omega in lore and then take the position of en producer
>>27621760>REDJUICE HATE!
>>27621693Same with NijiEN, they both can't find anyone else to do the job for them. kanauru is cheap since he likes Hololive, can't they find someone in their fanbase to do the job?
>>27620446where is your creative freedom kson?
So, if my timing's right, when Miko ended is when Mori and Gura came on Kiara's stream, which means Kiara got close to 0 funnel from her 15k.Also, kek at Mysta ending stream but Kobo not.
>>27621312I'm pretty sure ID has a higher market cap than EN when it comes to vtuber.It's just they didn't get any spotlight before, and now with spotlight and little competitors, I can see them have a bright future for future gens.
>>27621817riku could easily afford several 3D studios for nijiEN. i'm sure they'll be fine
>>27621760This applies to Suisei as well
The only true LA creatividads in hololive are Amelia and haachama because they're two sides of the same coin
>>27621760Pako... Sana doesn't deserve Pako. He's a good papa.
>>27621817Kanauru is a unityfag, if his personal animations are any indication. I don't think he minds.
>>27621344>>27621289>>27621175>>27620756I'm more willing to think they got paid dancers than Ironmouse seemingly lying about having a terminal disease her entire career. Hell talents that could actually dance normally just do MMD videos instead so their exactly above faking a performance.
>>27621262>that Ironmouse has made her entire IRL life into a web of lies and deceit.Its more common than you think
>>27621854not really, Suisei can get whichever artist she wants
>>27621834Funnels that late, might as well just watch the VOD at a later date that far into the stream.
What happened to Kuzuha? Why is he reclining?
>>27621860Haachama has lost it tho.
>>27619594I would assume they at least cover the costs, no? Like commissions and maybe the mocap set? How much is the mocap anyway? 50k?
>>27621923Yeah but it still has to be designed around her base model. Which honestly looks really dated if you compare her to the other girls.
>>27621262>entire IRL life into a web of lies and deceit> he doesn't know
>>27611353>>27612961how do I read these overlaps?
>>27621978>LOLI mean....
>>27621536Well it's been changing since last year, probably after seeing how effective having a great/famous illust as your allies in increasing popularity for holo. Before, you'll rarely see any of the niji's illust interacting with them in any form.
>>27621910Kek
>>27621904>Ironmouse seemingly lying about having a terminal disease her entire careerIs ironmouse lying about having a disease? No Is she overexaggerating it? YesIt happens so many times in twitch that it mght as well be a tag see pic related >>27621910
>>27621978He's gotten addicted to League.
>>27621904Honestly, she's probably not lying about the disease, but the fact that she HAS lied about other things... it puts a bit of a black stain on people who want to believe her wholeheartedly.
>>27621910this shit was funny.
>>27622002Moona said that Cover is providing mocap suit. I don't know about EN.
>>27621631Based /#/chad!
>>27622063idk lol is a buff game for Kaela
>>27622044That many % of chatters in this stream also chatted in streams on listed channels during the specified period.
>>27620998>NijiEN mama/papas shouldve wait for Cover to ask them.Well, Petras mama already has Koyori as her new favorite child.
>>27621262lmao Ironmouse really did a good job of scrubbing everything if there is people like this.
>>27621511Take it easy, mythdroid
>>27621068>Actually comparing Kobo to LuxiemDo I need to bring out the superchats again? Even Noctyx comfortably mogs Kobo in terms of revenue. Have fun mogging Mika and other irrelevant streamers.
>>27620839Not in their proper 3D studio, sure. But that's obviously not something they can use right now.Jenma was there helping out with the setup, so why does everyone think that Cover didn't give them the same basic budget they give to the JPs?
>>27622011that's only because she refuses to update
>>27621904They did pay dancers.How is this a fucking topic of discussion we're having?THEY WERE ALL studio dancers using the Vshojo girls models even mixed with some MMD.This isn't like some big secret, Nyan didn't do any of those fucking dance moves, they got control back for talk portions if they had any.
