/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

OP here, please ignore schizos, tribalists, and dramafags. Goddamnit, we haven't even reached 100 replies last thread. Do remember to limit yourself from talking too much about non-ID VTubers. Have a nice Sunday.

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA.

Ooooooo 4chan gods, i pray to thou. Please let the catalog be free from any vshojo bait so we can hit bump limit this time.

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA, AMEN.

>>27360501
Amen!

kek this board is too fast, sorry anon i tried to save warkop but my post is too long to write and this thread got archived before i finish it. this thread goes from page 1 to page 12 in just 30 minutes, is this vt new record? i believe its not that fast back when rushia yabe happen

>>27363380
That's why you write bump instead of a paragraph. What were you writing, anyway?

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>Also if you got chants, please (You) this post and I'll add them below
>Jedag Jedug Vtuber Toxic
https://youtu.be/cyMUSpLV32E
>Kobo Tempest introduction
https://youtu.be/c5xn9idw4wg
>Early Moona songs
https://youtu.be/N_1xVr7wp6Q
https://youtu.be/4-wpqxD7Az8
>Kobo Edgelord
https://youtu.be/YDBLs_0SnPQ
>Nia Cicak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCi0cxSSqvk
>Rachie ID cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV-3ETmEIBI
>Kobo tiktok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivvxuHWWdiU
>holoslebew
https://twitter.com/moonahoshinova/status/1541268844429582337

>>27364653
I forgot my pic fucking hell, I guess I'll just use this instead since we got a Rachie chant so apparently joined a corpo-ish(?) Diadem rn, so she's the 2nd ID vtuber to join an EN corpo after Hanabi in tsun, that looks interesting but what do you guys think of IDs joining EN corpos?

>>27363380
That's normal for /vt/ especially around WIB midnight but holy fuck this board still seething hard over that news even rn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9fISvKNY4s

Windah playing holocure rn

>>27367525
There's no holoID chuuba in it, so it won't help the holoID to incline

>>27365020
Don't care

>>27365020
Mika 2.0

>>27365020
The only notable EN corpo is Hololive, Nijisanji, and Vshojo. All the others is just the same "corpo-ish" founded by weebs circle AFAIK, so more or less the same as Yume, Re:Memories, etc. Alterly is more interesting to me since they have a professional backers.

>>27302608
I hate that fucker Ghifari so very much. Shitting on those who's using SC is not the way to give a push to others to use SB and/or SL. Even worse with the usage of "we" on that, implying other ID fans are always have the same opinions as this fucker. Fucking idiot.
>>27299005
Is it pragmatic, or is it realist? I mean this is the same M-chan that are projecting Moona to have about 200k subs in 6 years or something.
>>27367578
Probably will not be directly, no. But it will serve as a way to make the Hololive brand in general more known to his audience. Especially since if he got a good playthrough, and the fact that the fangame is free too would get people interested to try it out. The only other thing that's sadly not available to buff it up for general ID audience is a mobile release in playstore.

>>27368425
Oh yea.. I also know that spoiler guy, yeah he always uses "we" even though his views are sometimes literally different from the rest of fans

>>27368425
Can you give a few examples of this G guy talking about SC?

>>27368425
>I hate that fucker
Well, tbf he was replying to a retard. That Urso guy is a fucking self-hating asshole. "that's why they always concern when there's ID fans send donation more that 10 bucks". 10 bucks is just fucking 140k IDR, maybe he's poor but not everyone is that fucking poor. I never seen anyone worried if someone send 150k SB.
>Shitting on those who's using SC
It was kinda unnecassary, yeah.

>>27368834
Eh, everyones use "we" or any other types of wording like that. I don't really mind, only a retard thinks his views (or anyone's views) portayed all of the fans. I'm neutral on him, i personally like him a bit since he's one of the very few who dares to go againts the majority of Indonesians there who are extremely selfhating. Obviously both extreme are bad, and he sometimes went overboard and i hate him for that, but atleast he makes r/hololive not an echo chamber like how it used to be.

>>27369451
>>27370171
Fucking hell, I knew it, you guys are from r/indonesiaare you? I'm not surprised tho, both sub have quite a large overlap

>>27370423
I mean, kinda? I'm very rare visiting that sub, only if i'm really bored and have nothing to do since it's the closest feel to Kaskus imo, like once every 4 months or something kek. I dont know what you're suggesting tho.

>>27371055
Nah, I'm just confirming. No hard feelings

>>27369080
There's one from the same post.
https://reddit.com/comments/vn6rqx/comment/iekd9d3
And other from 15 days ago.
https://old.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/vbfqlf/primetime_parasocial_party_weekly_discussion/icpt1yx/
I really don't have a problem with the second one. But the first one that I linked is really not the way to do it.
>>27369451
I dunno what's self-hating about that since from what I know, there's a discussion that's sadly I've not be able to save that talks about the ID's monthly income gap or something. That Urso guy seems to be one of those that tells people to not spend their savings for one moment of fame based on quick look on some of his ID related comments.
>>27370423
https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/hololive
9.17. Interesting.

Anyone remember this Vsinger? I wonder what she's doing now

>>27368425
>this is the same M-chan that are projecting Moona to have about 200k subs in 6 years or something.
How's that relevant?

>>27358491
OP, your thread making reps...

>>27373174
>9.17 indonesia
no wonder why I don't get along with some anons here. Literal redditors on this thread preaching about things.
Do they even watch streams? Seems like it is full of manager wannabes.

>>27374682
>preaching about things.
Like what?

>>27373174
>But the first one that I linked is really not the way to do it.
I mean, if you read the full thread it seems like just two dudes fighting with each other. Idk why you care so much.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/vn6rqx/comment/ie5p0es/
He was replying to a dumb post (probably a driveby bait since he doesn't cares replying to a bunch of people explaining the reason). The G guy was replying very late tho, probably if you don't link it nobody except the guy he replied to would notice. I saw that thread but never saw that G guy post because it was so late.wait a second, how do you found ghifari post then? are you Urso / Maru-senn kek
>>27374682
Hey, not everyones is a clipfag. I mostly lurk there and reply to some question from bule about ID since some bule genuinely curious and sometimes nobody and give a good answer about ID.

>>27363671
i forgot

>>27375958
"sometimes nobody can give a good answer" i mean

I don't have any sympathy towards VTubers (including ID), but I don't hate them either. Like, if some of them somehow got into drama, I don't have any urgency to rush to defend them. Instead, I would just like, "Nah, she'll be fine."

Especially Corpo-IDVTubers, if somehow they got into yabs.
>management ready to back you
>your fellow talents ready to back
>your fanbase will back you no matter how screwed are you

Their mental health will indeed take a quite hit, but they'll not fall so easily. So, I think they'll be OK. You better watch for yourself, especially if you don't have any backup as they did.

