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Uh oh, getting nervous Holokeks?
これ
I... I just can't
This one
>>27603675How long are you going to be here? You've been shitposting for hours, don't you have anything better to do?
NIPPLEMAN I KNEEL
* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *>57,985: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>49,897: Salome (Nijisanji)>48,415: Marine (Hololive)>38,482: Pekora (Hololive)>34,717: Tamaki (NoriPro)>24,268: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)>22,212: Kobo (Hololive)>21,822: Lain (Nijisanji)>21,400: Mio (Hololive)>20,680: Subaru (Hololive)>20,382: Gura (Hololive)>20,320: Kiara (Hololive)>19,423: Patra (774 Inc.)>15,265: Kiara (Hololive)>14,887: Iroha (Hololive)>14,871: Flare (Hololive)>14,357: Koyori (Hololive)>14,028: Luca (Nijisanji)>13,391: Ina (Hololive)>13,084: Koyori (Hololive)>13,009: Ars (Nijisanji)>12,181: Lui (Hololive)>11,995: Watame (Hololive)>11,680: IRyS (Hololive)>11,404: Shigure Ui (Indie)>11,259: Selen (Nijisanji)>10,930: Moona (Hololive)>10,199: Botan (Hololive)>10,020: Sora (Hololive)
>>27603675What's your best card nijinigger?
>>27603714He's covering his bases and shitposted in the other one too. He's dedicated.
What is and isn't a buff for kobo is baffling. Getting over it 22k but horror kusoge only 12(itnmught get a few thousand more tho)?
Plateau'd after Z.Hasn't hit Z peak yet.
She's still drawing something
>heheh look at this sponsor! we got good numbers!>Pay us more!
>>27603742>JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab>PER COMPANY3x: Hololive1x: Indie, Nijisanji>PER STREAMER1x: AZKi, Mayuzumi, Miko, Subaru, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY121x: Hololive54x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER18x: Pekora16x: Aqua15x: Salome13x: Miko12x: Kuzuha9x: Subaru6x: Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Okayu2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mori, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
so, why doesnt it go back to the pre-z numbers, like every other Z we've seen?
>>27603761What if Z peaks are the numbers without the youtube cull?
Isn't it ironic that almost all the tourists that Salome brought in, went to watch Hololive instead of Niji?
>>27603782I will be the next
>>27603638Are you nervous yet Nijikeks?
Is Choco really going to overlap Kiara's 3d live playing Holocure?
>>27603807bots
>>27603782It needs to fall down one more time so we get the full nipple set
>>27603807Because it's not a real Z, it's fucking bots
>>27603807delayed verification most likely
>>27603809Pajeet coding is a mystery and it's best not to think too deeply about this shit.
CookieSwirlC grew 300k this month despite how big she already was. That's actually pretty crazy.
>>27603802>>27541464 #:: Silver>>27541577 #:: Bronze
It's slightly going down
>if you look below the 1st right now..There's your 3rd 10ks of the day, nijifags!
>>27603876She will peak around 62k I think and steal Gold. Especially if she streams longer than an hour.
>>27603876COME ON COMPLETE THE NIPPLE
>>27603807because the stream is 20 minutes in and still climbing retard
ANOTHER EASY HOLOGOLDHOLOCHAD DOMINATIONNIJIKEKS CANT STOP LOSINGGRADUATE EVERYONE IN THAT FAILURE COMPANY
>>27603915I imagine the sponsor bought an hour of her time.
>>27603915You must be joking. She'd need 3 more Zs to achieve that
>>27603926>still climbingYeah, sure
>>27603807She started pulling gacha at the same time.
steady nearing her N peak
>>27603959You willing to bet your balls?
Could be increasing
>>27603836>Pre recorded concert>Is Choco>She lez out live with Kiara during the countdown yesterdayIs fine
>>27603836Chocosen will funnel her 4k audience to Kiara
>>27603910why kuzuha is so low lately T_T
With the market being this super competitive, I don't think Vshoujo has any chance in JP. All these corpo vtubers with reputation, network, brand power and kayfabe can easily pulling huge number. Not sure what Kson planning right now.
>>27603807My guess
>>27604034he's not doing ranked apex
>>27604019What this dumb neet ojou need is to gacha already.Only autists read the story of a fucking gacha at least is FGO.
>>27604008Fuck yeah I'll bet my balls she won't reach 60kIf she fails to take gold I'll steal your balls
This is just in!Investors are going to pump in another 30k bots to over please the investors.HOLD ON TO YOUR SEAT FOLKS!
>>27604008Are you?Would you cut your on balls off if she fails to reach 60k?
Stabilize at 48k-49k?
>>27604044>Not sure what Kson planning right now.She's dumb, she's not the master businesswoman tatsunokos made you believe she was
>>27604044But muh freedom to do react streams and talk about diarrhea and periods.
>>27604072>Investors>Pleasing other investors>It's a giant circlejerkLMAO
>>27603637Pre-primetime /news/ update for 06-07-2022>>27591193Top ID Vtubers agencies>>27519062 Recent Clip Numbers>>27596119>>27596149>>27596267>>27596291
We 7 fucking days into July and Salome hasn't won a single gold. Crazy.
>>27604089Yeah, gunrun buttered her up like she were a piece of toast
>>27604099She could do that as an indie
>plateau before the Z>plateau after the Zlooks like the Z fucked up some cull/verification pajeet coding
I wish this fucking ojou would just play ff14 already and fade into obscurity forever
>>27603871That's why we don't numberfag converts against normal chuuba.Her recent avg daily Vod is over 12M.
>>27604145# gold is off the menu, sponsorship numbers are now the goal.
Is this the best nijiEN could ever do?
Kobo beat China twice today
NijiEN still can’t hit 10k today jesus christ LMAO
>>27604189>>27604197>beaten by indog twiceOH NO NO NO
>>27604044Kson goal is to change the landscape of vtubing and it already on it's way there. So that there no difference between indie and corporation and in the end everybody has fun together. The western streamer scene is already like that it's only in japan where you have tribal fags attacking each other and streaming belong to mega companies and not the people.
>>27604159I don't think Salome could ever beat pekora in a frontal ff14 stream fight
it's rising again
>>27604055is it my imagination or apex is dead game lately in japan?
>>27604197Damn, Kobo is an actual juggernaut. It's always interesting to see massive growths in a talent's viewership after debut. Makes it interesting to examine what led up to them suddenly blowing up in popularity
>>27604197Those are from yesterday
Salome starting to increase, she could still have life, anybody watching? Is she doing gacha now?
>>27604189>>27604197Council is underperforming and Luxiem is as popular as their JP ''livers'' Hololive in shambles!
>>27603871That's how it works, the more subs you have, the more yt algo will recommend your contents.That's why Kobo could legit be the actual **** killer, she hasn't reach 1M yet her growth steadily on the same level as millions subs chuuba. Once she joined 1M club, her subs growth might increase even more.
So next bot wave in 3... 2... 1....
>>27604155Do any of you people watch the streams to understand what affects the numbers at all?She was infodumping the game lore for the first 15 minutes (first plateau). Then she started the game and her stream fucking died so she had to restart it (Z). Then her viewers went up because she started pulling gacha and actually playing the game (second plateau).
>>27604267Everybody hate the current season.
>>27604189>>27604197We need an international Tally
50K DOOORRYYAAAAAA
i probably need to take my meds but salome's sudden increase after stagnating is 20 minutes in and 40 minutes in
Salome 50k get
>>27604089>she's not the master businesswoman tatsunokos made you believe she was>>27604144>Yeah, gunrun buttered her up like she were a piece of toastIt was one of the dumbest thing I ever seenkson>I'm joining VShojo because they'll help me fix what I failed: self managing my one woman companysome of her supporters here>she's a shrewd businesswoman which is making a move for the JP marketIf much she's sending a clear sign to the aspirant indie market>lol, you think you guys can self manage it? >I made a million dollars and still failed on my own
>>27604279She was playing the rythm game part
CAM ON SALOME 50K IS SO CLOSE
>>27604303sorry anon, someone already called out your cope
>>27604279Not yet, she is finally playing the rythm part of the gacha.
>>27604329Cringe
>>27604291and niji id and kr disband soon..hololive on shambless
I was watching Kobo's getting over it vod and Gura's holocure and Susan just wiped a few thousand views from both kek. Is any fucking number accurate on this site?
This is boring, lemme start another timeloop. ID deserve 3D concert way more than EN
>>27604275>2022-07-06>yesterdayStrayabro...
>>27604279she already did gacha after the bump (she had technical difficulties), she's actually playing the game now.
>>27604270Yeah. You got indo schools playing her song
>>27604044Anyone who follows smaller JP corpos and indies knows about this. The market is ridiculously oversaturated, it's hard for even big names like kson to gain more fans, it's going to be even harder for newly debuted vtubers.
Riku should've colored Salome yellow. Now she's stuck with the silver curse.
>>27604398Mona... Risu...
>>27604402Then I guess stabilizes at around 49k.
>>27604229>>27604342>>27604089Her goal was to get mikeneko a corpo job. She graduated in February and kson started considering on march.
>>27604292Indonesia is the fourth most populated country in the world, so I could see her reaching similar levels to Gura. However, breaking past her will be incredibly hard by virtue of Indonesia having multiple languages. While there is a "universal language," a lot of viewers will feel closer to those who speak a primary language similar to them (e.g. Jawa)
>>27604381kys frogposter
>>27604169Pewdiepie mogged.
>>27604434and get bronze ?
>>27604398we already are on a kson will revolutionize vtubing forever loop, retard
There isn't even any satisfaction to seeing Salome flounder, because all the smugposting about her was just transparent bait anyway. Fuck, there's a decent chance those same guys will just start a time loop after this
50K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>27577423>>27577384>>27577484>>27577749>>27577691>>27577581>>27577849KNEEL!!!
