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>Food
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>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
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>>27409271
Is there a reason for the technological gap between the Ryugard fleet around 1110 and the Nijisanji fleet circa 1120 (I assume)
"Wasn't thinking of that when I wrote that sea battle" is a valid and relatable answer, I'm just curious kek.

wrong past thread
>>27333217

>>27409542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbzRuZmqVM
https://rentry.org/5rvp6
RULE NIJISANJI, NIJISANJI RULES THE WAVES. LIVERS NEVER NEVER NEVER WILL BE SLAVES!

>>27409660
The answer is I wasn't thinking and that Galleys were used in coastal waters during this time period too. Need to re write that anyways (It's hard to navigated huge ships in that area anyway because of draft.)

>>27409795 (me)
Once again, this isn't ENs fleet. It's JPs. I am only writing on Alice-chans behalf.

>>27409660
i assume it plays also into the fact ryuguards were corrupt as hell?

as for /vrt/ i made it a point we don't even have concrete numbers because we made a whole chunk of our coast shipyards and onobots are constantly financing new ships just cause wich then immeaditly get send out for trade and such. thus not even the nation tiself anymore truly knows whats sailing out there

but /2434/ numbers don't seem overpowered at all to me

>>27409924
Also should say that the draft isn't ideal for huge ships of the line operating in that area. Problem is I wrote the First act with 16th century tech.

>>27409795
Righto, I figured it was something like that. Cool navy anon! I'm curious, what ship is the one in the Amagi pic? I can't reverse image search right now.

>>27410067
HMS Royal Sovereign, I think in 1700

When are we building a Canal here in Watamelon?

Can /nasa/ send a diplomat to /rose/ without being vaporized by canon fire?

>>27410252
as soon as we get a watamelon rep that agrees to it and nasfaq is not successful in stopping it

>>27410392
>Nasfaq
Wouldn't both Morig and /2434/ want this? Hard to imagine them stopping the two most powerful fleets in the world.

>>27410252
please not another canal shitstorm

>>27410384
Why would you get attacked trying to visit?

LET'S DO THE TIMELOOP AGAIN!!!

>>27410384
Do you honestly think we are savages like that?

/vrt/, /morig/ and /2434/ dominate the waves.

>>27410676
>>27410726
Well kind of. Where I live if someone enters your house uninvited you blow their head off.

>>27410840
nasfaqg has a pretty good fleet too

>>27410877
If you use the right diplomatic channels, you are always welcome so long as you don't break the law. (Don't touch the sacred Forest). As ambassadors, you will have an armed guard protect you as long as youre in the Empire. Once you are in /rose/ you're on your own.

>>27410529
nasfaq is fucking rich, in part due to every ship needing to pass through them, so they can certainly put some economic pressure on watamelon

/morig/ also is on good terms with /risu/ and thus have access to the trade road there wich is right in front of their doorstep and should be lucrative thanks to the existing trade alliance making heavy use of it.

>>27410529
Pretty sure /morig/ and /2434/ will just use the route over /risu/

>>27410975
I'm guessing humans aren't allowed to visit the sacred forest?

>>27411058
/2434/ doesn't have those rights.

>>27411108
Only Pomudachi are allowed, they are humans.

>>27411133
You can if you ask. You will have to pay in nut.

>>27411217
I'm not the rep, I cannot make those decision for alice.

Praise Moom!

>>27411188
/nasa/ will never enter territory we are not invited to enter. That's the rules of us spacemen.

:)

>>27410877
You might get interrogated or watched from afar at first, but you won't be attacked or anything. /rose/ is wary of people, but they aren't immediately hostile. Yet. It depends on how people treat them, for example they might be hostile towards Dragoons.

>>27411302
what a funky beat, where might that have come from?

>>27409726
THIS IS SO COOL SENPAI. THANK YOU SO MUCH. how do i make trade deals and who wants one with /2434/

>>27411435
/nasa/ would bring cookies to Rosebutas like we discussed a long time ago. They are preserved cookies. So you will have to heat them up in the oven or under a rosestone for a bit.

>>27411435
Considering Pomudachi and Rosebuds are usually friendly (We did start /rose/ again if I remember.) what are our relations
>>27411519
You're welcome. I didn't know if that's how you wanted it but if you like it, it works for me.

>>27411519
for rule of thumb you can assume that your trade ships handle any open ports they can access and do general trade for resources regardless of any written down agreement and vice versa would our ships with your open ports.

trade deals specified in the thread are more for either very specific things liek for example /vrt/ trading war goods for pomerlanes personal equipment.
or trade agreements that are supposed to showcase a more in depth dealings of nations, for example /vrt/ and /who/ agreeing to free trade with no taxes between each other as well as granting port offices to each other respectfully.

>>27411845
ok. I still am not sure how to make the economy make sense entirely (i don't know why I put absestos down as something we mine as if its good), but I think its reasonable to think with what is there it is understood what we have to deal, right?

>>27411980
>absestos
Despite its reputation, in vitubia we have no clue of its consequences yet and it is great at preventing fire.

Risuners, I saw you wanted to trade something for nuts. What is offered?

speaking of trading and nasfaqg...
>>27408198
we've got a pretty liberal trade policy, you can just come and sell your stuff here (Unless otherwise specified, you can assume commodities such as precious metals or gems as payback) We specialize more in manufactured goods and services (we have skilled craftsmen!), and this includes repair and resupply of ships, as well as offering sailors, navigators, and mercenaries for hire.

>>27411657
That sounds lovely then. We'd be happy to have you over for the first time.
>>27411674
>usually friendly
I'd say our relations are strained... At best. Yes Pomudachis have helped with starting /rose/ back up, but they also have a tendency to be rather rude over in /NijiEN/. It's hard to call Pomudachis friends when they like to fling terms such as "rosecuck" and attempt to turn us into the next Pentomos. Not to mention their natural arrogance is rather off-putting. I mean no offense when I say this, it's simply what I've observed.

>>27412411
If you take what EN general says as proof of anything, you would think Rosebuds are spreading CP on their and goreposting. Not to mention the constant falseflagging of everyone by everyone.

>>27412520
Exactly my point, we have a history of being slandered. Of course there's falseflagging, but the frequency of it leads me to believe that there's some genuineness in the mix.

I haven't visited since baking yesterday's bread. I'll backread some time later, but is there anything I should catch up on immediately?

>>27412411
>>27412520
>>27412817
Shut up about EN General, which is a toxic wasteland which I abandoned because everyone is toxic. it's not one fanbase, its all of them. I remember Rosebuds being just as awful as everyone else and Pomudachi are shitheads there too.

>>27413043
you want people to write nations about their generals without talking about their generals?

>>27411462
Some Gungeon/Nuclear Throne style game
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1304680/Voidigo/
Music is from a level where the enemies are owl cultists I like to pretend theyre Hoomans

>>27413117
That's not what I meant. Those two were fighting over who is the worst in EN general as if everyone isnt a asshole there. I

>>27413238
That's not what I and Rosebro were saying, I was saying that I think his opinion of other fanbases is too heavily influenced by EN general.

To whoever that started this meme, fuck you
Everywhere i go I keep seeing it

>>27413429
Kek!!

I hate being an esl sometimes... sorry for jumping in

uhm, speaking of nasfaq btw, they also got deleted just half an hour ago appearintly

jannies are on a crusade it seems

What just happened?
Uh, in any case, my perception of /NijiEN/ is what I'm using for the /NijiEN/ nation because that's the main reference point for how the nation acts.

>>27414102
Then I will see Rosebuds for what they generally are over there too. Sounds fair to me.

>>27414046
that was beccause our op was apparently "not safe for work"

>>27414046
No fucking way...we might be in some trouble after all if nasfaq bit the dust.
Are Yubi and Holofightz still up?

>>27414281
This is the most unity thread on the board. Of course we are in trouble. Bait threads good.

>>27414203
That isn't a valid point as I'm not using /NijiEN/ Rosebuds as a reference for /rose/buds. You should see your own sect of Rosebuds the way they generally are over there.

>>27414233
yeah but normal jannies delete the pic and not cut down the whole thread for it

>>27414469
It is because I am using LazuLight General for Pomudachi while you aren't.

what the heck are you two even talking about? don't both fanbases exist in both?

>>27414558
You never stated that, I don't think. Weren't you a /NijiEN/ rep first?
>>27414622
Yes, but they act differently in different threads.

The basis for interactions with threads that have a rep should first and foremost be what's been written about that nation's people. Don't turn this thread into a place for you to hold fanbase wars.

>>27414674
I declared for LazuLight when I voted because i became a rep for both (really EN generals rep is actually Comfyanon)
>>27414773
Thats why I am confused.

and there goes /hag/

nijilands are getting confusing right now, who is what now?

>>27414773
This isn't a fanbase war, we're discussing the general attitude of the people. I was under the impression that Pomudachis in the Nijicontinent acted as the ones in /NijiEN/ did. Just because we push each other a bit doesn't mean we're at each other's throats.
>>27414875
Ah, alright then. I'll have to look into how Lazulight General Pomudachis act then. I'm not too familiar with the general.

>>27415050
I am growing increasingly worried about our continued existence.

>>27415086
me too

Establishing communication links near the interdimensional voids
We're in!
>/ag/
>>>/d/10279790
>/become/
>>>/trash/49019224
>/meat/
>>>/trash/49019049

>>27415050
Ignore me and my autistic friend. Everything is fine.

