/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I think women should not have opinions

>>27526502
No

>>27526502
Vtubers is a very broad category, it's like asking "should streamers discuss politics". Some should if it's compatible with their brand, others shouldn't. Most Vshoujo use their character accounts as their personal twitter too, so it's on-brand for them.

>Should they be allowed?
Yes
>Should they do it?
No. Because political schizos are even worse.

>>27526518
fpbp

>>27526502
Sure, they can but they have to be willing to live with the consequences of doing so. If they're going to bitch and whine about 'harassment', people abandoning them or in-fighting within their fandom as a result of talking politics then they should keep their mouths shut.

do people really care about the political opinions of a literal whore?

>>27526502
Western whores should keep their mouths shut unless a cock is going in it.

>>27526502
most of vtubers I came across are not really bright, and frankly idea of for example Cali talking about politics makes my teeth itch

>>27526502
is that whore for real?

>>27526837
Retard, that tweet is from two years ago

>>27526837
what's wrong with gamer flag?

>>27526502
Politics distinctly separates people. There is a reason why political discussion are discouraged in the office setting.

>>27526502
bringing up religion or politics is fucking retarded. Only retards are doing it to look smart

>>27526909
>lgbt propaganda wasn't politics two years ago
???

>>27526502
NO

>>27526502
I don't care if they do, I'll not watch though, but what's even the point of them discussing politics? If I wanted to hear about politics I would go to someone with actual insight not the virtual camgirl.

What is politics exactly? Sounds like anything people dont want to talk about it is politics.

If you get your political news and takes from an entertainment genre, let alone a medium of anime girl streamers, it would unironically be more beneficial for your country's progress if you didn't learn anything at all. You're poisoning the well. Get a real education, use entertainment to preserve your motivation or mental health if you must, but doing both at the same time devalues from both aspects.

>>27526502
Politics and Religion are among the topics that can divide people to the absolute extreme. If you're an entertainer and you're dipping into politics you're getting yourself into deep shit without any positive. Only do it when you're offering satire as kabarett otherwise you're just setting out to kill your career. Just because you have a voice doesn't mean you should make it heard on things you don't fully understand.

>>27527000
Sure, and her profile hasn't been edited in that time lapse

>>27527049
>What is politics exactly?
Are you underage or just illiterate?

>>27526502
Need Hasan vtuber

It's not wrong, but people should remember that the main appeal of VTubing is escapism. Talking about politics also depends on the issues they brought up, it can be something universally popular or the most inane and divisive shit ever.

>>27526601
/thread

everyone else is retarded

>>27527131
is lily good?

>>27526502
Vtubing thrives because it's comfort entertainment. People just wanna chill and watch some anime girls, and as soon as IRL politics get involved the immersion is ruined. As soon as politics are involved I'm out, regardless of whether I agree or not.

>>27526518
/thread

As others have said, discussing politics or religion is just a bad move from a business standpoint. You are always going to offend someone and that costs you viewers. The reality is you gain nothing from virtue signaling. Putting aside the business aspect of things though: My personal opinion is I don't want to watch or hear that shit in my entertainment. Even if I agree with the politics you are spouting, I still don't want to hear it. I'm watching to relax and get away from real world drama so stop taking my happy time away from me. If you want to be a political vtuber, that's fine. It's your life and you can make your own choices in it. Just don't expect me to watch you.

>>27526502
While the idea of "allowing" it or otherwise is retarded, the bigger problem is the audience it draws. They are not the types to be happy with whatever vtuber they have found who parrots their opinions back at them, they go around expecting other entertainers to do the same, and pressurising them to do so.

We already have a taste of it with the spergs shitting their pants over idol culture. They're not just happy with what they have (VShojo, plethora of indies etc), everyone else has to conform to their ideas too.

>>27526502
Lmao what exactly was it that prompted the first tweet?
So, as always with these morons, anything they don't like or support = odious politics eww! get that shit out of my chat!
And anything they do support or like means that
>zomg I can't keep quiet about this universal problem and neither should you DON'T SILENCE ME REEEEEEEE
to prevent revealing your inevitable hypocritical nature, blanket bans on what's acceptable discourse and what isn't should be maintained.
If you don't care that you come across as a fickle whore that only supports/antithecurrentthing.png then go ahead, open the floodgates to the endless shitstorm that will follow.
You might be lucky and your viewers will be all for it, but time and time again the audience's own whorish fickle nature reveals itself and before you know it what you said and championed yesterday may no longer be allowed by the Party tomorrow, and you'll find yourself caught in the usual purity spiral.
So it's better to just stfu and focus on entertaining your audience rather than fostering division and laying down the preparations of your own future grave.

It doesnt really matter. Theres so many vtubers out there that you can always find what you like and ignore what you dont. Trying to get every vtuber to act the exact same is stupid.

>>27526502
Usually no. Because they are not intelligent and humorous enough to get away with it.
Famous stand comedian talks politics all the time.
If I want to watch people talk politics, I will watch the pros and intelligent people. Dumb bitches no thanks.

