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* YESTERDAYS' FINAL TALLY *>41,447: Tenkai Tsukasa (Indie)>32,929: Botan (Hololive)>29,741: Miko (Hololive)>26,244: Ponpoko (Indie)>22,336: Mumei (Hololive)>19,997: Okayu (Hololive)>17,648: Nene (Hololive)>16,076: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>15,421: Vox (Nijisanji)>13,371: kson (VShojo)>13,307: Mio (Hololive)>12,143: Chihiro (Nijisanji)>11,972: Korone (Hololive)>11,866: Flare (Hololive)>11,743: Koyori (Hololive)>10,940: Reid (Neo Porte)>10,934: Axia (Nijisanji)>10,892: Polka (Hololive)>10,503: Towa (Hololive)>10,166: Ina (Hololive)
peace oh and>>27517644her room being renovated to fit her streaming style and isn't finished yet
Kobo passed gura???
>>27517739JULY 2022 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong>PER COMPANY3x: Hololive1x: Indie>PER STREAMER1x: AZKi, Miko, Subaru, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY121x: Hololive53x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER18x: Pekora16x: Aqua15x: Salome13x: Miko12x: Kuzuha9x: Subaru6x: Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Okayu2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mori, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Ru
gura killer>gura killergura killer>gura killergura killer>gura killer
>>27517677>Final /news/ roundup for 04-07-2022>>27467434 Top ID Vtubers agencies>>27399643 HoloX overlap chart>>27388638 Recent Clip Numbers>>27385639 >>27385686 >>27385868 >>27385907
>>27517764No. She's nowhere near gura's number.
>>27517764Yehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cjzu1UnoKo
>>27517821Anon?
OH NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>A 20k sololiver Indonesian streamer that does zero pandering to EOPs and JopsWhy the fuck is EN3 being delayed? This is embarrassing. And western fans are so domesticated that they're actually mostly ok with how things are atm.
>20kGold candidate?
EN vtubers kneel to the demon lord, speak a language that no one understand get 20k.
Hololive is winning so much that detractors have to use EN vs JP vs ID again?Can't Nijisanji offer something good?
here come the coping niji false flags
>>27517855pffft, maybe when salami didn't exist
>>27517855Still 30k away from Salami
>>27517807More recent clip numbers>>27454104 >>27454131 >>27454326 >>27454354
>>27517855No one can beat salome today anon.
Kobo 21K get
>>27517855salome is the current gold at 49.8k
Pre-primetime /news/ update for 05-07-2022> Sony's VEE 'tuber group holding a 'Minecraft Hero King' hardcore Ender Dragon race event on July 16th (https://vee-official.jp/en/special/minecraft-hardcore/).). Several indies also invited.> Sekai Saionji from School Days becomes a VTuber (https://youtu.be/yChfxNyvb-U).). Appears to be the same VA.> Moona's Karaoke stream gets suspended for 'policy violations' (youtu.be/ynJ7GwxIna8). She has rescheduled it for today at 10pm JST. She later mentioned that it could have been due to manual reports and not an automated ban (https://twitter.com/haruharukin16/status/1544188094844633088).).> AkiRose birthday goods sales ending at 6pm JST today (https://twitter.com/akirosenthal/status/1543870745708679169).).> Lui and Laplus get sponsored to play IdolMaster Million Live today at 7pm JST (https://idolmaster-official.jp/news/01_4333.html).).> Aqua joins Pop Up Parade figure series (https://twitter.com/GoodSmile_US/status/1544157891527155712).).Previous : >>27467434
>>27517881I don't get it, how did Nijisanji squander so many opportunities to get big? And when they did, the fans will come and defend them like bloody zealots.
>>27517891>Salami 35thHoly recline
>>27517764Yes
Nijisanji really fucked up with their EN branch. Instead of aiming to gain a foothold on the western market, they actually went for the sea/chinese which not only didn't expand their reach, it even cannibalized the audience of their JP and Virtua Real branches.Meanwhile, Hololive has slowly strengthened their position in JP/EN/ID markets. I can't wait for them to go to KR or ES next.
>>27517901Accept Miko, Pekora and Marine. Did you forget these three embarrass Salome during her streams?
This is impressive is it not? Gura probably might not even have this many playing the same game.
>>27517841Honest question mate, are Kobo's fans mostly ID? Do you guys know how many are chatting in indo?
>>27517957they didn't go for the chinese market, what the fuckthe males became popular there on their own, the girls all aimed for the western market
>>27517927Just like the whole company
>>27517957vox makes more in SCs than all of myth and council combined.
>>27517891Hololive gets 10M clip views per day, that's bigger than Mr.Beast average viewership.
>>27517985Yeah sure, Vox the 2k shitter
>>27517979All her chat is ID. All her commentary is ID. Sometimes she says a thing or two in JP and some stray EoP comments on her chat. But it's about 95% ID only.
>>27517979Hololive ID stopped being EN lite and pivoted back to ID a year ago and it's amazing that their gamble actually paid off.
So does this count for the International tally or did that switch back to EN only?
>>27517915Bless you anon
>>27517739kek, Botan had the Holo gold yesterday?
Pekora cooking tonight https://youtu.be/Zk8L5ONGoNk
>>27517985Provide the numbers. Are you talking in month or yearly?
>>27517985SC cope timeloop this early? Pls get new material.
>>27517957>it even cannibalized the audience of their JP and Virtua Real branches.Stale as fuck conspiracy theories, especially since we have vrabi to check common chatters and there's 0 overlap
>>27518055Gold.
>>27518055RIP Salome, fucking hell Pekora with the save.
Just came back to the vtubers scene due to holocure and started to be interested in the holos again. There is a hiatus of 1 year so you can tell me whether my perception is correct or not.1. Pekora is still Pekora, going strong, however her ccv does not grow together with her sub count, just 30k+ like a year before2. Where are the ENs? Very little streams and very little publicity outside of 3D collabs. I kinda like Kiara now more than before. Her streams looks much tolerable3. Sort of catch up with the Mike the cat incident and yesterday's kson cope stream, I guess the only ex-holo that was not sold to the devil now is Aloe, huh.4. HoloX, the 6th generation. They seem kinda bland, at least for now, and in their small group, I think it is already half a year now? Not too much interaction with other gens. My favourite 2 are Chloe and Laplus, both happens to have the most sub count, though I like Laplus more due to her voice and wit. Also I kinda notice La+ keep doing those sponsored streams, and she is the only one having non - holo roommate. I still can't hear the "knocks" from the stream, by the way.Talking about numbers, HoloX to be honest is not too impressive.Anything that I got completely wrong here? I would also like a lot more info on the 6th gen but seems like there are not much interest in them yet in the EN/SEA scene.
>Kobo 21k>On a non milestone celebration, gaming stream.I... I think I need to take my meds. I'm starting to think that she might have the potential to be a high tier holo (>15k CCV)
>>27518055Yeah easy salome gold. Pekora can get 30k-40k with this but i doubt she can beat salome.
https://twitter.com/KawaiiSensei_jp/status/1543920908942790656Holy numbers.I wonder if chuuba drawing tips streams would be popular.Does Ina do this type of learning content?
>>27517985
>>27517979she also show up in ID fleshtuber stream.
>>27517987Doesn't that guy get 40M average per video?
>>27517979probably 90% to 95%
>>27518042This only rings true for ID3 think. >>2751802595%? So the excuse that ID is a small market wasn't true after all. You just need a blue kusogaki I guess. I'm curious if Kobo will get a nendo first
does streamers and YT content creators have clip community too? i feel like only anime and vtuber community clips the hell out everything
>>27517985Supachats profits are an absolute meme after we found out Birthday merch sell out for $200k+ within a few minutes of their release to a 1million+ in a single month with Holos like Pekora alone.
>>27518114That's not SCs lol
>>27517982>And all cope nijinigger try to defend their gaymatesAnon. They clearly changing direction from NA to china/seaYes yes they popular on their own. BUT the fucking way they changed direction is the point anon
>>27518055potential gold?
>>27518112She did have her gesture series early onhttps://youtu.be/ilE_78nVEOA
>>27518091lol no. Her last 2 cooking/eating stream is not 50k stream anon.
>>27518129That's a week's worth of views, Hololive can easily get 50-60M clip views per week.
>>27517979Tiktok+Facebook zoomer cancer, but it is numbers.
>>27518096HoloX early streams were super fun, check out the dual ASMR with Koyo + Lap.They have established their own identity within Hololive as of now, perhaps you find them 'bland' because you haven't watched much of them.ENs have had their own events that got big numbers, but after the 2020 cull, their numbers have not recovered. VODs are still strong though.
>>27518096>Anything that I got completely wrong here?Not really, that would be the gist of it. You may have missed ID3 with Kobo, which is the next 1M chuuba from Holos in a few weeks and that just beat 20k CCV today playing getting over it.
>>27516798Because its an easily seen measure of popularity that go well with clueless advertisers. Cover shills subs in their marketing materials too. There’s no need to go in-depth with CCV, engagement, and VOD view rates, etc. which can easily change due to a host of factors. Most wont understand that shit. So big relatively stable number good. Also, my theory for Cover sponsorships with a B team is that its based on total sub-numbers. Client requests a 5M total sub marketing package with Aqua for example and 4 other holomems. Cover puts in Aqua then a group of mid and low tiers to fill in the sub difference. This theory is based on nips comments on that failing squeenix game where they said that it must have cost a lot for squeenix to get so many high subs streamers to shill their shitty game.
>>27518096>Anything that I got completely wrong here?>HoloX, the 6th generation. They seem kinda bland >I would also like a lot more info on the 6th gen but seems like there are not much interest in them yet in the EN/SEA scene.Lui collabed with most of EN and sometimes do englsih study streams, Koyori host a news show where she translate her pannel into english and sometimes talk about EN members
>>27518055Pekora, add 凸 in the title and turn it into totsu cooking for easy gold
>>27518178That's only with Luxiem
>this kobo streamnow THIS is sufferkino
>>275181810% chance anon. 50k is too steep.
>>27518153>This only rings true for ID3 think.Naw, that has been the case ever since the IDs left the JP MC server and got their own.Speaking of which, when the fuck are they going to link the ID server to JP? It's been so long since another MC event.
this faggot is doing another numbers stream after doing a 600k karaoke? Jesus christ.
>>27518099>recently just reached 900k subs>On a non milestone celebration, gaming streameven if she doesn't celebrate it on stream she however did tweeted about it so it likely have boosted her rn
>>27518264i dunno, the girls seem to be pivoting towards china too. guess the managers aren't happy with their numbers.
>>27518155Most of them hire editors and have their own highlights channel
>>27518099Well yes,Shes kinda mid-high tier in holo generalAlso her donation is quite nice, you can hear Socia Buzz notif every fcking 10 sec
>viewership drops>slams table>viewership goes up
>>27518276Based numberfag
Every single time # underestimate a Holo stream, they get better numbers.You guys are the reverse WAAAGH at this point.