>>27415069
Generally as I wrote. Just think Pomudachis without being total assholes and more unity.

>>27415125
Looks like the meatheads are having fun

>>27415086
If writing goes, we go. Not worried yet.

>>27415268
I'll try to think more open-mindedly towards them. Just be aware that it'll take a bit for my impression of Pomudachis to be more positive. I've been assaulted by those /NijiEN/ fucks more times than comfortable.

>>27415341
alright guys, time to open the bettign pool:

who goes first? /wg/ or /vtwbg/

If we go, where do we go?

>>27415560
probably /trash/ if they're not feeling mean

>>27415560
I’ll post my shit in EN general or LazuLight or Yeah depending on whom i am writing for. EN general never gets moderated anyway.

>>27415560
nowhere, if the thread goes then I'll give up on the project

>>27415560
If we go to /trash/ I'll keep going, but otherwise I'm just quitting. Interacting with other nations is half the fun of the project. If I didn't care about that I'd just be writing fanfic.

>>27415424
Can I get a trade deal with you rosesenpai with /2434/?

Pretty sure this shitshow is a one time thing

>>27415648
>>27415697
>we never accounted for the Jannies going schizo
I think Janny will either get tired or lose his mop priveleges in a day or two so it'll be fine.
How would this entire event be represented in lore, since jannies are now targeting several major nations

>>27415786
i sure do hope so

>>27415786
Its been going on all day, I reckon they are getting rid of the horny threads since nasfaq just was taken down for its OP

>>27415707
Sure! Do you have any ideas on anything you want to trade?

>>27415861
Probably a Custodian came out wrong
>Janny council creates a new Janny
>Somehow fucked up the ratios and material
>He went on a rampage

>>27415892
we got taken down again

>>27415903
what do you offer? I dont know entirely what your people want but we can give cannons or ships you want.

>>27415964
Fug

>>27415892
if they wanted to just get rid of horny threads they are doign a pisspoor job at it seeign as /ltg/, /stg/, /uoh/ and the belly button one are all alive and well

>>27415964
What was the reason this time? If you got taken down, I think we are fucked because we are similar.

>>27415934
Meidos, your homonculi creation reps...

>>27415934
eh, meidos just are like that sometimes, you get used to it.

Man, i LOVE when d*xx shit and poltical threads are left up for hours while chill threads get culled.

/nasfaq/ is back.

>>27416261

>>27416013
>cannons or ships
Oh ho, now you're speaking my language. We are in pretty big need of ships, at least learning how to make them. We can offer minerals and metals, alongside some rosestones if those pique your interest enough. Do keep in mind this trade won't take effect until after we officially reveal ourselves. As it stands we're an isolationist nation that no one knows of outside of /risu/, due to their investigating.

>>27416525
what kind of minerals and metals? We have a huge shipbuilding industry. What does Rosestone do also?

>>27416525
Also can I find you using Noraneko? Haha

>>27415125
can someone remind >>49032673 to tell the billposter that the wife of the creator of mai-chan's daily life is a vtuber, and that >>49023882 and >>49023895 are official art from her booth? the jannies banned me because i posted gomi, which they think counts as loli for some reason. sorry if i'm being annoying.

>>27416901
do it from your phone mate, shit. This isn't a postal office

>>27416953
sorry, i should just restart my ip, but i'm not thinking rationally at the moment for some reason. also, that doesn't work, i've already tried.

Can we bring back herbs and ingredients from the interdimensional horny jail? These gluttony demons are innovative.

>>27412336
Pretty gemstones?

>>27417468
Do not consume herbs from /trash/!
Who knows what they grew on
Furry cum? /mlp/ juice? Or worse

>>27417507
What gemstones? we want the same deal as morig. We offer guns and boats too.

Feels good that risuners we're the first to explore /rose/ and get them pretty gems that are little suns. And not only did we get to nut in them but we even taking some of them home. Risuners can't stop winning.

>>27416642
Minerals and metals are all listed here. https://rentry.org/p8f6f
Rosestones are basically little solar charged rocks that let off heat and light when friction is applied to them. If too much friction is applied too quickly they can spark and even cause explosions.
>>27416726
I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean here, how would Noraneko allow you to find /rose/?

>>27417598
Risuners are obsessed with gems as much as nuts. A different variety is preferred over a bunch of the same keep in mind. Currently at work though so I'll get back to you.

>>27413144
Do you have some grudge against Whomans?

For reference of rose please read risu rose story. A lot of detail is in there.

>>27417669
My brain too smol to understand how anything works with metals so rosestones just because that is unique. Also i have an idea about shipwreck causing discovery

>>27417716
Ah, i see. I dont think we have any of those. But i think we can middleman a deal (is that how you say it in english?) where we get the same rights as morig and we set up a trading port for gems from lazulight.,

>>27417852
That's fair. A shipwreck works well, if that's the way you want to go. You can also say there was a schizo attack on a caravan, but they were saved by some Sunwalkers.

>>27417728
Lmao. Theyre owls with runes doing cult shit
Theyre obviously whomans

>>27418181
Ok! Can you help me with resources because I dont know what would be in /2434/? Do you make it up (i did because i thought that is what you were supposed to do. I know we are on a plate and have tropical monsoon weather.

>nasfaqg immigrants have occupied the serene lands of bizarro vt
>>27417199

>>27418275
I'm not too familiar with that sort of thing either, to be honest with you. I simply asked a geo anon to help me out and he was nice enough to do so.

>>27418300
how do we explain all this in-world? a war? a massive scientific fuckup transported half the fetish continent to other dimensions at random?

>>27418401
Fine, ill just bs it then with what I wrote already. But shipbuilding cannons and exclusive trade port for rosestone?

>>27418520
The SEA peoples

>>27418557
You should really just ask a geo anon what metals and such you have instead of making it up, unless you want to excuse it with chuubanite shenanigans.

>>27418520
Id say it's less transport
And more dimensional warp-ish
Like, physically theyre not cut off
But they are connected by rosen-bridges

>>27418685
Is he here? I will fudge it with Chuubanite for now, since we have the most in the world concentrated because of Rikun accelerating.

>>27418520
>combined fuck up of a schizo janny being created and a /vsj/+ ritual that crossed the sea and agitated several schizos

>>27418703
Help everything is weird as hell here

WAIT. Can I colonize these lands now?

They've been banished to the Slanesshi realms

>>27418773
Or a Janny going apeshit after /vsj/ annexed Kson and Rushia land

>>27418703
this. jannies are so fat, their baby tantrums shift the fabric of reality itself, sending multiple threads to other dimensions like sending a fish to land.

>>27418771
if he is not around atm you can always try and compare what RL nations in a similar position as yours have and base it on that.

>>27418838
pretty sure when you arrive there you wont find empty ocean/land
the moment you walk into the affected region you are transported to the other dimension

>>27418879
Ok! I actually think what I wrote make sense given that because Tropical Monsoon has a lot of raw materials in the areas that I saw irl. I think have a ton of oil and rubber

whole fetish continent smells of hot pockets today

>>27418953
>be pajeet shrimp swimmign in the ocean that is rightfully yours
>find empty space with new ocean you do not remember being there before
>claim ocean as yours as it should be
>get buried alive as the fetishcontinent rematierialzes into our world

>>27418953
Nijisanification must go on!

>>27418953
what're the other dimensions like? should we create some fragments for other boards to explain roughly what would happen or should we ignore that

>>27419462
This would go into 4chan-verse territory
And thats a whole other can of worms

>>27419548
exactly what i meant my ignoring it

>>27419462
Honestly, I think that we shouldnt get into that. If they are gone for good, have a super volcano or something go off and wipe them out. It will naturally cause other issues but lets not think too hard.

>>27419650
they cannot all be gone for good, it gotta be just one new janny not gettign the board

i will riot if /hag/ is no more, i will turn /vrt/ into a retro game and retro woman thread if i have to

>>27420038
>if /hag/ is no more
anon...

>>27418520
Arent all the areas deleted areas coastal? Some sort of janny-caused mega-tsunami?

>>27420038
I am only say if.. i dont think so either myself.

>>27420738
They did also delete a bunch of catalog bait, last night global went from page 9 to 8 in an instant. A sea disaster would cover than probably

>>27420816
Its was the sea peoples invasion…

>>27420925

It seems nasfaqg is here to stay, seems the meidopocalypse is over and /vtwbg/ survived.

>>27421456
WE DID IT. WOOOO WE SURVIVED THE SEA PEOPLES!

>>27417568
I wonder if we should just act like /meat/ is still here for now, lest we grow a tumor on our lore trying to figure out how the weird inhabitants of /trash/ interact with this world.

How much official lore is there on what the Jannies are anyway? I don't see much in the lore archive.

>>27421612
if /meat/ does get permanently exiled to /trash/ then there's not much we can do to keep them in lore, I doubt it happens anyway

>>27421765
Yeah. Wait two weeks and if it is permanent, then we will have to adapt

>>27421756

the world is healing, things are goign back to their natural order

>>27421765
the idea that /meat/ would let itself get exiled to /trash/ forever is unlikely to me. best case scenario, getting sent to /trash/ becomes a weekly thing, but most likely it will return to normal. either we get banned and make new stealth threads to replace them, or we return to the era of /meat/ threads hitting bump limit undisturbed.
>>27421612
if there are any long-term new /meat/heads, i'll explain it by saying /meat/ procreated with /trash/ and made some unholy amalgamation of the two. all of /trash/ remains in /trash/ but now there are /meat/heads with half of their genes from /trash/. chances are fairly low of us needing to do that but i would like it if we brought back some herbs and ingredients as >>27417468 put it.

