/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

IRyStocrat first!

SODA-CHAN IS PLAYING RN

Sora's comp is chugging since she can't kill them fast enough

>>27531809
Potato pc

Saviorfag where are you at?????
Her PC need saving NOW!!!!

>turn off numbers
>does nothing
lmao

jesas sora's pc...

>my laptop plays the game better
Where is she using her money on?

>>27532178
Sora is a microphone autist, bet she has a different mic for each day of the week

It's not a Vampire Survivors game unless it can't into multi-threading.

>>27531659
Wait, WHAT? My oshi is playing this?
Gotta go! Gotta go watch it right now!

>3 minutes in
>level 3

She's so bad lol. It's cute.

Welp, Mori's beginner friendly. She'll probably at least reach Fubura this time.

So the rrat about her being too powerful that every horror games she played often bugged out. Turns out its just she has shitty PC???

Soda-chan...

Is it the streaming software that's making the game lag for everyone? My tower is mid and the game has only lagged once for me, when using IRyS.

>>27532747
I doubt that. If Sora learned how to strafe, she would survive longer.

Flare stop using Kiara...

>>27533356
She's the only EN that she likes

>those soda moans
Stop it, I don't want to sexualize you!

>>27533356
she wants to score a win with her to give to Kiara as a present

>use Fauna
>barely have to move away from spawn point
Now if only they'd just fix her Whisper mechanic.

>>27533115
It's probably a contributing factor. I built mine five years ago and it only chugs once I hit Yagoo.

Kek, Sora is so surprised by Fubuzilla. So cute

>mess around and decide to play mumei in endless
>reach +100% haste
>friend breaks
wtf is this? also i guess mumei is endless viable now?

https://youtu.be/UvUQ7tgslfA CHOCO

>>27535415
starts in 1 minute too

It looks like Sora's gonna be bashing her head against the wall huh

CHOCO-SEN

Holocure Holomem Stream Checklist
>First picks Calli
>Comment on the Yagoo statue being annoying/gross
>"Chibi" *muffled laugh*
>Knightly Milk~
>Ah... Marine and Chloe like BL.
>Startled by Fubura/Fubuzilla
>Gets obvious base level EN references wrong
>"Will I by any chance be added to this game in the future?"
>Dakimakura? Oh but it's Yagoo... nobody needs that
>*happy squealing when they see anything related to Coco*
>*happy squealing when they see anything related to themselves*
>Eh? Isn't this strong? (about something that is not strong)
>run directly away from XP in a straight line
>die sub 5 minutes
>die sub 8 minutes
>die sub 5 minutes again
>take multiple runs to figure out what strafing is.
>Started by Smol Ame
>More excited to pull Gacha than play the game

It's kinda odd how Sora doesn't move diagonally.

wtf are you doing choco-sen

Flare did it!

>>27536444
>First picks Calli
I was Ame before. What happened?

>>27536726
>I was Ame before.
Hello, former Ame.

>>27536444
Who's worse? Her or Sora?

>>27536726
You aren't holomem

I wish Sora would pick Spider Cooking, but she's too much of a seiso girly idol to pick something kimochiwaru like that.

>choco doesn't know a single reference yet

>Choco doesn't know Piki Piki Piman is a Korone reference
THEY HATE EACHOTHER

[EN] Sora: It's amazing that a fan-made game can be this awesome!

>Make the game boringly easy to let every holomem play it without embarrassing themselves
>Then overbuff Calli to the point she's basically a cheat mode
>Half of them still struggle

Will she recognize her own item in the game?

>>27537300
https://old.reddit.com/r/holocure/comments/vrl3gm/loose_thoughts_and_feedback/iewsr6s/
>It's really funny to me, because I literally fall asleep trying to play my own game. It's insanely easy for me due to how many times I've played it (all the playtesting of course). But at the same time, this game has a very specific target audience, and I knew even the difficulty it is now, is pretty difficult for a LOT of that audience. Watching the various streams of all sorts of people playing, it confirms it for me even more that this game lies on the harder side for the demographic that it is intended for.

>picked Calli agaim

>>27537404
I guess he could add challenge modes or different difficulties in the future so shitters get to learn the game without making it too easy for the rest

>>27537404
>vtuber fans are fucking casuals
not wrong, for the most part

Damn, Sora's really bad lmao.

Sora ended the stream. :(

>that fucking Choco moan
Is she always like this?

>Calli again

>>27538026
>>27537473
Chocosen likes Mori

Chocosen will stream holocure for at least 6 hours, right?