>>27518096EN were all together for recording and offcollabs, so myth was pretty much MIA for 2 weeks. Everyone appears to be back home now though, so stream frequency will be going back to normal for EN. holoX is basically like NijisanjiJP in the audience they have. Will show up for events, and yea besides Koyori and Luo who have done a lot of stuff outside their gen they're still mostly self-contained.
>>27518153>This only rings true for ID3 think.If you've been following ID then you should've noticed it. Not only did they distance themselves with the EN language use, they also stopped going to JP Minecraft server. Ironically all these changes started after that Ollie rant. These were all deliberate.
>>27518309she's chinese
>>27518089>>27518091Nah, if she gets 50k for a cooking stream it will be a new record for that kind of content for her. Her last cooking stream had 45k.It is not impossible, but it's not any form of guarantee.
>>27517985>SC copeShow us the numbers of myth and council sc combined first voxsisters, is this the result of kobo's subs? Mind break
Kobo's stream died again kek
>>27518264HAHAHHAHHAAH>AND ALL THE LIES NIJINIGGERS SOMETHING SOMETHING
>>27518309She's literally chinese and it was a gimmick/challenge stream.
>>27518330No one underestimating holo numbers anon.50k is just way too hard to beat with regular content..
>>27518096kind of wrong about holox, both about laplus and their interactions with other gens
>>27518309>speak chinese but can't readWhat a dumb writing system
>>27518380Luxiem are the only wave with their own bilibili channels and are the only ones who have streamed there
>ID3 beating NijiEN's miracle gen and proving that ID was a branch to be had>EN 3 will kill NijiEN + wave 6 + new JP male gen once and for all
>>27518096>2. Where are the ENs? Very little streams and very little publicity outside of 3D collabs.Myth have been out offcollabing for the first time for the past week or so with some of Council tagging along. For the most part they've been busy with Gura and Kiara's birthday live and setting up Ame's new homegrown 3D studio that's going to be used for the rest of EN.
>>27518220>Client requests a 5M total sub marketing package with Aqua for example and 4 other holomems. >Cover puts in Aqua then a group of mid and low tiers to fill in the sub difference. I believe it’s more like a “bidding” process. Client says they want Aqua and Pekora, Cover says to take both they need fo take Aki and Polka too
the perception of this thread about holoX is stuck like 5 months ago, kind of like reddit a bit
>>27518320>some people are tabbed out, only listening (causes them not getting counted>they heard something unusual then checked what happened>YT counted them again
>>27517985Actually, he makes less than Gura, Kiara, and Mori combined. >https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-japan-monthlyThis is with streaming 23 times, as much as Kiara and Gura combined.
>>27518275Kinda soon?Moona point there gonna be around august perhaps or septemberArranging relay or big collab need a lot of timeAlso theyre connecting to EN server, she said theres SUPPOSED to be some monument shit in EN side but i havent see EN doing it
>>27518220We know some of their sponsorships have CCV targets by the youtube japan award they got for the Nissin collab that specified 50k ccv as a KPI. https://youtu.be/JKzOqaI65bU?t=135We also know that other sposoships have a VOD target from the Ina Miku Collab https://twitter.com/ColorfulStageEN/status/1536755906599329793
>>27518220Sub numbers isn't a factor. It's views on the vod and clicks like how many clicked on a link, how many people downloaded whatever it is they were asking to download. What they care about is the end goal so it's most likely for some to hire on views and stats like how many people watched a spons or how many bought the last stuff they advertised
Okay so I'm checking out Kobo for the first time and she's definitely different from the rest of ID because all she's doing is crying, screeching, and slamming her table like an actual kid. I guess this is what normies like these days? Fucking hell.
VOXNISAN THANK YOU FOR FULLFULING MY DESIRE
>>27518096Pekora this last month has something like 45k median.
Why are people saying that China is a good market for foreign entertainment? Those subhumans only care about themselves. Luxiem was probably forced by the higher ups to pander just because one of them is a zhong-li like streamer
jesus kobo, shes really ID pekora
>>27518404Bro, fucking pomu and en girl make an account on b2Reimu doing chinese duolinggo etc is a fucking proof theyre changing directionJst stop coping... Or cope more i like it
I hate susan
>>27518461oh just like ame.. who would have thought right!?! the only difference is that kobo is a loli and acts like one and also a blue chuuba
>>27518353you're not chinese if u can't read or write chinesefat bitch deserves to get disown for being such a disgrace
Thread is picking up pace
>>27518443holy shit, kaela is monster
>>27518456CCV metrics have likely either been phased out or changed since YT fuckery change, and Cover has the metrics to prove it with hard data, unlike us where we have some data and a ton of anecdotal shit.
>>27518276>【WORKOUT】RUNNING ON TREADMILL & LISTENING TO NIJIEN SONGS UNTIL 600K【NIJISANJI EN | Luca Kaneshiro】>600K UNARCHIVED ENGLISH KARAOKE >【MINECRAFT】I FIND NETHERITE FOR EVERYONE UNTIL I REACH 650K【NIJISANJI EN | Luca Kaneshiro】
>>27518482Unless she keeps going with the same numbers this month June can be seen as an anomaly due to both coming back from break and streaming less.>t.nousagi
>>27518096HoloX is the new Unity Gen. They were basically created to replace 3rd gen, and they're seemingly potentially up to the challenge due to not having any weak links
>>27518484Because they bought into the "Big population/number=lots of money" trap when in reality China has been actively making it harder to get money out of the damn country for foreign businesses lately.
>>27517915>She later mentioned that it could have been due to manual reports and not an automated banI dunno which retarded fanbase could be responsible.
>>27518042Man, I still remember most of /#/s lambasting the move because of the visible drop in viewership across all of HoloID. Rightfully so at the time since there was absolutely no indication that the IDbros would take to vtubers (Kobo in particular) like they do now. Makes me think that an ES or even KR branch succeeding may be possible after all.
>>27518426This thread doesn't talk about HoloX really, I don't even know what the general impression of them is.
>>27518456>VOD target from the Ina Miku CollabThat was honestly insane of a target. Ina getting to 150k views on a VOD isn't a guarantee these days and she only streamed for like 1 hr since it was a sponsored stream. There was a real chance that it wouldn't have reached 150k views if she didn't tell people how important of a target it was and they shilled the VOD multiple times to get it there.
>>27518509It's her internet. Nothing can be done when her room is fucked because her parents were dumb and the person they got to do the renovations for her room used the wrong wood, fucking over Kobo in the process since the chemicals were giving her some nasty side-effects.
>>27518461You just described Xqc so imma say yes
>>27518096Delta is almost guaranteed to join Vshojo.
>>27518498If Pomu's on b2 I don't see it in her profile and Reimu's doing it because she's throwing a bunch of shit out there trying to find any audience she can. I watch more NijiEN than is good for my mental health and there just isn't a big push for China for any wave other than Luxiem. I hope you enjoyed my cope
>>27518581> KR branch succeedingDidn’t that KR branch proved it could work? The only variable is: could it work **on Youtube**?Youtube is as foreign for the Korean audience as Twitch is for the Japanese audience
>10k goneGuess we can call her Kobot now?
>>27518600THE ISSUE with the VOD was that shit got blocked in a huge chunk of the world due to Sony fuckery.
>>27518195Pekora leveled up after coming backHer normal streams used to be 20-30k.Now her normal streams are more like 40kSo you have to scale up all the buffs accordinglyThis is easily a 50k stream, and I wouldnt be shocked if it got 60kYou fags just dont understand how crazy strong Pekora is right now. I dont know if this is her new normal or if the return buff will ever recede but right now she is the strongest she has ever been
>>27518611>holo member getting weird graph>i-its her internet!!>niji member getting weird graph>bots? botsthe absolute state of /#/
>>27518155the livestreamfail reddit is a clipping community but no one's making bank off that
>>27518644Cope
Kek she punched the table so hard her nail actually broke.>>2751864419k now.
>>27518461Her chat is basically UOOOOHHH spam
>>27518581Is it in doubt that those two branches would succeed numbers wise? ES would succeed for sure, the problem is revenue more than anything else. You'll get the numbers though, at least for a while because of the massive number of anime (read DBZ) fans in SA. Just look at Nimu until she blew herself up. Isegye shows HoloKR could have a shot too, though I will acknowledge that that's both a Twitch audience and an audience brought in from a different streamer.
>>27518581Exactly anon. I think HoloFes also helped a bit in legitimizing the ID talents. Risu and Moona wowed not on Eops but nips as well.
this kobo's kid kayfabe really good, i can feel the kids anger from her
>>27518620I honestly doubt it ever since she banned mentioning anything about Vshojo lately. It seems like she wants to just be left alone with her fanbase and stay tucked away in her little corner of the internet. She does really well for an indie anyway as her last stream got 10k+ views.
>>27518581ES is definitely possible. But then you get the ES fans en mass into the larger fan base. If they were isolated around one branch it wouldn't be an issue, but there is no guarantee for that.
>>27518661to be fair, it happens to the nijifags ALL THE FUCKING TIME. I think i've seen maybe 3 or 4 normal looking graphs from those homos.
>>27518656Im literally comparing her stream to her last 2 cooking/eating stream which peak around 43k+. Stop falseflagging.
>>27518620It's non-zero, if Kson was able to convince her using the same argument she put forth in when stream the other day.If she did, that's two menheras she's going to have to tardwrangle so they don't blow up and take down vshojoJP from within, so good fucking luck with that.
Does Nijisanji have its own 1st Army like Hololive?
>>27518641imo idol vtuber might works in korea.. i heard isegye idol doing pretty ok there..and from many music chart i check, south korea mostly top 3 audience for holomusic
>>27518656>So you have to scale up all the buffs accordingly>This is easily a 50k stream, and I wouldnt be shocked if it got 60kThey're using her last 2 cooking streams since her return, retard.https://vrabi.net/video/hRqaoj2WMv0https://vrabi.net/video/np69EW1z0BU
>>27518644her stream was completely dead for a few minutes
>>27518550Source for the metric change?
>>27518661Nijiseethe. Even Vox latest chart was not callled bottled despite this chart>pic relatedbecause it showed clear connection problems
>>27518644Her stream died.
>>27518644Stream dead fuckerWatch the graph
>>27518661Anon, Vox's fucked graph from yesterday was internet. If someone is able to verify what the fuckery is a result of, they say it here, you two-bit shitposting hack.
>>27518451Lol it's gonna be hilarious seeing the difference in ID vs EN server tours.EN was amazing only at the very beginning with Ame setting up a Spirited Away reference right off the bat.The rest of the server was eh for the most part, other than the InuYasha exit back to JP server.
>>27518705they have 1 man army
>>27518620If Delta was going to join VShojo she would have done it already along with Mike.
>>27518661Niji members get odd graphs when their streams suffer no hiccups while Kobo's stream literally died so your making a false equivalence.
If Hololive Summer is indeed returning, should they focus on July or August?
>>27518580every day said retarded fanbase ruins their reputation more and more.