>>27421765
Worse comes to worse /nasa/ is just going to have to do chuubanite tattoo research on our own.

Does have a bunch of chuubas in your general produce a lot of chuubanite?

WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR

At least /vtwbg/ will stick around for a while. Today got busy for me. I'll see about writing tomorrow.

>>27422614
no, if anything and you want different chuubanites depending on livers isntead of a overall thread chuubanite it would make each kind super rare instead

>>27422851
So /2434/ has some of the rarest in the world.

>>27422851
i somewhat disagree with that idea, if that were the case then generals like hololive would be too overpowered, while threads like /nasfaqg/ wouldn't have any chuubanite at all. chuubanite type should be based on the concept of the thread, which might reflect the chuuba but doesn't need to.

>>27423035
I was told that Chuubanite was nailed down, now i confused….

>>27423035
as a nashag, I am personally a fan of nasfaqg not having its own chuubanite, but instead having various types of relevant chuubanite (of the vtubers that are found in the game). The idea of a thread concept chuubanite feels weird to me. I have no idea what to even do with something like nasfaqg chuubanite, what would it even do?

>>27423035
well first and foremost it should reflect the thread of course, it is why we got retro chuubanite for example instead of like 20 different ones and is also why nasfaq ect got chuubanite of their own. but generals based ON chuubas should also be able to have chuubanite reflecting those generals.

that beign said
>>27422991
that is actually a bad thing for you, chuubanite loses its effect over time and usage and with so many different kinds you would have a hard time makign actual use of it if you only got a handful of each. also there should be a limit even then because i doubt all of the 150 or whatnot chuubas of niji are actually gettign talked about in the thread only the ones that actually matter to the thread culture would be the ones having some

>>27423035
>hololive overpowred
>looks at indies and nijisanji with growing sweat..

>>27421736
I like to think of them as natural disasters.

>>27423262
chuubanite currency. it can be flexible enough to superficially reflect any other chuuba, but doesn't change it's type or abilities. that's just off the top of my head as someone who knows nothing about /nasfaqg/. it didn't even take me any time to think it out, this stuff's easy if you try.

>>27423531
we already have that, but currently it uses jsut the respective chuuba's chuubanite https://rentry.org/MerchantLore#vitubium-gold-alloy-coins

>>27423385
yes, fear our battle blimp

I finally finished my thread reps.
>>27355118
Japanese mythology is one of my areas of interest! We can work on this together if you'd like. Did you have any ideas for what kind of kami you wanted Tamaki to be? If you wanted to give her stuff that make sense as an actual deity, some combination of fortune, travel, chaos and change would likely make the most sense. Kami can get insanely specific though, so if you wanted to throw logic out the window don't be afraid to make it something weirder.
>>27391341
How does the war clause work with Ninisani's constant infighting? Is there just an additional clause about civil war being an internal affair that the allied committee won't bother itself with or what?

Regarding the potential watamelon canal, I just wanna note /nasfaqg/, or at least some of its plutocrats, are longstanding allies of /morig/ and could influence us to oppose the canal, especially since it cuts the trip big a smaller distance than say the potential /risu/ canal.

>>27424227
The war clause solely used against outside invasion in a defensive alliance.
>”Leave us kill each other in peace” is basically how that works.

>>27423631
>respective chuubas chuubanite
respective chuuba's thread's chuubanite*
but that just brings up the question of how you guystrack chuubas without a thread, or chuubas who share threads. or perhaps you really did set up your lore under the assumption that chuubanite is based on chuubas and not threads, even though the origins of this dispute goes back before we had chuubanite specifically, and has been going on for a while since then. can i ask you to change a few lines in your lore, or did the need for other forms of chuubanite influence your general enough that it can't be changed? what if your chuubanite required other forms of chuubanite to make, but was still your own chuubanite with different flavors, like how there can be different types of uranium, some that aren't radioactive?

>>27424227
good idea! I am studying it now to figure out how to write it.
>>27424258
Would you like to trade with /2434/?

>>27424547
I always thought the chuubanite was tied mostly to chuubas themselves, not threads

>>27424547
>>27424609 (me)
Ah, I can change things a bit if the thread consensus is that chuubanite is based on threads and not chuubas, and I not against having our own type of chuubanite, i just prefer the chuubanite is based on chuubas interpretaion. Im sure i can work with the alternatives too.

>>27424609
I think its a mix of both

I thought i would like writing myths but i trade dealing is FUN!!!

>>27424609
there were multiple long-going discussions about this. i thought it was finally over a while ago. threads that are based on chuubas have concepts that are focused on the chuuba, while threads like /horni/, /nasfaqg/, /retro/, /ybc/ etc, etc, aren't based on chuubas, and thus wouldn't get any chuubanite, and threads like /niji/ and /holo/ are based on multiple chuubas, and thus would get multiple types of chuubanite, which isn't balanced. being based on concepts forces each thread/nation to limit their powers to one, and also arguably gives us a more grounded and adaptable magic system. i figure the archives have some of those discussions, but idk if all of them were included because i didn't have the foresight or knowhow to archive them myself.

>>27424609
>>27424775
yeah its a mix of both.and how much your threads chuubanite specificly leans more towards one or the other side is a case to case basic really

>>27425241
what? we certainly never ended on this.

/vrt/ has always had chuubanite, i just changed it from the very early concept of having it based on several chuubas of the thread to one retro chuubanite and even that was long ago

>>27422218
> either we get banned and make new stealth threads to replace them
just where do you think we are?

>>27425416
i haven't had the opportunity to enjoy that bit of autism for a while, but there is basically no justification for one side besides a faulty argument that technically, if you stretch the definition enough, every thread could be said to be indirectly, loosely based off of one vtuber or another, or at least the general idea of vtubers and the stuff vtubers do, therefore all chuubanite should be based on chuubas. the otherside, in addition to being able to explain everything the other could have explained, also doesn't lead to setting-destroying logical inconsistencies that have to be handwaved away, or balance breaking paradigms where the biggest corpo also gets all the unique magic powers they could think of without needing to think of unique ways of using them.

>>27425852
the latter part (the one about getting all the magic powers) was supposed to be partially countered by the proposed chuubanite transmutation system, and the clause that chuubanite should not give anyone powers that are inconceivable for others to gan access to as well.

I think we my have screwed up by using a magic mineral as our sole power system. Unfortunately, like most other things in this thread, changing something that many people have invested so much time into is not going to be well received, which is partly why it's so hard for newcomers to actually contribute to the thread.

>>27426031
i remember a few votes where that was essentially disputed, which i actually never really liked, but i based my new ideas off of the restrictions placed by those votes. it was multiple votes, btw, at least three, but i can't remember the specific details that made the whole transmutation concept practically impossible. one of them was the region-locking ideas, but that wasn't enough on it's own to change it so dramatically. idk.

>>27426082
the question is, how much of how we currently use chuubanite can easily be transferred over to a more "classical" and free flowing usage of magic and how much would need to be scrapped.

honestly i am more than happy to change retro chuubanite into /vrt/ having developed some form of enhancing magic that our workshops use to bring out the power of items ect if it means getting rid of chuubanite because it jsut seems to turn into a headache and timeloop discussion each time it gets brought up

>>27426082
There's still fossil fuels. Its not like everything is limited to chuubanite.

>>27426625
the headache is a sign that it's getting interesting, imo. granted, i'm the kind of person that spends hours researching nuclear energy and physics for fun, so maybe i'm biased. i enjoy heated discussions about physics. making our magic system more simplistic and boring would destroy a large part of my interest in it.

>>27426625
I think it's fine to leave chuubanite as is. It's already a system where people who aren't interested in the fine details can just treat chuubanite like rock-based mana, while autists who love working out the gritty details can treat it as a more exact science.

>>27426783
it would be interesting if it actually moved towards anything but it always resets because most people clink out of the discussion half way through and then everyone is on a different point about it is even supposed to be and the archived stuff about it is incredibly outdated and then you have to spend most of the time even getting on a common point of where we even where with chuubanite and then people will get annoyed again and stop payign attention to it and instead move on to something else and yada yada timeloop

Speaking of chuubanite I really should figure out how to make gravity engines. If gravity wells are possible then perhaps /nasa/ isn't as far behind on engines as we thought.

>>27427093
the timeloop is caused by people who would rather leave than negotiate a better option. if people leave important conversations, it might be a better idea to voice the fact that they are leaving instead of ghosting without a trace. regardless, unless everyone educates themselves on the magic system, leaving it to vote wouldn't work, so there has to be another way to force a victor in one of those timeloops.

>>27427364
i figure it would require a bunch of chuubanite, and might only be possible with the aforementioned starchildren, being demigods and what not.

>>27427370
How about giving a succinct 2-sentence summary of how things work or the points in contention so everyone can be on the same page? The problem with all these long-winded arguments is that too much is getting lost in the weeds. A short overview of the situation to get people up to speed would be nice.