>>27604401I was talking about NijiEN's streams
>>27604229Cringe vshojo talking points.
>>27604489Based grudgeposter
>>27604474Yeah, grudgeposting just isn't the same when they clearly want to be grudgeposted
>kneeling to botsngmi
DO GACHA STUPID BITCH!EVEN MIURA ONLY PLAYED IM@S FOR THE GACHA!
>>27604429They're clearly hoping to be able to muscle themselves into 3rd spot after the big 2 with some famous names. But that 3rd spot is now pretty contested.
>>27604494Vox is still streaming anon
Can we talk about Ado's latest banger
>>27604197Vox really is declining leaving Mysta as the biggest NijiEN.
>>27604449seethe
>>27604474nijiseethe
Salome still oh so slightly inclining
>>27604398EN 3d concert exist because ame is the only one who do shit, ikn if someone in ID want to do all the shit management don't wanna do
50K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>27604474>50k shill stream>floundernumberrot has eroded you fags' brains to nothing
>>27604535retard, the games miura played doesn't even have gachanot only you are a vtuber newfag, you don't even know idolm@ster
>>27604544He said NijiEN, not NijiCN
King i beg you, stop playing League.
>>27604569Gachas are megabuffs
>>27604574The original post was talking about beating China.
>>27604569And pegor got 60K+ from GBF, your point being?
>>27604569If they don't get daily gold they're a failure and should graduate.
>>27604229This isn't your average shounen anime, western Vtubers are just Twitch streamers with an anime girl avatar, they can't do anything big corpos like Hololive or Nijisanji can offer them
>>27604569when half of /vt/ believes Salome has 40k bots, these are the comments you get
>>27604555ah yeah latest one is good, far better than the second release imo
Wanna know something funny? >can you guys see the irony of Salome playing an idol game today?I wonder where the audience that really enjoyed the idolfaggotry will land after this stream. Maybe they will check.... >the idol vtuber company?
>>27604292>>27604447Speaking of Indonesia, Mythia's growth rate began has seemingly recovered for almost a month now. She still gets 1k a day even though her last stream was 8 days ago.
>>27604599Didn't he say he was never gonna play league again after raging a lot
>>27604603She's not pulling gacha for 2 hours straight though.
>>27604574there is no NijiEN, even the girls get more numbers when chink pandering
>>27604648The true league experience.
>>27604599like salimi will get any funnel
>>27604229Is that even a desirable outcome, considering quality-wise JP vtubing is still leagues above EN?
Salome better do something or it's silver again
>>27604599lol is dead gameapex is dead gameoh noo..how do we save king?
>>27604429kson isn't that known for pulling big numbers even when she was Coco. the real potential ace is Nazuna, since rushia was a high-mid holo in terms of CCV, but that remains to see if all the fandead/nekofami moves along with her.
Question is now if she's going for more than an hour.
>>27604569>Im@s>gachaHow new are you that you can't see how these 2 are buffed content?
>>27604633Salome probably only has 30k bots
Kuzuha, end stream already and funnel Salome... you could easily get gold for Niji...
>>27604656Gura could get as many as 20k+ for TW and KR duolingo though
>>27604695holocure delivery
>>27604671Nothing to do with Salami, King getting 12k is just sad to watch.
>>27604695Ark collab with Akirose
>>27604599king....
>>27604443>Her goal was to get mikeneko a corpo job.That's an absurd cope. >kson shackled herself into an arrangement with VShojo and went back on her "not joining another company" pledge to save mikeAlmost as dumb as the original>she's graduating to become a manager on HololiveMaybe the simpler explanation is the correct one>she wanted to be an indie but failed to self manage
>>27604398I think Moona said she can't do 3D concert due to budget constraint.
>>27604648I'm embarrassed to say that I once said this and even I returned to it for a bit 8 years later. I swore off it again within a couple of months as I remembered why I hate it, but I'm scared one day I'll touch that shit again.
>>27604702Shill streams go for 1 hour always
>Miko 18kWhat happened?
>>27604447Would love to see a Javanese ID vtuber, cause I'm a Javanese myself, but Kobo is enough for now. Having highly talented vtubers focusing on local market is already pretty good. If she's consistent she would be big.Babysteps my friend, don't ask too much at once. Alon-alon waton kelakon.
>>27604696>rushia was a high-mid holoonly when not overlapped, which she seemed to bitch about a lot behind the scenes
>>27604747LOL
>>27604723too bad for him, now riku has other golden goose to botted
>>27604633Nobody believes that Salome has 40k fucking bots, it's at least half of what Salome is showing right now. ~25k, but who gives a shit outside of here. Anykara may or may not be using farms, if they did, they're paying thousands for nothing more than manufactured hype.
>>27604645Imasfags are not really into idol vtubers because they're giga autistic. The vtuber with most imasfags in her fanbase I've seen so far is Mito and that's because she played shiny colors for over 30 times and is an imas diehard so the fanbase just accepted her as one of them.
>>27604753You are replying to a ksontard. They think Kson plays 4D chess
>>27604747Demon King Rimuru!
>>27604762Her usual number
>>27604817Isn't Suisei a HUGE im@s fag even releasing a song paying homage to their style (by hiring their composer), or I'm mistaking for another franchsie?
>>27604829yeah like putin
>>27604723i thought his simp are crazy.. guess they were not dedicated enough
>>27604342>sending a clear sign to the aspirant indie market*ambitious indie marketIndies who just want to stream comfortably without any big ambitions will have no trouble handling their own shit, or hiring a manager like Delta did.Ambitious folks will obviously have to go corpo to get the resources they need.
>>27604809>for nothing more than manufactured hype.And that works, she attracted people by just using big numbers
>>27604779/warkop/ is 2 block that way
>>27604861go back!
Salome ngmi
>>27604762Elden Ring stopped being buff long time ago.
>>27604229If that's what she or Vshojo really want, that's such a naive goal, like trying to acheive world peace or end racism. Not everything has to be like the Twitch streaming in the west, where the top streamers and organizations are incestuously circlejerking and spitting their audience into each others' mouths. The main reason those conditions existed in the first place is because there is literally no other way to grow on Twitch other than collabing. A lot of people like their entertainment compartmentalized and don't like when insufferable retards with incompatible audiences collide with people they like.
>>27604229oh my god dude, don't tell me you unironically believed that line...
>>27604779Just having any presence in ID is a miracle for Hololive. Branching as a vtuber outside of JP, KR, and now EN is like treading into unknown waters. I don't know if there are any bigger ID streamers than Kobo, but I wouldn't be surprised if she started a mini-renaissance in vtubing over there similar to Gura in the States
>>27604860isn't Taku Inoue the composer you are talking ?
>>27604647I have an argument before, that most of Kobo's fans will funnel to the other ID vtubers instead of the other Holomems. Maybe I was right. We will see.
>>27604747More like Viscount, at this point.
>>27604642It's Vaundy
>>27604861now that makes me smile
How did Pekora know the exact moment Salomi would recline?
5 minutes left salamifags
>>27604829Sunk cost fallacy.
>>27604762Honestly not that startlingly low for Miko. Might even be impressive given there are 2 other streams with similar CCV overlapping.
noel head to head with shion on monhun, not bad
>>27604881And all of the went to hololive instead of their other livers
>>27604860that's Enstars, she did a sponsored im@s stream with Roberu and Fubuki. The catalog shitposted for about 3 or 4 days.
>>27604197That's like saying Pekora beat Iofi or something.It's the natural order of things.
>That thumbnail>That title>....he's playing FIFAno wonder his numbers aren't great, this isn't EU hours yet.
>>27604747NEXT TARGET
>>27604873>He doesn't know
Hmmm...Salome's CCV climbed and Z'd up to a plateau of almost exactly 50k with a margin of a few hundred people, isn't that suspicious for a sponsored stream? Almost as if 50k was the mandated target number and she was boosted by bots to reach it...
>>27604913I believe it. It seems the viewership really connects with talents that speak the native language -- kinda obvious in retrospect. So unless the HoloID girls start pandering to their ID audiences (but potentially isolate their English audience in the process), Kobo's viewership will flock to rising ID talents instead of Hololive
>>27604900all the shit she said on the q&a was copypasta PR talk that other vshojos done as well when they joined, anon
>>27604961I hope the nijisanji boys are at least bi because this ammount of fujobaiting would be embarassing for any straight dude
>>27604961I hope StarsEN, if they pander to the female audience, don't do this yaoi clickbait
So, is Vox gonna raid Reimu to save her from beinig a 3-view?
>>27604961>10k likesbtw
>>27604939She WAS part of the reason she declined. Salami was just borrowing Pekora’s viewers +bot +debuts buff
Kiara's 3D stream today. Predictions on CCVs? How about total revenue?
>>27604753I'd say a bit of both. It just strikes me as unusual that VSJ would hire mike the way they did (completely new character, little to no backstory) while she's also being a yab magnet from JP antis and JP netizens in general.
>>27604961why this fag is not banned in china yet?
>>27604599Bronze boi...
>>27604860She's not that much of a huge im@sfag compared to Mito honestly, she's only a CG diehard and doesn't even talk about the unvoiced idols. She doesn't really give a shit about Shinym@s outside the shill streams either. She's working with Taku Inoue for MGO (also did 3:12), a known im@s composer, but I think you're thinking of ensemble stars.t. im@sfag hoshiyomi
>>27605010Salome numbers are always weird, I'm just glad she will not get the gold today.
>>27605010Her DbDM was also stuck at 40k peak
>>27604961That should be used as /sp/ banner
Who tunes into a stream at 45-60 minute range for a streamer who usually streams less than an hour? Who are these people?