>>27518705Absolutely yes. On the boys side, Chronoir + ROFMAO
>>27518309>Two streams in two months >The entire female NijiEN group is pivotiiingThe only one that has actually tried to pivot is Reimu
niji is now losing on all branches to the holos, JP, ID, and EN the IPO thingie might not work out
>>27518577I'm surprised Xi and friends haven't clamped down on VPN superchatting yet. Lots of lonely salarywomen and daughters of oligarchs sending money out of the country.
>>27517985>>27518166Holy kek this really reminds me back during 2019 in /vyt/ except everything's flipped. Holofags destroying nijis in superchats and nijis into merch cope.The only difference though is that holos had decent numbers to back them up at least.
so i assume every 1$ donation in kobo stream is teasing her ? shes really malding there
>>27518761they will introduce her gradually
>>27518656Not sure if false flagging grudgeposter or insane nousagi
>>27518661You can literally watch the internet fuckery in holo streams though…
>>27518791Kaida is kind of a 2k shitter so replace him with Salome.
>>27518656Anon, I only track Pekora's numbers. Her cooking streams after return are42.9k - Dragon Candy43.3k - Jrio RamenUnless she has 0 overlap (which she doesn't), I don't see 50k happen. I might be wrong and have to dogeza afterwards, but I don't see it.
>>27518724isegye is like the biggest chuuba group on twitch, then again niji KR was a massive shitshow.
>>27518620IF Kson and Rushia got a payment to join aka the $11 mil they had, would they even offer any to her? I don’t think it would make sense to.
>>27518656Anon?https://holo.poi.cat/stream/hRqaoj2WMv0If she beats 50k it'll be a big surprise.
If Pekora wants to win gold, she needs to step up her game, have someone call in or something
>>27518795You know what, theres more>CHINA LICKING TAIMU~
>>27518656Anon, you’re crazy. Unless the clear the slot and set up a funnel she will barely be beating 40k. Today is Salome Gold guaranteed, does not slip, she’s using snow tyres, chains and cleats on her shoes so when leaves the car she does slip either
>>27518731Look, there are two graphs of Lamy and Polka in December 2020 where suddenly their CCV gets slashed, live, and got logged on holostats. Also, all across the board from that day onward, all Hololive streams (since those are the ones we have the data for, rip vnuma) dropped in CCV but the views didn't change significantly until Jan-feb, where the drop in CCV likely resulted in number tourists checking out as well as people returning to their lives as restrictions were lifted in NA. I'm not at my home PC so I don't have the graphs handy, but I know someone here SHOULD have them handy.
>>27517985SISTER COME ON AND SLAM, IF YOU WANNA JAM
>>27518810>hoshikawa can't even break 4kisn't she one of the top nijis? what happened? she barely got more than 20k on a fucking outfit reveal last month too.
>>27518791Kanae is a 10-12k shitter along with Fuwa. Toya could give the girls a run for their money but he has the no stream buff, while kuzuha depends on his game choices. Kagami and Kaida are shitters who were placed in a unit with two other popular boys.
Homobeggars can be pretty fucking retarded at times.
kobo needs 5-7 minutes to bounce back to his original number after susan's fucked up
>>27518817Ssshhh stop it anonHes coping hard rn
>>27518498>pomu and en girl make an account on b2Since when? And she has never streamed on b2Lazulight was part of some b2 nijiworld event last year. But that was way before Luxiem even debuted and that was just Lazulight singing DCL and wasnt on their channels or anything. Had some song from every branch back then
>>27518819Nah, that’s the thing. He might be a midget alone but the units have a pull. Anything with the boys together in 3D is a serious gold candidate any day
>>27518776AugustThey have to wait for lamy's return.
>>27518826Marine will stream at 20:00 unless Marine funnels for her, it's impossible to beat Salome
>>27518807If you look at the SC rankings the past few months, it's really changed from last year. A lot more males in the top 10 (events for NijiMales + Vox) and on the Holo side, only Chloe hangs with Vox. Losing Coco and Rushia basically took out 2 guaranteed top 10 holo spots in the SC rankings.
>>27518858>call inShe just has to let pekomama cook alongside her
>>27518894they're right
>>27518879sucking Hal's dick
>>27518810>650k "endurance"It's good that they keep commemorating these momentous events.
>>27518620Menhera division.
>>27518807We have confirmation from official sources that superchat revenue is basically just pocket money for Holos, Yagoo went on an interview and said it was not a primary revenue source.
>>27518807We actually have hard numbers on merch profits now so we can actually make a comparison between the two and if you take into account that Merch profits goes directly to the Holos themselves than theirs really no contest on what's better at least in terms for Hololive. Azki recently made like $240k with her birthday merch recently for example.
>>27518810Damn even Kronii's MC can reached 15k-17k with insane stability, is MC only a buff in Hololive?
>>27518865>Today is Salome Gold guaranteedDepends what Marine ends up doing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qb9q1fAWFM
>>27518933it's really sad.
>>27518894He’s not wrong. There is no connection between “talent”, “chemistry”, “entertainment” and numbers. People can get numbers without being entertaining, people can be absolutely entertaining and not get numbers.
junchama..
>>27518970No. Even her zatsudan peak is just around 40k and i highly doubt she will play holocure.
>>27518970If Marine is doing HoloCure again, expect dive bombing to happen the 2nd time.If all else fails, just pull out HoloCure, that's one buff Niji can never have.
>>27518894Nijibeggars and homobeggars are the same people, they all work the same way
>>27518956>if you take into account that Merch profits goes directly to the Holos themselves than theirs really no contest on what's better at least in terms for Hololive. Azki recently made like $240k with her birthday merch recently for example.Two things. You're assuming 0 company cut and 0 production costs when doing these merch profit calculations. We know how much SC gets cut by corpo and youtube. We have no idea how much actual cut the members get from merch.
>>27518997You don't know what she's going to do, retard. I know you Nijifags are desperate for wins after getting blown out by fucking AZKi, but neck yourself.
The Annihilator of AnyColor. The Bane of Bugs. The Crusher of Chinks. The Destroyer of Deflections. The Empress of Engagement. The Finisher of Fujoshi. The Garroter of Gays. The Hit-Man of Homos. The Imperator of Indonesia. The Jarl of Jest. The Killer of Karens. The Liquidator of Luxiem. The Murderer of Males. The Nuker of Nijiniggers. The Obliterator of Otomes. The Priestess of Pussy. The Queen of Quotas. The Ryujin of Rain. The Sultan of Subs. The Terminator of Troons. The Usurper of Untermenschen. The Vanquisher of Vox. The Warden of Winning. The Xenophobe of Xenogeny. The Yardmaster of Yumejoshi. The Zapper of Zhangs.THE BANE OF FUJOS.THE CHINKBUSTER 3000.THE BRINGER OF "INDOCHADS WW@"THE RAIN SHAMAN OF FEMCEL TEARS.KOBO KANAERU THE ZHANG REMOVER.KANAERU KOBO THE FUJO DESTROYER.ENTERKOBO
>>27518879dead subs. not unique to hoshikawa
NijiID... Beaten by an ID Hololite.NijiKR... Beaten by isegye, a KR Hololite.
>>27518894>About as talentedBrings up a collab
>>27519023homobeggars actually just nijibeggars oboretai
>>27519021>that's one buff Niji can never have.based kay yu. the niji manager runs away at the sight of holoEN.
>>27518948Did Luca surpass Vox in viewership now?
>>27518894While he's right, the issue of course, is one of branding, marketing and Reach. Roberu is doing things correctly by branching out and plundering audience numbers from other 'viewer pools'(Tamaki box) instead of trying to get viewers of Hololive to watch him (Bae being the exception, but honestly I have suspect the brats are supportive of he attempts to chase Roberu).
>>27518724Nip idol is different from a gook idol. Hello musume established nip taste in ‘doing your best’ while kpop tends to be finished products. It’s an iffy market
>>27518975i hate what the males have done
>>27519062Hana should be hanged.
>>27519088vox tanked hard after the reimu thing. he only gets somewhat decent numbers for his ASMR shit now. even his 900k celebration barely managed to break 5k.
>>27519088No, Luca did ASMR (10k), Karaoke (26k), and endurance minecraft (12k rn). His normal numbers are in the 5-8k range.It's only 3 days into the month.
>>27519075Literally the only Niji that would get a buff from it would be HSKW. And she isnt big enough to have any effect at all on the tally
>>27519048Even if you slash by half as production cost then slash by half for the cover cut >both IMMENSELY exaggerated figuresIt’s still 60k USD, which would put in the top 10 of SC earnings. And that’s is the absolutely bottom of the bottom of the estimates. In reality they’re not paying have the revenue in cost of production, and Cover is not taking half as their cut meaning the girls are making more than that.
>>27519023At some point i'm starting to think that they only wish to bring hololive down since whatever they crave can easily be found in nijisanji and some of them are actually watching the alternative but still insist that hololive should also be the same thing.
>>27519053?? 50k stream are not easy to come by. Stop falseflagging retard.
>>27519129To defend the numbers for a sec (context ALWAYS matters, fuck the shitposters)>It was super late in CN>It was guerilla right after the filter that is Elden Ring for his audience
>>27519048Just better to assume Talents get a 15-20% cut from the total revenue. Company gets a lesser cut , they provide the budget and managing but the talents mostly pay for the production etc. If anything, for every $80 item sold, the profit earned would estimated to be $30-40 then it's divided to the company and talent.
>>27518680What is the history behind this UOOOHHH thing?
https://www.reddit.com/r/holocure/comments/vrl3gm/loose_thoughts_and_feedback/iewsr6s/Turn out Kayu is a Nousagi lmao! Fucking number rabbit.
>>27519088He just did buff streams after buffs. Look at mysta, even his floor is shit with undertale.
>>27519048>We know how much SC gets cut by corpo and youtubeWe do not, but it is at least 60%>We have no idea how much actual cut the members get from merch.We do, it's nothing if you pay for the production costs yourself.
>>27519179>falseflaggingLiterally wait an hour and see what she puts up for a stream rather than acting like a desperate cunt, retard.
>>27518873That doesn't prove that sponsorships have moved to sub count instead of CCV. And as you said cover has access to the correct CCV info.
>>27519176Some of them, yes. Others are delusional unityfags that really need to get it in their thick skulls that there are some things that just wouldn't work mixing them together in large amounts.
>>27519126B-b-but she was "based" about e-girls once!
>>27519129He was already falling off before that happenedi have no idea what's going on in the chinese corners of his fanbase but it's probably not good
>>27518894And where is the begging here?
>>27519048We do actually know. Essentially Holos borrow money from Cover to pay for the production cost, after selling their merch they pay Cover back the amount they borrowed and they get to keep the rest of the profits to themselves.
>>27519232Unironic Twittertards and Tumblerinas. Unity through force.
>>27519189These companies aren’t making products with 50% cost of production, that’s crazy for what’s mostly plastic trinkets. The only thing that might come near 50% cost would be high quality jackets and hoodies (like Mio’s), other then that cost should be much lower
>>27517695Tiffany Lords is my waifu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUK__xAMor0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUK__xAMor0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUK__xAMor0B R O S
>>27519129Some of Vox's numbers tanked because he's streaming more games recently and Mysta loves overlapping with him now.His recent RP ASMR (15k) is one of his highest in a while actually.