>>27376725
So simple right?

>>27373359
You call them Utaite, anon.
>>27374441
Uhh, what's wrong with it?

>>27377689
You forget to fill the subject field

>>27376725
>I don't have any urgency to rush to defend them.
That's actually healthy, anon

>>27376725
It's crazy how streamers/youtubers is basically a field of works where you need to interacts with public, yet you can easily jump into it without experience. No wonder so many of them become menherra, they're not ready.

>>27377904
FUCK
>>27378153
A non-menhera person wouldn't be a VTuber, they will be anything but a VTuber.

>>27375958
>just two dudes fighting with each other. Idk why you care so much.
nta, I feel dejavu
It was a Facebook anon, now a Reddit anon...
Everytime an anon made arguments online, he just cried and vented on /warkop/ about those "elitists", "self-hater", etc I wonder what else is next. While it's a legit concern, most of the time the examples provided here are nothingburgers/mild shit about two(?) people arguing normally.

>>27377228
>>27378015
Yeah. I learned a lot from all of this drama. A certain necromancer drama with her GFE shenanigan is a final straw to me. Since then, I try to distance myself from excessive support. The girl will be fine on their own.

>>27378153
It's more like the entertainment industry in general. It's as if you give up your humanity to become an entertainer.

>>27378723
>most of the time the examples provided are nothingburgers
Its /vt/ catalog culture

When will Kobo get mainstream enough to get HoloID permission to cover ID mainstream song and getting sponsor from big food maker

>OP said please ignore schizo
>Also OP bite my totally obvious Schizo larp copypasta
OP need rape correction

>>27378976
Tomorrow

>>27379065
At least it can make this thread stay afloat while /vt/ is having probably one of the biggest meltdown this year

>>27375958
Sadly I'm not both of them. I'm not even a part of the conversation on that thread there. I just like to lurk both here, there and elsewhere every once in a while but that Ghifari comments sometimes getting on my nerves.
Nice talking to you all though, anons.

>>27378723
Read my spoiler kek. That anon was complaining about a 19 hours old comment from a 4 days old thread. Unless he's a schizo who browse old thread, the only way for him to saw that comment is from notif kek.

>>27379547
I'm not sure that's healthy anon. It's a 4 days old thread.

>>27378891
>It's more like the entertainment industry in general
The mainstram entertainment industry still needs your parents approval if you're underage. Sometimes your parents become your manager. In youtube a literal child can just jump in without supervision.

>>27378976
19 Million subs later

>>27378976
When Anang and all other old guards dead.

>>27365020
i just realized that Hanabi is Indonesian, i love her more now.

>>27381795
My brain somehow read that as Hasanabi and got confused kek.

i just looked at ollie's chat right now and since when her chat majority becoming grey ? even moona who is below her in term of SC is a lot greener
did she disable the membership gift thing ?

>>27380094
Children in the entertainment industry are even worse. I mean, if adults can fuck up in there, what about the children?

I blackpilled about the entertainment industry because of:
>news about local entertainers got arrested because of drugs
>Kpop and Japanese idol problems

The suicide of Sulli and Goo Hara completed my blackpill.

It's as if the entertainment in the modern capitalism context is rotten at the core. Yet, here we are. It's just part of life in contemporary society, especially for urbanites.

>>27382915
today is sunday after all

>>27382915
>2.9k watching
that's your answer anon. she's a sub 2k chuba, sometimes sub 1k even so there's a lot of tourist this time.

>>27379065
Kek

Unironically, I want a VTuber to cover "Everybody Wants To Rule The World". It's just too kino for me. My kind of jam while I witnessed VTuber drama on /vt/ and Twitter.

https://youtu.be/SFU1GeGFpzY

The lyrics, man... Again, just too kino for me.

>All for freedom and for pleasure
>Nothing ever lasts forever
>Everybody wants to rule the world

>>27383345
NTA but what happened to zomfamily? I mean there's no way she doesn't provide more member-only content than Moona who is busy with her thesis rn

>>27385212
idk, i'm not a zomily, but from lurking on /zomg/ looks like she often did some kind of curhat/crying stream there? it gets quite parasocial imo (from both side), and that's definitely filtered people. most people join membership for content.

again, i'm not a zomily so don't quote me. maybe if there's still a zomily /here/ they can answer kek. from what i read most of them are in discord.

>>27363380
theres been times where the /nijiid/ thread got to page 11 in 20, i remember having to post every 20 mins because of the rushia shit.

>>27385569

>curhat stream on membership stream
So, it's Tuesday for Ollie, then. Has been hearing that. Less than 3 bucks (membership price in IDR) for the curhat stream.

>>27385569
I do know some ex zomily who complained about her curhat stream and cancelled their membership lol.

>>27385821
That's an unusual reason to do that

>>27385916
Pretty reasonable to me, he said he paid for extra contents and her curhat streams made him uncomfortable and look what that brought her, a drama because she bleed her heart there and some fucker leaked her membership post to /vt/.

>>27386293
>>27385821
>>27385569
how bad is ollie curhat is? i mean i dont know if any of you anon join any membership, but 70% of vtuber membership content is filled with curhat stream. unless its 100% curhat stream i dont think ollie membership is that bad

>>27386454
That exZomily said she often cried in her curhat streams.

>>27386454
>70% of vtuber membership content is filled with curhat stream
yeah, but from the membership that i joined it's mostly curhat about some stuff in RL / stream plans / project / etc. i assume from what i read on /zomg/ Ollie often conplaim about haters / antis. i'm not a zomily so don't quote me, but if that's true it's kinda annoying imo especially if you disagree with her (like people complaining about too much apex).

>>27386757
i think it's fine to cry, girls frequently do it, but people are watching for your content, not to be your psychiatrist. some watch vtubers to escape reality and be joyful, so it's reasonable for these people to avoid un-joyful streams

>>27387256
>conplaim
how could i mixed that up

>>27386757
>>27387256
So she treat her zomily as very close (IRL) friends instead of just fans/customers. I think that only works if you're a small streamer and not as big as Ollie.

>>27387702
parasocial relationship can go both ways, at least with the case of ollie.

Why is she out of breathe already

>>27379065
Sorry, but only rape me if you are a femanon. Use of strap-on is negotiable.

https://youtu.be/tXce9tjPwtY
Toilet karaoke time in 15 minutes!!

where's /ehe/ reeeeee
t. phoneposter

>>27391566
I'm always wondering why no kobofags would make /ehe/ when she's about to stream but frog ojisan can't make one

>>27389825
According to my bi friend, male is better because real dick can touch your prostate in a better way than a strap on.