>>27620033He's a hlgg goblin that only watches Myth, of course he wouldn't know about that lmao
>>27622159different audiences, anonKuzuha channel grow playing FPS
>>27622202holycope
Kiara Birthday 3D>https://www.vstats.jp/video/W0lICCjnuDs>1 hour, ~20 minutes>32568 CCV Average, 33856 CCV Peak>22k views, ~31k Likes, Just NowAssuming a Total Churn Time of 5 minutes>80 minutes / 5 minutes = 16 turnovers>16 * 32568 = 521088 viewsAssuming a Total Churn Time of 30 Minutes>80 minutes / 30 minutes = ~2.6 turnovers>2.6 * 32568 = ~84678 viewsDividing Total Views by CCV Average>22k views / ~32k = 0.6875 turnovers>80 minutes / 0.6875 = ~116 minutesObviously this is a ridiculous number, but I did the calculations just for the same of having a benchmark for how they change later as the views process
>>27620998Isn't Reimu's artist not credited?
>>27622258Holy fucking soulless. Who even watched that? Why do these twitch thots that hate this sort of stuff still...do concerts and lives?
>>27622206>Cover didn't give them the same basic budget they give to the JPsI don't think people here know that Cover gives them a budget for their 3D and that their 3D studio is free.
How did Myth do HoloFes if their mo-cap data isn't compatible with Cover's?
>>27622349You’re using vrabi median, it’s not the mean average you think it is
>>27622355Some nijis don't have their artists credited for some reason like picrel for example.>>27622391What?
>>27622386I mean, people in /#/ probably are more likely to know than the rest of the board, but its precisely because these WEREN'T proper 3d Lives that I don't think they got the same budget. >>27622391??? When did anyone say it wasn't? Its probably Cover being stubborn about certain things since they're waiting for Myth to have their proper 3d Debuts, and FES was an exception.
>>27622349>33856 CCV PeakThe fuck did they get that so wrong?IT was over 35 for like 40 minutes.Vrabi has it at 36,856HoloStats at 36,843
>>27622391Why would they tell you their trade secret lol
>>27622409I swapped to Vstats which does display an explicit average
>>27622202You do know Supachats were opened for Indonesia only like a few weeks ago right? For the past 2 years HoloID have been using like 2 or 3 different off-site donation platforms.
>>27622409No, that anon is not using median this time.
>>27621910when is fakemouse getting zilean treatment?
>>27622384That's why they'll stagnated and eventually become irrelevant. You cant just survive om stream alone
>>27622308Nice cherrypicked streams. Even Finana could beat Kobo if you cherrypicked streams hard enough. Also doesn't refute the superchat thing but I guess it's hard to argue against actual facts. Hope she enjoys her poorfag audience which gives no money or loyalty and will just move on to the next big thing once they get bored.
>>27622391They cared enough to pay for it and schedule a mo-cap studio in advanceThe other rrat is that they were paid dancers, but after seeing Gura's and Kiara's 3D lives, the movements check out
>>27622202Anon the very fact that a fucking ID chuuba is even COMPARABLE to Luxiem is an insult.It doesn't matter what metrics you bring up to cope, the very fact that Hololive's INDONESIAN branch is on the same level as Nijisanji's ENTIRE ENGLISH BRANCH is not something to be proud of.
>>27621910Idk the backstory for this pic
>>27622647ok zhang
Which holos did Kanauru do the motion tracking himself for in Gura's 3D live again?
>>27622647>Even Finana could beat Kobo Way to lose your credibility with 5 words
>>27622637They're also on Twitch though, they exhausted every single method of growth on that platform and there is no other option to grow except on other platforms like YouTube, Twittter, >TikTok, etc.
>>27622349So based on these upper and lower bounds for view numbers, what are you guys betting the post processing view number will come out to in 24 hours?
>>27622121Consider she is planning to buy a valve index, maybe plan change ?
>>27622647I don't think Finana ever had a stream beat Kobo's outside like her debut.....
>>27620092A year ago I would've objected, but yeah. She's gone above and beyond.Despite her debuffson tendencies, Amelia is going to be remembered as the pillar of EN for a VERY long time.
>>27622667Yes it doesn't matter which metrics to be used, EN should always be on the upper hand in every metrics compared to ID.
>>27622688search for ziloanop
>>27622647If you can't actually provide evidence of your claims, those claims can be dismissed out of hand. We have proven, definitively, that NijiCN is pathetic and not a worthy rival to HoloID, with evidence.
>>27622688A guy faked being crippled only to show himself get up from his wheelchair live on stream. instant career ender
>>27621486Back in 2020 Ark was a pretty big buff, and got HUGE numbers to chuubas that played it.Coco singlehandedly kickstarted an Ark boom among VTubers, even Nijisanji.
