/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

It's hot until you read it in their voices and its an instant turn off. Calli's stupid bro voice is awful and Kiara is Kiara

how can one fall for such a fake ship?

>>2722206
Most ships are fake, it's a fictional concept people like to imagine for fun in many ways akin to porn. You know it's not real but it's a nice mental image regardless.

Not that I'd want to be one but it be shitty if you became a holostar and got force paired with some fag for a pushed relationship when you were straight

>>2722336
Mori's probably just glad she was even in hololive. Same with Kiara. Got to know each other, management suggested they become a ship,and they just agreed since they're friends already anyway and there's no harm done. Mori is the weaker link to it and I'm not surprised if she's less interested since she doesn't bring up takamori in the context of the ship in any of her streams and just brings up Kiara as a friend. Kiara on the other hand does both where she can talk about Mori as her friend and also sing a song about making babies with Mori on her ukulele live on stream

>>2722336
HanaKishi...

>>2722283
At least some good ships have actual basis in reality like NoeFure

>>2722450
NoeFure isnt a ship its a straight up lesbian relationship

>>2722450
Flare's roommate has talked about wanting to get married before, she isn't a carpet muncher

their ship is so bad
any ship that doesnt have kiara is better

>>2722543
she can be both.

>>2721566
based

>>2721566
This is like... the fakest ship ever created. It's as genuine as Kiara.

>>2723194
t. Has never seen MariRushi

>>2723194
and kiara is incredibly genuine, so...?

>>2722430
>management suggested they become a ship
I try to imagine the raging schizoid mindset of someone who unironically thinks Cover management "suggests them to become a ship".

>>2723681
Anon he's unironically right, I'm not even a TakaMori anti but it's obviously manufactured like many of the ships in the JP branch, this stuff is thought of beforehand for teetee moments and marketing, the equivalent in Holostars would be HanaKishi, it's not a bad thing but it is a management thing

>>2722597
Any yuri ship with Mori is shit.

>>2724043
She's a straight girl who isn't into yuribaiting, so no wonder

>>2724043
This, Calli is as straight as an arrow

>>2721566
>still buying into the fakest ship in hololive on April 19th in the year of the Lord two thousand and twenty-one.

There's is no grounds for it but MorIna is really hot

There's is no ground for it but TakoTori is really hot

>>2724373
based

>>2722475
I keep hearing that it's kayfabe, and we know they're both attracted to men.

>>2724373
There's plenty of grounds for it. They're the same type of weeb and gachanigger.

>>2723255
What does she put in the fucking water for KFPs to think like this? Roommate reps obliterate this view and even her actual content shows she's fake as fuck too. Just because she's actually a pandering and clout chasing whore doesn't mean she's being genuine when acting like one,

>>2733413
the thing is that i dont give a shit about gossip from unwashed, bitchy lolcow femcels and you dont look like you even watch streams.

>>2723681
>collab handled by management
>Cygames sponsored takamori shadowverse tournament

>>2726248
> He doesn't know about the bruises

>>2726248
It's unironically a cope rrat.

>>2734499
Explain.
>>2734510
That it's real or that it's kayfabe?

>>2723681
Happened with Marine & Rushia.
Happened with Watame & Haachama.
Happened with Mori & Kiara.
The only difference between the three is that the last has direct confirmation, with Mori admitting that her manager was trying to get her to stream with Kiara for Valentine's Day. Tack on this forced Shadowverse "tournament" collab organized by management and it's plain as day that it's something Cover is pushing. They know there are retards who will eat up any /u/ pairing you put in front of them, even when one half of it has talked about her tastes in men so much that her own chat got sick of it and started telling her to shut up.

The fanart is fucking adorable

>>2738573
I'm not into /u/ but I love the art.

>>2724373
>There's is no ground for it
But they are literally close friends off-stream due to mutual interests

>>2743902
Just because of the tonnes of gorgeous art the ship inspires I can't dislike it

>>2721566
Felt INCREDIBLY FORCED from day one. I think Mori initially hated it, then just grew to accept it as she and bird became friends.