>>27538003
People don't mistake her for a succubus and call her SEX for nothing

>>27538003
yup

wtf chocosen

>literally worse than Sora
rumao this dumb sexy dork

She finally know to strafe

...fuck, my dick is getting hard

choco using choco horns


cuuute

>>27538420
Never underestimate the zako champion

>>27536444
I added a few extras to make a bingo sheet

Shieldbeats incoming

>>27538003
Okayu moans way more

>>27539053
expertly dodged

>Devs will be nerfing stage mode more due to Sora

>die within with 2 minutes
>somehow manage to escape the infamous shieldbeat wave first try

>>27539212
they better not, I want her to grow strong, not the game be made weak

>>27539212
Or probably just make the Sora playable character be overpowered like Calli

The cutting board is locked behind Ina so they need to play character other than Mori if they want an easier game

>>27539308
welcome to the modern dev cycle
>make fun time waster
>realize after launch women are playing your game
>go through several cycles of dumbing it down until some of them can win most of the time
>get articles written about how your game is the dark souls of horde survivors

>>27538616
zako? as in bottom or winner of the loser bracket?

>>27539679
The one who got last place. Aka worst racer

>>27539679
the winner of the loser tournamnet

>>27539500
Anon, if one can't play with Mori, then I wouldn't believe they can survive long enough until Cutting Board becomes useful.

>>27535413
Until the next patch when it's fixed. But most skills scale with haste, which apparently includes Friend, so at 100% haste he has 0 cooldown and spams your shit on loop.

>>27539895
poor kiwawa trailer blazer doesn't scale with haste and actually gets nerfed by speed

>Choco has the energy drink
>at this skill level
Either she's got bigger balls than most of the people on this board or she's pon/dumb as heck, either way she cute so it's okay

>>27539895
>Portable Bae
Nice

>>27540017
She got it from the triple box, chat told her to take all.

>>27540074
Seems like IRyS should be the one with a portable Bae.

>>27539788
actually, the LOSER of the loser tournament

>>27540184
Chat is betrayer.

>>27539108
I mean, I'm not trying to compare. I've long known that Okayu is a slut.

>>27539575
>>get articles written about how your game is the dark souls of horde survivors
I lost it when Crash Bandicoot become the Dark Souls of platformers

God A-chan is cute.

kronies???

>>27537593
If you're the dev playtesting the game ALL THE FUCKING TIME, you're going to get good at it. He is taking it into account.

>>27539951
At least that kinda makes sense, just with the way that skill works, haste could only really stack the fire faster, and I don't know if they overlap damage. The biggest weird one is Sana's gravity pulse. It's a core part of her kit, but is completely unaffected by haste.

Out of the holos who have played, who's best at the game? Who's worst at it?

>>27540655
That seems to be the case in every stream, right?
Chat always recommends the worst items that'll fuck em over in the long run

>>27541057
botan beat yagoo

>>27541057
>who's best at the game
Button
>Who's worst at it?
The one is streaming right it now

>>27541057
Botan for best. She cleared Endless twice. Both with Ina and Mumei.

https://youtu.be/P0NBecZwCMw

Mori's instakill chance should scale with Haste
Workaholic should give Haste instead of movespeed
Yagoo viability through sheer overkill

>>27540842
Playable when?

>>27541380
She should be a yoshimitsu style character that uses the unique elements of the other characters at random, so she get's a random starting weapon, a random special, and 3 random skills on start up.

>>27541357
To be honest, no skills should scale with haste. It makes the stat way to strong on specific characters, and will play hell with balancing weapons down the line

>>27541254
A natural conclusion, Botan is a gamer with a level head.

Also, very cute.

>>27541817
It's more fun for every skill with a cooldown to scale with haste though.

>>27541817
>no fun allowed balancing in a skillless 30 minute single player game
Go back to your MMO

>>27541380
>>27541784

and is only unlockable after unlocking EVERY other holo.

>>27541940
>Mumei weapon
>Gura Sharkbite
>Calli Death
>Kronii Bubble
>Bae Special

>>27535413
How did you get your Haste so high that fast? By the time Yagoos come, I'm usually at 50% at most and I make sure to prioritize it over everything else.

IS THAT FUCKING CHIMKIN?!?

>>27542276
>How did you get your Haste so high that fast? By the time Yagoos come, I'm usually at 50% at most and I make sure to prioritize it over everything else.
Cheat engine

This thread is now property of KFP

>>27542276
nta but I've been (unsuccessfully) working on getting a perfect Kronii run going all day and I keep getting about 120-140 haste by Yagoos. Maybe you're just bad?