>>27526518
/thread

>>27526518
fpbp. Repeal the 19th, the whole thing was pointless.

>>27527900
incelchama...

>>27526518
fpbp

>>27526502
Titty streamer talks about politics? No thx

>>27526502
>VTubers should be allowed to express their political opinions

>>27527612

>>27526518
extremely based

Let's face it. The only reason /vt/ hates politics is because it breaks the illusion that the girls would ever date their sorry asses.

4chan is racists and misogynist, which filters 99% of women. It filters any self respecting woman really. Only damaged girls are willing to put up with that.

Chuds are so pathetic, that the few that are not terminally ugly have to "hide their power level" in order to date.
How sad is that? And they lack so much self-awareness that some of them are even proud of it.
>Lmao, I fucked a chick pretending to be liberal, how hilarious is that?
Ok buddy, you sure "got " her.

>>27526502
I watch VTubers to escape politics, not get even more politics.

>>27528245
you post here and ywnbaw

Roe VS Wade isn't about politics. It's about basic human rights and decency.

>>27528245
>chuds
>reddit spacing
ywnbaw, go back

>>27526518
fbpb

>>27527131
So another Voice Actress is playing Melody after her whole model fiasco.

>>27528295
>>27528338
I am a heterosexual man, and I don't want to be a woman.

>>27526518
fpbp

>>27526518
fpbp

>>27528463
>You can't change your stance

By default I assume that all vtubers I watch agree with all of my political views. I do not want them to discuss politics on stream since it forces me to face reality.

>>27528284
And I watch vtubers for politics.

>>27528537
So if some poltards suddenly showed up during a stream or in her comments or threads and started shitting it up with their shit, she'd be okay with politics?
After all, she's changed her stance hasn't she?

>>27526518
fpbp

>>27528662
Why dont you try it instead of asking?

>>27526502
I think it's a guaranteed way to sew division in your audience and push those that disagree with you away until you end up with an echo chamber. I would just question to what end and is it really worth it to make that what you're all about? Because once you go down that road it's going to define you. It sets expectations for you both from the people in your audience and from people that have never watched you before. I'd never even give a chuuba a chance if I learned before watching them that they did political discussion so you're preemptively closing off a segment of people before they even give you the chance to make an impression.

>>27526502
Corpos should not. Indies obviously don't have to follow any rules, but I don't have to watch them either if they behave like retards.

>>27526502
Either is fine, it depends on the vtuber themselves. Being a hypocrite is cringe though.

>>27527367
Yes goy give shekels to gd's chosen vtuber.

>>27526502
Yes. I want to hear about Nazuna's opinions on black "people."

>>27528817
Well said. So far I've never seen a chuuba talk politics and doesn't look like idiot.

Also, an intelligent chuuba will not talk about politics. Unless she wants to stir controversies to gather spotlight. Very hard to imagine an intellectual chuuba talks politics. It is dumb move in general.

>>27526587
this
idols are escapist entertainment, contentuous topics such as politics break the illusion
no reason why a regular chuuba couldn't do political content, although it appears to be at the expense of mass appeal or alternatively being pidgeonholed into mainly political commentary

https://www.youtube.com/c/%E3%81%8A%E3%81%8E%E3%81%AE%E7%A8%94MinoriOgino%E8%AD%B0%E5%93%A1%E7%B3%BBVtuber-%E5%A4%A7%E7%94%B0%E5%8C%BA/videos
>even the politician vtuber doesn't talk about politics much on stream

surprised the thread has gotten this far without pointing out that Mana's skyrocketing sub count came to dead stop after airing out some of her stances on twitter...

vtubers are free to do as they please but don't run back crying

>>27528304
Yes, the rights of the unborn and the decency not to try to gaslight people into thinking it's ok to kill a baby as it's crowning.

>>27527049
Anything retarded Americans talk about basically.

>>27526518
I don't give a fuck about them having opinions, just as long as they have no legal right to express them.

>>27528304
>a political decision isn't political
Uh, retardbro? You can argue the topic of abortion in the vacuum of outer space as a thought exercise is not political but the political implementation of it is obviously political. If politics aren't political then words have no meaning.

>>27530044
We should start a petition for states to consider adopting The Protecting Women's Safety Act as an amendment to the constitution and just quietly hope no one notices that the text of the amendment just repeals the 19th. Not because it would work so much as for the lulz.

>>27529406
Because some politicians know how to talk about politics so that people aren't turned off, instead of zoomer-like retards that just say "my opinion is best, you're opinion is shit, accept it".

>>27530170
>just say "my opinion is best, you're opinion is shit, accept it".
Sounds just like NijiEN and Vshojo to me

>>27529637
Good thing doing that was always illegal. Abortions virtually never happen after you can already see the bump unless they suddenly find out it’s going to kill the woman later, but nice try.

>>27529624
And i'm surprised no one posted the entire thing yet. It's much worse and it's recently.

>>27526518
oof, um that's a yikes from me. Lets unpack this sweetie, but first take a shower and go outside

>>27526518
Fpbp

>>27528245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1aCPyLs-ko

>>27526837
the first no pairs with "pls NO". So she said it 4 times. She meant to always be political actually. You're all welcome
t. #

>>27529624
>but don't run back crying
They will, and people will buy it, because women are considered faultless.