>>27604229So she want to make vtuber scene just like EN livestream scene?
>>27604979> he doesn't watch her streams
>>27605101Bots
>>27604570T. cope
>>27605010no way, rikusama would never!
>>27604342>>27604873>I want to end Vtubing as a corporation by joining a Vtuber corporationThat sounds like something Senator Armstrong would sayThe main problem with what she's trying to convey is that Vshojo only accepts the top tier indies and doesn't give any opportunity to random shitters, besides she is showing that you can't make anything as an indie if even someone like her has failed. The other big corporations are a thousand times better. She knows this and isn't so retarded to actually believe what she says, but she's just expecting her audience is
Kobo +15K two days in a row.
>>27604229>So that there no difference between indie and corporation and in the end everybody has fun together.I've seen less dumb statements in Miss America "what is your goal for the future" questions
>id 3D debut>higher than gura 3d bdwhat do?
>>27604599King... Why...
>>27605014Kobo has been making lots of little content with the other IDs and trying to integrate them into her brat humor box they probably wont all inclince but if they spin out a kino arc some of them will get boosted by Kobo.
More bunny dumping images yeah.
>>27605045This pic will make a fine addition to my collection.
>>27605171laugh at chumkeks
>luxiem stream twice today>can't even reach 10kwhat happened?
>>2760505220k, lol
>>27605171if is in it maybe
>>27605037I know, i'm watching the stream, it's torture kino, like the guys like it, not so much his usual CN girls.His definitely culled, as the audience for this one is probably the same SEA and EN viewers as for the girls.
kneel salomeniggers
>>27605154Yeah is she gonna give funding and money and exposure for free to indies, the only way for that is actually dismantnling all corpos not joining one
>>27605200Do Vox and Mysta actually hate each other? i feel like they constantly overlap.
Just get ready, an EN vs JP timeloop is coming as soon as Salome ends her stream and Kiara's waiting room closes in on the 30 minute mark
>>27605200Bots are busy propping the shill stream
>>27605052I'm still guessing 28k nothing has changed.
>>27605146cope, holoEn is death
20:00jst data
>>27605010salome number being weird isn't the first case anon, that's why salome getting boted for IPO rrats came from
>>27605171Go to sleep seanig
Why are you posting about kson still? I thought it was obvious why she joined VshojoVshojo offers her money with reasonable termsKson accepts because she is a human beingWhy are people looking for a deeper meaning in this? Examining her psyche as if she's some kind of mastermind with a plan for global vtuber liberation?Real life is rarely that idealistic. Just take the simplest answer and apply it
>>27605227Really? Nijisis, we're better than this. There's no such thing as cull
>>2760505270k5m yen
>>27605052Guessing 30k since she got 20k on her birthday totsu and this is advertised as a 3D live, offset by the shitty time slot
>>27605154kekd
>>2760505230k and 3m jpy.
>>27605171Shit posting in their garbage thread for days.
Queen Usada, the Nijislayer!!!
Hour end record
>Salome ending>Nanto!50k it is.
>>27604229Either she is fucking delusional or she's just scamming retard paypigs. You can't do jack shit without big corpo backing up from behind. Indies have no quality control, there is a reason people mocking vshoujo for drama and low quality content.
Final /news/ roundup for 06-07-2022> Fauna, Mumei and Bae are together at the same place, planning an offcollab stream soon (https://youtu.be/X_8etn9l45U).).> FamilyMart broadcasting Mori's music until 11th July to promote her new Album (https://twitter.com/calliope_info/status/1544589907112640512).).> Salome sponsored to play Idolmaster Million Live (https://youtu.be/zw4L7nN0oxw).).Misc.> First ever 1-on-1 collab between Korone and Fubuki (https://youtu.be/-6xMbpbxuyc).).Previous : >>27540951slow day
>>2760505240k
>>27605288>Kson accepts because she is a human beingnah, she's a snake. yagoo really needs to unperson coco after that recent stream.
>>2760505225k
>>27605246sorry we are in kobo vs nijicn timeloop>>27604957>>27604747>>27604197
>>27605034do these two ever speak to each other again after the yab?
>All these delusional holobroniesThe orange woman won't even hit 15k
salomekeks awfully quiet right nowthat'll teach you to not get uppityPEKORA THE QUEEN
>>27605348> Salome sponsored to play Idolmaster Million Livehow the fuck is this news?
>>27605241both want that cn prime time money
Salamikeks status?
>>27605348thanks for the news as always, anon
I think it's the perfect time to deploy ENStars, or EN3 but I think EN3 will be later.
>>27605022Yeah true, but I would not be surprised if they actually fooled themsleves into believing it to some extent.
Yoshika 1k againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktel-4ykKlw
>>27605387sponsorships usually are.yesterday's Lui/Lap sponsor stream was recorded as well.
>>27605241There must be some 10 000 indies in the market having all the fun they are capable of having (while being poor) while there must be some (I'm exaggerating) some 500 streamers signed to corps in terms kson finds objectionable>with 150 of these being on Nijisanji and some 70 on Holo, again, exaggeratingShe could have just come out and said out loud>I want the following companies to not exist anymore: Anycolor, Cover, Brave Group, Sony branches (VERSEn, Vee, Phase Connect), Prism, MAHA5, ...>then the market will be free so indies can compete. Or maybe not because Vshojo would dominate the remaining of the market because they're not really a company, they're more like a family
>>27605344The goal for the sponsored stream was reaching 50k so she got it with the help of bots.
>>27605010I was told by this thread that sponsors don't give a shit about CCV and VODs are the best thing ever.
Silverome lmao
>>27605288because Kson fags are coping and trying to figure out why else she would join Vshojo other than for a piece of the $11 Million. Also why else would Miguel Gato even join too...... $$$.
where's the gold that was promised nijikek?
>>27605288>with a plan for global vtuber liberation?She quite literally said that was her goal
gacha + imas easy 60-80kreality is often disappointing
I have to confess, I didn't expect Pekora+Lap to hit 60k, even Marine and Shion didn't hit it and they have an actual history with each other.
>>27605052over 100k
Why doesn't Salome open membership?
>>27605280and then salty nijiniggers don't understand that and throw around bots like we throw around faggot because they think it's just an insult meant to trigger them
>>27605483Did even Rushia get that much?
A new victory requires a new shit edit, but today the victory belongs to the tag team.
Dunno if I should search for newer lewds of Pekora or continue farming in Holocure... Sana best talent to use for the lazy asses such as I
>>27605449Yeah, but Salome's VoDs will also be viewfarmed. You think Nijisanji will only bot one thing? Bots can cover every angle these days
>>27604599I STAND WITH KING
>>27605388also, both are british right? If that means anything
>>27605379Eh, I'd be cautious about low balling this. True Kiara isn't a big name, but she advertised her birthday incredibly well, got a lot of call-ins from Japan, conveyed her birthday to the Japanese fanbase, and scheduled it at a time to gobble up the HoloJP audience once they're done streaming. Plus it's a 3D concert and everyone watches that shitI feel 22k is a fitting number for a low ball, 40k for a high estimate
>>27605517kek
so, 51,079 is the number to beat today?
>>27605487It would have if it was streamed on Marine's channel instead of Shion's.
>>27605508Because she's in Nijisanji and she needs to wait for her Senpai to open them.Why Niji hasn't opened them since week 2, i do not know.
>>27605517BASEDKEK
>>27605559no
>>27605379>Numberfag thread>Taking Kiara seriously
>>27605517nice
>>27605559No? Salome slipped anon, she's silver
>>27605564pretty much this.
>>27605559What? it counts for 7th anon
>>27605559No Salmonella's numbers count for yesterday as she started at 23:00. Lost to bunny and Purple cunnies.
>>27605541no jp is gonna stay up to 1-2am jst just for her
>>27605559see pic related
>>27605541>22k low ballShe got 20k for the call ins. If she gets lower than 30k I will shit my pants.
>>27605426im inlove...
>>2760505230k, 35k is kneel worthy
>>27605559Why are nijifans like this.
>>27605596You're right. She's 10k tier at best, I shouldn't have estimated her so highly.
>>27605541I say 40k. Its known that EN will be on there too. 20k EN watchers and 20k holobox Japs is my guess
>>27605487Pekora Collabing with someone is a rare commodity, even more so than Marine streaming.
I just realized Salome managed to snag a sponsorship merely a month after her debut. Pretty great.
>>27605637In the middle of the week...
>>27605524There won't be an update for another 3 weeks anon. You'd have plenty of time farming later. I emptied out the shop just by running Mumei in stage mode for a few hours (3-4 runs) a day for a week.
>>27605517Anon is fun
>>27605449Depends on the sponsorIn the YT world, historically, sponsors look at view count and sub countSome have started looking at CCV
>>27605652Yeah, that's why I said low ball. Like doomer low ball posting
>>27605525holy fucking holocope
>>27605652capped
>>2760505220k , there's only 3k people waiting 1 hour before it starts
>>27605618I mean 6thdamn date format
>>27605566Speaking of her Senpai, any news on Amagase Muyu?>3 weeks agohasn't streamed in 3 weeks but she's still active on Twitter and is set to be in Nijisanji Radio in the next 3 months.IS it just her PC/home situation or something?
>>27605517based Peko taking Lapuchan under her wing and showing her how its done.