>>27392014
>According to my bi friend
TL: according to me

>>27387702
>>27388267
Well that's kinda unusual for a zoomer to act like that especially in Hololive when this kind of behavior usually only can be found on hags chuuba

>>27392744
consider ollie special, then. if you are an attachment junkie, she might be suitable for you.

Damn i really pity Niji ExID here
https://twitter.com/VRchama/status/1543545825145458688?t=SMUuxaCwg5oJhPr_SkV-Gg&s=19

join our local imejboard
62ch.ipv6c.my.id/b

>>27394425
eh, they are still Top 3

>>27394425
2 years of NijiID be like
>all bark no bite

>>27395568
Nah that's either Yume or Re:Memories

so kobo said there are some allowed ID songs but she don't know the lyrics because it's old, so what song? koes plus?

Miti-Elaine Untitled Goose Game collab: https://youtu.be/WaB4X0pCwgY

>>27396051
Ismail Marzuki

>>27396051
Indonesia Raya

>>27396281
Honestly, I rarely found anyone who remembers its full lyric because almost no one bothers to memorize it from its second verse onward

>>27396051
Broery Marantika

>>27396051
Doel Sumbang

>>27396448
Boomerchama, schoolkids nowadays have to sing full Indonesia Raya 3 stanza. Unless your school are bad, most of them atleast know to some extent.

>>27394425
https://twitter.com/pocket_weeb/status/1515973861418094597

>>27395583
>focus on their fanbase with their taste instead of trying to expand to ID normies demographic

You can't say that their content is meh. They're good for me. But, look at them. How did they stagnant while Kobo goes to the moon?

I get it that dealing with normies is exhausting, especially if your circle before becoming VTuber doesn't revolve around them (ask Miti about this). But, you can only do so much with your fanbase.

Now, what's their goal? They're as good as dead if they don't have one.

>>27396448
second and third stanza is kino tho, it's so beautiful I nearly cried everytime I hear it.

>>27398246
The lyrics is amazing, you understand the ryhme that you can't see just from 1st stanza.

Looks like RAN gives permission to sing their songs, based.
>>27396448
We have to sing Indonesia Raya full 3 stanza in school every morning. Unless they for some reason change it again since it has been some years since i graduated from Highschool. Most of my friends and I know the full lyrics (well, maybe 1-2 mistake).

>>27398041
>dealing with normies is exhausting
not really if you don't take them seriously like Kobo. That's one of her strong point. The problem with ID vtubers before her is that they always take what those assholes said to the heart and proceed to lecture them or make lengthy statements and things like that.
They could've ignored them or mocking them back like what Kobo did. Kobo is indeed a natural born entertainer.

>>27396918
>>27398483
Wait really? That's good to hear since its 2nd and 3rd are really kino imho

>>27398483
I think because Mori Calliope had contract with Universal Music. It's easier for them to sing Universal Music songs

Will VShojo open an ID branch?

>>27399893
>Will VShojo open an ID branch?
yes yes yes

>>27400175
They will hire Miti & Mine

>>27398638
She's unique ofc but honestly I'm conflicted is her success a Kobo one or a holo one? Past threads had argued that if she debuted elsewhere she'd hardly reach her holonumbers rn

>>27399893
who gonna be in it? Lola Zieta?

>>27400556
It's both of course. The holodebut buff helped her at the start and then she maintain and explode with her personality and normalfag buff.

This is still bugging me

Why Nijisanji ID flop in 2022???

They had Jerome fucking Polin make 1 video about Nijisanji HQ & Met some of them in video in september 2021

https://youtu.be/2UTwzLCQ4g0

>>27400553
>>27400566
vshojo = whore container , let them burn in there lmao

>>27400909
Yeah if you think about it outside of holo most of ID favours individuals than brands, that might explain how many recent breakthroughs in ID are from indies, or if they're from corpos they don't really spread equally to all talents

>>27401398
not normies friendly & bad talent managers (just like in the rrats)

>>27397647
the most defeatist brand on ID, no wonder even their staffs called them DOA

>>27401398
Some anon in /here/ said that their jokes is too "insider" and new viewers basically have no idea about what they were talking.
I mean holy fuck, about 10+ members of NijiID and none of them is a numberfag? I actually respect Mika's more than other NijiID chuuba. Yes, she is a leech, but at least she's trying to improve her numbers and became relevant enough.

>>27401446
If Vshojo ID operates like Vshojo EN then they're going to need a lot of cash to shut the preman up or they risk to be raided like Holywings and closed shut by politicians trying to attract voters by being a champion of morals.

>>27403320
The effects will be catastrophic and will definitely affect other ID vtubers.

>>27403234
It's true about their jokes are too inside for any new fans to understand, at least according to my own experience. I tried to check on them around wave 5's debut and I had no idea about most of their jokes.
Luckily I had a lot of freetime back then and spent it checking clips and previous streams to get the general idea of their jokes.
And after that overall I found that their collabs are kino, once you understand their inside jokes, better than any ID agencies, but individually they're pretty weak.

>>27403320
But they're twitch based, none of the non-metropolitan locals would switch to twitch because their player sucks

>>27404065
>but individually they're pretty weak
And I believe that's why they flopped, I always love their togetherness but IDs would prefer a strong solo chuuba like how NijiJP just learned with Salome

>>27400566
Kimi hime will going on stage in next AFAID to announce she will be new member of vshoujoID

>>27401446
If you can accept the truth, Vshojo is basically holoid

>>27404661
Minus tranny

>>27404541
Kek, after her drama with Kobo it would be so spicy if true.
>>27404661
We need Soimah to join Vshojo to assert dominance to bootleg Soimah that they just hire.

I just wanna rant a bit.
Why the fuck holocure dev doesn't even care about ID and other JP? THEY LITERALLY ADDED A FUCKING DEAD MEMBERS AS AN ITEM and just refuses to reference A WHOLE BRANCH in their game.

>>27405069
>Kek, after her drama with Kobo it would be so spicy if true.
qrd?

>>27405559
it's still on demo chill anon

>>27405681
When Windah watches Kobo's karaoke stream, fat titty bitch commented "suara autotune itu, masa beda banget sama suara biasanya". Bear in mind that she said that on Windah's livestream and she is also a moderator on Windah channel.
>>27405685
I know but for fuck sake, why the fuck do you reference fucking aloe of all people. She just fucking stream for one whole week for fuck sake.

>>27406125
>When Windah watches Kobo's karaoke stream, fat titty bitch commented "suara autotune itu, masa beda banget sama suara biasanya". Bear in mind that she said that on Windah's livestream and she is also a moderator on Windah channel.

eeww typical ethot , making dramas just for content

>>27406367
Can't really blame her, drama sells

>>27405559
Typical EOPs dev. They still thinks that ID is insignificant branch.