>>27526502
No. It brings out the autism most American have regarding politics. I'm tired of hearing about politics can't even escape them while I'm watching football or basketball. Hololive in particular has done well in that regard. You don't want retards harassing the streamer from either side over their beliefs. Plus it gives me something to watch that does not push the dumb shit I'm trying to escape from.

Arguing about politics in normiespace has no benefit.

Any entertainer shouldnt talk about politic because they know jack shit about it and their knowledge only came from some viral tweets or hashtags

>>27530317
The funny thing is, tthe person talking about politics dressed like whore and talked like whore. If Korone expresses a slight of politic opiinion, I will stop for a moment and listen.

>>27530669
Stand up comedians talk about politics, and entertaining as hell. But Vshojo? Come the fuck on.

>>27526635
Unless the corp they work for removes their contract, vtubers never have any consequences. Their fans are the lowest of the low most desperate men on the planet.
Despite how big /vt/ talks, if a guy is already a pay pig for some vtuber, he's not going to stop until she graduates.

>>27526837
human rights aren't political

>>27530821
Only calli would kinda pull the conservative political talk probably shop a maga hat to her model and start talking shit about brandon lmao

>>27526837
t. retard who thinks bring gay is automatically political

>>27529210
The issue is, vtubing is relatively small in the grand scheme still and inviting politics in the west makes it quickly become us vs them because of identity politics. Sure, a couple commentary chuubas could exist, but the minute one of them gains any kind of appeal, the regular knuckle-draggers will fly into all vtuber spaces and start demanding statements from vtubers who are about the escapist fantasy.

it's pretty simple really
whenever anyone says anything political they're taking a stance, regardless of what you think is right or wrong, it's gonna make people agree, disagree or add on with what was said
people don't watch vtubers to hear them rant about whatever relevant popular political topic, there's a million people more qualified to listen to and discuss the topics with, no one's interested in a random person's generic surface level rant with no real substance whatsoever

>>27530821
Comedians talk about politics during their act for a punchline. VTubers talk about politics during their streams to propagate misinformation, force-feed the audience their views, and cultivate an audience of yesmen who will only ever agree with them. There is not a single streamer who has ever brought up politics in good faith.

>>27530944
If you have to bring the matter before the government, it’s political. Stop being retarded.

>>27526502
Sure, chuubas should be able to present themselves the way they want.
That being said, it's different if they're corpos and their contracts forbid them from doing so

>>27528245
If a woman is in love with you she'll copy your political views no matter how retarded those views are or aren't.

>>27530310
>virtually never happen
Don't be dishonest like that, anon. You should be disgusted with yourself.

>>27530690
>If Korone expresses a slight of politic opiinion, I will stop for a moment and listen.
Yeah, because the doog is wise

>>27526502
The one thing I liked about Melody was that she used to stay out of drama but ever since the Nux shit shes become a worse person

>>27531115
> There is not a single streamer who has ever brought up politics in good faith.
THIS x infinite

>>27530429
actual legend, i cant kneel any harder.

>>27530821
If I didn't know what the word "comedian" was supposed to mean I'd figure it's an insult for unfunny people.

The thing i hate about women like this is that they look like the girls that bullied me in high school for liking anime and minding my own business. You know the ones, bitchy, stuck up, won't give you the time of day unless you're chad, and of course, colored hair cuz "she's not like other girls". Now they realize they can inflate their ego with poor betas if they make an"anime" avatar and pretend to like the same shit. Vshojo is shit.

>>27531289
this... is actually a very wise line of thought

>>27528939
Bro, the schizos don't care. They still think they're going to fuck her

>>27531330

Nux gives everything terminal diseases. Everything in its proximity is infected with the same retardation.

>>27531165

Most women aren't interested in becoming leftists though. Women prefer men that wont victimize or self-deprecate themselves to "le fit in". Real men dominate.

>>27529637
Wait, why would anyone be against that? Unless your a christfag

>>27531423
its the fault of the dumb betas for falling for it in the first place.
Its like that male vtuber that pumped and dumped 12 different vtubers over just a few months. The chicks called him a scumbag, but it was their fault for falling for him.

>>27526502
They can discuss whatever they want. They should just be aware that discussing politics will likely cause then to lose a portion of their audience. It's their decision to make.

>>27526518
/thread

>>27531780
Qr

>>27526502
The vast majority of people, regardless of whether they are vtubers or not, do not have what it takes to discuss serious topics like politics, let alone formulate opinions around them. This applies to the audience too. Like a previous anon said, politics is almost never discussed in good faith. The audience's interpretation of a streamer's political viewpoints is likewise, almost never viewed in good faith.

>>27531142
Hololive is political then since the Taiwan incident. Checkmate, holofags.

>>27527143
No we don’t

>>27531780
But in your senario, who's getting chastized more by your average person? The guy or the women?
Men have always been slaves to pussy and will continue to be. Women have social power, men have responsibility. Now that women are gaining responsability as well, they realize maybe it isn't so great.