>>27542381
Goddamnit

>>27542276
exp boost + don't make collabs
my haste is usually 130% by Yagoo

>>27542381
what kind of nerd cheats at a single player game

>>27542454
Kronii has extra Haste tho. It just rarely shows up in my runs. It's the rarest stat upgrade for me.

>>27542477
I did just that though. 25mins in, never seen a Haste upgrade so I gave in and collabed.

Seriously tho. Why is this game so poorly optimized?
an RTX 3090 gpu is powerful enough to handle 8K graphics with raytracing. But somehow, this sprite art indie game still lags like shit sometimes.

>>27542655
Engine limitation

>>27542655
GameMaker Studio

>>27542641
It's the rarest upgrade, not seeing any until late game is normal, but when you have no items or weapons to be upgraded and you start levelling very fast around the 28 minute mark they'll start to appear

>>27542655
It's not an issue of optimization it's limitations of the engine. It's not like it's crashing her PC.

>>27542747
Ah, damnit. Then I really should have waited longer. I fucking hate RNG.

Waiting for the android version

>>27542812
It's hard to imagine even GameMaker running this fucking badly

>>27542872
Devs have no plan for mobile version. Check their page.

fucking christ

i didn't understand why folks would want to cheat to end their runs

until I left mine running overnight

i swear she was instant killing them when I woke up

>>27543101

start stacking speed boosts and try and outrun the takos

>>27543174
i had horns my guy, I was litcherally healing to full off a single yagoo, since plushie and headphones made it so like 10% of them would actually hit me

>>27539575
i hate everything i just read and yet i cant stop laughing

>>27543101
The interactions make it so it's literally impossible to die with over 100% HP and 700hp no matter how long you wait for Yagoo's to scale. The game will crash first.

You can't die until they're doing literally all of your HP in a single frame of damage.

>>27543101

Yeah I realized that and wound up killing the run using CE, it feels scummy, but I actually want to USE my computer.

>>27542655
it's single-threaded

>>27544010
Are you serious bro
Games like this ran at 60 FPS in the 90s on single threaded processors

>>27544181
Shoe me those games having thousands of damage instances and other shit going on per second.

>>27544291
Holocure has less than 100 enemies on screen at once
That's nothing
Go play Command and Conquer and build 100 units

>>27544448
Who cares? C&C doesn't have every unit on the screen being hit 10+ times per second from 6 different weapons

>>27544747
being hit doesn't use extra processing power
an RTS game unit has more shit to do than the enemies in this game, like pathfinding
without getting too off-topic there's no excuse for this terrible performance

Which upgrade should I go for after the ultimate and money

>>27544895
>being hit doesn't use extra processing power
Calculating the damage+healing, eyc. does though

>>27542710
Piece of shit engine that doesn't even have built-in lighting system and now it's owed by chinks.
I'm still mad.

>>27544979
calculating damage and healing is several thousand times cheaper than drawing a graphic to the screen

>>27544971
xp, movement speed then hp

>>27545155
That doesn't fucking matter, they're separate things done by separate hardware. GPU doesn't mean shit fort his game, it's CPU bound.

>>27545155
Don't forget collisions.

>>27545288
extremely cheap, if you're just using boxes, you can collide hundreds of thousands of objects together at 60 fps

>>27544971
Spread it out since rank 1 and 2 are always a bargain, but prioritize XP, attack, and haste.

>>27539575
But women rarely play games besides candy crush.

>>27545268
but even if you have a really good CPU, this game still lags. i guess it's more of a software issue than a hardware issue.

>>27545718
To assume that a game you would play in the 90s lagging on your computer in 2022 would be a hardware issue is ridiculous

>>27545718
No shit, again, it's single threaded.
And all the good CPUs are multi-core and aren't being fully utilized.

>>27545917
Imagine fully utilizing multiple cores just to run a basic-ass 2D game

>>27546217
>still thinks graphics has anything to do with CPU calculations

>>27546503
2D games have to do much less CPU calculations
What this game does should be running at 1000 FPS on a single thread, instead it's running at 10

I get the dev "wants the next update to feel impactful", but all interest will be gone if he doesn't put out any updates for a fucking month.
At least throw us some scraps with a few balance updates or something.

anyone streaming?

>>27541254
>cleared Endless
Does Endless have an end now?

>>27546570
It depends on the game, anon. Mario doesn't have many CPU calculations. This game, or VS, or Rim World obviously does.

