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I love my wife

NEKOMANCER LOVE

So bros.
What’s going to happen to her in Woke Shojo when she accidentally reads a superchat saying “Neegah! Sankyou!”
Full blown Twitter meltdown?

>>27417679
Urusai nye ga

>>27417679
>huh? me no speaky englishy

Nazuna promised me a marriage stream

>>27417679
She's BIPOC so she can say it. Next question.

>>27417679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwgaTTQx93g
I hope so
would be a great

unity

I know I'm probably one of the last people really coming to terms with this, but I can't get over the fact that a disgraced Rushia is now joining with the previously independent Coco and joining vshojo, a corporation of whores where the flag member got her start doing 3D hentai streams.
Real life truly is stranger than fiction. Because this legit seems like a fucking fanfic written by an underaged horny teen. It feels like the next chapter is going to involve a terribly written orgy.

>>27418539
Yeah just a day ago this would have been the most ridiculous rrat on the entire board.
It is pretty fucking weird.
They could have even made a new indie company of their own.
Choosing VShojo, a yab filled woke company on twitch with no JP ties is weird.

I love this fucking bitch.

>>27417679
Your going to make a bait thread about it and no one will care.

>>27418539
hot

>>27418681
I guess it gives them more resources. Given they're the first of the JP branch, they probably also are the ones who get to create the culture around it. Whether or not it's whorishly lewd and what not. I suppose I see the benefits of it.

If there's any genuine fandead still here I hope you guys are doing alright, no one deserves this. And it looks like all the Vshitshow fags are only interested in "converting" you to their whore bullshit.
I want to say you had it coming for sticking with her after the whole yab, but I feel like if the exact same thing happened to my oshi instead I would have been retarded enough to keep supporting her as well. Good luck.

>>27419915
>Kson is going to save the company.

>>27420102
Let's be real. Basically everyone who is active in this thread is a Fandead. Everything's going to be just fine. The fact that she got in at all is an indication that the corp doesn't care about the drama surrounding her. And neither do we.

>>27420272
me on the right

>>27418681
It's much easier to join an established brand than it is to start your own, just like you're more likely to succeed opening a McDonalds franchise than you are opening Anon-sama's Artisanal Sneedburgers.

>>27420272
me on the left

>>27420272
Me in the middle

>>27420434
I LOVE YOU MIKE

>>27420353
Yeah but this is like joining a shitty restaurant that serves food you’ve never had before and probably won’t like based on your home country.
At that point might be better to just try to make something you know you’ll like with the employees you have already.

>>27420272
No one is worried about her not being good enough for the corp. People are worried about this garbage ass corp not being good enough for her.

>>27420582
She was previously the Queen of Superchats. Even when she switched to a new account that wasn't heavily advertised or anything, she had tons of people who followed her. Even the support of just the fans overseas was enough to encourage her to come back. She's doing amazing for herself even with 99% of her streams behind a paywall and on a website that nobody really uses.
The corp could be the most flaming pile of shit imaginable and it wouldn't matter in the slightest. And at least she'll get a chance to dress up in idol clothes and perform again. I guarantee you she'll be crying tears of joy either before or after said performance.

>>27420851
That’s true

>>27420582
If the corp is really what it claims to be then there should be no problem. It's not like they'll force her to collab with other people or whatever.
The worst part is the bad reputation but let's be honest in the eyes of most people her reputation can't really get much worse than before.

>>27420434
SHE'S /HERE/!

>>27419915
Imagine kson being unironically in charge of company culture and trusting Rushia to be the founding stone for that. A new unicorn and gachikoi friendly company in japan joining the market, competing with the already well established companies. You're a western troon? Go watch the whores; you're a JP or a JP connoisseur? Enjoy Next.
It doesn't sound so bad to be honest.

>>27421507
Bingo. And given vshojo already has a considerable presence in the vtuber agency marketspace, the JP branch (which will likely be more wholesome and idolish) will likely be the first thing that is genuinely able to compete with Hololive. Or at least grow to a point where it can rival them.

>>27420582
No offense but I actually think this is a more riskier deal for vshojo given the whole controversy she's had.

I was thinking about this. For one, I'm glad she's getting a new home. BUT, I don't think it's as bad as some people think.

If you paid attention, she's joining VShojo JAPAN with Kson. The EN VShojo is probably going to be somewhat separated, just like Hololive's EN, since they can't talk JP well.

So that means it's effectively two branches, it's going to be VShojo JP with Kson essentially in charge.

This is like if Kson finally got to start her own idol agency except she's starting with one already having some reach.

If they are separated like this they can maintain their JP standards and still be in a group.

This could actually work out pretty well.

>>27421724
Vshojo is already controversy incarnate.

>>27421747
I don't have an issue with vshojo like some people here so I'm not too concerned about that. My main concern is that going for a completely new design/brand is a bit risky. But I guess that was the best option for her if she wanted to move on from all those past issues.

>>27421747
we'll have to see, the language barrier is being under estimated, yes kson can translate but it's always going to be less intimate speaking through a third party, which might actually be a good thing. I'm hoping for a cordial relationship between her and the EN girls, but also hope they don't try to convince or shame into doing career suicide (for her) with males. If they can respect each others boundries maybe things will work out, it's hard to say

>>27421709
And from said competition the ones who will win are us, the viewers. After all no competition calls for stagnation.
I really, really can't see kson actually advising vslutjo people to make JP branch whorish and cum reeking; people tend to forget about it but kson is still gachikoi friendly (in her own way though): she doesn't have a bf and says she won't have one as she has her fans. Sure, she collabs from time to time with males but that doesn't cancel the other part. She knows what JP fans like and hate. She lives there, she's being subject of such fans. I can't doubt that she will always advice to go for the idol route for the JP branch. It doesn't mean every new talent will be GFE but it does mean nobody will bring bfs on stream or talking about being penetrated while traveling. At worst it will be like Norio's approach: seiso idol no males side and then the other side.