Shippers are absolute scum but the people who actually get invested in this obvious corporate horseshit are actual NPCs who lack the divine animating spark that seperates rational humans from animals.

>>2745220
Nice insult, I think I'll take it.

>>2745214
They were already friends before debut

Not a big fan of takamori, but why do people shit on kiara like she is actually forcing herself on mori? The ship may be rooted in the personalities of both, but in the end both (and management) are to blame equally if it continues.

>>2745316
Orange woman bad

>>2745316
Kiara pushes it way harder and doesn't have a good sense of when it's a good idea to play into it and when she should just let the joke rest.

>What does she put in the fucking water for KFPs to think like this? Roommate reps obliterate this view and even her actual content shows she's fake as fuck too. Just because she's actually a pandering and clout chasing whore doesn't mean she's being genuine when acting like one,

>>2745316
there are some who equally shit on mori for being mean to her. Stuff Kiara says on stream like Mori not sitting beside her on the way back home from their trip, Kiara claiming that Mori doesn't care about her in a recent ryza stream.

>>2745331
I see, orange woman very bad indeed

>>2745365
is this what true unity looks like?

>>2745465
KFBeats truly are the enemy

>>2745214
>then just grew to accept it as she and bird became friends
At this point, i don't think they can drop it.
People for some reason love it but what they should do in my opinion that get all that yuribaiting out of the way in the begin of the stream and after that just let it be more about their real friendship.

>>2723681

If it wasn't pushed by EN management, I highly doubt Kiara would have been pushing that fucking hard on debut day

>>2722430
Retardchaama, Kiara was the one who forced this "ship". I still can't even call it a shop because it was based off Kiaras numberfagging and later then pity manipulation. This "ship" will never be as good as Matsuri and Luna or Botan and Lamy. It just sucks.

>>2736779
>Watame & Haachama.

As a huge fan of both it's pretty easy to forget this one even exists

>>2733847
Gossip implies something is being discussed through conjecture. There is no conjecture about how Kiara and her roommate act, it's an objective fact through observable means. Do your reps and stop saviorfagging over the fakest Holo in the company.

Why do yurifags like Takamori so much, anyways?

>>2749209
super girly character with a tough exterior girl that is actually a big softie at heart and the story of how the girly character breaks the tough girl's walls. That's the yuri perspective. There's a lot of characters in media with this exact formula that's better written and better executed. Even if somehow Mori is a lesbian, her physical preferences are towards badass tall women, her preferences in their personality (this one can be interpreted as for both men and women in general) is that they are independent, mentally stable, respect her personal space, strong personality and doesn't take shit.

>>2749209
I don't understand it either. Maybe because one of them is ultra heterosexual so they see it as a trying to get her on their side or something.

>>2749405
There's probably actual lesbian vtubers that are struggling because of their orientation out there but they rather support a fake ship which is hilarious and sad. Those who like their dynamic as friends are cool to me though.

>>2745177
>>2733061
It was a wordplay with upper post
Of course it is grounded

>>2749209
Its a good set up. Reaper that can't get rid of annoying Phoenix that can just reborn.
>>2749474
Niji has a lesbian couple iirc (Not Gundou) and there was a lesbian couple indie vtuber also. But fake ship getting support is understandable since its made to be appealing.

>>2749529
>Niji has a lesbian couple iirc

Yeah, Crossick. Kana Sukoya and Tomoe Shirayuki

https://youtu.be/R5NPJK6yhOI

>>2749209
Because they are polar opposites

>>2746724
you need to let it go

>>2721566
Aah the Takamoli, Takamoli. You know the Takamoli? The no one? I always- I always order the yuri, yuri Takamoli; and without Takamoli. I always order the Takamoli and without Takamoli. Takamoli! I like Takamoli.

I think its hilarious that so many people act like all Takamori fans are /u/schizos and not just people who appreciate their ship through the friendship. The main appeal of Takamori is how Kiara and Mori have a good dynamic, something most of you won't get if you don't watch them together and just complain because of the full HoloEN collabs. Worst of all is that some of you want to fuck your osshi so much that you don't actually love her and pretend she is something that she is not. The amount of mental gymnastics people come up with to pretend Mori doesn't care about Takamori or Kiara is staggering. Just respect your osshi and try to have fun with it, some of the best streams Kiara and Mori had were with each other.