>>27519306Botan you can't do this to meyou can'tpls
>>27519219? There's no Pekora in that post
>>27519306What’s that, Sim City clone?
>>27519129Man, that whole incident was completely retarded. He eventually sided back to his chink paypigs. He sold his soul to the devils.
>>27519265To add onto this what I said is specifically in regard to custom requested merch like Birthday Merch.
>>27518984I just find it ironic that the best example he could show was them interacting with a girl and not one of their solo streams.
>>27519219Jesus, the engagement at HoloCure subreddit is the same as NijiEN even though NijiEN sub has more people. That's sad.
>>27519229The evidence for them moving towards sub count/views for sponsorships was from some leaked speakerdeck slides where they were promoting both those metrics and used Moona/Gura as examples. Now, as for CCV, it depends on if the fuckery in 2020 is reflected in the analytics tab or not. We know the 2021 fuckery IS, because Shibuya Hal and Selen both showed the discrepancy that shows up 48? Hours after the stream ends, but we've never has confirmation if the 2020 change gets updated after the stream ends and viewers get verified poat-stream. If they ARE, then Cover does probably use CCV for sponsorships that ask for it.
>>27519336He may as well ride that horse until the end now, it's setting him up for life.
>>27518987Watching Pekora regularly mog this dude now feel so satisfyingThat's what he get for harrassing her for years
>>27518388What about Laplus that I got wrong? I kinda like her and I hope I can improve my Japanese to enjoy all her Zatsudan. She seems like having good banters with her chat sort of like Pekora.>>27518565Yeah they seem to be blending well with each other. Also they are less introverted and autistic compared to previous gens. I hope to see more of them, especially La+ and lewd Chloe.
>>27519227Im being realistic. Getting 50K is not that easy.
>>27519326"I'm always able to put my personal feelings aside when designing, believe it or not! My favorite hologirls are all in JP, in fact (Pekora and Polka, which won't be coming ANYTIME SOON /crying) "He's getting more based by the day
>>27519326>-Regarding Mumei"The dev bias character /j"I hope Mumei herself never reads this... because I'm going to confess that I've never watched a Mumei stream in my life until this game came out and she played it LOL. I was only aware of some of her characteristics and memes. I've begun watching her more and more nowadays though. It's by pure chance that I came up with the skills that I did for Mumei and they turned out so busted, because at first I had ABSOLUTELY ZERO idea what to do for Mumei. I also want to say this for the record, my personal bias for which hologirl I'm a fan of has absolutely zero impact with how I design their characters. I'm always able to put my personal feelings aside when designing, believe it or not! My favorite hologirls are all in JP, in fact (Pekora and Polka, which won't be coming ANYTIME SOON /crying) I don't really watch holoEN much, actually... I really hope the EN girls don't read this :x
>>27519219>My favorite hologirls are all in JP, in fact (Pekora and Polka, which won't be coming ANYTIME SOON /crying) I don't really watch holoEN much, actually... I really hope the EN girls don't read this :x
The Indo brat is too powerful...
>>27519277Yeah most goods are cheap. Watame said her plushie was quite expensive, but they don't usually even try to reach that kind of quality.
>>27519219https://twitter.com/kaynimatic/status/1294982862710611968https://twitter.com/kaynimatic/status/1335191401148006406Always has been.she uses the second one as her ending btw
>>27519176>I'm starting to thinkIt's actually what's happening, it's so obvious
>>27519277Just assuming. If it could be mass produced, then it's much more cheaper. An example of really cheap products and high profit margin but with a scam price is niji's standard merchs. Their VPs is not that hard to make, and their BD merch is simple to the point you can print it out yourself. The art gets printed then puts into keychains, same with wall scrolls and badges. they're all priced at fucking $80 too for full set.
>>27518620Yikes, even having the thought of her joining makes me puke. I can tell you I can 100% guarantee that Delta would not join vshojo as I am part of her grooming discord and fanbox.
>>27519347Most homobeggars only watch stars when they’re collabing with girls and ignore the other streams
>Kobo almost died just now because she choked on bobaKek
>>27519306Mumei...
>>27519397Kek, after the success of HoloCure, Kay Yu has now forgotten his NijiEN oshi (Pomu) since she can't bring him clout anymore.
>>27519481boba what? tea?
>>27519191>Uohhhhhhhhh! !! !! Child erotic !!!!!! Child's belly and chest !!!!!! Erotic …
>>27519462kek this interaction was hilarious
>>26949190「We're starting to have a weekly cooking stream with her now..She doesn't have any bf, she only has her cats and damn monkey, so now she roleplays as a hag cooking on stream...」So I was right about Pekor...
How many Holomem are millionaires? How many Nijis are millionaires?
>>27519402>I don't really watch holoEN much, actually...>release holoEN firstWhat did he mean by this?
>>27519450I have an indirect relationship with sourcing suppliers for production of goods (mostly textile). It’s funny stuff, seeing famous brand names and (for instance) Zara sourcing from the same suppliers and the only change between them is>brands are more strict on QA and return a lot more for fabrication defectsbut even then their margins are absurd on the brand label alone. With that said, even for the hardest products to source like leather jackets, the min margin anyone put on top of it is 100%, meaning the cost of production will be half the revenue. Hololive is a lot more like the brand names than Zara in this example, the margins they have on merchandise (mostly plastic trinkets) must be glorious
>>27519605>she only has her cats and damn monkey, so now she roleplays as a hag cookingWhat kinda tradwife is this?
>>27519592fucking tranny self-owned himself LMAO
>>27519402BASED>BASEDBASED>BASED
>>27519605I will have to save her eggs. She has the makings of a great mother.
>>27519551Yogurt drink with boba.
>>27519548I mean he's basically part of the "Official non-employed but fully affiliated content creators" of Hololive now. Holocure itself is shaping up to be a multi-year project and that combined with his professional commitments basically means he has no time to dedicate himself to something Nijisanji related unless they officially commission him to animate something.
>>27519605ABE LET ME IN
>>27519643Maybe his collaborators are full of EN fan? Idk, Dudul is in charge of some animation?
>>27518214I actually watched some of her content as I can understand a bit of Indon (kinda like Malay sprinkled with a bit of Iban), but yeah I forgot to mention her. Not sure why Ollie stagnated. I kinda like her screaming around but I seldom watch ID anyway.
>>27519219Kek do I was right regarding this.
>>27519759Good, we don't need more begging from the Nijisanji fanbase, that's annoying.If they want to so badly, find a talented developer to make their own Niji fangame.
>>27519759I wonder if Cover is going to take advantage of the fan creators like him to make something official at some point, not that i think they would lose a lot by not doing so since people will create stuff anyways.
>>27519428Eh, it's a fair thing. Myth blew the fuck up, but if you were ALREADY someone who was both able to understand Japanese and already watching a lot of HoloJP, myth would be less of a priority. (Also based numberfag realizing that Myth would bring more recognition first).
>>27519619Calli despite fucking up her taxes and paying the double the amount she was actually supposed to pay was able to move twice in Japan and buy a house in the US. She probably would be millionaire if she didn't piss away some of her money for being dumb and not knowing about the US/Japan tax treaty.
>>27519653Yeah it's the nature of fan goods. It's a shame we don't have more information on the sales numbers anymore. I always found the merch game interesting.
>>27519653Of course. Same for Niji. There is a reason physical merch makes up such a huge chunk of their revenue.
>>27519825>Not sure why Ollie stagnatedOne too many yabs I feel. It was fine at first when she's still has tons of energy and creative juices but as the later naturally wanes she has unironically reclined. Another problem with her is that she's not really any good with the things she's passionate about, which often drives away viewers.
>>27519643EN is the simplest to make characters out of just based on their design and actually having canon powers and weapons. Also he's working with 4 people who actually are EN fans, one which being Dudul the most prominent Gura animator.
>>27519919Except Hololive merch is Gucci and Niji merch is Uniqlo
>>27519890>Calli despite fucking up her taxes and paying the double the amount she was actually supposed to payUsually government around the world will reimburse the extra payments after auditing the tax (can request an audit on yourself you are so inclined), I don't think Japanese government will just keep the money and not returning them to Calli.
>>27519919The profit margins for Nijimerch must be disgusting.It's literally the same shit every birthday, just with a different artwork, so I wouldn't be surprised if they have a deal with a factory to produce the whole set for a few dollars.
>>27519942Yeah, with the amount that she plays Apex you would expect her to at least get better at the basics.
>>27519847He animated Q. If you mean for the company proper, some others have already done it like REDALiCE.
>>27519847They already commissioned him once to make the Q music video they can just commission him again once his schedule is freed up or hire him as a temporary freelance game dev for one of their projects.
>>27519331More like Civ clone
>>27518096Lui interacts outside her gen somewhat consistently, kind of like her counterpart in 3rd Gen.(Laplus is fun, yes.)
They're feeling it https://twitter.com/einnimnech8u/status/1544010565357428742?t=vx6Eub2EaDFP0wnHxx09Xw&s=19
>>27519619Let me put it this way. Assuming every HoloEN has 5k memberships, and they get half of their revenue cut by cover on that, they would still be making 6 figures a year. From memberships alone, assuming they're ONLY 5K. There have been people who claimed that Gura had 20k members at some point. Every time merch drops it's another $100k at least. Half the games Holos play are stealth sponsored streams and sponsors pay good money for the numbers upper end Holos get. This not accounting for Ad Impressions or Watch Time pay outs on VoDs. If they say they're not millionaires they're either lying or they spend money like water.
>>27519942I found her to be too all over the place. I like some level of consistency in a streamer and not feeling like I'm going to get yanked around by yabs.
>>27519971kek
>>27519977She's speaking with a professional now about it because she literally just found out herself.
>>27519474Is it true that she also groom her audience?
>>27520001they also cost 10k yen a set, not including shipping costs while the production cost are maybe 1k yen if they are being gouged. It's literally 90% profit margin
>>27520056Is it possible to meme this blue women squad into existence?
>>27519942>one too many yabsDid she have any yab other than her bf fingering her live on stream?Also I thought she likes mukbang only? Any other streams that she sucks but still keep on doing?
>>27520001I mean forget same shit every birthday, those are very generic goods that I doubt they had to retool anything for. It's probably coming down the same pipeline as all the other cheapo idol / anime / souvenir etc. goods.
>>27520106this is why riku is one of the 50 richest men in japan and yagoo is a nobody.
>>27520105I tried to use that term for these three a while ago when talking to the normies on Twitter and *eddit, to no avail. I don't think it would stick for long.
>>27520001Problem with Anycolor is, they actually have more expenses than Cover does, somehow, and it makes their higher overall profits fall beneath Cover's margin. Anycolor's cost structure is worse than Covers, inexplicably
>>27520042It's a city builder, not a civ game.examplehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9tkbq8nsj0
>>27520143SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY
>>27518155Yes, at least on the JP side there is.
>>27520001Their merch probably costs $2-$3 at most and they sell it for $100
>>27519847Easier said than doneNot all fan want to take the burden of doing something official and also it take more than 1 person to actually produce something big
>>27520190Did you fucking miss that Riku statue at Anime Expo anon?