>>27605637I think you'd be surprised by how much people love 3D concerts and how degenerately some people who aren't on /vt/ watch Hololive
>>27605288>Why are people looking for a deeper meaning in this?Because she made a stream talking about her goals
>>27605716ccv is too retarded, as we see continuously. Any serious company would stay the fuck away from it for yt performance
>https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1544675513096093698?cxt=HHwWhICytb6M5e8qAAAA
>>27605508Because bots cannot be members and the scam would be obvious
>>27605706The best part about holocure is that once you clean out the upgrades or get everything 4/5 at the very least, you can just casually do a run or two a day and stockpile coins to max out the next banner. Free gacha is the future…
>>27605053VShojoJP has two goals right now1. Hire talent that would start 'hype-train'.2. Hire talent that can sell merch There aren't a lot of available JP talent they can hire that would be hype as fuck and that can sell merch at the same time, Mike is one of the few that does both.
Can any expert tell me what the heck happened to 774? Hiyocro is still doing decently (very good even, for their sub counts), but the rest excluding Met, Patra, Haneru have mostly fallen off a cliff.I'm sure Ran used to get up to and over 1k viewers sometimes. Now she's streaming to 100.
>>27605541Not to mention 3D is kiara speciality
>>27605828It's retarded on the viewer end, but from the streamer end it probably has the real numbers and superior analytics to whatever we can access
>>27605834>Editing is not fully doneThis ain't good
>kobo 15k getis this a buff game? I didn't even know the game exist
>>27605806> March 2022And she really want to save her friend
>>27605779another btw, didn't know the Nijisanji Radio was on the same channel as Suisei's and the Holo idol radio shows.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM9B5B7NjnO7z6uPXixMa7w/videos
Kiara BD expectations:>50k+ kneel territory (also gold contender)>40k+ success, time well spent>30k+ decent>30k or below: graduation announcement the next day
>>27605483Did she even touch the gacha?I only saw her looking through the menus and playing the rythm game.
>>27605602Wow this marks two weeks since Salome hasn't won gold.
kek>Kobo taking care of NijiEN upper tier>the rest of the girls dunking on Fulgur >Risu putting the boot on Reimu's throatAnyone taking bets on whether Reimu will catch a raid or two?
>Salome back to 50KBut I thought she was reclining and by this week she would be at 20-30K.What about this type of posts:>60K DORYAAA>50K DORYAAA>40K DORYAAA>30K DORYAAA (you are here)>20K DORYAAA>10K DORYAAAWere those holobronies cope after all?I was promised 20K Salome streams holotrannies, where are they?
>>27605920better prepare for graduation then.
You now remember all those anons who were bragging that Salami dethroned Pekora.
>>27605969Yeah Salome is the new Slip Queen
>>27605917AFAIK it's just a re-upload of A&G radio programhttps://www.joqr.co.jp/ag/
>>27605914I think almost all horror game is a buff for Kobo. Especially at night in ID time
>>27605899Kanauru is going to fucking die because of these women lmao. Why does he keep accepting these rush jobs?
Who won?
>>27605985SIlver queen gets silver, what's new about it?
>>27606015Pekorap
>>27605985she loststop coping
>>27606015usada pekora and laplus darkness
>>27606015PekoLapu
>>27605876Would have made more sense to just adopt a 800k channel than starting a completely new one if that's the case.Especially when all their active talents have all been just that
>>27605985Really, this cope? You were saying she would have 80k earlier and now you're saying she's not reclining because she only fell 30k short of your claims? lmao
>>27605985Tomorrow
>>27606015
>>27606030Where are the 20K streams, holofag? I was expecting them this week.
>>27604394The timecode
kiara delayed an hour...
>>27606015The true Numbers queen Pekora
>>27606066>Pick random Niji streamHere you go
>>27606088There goes any JP audience she might have gotten.
>>27605985You clearly don't follow the thread, it's just some idiot spam doryaa for both holo and niji, whoever got gold today.
This'll probably hit 10k eventually.A rare appearance for Karuta.Pretty sad for Mahiro. Losing her friends 1 by 1, in the year she decided to actually give this vtubing thing her all and was inclining.
>>27606116lmao. you have a higher chance of seeing 20 CCV than 20k if you do that.
>>27606088I mean she did say hours ago that it might have to be delayed. It was a warning given out
Well, I was expecting she could get 40k with some luck but now it's impossible
Salome last gold>14 days agoKuzuha last gold>22 days agoWHAT WENT WRONG?
/hlgg/ is a melting pot again. I really wonder why Cover refuse to invest more in EN after 2 years, even if they didn't expect them to do that good in the first place
>Salome is actually stabilizing at 40-50KWould that be this thread's worst nightmare?
>holobronies celebrating a collab stream over a single shill debuff streamhow the mighty have fallen
>JP MOGGED>VOD COPERS MOGGED
>>27606088Rip the Jap audience, they will go to bed instead. Im dropping my prediction from 40k to 25k
>>27606157Yeah. She won't even get 20k. Kiara should just graduate.
>>27605879They should have never taken Roberu’s poison D
>>27606168>events every dayHas there even been a normal day for them to compete?
>>27605508Don't think she talked about it but not all Niji open memberships. Mito doesn't have memberships either.
>>27606015The true vtuber queen, Begora
>>27606168holos came back from hiatus
>>27606152Hey I rated Niji very highly you know. They probably have a bunch of 20k stream I can useBut still, congratulation to Salome I guess, she found her footing and is now a worthy (the only one) rival to top Holos
>>27606169>/hlgg/What happened now?
>>27606215Holocure is not an event and took two golds
>>27606015preggolap
>>27606015>wepretty exciting race throughout the entire day.
>>27606215Like two days ago where the only event of the day was organized by an indie
>>27606244does /hlgg/ need a reason to be on fire?
>>27606244Kiara concert delayed and the same old "Cover is incompetent" discussion
>>27605985>spamming salami 80k and 90k >advance kneeling>got only 50k>Gets bullied>Cry about holobronies get fucked you fucking faggot
>>27606244Probably talking about Kiara's delay
>>27606177where's the gold nijikek?
>>27605541She has been advertising it but she's the myth runt for a reason - her advertisements haven't garnered that much attention:56k views <3 days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LgCFsmqbRg42k views <2 days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18fus6hvQs838k views <1 day ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hom5OIDSvUQ2.5k upvotes & 60 comments <3 days ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/vqsiho/kiara3dbirbday_countdown_day_1/1.5k upvotes & 25 comments <1 day ago: https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/vs980l/kiara3dbirbday_countdown_day_3_see_you_all/10k upvotes: https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1544513464357601280
>>27606177You don't want to play that game anon. I know you love Niji but please keep your obsession with Hololive in check
>Salamikeks trying to spin a slip after all their previous boasting.Pathetic
>>27606302tomorow
>>27606168Holo lineup is just too strong and deep
>>27606355Who graduating now?
>>27606177Imagine being this obsessed ruru
Hey guys, anon who thought Kiara would be 22k doomer bottom and 40k max. Seeing her set back her concert by one hour, I've adjusted to 20k doomer bottom, 35k maxThis has been your hourly autistic report
>>27606169Invest more how exactly? more gens?, regardless i'm pretty sure why they are slow in expanding there is because of the lack of local NA staff.
>>27605978Why are indos are always seething and measuring their microdicks at nijisanji? I admit I'm not the most longevous poster around here but I notice It's always ID vs NijiEN, Kobo NijiEN, Kobo Luxiem...What gives? Different demographics, literally unrelated to one another.
So why is Cover neglecting EN?
>>27606375mito
>>27606015Bunbuncha
>>27606309>#Kiara3DBirbday COUNTDOWN DAY 1>#Kiara3DBirbday COUNTDOWN DAY 2>#Kiara3DBirbday COUNTDOWN DAY 3She's almost as bad as NijiEN.
>>27606342People in here can tell you're making both posts, anon. Stop trying to farm for (You)s and go back to your thread.
>>27606406NIJISEETHE
Please thank Pekora for doing us a favor. Nothing from Hololive today would have beaten SalomeIt's a one-time thing though, she's not going to carry Hololive everyday
>>27606399More management and technical staff.
>>27606053Is there even an indie JP vtuber with 800k subs?
>no gold>alright guys, lets talk something elseGet fucked ruru
>>27606277also nijinig raid. lots of vox shillers and people talking about B2 numbers
>>27606169WTF is /hlgg/?
Kiara's 3D birthday is literally the reason the Myth offcollabs happened in the first place. If the people who showed up for those didn't turn up for this, that would be sort of sad.
>>27606168Salome is booked to snag gold for one month only (24 May - 23 June) pls andastd
>>27606399Literally just a studio they can use, don't even need that much staffs since they can do everything themselves
>>27606399An actual 3D studio for the girlsPush harder for travel visas into JPEstablishing relationships for potential collabs to bring up to their talentsThese are a few of the things Hololive could do. Not necessarily agreeing that they'd all be the right choice, but the EN management has been woefully unimpressive to me
>>27606406>Different demographicsI mean if we take that into account then it wouldnt be a horse race in EN anymore cause luxiem and noctyx has a different demographic
>>27606469lol
>>27606169Salose deflection post
>>27606182Were they really going to watch anyway?
>>27606309Anon these numbers don't mean anything. Please refer to Pekora getting 60-70k shorts for like an entire week straight leading up to her return, only for her to get 100k for her return stream and having like a fucking 40k median right nowKiara isn't going to meet that same success. No way in hell, but outside traction does not matter. What matters is having the word out there and who can show up to support
>>27606506KEK
>>27606493
>>27606495a studio is incredibly expensive, they would never make their money back
>>27606413I think even hololive girls would talk about this one.
>>27606363That used to be the brag point Nijisanji had back in the day, but it was pretty clear they were putting way too much pressure on the few at the top.They're clearly trying to make units, but it's just music groups that don't actually push the stream numbers up through the groups.What could Nijisanji JP do to match the push power of Holo, hell even to match NijiEN or VSPO in their field, and have a strong top group again?
>>27606496I don't think there's even management at all. If their head, Omega actually genuinely got fires then they might actually be in shamble right now until they found a new head
>>27606461That's my point actually they can't because there is probably a lack of good hires there, compared to their hometurf in JP and ID, instead we have omegay.