I just want to make a trade deal with my navy…

>>27427573
We can always retcon anything if it's needed too

>>27427616
What do you have to offer?

>>27426625
It's a tough question, especially if we changed to a magic system that doesn't use a physical material as its source.
>>27426638
Maybe I should have specified "Magic system" rather than "power system".
>>27427093
The worst part is that this basically applies to every aspect of the world, whether it be the borders, the map itself, the lore of every nation, the magic system, technology, etc.
Any kind of change after the initial creation becomes excruciatingly difficult, which leads to stagnation for discussion.

>>27427370
i think we should at least have an updated rentry on it tho since the archived stuff barely resembles any of the current forms anymore and also to come to term of a basic explanation of it that we can give to newcomers without having 5 different cases of "no actually that is wrong, chuubanite is actually THIS" wich would actually come down to at least once and for all decide if it should be chuuba based or thread based

>>27427573
no. absolutely not. if you can't understand it, you shouldn't have a say in it. that would do nothing but dumb down and ruin the system we have.

>>27427674
Anything in particular you want? we have good industry and raw materials.

>>27427771
Maybe that's what we need

>>27427771
If you can't explain your system in a way that people who know nothing about it can understand, then your system is too bloated. How do you plan to explain your system to newcomers if you can't even explain it to thread regulars?

>>27427715
honestly that is what chuubanite probably really should just be. the physical material that "mages" than use for their magics as energy-mana source

no specified chuubanite stuff per region that also loses its power if it is crossign the border and stuff.

just one chuubanite that everyone has and the unique flair is what the mages of each nation do with it

>>27409527
Ahhh... hot, sweaty, Indonesian sex.

>>27427771
I mean, I dont see any harm in writing a simplified explanation of stuff without going to all the details and examples.

>>27427771
If most people don't understand how it works then everyone will just end up doing their own thing in their lore, logic be damned. If you want people to use the system then they need to know its rules.

>>27427772
I still need to look into what resources my country has access to, so I'm not sure what we might need yet. Is there anything unique or cultural you have that might be of interest?

Things need to be complex enough to make sense, yet simple enough to explain to someone who has no idea what any of this means prior to. There is no in between. If you cannot do both, you cannot expect others always understand things that are “made up” like chuubanite. Not everyone cares about the autistic intricacies of everything. For example, i would hope you dont need to understand my army reform piece to understand how a battle is fought and why one side won.

>>27427888
i want it to be like physics. explain physics in a way people who know nothing about it can understand without oversimplifying it.
>>27427977
if it comes to votes, i don't condone a 2 sentence structure. if it's just explaining stuff to people who want a basic understanding, that's fine.
>>27428011
it's rules are simple enough, voting and disagreements with people who disagree cause a lot of complexity in the way those rules work, with some forgetting they even exist apparently. give me enough time, and i could probably give a simplistic explanation of the system that would work for most people, but if you want me to avoid any misconceptions i'll need a whole lot more than 2 sentences to fit in all the special interactions that people might be worried about. for instance, chuubanite is radioactive. it doesn't emit iodizing radiation, though, it can't reach critical mass, and it decays at a faster rate when in use, so i would have to clarify that much if i wanted to actually explain it properly before idiots make assumptions about what it means to be radioactive. that's just one of the nuances of the system. oversimplifying it would destroy it.

>>27427906
Yeah, the region based chuubanite always seemed so nonsensical to me. I'd much rather the magic be based on the chuuba or thread concept, which manifests through the people and wildlife of the thread nation, rather than some ore specifically.

>>27428154
same, i am 2434. Who are you?

>>27428319
It's perfectly fine to have a long, complex document about it. I think the priority at this point should be updating the chuubanite archives, because a lot of that information is outdated and just confuses newcomers when they read it, come in writing about chuubanite as it's presented there and then are confronted by regulars telling them that's not how it works.

>>27428326
it was based on a vote, i didn't like it either, but i had to explain a reason why it would be region locked, and the reason i gave was chemistry and, later, quantum mechanics.

>>27428420
I'm the rep for /wg/.

>>27427424
For huge gravity wells to transport a ship we'll need a bunch. But I'm thinking of another use: creating a small orbit of machines that float around the core. Because it uses meteor chuubanite as fuel the machine should be able to generate electricity with kinetic energy. No steam or water needed to push a wheel. This is going need a year or two of experiments to pull off a hypothesis to test theories. Perhaps longer.

>>27428319
the thing is tho, you might enjoy reading about nuklear stuff and shit but most of us don't want to read some research paper about some made up magic rock that we use for some fun writing in our spare time in a thread on 4chan.

chuubanite as it currently is, is an absolutly failed concept in its entirely. even on abasic level it cannot be properly explained to newcomers without turning into discussions as right now, and those that use it have it boiled down to such boring and basic shit because most just don't really wanna deal with it. the only nation to actively use magic is /risu/ and they made it in a way that completly bypasses chuubanite and does not need it to begin with.

you migth want it like physics, but the rest want it to be fucking magic, right now /nasa/ has more magical things than the magic nations because they have technology

>>27427616
We're always open for trade once we return from the shadow realm

>>27428615
Cool! You are close, i sort of made up what we have. from what i was told, we can just make it simple and set up trading offices in each others land and figure it out later. i know i have a big navy and a lot of merchants. Do you need any thing in bulk like iron ore, coal, copper, tin, or rice? we also have salt and some luxury goods too.

How does Chuubanite, space ships, gravity wells and anything else have to do with 1750 tech. This is so confusing….

>>27428438
This is clearly an issue that the people who voted in favor of that position didn't think through properly beforehand.
Having to come up with some arbitrary reason for why the magic rocks don't work in certain areas defined by political borders implies that borders are natural phenomenon that can't be changed, which is extremely impractical for the worldbuilding of this general where we have to change borders to reflect changes of the board.

>>27428319
physics is way more encompassing than chuubanite, too.

>>27428719
Hope you come back! What nation are you?

>>27428694
>us
some of us also really like the physics stuff.

Also, here you have to understand the history of the concept. When chuubanite was initially proposed, the general consensus was that there was no magic at all in the setting. Chuubanite was designed as a system that would make the /vtwbg/ setting a low magic fantasy, where magic is not too dominant and would be actually difficult to use. Back then most of >us wanted to avoid a situation where magic would overshadow technology (and I still want to avoid that. Technology should not lose to magic, they should be equals in what they can do, to a certain extent at least). To achieve this, a lot of restrictions were needed for the magic system. Thus chuubanite took the form it has.

>>27429154
Well, chuubanite mainly took the shape it did because one guy made a real long proposal, everything else got based off that until it started to get ignored.

>>27428326
>>27429000
The idea that always made the most sense to me was that the part of the heavenly realm that chuubanite bridges to is based on the beliefs of the person using it and those in the surrounding area. Chuubanite dug up in /fbk/ would be influenced by the overwhelming Fubuki worship and more easily connect to those concepts. If taken to /nene/ then the chuubanite would slowly adapt to the new dominant religion and eventually start behaving according to those rules. As for less chuuba-specific threads, I don't think it's fair to cut them out of the system entirely, so they would either have chuubanite specific to their combination of chuubas with its own effect or a variety based on which chuubas are discussed most frequently with the standard effects for each.

>>27429305
Yes, and that proposal was heavily influenced by what i mentioned.

I really think that Chuubanite needs to be put up for a greater debate on existence, and the general principles if we want it. Everyone seems to think it is something that another person thinks it isnt. Its a timeloop everytime and even if agreed on in the past, it may not reflect the present opinion.

>>27429139
/meat/

>>27428927
/nasa/ is an exception to the tech rule because they came from space, but their station is in a state of extreme disrepair to offset that advantage. Chuubanite is just something that lets us inject a bit of fantasy into the setting.

>>27429418
oh no!!! You scare me. But… maybe we can reach an agreement on something.

>>27429369
Agreed, the system needs to be reworked a bit, the outdated stuff needs to be marked as such in the archive, and a simplified document needs to be made for it.
I would like the basic concept and the basic mechanisms behind how the magic works to stay close to what they are now.

pomerlane senpai, i think i need more ships in my navy.

>>27429154
We could have avoided all these headaches if we had simply agreed as a rule of thumb that the more technologically advanced a nation is, the less magic they use, and vise versa, in order to balance out the power of all the nations.
The fact of the matter is that having a complex magic system is not good for a collaborative project meant for fun. It's great for a novel, but not great for someone who's new and wants to contribute to the thread.

>>27429657
>the more technologically advanced a nation is, the less magic they use, and vise versa
...Is that not how it's meant to be already?

>>27429657
the issue is that some generals wanted to do magitech.

>>27429648
Why, Alice chan? Are you going to war?