It's funny how many believe that their oshi would 3ven share even the SLIGHTEST political similarities with them. Let's face it, conservative women would never be vtubers, they prioritize motherhood and being some mediocre dude's wife above all else, every girl that becomes a vtuber will always be on your left on the political spectrum (including the japanese ones). Just because they don't say it outloud, doesn't mean they don't believe it, and what they believe is that the men who frequent here are even less than human. Though you all probably knew it, why else do you refuse to bring your beliefs in chat? You know she'd ban you and block you if she knew what your views on women are.

>>27532441
People on the Internet engaging in these topics are not conservatives and aren't looking for a conservative woman.

>>27531975
I don't have the screencaps but its just
>guy who knows how women work grooms a bunch of vtubers
>Picks them up and tosses them aside for a new one
>the chicks he got with find out he's been doing it to all of them
>they make callouts on twitter about him, warning other women about how good he is at working them over and the dropping them

They tried framing it as some "all men are scumbags" thing, but its really more "women are attracted to scumbags"

>>27532433
Things like prostitution and strip clubs have existed forever. But men who fall in love with the prostitutes and strippers are always seen as pathetic.
You're not actually fucking or even getting an irl display from vtubers, so if you donate money to them you are pathetic.

>>27526502
burgers are retarded and think that random shit like girls kissing, the theory of evolution, and basic medicine are political so anything you say will probably offend an american

>>27527125
Don't expand your sphere's of ignorance. You don't need to have an opinion on everything that is happening.

>>27526502
shes turned into the very thing she was fighting against..

>>27526518
/facts

>>27530317
>vtuber talks about political topics /vt/ doesn't agree with
>UGH this fucking whore ugh western vtubers amirite
>vtuber says some racist shit
>BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED!!!!!!!!
maybe get angry at retarded politicians enchroaching on our rights, forcing us to speak out about it, instead of shooting the messenger?
males are all fucking sociopaths it's unreal.

>>27532926
>You're not actually getting an irl display.
It's interesting to me that something like hostess clubs exist in Japan and that's what I'd compare to vtubing more than I would a strip club. You get pretty women to sit around you, validate your existance, talk flirty with you, and give you attention.
I really don't know why clubs like that haven't started to pop up in the US.

>>27534127
>vtuber talks about political topics
Wrong from the very start. Vtubers shouldn't give any political opnions regardless.

>>27534127
>vtuber says some racist shit
Which vtuber does this?

>>27528939
I mean, is that not just Asians in general, like they way more racist then people realize.

>>27528059
Incel? That involves being involuntary. I am celibate though. Gay friend told me the women in our work place would never stop talking about me saying "He's so mysterious" and what not. But I'm not an open book or have social media...so I end up rejecting them. Modern age is full of lies and isn't worth it.

>>27534523
More like weebs don't want to accept reality. Koreans are even worse.

>>27530310
>5000 abortions every year are third trimester
>virtually never happens
nice gaslighting

>>27526502
They're free to talk politics if they want to, but they can't complain about people leaving them over it. Your audience has freedom to chose too.

>>27534615
tedchama?

>>27526502
Generally no, but I would be more accepting of it if they all didn't have the same braindead leftoid opinions

>>27534722
Only ironic weebs don’t like racist Japanese. Koreans, however, are dog people.

>>27526518
Are you me

>>27535112
are you an NPC that parrots the same copy paste opinion as everyone else here?
most likely.

>>27534956
Close enough.

>>27530317
Why do these people all talk exactly the same

>>27534207
Its because Japan has a herbivore men problem. Men who don't want to fuck bitches, but want a chick to fix their life for them.
Also its not just an issue of what men want, I'm sure most women in the US would prefer working a titty bar than a Japanese-style hostess club. It'd be hard for western women to hide their disdain for men like that.

>>27526601
>untapped market potential

>>27526518
fpbp

>>27535387
either no opinions of their own or feel their own opinions aren't "cool", so they just parrot whatever the current thing is

>>27535387
ever hear the saying "I'm not like the other girls"

>>27526502
There is a time and place for everything. Vtubers are for entertainment not politics. Of-course a grifter attention whore wouldn't be able to help herself.

>>27526518

> I JUST SPENT 3 FUCKING HOURS LOOKING FOR AN OLD TWEET OF A WESTERN VTUBER TO GET ANGRY AT!!!! NOW I'M FUCKING MAAAAAAADDD!!! GRRRRRR!!!
> I-I..I'M GONNAAAAAAAAA SEEEEEETHEEEE ON /VT/!!!!!
> THESE HECKIN FUCKING WHORES WHORES WHORES WHORES WHORES WHORES WHORES WHORES!!!!!
> HOLOLIVE IDOLRINO GOOD WESTERN CORPOS BAAAAADDDD CHUD!!!

>>27526518
based

>>27535924
Nina has mostly been well behaved despite being a grifter attention whore

A reminder that her tweet is from two weeks ago, so if it seems old to you, you're probably a retard with the attention span of Gura.