>>27418681
Kson is pretty clueless about Western internet I bet vshojo with guntrun begged her to join for months and she had little to no idea what sort of reputation they actually have outside of some redditor hugbox (she even had a nux taku collab just after his whole drama with those whores). Anyway kson should be fine for the most part but if she actually talked mike gatto into it holy fuck joining the shippers company where like two members openly stream with their boyfriends, one flirts with a 3d youtube dude and another girl is actually a dude, holy fuck that's a terrible PR move after the whole mafu drama, I guess she trusts kson blindly like a child but it's bound to end ugly.

>>27422089
That's what I mean.

The language barrier is actually a good thing if you're worried about the EN girls "corrupting" them.

It'll be more like two separate groups under one banner.

>>27422178
>where like two members openly stream with their boyfriends
Veibae actively avoids streaming with her bf on her main. Nyanners also hasn't streamed with him on her main since they became official.
I imagine they might do it sometimes in the future but I feel like people keep overexaggerating the whole bf thing.
You are right about Ironmouse basically flirting with Connor all the time though, her fans are unironically bigger shipfags than the ones with actually bfs.

>>27422178
>two members openly stream with their boyfriends, one flirts with a 3d youtube dude and another girl is actually a dude
Topkek. Nevertheless you're forgetting she was in a company where a talent was fired because of alleged sexual favours, a manager harassed a talent to the point the talent had to move to action herself because the compsny wasn't doing shit to help her, a talent pretty much was caught with a dude in her apartment and going to see hosts, a talent makes erotic videos for adults portraying herself partially nude, another talent that goes by the nickname of "CEO of Sex" quit... Hololive is good but it's not like they're saints. They have pure people and not so pure people; vshoujo will be something similar: whole EN side will be as cancer as it is and JP side will most likelt be more seiso.

>>27418539
I'm a bit late on the news but I just saw the announcements and the clip and I'm losing my shit
What the fuck is this clown timeline

How long will it take the pajeets working twitter's customer support to free my wife..?

I trust in Mike and Kson, there's no need to freak out.

Rushia debuted with Marine, the horniest lewdest Holo, and Noel, who does stuff I guess I can't talk about because of Rule 1. Anyway I don't think you need to worry about VShojos who don't even speak Japanese corrupting her.

>>27423024
I'm loving this timeline. If nothing else, it's unpredictable and a hell of a ride. If it was a movie, I'd be loving it.

>>27421187
She managed to convince her fans that she's actually single, that was her only win in this whole drama and now she's joining a team of whores with boyfriends and other dudes, it's like the opposite of what would be a good fit for creator like her.

>>27423501
Mike will reshape the company into her image, all will become GFE

>>27423024
Regardless of how one feels about this, this is genuinely the craziest thing ever if true.
It's like a shitpost from this board became real.

>>27423570
holy based

>>27423101
Wow she's already back https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna

>>27423884
gunrun-sama, I kneel

>>27422666
Afaik both nyanners and veibae barely even stream on their own main channels since they started dating, veibae was notorious to just stay in soda's chat while giving 0 fucks aboug her simps even openly making fun off them at times.

>>27423884
I kneel...

>>27423137
That's a good point.

>>27424290
Nyanners has pretty much stopped streaming.
I guess full time cum dump and sandwich making for aethel.
But I noticed he seems to stream more than ever.

>>27424659
>vshojo girls continue to get BFs and stop streaming
>losses all revenue
>rebrands as GFE company and forbids talents from having bfs
this is the future

>>27424290
Both of them had issues with lack of streams even before they started dating though to be fair. Might not be fair to attribute that to their bfs if it's just on them.

>>27422768
Holomem don't bring their boyfriends on stream that's a huge difference, Rushia would not even acknowledge the stars exist so I highly doubt she wants to be branded together with the likes of "bubi" or asthelcuck even on a banner.

>>27424787
The only real revenue loss is for themselves since well obviously you make more money if you stream more. For VShojo it doesn't matter, they make money from things like merch and sponsors. They're free to make their own schedules pretty much.

>>27424998
I was just kidding brother

>>27425179
I know. I was just pointing it out since some people get confused on how VShojo makes their money.

>>27424998
Holos make their own schedules too, that's not a novelty and vshojo have 11 million $ from investors but I'm not sure exactly how that works. Either way company outside of mouse feels like a zombie, they're not even the biggest vtuber org on twitch anymore.

I picked a random Veibae VOD to watch to get to know her and she directly says she's chat's girlfriend in it. I thought they were anti-gachi too but are we sure we're not getting ahead of ourselves? It's the one where she plays Wind Waker, in the zatsudan bit.

>>27425475
>they're not even the biggest vtuber org on twitch anymore.
They are though? At least on EN. There is no other large EN vtuber org on Twtich.
Are you talking about something from KR? I heard things have been going on there but I don't pay attention to that stuff.

July 16th really can't come soon enough
It's only been a day and it feels like ages

>>27425590
Isegye Idol basically dominates Twitch now, and VShojo regularly gets outdone by indies like Shylily and (especially) Shxtou

I have no idea what their plan for EN side is since two out of their three big streamers have basically quit regular streaming. Hopefully JP has a brighter future.