>>27546632
we will get waves desu. August isn't that far away, so just chill out for a bit and then come back when GAMERs are added

>>27546673
getting to the 30 minute mark, essentially

>>27546735
Like I just said, this game isn't doing a lot
VS has shit performance too although they imrpoved it somewhat, it has a lot more enemies and still doesn't drop to 10 FPS
They should be getting 1000 FPS

I been doing a pacifist mode, trying to survive as long as I can without killing anyone, the most fun I had in this game for a while, you guys should try it

>>27546875
I would argue that any run that both can beat infinite Yag and also die is the closes we can get to a 100% clear

>>27546874
You have no idea what you're talking about if you think just because a game is 2D it should be getting 1000 FPS.

>>27546632
This should be expected. People want more content but it takes a long time to make and the game is really hot right now but the updates wont come until way later when its cooled off. Happened with Fall Guys. Though I think since the holos are all excited to play as themselves, its possible they are more likely to revisit it when they are added into the game.

>>27547002
If it's 2D and it's not doing anything complicated (which this is not) it should be performing very well, yes

>>27546889
>pacifist
Do you just run away from enemies?

>>27546632
Absence makes the heart grow fonder
Most of the girls wont burn out on the game and will pick it up each major update
Its for the best

>>27547129
yes, you need to have 0 kills and survive as long as you can, even just 1 kill will mean the run is forfeit

>>27546503
For what it's worth, it's 100% a graphics issue in this game. I've got a good rig and I can run Yagoo's with a standard build and no damage numbers with 0 lag. But turn on damage numbers, or pick up some graphics intensive item like bombs or Kiara's awakened sword, and the game churns at Yagoos. Whatever it is has to be related to certain graphics.

>>27542477
How doea not collabing give u more haste?

2nd attempt and it seems mumei's history is bugged(?) making her attack scale double and without a limit. I was able to kill myself by running away fast enough that elite cooking's damage areas didn't stack and proc horns. This is a max gacha rank mumei. Can others replicate it so I know this isn't a fluke and confirm that mumei is actually yagoo viable?
Goal is 400+ hp and around 60~70% haste as you hit 30 mins and then you stand still. Also never make haste go above 95% as friend breaks and makes the game unplayable.

>>27547328
u r autistic

>>27547121
It doesn't have to do anything complicated. 1000s of addition/multiplication/division calculations per second is going to be slow no matter what on a single thread, and that has to sync up frame-wise with the rest of the game.
>>27547353
I mean, it's drawing thousands of damage numbers per second, which the CPU doesn't have to manage if it's off.

>>27547645
NTA, once you have all slots full you will get stat upgrades more often each lvl

>>27547698
try it before you knock it

>>27547709
>1000s of addition/multiplication/division calculations per second is going to be slow no matter what on a single thread
a computer was invented to do math operations. it's the fastest operation a computer can do. everything else it does it built out of number operations. drawing a graphic is thousands of number operations, calculating a damage hit is a couple. a 4ghz processor can do 4 billiion cycles per second, and a math operation is about 3 cycles. A game like this should be able to handle hundred of thousands of objects at 60 fps. Instead it fucking croaks with a few hundred

>>27547645
Each collab is 7 extra levels you have to put into the replacement weapon. That's 7 levels that could have gone into stats like haste. You only NEED 1 collab, for anyone not trying to out dps the Yagoos, so taking more than 2 at most is dumb.

>>27538894
You're bad at making a bingo card. It's impossible for a blackout since there are two "first pick"

>>27548053
What do you expect from a free fan game made from Game Maker Studio? It's going to have a lot of overhead, and it's just made worse by being single-threaded.

>>27548565
It triggers my autism to see someone justify something being literally 100 times as slow as it should be by saying "it's not multi-threaded", as if THAT'S the problem

>>27546889
I saw someone post a challenge run where they don't step outside the starting triangle and that was also very fun, trying to figure out how to live past some of the bosses. It was also torture trying to bait bosses in so I can grab the boxes

Got my first clear with ame on a second try. Played a lot of VS tho

>>27549502
Unlock special in the shop then try the other characters now. The unique skills give each character a lot more of a unique feel than you get from characters in VS.

>>27546632
just play other game

So whose this evil force that fucked us up?

>>27549502
Now do 30+ minutes

>>27550142
vs*ojo

>>27550142

>>27551842
who the fuck is this

>>27552255

>>27550142
Anuaf
Makes the most sense anyway since she wants to turn her fans into saplings to begin with and thats her evil side.

Patch today?

>>27550142
I bet the villain will just be some cringe OC if a story is added at all. Yuck!

Ok I've had enough
Does this game use the words "piercing" and "hit limit" interchangeably? WTF is up with this retarded ass wording?

>>27556730
Piercing means it passes through enemies at all. The "hit limit" is how many enemies it can pierce before the projectile despawns.