>>27531165
This is unironically true, had a GF who dragged me out to the country because "fucking cityfags are degenerates nobody needs to live in a city" or whatever, and dumped her 2 years later. She apparently met a guy online outside of San Fran and got addicted to Ubereats shit and gained like 30 pounds. Hilarious.

>>27531289

No, not because I agree or disagree with their political stances, but because I would never go to a Vtuber or an Actor to hear what their political stances are.
Even "political" Twitch streamers/Youtubers arent welcome, there's no way in hell I'd want to listen to the ramblings of visible NEETs or even ex-NEETs.

>>27526518
Based

>>27526502
It's a basic showbiz rule not to sew division in your audience, but if she wants to alienate people, then by all means.

>Wait, is that a MALE in my heckin' VTuber collab? *THROWS MONITOR* God I fucking hate MALES! Fuck MALES, fuck BFE, heil GFE, and heil Yuribait!
> Wait, mentioning a MALE on my heckin GFE KINO COMFY Minecraft stream?!! *PUNCHES monitor* who these WHORES think i am?!! i just donated FUCKING 100$ this YEAR!
> Wait, this WHORE didn't stream today... *smashes keyboard* DOESN'T she have ANY FEELINGS? SHE'S my VIRTUAL GIRLFRIEND! NOW I'M FUCKING LONELY

>>27536875
> It's a basic showbiz rule not to sew division in your audience, but if she wants to alienate people, then by all means.

>>27529637
Living is misery. To die before even being born is a blessing I wish I had. I will not take that right from others.

>>27526502
imagine thinking that something like this would be "swept under the rug" if vtubers weren't talking about it. is this what protagonist syndrome means?

>>27536394
Lol it's okay sweetie some day you'll find a man to barely tolerate you

>>27536968
The suicidal should not have rights. Just throw yourself in front of a train and rid the world of your taint.

>>27536877

>>27537157
To die alone is selfish. I won't ignore the suffering of others, I'm taking them too, when I'm ready.

> iMagiNe thiNking that sOmething LIKe this wOulD be "swEpt uNder the rUg" if vtUbeRs werEn't talking abOut it. is tHis What protAgonist syndRome Means?

>>27537157
>Just throw yourself in front of a train and rid the world of your taint.
Please anon. Some of us actually have to catch the train on time, don't ruin it for us.

>>27526502
Only on matters I agree with

>>27526518
thread should of ended here

>>27528245
Go back troon

>>27528304
Abortion is murder. Seethe and dilate.

>>27537479
How rude of me. I'm sorry.

>>27526601
This, just look at the cancer election tourists have brought in on this place

There's politics all over the internet, why can't we have just one space where we don't worry about that shit and have fun?

>>27529637
Its a fetus, it's not even sentient. Granted it'd be better to not abort super late in pregnancy but it's better than post-pregnancy where it gets aborted in America's weekly school/church/work/mall shootings.

>>27526502
>no politics
How am I supposed to coom then

>no muh escapism, muh safe space!!!
Kys.

>>27535447
Yeah, you aren't wrong.

>>27526518
unfathomably based

>>27530944
It is and always will be.

>>27526502
Would be fine, if it wasn't for americans aping out, when they hear that a vtuber isn't retarded like they are.

>>27538067
Because you don't get to decide what vtubers do.
Why do you want a safe space anyway? Just close the stream, fag

>>27538140
>t it's better than post-pregnancy where it gets aborted in America's weekly school/church/work/mall shootings.
I can think I agree with rightiods when they say "the leftists are evil". How can a sentient person even say such things??

>gets humiliated
>starts posting wojaks
Kek

>>27538067
Because the people who insist on politics everywhere don't actually want politics either, they just want their own opinions reflected back at them and enforced everywhere. People don't get to be free to not agree with them.

>>27538716
>Because you don't get to decide what vtubers do.
If enough people think like me, we do, and seeing as how Hololive is still the biggest name in the vtuber industry, most people agree.

>>27538828
kwaychamas are not very bright

>>27538716
>Because you don't get to decide what vtubers do.
go back to twitter, faggot. we do get to decide. we're customers and they're providing us with a service. if i don't like a service i'll sure as hell let them know, and if enough people do that they'll change to pander to our preferences. it's that simple.

>>27526518
fpbp
>caring what a woman thinks about politics
>caring what an anime woman thinks about politics
top fuckin kek

>>27536875
Movies, podcast, YouTubers, tv shows talk about politics all the time. Some thrive on it.
Why can't we have a political commentator vtuber? Or a political commedian?

>>27526502
see vshojo see gay flag i don't care

>>27539149
>Let them know
You mean you'll scream in autistic eage here, like a seething incel

>>27526502
Western vtubers were a mistake

>>27526502
What happened to vshojocucks saying she's one of the harmless ones or has the smarts to know not to do this

>>27539198
VTubers are pseudo-gfs. Do you want a girl who talks about politics anon?

>>27539303
by not supporting them anymore and watch someone else primarily. i think you're projecting judging by how you're acting in this thread desu.