>>27425747
Shylily is like the same level as them, and Shxtou is a fujobait male so I don't think they're worried about him. They're just 2 indies anyway.
Isegye Idol is a South Korean group, I don't think they're concerned about them if they aren't trying to break into the KR market.

>>27425747
Yeah you’re right.
Honestly besides Mousey who else even is regularly streaming? I only ever really see mouse pop up the few times I go to Twitch.
Nyanners getting railed and making sandwiches.
Froot only streams like twice a month.
They better have some EN members on the way too.

>>27425739
Imagine if this whole time it's actually not her
What would you even do?

>>27426053
I'd probably pass out

>>27426053
Honorable sudoku for confusing Mikenyan with someone else

>>27426053
At that point I might as well give her a chance at least after all that time, especially given that she sounds similar

>>27425587
>I'm your girlfriend chat
>I'm also the girlfriend of a millionaire Twitch streamer, Sodapoppin, who will pump me full of cum when I meet him one day but don't mind that

>>27426053
Simple.
Just wait for Actually her to join as well.

>>27425587
I've been stalking their general for a bit to get a bit of info.
From my understanding, their thread used to have both Nyanners and Veibae gachikoi (I assume they mostly just call them parasocial something or other, but who gives afucking shit?) in their threads until the whole boyfriend bullshit. Anyways, the general reaction there to a few of our posters (myself included) has been one of two ways: firstly, looking down on us as mentally ill and weird: secondly, seeing us as an amusing yet positive influence on their thread.
Despite the reputation, there were legitimate gachikoi following their talents, so I partially feel that our wife will genuinely soak up that part of the audience while at least being somewhat tolerated by the others,

>>27426305
I don't think you can glean anything from that thread.

>>27425752
useful research post

>>27426028
streams in june:
veibae 10 (despite everyone saying she's on hiatus)
silvervale 14
zentreya 20
apricot 7 (she was on break until june 16th)
ironmouse 23
melody 10 (on twitch)

hime hajime and nyanners are really the only ones that have been MIA

>>27426305
As a genuine nyansling that felt devastated by the news and haven't watched her since, I will give your wife a chance anon.

>>27425475
Mouse is really the only one I would say I tolerate, as it is really hard to hate her. It is why I am giving the Vshojo JP a chance. The question is when is the first big yab coming, after all, they did just hire two controversial talents, and they are not known to handle that sort of thing the best.

>>27426305
As a visitor from that thread, I can tell you that you shouldn't take anything being said in that thread seriously at all. It's unfortunately become a shitshow ever since it became more popular.
As for Nyan and Vei, they never really tried to pander to the gachikoi audience that seriously (well Vei is a bit weird about it sometimes) so I feel like any gachikoi for them are just mentally ill.

>>27426368
If you are able to read through bullshit, you can. And trust me, I have waded through the scum fields of many a bait thread on this shithole about my precious wife to know how to read genuine posts apart from mindless shitposting
>>27426464
I will be honest, anon. It was only after the boyfriend controversy with Nyanners that I realised that there were actual Nyanners goslings (guess this means gachikoi, right?) on this board. I tried my best to express my sympathy to them because I was very much aware of the potential pain that could cause thanks to the controversy that my wife went through back in February.
In my eyes, as long as you respect the relationship between my wife and her fans, you are most welcome to enjoy her and appreciate her for the wonderful girl that she is.

>>27426449
To be fair to Nyanners in June she was moving at the start of the month, and then she caught a bad case of covid like 2 weeks later. Her schedule was already rough but she did get pretty unlucky in that month

>>27426272
More importantly, it's a hint that we may be exaggerating the danger of new fans to her.

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1543727019149520897
kson better keep her hands to herself

>>27421709
>Bingo. And given vshojo already has a considerable presence in the vtuber agency marketspace,
A considerable presence in the western vtuber marketspace. Getting Kson and Mike is big for them but it is a strange way to go about launching your JP branch at a western con when all of japan is asleep. Also I dont see them competing with hololive until they can actually build their own talent rather than just poach those built by other agencies( I know hololive does that too but they have also made talents as well)

>>27426627
Very nice to read and based. I was never big on Rushia way back then when I used to watch Holo, but I won't expand on why, I'll do my best to respect her and her fans. Honestly, you guys might help save the /vsj+/ thread from the tourist tumor, that would really be for the best in the interest of unity.
also i was probably one of the anons you talked to back then, i was going mad. so thank you.

Mouse will protect her.
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1543736572406894592

VShojo didn't have a huge japanese presence before this but there's this artist who does these cutesy stylized pics that fucking loves the group and she just did her first Nazuna.

>>27426998
>100% vshojo jp members sleep together

>>27427331
Vshojo obviously should've done much more, 2 is just not enough to start a new branch. And 0 new english hires. Shocked they didn't announce a date for other new members. Something very clearly went wrong in the audition process, I remember reading an (unproven) account of someone who participated and was strung along for months with piss poor communication from management, eventually quitting out of frustration. Their management can really be shit sometimes.

>>27426627
>It was only after the boyfriend controversy with Nyanners that I realised that there were actual Nyanners goslings (guess this means gachikoi, right?) on this board.
I never realized that either but I guess some did exist. Honestly, I don't have much sympathy for them. As far I know she didn't seem like the type that tries to appeal to gachikoi, they really only have themselves to blame for taking that risk.