>>27429515
Don't worry about it too much, you're probably too far for the usual raids, plus we don't raid people who we trade with (assuming they're savvy enough to add it into the deal)

>>27429697
I think it's only prominent in the cases of /nasa/ and /risu/, who happen to be on the end of two extremes

>>27429154
and you can continue to love physics as much as you want together with everyone else that does it. you can come up with the most detailed stuff in regards of how your nation is gonna use the chuubanite for magic that your mages comes up with.

and i also do not want magic to completly outclass technology but as it stand right now, chuubanite has been nerfed so much that together with the fact that there cannot even be a consens on its proper definition that as of right now, it basicly does not really exist at all. the biggest uses of it right now is for the tattoos for nasa to explain why they can live without spacesuits.

thats it, everything else is of no importance. nasfaq uses it to make it harder to counterfeit their money, whoop de do, risu and meat uses it to make stuff grow faster, well thats useless in a setting that moves at the speed of plot. vrt uses it to make old stuff a bit more useful, that has had no relevancy so far either and can just as well be explained with having good craftsman specialised in that.

and all these people back then must have really liked the idea over time if most of them have since left

I know /nasa/'s rep gets a bad rap for over complicating things. I only had a few things in mind when I originally proposed chuubanite.

Chuubanite was based on Ragnite from Valkyria Chronicles. It was made with the idea that it can be used for fuel, medicine, and other chemicals. Chuubanite is made to bond with things because vTubers are suppose to bond with their audiences. Chuubanite can bond to things in nature to change how it interacts with things. You can extract vitubium which is the pure refined element in chuubanite. The idea of chuubaninte is that its suppose to be adaptable unknown magical element to fit any needs of any general that gives them a unique magical thing or technology. The exact science of how it works was never meant to be fully explained. The basics were there to give the mineral a start.

/nasa/ has its own way of handling chuubanite. And /risu/ has its own way of handling chuubanite. Both are valid ways of handling it. /nasa/ is only scientific with it because we're astronauts in a newly discovered alien world. /risu/ just make wands out of this stuff that bonds with the matter in pretty gems to make spells. /meat/ doesn't handle chuubanite directly. They eat chuubanite enriched foods to speed up the body's natural healing.

We don't have to explain every single process if its possible with real science because its still fantasy in the end.

>>27429697
Yes, but for some reason our magic system is standardized to a mineral with a bunch of complex properties instead of having a more freeform magic system that varies depending on the thread nation.
>>27429721
As long as they don't have space era tech there would be room for magitech.

>>27429445
how exactly is it in great disrepair besides the engine not working anymore?

>>27429888
Im fairly certain most of them are still here, minus nue, the kronies, and those who were very hard against any type of magic.

Should luxnoc have its own land at some point?

>>27430186
All the threads need a nation, it's just that we're probably waiting for a big change, like a new HoloEN wave, before we do a full overhaul of the borders and add all the threads not currently represented.

>>27430104
I might be misremembering the extent of the damage, but I think a lot of their systems broke in the crash. And what does work is in extremely limited supply since they won't have the infrastructure to manufacture more for a while.

>>27430306
Ah, gotcha

>>27429733
>>27429733
>>27429733
..maybe. Probably not, I just want to have the most powerful navy in the world because that sounds fun, or at least challenge for it. just for fun!
>>27429769
Cannibals are...scary.... But we aren't afraid to do business with them. What do you offer?

Also, i want to say that chuubanite needs to be understandable to a smol brained esl like me. I don't understand physics or magic or chemistry at all... I just want to have fun in this thread with everyone writing together and shooting sometimes at other people.

>>27430368
Based Alicechan

>>27430186
I'm technically the /luxnoc/ rep. In addition to what the other anon said, when I started writing for them the split didn't exist yet, but with the way nijien's lands have been set up in lore, even if we got our own land all that would really do is add a single squiggle to the map to represent our border. Lorewise nothing changes, so it seemed like more of a hassle than it'd be worth to call for a map change.

>>27430186
With my new map proposal, i designed for them to be put in where they are located lore wise in NijiEN

>>27430329
from the talks it sounds like they can produce futuristic food just fine, they also got their recycling systems working fine as well, their weapon system also seem fully intact including their big self destruct thingy. the living spaces also seem okay since it never sounded like they had to leave the station if not for the whole lockdown thingy or farming for basic resources to then process in their station, holochambers as well as their personal internet for entertainment also seem to function just fine

>>27428624
>most of us don't want to read some research paper about some made up magic rock
you don't need to. as long as the method remains flexible, most of the ideas you can think of can be replicated with the magic system. leave the how to the autists or read the papers. also, the unrealistic parts of technology are supposed to be explained by chuubanite. if there are aspects of their technology that don't work, bring it up, as for the magic nations, risu is a good example of what can be done without any need for technology. instead of technology, they use gemstones, which have a conceptual importance instead of a technical one. also, the only reason it might be considered a failure to others is because they don't take the time to understand it because the votes and the disagreements overcomplicate an idea that has simple enough rules if we agreed on them.
>>27429000
that was literally one of the arguments i used to force my explanations into place instead of making it purposeless. i said "what if it only bonded with certain types of material that was uniquely common for those regions instead of saying the nation itself had some kind of impact on the magic realm" and they said "ok, but what about when boarders change?" and eventually the idea that it decayed faster outside of a nations regions due to the magic quanta being weaker there etc. was established. it's the vote that changed the interactions without thinking of how the physics worked, but us chuubanite autists adapted to it and made it make sense in accordance to the voting of people who didn't care to learn about it, and now it's more complex, so new people don't want to learn about it, so i refuse to oversimplify chuubanite just so idiots can force us to overcomplicate it to explain the votes in a physical sense.
>>27429024
there is a simple solution to that.
>>27429154
>low magic fantasy
>understand the history of the concept
are you that atheist neckbeard guy from /who/? jk, lol. it's not low-magic, it's hard magic, i called it "hard magic science fantasy". there is a huge difference.
>>27429316
first idea had no way of working before magic quanta, second idea has never had any merit. chuubanite is thread based, not chuuba based, those two suggestions you gave after are arbitrary and meaningless.
>>27429888
chuubanite isn't nerfed. it has infinite potential that people are squandering because of "too complex, hed hurt" and stubborn ignorance. if you were clever, chuubanite could easily outclass technology, but you guys don't for some reason. why?
>risu and meat uses it to make stuff grow faster
gemstones and fleshgrafting. someone said i should nerf /meat/ chuubanite so it wasn't possible to keep someone alive without a head if their body were recovered fast enough, but i was able to get them to agree that it was theoretically possible in the future. if you want to blame anyone for actually nerfing chuubanite, blame that guy, but otherwise, it's just threads not thinking about ways to make use of stuff.

>>27430104
Our factories were destroyed before entering orbit. We had to dislodge them from the station in order to survive the landing. This means that aside from basic hand tools /nasa/ does not have any manufacturing outside of processing food rations and medicine. Even then our powered hand tools are limited based on the scrap we can solder together. There's also only 5000 Sanalites. And only 3500 of them are healthy enough to work. Its a logistics nightmare in /nasa/. We'll have to build tools to build factories that build specialized tools to build more specialized factories until we reinvent the microprocessor to build robots for manufacturing. Not to mention /nasa/ is going to have to reinvent steam engines with coal until we can make machines that drill shale. Unless we get lucky to use chuubanite as a shortcut for power /nasa/ is stuck with pre-industrial revolution technology.

>>27430368
>i just want to have fun in this thread with everyone together and sometimes shooting at other people.
Most wholesome /vtwbg/

>>27429928
I do agree with the sentiment of not everything needing to be explained. However, I do still think that some limitations and principles are needed to avoid too overpowered or setting breaking stuff, which is why I still think that infinite energy shenanigans, spacetime bending (especially teleportation and portals), unstoppable forces and immovable objects, uncounterable anti-magic, and perpetual motion should be banned, and mechanics that could lead to creation of weapons of mass destruction, or too powerful unique powers should be avoided or severely limited.

Chuubanite transmutation system was a decent answer to this, as it allowed anyone to theoretically gain access to any type of chuubanite, which was great for balancing reasons.

>>27430547
>atheist neckbeard
no. Also, i am not an expert on the correct terms so please do andastad.

>tags everyone

>>27430859
Artillery is everything.

>>27430547
>that was literally one of the arguments i used to force my explanations into place instead of making it purposeless.
Yeah, this is an unfortunate consequence of bad voting. I won't hate on the people who voted against you, but clearly they didn't think through the negative implications of that vote.

>>27428845
>we can just make it simple and set up trading offices in each others land and figure it out later
That sounds good to me. Maybe put us down for some rice or something for now. Do you know if there's anything you'd want from us? Based on the niji stories we get in /wg/, I imagine we'd also do some trading with /haha/, but I don't know that they have a rep yet.

>>27431119
Pomerlanesenpai is their rep. We could send some rice, what do you offer or wouls you just like to pay?

>>27430790
no worries, we've had many people in this thread, and the difference isn't something most people think much about.
>>27431041
well i'm glad someone at least agrees with me. i wonder if the vote would change if we were to have it again.

on a somewhat related note, and to make sure people notice this, if we are going to make a definitive claim about chuubanite, i would like the time to get my explanation ready before someone else give's theirs and everyone says "lets archive it immediately so it's over" but it will take time to think of and write down everything, most of the more specific stuff might not occur to me while i am writing it, and i am busy right now. if you guys decide absolutely to do it, please give me time, maybe some time this week, hopefully? honestly, i would prefer we just leave it all be, but whatever.