>>27530944
They 100% are.

>>27539388
checked.
Isn't this the bitch who seethes about loli but made her entire career being loli bait?

>>27534486
The japanese ones who have no idea what english words mean.
>>27534127
You will never have a womb

>>27539409
Yes.

>>27539483
No that's nyanners. Who's good friends with Ken ashcorp if you want another layer of her hypocrisy.

>>27530944
Anon abortion isn't a human right. Neither is ass fucking.

I am yet to hear a good reason why having an anime avatar precludes you from talking about politics. The best anime touch on political topics.
The only argument I keep hearing is:
>Because I don't like it

>>27539730
Why not?

>>27539855
>The basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are considered to be entitled, often held to include the rights to life, liberty, equality, and a fair trial, freedom from slavery and torture, and freedom of thought and expression.
In what way do abortion and ass fucking apply?
Other than possibly life threatening pregnancies, which pretty much everyone agrees should give the option for abortion.

>>27526502
"Muh historical movement!" - for a fucking fraction of America. As always Melody proves to be absolutely retarded dipshit that nukes herself out of relevance.
Watch out her viewership dropping to sub 1k. This woman should be banned from talking outside of stream for safety of V-Shojo.

>>27539545
They never say anything interesting though, regardless if their political flag. Not even the ones who make a career out of it.

>>27540159
>Muh money

>>27526502
No, and neither should athletes or regular celebrities.

>>27526518
First Post Based Post

>>27540233
Yeah, it's about money. This bitch is working for company and currently she's actively scaring away their potential customers.

>>27526518
anon I love you

>>27540196
t. Misogynist

>>27540432
Shut up and make me a sandwich.

>>27540334
Guilt by association is pretty gay. If you'd stop watching one of the other girls because of something someone else said how are you better than a bugman?

>>27540334
>He doesn't know
Check kson's twitter.

>>27540408
Thanks, I love you too.

>>27530944
"Human rights" don't exist.

>>27531004
>mori
>conservative
holy cope

> get woke, go broke
It was proven right so many times in the past years, see Disney, NBA, Gillette, Netflix, mass journalism, and so much much more. I'd like to add a famous vtuber as an example in my list

>>27540699
They are a basic set of principles backed by military might, which can be used by those nations subscribing to them to attack those that are perceived not to.

>>27540334
>Corporate profits are more important than self expression

>>27530944
>human rights aren’t political

>>27526518

>>27540159
Thx for the example

>>27540763
>Wokeism is the only political stance.

My dick would instantly go soft if a vtuber started screeching about the following:

>BLM
>trans rights
>gun control
>Ukraine
>global warming
>face masks
>COVID-19
>roe v wade
>Joe Biden

>>27526518

Vast majority of vtubers shouldn't talk politics (or anything of substance really) because they're usually basement dwelling morons. Entertaining basement dwelling morons, but morons nonetheless.

>>27541043
>>Joe Biden
HOES RIDIN'

is this pic a political opinion?

>>27541922
Yes and you should be sent to a work camp for 30 years.

>>27526518
Based and Islam-pilled.

>>27526502
Anyone can have whatever opinions they want about anything, including politics. But if you bring that into the sphere of entertainment I am watching I will stop watching because I'm trying to be entertained not be reminded of the same shit I would get from turning on the TV. Like I'm pro abortion and pro gun and anti big business and anti blm, but I wouldn't stream that to fans because that's not why people watch vtubers.

>>27530380
This post was written by transexual hands.

>>27541043
> Joe Biden
YOU enter the Roosevelt room
YOU take YOUR seat

>>27526502
Forget the 180 on her own rule. Notice the change in her attitude over the past 2 years? The bigger you get, the more of an asshole you become.

>>27526665
missed

>>27542439
Yeah, I remember good, old, gay times when her community and her attitude were this safe space for people tired with politics and other bullshit ruining fun. Sad to see it going this but I guess either you die as a hero or...

>>27542256
>Vtubers should only cater to me
I don't watch vtubers to escape. I just like anime girls

>>27526502
That depends. If they are informed and have opinions that don't just parrot whatever the glowing rectangle is saying at the time, I don't mind it that much. Though if they have wrong opinions they'll still filter me eventually for reason I'm not gonna go into. Thing is, Vtubers aren't exactly known to be political scholars or philosophers, they have the most basic bitch uniformed takes on politics humanly possible to have. It's like celebrity takes, they are so lame it's completely unbearable. If I tune into CNN, the news anchors will tell me exactly what the average vtuber opinion is without them ever having to open their big mouth.
The only vtuber I've ever heard say anything interesting about politics is some independent one called Futakuchi Mana, and I vehemently disagree with almost everything she says. I don't like her even one bit. Still, I listened to what she had to say because it wasn't something I heard thousands of times before wholesale. Well, that's not entirely correct, I have heard it thousands of times before, but coming from a different mind and interpretation of the doctrine.

>>27541043
>face masks
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKpbaZWXUTkGUKBmZ4ZUFxw/

>>27526502
Wasn't she the same one spouting stuff about LGBT a few weeks ago? Ironic.