>>27427383
Looks kinda weird but cute too

>>27427484
I think Ironmouse mentioned there is more to come so we'll probably see more members added soon

>>27427555
She did.

>>27427383
Oops I forgot a link. It's a very pastel Powerpuff Girls-y style but I like it a lot. Possibly someone to follow given how often she does VSJ art. https://twitter.com/puryurumeuu/status/1543736761330765824

>>27427484
Wait until Hitomi Chris and Mano Aloe show up

>>27424916
>highly doubt she wants to be branded together with the likes of "bubi" or asthelcuck even on a banner.
And she won't. I think that's pretty obvious. It will be like holo death: one stream every 6 months and that's it. The rest will be with kson and the newcomers of vslutjo jp who I don't think will be straight forward whores.

>>27427383
not proof of a large japanese presence but i found this interesting pic from their VILLS concert

>>27427484
There's a rrat that they're adding this VTuber: https://twitter.com/MemoriCiena
They used all her "bosses" songs during their announcements. Nazuna lost her memories. Memori. Uses the same lolipop in her twitter handle.

>>27425587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qz1CO5gZLU
Everyone, watch this video I found. If you didn't know anything else about the woman, she'd seem like the cutest thing ever.

13 days...
unless she says it straight to our faces before then, we'll know if she's nazuna in 13 days

we should change the thread's name
rushinazuneko?

>>27428811
MiRuNa

>>27428811
Not until it's officially confirmed
Feel free to brainstorm until then

>>27428811
I was going to ask: if this is Mikeneko's attempt to start fresh away from her schizo antis, should we respect her attempts at doing this by downplaying the Nazuna or should we just incorporate her into this thread because it is our wife?

>>27428811
>>27428894
Narumi

>>27428957
We should include Nazuna, we have more fans than antis in here

>>27428957
If it ends up being her we should include her
besides the whole "You know who she is" thing Kson did kinda downplays the whole starting fresh thing

>>27428957
You shouldn't go into her chat and post "rushia boing boing necromancer BRUH" but there is no point in engaging in some sort of keyfabe on an anonymous imageboard about something that was common knowledge immediately.

>>27423024
Scientist fucked with something and we all got pulled into the craziest and shittiest timeline possible.

>>27429065
what the fuck is that image

>>27429138
Anon, for her to start fresh, she would have to use a voice changer all the time, stop being retarded.

>>27429291
I don't think she's trying to start fresh
rude

>>27429157
>You shouldn't go into her chat and post "rushia boing boing necromancer BRUH"
Even though it is less frequent these days, I'm still annoyed when Kson is doing a karaoke and some greyname keeps shouting "SING WEATHER HACKERS!" You guys will have to live through some amount of it initially, but I know your oshi can handle herself and ignore it.

>>27429286
Not that Anon, but I see:
Towel...
Tokyo Tower...
Tonka...
Tortellini...
Torpedo...
Tarantula...
Tortuga...
Twin Towers...
Triforce...
Trowel...

And maybe five others that I can't quite put a name to

>>27429420
That's like the least annoying spam she would be getting within the last 4 months in her chat honestly
>加藤純一最強!加藤純一最強!

>everyone's wondering whether to add Nazuna to the title
>I'm here wondering whether to follow her with the nekofami account or make a new identity that's similar enough to easily tell it's me

>>27431205
you got 13 days to decide

>>27431205
Did you make a new account to follow Mike after Rushia got terminated?

>>27431246
Guess if it is her and plenty of nekofami aren't hiding it then might as well. Saw one use their Rushia account replying tk one of Nazuna's tweets too.

>>27431408
Not really new since I was already following Mike with a different account, so I just moved there. Old account had a tweet go viral with antis during the announcement so I went fuck it and deleted that one

Cute. Vtuber from this post >>27410555
is Mametchi who's done a ton of VShojo merch art and she just posted her first Kson + Nazuna art

>>27432456
cute art!

>>27433900
fukken saved

>>27436332
https://mega.nz/folder/L2pCxDTA#qEi3BztGLnvYo1WDQJJfBQ
go nuts

cute wife yeah

Confirmed?

>>27443019
You peoples obsession with orca is weird, but yes a lot of the gachikoi are pretty much all in with nazuna already. It'd be real awkward at this point if that 1% chance it's not Mike ends up happening.

>>27443019
Wow, even Orca believes. Confirmed.

>>27443448 >>27444542
Considering he probably dm'ed her and asked about it first, I'm officially onboard with this rrat

i wonder if the people who bought the rushia engagement ring merc now have something that can be resold at a profit

>>27444542
This is unironically the biggest evidence that it's her to me

Zentrella is a man?

>>27445302
The voice is ridiculously obvious...

>>27447204
Zentreya. Officially, and for all intents and purposes female. Believe to actually be played by a couple (man and woman) based off the types of movement she does.

>>27447874
Sure

>>27447874
Can you all at least keep this argument out of this thread? It's not on topic

Can't wait for the 16th

>>27448166
Haven't been this excited for a while

>>27448047
Anon asked politely, what was I meant to do?

>>27444856
I have first run tapestries of both coco and rushia that I was going to sell at profit but now making a wall of retirement.

>>27448047
Sorry for asking but I want to know who are the people my wife can collab with

>>27447204
It's a mute female character from the VRchat days before anyone called themselves a vtuber in the west. 99% of those are operated by males.

>>27448452
Honestly, don't worry too much. The likelihood of her collabing with most of the vsj girls is close to zero. Reminder, no forced decisions under vshojo management.