To be fair, outside of /vt/, the success story of Kobo and her big numbers are almost unheard of in any other English websites. If EOPs EN fans never visited here, then they will know almost nothing that Holo ID is bigger than ever and keeps growing, mogging most of Holo EN.

>>27406367
She paid a lot for her titty surgery for her to gain success and popularity while whoring herself.
Then this kid coming out of nowhere and suddenly getting more popular than her. It's definitely frustrating for her.

>>27406465
Then again most ID3 EOPs aren't Kobofags after all, you can visit anywhere else on /vt/ and you'd know that if you post Kobopic, you'll out yourself as an indog

>>27406465
Yeah, this is unironically the best "westen" place to talk about Kobo.
>>27407049
At least we have frog pedo, nigger from Montreal, and LATAM bros in /ehe/. Kobo is truly the Unity in Diversity chuuba

>>27407277
That is cool to know

https://twitter.com/HarmoniaProject
A small company just revealed their new gen chuuba

So Hyona has been hyping for this very stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTRalDDomFU
Which I did watched and while I like it, it creeps the shit outta me and I'm sure knowing ID's tastes I'm not the only one who thinks that she's debuffing herself stream wise?

>>27409663
wth is this ? words words and words can i have my 5 minutes back please

>>27409663
>>27410864
its lore, hyon is a writer at heart so of course her lore is cryptic shit, nothing really new for nijiid

>>27410864
I've told you it's a debuff, why Niji never understands that local viewers don't ask much from their chuubas, yet they never get it, with the right momentum you can incline bit by bit with local pandering yet Nijis keep shooting themselves in their foot

kek, turns out this faggot is indonesian after all

for fucks sake remember you subject so my filter catches this garbage

>>27409390
Despite being a small agency, their social media reactions are actually quite decent.
If only I have the time to check on smaller vtubers.

What is the chance of smaller agencies like this to come out on top anyway?

>>27411244
I remember Joooms or whoever is that guy who interviewed Kson. When he interview Andi and Zen, he said that there's this invisible barrier between vtubers and ordinary streamers, but he can't really explain it. I think I know what is it.

Top fleshtubers and streamers are always trying their best to analyze the market and tailor their contents to the market's liking, while most ID vtubers that I know seems to do whatever it is that they think is fun, without any regards to what the market wants.
That creates some kind of barrier, where fleshtubers will have similar contents and thus make it easier to do collabs and stuff, but vtubers will stay in their own bubble because they are already content with the things that they do, thinking that having 200 viewers and fewer than 500k subs is enough because they're a vtuber, they're not supposed to have 10k viewers and 2M subs like fleshtubers.

Top vtubers acts like fleshtubers, Moona always pushing for Minecraft streams for example, because that's what her fans wants (beside it's also her favorite game). And Kobo despite she can do programming, she never does that because she knew that it would be a debuff and prefers to stream Popcap games, which the market wants.

>>27417018
Welp then again most of ID chuubas are still hobbyists so there's no sense that you want to be vtuber to gain bucks unlike those kids who dreamed to be popular fleshtubers

>>27420956
NTA but I think to take a middle ground between the two would be nice whatever you're in for money or hobby

ITT: kikebook refugees

>>27417018
>but vtubers will stay in their own bubble because they are already content with the things that they do, thinking that having 200 viewers and fewer than 500k subs is enough because they're a vtuber, they're not supposed to have 10k viewers and 2M subs like fleshtubers.
You can use it to describe niji if fans, sometimes when I see niji clip, there is a comment saying they prefer watching nijiid because smaller viewers mean it's easier to be noticed by vtuber and make a cricle with other viewers, they also hope that their oshi won't be as big as hololive member so they can keep their fanbase pure from "toxic viewers", so it's not only vtuber itself that didn't want to be big and successful, some vtuber fanbase also like to gatekeeping their oshi from gaining new viewers and look them as a treat to their "circle".

>>27417018
> I think I know what is it.
Next level parasocial grooming.
Female fleshtubers are not popular compared to their male counterparts. We see how it is flipped in the vtubing world. Kobo would not be as popular as she is right now, if she's a fleshtuber.
The fact that top vtubers are female, of course male fleshtubers would not be able to relate to them. The female streamers they know are mostly tomboyish or "whorish" types, while vtubers are cute, "feminine", and they act like anime girls archetypes.
Vtubing is a niche, when Hololive debuted back then people were not as interested as they are right now. They had to groom the market into accepting vtubers. It is not as simple as "play popular games in indonesia, and you will be popular too!" Because if you suck at the game, no matter how many times you spam it, people would not tune in to your streams.
>Moona always pushing for Minecraft streams for example, because that's what her fans wants
Its the pekomoona legacy, but she's also GOOD at minecraft that's why she's the mandor of HoloID.
Hololive is grooming solo streamers with strong core audience, strong enough to buy individual merchs. Popular games are good for baiting new viewers, but it will quickly become stale, unless you are Aqua or Moona. Matsuri is the perfect example of this her audience left her because she's spamming apex but she's not good at it.

>>27405559
Who cares?
I don't want to be labeled a beggar.
Kalo mau ya fans indo bikin game sendiri lah

>>27403320
Are you one of them Holywings white knight? Dude, they are black company who don't give a fuck towards their own employee

Come and watch my hagsmith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOnNctrqcRI

>>27427200
I hate this autist. Out of all holoID gen 3, she is the most unappealing, personality wise.

>>27427845
kill yourself you fucking faggot

>>27406465
>ID is insignificant branch
It is insignificant. They have posted revenue numbers for each branch in the Cover annual report. ID is far and away below EN and JP. Just because you insist on being a village person and denying it makes you look like a fool to everyone. This is why I don't leave central Jakarta. The moment you leave the IQ drops off cliffs.

>>27428159
>They have posted revenue numbers for each branch in the Cover annual report
where?

>>27428159
Ok nijinigger

>>27425458
>The female streamers they know are mostly tomboyish or "whorish" types, while vtubers are cute, "feminine", and they act like anime girls archetypes.
But both Kobo and Miti is tomboyish anon. Even Moona and Ollie too despite them still acts cute sometimes. There are a bunch of post already that said people love Kobo because she's a "brotuber" chuba despite being a girl.

>>27428159
>This is why I don't leave central Jakarta
Nice effort westoids, but next time do your reps properly if you want to falseflag so you don't get exposed immediately

>>27429704
>There are a bunch of post already that said people love Kobo because she's a "brotuber" chuba despite being a girl.

This is literally the reason why she is the most insufferable out of all ID chuuba to me.

>>27428159
What is being lowest in revenue have to do with being included in a free fanmade game? Are you retarded?

>>27430178
>he took the bait

>>27430178
If it makes less money that means it has less exposure to people. It really isn't that hard to figure out.