>>27520105It would be the most awkward collab group ever.
>>27519605AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGOD DAMN IT JAPAN, WHY YOU HAVE TO BE LIKE THISOPEN THE FUCK UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qb9q1fAWFMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk8L5ONGoNkIt would be nice if Marine and Peko double teamed salome tonight.
>>27520162Looks to be similar to this no? I mean has more gameplay elements to it than Townscaper but it seems to be in the same style.
>>27520056>Caption "Aqua">No Aqua because she is not blueLmao
>>27520230
>>27519942She also had the problem of attaching herself to too many e-celebs early on. A good chunk of her subs were e-celeb tourists that didn't stick around after she stopped interacting with said e-celebs. Case in point she was basically ditched by Connor after he started hanging out with Ironmouse which caused his viewers to follow with him.
>this luxiem-tier graphI NEVER want to see you people saying Kobo's numbers are legit ever again. What the fuck even is this
>>27520105No, language barrier too strong. Kobo is already ESL AF, throw in Pekora and the thing would be worse than Umisea.
>>27520211>they sell it for $100Naw, they aren't that shameless. It's around $40-50 because it's the same shit every time (tapestry, keychain, pins...).Even on the Holo side, the full set rarely exceeds $100.
>>27520105It's just 1 fanart bro
>>27520271meds nijibrony
>>27520100No, her audiences groom her.
>>27520271nijiseethe
>>27520271lol retard
>>27520160It's because they have to overproduce to make sure they meet demand + storage costs, whereas Cover goes for made-to-order but takes 6+ months to ship shit out.
>>27520275Honestly the blue women don't interact much but every single of their interaction is funny and get clipped to hell (mainly because all of them are big and attract attention anyway)
>>27520241Pekora surpassing salmonella would not be a small feat(44~k for her last cooking stream), but the thing if that were to happen would mean that Salmonella's Achilles's heel is just Pekora herself. Put up Pekora against her every night and we're good to win every single normal day.
>>27520275you underestimate pekora power lmao, if she can do it with moona then she can do it with anyone, especially kobo. idk about gura tho, en became a pussy when interacting with their jp senpais idk why
>>27519605Her voice would filter anyone irl so I'm not surprised. Imagine having to listen to her voice every morning as she wakes you up and tries to whisper cutely in your ear. Your ears would probably bleed.
>>27520249It looks to be the same type of mechanics as the board game carcassonne, but without no multiplayer and competition it just turns into a city/landscape builder.
>>27520271ok troon
>>27520271Your not even a thread watcher ya goddamn troglodyte.
>>27520113Her biggest passion is Apex and Chess, but she's really bad at those. Even as it improves a bit it only gets to the point where it's neither good enough to be worth watching nor bad enough to have fun laughing.She had plenty of yabs, tho I think the biggest one is when she accidentally shows her IRL face in a reflection during an unboxing handcam stream. Unlike Subaru (whose only 'backlash' is on her mama for lacking creativity in designing her), her IRL face isn't attractive at all. I wouldn't be surprised if such illusion breaking hurts her a bit too. That's just a theory though, in the end she's always had her share of haters for her yabs and unfortunately she wasn't able to give out any more good stuff to balance the yabs.
>>27520271I like that the thumbnail makes it look like she was looking at the graph and baffled by it.
>>27520271So does being a nijifag make you retarded or do only retards become nijifags?
>>27520105Maybe for a group song or something. A collab stream will be very awkward and unless they have strong scriptwriter it would be painful to watch.
>>27520278They are> Full set 10,000 yenSame price for both EN and JPhttps://nijisanji.booth.pm/items/3949188https://nijisanji.booth.pm/items/3925072
>>27520271The difference with Luxiem is that her weird recline (caused by internet connection) doesn't make her incline a single time, whereas the cock suckers have a huge incline with their mountain graphs. Kobo's situation is the total opposite of Luxiem's, though you'll never acknowledge that much Nijichink...
>>27520350>en became a pussy when interacting with their jp senpaisit's the other way around anon, holoen are fucking lazy to stream so expecting them to reach out to jps would be delusional.jp holomems are the ones who should reach out to them if they want to collab and get high numbers.
>>27519548>NijiEN oshi (Pomu)Where the fuck does this even come from?He has done some fan art when she has played games that he has worked on. He has literally never given the slightest indication that she is his oshi, or if he has even ever seen a Pomu stream that he hadnt worked on.And also "he has forgotten about her". He made Pomu fanart for when she played Shantae like two weeks ago..
>>27520160This is your reminder that Cover somehow made more profit from their operations due to less expenses than Anycolor, despite the fact that Cover has 50 game devs on their payroll now making HoloEarth. Multimillion dollar game development isn't enough to put Cover in the red, and for that matter it's not enough to even set their profits lower than Anycolors.
>>27520278>Naw, they aren't that shameless. It's around $40-50 because it's the same shit every time (tapestry, keychain, pins...).lol10k yen, it's now $74 because the yen devaluated, but back then it was $100
look at how fucking easy it is to get (you)s from the underage kobokeks, i should get in on this too
So when do people stop treating kobo getting big numbers as an anomaly and regard it as normal. You can't just keep going woaah look at these nunbers how atypical for an ID if they remain consistent,its having your cake and eating it too
>>27520408that's like 70 dollars now (before shipping though)I don't get why they don't just follow what Hololive does, they don't even have that many more livers that they can't put more thought into everyones merch
>>27520483It's unbelievable he got 7 (you)s for writing the most obvious retarded bait ever. Have some self control guys.
>>27519825>Not sure why Ollie stagnated.Her incline was entirely based on tourists>PI reading stream>chess tournament with trash taste >math streams >collabs with literally whos from other companies She never really built her own audience and even alienated part of it with that “if you don’t know English that’s why you can’t get a girlfriend, incel” rant>which she was in the right btwso when the branch pivoted away from HoloEN-lite / Minecraft NPC into a proper indo branch she got left behind
>>27520060Every single HoloEN has over 10k members easily But not all memberships are in USD or yen. Lots in ARS and flip currency and whatever other SEA/latam currencies thag exist
>>27520477Myth probably earned a lot too since it was back in the time where they're hot shit and the value of yen isn't shit. They also have the advantage of viewers being NA and using dollars.
>>27520350Pekora was only able to do it thanks to MC chat and Moona somehow magically understand everything she typedYou are overestimate Pekora ability to surpass language barrier. Remember that disastrous Pekomoon collab? Or how their Warden stream was gonna be VC but they quit it cause they can't communicate through speaking
>>27520339If Marine ends as Pekora starts it'll probably be a bit of a funnel. I think the rabbit has a real shot at it.
>>27520060At least we know where the money for two members goes to:Calli-Movee twice in Japan-New house in US-Wasted on unnecessary taxes because she's dumbAme-3D studio/Office-Animations-3D models-3D tracking equipment (includes mocap, cameras, etc)-Other behind the scenes tech
>>27520374>>27520113>>27519942you guys are overselling the impact of the yabs. Her issue is that people came to watch her be the super hyperactive crazy vtuber, but what they actually got was a vtuber that goes into mental breaks every few months and is genuinely exhausting to keep up with. Most people do not sign up to be a vtuber's support network and once you start worrying more about if the streamer you follow is going to hang herself most people start tuning out
>>27520502>I don't get why they don't just follow what Hololive does, they don't even have that many more livers that they can't put more thought into everyones merchThey literally have 100+ more livers lol, same reason why not every Niji can do a 3D live for anniversary and birthday.
>600k countdown>days later 650k countdown>SOMEHOW THIS IS STILL A BUFFI look down on luxiems audience so hard. Literal event monkeys. What part of a stream having celebration it it and nothing else special makes it more watchable?
>>27520574>Event monkeyThat is all of Niji audience
>>27520572if you only count the JP branch its not bad
>>27520555They quit the VC because they wanted to focus on the fights, retard. They came back later on on VC several times to talk.
>>27520271If you actually watched her stream (you don't) you'll know that her stream died three times.
>>27520483Why are they all hanging out here anywayDid we somehow become the holoid general
>>27520374I saw her IRL face, she is just a typical Indon, not too ugly or anything, probably the Indons think she should look above average or something lol.
>>27520574It it is actually his next stream. So 600k endurance milestone stream and literal back to back he does a 650k countdown.AND he will get thousands and thousands in donos both times. Limitless milking of chinese gachis. I just dont understand how their pockets can still be filled
>>27520574Putting an emphasis on subs through countdowns/endurance usually helps with sub growth, which is why Luxiem is thriving in that department.Meanwhile, no one in Council ever mentions subs and their growth has been dead in the water for months now, despite getting good daily numbers and even inclining.I wouldn't be surprised if Shu(590k), the lowest subbed Luxiem member, passes Kronii(753k) by Dec 2022.
>>27520636why you reply to a retard who doesnt watch the stream lmao
>>27520574they really are scummy and talentless and their existence pretty much disproves any sort of relation between numbers and quality, the girls are so much better god I hate men so much keep them the fuck away from hololive
>>27520456Speaking of HoloEarth, did they ever give an approximate release date? Definitely feels like it's nowhere close to done, but given how fast this industry moves I feel like by the time the game actually finishes I don't know if there will be any hype for it anymore.
>>27520502Are you kidding? Nijisanji has more than twice as many livers even if you include Stars, Cover barely has enough management for everyone as is with two 3D studios already fully booked to the point they sometimes need to use 3rd parties, and you think Nijisanji has enough staff and set up to handle their own situation?A significant amount of Luxium's profitability is in digital merch. The same is probably true for hololive, and in fact may be even more true due to the fact that digital merch doesn't need to be made to order or shipped.
>>27520658The reflection that showed her face was distorted to the point that she looked like Twomad while he was wearing a Rice Farmer hat.
>>27520640They are extra obnoxious numberfags because somehow them having a strong chuba is a source of national pride. Think if Gura was one of the only meaningful things the USA ever made
>>27520698No release date it's basically still in an early Alpha state but it's at least "playable" and they have assets ready.
>>27520708they could slap some art on a cup or something
>>27520708Nijisanji ignore 75% of their streamers, so the admin overhead isn't as bad as it sounds.
>>27520708>The same is probably true for hololive, and in fact may be even more true due to the fact that digital merch doesn't need to be made to order or shipped.Digital merch as in voice packs? Because IIRC, Nijis release voice packs much much more frequently than Holos. They have seasonal voice packs every month for JP and EN branches, whereas I think HoloEN only does voicepacks for birthdays and HoloJP only does it for big events like Vday.
>>27520574I mean to be honest, the EN girls could care about their subs more even if it is a little shameless.
>>27520517Can't you perpetually rely on tourist? Just do stupid/novel streams regularly I am sure there are people that are interested in them.
>>27520798Who the fuck cares about the EN girls. I at no point made this about them, their behavior is scummy by all chuba region standards
>>27520798>Kronies spamming at Kronii that she hit 700k subs>"oh we got to 700k? That's pretty cool. Thanks guys."As a numberfag, it's frustrating to be a fan of Kronii sometimes
>>27520821A lot of her tourists were passing by watchers of e-celebs she used to interact with. The moment she stopped talking to them was the moment they stopped watching.