>>27606309She's been shilled by not just herself though, but the official twitter account and a bunch of JP girls.
>>27606551How much does a 3D studio cost? I could see an argument against providing NA one simply because they'd still have to travel across the continent to use it, whereas I'm sure the studio in Japan is considerably more accessible
>>27606551You are telling me Gura and Mori alone doesn't make enough money for a studio during the 2 years they are in Hololive?They will absolutely made their money back, they just don't do it, probably thinking it's too risky like you
>>27606422>Countdown for your birthday is now the same as countdown for 250k subsJust because Gura is too lazy to advertise her own birthday does not mean the other myth members are as lazy as her anon.Even Ina put more effort on advertising her return stream than Gura's on her 3D birthday one.
>>27606547Pls respong
>>27605985that's a lot of cope anon holy shit
>>27606570man, deron really used to be that high
>>27606659Dis why its called a timeloop.
>>2760608820k it is then
>>27606570Jesus christ, these are old CCVs? Not even trying to sound incendiary here, but Hololive mogged their turf
>>27606697(You)
>>27605834Why the fuck would you schedule something this big if it isn't even fucking rendered yet?
>>27606682I said almost.
>>27606681Yes, absolutely. Cover isn't a hollywood megacompany that can afford to buy a studio outside of Japan
>>27606449>she's not going to carry Hololive everydayIsn't that what she's been doing for the past two years?
>>27606495>>27606496Even if the cost is feasible and another factor like ID fanbase protest at favoritism is ignored, the lack of staffing should still be a problem, In JP and ID cover can recruit from idol and other weebs circle, meanwhile, NA has what? twitch circle?
>>27606625Is the staff have to be NA based? Does the staffs have to be close to the talent? I think the tech staff have to, but for the management itself can it be EU staffs?On that note, where do each HoloEN lives? I only know Kiara is in Austria and Sana and Bae is Aussie
>>27606709Haha yeah you right, this conversation has probably happened a thousand times already
>>27606422birthday is fair, at least kiara isn't celebrating 650k subs twice
>>27606399>>27606496Frankly, I think some kind of English equivalent to Hologra and more main channel content would be enough to make up a significant differenceIf there was an EN office and 3D studio where they could do concerts and other events, and or they moved closer together to do off collabs more often, then EN as a branch would incline greatly IMO
>>27606797Sana and Bae Australia, Irys and Mori (might chance in the future) in Japan, Kiara in EU, the others in NA
>>27606570I just realized even if Roa comes back she'll just be another 5k streamer.Or she could be Miko in the making?
>>27606422>they shouldn't advertise their birthdays>they shouldn't have birthday's stream at all>they should just not stream at all
>>27606704Nope, just Koshien buff.That was her best month ever, even stronger than her debut year, when she had the boy-is, screamer rocker girl market cornered.
>>27606422They aren't full streams anon, they're 30 second shorts
>>27606882Who are you quoting
>>27606853Yea anything to make the official channel less dead would be a good start (Hologra, gameshows, edited vids).
>>27606551This is just wrong. We had this discussion in previous threads, we concluded Cover could afford to dump a million+ dollars on it and make the cash back in a year even if they did nothing with it but rent it out
>>27606946Weren't they hiring content producers or animators or something for holo EN?
>>27606949>Cover could afford to dump a million+ dollarsi doubt that. cover doesn't have as much money as anykara.
>>27606570do you have the newest pic anon?
>>27606978Yea i think they were some time ago, and they also got the whole clip contest going at the moment, so hopefully things will start to pick up a bit.
>>27606949A proper studio is a lot more than a million
>>27606997Anykara has tens of millions yet they don't use them for overseas branch 3Ds
>>27606945that's pretty much what you are saying no?
>>27606770I mean there are days where she decided to stream some random ass kusoge she found and only got like 20k, leaving gold for someone else to grab
>>27606413Even as a holofag thinking about that kinda hurts.Before that eventually happens can her and Miko atleast have an erroge battle?
>>27606949> Cover could afford to dump a million+ dollars on it and make the cash back in a year even if they did nothing with it but rent it outPart of the discussion was how dumb that would be considering they could build it for much cheaper in Indonesia and benefit 13 out of that 20 girls that make for HoloEN and HoloID.Another line of discussion was how dumb it would be to build a top of the line studio just to rent it out to your direct competitors
>>27606946Knowing Cover, they're waiting for Myth to "officially debut" before they start releasing Hologra.
>>27607054I don't see any of that in my post.
>>27607033You're talking out of your ass. We had sources and everything posted that gave prices, a proper studio is 1 million as a maximum estimate, it's actually less. Staff to run the studio make up most of the ongoing costs
>>27606997Cover actually has quite a lot of money, but Yagoo said in a interview that they are saving it for when the market takes a downturn and they still have to support their talents/staff.
>>27607085>considering they could build it for much cheaper in IndonesiaWouldn't that be dangerous, or having Reine there offsets the risks?
>>27606997There's no way a big corpo don't have at least 1 million at their disposal wtf? Do you listen to yourself?Or maybe this is just a Niji shill post?
How the fuck does a 3D live get delayed an hour? Chicken you fucking retard.
>>27607106this is why riku is one of the 50 richest men in japan and yagoo is a nobody.
>>27606797Cover requires EVERYONE (except talents) to be based in Tokyo.
Just fly them to Japan once a year to record 3D content for a year. They can have JP offcollab as bonus
>>27607156Overworked sea dog they make do everything
>>27607156Kanaeru had to work for 70 hours straight and passed out in his chair covered in vomit, please understand
people in here really are looking at making a studio like its a video game or something...they will have to pay for a bunch of shit to keep the thing going. utilities, cleaners, staffs salary who will want to be paid even during months where the 11 talents are not doing any 3D events...and thats besides the EN girls being spread out in the world.
>>27607163>Talk about company>Muh CEOThose are 2 different subjects
>>27606570I used to rule the world....
>>27607102Where are your sources then?
>>27607180>They can have JP offcollab as bonusPretty surue Gura will end up traumatized because she can't into elevenese and would refuse to ever get near a JP again.
>>27607163Baffling post
>>27607106Source?
>>27607220Just use Kiara as translatorOr InaOr MoriOr Anya
>>27606978>Weren't they hiring content producers or animators or something for holo EN?They still are
>>27607219Here >>27208356 Go do your archive reps
>>27607163Retarded post
>>27607085An ID studio makes a lot of sense, but there are still some downsides. It's a longer flight from NA/EU to there than to JP, and internet might be spotty>>27607156Kanaeru is a machine, but he can only work so fast
Kiara this timeslot.. It caters to literally no one, though I suppose it is not terrible for anyone either. It's the middle of the workday in NA. Should she have just made it NA primetime?
>>27607163Riki richest? Why niji have shit 2D and L2D, and why KR,IN,ID don't have 3D when he is rich?Because mini black company, their talent money goes to riku
>>27607132>build a multi million dollar 3D studio in the states>a week later some nigger got killed by a cop 3 blocks down>zero return of investmentJust go to or wait for JP, the ID girls literally have no problem with this, and they are more senior than the EN girls
>>27607194Not to mention formally filing taxes in america as a business instead of just online overseas operator and accounting and compliance. Although its not surprising neets in a number thread dont know shit.
>>27607132>Wouldn't that be dangerousPeople like to dunk on NijiID for the type of numbers they get but their management structure there was top notch, securing sponsorship, deals, organizing parties with live DJs and getting as much numbers as their local grown vtuber agency (MAHA5), all of that without pandering to either EN or JP audiences. Indonesia is a mature market for weeb stuff and Anycolor is managed by complete retards for their decision to close ID too as they were closing KR (for gross incompetence of their management).
>>27607312I bet she want to have as little overlap as possible and so she chose this empty hour
>>27607163Oh hey, I've seen this post thrice already
>>27607326Yeah, forgot about Clapistan's everything.>>27607337I mean, the physical location.
>>27607326This is the problem. With that as the solution the EN branch really is fucking dead. They will never incline if they aren't given actual fucking support, having them fly once every two years to do one 3D is fucking hopeless
>>27607354Overlap with who? The rest of EN regularly leaves gaping holes in the schedule as it is
>>27607354>overlap>holoenNeedless worry rumao
>>27607300> It's a longer flight from NA/EUIt’s a shorter flight from Australia, Indonesia and JP tho, where 4 EN and 9 ID live right now, along with all of the JP 3D staff
>>27607394>>27607393Well it's Kiara...
I see there is retarded timeloops going on so I guess there's nothing happening?
>>27607418Why would ENs living in Japan fly to Indonesia? They would just record it in Japan. The point of an EN office is for talents living far outside of Japan.
>>27607156chiken is fucking kaneru
Interrupting the heated discussion a bit to say how much Noel inclined. She is streaming to 14k right now as we speak at midnightFlare also inclined considerably (Still the runt of Sankisei though)
>>27607387ID managed to incline with more or less the same support. Why can't the EN girls do it? It's no excuse for their underperformance. A 3d studio won't make Gura/Sana/Kronii stream more than 3 times a week.
>>27607385>I mean, the physical location.People like to talk about the third world as if it was some sort of hell on earth and it is>but just for the poorWasn’t kson gloating about how Vshojo had her with bullet proof donned gunntotting bodyguards 24/7 during her AX visit?
>>27607337Top notch at doing everything but actually making their vtubers popular in the Indonesian market or any market. Sometimes people can be diligent and talented and still not accomplish anything of note, unfortunately. One of the reasons people overrate how important management is in vtubing. It's very much based on individual skill and luck, and success papers over a lot of problems including subpar management.