Removal of hit limit then means that the projectile can pierce indefinitely.

>>27556837
just say piercing +(number) then. having 2 different terms is dumb

Any news on the "Gamers" update?

>>27556914
he already said august you fuckin spic

>>27556863
I agree with you.

>>27557091

mumei has the best weapon in the game

i hate coins

>>27557050
thanks, but I'm not hispanic/latino

>>27541177
>>27541223
>>27541254
Mumei...

>>27545710
You mean Nintendogs.

>Kaela
Played for 5 hours in her first stream. By the end of it she was still running away from enemies and experience for a minute or more at a time, but she did manage to beat it.
>Noel
Never got past the deadbeat filter.
>Sora
One of the few who never learned to strafe in their first session. At least made it to 10 minutes.
>Choco
Learned to strafe, made it to 10 minutes. Never really made the connection that running from enemies -> less kills -> less experience -> falling behind -> getting overwhelmed and dying. Especially with Calli she should at least learn to swing the scythe behind her when she moves instead of ignoring strafing entirely when she wants to escape something.

Noel still the worst. There was a Q&A post linked last thread and the dev claimed he was near the upper end of the difficulty range he wanted for the target audience. It wouldn't entirely surprise me if he added an easier mode for Noel/Choco/Sora level players.

>>27556730
>unable to understand simple terms
fucking hell youre a dumb nigger

>>27548565
Clickteam:
>Already dead
or maybe not, I don't have much experience with Game Maker besides a class I had to do in high school

>>27548731
what is the problem?

>>27557299
She does if you want to be lazy, but imo ame is pretty top. Calli's weapon though is without a doubt the best.

Its easier to argue which has the weakest weapon, I think its easily Irys. Her weapon feels weaker whan its awakened compared to just sitting it at level 6.

>>27548565
Single threaded game logic doesn't seem to be the biggest bottleneck. While I can see collisions with weirdly shaped objects getting heavy, especially if done naively, the huge savings from disabling damage numbers means it's likely a rendering/engine issue. It's possible the dev is unintentionally doing something quadratic or worse but even a naive implementation of tracking damage numbers should handle hundreds easily. Iterating them in order and removing them in place when they've expired instead of rebuilding the list once per frame would be a common beginner mistake, but I'd hope the dev would have caught that by now since they claimed to have "optimized the hell out of it." I can only imagine how much worse it was before if it still chugs this badly. https://twitter.com/kaynimatic/status/1539827299855372288

It does ultimately run well enough most of the time, and between not having the game or having a game that performs this poorly I'd rather have the game as is. Might just be the dev is only familiar with game maker studio and lacks the confidence to pick something else up - which is kind of tautologically true. A more experienced or confident dev wouldn't be as averse to picking something new up, especially for a hobby project, and probably wouldn't have ever picked up game maker studio themselves. Probably can't easily make the project open source though, but I hope he at least has a competent developer friend to help him out.

>>27557299
I think you're overestimating Mumei's weapon itself, though it probably still is the best by a smaller margin. It's not really that much better than Fauna's, it just benefits from Mumei's massive attack bonuses which also apply to every other weapon she picks up. Right now though it's more that Mumei is able to get by for a huge portion of the game on just her own weapon and passives - it wouldn't surprise me if the dev reworked Mumei to make Civilization and History more different in the future, like scaling different stats, since he didn't really have any ideas for Mumei. Calli's scythe at least gets unique benefits from Death and her special.

>>27562263
IRyS is one thing since it at least still pierces even if it could use another couple of damage per hit. I think it's between Gura's and Kiara's right now. The trident does basically nothing and Kiara's sword, while it hits a larger area, also suffers the IRyS problem of feeling weaker at level 7 and has the largest deadzone. Kronii's gets shit on a lot in these threads but I think it works well enough for long enough without a big deadzone. Sana also has a problem if you get level 7 too early, because she has no fucking damage output and once she gets knockback she stops being able to kill anything with her personal weapon, but the knockback itself is valuable.

>>27557299
She also has the second lowest ATK modifier, so it balances out. Or it will when her half-dozen bugs are patched out.

>>27550142
It'll be something that trashes GFE seeking viewers. Just you watch.

How do you unlock Irys? Through the gacha? I've done the Myth gacha 4 times and got Kiara all 4 consecutive times, do I have just a very specific type of luck or is it weighted towards specific characters?

>>27564155
Anon...You can change gacha banners. Councilrys is on a separate banner.