>>27518216Is Getting Over it a super buff game?
>>27520839You don't see the irony of complaining about shameless numberfagging in the numberfagging thread?We love Holos when they do the same thing.
>>27520858Kronii is not trying, Kronies shouldn't too
LMAO SHE RAGE QUIT
>>27520698There was an interview posted here->https://www.moguravr.com/holoearth-interview/ -that said they plan on Early Access for it when it's two years into development, with the game only being in development for 1 year already. So next year, assuming the timeline is right.
>>27520708>and you think Nijisanji has enough staff and set up to handle their own situation?Scaling up a company would be possible if they wanted to but why would they?Anycolor is still at the “crossroads” between their initial positioning in the market, a >talent incubator and where they really want to be, which is>an entertainment company This caused them to retain a whole lot of their streamers which are part timers, variety streamers that have no intention on getting onboard the new company. Hololive “lucked out” in this matter in the sense that, when they pulled that first HoloFes with that small number of cast (which was their full cast too) they signaled to the whole cast present and future that, at very least once a year, they would have to perform a “song and dance” routine in front of a live audience. Nijisanji seems to be pivoting in the same direction but instead of just some 30 girls, 90% of which already dreaming of doing just that, they have some 100+ boys and girls many of them having made their whole identity of “not being one of them song and dance streamers”. For Nijisanji, instead of scaling up, it would be much preferable to go back to a two tier system like they had with their “Nijisanji Network”:>their own cast, with all the obligations that come with that, are Nijisanji proper>the part timers, variety and experimental chuubasw become Nijisanji “affiliate” on the Network
>>27520897Super buff if you've never played it before, but the novelty runs out quickly.That post you're quoting is retarded tho.20k+ with GTI is not easy, especially for an ID. Frankly, it was impossible before Kobo.
>>27520821>Can't you perpetually rely on tourist?A daily streamer like Ollie can’t. Some infrequent streamers like Toya and present day Marine can, both actually lose numbers if they stream more frequently.
>>27520945Checking the VOD numbers real quick, anyone know how this compares to other VODs?
>>27520966>GTIgetting tover it?
>>27518042Risu- Mostly English every time I see herIofi- IndoMoona- Mostly EnglishReine- 99% EnglishOllie- Translates herself but still 70% EnglishAnya- English or JPZeta- English/ID mix but leans to ENKael- Mostly EnglishKobo-IDI'll agree that they've moved back towards cultivating the ID market with things like the separate MC server but most of the individual talents are EN-friendly. They do their collabs in ID but they've always done that.
>>27520945kek, good for numbers for her revenge stream
>>27520956Didn't Nijisanji downsize a bit in the first place because their resources and manpower was overextended? To my knowledge it's part of the reason why for the KR and ID branch merger.
>>27520966I think that number is super amazing too, it surprised me
>>27521001This is going to be a 400-500k VOD in the future anyways.Look at her plants vs zombies VODs for comparison and those peaked at 18k.
>>27521009>Anya- English or JPHuh? This girl is ID branch?
>>27521001Gura got 99k views right after her 2 hour zatsu with 18k avg, peak at 20k.
>>27521001Please stop looking at pre processing VOD numbers, they’re meaningless. Sometimes they’re on 4 digits even for streams with 10k+ peaks, YouTube doesn’t even start tallying them for a couple of minutes.
>>27521041Yeah people just joke about her being JP because her Japanese is very good.
>>27521001check out >>27512976>>27511551>>27502910>>27455175
>>27521022Anon, they let the whole KR management go and a very mature structure for ID likewise, but kept all the streamers (but one). They did the opposite of “downsizing because they couldn’t manage”, they actually increase the workload for their JP operation
>>27520858she seems to try to actively make her streams more boring and to put a damper on anything that could be potentially exciting or funny
>>27517915>Sekai Saionji from School Days becomes a VTuber
>>27518042I hope for HoloMY one day...
>>27518695Do you imply that ES are subhumans or something.
Marine's stream is holocure, chance she gets 50k before pekora starts?
Holo gold? Of course she'll spam buff game https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1544252636610043904?t=d-qqrsTKcbOgjXgTCet3RA&s=19
>>27519825Ollie has no fucking clue about how to maintain her audiences, she just do what she wants. It's no coincidence that top vtubers like Pekora are numberfags, even Kobo, she can code but she won't do that because a coding stream is a huge debuff.
>>27520946>--By the way, how big is the team now?>Ooka: About 50 people. There are also people who are supported by external development companies, so in reality more people are involved. Originally, a company that was not a game development company suddenly started saying "I'm going to make a sandbox game (*)!", And at first it started from the place where people around me asked "what are you talking about?" I think it is amazing for us to be able to develop on this scale for a while.>*Sandbox game: A type of game that allows players to move freely without setting clear goals or stories. One of the famous titles is "Minecraft"./#/ I don't know shit about game development, how big of a team is 50 people?
>>27521083I doubt very much that ID or KR gets much support at all. There won't be any more recruitment or events for either group. Basically they just stream games off a pre-approved list, they have very little need for a manager.
>>27521127I'm implying ES fans lives and breaths drama, either real, fabricated or instigated.
>First unarchived karaoke>ALSO 900k countdown>25k peak, 21k most of the stream>Just playing some kusoge>21k for hours???????????????????
>>27521132Get fucked Salami.
>>27521041Yes. Despite all the memes that we make that she is Japanese, Anya is part of HoloID and can speak Indo.
>>27521184salami did nothing wrong
>>27521132She hasn't beat the game so I can see it
Ahh man, Suisei, Matsuri and Nene just came to Chloe's place while she was doing superchat reading. If they turned into off-collab it would bring number.
>>27521155I think one of NijiID recently got a new costume. I don't know if it's from their own pocket or given by the management
>>27521138Genshin require hundreds of people to develop and run
>>27521177Gee, it's like different audiences have different tastes. Zoomer cancer of tiktok and Facebook don't care as much about karaoke, whoda thought.
>>27521177Kobo is going to increase her floor every month. It's not 10-11k like she used to. I'd assume she'd rest at 15k with games and 7k at SC readings/zatsus.
>>27521134>coding streamIs that even a thing? Who the fuck watch people code. And you need 100% of your brain during coding there is no way any streamer can interact with their audience when they actually codes.But yeah you have to be a numberfag to be successful.
>>27521132Chances of winning gold is there but this means no 40K+ stream for peko.
Where is that anon who said that Marine wouldn't play HoloCure again?Get fucked!
>>27521177Different markets different buffs. Indos came to jeer and holler at her getting angry
>>27521177Kobo will be the first vtuber ever to get less viewers on her first new outfit reveal than some like shitty Facebook game she plays the day before
>>27521083I feel like merging the branches counts as downsizing for the sheer fact that they don't have to worry about further foreign market ventures and the organizational structure of entire branches.
>>27521206Oh, it's cool the girls are getting to know each other better like that. Hopefully leads to more collabs and chances for them to gel.
>>27521164> lives and breaths drama, either real, fabricated or instigated.You mean just like /vt/?
>>27521177Her viewers don't care much about karaoke or special events
Marine Gold today
>>27521224She will beat gura's median then.
>>27521226>But yeah you have to be a numberfag to be successful.Numberrot. Ollie IS successful. Anything above 1k is big.
>>27521177Is Kobo the chuuba that has the least buffed "ceiling" for her median?
>>27521224She got 7k 3 days ago idiot. Her floor isn't even 10k. Learn what words mean.
>>27520143Cover is a private company so the wealth from stocks can't be measured properly. Also fuck those who included stocks as wealth, most CEOs would sell their stocks only when their company is going under and there's no hope anymore.
>>27521236I think Kobo's outfit reveal will get a different kind of tourists. Especially if there's not much overlap with other Holomember
Why is holocure so fun? I abandon my mobage for days just to play it.
>>27521227She has an hour, after that any nousagi watching will swap over at least draining a couple of k.
>>27521262I don't think its 100% gold. Its very much possible but its not guaranteed.
>>27519090Roberu is actually the only star who has any sort of audience overlap with hololive jp members though. You can look up the charts.
>>27521134>coding stream is a huge debuff.Would probably be a huge SC buffstream tho..
>>27521262Unless it's not. You never know.
>>27521134Her game sense is poor, can't play chess, and her logical thinking skills shit. I refuse to believe she knows how to code.
>>2752113850 people is an okay amount but for something like HoloEarth which is basically a MMO Sandbox that's actually relatively small though having external studios help basically alleviates that.
>>27521280t. nijifan
>>27521257Yes, but we don't represent the majority of the hololive community. That would be the mindset of the majority of any ES community.
>>27521331That anon is talking about Kobo coding not Ollie. Damn Ollie's number is sad for someone who has 1M subs. But oh well at least it is better than Kizuna Ai.
>>27521285I think Kobo is the 1st Vtuber who got mixed audience between normalfag ID audience, and the Holobox audience. So her number will be very unusual for a few month, especially when she got trending in ID and getting more recommended by youtube algorithm to Indonesian normalfag audience.
Im glad Iroha is playing MC again.
>>27521369Just easy numbers during Rushia-O'clock with no overlap.Iroha can get 10k with Minecraft even with overlap anyways.
Whenever Salome stream something, just ask a top tier Hololive member like Peko or Marine to stream HoloCure with a challenge like a 30-minute or 1-hour no-death run.
With how popular HoloCure is and how attention Kay Yu is getting as the creator, so you think any of them will play River city girls? Could be a good collab game
>>27520271Whatever you say, every evidences proves that Kobo is not botting. Your opinion won't change the fact that Kobo has a strong presence.https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSR11hFeQ/?k=1
>>27521369Iroha is supposed to be the Minecraft autist...
Playing HoloCure again huh, this honestly feel like something Pekora do but this time it's Marine who do itMeanwhile Pekora stopped playing it and switch to variety immediately which is unlike her
Marine Holocure after sex with Shion without Lamy45k possible?
>>27521138No Man's Sky was developed by 4 people. The studio expanded later, but even now it's only 26 people. Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion had a Dev Team of 'roughly 70 people'. Make of this as you will
>>27521410She needs 49.9k to get the gold.
>>27520555Don't embarrass yourself, it's apparent that you've never watched PekoMoon streams
>>27521407Marine didn't even clear stage mode yet.
>>27518484Tbf they used to be. But everything change since 2020
I find it funny how absolutely numberrotting HoloCure is. This game manages to buff almost every Holo member who plays it, and the game is only on the demo phase which is crazy.
>>27521443The best thing is that it's the buff that only Hololive and other companies can use, but not Nijisanji.
>>27521009>>27521041If you ever show this to anya she gonna get angry at you like the last time some chat said the same thingPlease for godsake watch anya, she DO speak ID but just lesser than both but she did
>>27521389Why would they do that? Salome's growth is already plateau. I don't think the audiences overlap either.