>>27423530
if people cant get by basic levels of social gatekeeping, stuff every social circle does with any new person, then they probably werent trying hard enough to become a part of the community in the first place, as elitist as that sounds.
becoming part of the any community is mostly proactive after all, you cant just enter a bar and expect the regulars to welcome you in open arms like theyve known you for years, meeting anyone new is scary, especially online.
also tbf the smaller the group, the less access points there are to joining in from, holoIDs size allows for people to not have to directly deal with other fans allow for them to join in with those who are more likely to match them, nijiID very much is limited on the circles and personalities in the fanbase.
basically its the opposite problem of the chuubas and livers themselves,
with holo have a limited amount of talents but creating a lot of access points for the fanbases because theyre not as spread out, while niji has a lot of talents but that creates limited access points because everyones so spread out.

>>27430567
dumb take

>>27430287
Again, what it has to do with being not included in a fanmade game?

>>27430841
>spoonfeed me why popularity low = no being in game

>>27430914
>>27430287
It's FREE retard.

it's a free fanmade game. the only reason why it's EN girls first is because the maker is EN fans. you could have 2 views, but if one of that 2views is a dev then i can guarantee you your unpopular chuba would be in.

>>27430914
ah yes, that must be the reason why there are no holoJP in there, must be because holoJP is unpopular right?


right....??

>>27429704
>Miti is tomboyish
Miti confirmed that she is a tomboy here: https://youtu.be/dWbcxFZkG60?t=1893
>>27405559
>>27406465
The dev is not obliged to add HoloJP and HoloID. Cease the sperging and just hope the devs will feature HoloJP and HoloID in the future. Creating a game takes time, do you want the dev to add everyone without polish?

>>27430914
>Pekora is not in the game, not as reference, or even as next roster gacha therefore she is not popular

>>27428159
Revenue wise it is insignificant compared to EN and JP, but Holo ID still makes some profits because all of them live in Indonesia, it's sad that bocil and nuke on this thread never admit that the people abroad (including Indonesian who work abroad) support Holo ID financially, not them, well at least Cover didn't nuke this branch unlike Anykara hahaha

>>27406465
Should I remind you that this game is completely free and even ad-free? The dev can make anything he want, you don't get to dictate his game, tipikal bocil goblok gratisan, ayo buat game sendiri atau komisi orang buat Holo ID kalau lu mau

>>27431090
>the only reason why it's EN girls first is because the maker is EN fans.
this, plus when youre making fangames or mods, you tend to focus on the things you know first and then add the ones you dont know as much about later after youve gotten a general idea and feeling for the project, so youll know the limitations and have more time to actually get info on the other stuff
>>27431140
>Creating a game takes time
even creating mods takes time if youre solo deving.

>>27431492
This thread is quick to spit and trash on EOP but without them the branch wouldn't exist you are right

>>27431631
Exactly, it takes a lot of time. Even right now, the dev must've been busy smashing bugs and balancing the game. This is for a game with a 10+ characters with dozens of items. If you add more than that, you need to make sure that the new feature will not break the game. So, all of you can stop sperging about popularity, EOP, revenue and shit, it looks dumb.

oh shit, i connected the dots now. the /moon/ schizo is Urso kek. welcome back anon, glad that you took my post seriously and change your wording a little bit this time.

>>27430567
You need to touch some grass and go outside, why the fuck you compare entering vtubing community with entering a fucking bar, have you join any community in real life outside private discord group, try join any sport community, even though they have toxicity between team they really welcoming new fans, movie community I meet randomly on my campus really welcoming when I tried to join their community, heck even kpop community can be very welcoming if you stop picking fights with them. I never seen any sport or kpop fans saying I hate my idol become more successful and popular. It's only happen in vtubing community and unironically anime community. This is why I kinda agree with elite schizo anon, why the fuck you don't want your idol to be successful?

Have a Miti lewd.

>>27432108
>why the fuck you don't want your idol to be successful?
cause they want to chat with their favourite chuba, get parasocial and become "friend".

Have two Miti lewd.

>>27427845
somehow, this autist got into hololive, the biggest chuuba corpo, instead of your indie and/or corpo oshi. how does that feel, anon?

>>27432204
Make sense after seeing zea making stream defending parasocial fans when some en member try to curse them

The schizo is samefagging

>>27432480
Repel them with art.

>>27431909
And those bocil resort to some old posts and false flagging instead of giving a reply lol

I'm Indonesian and I'm not ashamed to say that EOP and TKI financially support Holo ID, you can see their old stream and compare donations lol, it's a mixture of people abroad by their name and donations

This is why most Holo ID speak English, kobo is a special case, but if she gets lower donations later I can assure you she will start to speak English too

>the thread quality turn to shit overnight
what happen?

>>27432427
I feel nothing, only think that it's a waste. Her only gimmick is playing video game autistically, it got boring really fast, not to mention her cold, unlikable personality makes it painful to try to joke and interact with her in chat.

Unlike Kobo who is a talented entertainer and Zeta with her GFE personality, once she no longer got buff from gen 3 debut she will fade into obscurity quickly.

>>27431998
Qrd? Who the fuck is urso? Urso warrior?

>>27432724
>but if she gets lower donations later I can assure you she will start to speak English too
Her momentum is still strong, but you can see some indonesian anons are jealous toward Taiwanese fans

So who is Evelyn? In my socmed echo chamber she's only been promoted by internet comic, Ghozali, Memes, but never her actual stream? Is she a B2B Vtuber?

>>27432842
Ignore the redditards and their tiny "drama"

>>27432824
Wow, you're such a retard who doesn't even watch 3rd gen stream

>>27432764
Indonesian shitposters are bored of Mori's and kson drama and posting here again

>>27432764
/pagi/ happened

>>27432824
go back to /ehe/ fucking faggot, you stink of horse

are schizo samefagging or anon just baiting obvious bait left and right

>>27423530
>You can use it to describe niji if fans, sometimes when I see niji clip, there is a comment saying they prefer watching nijiid because smaller viewers mean it's easier to be noticed by vtuber...

Bla bla bla

Did those guys donate or at least membered to Niji ID? And how big are the pools of their donations? Is it enough at least on UMR level? If the answer is NO, then wtf you should listen to those people?

>>27433094
Such an ez devide et impera

>>27432724
Kobo should just speak more chinese if she want donation she is fluent, she spoken it before. taiwan has a lot of money

>>27433217
i dont understand idiot language , sorry

>>27432824
>Streams more is le bad

>>27432854
Lol I forgot about that, Kobo might start to speak Hokkien or Chinese if she gets starts to get lower ID donations, damn thinking about this she's a jack of all trades

>27432724
>This is why most Holo ID speak English, kobo is a special case, but if she gets lower donations later I can assure you she will start to speak English too
Rumao, this won't happen, I'll eat my fucking balls if this does happen.