>>27562876
At least Iyrs's makes sense. Several small hits means higher chance for 1 of them to crit and trigger Half-Angel, and by proxy Half-Demon. Kiara's sword also becomes many small hits, but she has no skills that benefit from that. Which is a shame, since Trailblazer could easily be changed so rather than leave a fire trail herself, her sword could ignite enemies on crit to cause them to leave fire trails, damaging themselves and enemies that walk over them. Would fix Trailblazers biggest issue and give a reason for the sword hits, and random scaling crit on Dancer.

>>27564155

I only just realized you can buy upgrades to unlock a supermove and increase coins gained.

>>27565070
I did this, played the game till somehow I managed to clear it back when Calli still had the gap in her scythe. Then went to the store and was like—

Oh, right.

Suddenly my win rate with everyone spiked up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bINiAs2Tus
Goomba time

Even for Gura she seems unusually dumb this stream.

>>27562876
I dont feel that way about Kiara's desu. When its awakened is when the sword finally feels useful. Gura's does feel a bit meh though, I do agree but its probably fine and feels "weak" because of how strong the actual strong weapons are.

Is this thread active at all? I would like to ask questions about the game while watching Goomba, is anyone here?

>>27571468
What is it?

>>27570923
Dev has acknowledged that personal weapons fall off late game and there's some planned mechanic to increase their strength. Not sure the dev has actually realized that personal weapons are a beginner trap for many characters that makes the game harder for the beginners he's targeting.

>>27571468
Just ask the question you retard

>>27571581
No, now I will not. Oke, just kidding, I'm being retarded on purpose now.
>>27571542

I've heard this game is 99% cpu and that gpu doesn't really matter, true or not?

>>27571845
>now

Yup, earlier I was naturally retarded, later I tried to be on purpose AND I SUCCEEDED. Sasuga me.

>>27572166
I forgot to reply, lemme fix it >>27572001
See, now I'm again naturally doing it.

does it really take months to add 4 characters?

>>27571845
idk man, I just trust the machine spirit to make things works and so far it hasn't failed me
Wouldn't you be able to check it from the task manager or wherever you check those things?

>>27571561
Not sure that the dev is that good at balance honestly, seeing how op Calli currently. I would argue that personal weapons arent also too weak, simply that the collab weapons are just super strong.

>>27572347
I haven't downloaded it cause I thought I won't be able to run it with intel integrated gpu. I'll try it after Gura stream, but I just wanted to check so if it's not true I don't get my hopes up.

>>27572414
He doesn't really need to be that good, so long as no characters are so bad they're frustrating (Calli was, especially for beginners, and Kiara is now) or so overpowered they're boring (Mumei is kinda close because she trivializes 90% of the game with just her own kit) for stage mode. Inalock is a bug and will be fixed.

>complains about healing
>ignores shark bite
It's real painful to watch.

x+=x+=x+=x+=x+=x+=
x+=x+=

Other than vt Holocure general, is there other place to discuss Holocure? (e.g. Dev's official forum)

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>>27572701
She got horns it's ok.

>>27572554
Isn't the dev just one guy that is doing this for fun and has 2 actual jobs? Correct me if I'm mistaken.

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shut up bitch

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>>27572279
>Actual small indie team
>Doing it for free for a game that is free
>Is also doing balancing, adding new items, maps and possibly mechanics
Christ you're an entitled brat.

>>27572279
Gura literally did an impersonation of people like you to mock you guys lol.

Why aren't the Bubba enemies Investigators? It's driving me nuts.

>>27572767
Pretty much. I don't have substantial complaints with the game. There are a bunch of easy item balance tweaks I'd love to do (move some items from 3 to 5 levels as a nerf, some from 5 to 3 as a buff), and it could perform a lot better, but it's good enough for the vast majority of the game.

>>27572279
I mean he's stated that the next update is going to be "impactful" and, thus, more than 4 characters. We know there are going to be more stages and items eventually. Safe to assume the next big update will have a second stage and maybe gamers + 0th.

she got real lucky with the drops her first run huh
thats the only reason i can think of as to why her first run was her best at the time of this post

>>27572279
iirc the dev is an industry animator, so he doesn't have the time to work on it constantly

>>27550142
Hitomi Chris

>>27573234
If I was Cover I'd pay the guy to do the rest

This is some of the most effective advertising money can buy

>>27538894
You forgot “getting excited for A-Chan”

>>27573002
Because clearly the dev is a teammate. I noticed that the first time playing as well

Imagine this game being more successful than HoloEarth on launch.

>>27562876
Sana's problem is if you max out her main weapon and get Gravity she's got enough knockback to knock bosses out of damage range and you end up having to chase them to kill them which is less than ideal. But I also found out in last thread her knockbacks get nullified when there's a massive mob because if an enemy gets knocked back but there's another enemy behind them it stops the knockback.