>>27521443Mumei pulled 20k+ 3 times with it in a week, when she hasn't gotten above 18k on a gaming stream since her debut week. I feel like the big numbers have drawn in a lot of newfags and dragged down the quality of /#/ by a lot.
>>27521443It's a "will this Holo recognize this reference?" buff when they play it for the 1st time.
>>27521216It's possible there are still things commissioned before the merger in the works. Getting outfits seems to be a chore for side branches going off of EN's experience.
Mayuzumi doing a zatsu, he’ll spend the whole month buffed, like Coco graduation arc, right?Who can be carried up with him like Kanata in 2021?
Gura holocure stream vs Kiara birthday 3D for tomorrow's gold?
>>27521109This!I always want to ask for a fucking long timeWhy. Tf. MY chuubas not popular or well known?Even for a fucking Maha5 got some popularity
>>27521296It's basically like one of those phone games that's meant to be addicting and a good waste of time while your doing nothing but crank up the quality to high grade indie game level, make it truly free, and making it super easy to pick up and play (takes like 10 seconds to start the game up and load Stage mode). If it becomes mobile compatible than I wouldn't be surprised if I end up seeing it played everywhere as something to mess with while someone is waiting.
>>27521504Those are mostly open slot no? You don't get that on JP primetime.
>>27521519Salome has a proper stream tomorrow so I doubt any EN can beat her number unless Kiara pulls an AZKi out of nowhere
Is dumb juice blocking the entire EN pipeline by not giving Irys an outfitNo Irys outfit so no En2 outfit so no en3
>>27521514Can Mayu's graduation break Coco's number? I think it's possible since he is even more influential than Coco.
>>27521531Isn’t MyHoloTV “popular” (in relation to other minor companies) to the point they got the highest accolade of any vtuber company>got 4chan antis and schizos harassing them ?
>>27521395Gura and Mori already did
>>27521519Gura's holocure isn't on the same day as Kiara's 3d, it's today (next Gura timeslot)
>>27521551Easy, just throw Pekora and Marine in a stream together to carpet bomb Salome
>>27521476>The best thing is not the big numbers, but for tribal reasonsTake your meds and stop letting Nijis live rent free in your mind
>>27521560Stop pretending to be a retard to go for the “most retarded post of the day” gold, please.
>>27521514No one, this is Nijisanji.
>>27521598Salome is a Hololive member though, so I don't see why they have to overlap her.
>>27521531I don't know what's going on with MY's weebs community but the biggest SEA"s anime convention (AFA) only went there once and never again. Meanwhile they held it at ID for 5-6 years in a row.
>>27521534Oh yeah speaking of phone game, no wonder people got scammed by the fake HoloCure APK. It's an addicting game that people want to play on the road or something to waste your time. Kay or someone should just port it to mobile or something.
>>27521622>tribalthis word is literally a niji detector
>>27521622It must kill you inside that Niji can't play it huh?
>>27521553No? But he is blocking IRyS's stuff probably. That or it's IRyS fault for insisting on a complete redesign.
Gura's Chatting Stream, 10 hours Edition>https://vrabi.net/video/k_skfzMMyso>1 hour, 54 minutes~>~206k Views, ~10 hours>20406 Peak CCV, 19713 Average CCVAssuming a Total Churn Time of 5 minutes>114 minutes / 5 minutes = 22.8 turnovers>22.8 * 19713 = ~449456 viewsAssuming a Total Churn Time of 30 Minutes>114 minutes / 30 minutes = 3.8 turnovers>3.8 * 19713 = 74909 viewsDividing Total Views by CCV Average>206k / 19713 = ~10.5 turnovers>114 minutes / 10.5 = ~10.9 minutesCalculations of 'Estimated Real CCV' at 10 minutes, 20 minutes, and 45 minutes>114 minutes / 10 minutes Retention Rate = 11.4 turnovers>206k views / 11.4 = ~18070 Average CCV>114 minutes / 20 minutes Retention Rate = 5.7 turnovers>206k views / 5.7 = ~38148 Average CCV>114 minutes / 45 minutes Retention Rate = ~2.5 turnovers>206k views / 2.5 = 82400 Average CCV
>>27519592kek
>>27521476Lmao. I noticed a lot of 2views actually triple quadruple their usual vod viewership. It's like the repeat of that Korone kusoge all over again.
>>27521646SEA biggest weebs are from ID. Reminder that Indonesian 1st president is a giga weeb.
>>27521531Don't cry Upin, no one outside of ID knows who is Mythia Batford, and she is a regular 2k vtuber and sometimes can break 5k ccv ceiling. There are a lot of vtubers like that, even in ID who were supposed to be the 3rd market for vtubers.
>>27521682I mean if not because of seniority deference to Irys, why has council not gotten their normal outfits? It's been a year
>>27521476Nijisanji could probably use it, but the few ones i can imagine doing it are the ones with friends in hololive, but even then i don't think a single NijiJP member has ever acknowledged holoEN to this day.
>>27521666Doesn't bother me at all because I don't care about Nijis, unlike how you guys are seemingly obsessed with them.There's something fucked up if you don't think the best thing about Holocure is the big numbers.
>>27521648Closest thing is that people figured out you can play it on the Steam Deck. Other than that an official APK version would be the tits.
>>27521742It's been 10 months. There is no such thing as seniority deference on the EN side. Council already got NY outfits and IRyS did not.
>>27521690Anon, 中央值 in Kanji is median, not average, means Gura spent 50% of the time streaming above 19.7k.
>>27521698It's much better than Korone game since it's EOP friendly as hell. But I do feel bad for Nijisanji though since they don't have anything at all.
>>27521583NTA but basically yeah. Hololive should open a branch in Malaysia.
>>27521742Anon you know whyOmegay was fucking fired or demoted, leaving EN branch management in complete disarray. Omegay was also the manager of Project HOPE, meaning IRyS was also screwed over. Basically, everything is Omagay's fault
>>27520230I don't think there was one.
More clip numbers.Salome(6->1) shoots to the top with clippable streams in the form of rhythm heaven. Miko(7->2), Gura(13->3), Kiara(15->5) also get high marks with their respective streams. Otherwise, Kobo(8->8) keeps pace with yesterday with a consistent influx of new clips, while the rest of the top 10 are coasting.Okayu(50->12), Towa(41->13), Botan(38->14) do well today with Holocure, Talk, Holocure buffs respectively. Kronii(31->18) also gets high despite not streaming with a recent clip (XUVqoxPfO1A) with a 100k boost.Otherwise, good performances by Kuzuha(26->21), Vox(37->32), Flare(43->36), Matsuri(54->41), Watame(48->42), Baelz(59->45), Ibrahim(82->48), Akina(92->50), Furen(65->53), Selen(86->56).Split today is 19.4M(+500k) HL to 10.9M(+400k) NJ.
>>27521828Graph.
>>27521698It's been making waves outside the Vtuber sphere also as a VS alternative and is introducing more people to Hololive funny enough.
I kinda want to see Marine dive bombing Salome again.
>>27519191
>>27521788>crying_niji_wojak_wearing_holo_mask.jpeg
>>27521534Cover should just buy the game outright from Kay and his team, even pay them as developers. Then they can add a payment scheme but instead of gacha schemes, they should use ‘donate as much as you think its worth’. And if they do donate, the game shows it as a superchat while Polka’s supachatto arigatou plays.
>>27521096
>>27521828Wow, the first time that I've seen Nijisanji with 10M clip views. They're usually lower than that.
any decent websites that track subs accurately in real time?
>>27521486There's rrat that Pekora is slowly siphoning Salome viewer. We need more number and time to see if that's true
>>27521884I bet you're the type of tribalfag that got pissed Miko slipped to Salome despite her getting 100k+ on her 3D costume reveal anyways.Must be a sad existence.
>>27521774>single NijiJP member has ever acknowledged holoEN to this dayWhy would they? Have a single HoloEN member acknowledged any NijiJP ever?
>>27521811You know what maybe you're on to something, if they opened a 'MY' branch but had the talents in Singapore and can speak mandarain, they actually could break through to the CN market again.
>>27521074Those numbers are meaningless as we know youtube can still be processing views for days.
Everyone hyping up Marine is going to have egg on face when she gets only around 40k, or maybe not even that
>>27521937no because youtube stopped letting the public see sub numbers after three sig figs after the T-series vs pewdiepie thing where you had thousands of channels that were just live streaming the subcount between the two
>>27521964>using tribal againJust admit you got caught and move on, nijizhangger
>>27521443It's even spread outside the Holo circle (like almost every Holo content/meme does) and brought in several newfags from other places -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNr5F_K3ECAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2ZyRKNDMmw
>Marine playing HoloCure tonightOdds of Holo gold improving. Wouldn't bet my balls on Marine taking it, but it could lead to a better funnel for Pekora. It is contingent however on them not overlapping each other.
>>27521976I don't hype up anythingI just let the number speak for itself
>>27521943>There's rrat that Pekora is slowly siphoning Salome viewer. We need more number and time to see if that's trueHow to even siphon viewers from other vtubers?
>>27521976Thanks for the grudgepost bait.
>>27521560No, but he might beat Lulu's number.
>>27521970I don't think so either, but i highlighted it because most friends of hololive are JP-JP and i don't think they would be interested in any shape way or form with the current characters.
>>27522006Impossible, first time buff is gone, also the previous one had Lamy boosting the numbers
>>27522006They share 1 manager, they would never overlap each other
>>27521887Is there even a game that does that? That sounds like having a Patreon link directly in the game which I don't think I've seen before.
>>27521999>thinking only nijiniggers use tribalI was here before Coco's graduation, newfag. Tribalfag was always used to describe idiots like you who don't actually care about the talents, but only that the other side loses.
>>27522066Sure thing, nijinig
>>27521226https://youtu.be/sTC_OiBuZ3M
>>27522040Funny enough she didn't even beat Stage mode last time so she has a redemption run/first time win buff going for her.
>>27522080Try not to pop an artery tonight if Marine peaks at 48k and doesn't beat Salome, tribalfag.
>>27522040>Didn't read my whole post before replying>Doesn't know that numbers dropped when Lamy enteredWhen I said I'm not prepared to bet my balls on Marine gold, I meant that I didn't really think that would happen. Her funneling a 40k+ HoloCure stream to Pekora's cooking cooking stream however is a different story. That's the real contender I think.
>>27521970Cross language cross company just doesnt exist.Like HoloJP and NijiJP obviously collab sometimes And HoloEN (Kiara, Fauna) and NijiEN (Lazulight, Enna, Alban) has mentioned each otherBut NijiJP-HoloEN, HoloJP-, NijiEN, lol no way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYZwBx8s8rwNijisanji new liver debut!!
>>27522138I love it how Nijifans keep downplaying the success of HoloCure until this day
>>27521828salome mogging holowhores. you love to see it.
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1544259925584384000Kek
>>27522098Subbed. Thanks.
>>27522130You sure showed me that the "people" that use the word "tribal" when someone is making fun of niji numbers are not just nijiniggers
>>27522214So niji couldnt even get her old channel back huh
>>27522214Black company? Black company.