>>27606496>An actual 3D studio for the girlsAnd how do you expect them to do that, anon?
>>27607474>Why would ENs living in Japan fly to Indonesia? They would just record it in Japan. To be able to rehearse and record the song and dance routine together with the people in their lives?
>>27607474And 9 are already in indonesia while every other country aside from Japan has at most two? Plus they can have actual political backing in indogland
>>27607312She can rely on VOD numbers
>>27607474To meet the other ENs who go there to avoid jap border autism
>>27607194true, that's why its probably better if the girls(ame) have their own set up and get cover to help with the costs.
I can't believe Cover fucking HATES EN because they're not making 3D studios for 9 talents that are in NA, Korea, Australia and Austria.
>>27606570I am a newfag but this kinda hit me hard
>>27607542It’s not that I disagree but they had a good structure running there. What they lacked was1) a more sensible debut strategy by their HQ. How many ID waves they debuted? 6 or 7 IIRC2) luck of the draw. Has Hana accepted the role Lady Luck dumped at her lap they could have been the original “Coco / Haachama” to Nijisanji western expansion
>>27607668Who's in Corea?
>>27606570>NijiENStop. It's Niji"CN"
>pekora 60,281>salome 51,079
The biggest boon of an ID studio is that you won't have to deal with US customs. I'm pretty sure everyone can just walk in to Indonesia.
>>27607492Noel has always had really decent numbers, but she's been overshadowed all her career by Marine and Pekora because they are the top 2 holomembers and both of them are from her same generation.
>>27607582Lol it will be clipped to death
What sort of numbers will Roa get when she returns in 3 years?
>>27606570>They're clearly trying to make units, but it's just music groups that don't actually push the stream numbers up through the groups.Their groups are to push the *revenue* up, not the stream numbers.Lots of group merch, tickets and albums to sell to care about a pesky thing like "live streaming"
Litterally peaks within 5 minutes and then just starts hemorrhaging viewers once they find out what he is doing.
>>27607697I thought Kronii lives there but I actually have no idea where she is I never watch her.
>>27607830>I thought Kronii lives thereAnon, plz, your basic bitch clip repshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbhrsbfbaxU
>>27607830Kronii lives in Canada.
>>27607697no one.ina and kronii are in canadagura, ame, fauna, and mumei are in NAkiara is in EUbae and sana are in australia
>>27606570>>27607015NTA. Here is May.
>kiara ended up delaying into eu primetimeSilver lining
>>27607880And IRyS and Calli in Japan. All of ID in Indonesia. All of JP in Japan
>>27607792>I'm pretty sure everyone can just walk in to Indonesia.Sure, just have to pay the airtport security guy some extra meal and cig money
>>27607910wow, that's a lot of 5k+ chuubas. niji is doing really well.
>>27607927didn't mention mori and irys since they are able to use the jp studio without any issues
>>27607910Does any anon have the full set of those? I likely can do the Holo equivalent and automate it in a way they can be put side by side
is this niji's biggest month? 08-2021
>>27606422These aren't streams you retard they're 30 second notifications
>>27607927>All of JP in JapanAnya is in Indonesia
>>27607385What is wrong with the studio located in Indonesia? Why do you think that it's gonna be dangerous?
>>27607164id staff doesn't i think. I remember id gen 1 members said m-chan was with them at their dorm
To people disputing the viability of setting up an ID studio and office instead of an EN office and studio; consider the fact that the amount of money it would cost to set up a fully functional 3D studio to their JP standards in America, most likely Los Angeles if we're being honest with how dumb Cover can be, they could probably buy an entire apartment block in IN and massively streamline all their operations there.Like, if you could drop millions dollars setting up in the United States or in Indonesia, where you theoretically might have actual connections to local government as well, which route would you take?
>>27607787Imagine Salome casually walking toward the gold medal then suddenly Pekora grab her from the back and say "Sorry but not today peko"
>>27607956>without any issuesExcept, of course, if they want to collab with their branch mates.Did you guys miss the amazing live live that AZKi just pulled out? Even the pre recorded ones are exceptional, but the reason they work is because>the girls rehearse together>the girls record together
>>27607823Wonder why he decided to play soccer of all things.
>>27607823all his bait thumbnails have the same effect idk why he keep doing it
>>27607955>>27607984Putting it next to Holo's chart would really highlight Niji's massive fucking tail.
>>27608013holy kek, I love your edits bro
>>27606530enough would that delaying it from 1 in the morning to 2 in the morning would take a serious chunk out of the numbersAnd the worst part of it is that it doesn't even put it in EU prime time, it just makes the shitty timeslot even more shitty
>>27607914Das ist prima! Jetzt ich kann die henne sehen! Wunderbar!
>>27607569Add to that there are many indog vtuber groups that are probably in Jakarta anyway. They can price their studio for them as well. It wont be as profitable as JP but it will still produce income when holoID isnt doing anything with it.
>>27608021Cover would be better off making a Hawaii or Indonesian studio long term then one stateside although I'm sure it would be pricey up front it would have high rent return and allow all branches to do 3d collab and excite them and serve as the corporate vacation.
>>27607823Shameless clickbait in action. Totally trick people with the thumbnail and the stream name so you can hit a somewhat respectable peak before they all leave once they find out the stream has nothing to do with what you are implying.
>>27607984how new are you, one of the chart anons does it monthly
>>27608013KEK
>>27608111With that Niji format? it comes from JP, it can't possibly come from this board.I am familiar with the anon that makes the local version
>>27608093I cannot even begin to imagine how fucking expensive it would be to set up a full on 3D studio in fucking HAWAII of all places.
>>27608013KEK this is fucking great
>Kiara's 3D birthday delayed by an hourThis is almost like Gura's one...predict the suff.
>>27608093Hawaii is dumb as fuck. Just to it in Jakarta or something
>>27606570>>27607910I'm only now realizing a bunch of anime fan arts I see on twitter was actually a bunch of NijiJP talents I just never heard of before. You telling me all those sexy nurse arts was actually a vtuber?
>>27608021ID would probably be better seeing how weeb culture is more widespread with generations.
>>27607914>12PM EST>EU primetimeu wot
50 sub gift around 20K yen, which one better SC or gift membership?
Tomorrow's goldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_fahdypji8
>>27608153The same real estate prices as LA except slightly better taxes and regulations and easier to serve JP/ID >>27608200ID is certainly the best option on ROI but maybe Cover is too old fashioned to try.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_fahdypji8Todays Gold just landed.
>>27608021What would be the point of paying that much money to invest in Indonesia? After you have an office space, staff, and 3D equipment, what are you even spending money on besides paying for their upkeep
>>27608220Most of them are only good as onaholes, so keep living your life.
>>27608288
>>27608291>>27608300its not fair holobronies...
Kiara BD >JP sleep>NA work Why tf she choose this timeslot ????
>>27608291>>27608300>PekoNoel competition>GamblingYup
>>27608288Gift memberships unless the SC is something that causes a good clippable moment.
>>27607914Nah it was not Kiara...it was Coverhttps://twitter.com/holopro_EN/status/1544709851929927680>Watch as they use Kiara 3D concert to drop EN3
The way I see it the sperg out about Gura not announcing a 3d birthday is retroactively unjustifiedShe said kanauru worked on the video till the very last moment, so it made sense for her to prepare for the inevitability that it may never even happen on that day. And now we see kiara crashing and burning because her hyped birthday is running into this exact problemGomen same chan, and fuck you cover Corp
>>27608366>8k waiting
>>27608366Euro hoursAt least pushing it back one hour puts it into prime time for most euros
>>27608288In terms of revenue, I think they have the same YT cut. For users, membership is better since it provides benefits for a monthI have ~50 memberships total, about half expired, since I use them like green supas
>>27608366It's her usual timeslot, she doesn't want to "betray" her fans even if she could get more tourists during JP prime time
>>27608220>He didn't knowNiji girls are still famous for having a higher % of lewd art than most Holos.
>>27608291She took the "Salomi is the new queen" personally.
>>27608291>>27608300Noel will probably have a POV too, no? So I wouldn't be so sure it will get gold, unless it's a really anemic day otherwise that Pekora's POV gets it
>>27608366It's within her usual streaming slot, and yes it's really bad.
Gotta say, out of the homos I only watch Astel and Roberu but this clip of Oga made me think maybe these lads have something going for them and all they miss is luckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj3eJzz7ESINice voice, little dead air, play decently enough, sincere in their knowledge about the girls.Roberu (and Astel, when he's not melting and having menhera attacks) is paving a nice way out for them to grow outside their non existent box, I hope they figure this one out.For the to grow, before anything else, the first thing they have to do is>TO DUMP THE HOMOBEGGAR AUDIENCEIt work for Aki, to dump that reddit saviourfag audience that ended up killing her homegrown JP audience and natural incline
>>27608021What? Do you think Indonesia can't handle million dollars of investments? Indonesia is currently on a foreign investment spree in the last few years, with $30B of investment last year in the middle of the pandemic. If you're a foreign investor wanting to invest, the government will give you a red carpet and will make things easier like bureaucracy and they will stomp any extortion from smaller institutions. You might still have to pay some bribes, but it will be nothing compared to the benefits from low wages and low rent.Indonesia is not a messed up place like it used to be, like what you've heard in media. Things are progressing fast.
>>27608288Membership gifting in theory, because some tourists get giffted and check the member contents, they might like it and continue being members
>>27608425Neck thyself, falseflagger.
>>27608300https://youtu.be/uwFXhYW4n58
>>27608291What the fuck Pekora please let others carry Hololive too...
>>27608481Roberu have gotten succes by getting into the Tamaki circle and Astel have gotten some growth from the Fps box. Think the same would be the way forward for the rest.
