/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

MKGA

https://twitter.com/Trash83622432/status/1543404966349778944

By itself, Kson joining Vshojo is great. What soured the whole thing was that Rushia joined with her, with Kson's support.
Rushia is a known leaker. She was fired from her last job for leaking information to the public. To support such a thing by helping her get into a similar position shows a massive lack of respect for the integrity of the industry and the victims of her last exploits.
By supporting Rushia, Kson is saying it's ok to leak information. By allowing Rushia to join with a warm welcome, the rest of Vshojo are saying the same thing.

I told you Kson will join VshoujoJP.
And I accept it as the bridge between 2 worlds. VshoujoJP will be good friendly rival to Hololive.

The strom is approaching
The wind of change is howling

T. JP COCOfag

>>27355370
Being baited into ringfit?

>>27355562

>One of the highest superchat earners of all time
>Patron Saint of Holo EN
>Caused an international incident that destroyed the entire branch of Hololive CN
>Graduates with record breaking numbers
>Becomes a successful indie who collabs with many others
>Pulls the ultimate power move and joins Vshojo to create the JP branch that will most likely not be a complete embarrassment like the EN version (possibly even roping in other former Hololive talents)
>Causes tribalfags, /vt/schizos, and an entire fucking country to seethe endlessly

There will never EVER be a more based and influential Vtuber than Coco.

>>27355707
>the en hoors slip her a mikey and now Kattarina Qutie has compromising videos of kson and forces her to vote for open borders policy

how long until the onlyfans bros?...

>>27355707
>fanbase (mike's too) has huge overlap with hololive, does not watch vshojo, not interested in their content
>joins the company anyways
This is a huge mistake

>>27356503
yeah they should have joined hololive instead

>>27356503
>This is a huge mistake
?
The Japs are overwhelmingly positive about it.

>>27356794
Because I said that right?
Just look at the state of all the mike threads.

>>27357127
mike threads make up like 0.1% of her fanbase, japanese people do not know what the fuck a vshojo is and they do not care

>>27357109
You won't know what Japanese really think until the numbers come out

The thread calmed down...

I'm gonna say the usual thing then

Sex with Kumichou

sex with kson

Here's your numbers >>27357200

I come from /vsj/.Which vshojo girl would you like to see kson collab with first?

>>27357723
Sydnap and Rushia

>>27357331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViXSzU8UjbI

>>27357109
Proof next thread ?

The only japs that got upset were the kanacoco ones because they hate mikeneko.
That isuka artist almost had a mental breakdown in her private account, she deleted the tweets

https://twitter.com/VShojoOfficial/status/1543420129291243521

>>27355150
how we feeling guys?

Here is my AX tummy picture collection for today, it's all the pictures I could find on twitter and a couple others:
https://files.catbox.moe/xymvzb.zip

There's a couple that are bad quality or almost duplicates but I just saved them all anyway. If she's gonna be there tomorrow and the next day I'll keep collecting them.

Also I found the panel seems to have gone on longer than what was streamed, I hope they release the full thing somewhere.

>>27359062
kson looking like a mama playing with the kids
milf mama

>>27359143
thanks anon, god bless you
I'm gonna masterbate to that now

>>27359062
That coat is too big

NGL bros, I was pretty sure the threads would've been radioactive for the next several days. That anon from the other thread had a point about how peaceful this usually is lol

>>27358669
Damn, really? She's retweeted a couple of Kson tweets, so it looks like she's calmed down. Doubt the KanaCoco/PJKson teetee will run dry, so I don't think there's much to worry about.

>>27359523
it is supposed to be big

>>27359270
Yes, the mama of my kids
>She said GMMF but the mic wan't on yet
This dork...

>>27359143
Based tummy archivist

>>27355540
>lack of respect of the integrity of the industry
Do you reread your posts before you hit Submit? Because that is some of the most autistic neckbeard shit I've read today.

Personally interested in seeing how these things go. From my understanding, Vshojo are so hands off that members like Zen have competing merch stores. Honestly I don't have clue what Vshojo does outside of branding.

>>27355540

vshojo doesn't give a shit what their members do lmao, they don't care what rushia might do.
The company is two guys who do nothing and collect a cut from the profit of streamers who could earn just as much without them, they're winning no matter what

>>27360894
School Kson made me feel things.