>>27530944
Sodomy and ritual sacrifice aren't human rights.

>>27526502
Vtubers are too broad a category to say they shouldn't. You can be a political commentator with a Vtuber avatar if you want, it all depends on your brand.

>>27526502
streaming is already a borderline unethical industry that prays on the worst and loneliest the internet has to offer. preaching anything, politics or otherwise is just asking for trouble.
it would be like if a casino tried to push economic reform onto the people it's sucking money from, nobody there wants to hear it.

>>27543368
Well, Melody's niche was being an anime e-thot for disillusioned and lonely weebs and counterpoint to your typical fleshy e-thot. Currently she's doing everything in her power to prove that in fact she's no different than her fleshy counterparts, effectively nuking her own fucking platform.
Melody is a fucking retard but desu it's nothing new.

>>27543225
It's because most vtubers are prime groomer bait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjnY423qre8

>>27543830
Is she actually hemorrhaging viewers?

>>27543912
I've seen her stream to less than 1k viewers

>>27543912
Not sure about Chaturbate but her number are pretty stagnant on Twitch with spikes only when she's doing something really big. We gonna see what will happen now when she's openly showing her true colors but again - considering that her main audience were weeby bois tired of leftoid politics and real women I expect her to drop hard.

>>27543830
I dont watch her nowadays but when I see her name on twitch it's barely over 1k. She use to pull 3k+ easy.

>>27526518
FPBP

Women should never have had ANY rights to goddamn begin with. They're not even human. They're lower than subhuman. So are their simps.

If you're indie (or vshojo I guess) you have every right to be political if you want to, but then you better not whine about the inevitable consequences. You WILL lose viewership from people who are sick of hearing political arguments and just wanna watch anime girls being cute; you WILL attract an audience of extremists who think you're an ally even if you're not as extreme as they are; you WILL be attacked by people on opposite end of the spectrum; your twitter timeline and comments section WILL be in a constant state of shit flinging. If that sounds like fun, knock yourself out.
I for one am glad that are companies that restrict their talents enough to protect from falling into this stressful life. They're better off this way even if they have to hold back on a few things they might want to say every once in a while.

>>27544842
You can make being political work though.
Pippa is a powerhouse in terms of superchats compared to the size of her channel.

>>27526502
Youtube demonetizes channels for badwords so it's up to the streamer to kill their career and die in poverty or not.

>>27545001
Pippa is a shitposter, she doesn't argue politics.

>>27545782
This. It's different to be an actual polituber like Eris and to just shitpost like Pippa.

>>27539503
>You will never have a womb
thank you for reaffirming my transition

>>27543830
Why do people keep making this comparison? 90% of e-thots don't talk about politics. Have you ever watched them or you just parrot what vt says?

>>27534127
>maybe get angry at retarded politicians enchroaching on our rights, forcing us to speak out about it, instead of shooting the messenger?

When the clog shot was forced upon children you attacked the dissenters. When the gun control laws encroach, the god-given right to protect you property and your loved ones, you celebrate. When the muzzle laws were enforced you supported it. And when Brandon admitted democracy is a joke you laughed along. But when the rights of healthy babies lives are acknowledged as valuable, precious and dignified therefore worthy of mercy and compassion as all human life is, you screech uncontrollably like the disgusting devil spawn that you are.

Shut your fucking mouth, cut your tongue and break your fingers. Your opinions are shit and your mind is rot, you have and will never produce anything of value.

picrel

>>27546342
t. least schizophrenic trump supporter

>muh abortions
My country banned that for a while and then it got revoked.
It's all smoke and mirrors you idiots, especially in case of USA.

>>27526502
WOAH A LITERAL WHORE BEING A FUCKING MORON? What has the world come to?

>>27546342
this

>>27540826
Yes.

>>27546342
Unbelievably based

>>27546342
holy based

>>27526518
a whole lotta king shit

>>27546424
In general, unrestricted freedom leads to rakehell people. It's better to enforce a few guidelines.

Sure. It's on you if you're retarded enough to listen.

>>27526502
The job of a vtuber is to entertain me, not give me their poorly formulated political hot takes.

I don't care. Dance monkey. Make me laugh. Say funny words. I don't give a shit what your politics are.

>>27531289
Doomer doggo is wise beyond her years.

>watching and being fans of women who can only do this job while having the freedoms guaranteed to them by modern countries
>women should have no rights! XD
this is why nobody takes rightoids seriously.

>>27539787
It doesn't preclude it. A vocal portion of it don't want it and just want to be entertained, As soon as a vtuber talks about politics its going to piss off someone whatever side it is. Thats why good vtubers avoid it and seek only to entertain their viewers. Those that want validation for whatever hot take they have can talk about it. Just dont be suprised when others start flinging shit two. Also soceity and individuals change througout your life so commiting to any stance publically can have an effect down the line.
On the example of abortion I know wome that were pro and changed to anti after going through pregnancy themselves and some that were anti that choose to get one after getting knocked up by the wrong guy.