>>27430859

>>27430547
>chuubanite isn't nerfed. it has infinite potential that people are squandering because of "too complex, hed hurt" and stubborn ignorance. if you were clever, chuubanite could easily outclass technology, but you guys don't for some reason. why?

that is a blatant lie, because the moment someoen would come up with a powerful use of chuubanite it would immeaditly get shot down with "no, magic is not allowed to be better than technology"

the very moment i came up with the idea to use retro chuubanite to outfit a battle blimp thats actually supposed to be sturdy and not just some hot weather balloon the first thign that greeted me was "yeah but its shit because we can actually shoot it down with our railguns in one shot form several kilometres away before you can even scratch anything from us"
and its exactly shit like this and the constant hammering down of "anythign related to magic has to be always worse than the current technology" that i don't even want to truly try and come up with some cool stuff with chuubanite anymore and i just stopped caring anymore

>>27431275
lmao based

>>27431305
Railguns are shit. My response would have been I just built a railway gun that will hit you from 10 km away with Chuubanite

>>27431275
SCIENCE IS MAGIC SCIENCE IS MAGIC! SCIENCE IS MAGIC! SCIENCE IS MAGIC! SCIENCE IS MAGIC! SCIENCE IS MAGIC! SCIENCE IS MAGIC!
>Error: Our system thinks your post is spam.

>>27431483
nta
Maybe the response should not have been only variations of "this is how we are gonan kill your blimp"

>>27431195
https://rentry.org/writhaven is our lore doc if you want to take a look at what our country is like. As the writing general, we have plenty of written exports to offer if you'd like stories about your gods. Otherwise we can just pay for now until more details about our nations get hammered out.

>>27431249
take your time
out of curiosity, which parts of the long chuubanite proposal rentry do you think are canon at the moment? What parts do you think should be kept and what should be thrown out if the system was reworked?

this magic thing is kinda lame

>>27431305
>>27431483
>>27431535
No railguns allowed in /nasa/. Sorry /nasa/. You've been timelooped on this issue. Railguns are banned from the project.

>>27431547
>Stories
Sounds fun! Catch me another time after i work some things out.

>>27431747
The best thing to do imo is ignore it for the most part or come up with one effect for your thread and then just go write. Let the autists hash the details out if they want, but ultimately what they do shouldn't impact the writing the rest of us want to do.

>>27431483
BASED

>>27431483
>>27431535
doesn't matter anymore anyway, the battle blimp at this point is nothing but a joke to myself and i stopped caring for it and any bigger story i wante dto write around it.

fact is, the statement that you can do so much cool shit with chuubanite is a lie because it cannot be allowed to outclass the tech of 1750 and cannot be outside your own nation for prolonged time so it gets reduced to mundane stuff.

ALRIGHT BOYS, LET'S GET TO WRITING. I've got ideas pumping through me, time to jot some shit down. If I manage to get all of the biology stuff done soon, I think I'll drop it into a separate rentry. Just so I can prove I'm actually doing things and not lazing around all the time.

>>27431305
lol, that idea is fucking retarded, and the explanation for why it was dismissed completely missed the point. hot weather balloons are shit. you are asking for a chuubanite that makes hot air balloons viable, hot air balloons are the method, flight is the ability. if you said you wanted chuubanite that makes something float, that could work, but you wanted chuubanite that makes a hot air balloon functional. hers an idea, chuubanite that makes something lighter. if /nasa/ can shift the fabric of space time, you can, too. it will cost a similarly high amount of chuubanite, but that is a simple drawback that can effectively keep it balanced while still giving you more opportunities for future development.
>magic can't be better than technology
when did anyone say that? most of our magic is technically magitec if you think about it, even risuners are using a technology, no matter how primitive it might seem, because we were able to explain how it worked. our magic is special science that adds variety to normal science, but it still works off of normal science when our special science doesn't apply, and that is good.

>>27431747
>>27431916
the whole magic quanta system was made so that an event described in a /risu/ story could work within the system. Chuubanite is not complex to make ti hard to use, its complex because the autists have been trying to find ways to make things work.

>>27431942
Yep. Thats why I refuse to deal with it in my saga. Its worthless to think about that imo with how it is. Albeit I want to know how Railguns and ironclads are suddenly allowed in 1750 tech.

>>27431942
>>27432048
See >>27431838 As of right now. /nasa/ is banned from having railguns.

Laugh at Battleballons all you want, but my Chuubanite Zeppelin will be flying high in the sky giving nice views.

>>27432134
Ill shoot it down with my railgun!

>>27432039
mate, you can't keep asking people to make an effort to understand this shitshow of a magic system and then actively belittle them when they make an assumption or proposal that you dislike or consider retarded

I think the idea that chuubanite loses effectiveness outside a nation's borders is retarded. The decay of the material is fine, as that is supposed to be a very sloe pricess, but having your magic be locked within a certain area is very stupid.

chuubanite re-vote when? >>27409604

>>27432039
I think /omesis/ is applying some sort of flotation-based chuubanite for their balloon cities and no one seemed to have any issues with their proposal.
>>27432048
Ironclads ae an /inf/ thing they wanted and in exchange they said they would be completely isolationist, so they were purely defensive. Then /inf/ immediately stopped being isolationist and tried to colonize /risu/, so I don't know what the deal with that is currently. They were always pretty heavily opposed though, so I guess it's up in the air now that they're gone.

>>27432256
According to the bylaws, you need at least three anon's support to request amendments to proposals that were already voted on. Anyone else in favor of voting on the behavior of chuubanite once >>27431249 makes a write-up?

>>27432363
I think /inf/ was heavily opposed not specifically because of the ironclads, but because they wanted everything. They wanted advanced tech, advanced magic, an entire massive island to themselves, a giant supercanal across /risu/, and many other timeloop inducing things.

>>27432039
ahh yes a blimp that can be used as a flying battleship is of course an absolute retarded idea but demigod child based space engines are of course absolutly the most logical thing in the world

>>27432611
That idea was ultimately rejected.

>>27432773
that idea that was rejected was that the starchild was about to be turned into some weird fetish thing with some crippled girl with baby mentality.

>>27432048
that's why you refuse to learn about it*
i am not a schizo, and i really do want to respect you more, especially since you are entertaining for the most part, but the indesputable fact that what you are doing here is willful ignorance makes it really hard for me to take anything you say on the matter of our magic system seriously, mr "divine intervention" self-inflicted simpleton.
>>27432229
this has nothing to do with the magic system, i said that as long as he is flexible with the method, anything is possible, but he said he wanted chuubanite that would let him fly-with a hot air balloon that is viable as an option. think of it like this. if i said i could fly, maybe you might think i was refering to flying in an airplane, or with one of those gliding suits, but if i said i could fly with absolutely no external assistance, even without any word-play or genetic manipulation in the future or present, absolutely no assistance, a normal human, floating in the air, you'd think i were crazy, and with good reason.
the method is important. chuubanite can assist you in flight, but once you're flying, you'd need to explain what you do in the air and how it works. a hot air balloon has a lot of problems, it's a terrible idea that is outclassed by every other functional counterpart, but if you found something that connects them all, and made your chuubanite solve all of them by addressing that connection, that would be a clever use of chuubanite, but you have to be clever enough to see that connection. just because you aren't doesn't mean the magic system is bad. it's the classic case of "git gud or git filtered scrub".
>>27432611
it's retarded because we know enough about how it works to know it can't work. the purpose of the chuubanite is to make it less retarded, but it does so poorly. the starchild at least could make sense, whether or not it does depends on the technology they have over at /nasa/. sci-fi gives a bunch of theoretical explanations for random ideas, look at them if you want an explanation for any of the stuff they do, though they probably should pick one themselves to make sure everything works.

No space gods, no gravity wells, no rail guns, no machine guns. Get fucking timelooped /nasa/!

>>27432974
Only for saving the starchild. It doesn't matter now. The warp drive is destroyed. Cunt who wrote that never wanted it saved.

>>27433018
The problem is that the explanation to explain how the starchild worked required a book to read. And because of that the idea is dropped. Better to explain the broken warp drive as a secret nobody is allowed to know.

>>27433384
how the starchild worked wasn't too complicated to my knowledge, but then the rep started turning it into fetish material and adding a bunch of stuff around it unrelated to the specific question of how it works. am i misremembering, or no?

>>27433018
>i am not a schizo, and i really do want to respect you more

you are the by far most respectless person in this whole thread by a landslide. so much so that even people that agreed on your points have stated before that they do not want to agree with you.

this is also a point why none of the chuubanite talks ever get anywhere, because people get sick and tired of talking with you

you are not arguing for anything but yourself either, pretty much everyone here wants the chuubanite system redone and you are jsut sitting there "noo the sytem is perfect you are all just too stupid to understand it and how to properly use it and its infinite uses and if you DO have ideas they are retarded and make no sense."

and to make my stands clear, here is the second vote to amend the chuubanite system in its entirely >>27409604

>>27433507
I dropped the infantization fetish shit and I reduced the injury to a crippled leg. However the starchild was not my idea. It belonged to someone else and I had no write to expand upon it as much as I did. The other Sanalite wanted to kill it. That's why I chose to kill it in the end.

>>27432256
I support.

>>27432256
Can the vote happen next weekend?

>>27432256
i support a complete overhaul, because whatever we have now seems to fucking suck

>>27432256
replying here too just so all supports are in one place to see

>>27434385
should be fine, after all it is such an easy system to understand that 5 days should be plenty of time to write a basic explanation that even retards will understand

>>27433018
>Self-Inflicted Simpleton
Nice of you to say I am entertaining and all of that but its hard for me to even care what you even have to say or think about anything when you are the most disrespectful poster here. You arent a schizo. Youre a cretin who has his own head up his own ass so far that he thinks his words are infallible and that me bending lore for story devices is more infeasible than some bullshit you made up.