Still better than the Gura Ame "ship" people around here try to force.

But Takatori is life.

>>2751130
I wonder, if there are ghoslings who are angry that Kiara, (as a friend) has seen more of Moris buns than they would ever have the chance to see in their life

>>2751130
I sure hope Kiara would swerve their dynamic towards their friendship instead myself

Plastic love

>>2751130
Calli does seem more open to dykeing up as late. Maybe she's finally catching the prison gay

>>2751130
All TakaMorifags I've seen in comments know it's a LARP but only here do you have schizos mistaking the LARP for reality (especially thinking Kiara is genuinely lesbian and Mori actually hates her) while simultaneously claiming they can see through the LARP. The whole thing is some super saiyan levels of irony.

>>2736779
>Tack on this forced Shadowverse "tournament" collab organized by management and it's plain as day that it's something Cover is pushing
Its clear Cover is capitalizing on something that is immensly popular. Only actual schizoids think that management forces them to be fake gay for pay. Its an idea they had and they went through with it, it became popular and they stuck with it. People who actually watch Mori know she is chuuni as fuck and "romance of death and the immortal" would be something she would find just as cool as Kiara.

>>2745199
Based

>>2752143
My personal rrat is that it was Mori who came with the idea in the first place.

>>2752313
my brain is melting at the thought
feels nice

>>2751130
Oh i am not saying they aren't very good friends because of course they are. I just wish Kiara would calm down with the yuribaiting and let it be more like their friendship.
>>2751754
>Calli does seem more open to dykeing up as late. Maybe she's finally catching the prison gay
This is what i am talking about /u/fags wishing her to coming to their side. If there is 100% straight woman it is Mori.

All vtuber ships are fake and gay

>>2752868
Kiara really doesn't push /u/ as much as you think. And you just want Mori to be straight, just let her be herself:
https://youtu.be/TOZ2Q3HjLSQ
https://youtu.be/zYTIrIFyxRk

>>2752649
I mean, if you think about it it makes sense. She's chunni as fuck, referenced Kiara during her debut stream and debut song and even has a member emote for Kiara.

Shame she sucks as actress

Just enjoy your canonical pairing, fucking retarded virgins. Stop obsessing over someone's sexuality irl. These characters are not real.

>>2752949
>just let her be herself
Tell that some takamorifags who try to make her into this butch lesbian type and to be fair i don't really see anything particular gay about those clips. I can admire a mans body and it doesn't mean i am gay.
Like Mori herself says "it is not weird until you make it weird".

>>2753440
>I can admire a mans body and it doesn't mean i am gay
Anonchama!?

>>2753468
There is difference between being lusting towards that body and admiring it.

I hate this forced ship so much

I hope Calli collabs with Rikka more to the point people start to ship them instead so that the yurifags can just seethe

>>2752143
>You’re a schizoid for believing Cover would encourage them to act like dykes
>I, on the other hand, am perfectly same for insisting Mori came up with the idea despite having no proof and spouting pure conjecture as fact
Do you schizophrenics really?

>>2752949
>just let her be herself
You mean straight?

>>2753440
My point is that it doesn't really matter if Mori is gay or not. You guys project onto Mori what you want her to be. The very difference between yurifags and you, is that yurifags are aware of their fantasies while you are not. You deny the side of Mori that plays with these things because you want her to be 100% straight, you want the possibility that she could be into you. At the same time, you deny Mori the freedom to be who she is. You don't want her to play or interact with her friend because you don't want to feed rrats, you ignore an entire aspect of her persona because you don't actually like Mori, you just want to pretend she is who you want to think she is.

>>2753823
The irony is that the only ones that would seethe would be deadbeats.

>>2754131
>it doesn't really matter if Mori is gay or not
Not that anon, but she's not gay or bi and you don't need much digging to hear that directly from her saying it. I'd be perfectly fine with their actual friendly dynamic on screen instead of the yuribaiting that only Kiara does anyway. Mori plays along with it, but would be definitely happy regardless.