>>27622688https://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/comments/46fjtc/twitch_streamer_ziloanop_raises_thousands_of/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
>>27622719Yeah and kson joining will not change that. While her roomate singing on big stages and featured in big events and teli, she'll forever seethe on twitch with some anituber
>>27622731Mocap suit is different from VR setup. Too many limitations with VR to be able to get mocap data as good as with mocap suit. She probably want to buy Index to play beat saber or some VR shit.
>>27622647keep coping anon, she's humiliated luxiem on daily basis, and when she passes vox on 4th was the cherry on top
>>27622647cherrypicked huh...
What's with nip playing rust lately?
>>27623032>latelyYou are late by 1-2 months anonchama
>>27623032That was last month
Oh yeah, with all this i completely forgot to mention that Veibae, forma de gyaru volpe appeared.
>>27623059>>27623061But why? what caused it??
>>27622816>>27622853Okay thats funny as fuck
>>27613027It's obviously 2, anon. Cover deserves to get shit on for wasting two years of hype for HoloEN.
>>27623032if your talking about nip indies then theres a new nip indie rust server just for them
>>27623031lmao
>>27623032>>27623059Those retards kept spamming it in Pekora's chat when she mentioned the cold chicken yab, god that was awful. They're addicted to the worst games that's kind of insane.
>uWuThis blue cunny streaming rn needs correction
> Kiara didn't set up a hashtag for her birthday stream to let people tweet with it and get into trendingnande?
>>27623088Fotm and streamer server.>>27623105Blame covid and Japan govs' stupidity.>>27623150What is the relationship between cold chicken ad rust?
>>27623088FPS gang made a server, invited everybody. You missed a lot, go archive dumpster dive
>>27623088New Apex season was shit, so FPS chubas needed something else.
>>27623031It's pretty goddamn wild that we know Kobo's floor is at least 10k but we have yet to see her actual potential cieling.
>Meanwhile on bizzardo fleshchubaLudwig 25k birthday stream..
>>27623196It's #Kiara3DBirbday, what are you talking about?
>>27623031>Indochads their receiptshow can a nejinigger recover from this
>>27623088Some Apex Pro made a common server for streamers, bunch of people got into it, shenanigans were had.You also missed nippleman getting ABAYO'd for saying Korean nigger and Ars sperging out about people stealing her shit in the game (and eventually leaving the server).
>>27623196Its the birbday hashtag she said so on the stream
>>27623226> What is the relationship between cold chicken and rustFacecam streamers fandom have a peeve with Peko. JunsGang is just an offshoot of that
>>27623274
>>27623108>>27623242No wonder i heard a lot of unfamiliar voices on chi-chan's stream
>>27622726The lower her viewer retention comes out to, the more likely there's cull. Based on the calculations I've done so far, which may be inaccurate due to using median instead of true average, true retention seems to float somewhere between 10 and 20 minutes for JP streams. The higher retention you get from a normal calculation, the more likely the number is real, the lower the retention from a normal calculation the less likely the number is real. Something like 160k views as a guess from me.
>>27623326The Euro timeslot is goddamn cursed.
>>27623243No wonder chi-chan isnt playing apex
>>27623031And I thought EN gold poster was annoying.
>>27623326>GermanyNow that is interesting
>>27622159Kuzuha isn't a cute hag
>>27623274O... oh...sorry I asked I guessI don't think she mentioned it on stream either
>>27619594Look at this retardKiara belongs to themHer songs belong to them.Without cover she wouldnt even be popular
>>27621860I can see this 2bh, Amelia's side is technical while haachama is more oriented towards content if that makes sense
>>27623247Eh her floor is still only around 5k or so, she's had low streams before.Her MEDIAN is 10k though, and yeah iirc that mogs more than half of NijiJP as well.
>>276234737# on Germany, that's surprising.
>>27623473Look at her Euro/pound supas lol
>>27621511>hidingshe thanked her on stream and during credits, take your fucking meds
>Translation: lyger>Subtitling: T-chanHuh
>>27623566And they're both kind of bad at getting shit done on time lol
>>27622737No, Finana had the scuffed debut and didn't even get 10k
>>27623574a 2k median would mog most of nijiJP
>>27623647Being sisters and blondes over that is just a recipe for disaster
>>27623326Does anyone here know where the European countries with the most weebs are? The best strategy now seems to be to pander to specific countries rather than a global audience, but Europe as a whole just seems completely uninterested in vtubers.