>>27608482>Indonesia is currently on a foreign investment spree in the last few years, with $30B of investment last year in the middle of the pandemic. If you're a foreign investor wanting to invest, the government will giv-kek, never thought I would run into government foreign investment outreach agents in this site and board and thread
>>27608481>It work for Aki, to dump that reddit saviourfag audience that ended up killing her homegrown JP audience and natural inclinethe fuck are you talking about, to this very day the reddit saviorfagging audience still forms the core of Aki's dedicated auidence
>>27608254I mean EU is a pretty damn large so he's not wrong depending on which country. 6pm if you're in the UK but 8pm if you live somewhere in Finland or Romania
>>27608481If you are top tier in Japan, pandering to EOPs will destroy you, but if you are a shitter, pandering to EOPs works as a good pump and dump strategy, just get some EOPs to saviourfag you, once you get some incline you'll get JOPs' attention and then you forget about the EOPs that would forget about you in a few months anyway
>>27608530Yea, the only annoying thing about gifting is we have no way to know what currency is being used.
>>27608288who did he gave this? I missed it
>>27608320I already said it in my post: Buy a fucking apartment block, to host talent in so you can smoothly provide accommodations for them when they're coming and going. Pay for server farms, Cover will need them for their video game anyway. All of this is better off done in ID>>27608482The point is less that ID is a shithole and more that America is a shithole. Specifically Los Angeles which is where Cover would likely set up if they did go for an EN office, money just goes farther anywhere else compared to LA. Like, I can say the shit you can buy in ID would cost 30x as much in LA, and I might barely be exaggerating, it's fucking stupid
>>27608481Reddit unironically stopped her from quitting.
>>27608586It's number thread after all
>>27608013kys holobrony
>>27608366>Why did the Euro pick a Euro time slot???Isn't this what you guys wanted? More Holos around the world covering each time zone, why bitch now?
>>27608568well the others have failed, that's why pekora had to end her break early
>>27608600Maybe he's a retard and was talking about towa. Aki would not be here without her savior fags and she loves them dearly, no dumping happened. She's the one example of reddit actually doing good(though I contest the idea that it was just reddit, lots of EOPs saw that clip an enever touched the hololive sub)
>>27608718nijiseethe
>>27608632The people gifting are usually regulars that have sent SCs. It's not perfect, but it's probably mostly accurate.
>>27608618This. EN was a mistake which is dragging the entire company down. Nothing good has ever come from them
>>27608746QRD about Aki's saviour fags?
>>27608618What is "pandering" anon?
>>27608834Even acknowledging your existence is more than you deserve, EoP
>>27608785Stop larping.
>>27607986>>27607910wtf happened with Lain? 18k>1k shit tier?!
Sometimes nijifags really needs a wakeup call. Nijisanji is not relevant anymore. Hololive, for the last year, had been getting 10+ 10k streams every day.
>>27608300>gambling streamlol thats a debuff if anything
>>27607668Or just put a studio in a country that isn't xenophobic and willing to use whatever excuse to keep foreigners out.
Filian inclining.
30/35 of today's unfiltered top streams are cryptoscams or some weird also obviously botted tennis shitwhat the actual fuck are you doing susan
>>27608891most nijis are shitters. 1-2k is pretty strong by their standards.
I don't think they will invest in 3D in Indonesia until ID2 get their 3D at least.Or until Moona and Iofi finish their college stuff to be full time talent. I don't know if Risu is still in college or not.
>>27608220Yes, helps that Sukoya Kana was an irl med student.She's a good vtuber overall, might even been a strong mid tier organizer, but took 9 months off and her friend group has been falling apart. Even some of the ID and KRs she was collabing with left or fell off.Ninisanji had more "job" oriented keyfab for a while.
>>27608941sportshit is rarely botted unless its boreball
>>27608600>to this very day the reddit saviorfagging audience still forms the core of Aki's dedicated auidencedo you beleb? I checked her last ARK stream at random second and this is the result.
>>27608941b-but expert numberniggers said bots is j-just c-cope!
>>27608940Her YouTube channel is almost in the top 100 too. She passed Lui, and is about to pass Fauna, Bae and Iroha.
>>27608891Debut buff wore off.
KING NNOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>276090184 streams with identical titles and the same views...sure.
>>27608482Anon Indonesia can handle millions of dollars in investments, but in America you probably can't even rent an office space for anything less than 10 million
Miko shilling HoloError
Can't believe Pekora actually addressed the cold chicken thing on stream.Even dragged Lap into admitting that she was fighting with antis on 5ch.
>>27608914Last time Pekora beat Salome with gachaDon't mess with the gambling queen herself, she will pay for her numbers
>>27608600>the fuck are you talking about, to this very day the reddit saviorfagging audience still forms the core of Aki's dedicated auidence>>27608669>Reddit unironically stopped her from quitting.FOR FUCK SAKE, you guys must only have the "and the princess lived happily ever after" book end of the story, otherwise you can't possibly believe that the audience she picked up and stick with her outnumbered the audience she lost because she had a shift in content style to pander to the new audience.Let me illustrate that with a chart, here is her subs growth as compared to Mel, you can do the same at https://trackholo.live/en/With that glut of self important saviourfags that "prevented her from quitting" (something she never said she would) came a shift in her content: she had to accomodate the newly onboarded EOP and that changed her content style and miffed the audience that stuck with her through thick and thin and many of those simply felt left out and went away.It also hurt her local outreach and, when the redditfags felt their job was done, and when HoloEN debuted, they just bailed and left her to hang.That "200k subs miracle" put her ahead of mel, as the chart shows, but then Mel (which was not even streaming that frequently) in no time overtook her never to be touched again.Reddit did more harm that good with that one, they just didn't stick after the movie credits to see what really happened
>>27608795Ledditors EOPs who bumped her subscriber count when her mental health was at her lowest. 95% of them fucked up a few days afterwards but some of them stayed, and more and more of them came to watch her afterwards. She easily has the fanbase with the most EOPs compared to her amount of subs/usual CCVs.
>>27609057wait those arent official streams? nevermind then
>>27609096>cold chicken thingWhat was it?
>>27609062That's why all the m dia companies moved to Georgia.Cheaper and has tax insensitives.
>>27609031Anon, Ark is pretty filtering as an EOP. Ako is dear, but I can't put myself through another ARK arc this year. I was watching the Acoustic Live though.
>>27609031anon even in that screenshot you can see the longtime members with english names
>>27609096She was never the type to run away from antis, especially consider her past
>>27608718>he think salome could get the gold todayBHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>27609072>Miko had more ccv than the latest HoloError has viewsWhat went wrong?
One more Kobo stream, she really wants the 1 million
>>27609018the "79k" one has 64k vod views after 21 hours lol
>>27609031The longtime EoPs became able to type in Japanese, you shouldn't doubt their dedication to saviorfagging, they aren't like you or I
>midnight and sleepy>still wanted to watch kiwawa out of a little support even tho i never watched her>she moved her timeslot even though it's prerecordedwhy the fuck is she like this?
>>27609154>I was watching the Acoustic Live though.That was kino
>>27608617>Finland or Romania>matteringOnly one that matters I think would be +2 and two hours before, and that only makes it 7PM. Prime time is somewhat at 9PM.
>>27609134Fucked off*https://youtu.be/PkRs87tG7sEhttps://youtu.be/3dLHc40dhc4https://youtu.be/sSiSg1nXpy0One of the few things *eddit should be proud of.
>>27609160>Japanese can't use english namesHere's a secret for ya, some Japs are using english names because they think it makes them more noticeable.
>>27607792Well, Indonesia has really strict drug laws. Not sure if Calli on all that lean could get in...
>>27609247See >>27609133, it felt good but didn't help her as much as you would believe
>>27609224That or they lurk because they know stuffing the chat full of english is a detriment and stick to Grass or simple phrases that you can look up real quick.
>>27609276so you'd rather think that those are japs larping and not Eops who learnt nip after sticking around for two years?
>>27609280>Cover decides to make the 3D in Jakarta>Reine PMC providing security, everyone safe>fast forward a few weeks>Mori detained for illegal lean
>>27609096remember when she btfo that vocaloidP and thanked him for free PR
>>27609245Prime time is 8~11 pm. Being 1 hour off is not that big of a deal.
>>27609211It's more like she fills her free time with valorant. And might as well stream it. It also fits the rrat that she's on school holiday so she can still play this late
>>27609031>>27609276Stop being retarded, just check Hololyzer and you'll see she's one of the JP members with the highest rate of english comments and a lot of EOPs don't even comment in JP streams
>>27609133>>27609282anon that chart doesn't prove what you think it does, if it was true that the reddit saviourfags abandoned her after holoEn came out we would've seen a crash in numbers in the middle of september, but the slowdown came after christmasMore to the point there's a finite amount of reddit saviourfags and I don't see how aki's subgrowth failing to keep going on the same trajectory is somehow reflective that saviourfags don't exist
>>27609356Both options can be valid you know.
>>27608481anon there's no dead air because it's a FUCKING CLIP
>>27609280>>27609358Why the fuck you guys keep thinking of the worst scenario for? Having a 3D studio not gonna danger anyone's life
>>27609181>he thinkForget Hololive vs. Nijisanji or Pekora vs. Gura, Kobokeks vs. English is truly the greatest rivalry in /#/ history
>>27609139Said she would stream for us during Christmas, didn't do so and told us she went to the hospital for her ears (she did say she had a problem a few days before that). At Christmas Japanese tend to eat KFC food as a tradition, so cold chicken came from here. There was also the 6hours of sex thingy that was shared at that time, but only cold chicken stayed for the antis(some Juntard even created a Vtuber avatar especially for that, with にんしん〜!にんしん〜!as an intro(meaning having sex in short) (type 性の6時間 for more info).