>>2754131
>you don't want her to play or interact with her friend
Hey, i never said this. I am all fine with Takamori collabs when Kiara tones down the yuribaiting and it is just two great friends playing together.

>>2754361
Holy cope

>>2754131
That's some pretty cute psycho-babble you've got there but have you considered that you're projecting?
>no, no, WE know it's a fantasy but it's actually you guys that don't
>meanwhile you have yurifags that pretend every song Mori writes is somehow related to Kiara, spam about Kiara during her streams, reply to her on twitter with "Does Kiara know you're doing this?" when she does anything with any of the other ENs (like when she made her Ame shrine), etc, etc
You're so set in your "We're the good guys, you're the bad guys" mentality that you refuse to accept there are people on your "side" equally as obnoxious as the people you bitch about.

But hey, since we're being therapists in here, I'll take it a step further and say that you don't give a shit about Mori beyond your fantasy that she's a dyke. Because like most Takamorifags, you're not interested in characters, and you're not certainly not interested in the people either, you just want two dolls that you can smush together and making kissing sound effects while telling yourself they're totally into each other. Without that, you'd have latched onto Ame and Gura like every other troglodyte.

>>2754430
It's you coping, if you actually believe otherwise.

>>2754429
>>2754361
>>2754173
This much cope holy shit

>>2754494
>>2754479

>>2754479
She will never have sex with you

>>2754534
Then at least I'm not as delusional as you.

>>2754564
Dude get a grip this is pathetic even by 4chan standards

>>2754659
It's you projecting, but live in your fantasy if that makes you happy. Just don't force your yuri shit onto the ones who aren't daydreaming.

Why people get so weirdly defensive about Mori?

>>2724149
>straight girl x lesbian
Hot.

>>2754850
Because some of us actually watch her.

>>2754812
Here you need this

>>2754982
Believe whatever you want, but you're the retard here.

>>2754931
You clearly don't so why lie?

>>2754429
>only "I" understand and love Mori, which is why she would have sex with me.
People obsessed with "disproving" this pairing between two fictional characters need to take their meds, and fast.

Memori love

>>2755138
But he has a point though and it also goes with dadfags.

>>2721566
Takamori is one of the most forced yuribait shit that Cover ever did. It's cringe as fuck

>>2755138
/u/schizos obsessed with this pairing between two fictional characters need to take their meds, and fast.

>>2755706
why are you pretending you're posting for the first time here lmao

>>2754361
Most of Takamori is just that, anon.
>>2754429
Let me remind you what I said:
>I think its hilarious that so many people act like all Takamori fans are /u/schizos and not just people who appreciate their ship through the friendship.
Keyword here is "all". I do recognize that there are some schizos Takamorifags, mainly the ESL ones that barely watch their streams and have no regard for the ruled. And yes, its obnoxious how they try to turn anything into Takamori related things. I am glad that for the most part that Mori ignores that and that Kiara constantly puts those people down. The things is though that those are the minority of fans and also people that never come here. And yet, in every Takamori related thread you can bet your ass that there is going to be some retarded deadbeat claiming that Takamori is forced, that Mori doesn't like it, that she hates Kiara, that she is straight or that Kiara is a leech. These people have also proven countless times that they don't actually have watched Takamori content. Usually yurifags are chill around here, you never see people claiming that Takamori is real or that Kiara and Mori are secretly girlfriends or stupid shit like that, but no matter how chill you are, there are still gonna be retarded people shitting up the threads. And this mostly fall on deadbeats. Now, you tell me, how come you want to convince me that these people like Mori for who she is when they refuse to watch part of her content because they don't want to deal with Takamori teetee? I think it'd be one things if they don't like parts of it, but really, all of it? Even though it is something that makes your osshi happy? That makes her life better? Phrasing and seething goes a long way to show that people are invested in a very specific aspect of Mori and for a lot of deadbeats, its GFE.

>>2756525
Based beyond the mortal realm

>>2756525
>Even though it is something that makes your osshi happy? That makes her life better?
She wanted to collab with the unfunny dildo salesman and VShojo whores too. That would've made her happy and I didn't support that either. If you support every single thing your oshi does not because you judge it to be good but simply because it's her and she can do no wrong then you are unironically a fucking drone. Try having an opinion that isn't dictated by someone else and their perceived approval or disapproval first.