I treat everyone with respect here because I respect the work they put in and the criticism i received. The lone exception is you, who has shown not only me, but everyone who you talk to zero respect.

>>27432256
Also throwing in my support. It kind of seems like everyone has problems with the current system, including paragraphsanon who's the most autistic about it. There's no reason to keep a system nobody likes.

>>27432363
>>27432606
Thats all i wanted to know about Ironclads. Thanks!

>>27409604
Ohh, a new chuubanite timeloop? It's been a while, how nostalgic. I'm gonna start compiling the votes for the current votebon the /2434/ map and on the mikeneko rename.
Based on the votes I've seen, I reckon 1. Has a majority of Abstains, meaning we'll revote on it, this time probably using the new map the nijis are coming up with, and the mikeneko rename meets the threshold to pass.

jesus fuck i just got home. magic gems go brrrr EZ Clap and each one has different magical effects.

>>27434724
Can we vote next week?

Why cant we just have fun together bros… :(

>>27434757
Anchor vote proposals and they'll be voted on next time an anon is kind enough to run the vote. I'm off the grid next week, so I can't do it.

>>27434836
NO FUN ALLOWED

I'm thinking. Should chuubanite will be buffed to be allowed to do more fantastic things? By something fantastic I mean something anime at least.

>>27435106
Elaborate please..

I WILL MAKE DIAMONDS SHOOT OUT CRYSTALS OF DEATH

>>27435158
WE NEED TO TRADE!!! NIJISANJI WANTS A TRADE PORT ON RISU AND WE WILL GIVE YOU NUTS

>>27435394
Ah yes last time i saw this i was at work taking a shit. you have nuts you say? please tell us more about deez nuts. What kind are they?

Good night faggots!

>>27435156
Chuubanite should be able to pull off a magic effect based on the complexity of the circuit. Circuits are instructions that tell chuubanite where to direct its energy. So for example: if you want to design a pair of chuubanite boots that make you jump 10 feet into the air and land safely without breaking your bones you can. You just need to create a wire of chuubanite in the boots' cloth or leather to tell the boot to shoot energy when jumping and absorb energy when landing. You can even charge up the boots' jump power by walking or even landing. To activate the boots to super-jump you kick your heels on both feet.

That's how I would use chuubanite: as equipment to let you pull off anime feats.

>>27435712
Hey that's just the boots from Soukyuu no Ariadne

>>27435552
well whats not to like, we got chestnuts, coconuts, pécans, arachides. We also will help you develop ships for longterm friendship!!!!!!!! We are one of the best in the world!!

>>27435394
if thsi goes through i would presume you are also to the right side of the trade route yes?

if so you could have your port office next to /vrt/ and then we could have each set up a place we can order stuff from each other, we are already bringin in a ton of goods due to the trade alliance so if you order stuff it would be no issue to have that delivered there as well

>>27435757
>checks the map
will you be arriving on the right or left side? We will give you directions from there.

>>27435757
Unless your goal is to accelerate maritime tech worldwide, you might want to be a little more guarded about offering to hand out those boats to every single person you trade with.

What if we repurpose chuubanite as a physical form of mana that magic imbued lifeforms can create, and have the magic lifeforms themselves be the source of magic, rather than a naturally occurring mineral.
We could have it so that people and other lifeforms are capable of using magic themed around their chuuba or thread concept, so that way magic isn't restricted to physical objects.
More tech focused nations would have few magic using individuals, while nature havens like /risu/ and /uuu/ would have populations with potentially all magic users, along with the plants and animals potentially being magical as well.
Naturally we'd have to make sure magical individuals aren't too powerful, so we probably don't want people shooting lasers (Or mayber we do?).

Anyway, my main desire is for magic to not come from rocks, but instead actual lifeforms. Magical rocks would still exist, but they'd instead be made by magic lifeforms, and not mined from the ground.

>>27435761
Lets do it. We need a eastern trade league. I do not know why i am so excited but this reminds me of old games that i played when i was a little girl.

>>27435819
Right.
>>27435824
You may be right. I need to think….

>>27435842
I thought the whole point of tying magic to rocks was that we didn't want magic to be something that only specific people could access

>>27435824
>accelerate
Thats their way

>>27436010
Wouldn't magic rocks have the same issue, being that only the elite of a nation would have access to it?

>>27435909
If you check our map there will be a city called Kenkerto. You can join /vrt/ there.

>>27435748
Maybe? That's just an example I thought of. With more complicated circuits and more chuubanite you can make Robosans.

>>27436038
If nijiboys anon can come up with reasons his cyborg society from the future isn't accelerating tech I expect the rest of the nijis to be able to manage their non-scifi societies

>>27436105
Sounds good! But let me think ships over. Maybe we will help but i want something really good…

>>27436217
we have only pinisi kek

>>27436256
I dont know what that is? We can teach you how to build a lot of them. Why am i doing this? To cause chaos!

Question for Hoomans: Would they like to have body armor that has a kinetic shield that can stop even a blunderbuss shot?

>>27436342
pinisi is a boat. IRL its a luxury yacht but because risu and holoID built one in minecraft i thought it would be the risuner boat. pic related for pinisi

>>27436384
Hmm looks nice. What if we built you a frigate as a gift?

>>27436347
The Ned Kelly corps will be made.

>>27436085
It's meant to balance nations, not individual people. No nation would have access to powers other nations couldn't theoretically also have. Your proposal does the opposite of that, powers are now tied explicitly to being from a certain nation.

>>27436539
Is that not how it already is with specific kinds of chuubanite only working in specific nations?

>>27436452
HOLY SHIT THAT SOUNDS POG!

>>27436347
Grenadiers wear half breastplates but those are mostly for blocking melee weapons of the enemy and some pistol shots. I don't want to make it too powerful both due to the weight and material cost. Crurassiers have full breastplates though and those can block a couple of musket balls before it fails.

>>27436169
Please don't use me as an excuse to shit on other people.

>>27436606
You deserve it! We will build it and deliver it to you, and train you in how to use it.

>>27433582
as far as the guy you are referring to goes, he disagreed with my attitude, even though he admitted he couldn't disagree with anything i said. an irrational response lacking any reason whatsoever, undeserving of consideration, let alone respect. if you disagree with me on anything, consider being civilized and using reason to disagree with me, or remain in the cesspool with the rest of your monkey brethren, you feckless ape. see, that's what it looks like when i am disrespectful, please refrain from doing things that would make me respond like that.
>>27434549
character flaws are interesting, especially when the character is able to surpass them, and achieve greatness despite their limitations. it is a tragic character that succumbs to their flaws and remains the lesser for it. you say i am the most disrespectful poster here, i suppose you discount your schizos who chase you around trying to ruin everything you hold dear just because they constantly misunderstand your blunt nature. i suppose you would seek to ruin what i hold dear as well for the same reason.
every criticism you are given, you respond with your admittedly formidable knowledge on military strategy. they cannot fight you on your grounds, lest their egos be shattered, so some of the pettier ones attack you personally, interpreting your knowledge and skill as you being an arrogant asshole who thinks too highly of himself and his vision to let others have a say in it, when in truth you are just responding to the way you know things should be according to the knowledge that they won't even try to refute.
please refute anything i have said thus far, else it would seem more likely to me that your criticism of me, which i figure is wholly based on the fool i responded to above, is yet another example of willful ignorance, combined now with, perhaps, a touch of hypocrisy. we are very much the same in the regards you choose to criticize me in, but here, unlike me i would imagine, you step into my criticisms, exemplifying the criticisms i gave to you instead of choosing to make an exception of them and be the better for it. please prove anything i have said here wrong.
there is a saying that goes something like "it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt" or something like that. that's all i asked of you, and you couldn't do that. even when i called you out for it, you still couldn't do that. who's the cretin here, again? can you at least do it this time? i wonder. if you think i am disrespectful, then fine, but you are someone i admire, why do i have to feel like i'm looking down on someone i would have otherwise admired? just stop involving yourself in things you have no intention to educate yourself on. please.

>>27436816
shut up and right nigger.

>>27436505
I was thinking of a way to use chuubanite's basic kinetic energy properties in stopping projectiles. It would work similar to Mass Effect's shields. The armor would automatically target incoming projectiles and create a kinetic burst to stop the bullet. The armor can also stop a full shotgun blast but it takes a lot of energy. Chuubanite in shielded armor can be recharged simply by moving around or rattling the main circuit.

The armor does have weaknesses. The circuits are very basic. They can only stop one bullet incoming every six seconds or so. Also if you're shot by multiple shooters you're kinda fucked anyway. Also it takes a while for the armor to recharge energy. The armor could block one blunderbuss shot and run out of energy. So its not invincible. That said in an age of slow reloading firearms this is still an advantage. There are multi-chamber guns you have to worry about, but those are expensive and only usually used by the top brass.

>>27436886
i am right, nigger.

>>27436934
you are so focused on a faggot who literally said he doesnt care what you have to say and fucked off to bed. Write some lore and stop shitting up the thread.