>>27432824
She's making as much as Zeta's SC and probably tripled you're oshi lemao.

>>27433464
This happen with every other ID talent so far, you would be surprised if it happen with Kobo too?

>>27432724
Nah, she will speak hokkien more

>>27432764
>the thread speed up around 5 am
Anon woke up and posting random things before doing their business

>>27433249
Honestly, she should do a Chinese/Hokkien only stream and see how many subs/members/donation she get from that particular stream, I kinda want her to steal Vox and NijiCN viewerbase

>>27433518
No? Even reine of all people decided to speak more Indo than before

>>27433595
>I kinda want her to steal Vox and NijiCN viewerbase
go back to the catalog

>>27433621
you dont fucking watch streams holy shit

>>27433595
Shutup zhang

>>27433453
That's a possibility
Since Kobo is a singer she might want more money to make more orisongs.
I hope kobokerz' donos are as strong as ever both local and overseas. I'm not a kobokerz but I'm rooting on you guys, don't lose the superchat war to Taiwanese fans.

>>27433464
Well okay, stop the ID donations to Kobo then, let's see how she quickly changes her language

>>27432842
What did I do?

>>27433166
>Did those guys donate or at least membered to Niji ID? And how big are the pools of their donations? Is it enough at least on UMR level?
Ouch the irony, maybe you should ask this question to the current nijisanji fans first kek

>>27433674
>don't lose the superchat war to Taiwanese fans

anon it was over long before it started, chink have too much moeny

>>27433595
>I kinda want her to steal Vox and NijiCN viewerbase
Anon these are Zhang femcels
You need a Koboy for that

Thread is full of elitist and bule bootlicker faggot.

>>27433621
yea, i lurk to mep sometimes just to see them malding everytime she speak more id than usua

Speaking of sc, here is Kobo's unarchived karaoke stream sc revenue

>>27433151
A Reddit/Facebook whiny anon got exposed and he's trying to falseflag right now

>>27433512
I don't care about numbers, this is just personal observation. Again, I'd assume those SC numbers are just debut buff and will decline quickly with time.

>>27433674
>Using Superchat with 11% ppn when that money can go into sociabuzz instead

>>27433739
We are not losing yet
>>27434012

>>27433848
I mean, you probably will be on kikebook and its telegram derivative if you're looking for Indos that still have dignity. If you're on taiwanese weaving board discussing vtubers, probably either you got blocked from reddit and r/indonesia which are infamous for indo self-hating or just want to shitpost since you got zucc'd.

>>27434012
She pulls tons of sb too, some donate her 1jt

>>27433848
stop using that word anon, it's gonna angry them more.

>>27433861
KEK, same.

>>27434046
>4 months
>debut buff
Retard.

>>27434135
Yeah, whatever faggot. Here's your (You) for today :^)

>>27433848
Then just donate more? If Bule sends $100, you send Rp.5.000.000, if they gift 10 membership, you gift 50. Action speak louder than words. For the elitist, just prove them wrong then

>>27434191
I accept your concession.

>>27433848
And you can't even give him a reply lol, if you lose your argument you gonna spam gabisa bahasa inggris like a retard

>>27434191
LOL

>>27431992
even vampire survivors dev takes a few weeks for updates and hes not doing it for free.
>>27432108
>why the fuck you compare entering vtubing community with entering a fucking bar
because theyre both situations where you go into a place for the first time with pre-existing circles and cultures. the point isnt the bar itself, its just a real life parallel for reference sake, i couldve omitted it being a bar and my point wouldnt be different.
>why the fuck you don't want your idol to be successful?
the answer was already said by others but also people want a home, a comfort zone where they can go to at the end of the day and feel at peace.
however, people wanting something doesnt mean theyre against everything that opposes that want. i prefer the smaller community but im not going to go out of my way to not welcome people in if theyre interested in part taking in the community just because i like a smaller community, if they want to be around thats up to them to decide, not me.
i watch both mika and hana during their growths and i never felt the need to make people feel unwelcome or wishing for the community to shrink outside of going along with hana filtering her audience by debuffing herself but i didnt try pushing people out when she was doing that, i just let the others get filtered.
>>27433166
as one of those anons, i can say ive donated a bunch and membered multiple members.
but i dont agree with pushing people away to keep the community smaller.
my liking of nijiid being smaller then holoid doesnt mean i want them to have to stay small just for our sakes, if they wanna go big, like mika; they can and i will still support them.

>>27434218
>Bule
I don't know why people keep blaming Bule for it, when Taiwanese fans are mostly the one who compete with us

>Muhh reply
>Muhhh argument
>Muh spamming

>>27432764
I sacrifce my ritual to keep this thread alive >>27360501. it's a price we have to pay now.

>>27434345
that guy only watch Moona anon, plz andastan

>>27434218
People already did that on kobo stream though, proff? Just open her superchat archive, I don't even need to bring sb donation anymore to humiliate kobo overseas fans

>>27434218
you do realize a lot of EOP donating make like 1 billion IDR per year right

>>27433674
We're winning anon, watch stream plz

>>27434421
??
Moona have sizable Taiwanese fans too. In fact when brainless kikebook indonesians are quick to cancel moona, her TW fans defended her and threatened the harassers

It makes even more sense now, the moon schizo is Urso the redditor, and if there's one thing that we know from most redditor, they never watch stream kek. no wonder his argument is so wrong and literally not what happen in reality.

>>27434532
we never deserved hololive, that why it a shit show. alternate reality we are like flips and millie with one en that also speaks

Did someone linked this thread somewhere else?

>>27434012
this.
this is the proof that those chink is not important
kobo should stop pandering to those irrelevant chinese people and stop alienating her IDs viewers by speaking chinese.. focus on IDs sc instead

>>27433674
>don't lose the superchat war to Taiwanese fans
don't worry anon, not only that we won the SC war, her SB alone is bigger than her entire SC.

>>27434589
>we

>>27433674
The only one who will win this dono race is Kobo so I support this competition wholeheartedly

>>27433692
sadly that won't happens because a bunch of bocil are willing to gives small donations just to banter with her. and contrary to what some anon think, a small donations is not worthless. kecil kecil lama lama jadi bukit.