>>27448707
It is ultimately up to her if she wants to collab or not. I imagine there will probably be some occasional collabs with some of them but I highly doubt we see a collab with her one zentreya.
The language barrier and the tts make it very difficult. I don't even think most of the original vshojos collabs with zentreya that much despite being good friends with her.

>>27448869
*and zentreya

>>27428811
Rushinekozuna

nazurin

>>27429157
>keyfabe
heh

Is it for real that nazuna is mike?

>>27451095
all signs point to yes

>>27451095
A lot of strong signs, but I guess we'll have to see

>>27451095
Look at Orca's twitter. It's not confirmed but very likely.

>>27452872
>Orca is our indicator on if it's real or not
kek

>>27453092
You laugh, but you know it is true.

>>27453092
He forfeited his Mike rights, the damn traitor

new insta story
RUSK
yammy

Was going to ask in the /jp/ thread but it's somehow shittier in there than here so I'll just ask here.
Is it basically confirmed it's her or are people still just assuming off voice and other stuff? The tweets really do sound like her and her voice is a perfect match, was just wondering if there was a confirmation somewhere.

Nazuna tweet. She's trying to decide on an art tag and a fan name.

>>27456910
yeah it's confirmed, see >>27443019

Nazuna's tweeting a lot.

>>27456910
It's not officially confirmed anywhere, it's just everyone agrees it's highly likely. We'll probably get our "official" confirmation on the 16th(?) when she debuts.

I've done it, I've jumped on the bandwagon... If it isn't her then the only thing left for me is death, castration, or death by castration

>>27456987
>>27457075
Ah, cool. Not a fandead/nekofami/whatever but I've been following her around out of curiosity so I'm interested in seeing where this will go. Hope things turns out well, maybe having management will help her with dealing with antis.

>>27457149
If it isn't her, we will all commit seppuku for falling for the impersonator

>>27456926
I see some good suggestions
Hope she finds some she really likes

Might be worth watching the kson stream for nazuna questions, but I'll sum it up

>vshojo is just an umbrella
>everyone is still independent
>they just provide support
>including security and legal assistance|
>otherwise, they wipe their own asses, kson's own words

If we're lucky we might get some nazuna answers, but no clipping

kson confirmed that's rushia in her stream
go watch her now

>>27452872
Alot of the diehards I knew have followed on as well so orca is but *one* confirmation

But we could all just be trend chasing, I hope nazuna *is* her because if she isn't she's gonna get a hard fan drop, I'm still in for her but as another person entirely

>>27458985
Everyone that wasn't a schizo already knew all of this, but it's nice to have Kson confirm it.

>>27459078
>>27459033

>>27459033
>>27459143
>kson confirmed that's rushia in her stream
Fuck off lying cunt she's focusing on the vshojo stances now, NOTHING has been confirmed

But we should watch it with the live TL app enabled so half 1 point for you to suggest it

>>27459164
.... stop falseflagging here anti go shitpost somewhere else.....

It's her. There's no reasonable cause to doubt it and hasn't been for a long time. But keep debating I guess, it builds hypes.

>>27460087
Neither vshojo nor mike would want people to think it's her if it wasn't her. I'm convinced the misunderstanding would already be cleared up if if was someone else.

SAVED

>Nazuna feels like a Senpai
lmao Kson, just say it at this point

>>27460734
....kek i'll post this when it goes the other way round.... kek..... can't wait for....hehehehehe

>>27461402
when Nazuna collabs with me, yeah

>>27461402
Considering Hime exists there really seem to be no hard requirements, but I'd be surprised if they aren't incentivized to participate in some group events.

https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1543947766627704832
She's so happy bros...I'm so glad

>>27458985
What baffled me the most is that she mentioned that Vshojo doesn't take a cut. She mentioned that if you want to support Vshojo, you should buy the merch. But surely their business model is more than just merch, right? How the f are they planning to make good money?

>>27460789
1:14:38 Kson: And Nazuna-chan will be working with me for this too.
1:15:01 Kson: I will definitely be collabing with her lots!
1:15:04 Kson: I picked her up.
>i picked her up
kson is a saviorfag...

>>27461843
>How the f are they planning to make good money?
Merch and sponsorships

>>27461843
merch always makes the most money, followed by sponsorships, and that's where vshojo wants their cut

superchats/memberships are peanuts in comparison

>>27461715
cute!

>>27461843
I think merch sales are a bigger part of revenue than most people think. And I think they take a cut from the sponsorships they help the girls get too.

>>27461936
>that's where vshojo wants their cut
>vshojo doesn't take a cut
????

>>27462026
i didn't watch but i assume she meant from donations

vshojo most definitely takes a cut

>>27462026
anon, it's like you're going out of your way to be retarded
VShojo doesn't take a cut from Superchats/donations and memberships

>>27462026
They don't take a cut from direct stream income like ads, superchats, subs, donations, memberships, all those things.
They sell merch and get sponsorships for the girls and that's where they take a cut.

>>27461843
Vshojo is still only like 8 members total, not like Niji with over a 100 or Holo with over 60 members, not sure how much money they need to pay the staff behind the scenes but there can't be that many.

>>27461936
Actually a genius move if they let them keep superchats/memberships in return for a bigger merch/sponsorship cut.

>>27461936
Interesting. I always assumed that merch money would be irrelevant compared to membership/superchats/donations. I guess I was just projecting since I've never bought any merch in my life.