>>2756525
>when they refuse to watch part of her content because they don't want to deal with Takamori teetee?
I don't think there is anything wrong with skipping streams that don't interest you and i can say that i have skipped most of takamori streams that weren't A Way Out or Shrek watchalong.

>>2756525
Nah, you're way off. Kiara has unstable self-esteem and will constantly question whether or not people like her, which results in her unintentionally emotionally abusing Mori.
Also, Mori does a ton of cool, nice stuff for Kiara, and in return Kiara can only come up with stuff on the same level as one of those creepy superchats.
Fortunately for her, Mori has a very high tolerance for cringe.

>>2757721
Of course she has to have a high tolerance, all of her streams are cringe Kino. One of the most prime arguments for watching mori streams is that she is a massive dork

>>2757128
>>2757238
There is nothing wrong in skipping streams you don't want to watch or having your own opinion. But if you delude yourself into thinking you're right about these things when you're never seeing past the surface and just assuming you're right, you can be called out on your "love" for Mori. There is a clear difference when you say that you don't like something instead of saying that something is "like that". If you have to lie to maintain your perception of Mori, there is clearly something wrong, this is different from criticism.

>>2753103
>Spoiler
I think that's why I dislike it. It's the same routine from her no matter how Kiara twists it and it makes me so bored of it.

>>2759038
I am still not saying they are not good friends because they clearly are and i am glad for Mori.

>>2759484
Weirdly enough, she tends to say only nice and good things about Kiara unprompted on her streams but she rarely acts like that when collaborating with Kiara.

>>2760035
It's almost like she's playing a tsundere or something...

>>2762473
Those two at least kissed during the Homiemoon

>all these schizos in one thread

>>2722170
This.

Calli beating up kiara live on stream in 3D while saying things like "you made me do it" "its your fault" etc. when?

>>2768580
We all know Kiara would get off at that

It is not just Takamori for me, every yuri pairing with Mori feels weird to me. I just prefer these ships being more based on friendships than being romantic.

>>2760035
THAT’S THE BEST PART

>>2745214
It's cringe because you can tell Mori isn't actually into it, they should stop.

Takamori kino right now

>>2745365
>Kiara claiming that Mori doesn't care about her in a recent ryza stream.
timestamp?

>>2775192
Thats not really what she said, she said Mori doesn't miss her like she misses her.
https://youtu.be/jQg0XhTTUZo

>>2770026
It depends for me. I can't see PekoMoona as having any romance, same for HaatoWatame. Maybe my yuri goggles aren't as strong as others.

>>2776367
Its weird to see PekoMoona in that light when Moona already has Iofi.

TakaMori stream just finished and their chemistry is still great. Takanashi dialed the thirst way back except for key moments and I feel like it didn’t feel forced at all. Although Mori was still a bit afraid of anything suggestive… outside of the nail & hammer portion of the game.

>>2722170
FPBP

>>2780740
Motherfucking Mamaloni, tho

The woman doesn't sleep and maybe doesn't even eat as long there's Takamori

>>2722170
Nah, I can't get enough of Calli being a massive annoyed tsundere at Kiara's cheesy as fuck advances.

>>2780888
mamaloni even manages to make kiara look appealing
she always looks fluffy and cuddleable
wouldn't mind her becoming a mama for gen2 or something

Easiest way to piss off /vt/ is say anything positive about kiara

I feel like I'm on tumblr in 2012.
And it's so fucking nostalgic

>>2781222
Fuck you, anon. Kiara is fluffly, cute and cuddeable. The only real problem she has is her outfit, outside of that, she is absolutely gorgeous. Putting that aside, I agree, Mamaloni could become a mama for Gen2 or something like that.

>>2782379
t. Mori

>>2782379
calm down. of all the negative posts about the chicken to latch onto why my post?
just saying that i like mamaloni's art

You say Takamori but I Nakadashi her KFPussy every day.
[spolier] t. Her cat [/spoiler]

Clara is the best thing