>>27573798
It clearly will be even though HoloEarth will be pushed hard. It depends on how the game plays out though

>>27573798
I mean, it porbably will. Maybe if Cover invest a ton of money into advertising it, but still. To me it seems like Cove is trying to aim too high with HoloEarth, maybe simple approach like this is better.

>>27573798
I've seen a million failed MMOs. HoloEarth doesn't really excite me. I'll probably play it a bit for the novelty but it doesn't really look like something I'll play for a substantial amount of time.

>>27573798
I dont know jap but what do we know about HoloEarth anyway? Its obvious that you control an OC and not some holomember but will it be like Genshin where you add holos to your team or what?

>>27572810
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Other than vt Holocure general, is there other place to discuss Holocure? (e.g. Dev's official forum)

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>>27573798
If Holocure was made by Cover and you can gacha for all hololive members up to holoX and additional cosmetics to customize your character, imagine how much millions they will make already.

>Kiara rank 20
>Gura rank 4
FUCK THIS GACHA

>>27574419
Kiara is more fun to play as anyway.

>>27573002
Because investigators don't have an official design yet. Same reason why Sana has her worm thing, because Bread Dogs only became official recently.

Nice oshi you guys have there

>>27573433
If they try and monetize it can't the devs of Vampire Survivor sue? It's basically the same game with different sprites

>>27575417
......................Vampire Survivor is not the first game of this genre. PLEASE. Do you rarely play games?

>>27575417
no, just like every fps games cannot sue each other.

>>27575417
Are you fucking retarded? Wouldn't id, as in the company that made Doom/Wolfenstein, be suing every company for making any FPS ever? Think before you post anon, god damn I bet your parents are disappointed with how stupid you are.

>>27531082
What should I do if I can't die when I'm using full HP Ina? The reward didn't appear when I quit the game.

>>27576299
Don't play Ina in Endless.

>>27576299
CheatEngine your HP to zero.

>>27573234
From his comments to the reaction that people are having, he seems very motivated keep updating.
Though solo game developing takes a lot of time, and he's basically doing it for free.
Still, after this he'll probably be swimming in commissions

>>27573433
I wish. Unfortunately Cover is a Japanese company and the burocracy associated to making that a reality would both take years and frustrate the dev into abandoning the project.

>>27550142
Niji

GG, Gura

mumei2strong

Mooms my gold farming machine, thanks for carrying Gura.

>>27547666
I was able to replicate your run and can confirm that her scaling is bugged. My attack is still climbing like crazy long after I've stopped picking attack upgrades.
What happens at 100% haste exactly? Does Friend just start shitting out damage endlessly, and if so, can you still die with that happening?

>>27577681
Whoops, forgot to attach my pic.

How do I die? Do the Yagoos eventually get strong enough to kill me?

How would one build the Gen 0 characters? Roboco and Miko would be fairly interesting, but then there's 3 singers.

>>27577681
Friends cooldown goes to 0, so he just spams your abilities nonstop. As for your attack, History is bugged and, among others things, currently has no cap.

>>27578828
Sword user Sora
Miko GTA
Suisei tetris
AZKi singer

>>27578633
if youre within 40 minutes then its possible. if youre at a hour, give up. use ce to cheat your health to the negatives to die. yagoo catching up to you in terms of stats is real slim at that point.

>>27578828
Just make AZKi have a pure singing themed kit, lean Sora towards her idol aspect and slap on other aspects of her character like Ankimo. Suisei has a ton of memes to go off of, you'd only really need to work out her base weapon.

wanted to get to 10 minutes with bae for plushie but I got carried away and just whooped Ame's ass

>>27578934
I decided to bite the bullet and try it out.
It's pretty a good way to gauge the relative strength of each of the items. When he's spamming collabs or axes, I'm completely untouchable, but when he's on leaves, asacocos, or glowsticks, I have to deal with the Yagoo swarm again.

>>27578828
> Azki

You do something around her 3 model iterations.
Maybe instead of a special its a active skill to switch between an offensive mode, a speed mode and a defensive mode...

Something about Route A and Route B

> Sora

Idol Inspiration :
Creates a zone like Ina but turns enemies into allies that attack other enemies

Dai Senpai:
Every X seconds a kouhai appears to do an attack or a skill to aid you in battle

Something with her teddy bear

> Suisei
Meteor shower
Psychopathic Carnage
Tetris master

Suisei has a lot of stuff to pull from

>>27579363
>Dai Senpai
god the thought of a skill like that made me diamonds

Final stats before I decided 25k was enough coins and went to kill myself. I ended up earning another 2k while leveling speed to outrun Friend's skills quickly enough to die.
It's harder to set up than Inavincible, but at least I didn't have to use CE to kill myself.