>>27462250
if they didn't bankrupt, and vshojo members are ok with it,
it seams it's working pretty well

>>27462395
i think the cost is more justifiable as you actually get something in return instead of just a colored message

i guess now if you want to donate directly and not hand over vshojo a mystery percentage of your money you should superchat instead though

I'm not from here, but I dreamt about Nazuna. I have to learn Japanese I suppose.

>>27462395
That probably varies from talent to talent. Gura is the face of hololive en and probably a merch monster, but isn't a huge performer in superchats as far as I know. Rushia was the queen of superchats.

Jesus fuck, this thread is retard central.

>>27462482
Apparently the JP branch will be getting bigger cuts from merch that have the JP members involved too, in case you do want their merch

Also Kson did say the debuts will be on twitch, so if you don't have an account you might as well create it now.

So how much will (You) give Keychan on her first monetization stream?

>>27463229
My amazon prime sub on twitch debut for now. Might as well use it.
For youtube I'll decide that when it happens.

How soon until Vei will mention having talked to "the actual idols that left hololive" again?

>>27463908
well this time at least we'll know her claims are legitimate

>>27465944
Yeah it's going to be real smart to leak even more things through her. No one will suspect a thing.

>>27462576
It's literally half tourists at this point given the number of people who for some reason think Orca DMs her

>>27465674
>fake ears
>fake paws
Are we assuming the tail is fake too?
>>27466833
I definitely assume we have some tourists here. It's only a small thing, but I noticed an increase in referring to her as Rushia right after the announcement. The regulars here have been calling her some variation of Mikeneko for quite a while now, only opting to call her Rushia in reference to her time in Hololive. Calling the girl "Rushia/Ru" without referencing her past activities stands out a bit.

>retweeting fanart on Nazuna
Just reminding me that another side effect of her antis was that she had essentially stopped retweet Mikeneko fanart. I hope this cheers her up.

>retweeted the same fanart twice
cute

>>27420434
You don't look like that

I like this one

>>27467837
I'm liking all the cute art with Kson she's getting
aaa fuck, I'm really happy for her

>>27443448
>barely anyone gave a shit about big name gachikois
>huge drama happens
>suddenly a bunch of people start sucking off big name gachikois
I wonder why our culture suddenly changed hmmm....

>>27420851
>vshojo
>idols

>>27458985
That's somewhat reassuring but it doesn't really get rid of
>twitch
>vshojo fans being in her chat and on twitter, trying to get her to stop doing "cringe" or "toxic" stuff
>collabs with vshojos and their circles
>shared MC server with men

>>27468741
>vshojo fans being in her chat and on twitter, trying to get her to stop doing "cringe" or "toxic" stuff
in english, and they'll be bullied away

>>27468741
>list of things that haven’t happened

>>27468741
>collabs with vshojos and their circles
>>27460734

I don't enjoy kson and disagree with almost everything she's done since she left.
She had absolute trash collabs with people like Nuxtaku, Melody on Chaturbate and even appeared on Trash Taste.

I respect her for being a good friend to Rushia and being there when she needed her no doubt, but I really don't want her to drag Rushia into this degeneracy or have any of her God awful ideas rub off on her.

>>27423024
lulu soon

>>27469155
>>27469059
>>27460734
Not prioritizing it doesn't mean it won't happen.
All the things on that list will happen.
She already has a twitch channel, she will at least occasionally stream there.
Fans are obvious, already happening.
Collabs will 100% happen too at some point. No one can actually tell me she'll be in vshojo for 3 years or however long without ever being in some collab with another vshojo.
She will also 100% play MC again at some point and they only have one MC server which already has and had guys on it.

>>27469159
either she joins VShojo with Kson and gains an actual support system and friends she can play with, or she stays in this miserable circle of suffering and antis she's stuck in

>>27469155
>>27468741
she'll do the mandatory interview with ironmouse for sure but I really doubt there will be many more collabs beyond that

>>27469273
I don't think those were the only two options but whatever, she's joining, nothing will change that.
I just hope she won't end up like kson. Like I said, things like collabing with nuxtaku, appearing on trash taste, being on chaturbate, etc.pp.

>>27469442
What other realistic options are there?
She'll be fine, just trust her.

>>27469273
>either she joins VShojo with Kson and gains an actual support system
What does this support system even do when they're all about that talent freedom? Tell her how to set up Twitch?
>and friends she can play with
What friends? Vshojo is apparently not a box like hololive so just being in it doesn't mean you collab with anyone there and nothing will really change.

>>27469567
They have management you buffoon, she can ask them for help with tech and legal issues, just like Kson said.
>What friends?
VShojoJP isn't just gonna be Kson and Nazuna forever, use your head.

>>27469442
>things like collabing with nuxtaku
That one at least definitely won't happen after the shit between him and Vshojo.

>>27469641
What kind of people are going to join Vshojo JP? I hope you understand that not all people that want to join it are like holos. If anything they would be the opposite.

>>27469442
Those people don't speak Japanese and she doesn't speak English, so I don't think you have to worry about collabs with TT, plus just because she's on a Minecraft server with guys doesn't mean she plays with them.
The worst thing I see happening to her is her doing a collab with Melody on chaturbate watching shitty memes

>>27469723
>What kind of people are going to join Vshojo JP?
big JP indies, most likely

>>27469799
The trend with JP indies is that the actually big ones stay on their own or start their own group. It's the smaller to medium ones that join these groups that still promise independence.