>>27522214graduation incoming
>>27522138>Doesn't know that numbers dropped when Lamy enteredShe peaked with Lamy, dumbass
>>27522181huh, he's original account is still banned? This is a new YT account.
>>27522239>her
More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>27521828Kiara(13->1) at the top with Holocure buff, with Gura(43->2) in 2nd with post-offcollab talking. Miko(12->3) gets 3rd with MC shenanigans.Salome(35->4) is from Rhythm heaven, though she gets first overall from a solid old-clip viewerbase. Okayu(62->5) with more Holocure buff. Towa(41->7) with talking and Botan(100->9) with Holocure.I'd go over more but eh.Split today is 7.4M(-200k) HL to 2.4M(-600k) NJ.
>>27522181Kek
>>27522181Oh sweet a new liver maybe now I can drink more alcohol.
>>27522214>they gave up on the old channelWelp, it's not exactly unexpected but I honestly thought Anykara could've done something better. Is this allowed by YT ToS in any case?
>>27522214Mashiro should just quit then and there, years of hardwork gone like that.
>>27522214>Channel or account terminations>If your channel or account is terminated, you may be unable to use, own, or create any other YouTube channels/accounts. When a channel is terminated, the channel owner gets an email explaining the reason for the termination.Hmmm...
>>27522213Why are Hololive members whores when Nijisanji has Gundou and Utako?
>>27522214Isn't this skirting the rules if youtube deemed the channel ban to be justified?
>>27521887Again he doesn't want ithttps://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/vmcks4/games_radar_free_vampire_survivors_fan_game/ie3dk8t/> I know a lot of people offered to donate, but yeah I've explained before I really don't feel morally right, or legally okay to accept any money for this project, even if it's "indirectly". and possibly more important, I simply want to keep it as a passion project, and not feel like a job to make. I already have 2 other daily jobs and I don't want to make this a 3rd one, I hope you all understand!!! And once again, thank you for playing.
>>27522181wait all his content is gone ? or is it a new channel
>>27522214is ban evasion even allowed on a MCN? hopefully this doesn't drag the rest of the company down too.
>>27522265Graph.
>>275222142 years, down the drain.Who knows, this might even be a boost.
>>27522284>>27522276>>27522299Jungang assemble!
>>27522181Who is this girl, she's cute
>>27522284Can we report this to YT?
>>27522055It was tried before but I guess it didnt work out for games because gamers have no money to sustain development. But holos have an existing supachat culture where this type might actually pay for itself. It wont be as profitable as gacha but its certainly more humane.
>>27522313Finana hates her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vyyfd9pL-8It's not Sims?
>>27522019Most of Salome viewer are tourist at one point. Pekora simply pull the tourist to her side
>>27522169Fubuki shilled a Finana stream on twitter. Which is still maybe the weirdest Holo-Niji interaction ever lol. And Polka-Pomu has talked before. Pomu has also talked about Korone and Marine before.And also, with how big of a phenomenon Gura's ascent was, there is no way there wasnt a single NijiJP that didnt talk about her near her debut. There just inst people in this thread that has watched every single membership stream to know if it happened or not
>>27522214>>27522276>Is this allowed by YT ToS in any case?No
>>27522213>Conveniently ignore all the time Salome get mogged in that same chart
>>27522297
>>27522382Uh oh, don't show this to JunsGang
>>27522260Her audience hadn't plateaued yet when Lamy entered, but when Lamy entered her numbers dipped a bit before resuming its growth. She reached a larger peak afterwards in spite of Lamy, not because of her.
>>27522375>Fubuki shilled a Finana stream on twitter. Which is still maybe the weirdest Holo-Niji interaction ever lol.I still remember that day. It was so weird because IIRC there were ongoing holoEN streams too and FBK just retweets a Finana minecraft stream or something.Fox has always been a unityfag, but usually that stops at retweeting vomit nurse's return stream lmao.
>>27522375the nijiEN discord leak taught us that any positive interactions towards holoEN from nijiEN are completely fake.
>>27522417Retarded gokisei schizo
will mashiro call out niji management for this?
>>27522382Oh no what will those Jun's Gang do now that they know about this
motherfucker im waiting for that brat to be 2k streamer so i can shitpost, now she got 21k?
>>27522169https://youtu.be/MWg_g_DU9wk
>>27522316see >>27522382
>>27520658>she is just a typical IndonNigga where the fuck do you live for that to be typical? That's like grade-A uggo in my part of the country
>>27522481Yes, that's the same Gunjou making the rounds in drama threads these days.
>>27522481why did ollie's selen collab get rejected, but this was allowed to go ahead?
>>27522447I don't hate Lamy by any means. I'm just telling you what happened on the night.
>>27522506She's perfect for Ollie then
>>27522458Hard to do when he fucked up so badly himself.Probably happy they didn't just graduate him.
>>27522517Selen isnt a whore
>>27522463which one?
>>27521134I thought Ollie was a numberfag since she was one of the one that notice the ccvid
>>27522481Isn't she the one who recently threw shade at hololive?
>>27522316>weKill yourself
>>27522214Wait isnt this illegal? I would have hoped niji management would have restored his channel instead of making a new one since doing that might affect the company like how that small indie company imploded because of it
>>27522558nijiseethe
>>27521226>and you need 100% of your brain during codingthis person clearly has never done coding
>>27522549Noticing your friends' numbers being cut in half isn't proof of numberfaggotry.Just a look at Ollie's stream choice is more than enough proof that she is not a numberfag. Same girl who begged people to not sub to her because she doesn't think she deserves 1 mil subs.
>>27522316>welolbut your to late since the ratsnest that houses junsgang already knew about this 30 mins ago for some reason
>>27522375I definitely remember some drama about a Nijisanji Liver making a stream about Gura and getting called out for leeching but I don't remember who it was
>>27522570we just need to hope that nobody reports the channel
>>27522389He already forgot salome blew a 10-2 lead last month
>Lui gacha over 10kNice to see Lui hitting 5 digits.
>>27522608Those niggas sure are fucking fast
>>27522614Yeah, I hope that JunsGang will not do anything about the clear violation of YT's TOS
>>27522636It's a collab with Laplus, but yeah good for Lui-nee
>>27522557Rrats. Gundou was taken out of context by shitposting nijiniggers and juns gang. Gundou fucking knelt to FBK when nijiniggers were trying to cancel her because of Fromsoft permissions ‘loophole’. She’s a whore not a cunt.
Oh no, what are we gonna do?Surely Junsgang won't do it, right?
>>27522646>>27522608unironically too late on that partthey got the news faster than we did for some reason
>>27521970I have some vague memory of some nijijp saying gura cute but maybe it's all in my head
>>27522517The block came from NijiEN's side.
>>27522517nijien management blocked it
>>27521206Damn. HoloX trully the unity gen huh? I have this feeling they are being prepared to be the daisenpai for the next holo gens, when the older ones retired
Mio getting 18k on solo MHR Sunbreak is actually quite impressive. The game has been out for almost a week and multiple holos have already streamed it. Not even Fubuki got 18k and she's one of the MH nuts of HoloJP.
>>27522724That was their purpose apparently
>>27522591nta, well going through over stackoverflow wouldn't be an interesting stream though, or just malding over when you debug shit and you can't pin point where the issue is.
Oh, kobofags tourists from Facebook learned another term and they are spamming it. In this case "JunsGang"
Another raid for the team!
>>27522458I dont think so since it wasnt managements fault
>>27522761>one kobo image attached>It's kobofagsYou retard
New rule >Holocure don't count
>>27522781inclining
>>27522675Yeah, I meant to type gacha collab, but I had a stroke or something.It's a shame that Lui's channel is a debuff. On Laplus' channel this probably would've cracked 20k. I don't understand why more people don't love this hag.
>>27522276>>27522284>>27522382There's a loophole that if you didn't make the channel but you appear on it it's not considered ban evasion, it's how Keemstar has gotten away with being on YouTube but just being "the host of drama alert" while someone else manages the channel even though he was permanently banned from the platform
>>27522781DORYAAAAAAAAAAAA
Why is /#/ so proud about being hall monitors?
>>27522169Have any Holo ENs mentioned any Niji EN except Pomu on stream? I know they've interacted on twitter with multiple ones but they only one I've ever heard them say out loud is the fairy.
>>27521583The only real malay in myholotv just lili
>>27522761This ive been watching Nijisanji and vtubers ever since they debuted the EN branch and this JunsGang is just a cope for people here who like to raid nijisanjiIve never heard of this jungsgang until now when they were caught red handed raiding other people
https://vrabi.net/video/ug087e_cajgOnly 7k for Beni VSpo ringfit. Sex doesn't sell that much, it seems.
>>27522447A random drop of a couple hundred viewers doesn't mean Lamy tanked Marine's stream. You just proved to be a retard that believes the shitposting in this thread
>>27522761JunsGang Assemble!
>>27521774>i don't think a single NijiJP member has ever acknowledged holoEN to this day.King actually watch gura
>>27521043WT....
>>27521735Mythi is a fucking well known anonBut tell me other my chuubas other than lili
>>27522517Because Niji JP doesn't need market exposure, and Niji EN does.
>>27522808
>>27522744More people are waking up to the glory of hags. This is great news.
>>27522860Hal being a chumbud will never not be funny. Even his JP as fuck chat knows to spam "a" at the mention of Gura.
>>27522276>>27522311NO! Just because it’s a flagrant violation of the rules it doesn’t mean you have to report, SPECIALLY because it could cause trouble to the whole company!Be decent! Don’t (I said DON’T) stoop to this level
>>27522169? Nijijp and holoID gundou-ollie literally collabing anon
>>27522851meant to quote >>27522518
>>27522214>>27522181Jesas.. this is just sad. Imagine years of grind gone up in the smoke.
So who reported Moona's unarchived karaoke? Anyone claimed responsibility?
>>27522830Gura asked what the fuck diamond city lights is then ignored the answers. As close as it got for her
>>27522838"Junsgang" would refer to vtuber antis in general, but this thread has basically turned it into a way to call for raids. But since jannies don't look at this thread outside of reports nothing happens
>>27522951Nijiniggers, more likely
Pekora moved stream to 22:00 higher chance for marine funnel. Maybe got a message from their manager. https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1544257262914785280?t=HjFqxSw_2AwzucNH9n778w&s=19
>>27522181This won't end well. You are not allowed to create a new account if your old one got banned
>>27522860There's also that vampire looking guy who has entire play lists of songs from other chuubas attached to the channel, he has a bunch of Mori songs
>>27522214>>27522181It takes a fucking 1 month... Just to get processed
>>27522957Fucking bitch, no wonder HoloEN is in decline lately with their walled garden shit
>>27522951>>27472055susans new tweaks to the ai
>>27522951probably some madass fujos because Vox lost the race
>>27522990overlapping coffee elf's holocure tho
>>27522744Can gura get 30k on MHR?
>>27522990I love the number rabbit
>>27522957People think she was memeing but it seems like she just didn't know what it was and with as paranoid as she is about what she's allowed to talk about certainly wouldn't have said the answer if she bothered to look at chat and saw it.