Tldr dont seek validation for your political opinions in a public forum

>>27534127
> vtuber talks about political topics /vt/ doesn't agree with
> UGH this fucking whore ugh western vtubers amirite
> twitter agrees with the chuuba, virtue signals them for 2 seconds and then fucks off
> vtuber says some BASED shit
> BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED!!!!!!!!
> instantly sub and watch streams
> twitter tries to behead the chuuba in the name of allah

>>27546342
fucking based

>>27547775
Enloghten us on why women need to be allowed to vote and kill children to work as chuubas.

>>27526502
If the vtuber does politics, then it's just a streamer with a virtual avatar, not a vtuber.

>>27526518
Based as fuck

>>27547775
Wom*n worked as entertainers long before suffrage bs and the modern world. What are you even talking about retard?

>>27547775
God I wish my country would have the same politics as japan

if I complain about gas prices, is it political?

>>27540029
And how does pussy fucking apply?

>>27547775
Women have worked as entertainers even when they were commodities at best. Your brain's been fried by them.

>>27535447
Let me tell you of a story of a little indian who thought the same thing who ran a youtube channel named "Internet Bloodsports"

>>27526518

Why are sodomites so annoying

>>27548512
>no argument
kek

It's really up to the individual talent or their agency. If you don't like what they say you can always watch someone else.

Personally as long as their opinions come from actually wanting to make the world a better place in general I really don't care unless the conclusions they're coming to are wack-job shit.

>>27548055
>B-BUT THINK OF LE CHILDREN
thought black lives dont matter /pol/bro?
>>27548304
>>27548374
yeah as watered down and muzzled versions of themselves with no creative control over whatever production they were working for.
the independent vtubing scene wouldn't exist if women had no rights, most of the corporate scene in it's current form wouldn't exist either.
then again you are most likely fine with corporations like youtube banning holo summer/swimsuit streams for example, so you would most likely be fine with more drastic government overreach into womens life.

>>27549254
Answer the question, tranny. Why do women need to be allowed to vote and kill children to work as chuubas?

>>27544728
>Women should never have had ANY rights to goddamn begin with. They're not even human.
Thank you for articulating this - we should also consider internet usage a right, and revoke it from women.

No, because they're vtubers. Non of their opinion is valid.

>>27549254
>yeah as watered down and muzzled versions of themselves with no creative control
And this led to the cultural renaissance of early to late colonial period of Europe

>>27526502
Should be allowed? Sure, they are free people and are allowed to say whatever the fuck they want. But they should also be prepared for any consequences. In case of Melody she's doing everything to scare away her already miserable and flatlining viewerbase.

>>27526518
this should be a /vt/ banner

>>27549425
The don't, they need to be allowed to vote and have fetuses surgically removed from them at the very least if the fetus is incredibly likely to kill them even in the third trimester, and for pretty much any reason before that.

Trying to rationalize that you're better than other people and stripping their rights away is god damn barbaric, but I'm sure I'm shouting into the /pol/ void.

>>27547775
>who can only do this job while having the freedoms guaranteed to them by modern countries
These are just virtual oiran

>>27549947
>they need to be allowed to vote
"No"

are there any vtubers who openly oppose abortion? (PrayersfromAbigail doesn't count)

>>27549425
because if modern nations reach the point where they seriously consider not allowing women to vote anymore, then we are at the stage where religious zealots or other hardliners have taken over and they will do everything in their power to ban any kind of weeb shit, vidya, any kind of actual creative expression (see bugmen for a good example of this).
furthermore, women under a system like this would not be incentivized to go out on their own and create a streaming career, especially in a niche field like vtubing.

obviously the choice of abortion alone has no impact on vtubing right now, i just think killing children is based.
>>27549872
you mean despite christ- and conservicucks doing everything they can do ban anything even remotely creative. art is and will always be liberal, deal with it chud.

>>27526502
Good luck. Politics is no longer content to lurk in the shadows. Roe V Wade was only the first incident. Politics is on a warpath aiming to send the USA back to the 1950s and turning every Burger chuuba into housewives. The clusterfuck will only escalate.

>>27550048
Your oshi after I impregnate her

>>27548920
>as long as their opinions come from actually wanting to make the world a better place in general
Thats what everyone wants, you fucking retard. The thing is, "better place" is so relative and up to the person that it has no real meaning and could be whatever anyone can think of, often leading to fucktarded takes, endless arguments and the chuubas banning anyone who doesn't agree with them.
>>27549254
Now you're gonna tell me belly dancers needed rights to dance, entertain men and suck their dicks for money a couple of centuries ago.

>>27550146
If we're going back to the 50s can we at least raise taxes back to what they were on the wealthy?

>>27550054
>you mean despite christ- and conservicucks doing everything they can do ban anything even remotely creative. art is and will always be liberal, deal with it chud.
This is on the same level of "the church caused the dark ages because they convinced everyone that fire was witchcraft" as if the churches didn't commission the Sistine chapel, gothic, and baroque arts from the 1400-1700s period

>>27550054
>ban any kind of weeb shit
It's okay actually
I despise japan anyway

>>27526518
God I love this website