>>27469799
Deluta unironically

>>27469909
There really isn't a need to join a group like vshojo unless you are too dumb to know how to use OBS or Twitch
You join Hololive if you have idol aspirations. Otherwise you might as well be on your own unless you're really small, in which case you're not gonna make it into vshojoJP anyway

>>27424916
those guys arent part of the vshojo banner, even if they are tied up inter personally with the girls they have no direct ties with the org

>kson straight up confirming she dragged her into this too
I was right to blame her
My wife is innocent and doesn't even understand the implications of joining this whore house

According to their general, the Vshojo shared Minecraft server is effectively dead and if they were to start it again, they'll be making a new vanilla one because it's a lower barrier of entry for people.
No reason to assume Mike wouldn't poke her sweet little head up at some point and mention that she'd like to be on a girl's only server.

>>27470281
Your wife is way the fuck past whore tier in mental illness

>>27470314
Aka a 1 person server no one else will be on

>>27470314
>mention that she'd like to be on a girl's only server.
And you really think they would agree to that?

So much bait

>>27432456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-56x7std2pU

while i personally find it disgusting i hope for the best for rushia's mental health
reddit dragon is a disgusting yab machine and she better not corrupt her

HOLY SHIT LOOK AF MY WIFE

>>27470878
She is, but within vshojo she might still end up as the least shitty collab option actually when you compare her to the others

>>27470878
Kson WILL corrupt Mike and she WILL play ARK 2 with Kson.
It's all over.

>>27461909
https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1543947766627704832?s=20&t=_3zz48tyb-evbSofqCkQ1w
my dude she says it herself, she probably reached out to a few jp companies and was turned down because it's a bit of a racket there, once you piss off one brand you're dead. having this connection gave her a way to build again, this time with control over her IP

>>27471036
>once you piss off one brand you're dead. having this connection gave her a way to build again, this time with control over her IP
that's pretty sad if true

I'm a bit envious of the fact that Lulu managed to come back strong and how well she's doing all by herself now. She just streams by herself and her fans get to enjoy her a ton. Would have been amazing if Rushia could have done it too. She was so close, too.

>>27471135
too many antis
you know how it is

>>27461843
think of them like an actual talent agency from the USA, they make cuts on deals they bring in, they don't just automatically get a % of every single thing the person does.
yall really so deep in the JPtuber hole you don't know how regular ass talent agencies work anymore do you? as kson said VShojo merch with her on it funds Vshojo, her own self-produced merch they don't touch any of the money on it, her own SCs and donos are also all her own.
She gets paid the money she makes, they get a cut when they add something to the mix.

>>27462099
>>27462089
>>27462075
only merch they personally produce, any merch the talent self-makes/funds is all their own. kson even said her pop up store is all her own profits, none goes to vshojo.

>>27471135
I don't know much about Lulu but I'm just gonna assume her mental strength is much higher than Mike's

>>27471188
I wonder if Naz will get the same deal, being their first original character.

>>27471135
lulu situation when she leaves niji isn't comparable to her at all

>>27470992
The literal porn actress is arguably better. Maybe Silvervale too.

>>27469255
I mean there's two, Vshojo and Kson servers. I imagine she will spend way more time on the latter, still men on it, but they are also vtubers and (at least not openly) flirting with the females. (they have their own simps to worry about)

>>27469771
joey actually speaks fluent japanese

>>27471125
even outside of talent agencies, it's almost unheard of for people to switch jobs like people do in the west. you basically pick one company to bet on for your whole life, and if you're hopping around? trust that your former company will be contacted and WILL shit on you for leaving.

>>27471370
I wouldn't even assume they had anything to do with designing it. The first VShojo batch had 2 "original" characters but both have made it clear that they own everything about the character. And yeah like that other anon said VShojo only takes a cut on merch and sponsorships that they acquire for the talent. If Naz talks up fuckin Capn Crunch or something and they approach her for a sponsorship instead of the other way around she'd keep all the money for that. Same thing with merch in that merch stores they run they take a cut from, but if she decided to run a second merch store entirely by herself where she sells cereal bowls then VShojo wouldn't take a cut of that either. It's a pretty great deal for established indies.

>>27471370
it's literally their entire mission statement, it's on the FAQ on their main page, talents own their own IP.

>>27469771
josh the manga lad is N1 you liar

>>27471001
>Kson WILL corrupt Mike and she WILL play ARK 2 with Kson.
Hasn't Penta suffered enough?
How many more must my wife kill in cold blood

信じる

>>27472707
don't be silly, penta loves it!

>>27472940
I can see the pain in his eyes

wow they really weren't joking when they said this was the calmer thread wtf

>>27476632
That's the pain from being separated from his loving owner for so long.
He'll be happy again soon!

>>27476965
Emphasis on CalmER
The advantage is that when tourists get used to us using one we can swap to the other
Usually, anyway. This time both are being shit on.
I'm sure some anons are still antsy too and I can respect that but unfortunately they probably get why it's hard to tell right now

>fun game streams and collabs as Nazuna
>Serious talk as Mikeneko
As it used to be

>>27477561
I'm still praying for cooking streams and the very rare facecam stream on Mike.

>>27477561
honestly seeing how Nazuna's yt numbers are really going up as drastically as a new holo ch does for example and the simple fact that Mikeneko has nearly 1 mill subs gives me the hope that maybe Nazuna will be the secondary channel this time and Mikeneko will still be the main one.

>>27478085
*aren't really going up drastically
is what I meant

>>27478085
I doubt she'll treat it as a secondary channel after Kson went out of her way to get her in.
Her subscribers should start going up once she's actually streaming there.

>>27478085
I feel like a lot of people are just waiting for the 16th even though anyone who has heard her voice before knows it's her. Once she streams and people hear it's her 100% it wouldn't surprise me if the yt numbers skyrocket.