>>27608013
>>27609366qrd?
Kobo single-handedly streams more than all of HoloEN.
>>27608746r/hololive was just proto-/vt/ at a time when there was only ever 1 or 2 threads about Hololive on /jp/ and 'discussion' was essentially screaming into the void.
>>27608408>DeletedThat is why you screen cap it and post the image. This is a fucking image board after all.
>>27609428Of course not, but Mori's retardation endanger herself.Although, with Cover's ins to the local government and money, she'll probably get away with it again.
>>27609428Unless there's drug involved. Indonesia is very strict on drugs.
>>27609483>mogged so hard by ID they start HoloID v HoloENkek, flips posted this
every time i just log into /#/ after tally, there's always a holo EN vs other branch lol
>>27609519Nah, just have someone be her minder for the entire duration she's there. Kiara would be happy to do it, though Reine would likely prefer to monopolize Kiara's time instead
>>27609415true, ergo I choose to believe the version that supports my narrative
>>27609457https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmBAmFOJl_E
>>27609031>ArkArk tourists are their own breed, even when she was bottom of Holo for numbers, she could get 4-6k just for Ark streams summer of 2020.
Mashiro made a new channel.Gensho Yasuda, the channel in 2nd, is still growing. I looked at it, and it's some sort of 3D animated shorts channel.Rakkun made a YouTube shorts cover of a Justin Bieber song in 5 languages that went viral.
>>27609436nah the cold chicken was from some 5ch anon who had Chicken fries ready to eat while watching Pekora stream, but she never streamed... and so the chicken became cold...etc.
>>27608013Should've used Pekora with the nousagi laughing face instead, but great edit man
>>27609436にんしん means 'pregnant' btw
I think Kiara expects all the JP members to stop streaming for her
>>27609598If there's anything I learned on this site is that one autist will post for hours every day the same thing incessantly for years. ACK still to this day has probably racked up hundreds of thousands of angry schizo spam posts and keeps going as will JPvsEN schizo and nijintern.
>>27609167Both of them also addressed how frustrating it was to not be able to reply to people spewing blatant bullshit.I'm glad that managers are keeping them in line because by god that would be a catastrophe and a half.
>>27609408My point is not just that the EOP audience immediately defected her en mass (they didn't, anon is right when he says she picked up even some more of them along the say).My point is that it forced a shift in her content style in those crucial months and it hurt her growth with her local audience (nips), an audience which massively expanded for the other girls due to many reasons.A similar thing happened with Haachama. She grew fast as fuck due to chinkout and her interactions with EN (and her HoloEN0 tag) but with enough time what actually happaned was Haachama losing her grasp on the Japanese audience, and the arrival of Council put her into a downward spiral (which she amplified with her hiatus)
>>27609640>Mashiro made a new channel.DON'T DO IT!
>>27609707Rushia just needed to listen to the managers too.
>>27604197INDOCHADS?
>>27609133>Uses Yozora Mel as comparisons>30+% kaigai fanbase too >Most collabs with kaigai branches in HoloJP next to RobocoYou not only don't know how to use numbers, you don't watch streams.
>>27609788Do what?
Kobo! Stop streaming!Vox-sama is already dead
>>27609668rrat: Management told them to keep streaming to hold the viewers and release the funnel when Kiara starts the stream
>>27609495/hlgg/ on /jp/ was ridiculously active from the start (early 2020) getting 2k posts per thread and the archives were>hololive (2k posts)>hololive (2k posts)>Reimu thread (32 posts)>hololive (2k posts)>hololive (2k posts)>.....Like 90%+ of /jp/ posts were made on /hlg/ with something like 50+ ppm for the thread while the whole board had 54ppm
>>27609788too late
>Only 10k waiting room for a stream that's been delayed an hourKiara...
>>27609836
btw is that konpako cold chickens vtuber still active??
Do we have to consider the realistic possibility that eventually Kobo will pass Gura, given she's 1/4th of the way there in 4 months and we have no idea what the market cap is in Indonesia?
good question.
>>27604197INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING
>>27609640Isn't that ban evasion? You can't just create a new channel after getting banned.
>>27608718> anon can't into bantzSad!
>>27609810you called ?shitposting aside kaela got doxxed, no wonders there's so many kaela post in catalog
>>27609868Kiara busy calling gura to retweet the stream
>>27609908Nijisanji doesn't care about rules lol
>>27609408>After Christmas 2020When the first big viewer cull was implemented which disproportionately affected those with international audiences.See, now we're using information.
>>27609031>They have become japanese
>>27609891Too lazy to check but she did upload a bunch of actual contentsI remember laughing at how powerful Pekora anti was back then. They spend actual MONEYon a Vtuber model just to spite her
>>27609897Don't post your own comments here.
>>27609891Last time I saw him active he was making fun of the Green whore with the wedding ring
>>27609896She will slow down around 2-3 mil then it depends if vtubers truly go mainstream in Indonesia, although Gura has reclined she still maintains a slow and steady sub growth.
>>27609868She's not even going to hit 20k. I'm already disappointed, what a complete failure
>>27609815>>27609864JUST DON'T!
>>27609836Yeah, which is why 'discussion' wasn't really something that could happen there.Which is why most newfags who wanted to talk about chuubas went straight to reddit.Holo subreddit's recline was after /vt/ started.
>>27609836but...the 2hus...
>>27609897>Talent from other agenciesWhat talent?
>>27604197WHERE ARE MY FELLOW INDOCHADS???
>>27609889aieeeeeeee not the 2hus...
>>27609918How did that happen?
>>27608876Consider necking yourself, retard. Go bait for (You)s in some other thread.
>>27609897who?
kobo start another stream, kid on holiday sure have no limits
>>27609908Who going to report? Hololive fans are chill.
>>27609997
>>27609908Loopholes. If your personal account gets banned permanently, you can't create another one by yourself. You still can ask someone else to do it for you, then ask them to give you the channel afterwards. Anycolor likely did the same thing.
>>27608914>Newfag that wasn't around for any of the PekoraxNoel rivalry>Retard that doesn't know JP are desperate gambling addicts. There is no hope for you.
>>27609897That is the JP Holo job. EN need not apply
>>27609897It's not a competition.
>>27609908>>27610045>Who going to report? Hololive fans are chill.EXACTLY! You guys don't want people to confuse you with those wretched villains of the JunsGang, do you?
>>27610014They have information on which game she's playing, and by using rrat that she used to belong in an esport team, they just have to look for female Indonesian esport player and compare the voices
>>27610068Management creates all the channels then links the Anycolor network.All completely fine by YouTube.
>>27610045Trap haters
>>27610114It's an all out war-/b/omu
>>27610034Kiara is seething
yesss blue women saves the day again
>>27609976>>27609982>>27609891Ahahaha they even made A discomunication Alien cover!!https://youtu.be/Y6xOGF_bVYMhttps://youtube.com/channel/UCdqAtQIxcWJ8P11Kkez0RFw
>>27610068It's how Keemstar keeps dodging bans. He never technically creates the accounts.
>>27609896No, we have not because it's stupid, she's not even matching Gura's original speed. Growth isn't infinite and right now Indos are rushing her to 1 million, like Salome got rushed there.
Have you ever thought of how much worse the entire board would get if EN3 debuted and it caused a new wave of growth in the EN market, bringing in thousands of newfags?
>>27610140Maybe she will gain some boost now.
>>27610181>3 blue womanlets top each region>2 are autistic spergs and 1 is a dirty bratIf only Kobo could get the spergs to collab
>>27609897Yeah Yagoo are you poisoning Akio air members or what? We gotta sabotage here
>>27610194Yeah like I said, even Pekora anti is really committed to her>"My antis are just my future fan"
>>27608466Pekora's POV of the same thing a year ago got 50k
>>27610230If she's cute yes. If not..
>>27609133Good lord you're a stupidshit, anon.
>>27610205No because I don't regard this board as having any quality whatsoever.
>>27609889To be fair, we were pretty polite there at the time.Didn't create unnecessary threads besides hlg and hlgg, avoids 10+ threads after one got archived. Also has relatively contained Holo discussions on those 2 threads.Doesn't stop the regulars from bitching about it every chance they got however.
>>27609896This only happens if Gura pretty much stops gaining subs and Kobo either stays at her current rate or goes higher for a year. Seems like a pretty big ask.
>>27610205it absolutely can't get any worse, and EN3 is not going to cause any growth at all anyway
>>27609133You don't even know about the 2020 cull you mongoloid
>>27610390>it absolutely can't get any worsewould you bet your balls on it?
>>27610181imagine these three collabing
>>27610122You say that when this thread has unironically mass-reported Niji streams multiple times before.
>>27609721What a shitty assessment of Haachama.
>>27609908You are free to report it
>>27610205I'd rather have new people and new growth in the vtuber field than slowly dying while the same people endless circlejerk each other into oblivion.
>>27610321dunno about you anon, I see the doxx and for me she's cute
>>27609896That's like saying that Rwanda might eventually surpass the United states based on thier current economic growth. It might happen but we are not even close to seeing it, and thinking that present conditions will continue indefinitely is why we have like 8 gura killers who are now dead in the water
>>27610390If EN3 is october and someone in cover had half a brain they could get a decent hype campaign going but knowing cover they will drop in the last week of July unannounced and any new audience would be confused to see new vtubers a month after they debut in clips.
>>27610419Was there any sub cull that affected Aki but not Mel?
>>27610277B-but muh vox nendo...
>>27610348It was during the war that /hlg/ started making thread uncontrollably and the meido have to actually make a board for themOf course /hlg/ refuse to move
>>27610434??
>>27610390>EN3 is not going to cause any growth at all anywayIs this a seriously held sentiment among you dumbasses?
>>27610434Retard.