>>27434611
you are the same dog Ollie had to yell at

kill yourself

>>27434738
>kecil kecil lama lama jadi bukit.
This is what I said when I see my dick

>>27434611
>>27434742
both of you are retard, stop fighting each other unless you're a samefag

>>27434611
>Kobo
>Alienating her viewers
Roru
Rumao

>>27434421
>only watch Moona
More like... Newfags

I don't know what happen here overnight but I like that one falseflagger anon who scream falseflagger and one schizo who scream schizo. Such a pro move kek

>>27434738
>a bunch of bocil are willing to gives small donations just to banter with her

just call it what it is

attention whoring, same with ars fag. are they telling me you dont have 1jt to donate? they should go to work then not watching vtuber

>>27434775
well, that's a different case anon, but i hope miracle happened kek

>>27434742
>hey, lets falseflagging

>>27434817
Nah, that anon post his membership once

>>27434742
use your brain you dumbfuck, holoID should focused on indonesia market not chinks

>>27434841
>>27434787
>>27434900

people like >>27434611 are elitist IOP

>irrelevant chinese people and stop alienating her IDs

this again is why no one like us

I'm sorry that i decided to sacrifice my prayer just to keep this thread alive. I would go back to my anti schizos ritual next time
t. Humbala Anon

>>27434990
no one cares

>>27434891
No you don't schizo kun

>>27434891
I don't think it's the same anon, lots of people in /warkop/ are moonfags.

>>27434932
don't respond to obvious bait then retard. that anon is a falseflagger since Kobo already sort out her "too much chinks pandering" problem

>>27434932
>this again is why no one like us
why you care so much over EOP opinion? they certainly don't care about your opinion

god this thread is like /#/ but much worse

>>27434467
One person is not enough anon

>>27435018
maybe not, but his argument is always the same, with similar wording.

>>27435053
i'm not falseflagging you retard, she still read those chinks sc and skipped the IDs one

>>27434932
>us
People likes me

>>27434990
Kek better luck next time, anon

>>27435054
because maybe if the idiots filtered out we could be respected like the euros are. why do you like be public enemy number 1 all the time? dont you just want to post peacefully?

>>27432896
epel is an og idtuber, friendly with everyone.
shes busy these days hence why you dont see her stream much.

Shouldn't have made a second thread. Next /warkop/ thread will be /miti/, because God, where the fuck did all of these schizos came from?

>>27435171
she didn't skip it anon, look at her idr SC. most of it are short messages and even blank. she still reads the more unique id sc.

also dont forget her last membership stream.

>>27435187
why do you want to be respected by euros? why they're so important to you?

>>27435187
>respected like the euros
Pffft
Only japanese are "respected" /here/

>>27432469
QRD? Which stream are we talking about here?

>>27435237
>where the fuck did all of these schizos came from?
More like two Schizos and bait biters

>>27435237
Like i said OP, it always happened when i didn't post my ritual. 4chan gods is real.
t. Humbala anon

>>27435187
>Yuropiss
>Respected
Top kek what kind of falseflagging is this?

>27435187
Oh, here comes the falseflagger.

>>27435187
No one who post in 4chan should be respected

will you fags stop replying to shit, just do literally anything other then replying to anyone right now

>>27435269
>>27435347
its called just not getting called slurs in every thread is what i mean by respect

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA

FUCK YOU SCHIZOS AND FUCK YOU FALSEFLAGGERS

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA

>an indonesian unironically became penyepong chinese dick
fucking disgusting, slave mentality

>>27435488
There are tons of it in yt, leddit, and quora

>>27435594
OhGay

Oh boy the inferiority complex and jealousy coming out
Chink, bule, whatever, keep the xenophobia posts coming, tell us how you really feel. I’ll grab my popcorn

>>27435594
Me on the bottom

>>27435641
elitist iop can be culled like pki

>>27435594
nice

Smelly rodent armpits

>>27435099
She got multiple of them anon, kaela top donation also Indonesia and he always use Indonesian on his message. In ID3 only zeta who need financial support from outside iop and it also not yorpis or burger but from Korean, in conclusion pandering to EOP is not a good idea if you are streaming in ID hours, either you pandering to Indonesian, gook or chink if you want to be successful or maybe you can also pander to jop but it's extremely difficult and need Japanese level at least as good as anya

>>27435445
That's because they're not that attracted to vtuber in general. Just look at EU chuuba and most of them are insufferable beyond help

>>27434321
>as one of those anons, i can say ive donated a bunch and membered multiple members.

Good, keep supporting them then

>>but i dont agree with pushing people away to keep the community smaller

Honestly I don't care if people want to gatekeeper their streamers, but the obligation to support the streamers falls on their hands, jangan cuma gatekeep tapi donate/member pun tidak, bahkan pakai adblock/vanced, kan goblok namanya, bocah gak tau diri

Mooneer

>>27435755
>kaela top donation also Indonesia
lol, lemao even

>>27435641
cmon anon, both side are retarded, the "IOP" poor guy is also has an inferiority complex. just be a normal human.

>>27435844
NTA but I bet he's talking about naga, his top gachi

>>27435883
ive watched nearly every kaela stream since debut and naga has not donated as much as people like jimmyboombox or honey or the one korean guy

>>27435844
you need to watch stream to look at naga's sb

>>27435969

>>27435924 (me)
>ive watched nearly every kaela stream since debut

>>27435844
Anon, if you want to look like a retard, at least research properly, that stream is before ID SC enabled

>>27435854
Exactly, why are we comparing who donates more? Just be happy that both Indonesians and Outdonesians are donating. Both sides are retarded for mocking each other.

>>27435641
being obnoxious faggot doesn't make you superior than them

>>27436007
there is no stream sb or otherwise that has gotten that much in idr in a while, kobo unarchive did 6 million that kaela stream is 20. zeta early stream even double that

>>27436083
apparently some kids treat supporting a vtuber like supporting a football team

>>27436005
Naga constantly donate he atleast $100 every stream, there is no one come close to his consistency every ela stream. And don't forget he use sb with only 35% cut compare to superchat with 70% cut

>>27436083
this competition is good for my oshi since both sides are too retarded to understand the psyop behind it and will just donate more to defend their stupid ego and pride so I always flame them up

>>27436175
yeah, i literally do not see that. sure his base dono is 100k but i dont see him doing it 15 times over a stream, maybe 5 or 6

>>27436083
And they said this is Unity thread, but we keep talking about Holo ID, come on admit it all of us only watch Holo ID, outside of Holo ID the chuuba's are boring/uninteresing

>>27436175
Percentages are relative, with SB the cut is closer to 50%

>>27436180
i doubt any big donators are /here/ kek. but yeah, sc wars is definitely beneficial to chuba kek. even Naga participate in Kobo's sc wars in her last member stream kek.

Does anyone ITT remember Bambang?

>>27436359
BASED NAGA. He only donates 500k but his "hmmm" messages trigger a bunch of sultan kek. People trying to beat each other.

>>27436329
>Unity thread
It's a thread where everyone threw and spilled their coffee on each other faces.

>>27436458
I only know Bambang Pamungkas, QRD anon?