>>27478241
I really don’t get why she is going through and making a new name, model, channel, brand, etc when she already has a significant following on her main Twitter and YouTube. The best guess I have is that it is a “new start” as a hope to shave off antis, or there’s something legal preventing her from joining as Mike.

>>27478647
Maybe she just really likes the kayfabe aspect of vtubing and Mikeneko is already too closely associated with her as an actual person. Trying to throw off some antis could have been part of the reasoning as well but it really didn't last long if that was what she wanted lol.

>>27478622
People are probably also assuming the Youtube will be the secondary Nazuna channel instead of Twitch.
There's not even a profile picture on the Youtube channel. I had to double check it was the real channel through their website before she put the link on her Twitter profile.

>>27478138
part of that problem is she linked her twitch channel only, at the start, and only added her youtube like 2 days later

>>27478622
Mikeneko's channel literally skyrocketed off of nothing in just days though. Doesn't seem to be the case this time.

I come from the future. Mike will have a mental breakdown 1-2 months in because she is still getting antid on the JP side and she is still recovering from the trauma of losing Ru. Vshojo fans will blame her toxic fans that wouldn't let her move on and escape GFE and go on a moral crusade against idolshit. Mike will come back after a break and continue like normal

>>27478647
>>27478833
FUN

>>27478647
I doubt there were any issues with her Mikeneko model, I don't having two pink cats on the same group would be an issue.
I think she just wants to start all over, I mean the subscribers on her current channel include a bunch of antis and dramafags that only followed because of the termination, so maybe she wants to reach 1M subscribers without relying on those numbers?

>>27478837
I believe that, maybe she thought she HAD to stream on twitch, the youtube channel does seem like it was put together hastily, but Kson said straight up there's no pressure to prefer either platform

>>27478898
Has Youtube improved their moderation tools any? Becoming primarily Twitch might seem like a weird thing initially but the tools are there to put a stop to bullshit and work very well. I didn't follow Coco super well but I know that was a thing people blamed when it supposedly took months for Chinese antis to get dealt with.

>>27478647
She probably couldn't have profited off of her gifted model in Vshojo merch, stuff like that so she rebranded. In this way treat it as her being in Vshojo as her job but I truly feel like all the deep talk and personal shit will still be as Mikeneko. Only this time people know Mikeneko more than Nazuna

>>27478950
even if I fucking hate twitch and everything about it, people I know that stream on both say for talent its monetization is vastly superior. i just hope she is too retarded and sticks with youtube

>>27479041
Awhile back I remember Mikeneko talking about she was working on a way to do twitch to do watch alongs and stuff mainly.
I feel like if she did keep on that promise that's what we can expect her twitch channel to be.
Youtube definitely seems like she'll be more comfortable doing game streams there more than Twitch.

>>27479041
I think Kson has the spam protection that she used to have on her Coco channel.
Mike could get the same if antis start spamming

>>27479181
Yeah I suppose in the end we'll see. Just throwing that out there as a potential reason she might want to use Twitch primarily more than Youtube. She'll probably have some people willing to help her out on the moderation sense but if the tools aren't there then it won't make much of a difference.

>>27479319
VShojo might be more willing to get moderators or even implement stuff like Nightbot on her channel if needed, maybe.

>>27479090
yeah, gifted models have caused problems in the past, melody had a massive fucking shitstorm happen over hers, even though she did pay them some money in the end, it wasn't a set in stone contract from day 1 and caused massive issues.
either way her michael model's creator was following nazuna's twitter since way before the stage announcement, so chances are they knew before the model was even made, as kson said she was already talking to VShojo in march

>>27478904
Yes
>>27479090
I don’t really see how the model being gifted would be a problem, her mama and papa seem to be supportive enough of her to not object.
>>27478905
If reaching 1 million is her goal for the new channel, it will be quite an uphill battle at the current rate (which is not indicative because the channel is not set up…) but she is only 150k away on みけねこch.

To be honest if she streams on Twitch I won't watch, hate that site too much

>>27479462
>VShojo might be more willing
As opposed to what? Herself?

>>27479537
I felt the same way about twitcast at first…

>>27479575
as opposed to Cover
Mike has temporarily given people mod status before, so I know she's not opposed.
I highly she would ever be capable of setting up something like Nightbot on her own though

https://files.catbox.moe/jgaxyr.mp4

>>27479537
Not a fan of the site but it's not really a dealbreaker to me.

>>27479643
>as opposed to Cover
So you're saying they didn't let holos get Nightbot and mods on their Twitch channels?

>>27479512
>her mama and papa seem to be supportive enough of her to not object.
everyone is supportive until Money is eventually involved anon, that's just how this sad miserable world works. This was probably the compromise

>>27479728
Oh, I have no idea about the twitch channels
I was talking about their YT channels

Mike said her home was Youtube, plus the japanese use Youtube more than Twitch, plus kson has said she would only use Twitch for collabs and English streams so we can assume Nazuna will stream on Youtube.

>>27480279
Yeah I feel the same, People are overlooking way too much into twitch just because it's vshojo.
if anything though that means Mike will do movie watchalongs with us on Twitch at least.

>>27479656
Why isn't her cloths magically coming off

>>27480557
what clothes

>>27478647
she probably wants to retain the rights herself

Rabu yuu, neko

>>27483166
Yammy

new thread soon
somebody else get ready to post it please mobile sucks ass

>>27485696
I've been ready to post it for a while now but threads keep getting deleted