>>27580454
How long did that take in real time roughly?

>>27580658
I wanna say about 1.5-2 hours, but I wasn't really paying attention. I really didn't have many slowdowns with the Yagoos until I bumped my haste up to 100%.

It is over.
I won.
The end of this madness, i'm finally free.
Until next update...

>>27580972
good job anon kwonii would be proud of you

>>27561736
Running poorly optimized code multithreaded results in poor multithreaded performance, duh. More cores is not a panacea for shit scripting and no offense to Kai but he's not john carmack; he's not some engine coding god he's just some artist that tweens vector shit to make cute anime girl gifs.

>>27550142

>>27580972
chromgratulations kronie

>>27583647
I KNEW IT

I think Sana is the best

Guys what's the best build for Bae? Holy shit, she's fucking hard to play
>low HP will die in a few hits
>slow as fuck need at least 3 speed up upgrades
>level up is slow as fuck because getting exp is hard enough

>>27585377
Just pick 30% crit and 4x crits as fast as possible and spider or bible. You won. Don't rush to upgrade 30% crit to max, it's a trap.

>>27533581
Based half-elf.

Kiara isnt bad...
just underwhelming to use

>>27580972
I've tried this a couple of times now and I just don't seem to get enough haste. There's always too big of a gap between bubbles once Yagoo shows up and I die before I can get the next bubble.

>>27584925
Her damage sucks dick at first, but it's so fun to just stack knock-back items and AFK.

>>27585694
Her starting weapon is very good, and it's all you need to finish the stage. She's just garbage for endless.

>>27585723
Funny you said this, because it was one of the worst runs i had. It was something like 120% haste (without perfection) and barely 500 hp. I had runs with 150 haste and 600 hp that died in the first minute, but this run succeeded, somehow. I only got 200% haste at 40 minutes, and started overlapping at minute 45.
Partially, i just got lucky and my plushie didn't bugged out so i didn't die to oneshot. Partially, fan beam was a good choice, i think. It saved me plenty of times before i got 200% haste. If i did this again, i think i'll change bomb for cutting board.
Also, holy shit trees and fences are pain in the ass. I forgot how many times i almost died because there is something between me and the bubble, and i just can't see it because of the effects. At least trees aren't that big, but i stuck in fences like 3 times. Even at high haste you still can die easily if you don't pay enough attention. Same thing with anvils, you just can't find them. I think i got less than a half of anvils by blindly running inside of the bubble for a second or two.

Up to what ranks can these Holos go?

>>27586900
statwise up to 20. purely number wise: infinite
which sucks as dupes are useless past 20 but you can still get them anyways

Make Friend pettable.

>>27538894
Add "Continually avoids the converted Takodachis still assuming they are enemies."

Is iRyS really that bad? After upgrading all her skills and weapon it felt like a breeze since no matter how much damage i took i still got healed to full in like 5 seconds, meaning I could spend the rest of my EXP on offensive upgrades

>>27538334
Imagine if those were all us.
...FUCK, Imagine if someone does a HoloCure doujin!

>>27587356
Irys is poorly designed for early game, so playing her in stage is just pointless. She's pretty good in endless. I feel like they wanted her Hope skill to be the way it is now so much, that they gave her 2 of the worst skills in the game to compensate.

How does study glasses EXP bonus calculation work? Is it...

A) ...10% replaced by 15%, replaced by 20%, replaced by 25%, replaced by 30%?
B) ...10% + 15% + 20% + 25% + 30%?
C) ...1 x 1.1 x 1.15 x 1.2 x 1.25 x 1.3?

The distinction is rather important for obvious reasons.

>>27547666
>>27577681
>>27577731
Tried your Mumei Endless build.
Didn't get enough HP and Haste, only 300+ HP and 60 Haste.
Only last 8 seconds using her special once.

>>27588655
Like any other upgrade. Replacing.

>>27561736
Who knows
Mulitthreading might improve your game performance 2x if you're lucky
But the game is literally running 100x slower than it should, not 2x
But it might not be the developers fault, he's using GameMaker

>Updated: 6 days ago

>>27585694
As she currently is she's basically a weaker version of Calli with a more annoying damage buff mechanic. She really needs to be reworked.

>>27590560
It's planned. Kay talked about it on a reddit post. It's just an even more substantial rework than Calli so it's not as quick to push it out.

>>27588699
>30:29
Last longer, got 500+ HP but only 50 Haste.