>>27436816
>if you disagree with me on anything, consider being civilized and using reason
You don't even do that yourself. You're incredibly rude to absolutely everyone including nijiboys anon who is possibly one of the only people in this thread who actually likes you, and then you wonder why people are constantly rude back. Either learn to have civilized conversations or shut up and write

Good night!!!! If i am still negotiating with you, lets continue tomorrow friends. I am starting to love you all!!!!

>>27436900
One more thing I forgot to mention. The circuits can be woven into leather or cloth. Meaning this would be an extra layer of protection to standard uniforms. Cloth and leather are cheaper to produce than metal. So the shields would be useful with mobile units that need to run across the battlefield. The less weight the better.

>>27437115
I JUST asked not to be dragged into your slap fights. I am only here to write mongolian basketweaving fanfic, thanks.

>>27436816
mate, after being the first one to call people stupid and retards it is a little late to now pretend like you are the only civilised person and everyone else is the shitflinger

but thanks for the kek anyway

The pregnancy kindred have been really spreading strong and have been acting more cult like recently.

>>27436900
>>27437185
From what I am reading, it's somewhat like reactive armor, right? I'll get back to you after the stream's over then.

>>27436900
But that burst is "dumb", right? Then said burst can potentially hurt the user or any friendlies as well. There's a reason not every vehicle has active hard-kill protection and it's not just because of the cost. Shotguns are also not as powerful as you think. They are small pellets that don't carry much energy.

alright giving it some thought here is a potential proposal that is still somewhat resembling the old system as to not have every nation needing to fully throw away what they had so far if they don't want to:

Alright here is my proposal for a new Chuubanite system:

Chuubanite is a magical mineral that can be mined in every nation that works as magical "fuel".
Magicians can either through incarnations(verbal, somatic ect) or through magic circles invoke the energy within this ore for magical effects.
For example:
Risuners could use this Chuubanite together with gems to continue having their witches cast gemmagic.
vrt can have craftsman that can invoke enhancement magic on items to strenghen the effects of them in one way or another based on emotional attachment of peopel in the item.
Meatheads can have Fleshscribes that can use Chuubanite based ink to create magic circles in the form of tattoos that can enhance their natural healing.

these are examples based on old uses of Chuubanites, but unlike before it is not some innate characteristic of the Chuubanite that dictates the effect but the knowledge of the caster. This would for example allow a nation to develop more than one use of Chuubanite overall as well as evolution of magic based on understanding and experimentation of a nations magicians.

It would also allow a more freely use of magic that can more strongly differ from the general usage of magic of a nation.
For example: Risuners could use it in alchemy to brew potions that enhances a person's stamina. even if that got nothing to do with gemmagic.

Chuubanite would still degrade over time but this would be simply based on Chuubanite being exposed from the spots they naturally gather and happen at the sam erate regardless where in the world it is being brought. It would also degrade at an accelerated rate when actively used.
For example: Someone using Chuubanite to invoke a Fireball to throw might instantly deplete a handpalm sized piece of Chuubanite making it useless for magic from thereone.
while found all over the world in each nation it is still rare enough to not be in abundance and just be readily available to use in a near infinite manner and should instead still be considered something special.

While this might be similar to the old way of Chuubanite i feel the changes make its explanation to new people as well as its usage overall more easy and streamlined as well as actually opening it up for usage in more fantastical ways without having to worry if the usage of it is "the correct method" for the desired effect.

just wanted to check this first if you guys got any ideas for improving upon it or if you are strictly against it

>>27437275
Hello Kindredsis(? I'm assuming you're the Kindred who's been working on worldbuilding with me anyway), you picked a bad time to drop in as we seem to be in the middle of a timeloop, but I did see the talk about the pregnancy cult over on /luxnoc/! Were you planning to write up a piece incorporating the main pregnancy Kindred's talk of different colored clothing to signify rank in the cult?

>>27437021
if he went to bed, he'll wake up. if he truly didn't care, he wouldn't have said anything about it. if come tomorrow he fails to respond, he would have achieved nothing but further disappointing me. this conversation will find a resolution eventually.
>>27437197
if you ever mistook my responses to you as me intending to be rude, i apologize. that was never my intention, and i think you're a swell guy. i enjoy every conversation we have, even the ones that get heated, and i hope we can continue to have those discussions in the future, even the heated ones. those are actually some of my favorites, desu. i won't bother you anymore if you don't want me to, but i do enjoy it when you are here.

im fine with gem magic and i did at one point very briefly talk about potions. IT fits the theme super well and honestly would probably be used a lot.

>>27437328
I think so. It might be something stupid but I want to work out something with Hoomans.

>>27437364
The armor would be at its best with individual guerilla units rather than lockstep formations. You still want armor or cover.

>>27437365
Would natural chuubanite found in plants and the animals that eat them still apply?

Been busy today, but here's the word cloud for last thread.

A new challenger approaches! Will WAR anon get dethroned or will chuubanite autsim take the day? Find out next thread on /vtwbg/!

>>27431838
No. Suck my 13 inch space aussie shlong.

>>27437686
>/rose/ able trade /meat/, SEX
nice

>>27437442
It's fine, I haven't been bothered by any of our interactions. You can come off as rude but I know you don't mean to be a bitch, I wouldn't be on 4chan if I took every insult personally. So long as nothing devolves to pure name calling and logical points are brought up, I would consider things debates and not arguments. That being said, surely you see why some anons are put off by how quick you are to call everyone a retard at the slightest bit of miscommunication?

It sure was nice of paragraphsanon to take the heat off of pomerlaneanon for a thread.

>>27437396
I wasn’t the one that was writing with you today, I have popped in here before though. I have been too busy to write anything long recently

>>27438062
Nobody has been writing with me today, I'm pretty sure you're the only Kindred who actually posts in here.

>>27437663
that should still be applieable, in theorie you could even have certain hotspots that gather into crystals out in the open or where you could store a Chuubanite based tool to have it recharge over time.

A magical Rod that the Risuner witches use to bless their forest once a year and then afterwards they put it back into its palce to have it recharge for the coming year

this could also be used to have a floating island for a city where the core of the island is a large chunk of Chuubanite that has been invoked to float there and that spot gathers just enough magical energy to have it recharge at the right rate to not deplete but if the island would be tried to move away via some propelling method it would deplete and come crushing down.

>>27438080
I meant in the luxnoc thread, sorry I’m extremely tired

>>27438121
charged with nuts

>>27438165
Ah! Yes, I'm aware that was the main pregnancy poster. I have no idea how she writes so much but some of her ideas are fascinating worldbuilding material.

>>27437755
If I HAVE to nerf railguns then it would be energy cost. The crash fucked up the wiring to the railguns. Which means they cost more energy to fire than they should. Could have the lights flicker every time the railgun is shot. Making it a last minute resort.

>>27437365
I like this a lot more than the way chuubanite currently works, it gives way more creative freedom.

>>27438331
>Could have the lights flicker every time the railgun is shot

oh no what a nerf, whatever will /nasa/ do to get through this immense struggle they have burdened themselves with

>>27438271
I don’t know how either, she is very talented at writing fanfics! She inspired me to start writing again!

>>27438494
If the lights flicker then there's a power fluctuation throughout the station that can and will damage electronics, including targeting computers. Meaning after the first or second shot the targeting systems will go offline.

>>27438633
NTA but you're telling me your spacefaring civilization never figured out surge protectors?

>>27437365
it reminds me of the old rocks proposal, but with a bigger emphasis on magic and ritual instead of technical ability, it's cool.

Aight, here are my 2 cents on the matter of Chuubanite, and the rules I have been currently following myself for my writing.

>Chuubanite
Is rock.
Found basically everywhere.
In it's natural, raw state, it basically just stores energy, like heat or kinetic energy.
Has a unique reaction when exposed to sentient beings AKA us.

>You sexy bitches
Are meat.
Have something akin to a soul.
This soul is a little pipeline connecting you to the "higher plane" AKA where the Chuubas reside.
Through this pipeline, raw "Chuubanite energy" constantly flows.
With your belief into a Chuuba, this raw substance gains an allegiance to it, making it do weird magicky shit.
This effect is extremely small, affecting just your meat suit, but can be amplified to affect the space around you with Chuubanite the rock.

>So we end up with
Simple raw chuubanite that can be used for special lifeforms aside from us.
A person can always use the chuubanite of a select Chuuba, since only belief in that specific chuuba is required to allign the energy. Attaining enough belief to actually do something is the main hurdle though.
No need for weird, and retarded, weakening of chuubanite when you cross your borders, since you carry the main component with you at all times.
Idk, some other things probably, but I just woke up and my brain is still a littel fucked up, I need to get a cup of tea in me.

>>27438633
or you could simply not have them because the thread decided to not allow superweapons

>>27438665
What part of damaged in the crash do you not understand?

>>27438331
You will not nerf anything. See >>27437755 to anyone saying otherwise.

>>27438794
That decision is unfortunately not mine to make.

>>27437365
>as well as actually opening it up for usage in more fantastical ways
Is this something we actually want though? The reason the current system is so limiting is because we didn't want to descend into a magical arms race. I think it's better to just give each thread a unique effect and roll with it rather than give them a chance to pull something out of their ass whenever they want.

The fuck is going on? Did you guys go back to chuubanite shit? Man...

>>27438962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFtcLJVN8yg