>>27436500
Maybe, but you can't deny my statement, most of us here only watch Holo ID, the rest of ID chuuba is boring/uninteresting

>>27436281
Maybe not 15 but her median is not in 100k either, I see him donating 200-500k in every stream especially at the end of stream or when he about to leave kaela stream. Even if he only send $50 every stream there's still no one can be as consistent than him. Sure he can't surpass the total of USD donations alone, but still as single person, no one can outmach his grand total alone

>>27423530
>there is a comment saying they prefer watching nijiid because smaller viewers mean it's easier to be noticed by vtuber and make a cricle with other viewers, they also hope that their oshi won't be as big as hololive member so they can keep their fanbase pure from "toxic viewers", so it's not only vtuber itself that didn't want to be big and successful, some vtuber fanbase also like to gatekeeping their oshi from gaining new viewers and look them as a treat to their "circle".
Sounds alarmingly like Holostars fanbase

>>27436524
Infamous Indo schizo

>>27435305
Reimu vs vox fans happen, almost every en member blaming parasocial fan saying it's bad and tell them get a life for bullying reimu, some chose to stay silent, even vox start getting mad to his fans, zea out of nowhere making a stream expaling parasocial relationship is not a bad thing, vt kneeling to her, vox undoing all of his hate to parasocial fans not so long after that.

>>27436689
I used to watch a lot of ID chuubas before settling down for HoloID and from what I can see either they're too boring and too generic or too busy circle-jerking with their discord groomers and old-timer. I don't blame nor hate them for that but it's just not my cup of tea

>>27436996
Based Jagung

>>27437101 (me)
Meant for 27436667

>>27437101(me)
Meant for >>27436667

It's been so long since we hit bump limit before h-1, thank to schizo I guess? Maybe next time you don't need to make emergency thread op unless we have some serious gossip otherwise we just going back talking about SC, view, elite, bule caper or worse fleshtuber

>>27432824
she's popular overseas, people even asking for someone like her for EN3, you need to browse somewhere other than kikebook

>>27437626
I'd prefer talking about fleshtuber rather than this timeloop SC. At least many of them are trying to make condensed content or more than often actually entertaining.

>>27437626
Yes, I have learnt my lessons. It's truly cursed.

>>27437706
Sana's supposed to be the one until she goes brokeback mountain.

>>27437626
>or worse fleshtuber
damn you elitist AOP

>>27437101
I watch Kanna before her hiatus but quickly switch to Holo ID, love Reine EN and Anya JP zatsudan, love Moona's autism and Karaoke, and also love Kobo Karaoke, Risu is a lazy treerat but a great singer if she sings something

Each of them is unique, unlike Niji or Maha5, tried watching both companies and I feel lost? I can't enjoy the stream but to each of their own I guess

>>27437626
yeah from now on even if the thread is killed early because of the board going fast, dont make another until the next assigned time.

>>27436996
Ah, found the stream. Though, from quick glance, she only discussed the occcurence of parasocial relationship, and not necessarily came to conclusion that it's not a bad things. Did I miss something?

Warkop bros, we're inclining!!

>/warkop/ inclines once more because of schizos
kek

>>27437626
>otherwise we just going back talking about SC, view, elite, bule caper or worse fleshtuber

Still related to ID Vtubers though, or you want to gatekeep this thread so the topics suits you?

>>27438200
cmiiw its explaning about parasocial relationship and its not always a bad thing (as far as its still in the common senses)

>>27438200
The conclusion is normal common sense that is often forgotten by lot of people, and ignored by keyboard warrior from both sides

>>27438382
I don't mind talking about that if you bring something new to the table, but this is just straight timeloop

>>27438350
sadly yes

>>27438200
You miss the fact that everyone saying parasocial relationship is a bad thing at that time, unless this snowflake corn

>>27438460
You can say that if we need to register on this site with a username but all of us are anon, might be different people each time

>>27436329
Last few thread, most of the discussion are about indie chuuba doxxing stuff so idk what you're talking about

whatever happened to kudaposting we were taught in past threads, if you see something sus, kuda them

>>27438718
Translation: Their stream is so boring so we only gossip about their spicy doxxing stuff and not talking about their stream

Uh... Did my rant actually bring the schizos here? I'm sorry OP.

>>27439076
>implying this is a shill general
Yea this is bait

>>27439076

>>27439167
It's just the same 1 schizo using the same argument. The problem is people took the bait seriously this time.

>>27439449
Looping, the classic Indonesian debate style. No matter which side they're on, they always loop the same thing.

>>27439167
At this point? I have no idea. Just be careful next time.

>>27439449
>Debat kusir successfully bait someone to replied seriously this time
I thought it was just samefagging to keep the thread afloat...

Good morning Indochads, please stop fighting. Today, the 4th of July, is a really important day for us. This is the day when we finally repay our debt from Burgers by killing Zhang's #1 chuba, right on our ally's independence day. Please enjoy this glorious moment and let's party together.

Speaking of donations, this is the guy that donates 1000 USD once or twice per month to Risu streamlabs, Holo ID full of gachikoi like this, and hate it or not people like this support this branch financially, now imagine Kobo need to reply for hours to match this single donation

>>27439818
I'm sure there are a couple of samefag. But there's no way it's all samefag, they actually get some people to took the bait.

>>27439818
Look at the IPs lad, it's 80!
In recent threads we only could reach like 35 before so there were a lot of non-regulars here instead of samefagging

>>27440049
it's actually really easy to artificially increase ip count with a phone kek. but yeah, from the posting time it's obviously not a samefag (atleast the majority of it). probably only 1 or 2 to keep the bait rolling

>>27439838
USA USA USA USA USA

>>27440185
I guess whoever baits earlier are just tired that it's monday kek, I took a short sleep to from 6 to 10 and suddenly found this thread over the bump limit, wew, I missed the baitfun for a sleep kek

>>27439269
I use this thread to shill, so yes

>>27439899
Can IDs can be gachikois? Looking at how ID streaming culture works, I think you can't expect gachikoi harvesting to work the same way it did in EN or JP, that's why usually here, the talk is about expanding your reach to normies

>>27440578
>Can IDs can be gachikois?
Do we have a large population of lonely, single, rich adult men who are starving for love? Because if they are starving for sex, they can just hire prostitutes
Women are more loose with their pockets, regardless of age

>>27440810
Yeah and especially for ID wha tyou need are merch you can brag on, showing off is a big part of ID culture and if you can have good merch, people will come after you, don't believe me? prismatic waves scored 16m from Nijiniggers alone, if staff-san were able to replicate their fans berdikari efforts, surely the merge won't be needed since merch are big part of anycolor's profit according to IPO reports

>>27439899
It feels like Risu merch on AX is sold out solely because of him. Add that they understock Risu's too.