>>27360694
They describe it as a sliding scale. They can have as much or as little management as they want. Gunrun is also an insane tech guy and Fugiman just casually revealed that he was hired to work for VShojo back in March during AX.

>>27360999
so now there is someone to ask for help with kson camera

>>27361319
onegai.

Bros how do I cope... with my sore balls? I have a tummy fetish... feels like I got kicked

I wonder of they will bring the same business model with Vshojo JP.
If so, it would potentially be the first to really do so. I'm assuming that even Niji does not provide so much autonomy.

Why did kson and rika put up the cover shortly before this? What if nazuna is rika?

>>27363216
She wouldn't be joining if it didn't work the same in JP. She described how her ideal vtuber group would work before and she was basically describing Vshojo (EN).

Also Niji is the same as Hololive, they're just a little less restrictive since they don't have an idol image. They still own all your shit and take a lot of your money.

https://twitter.com/VShojoJP/status/1543443989571190784?s=20&t=1NmdMcmgK_81ITt4nBxbZw

if there's actually any jap here you can get a free tshirt and meet a cute cosplayer again

Welcome to the family!

>>27366029
I'm 26 and not eligible for adoption
Appreciate the thought though

how can I work for vshoujo?

>>27366128
get a job at hololive

>>27365692
>50 likes, handful of retweets and no rplies
gunrun your ad campaign...

>>27355707
Too bad all of that is irrelevant since she became yet another LA black dick lover chick, also gaining weight at an alarming rate.

>>27366477
you expect ads to be banger posts or something?

>>27366649
anon she grew up in atlanta she was already so

>>27366649
If you keep talking about black dick so much, people might get the impression you're a flaming homo anon

I wanna kiss her tummy...

I have returned, and I've checked that the rrats were true. Kson is a Vshojo now. But then again, here's my thoughts. As a saviourchad and a survivor of one of the biggest yabs in vtubing (pissing off a global superpower), she'd be the very type of person who will know how to deal with yabs. Whatever happens to VShojo is nothing compared to what she had to endure. So ultimately, even if this place melted down as it usually does whenever Vshojo is mentioned, it will just end up a nothingburger.

Still happy for Kson, still supporting her, but I've moved on.

Will you guys watch her collab stream?

>>27367494
I wish I had a black-sized dick

>>27368600
Personally I'll be avoiding any collab stream and hope they don't try to involve themselves too much with her otherwise

ill watch all her streams even if she streams with zentransya

>>27368600
I really don't know much about the VS talents, except the two collabs Kson already did, but I like her energy in collabs generally, so yes.

Saw the Vshojo announcement by accident.
I respect her for her previous contributions to the Vtuber industry, but have been losing interest for a while. Now that she's officially joining Vshojo, I'm no longer interested at all.
For me, entertainment is all about escapism. I like Vtubers who exist in their own bubble, shielded from controversy, drama, politics and real-world events. For the most part, Hololive does a good job at creating such bubble. Vshojo does not - and maybe that's fine, but not for me. Being "restrictive" is not necessarily a bad thing, depending on how you look at it.

>>27358669
It’s not because they hate Rushia, it’s been almost exclusively because of her new design which is just discount Kanatan. I’m kind of mad because of it too but I guess I’ll just headcanon her being a friend from Kanata’s time at the angel academy or something and not sperg out like other kncc fans

>>27371145
to each their own, restriction is good for some people but clearly it wasnt for kson or she wouldnt have left such a succesful persona

>>27371145
>I'm mad she's not restricted even though she was already not restricted
uh alright

Why do people think she's gonna stay in LA? Clearly, she just went there for this.

>>27368600
The handful of Vshojo collabs she has done so far have been stiff and awkward compared to her indie gang, hopefully meeting several of them IRL will give them some better chemistry. Pink cat should really shut the fuck up about weed though.

I don't understand how this matches any of her stated goals for the past year

Considering how she said she was still going to be indie, I see this move as a way to help connect the JP scenes and EN scenes. It was an opportunity denied to her in her previous life due to unfortunate circumstances but now that she found a group used to dealing with schizo haters, she decided to cast her lot with them.

>>27371914
I think the collabs so far have been pretty great outside of the Minecraft one. And that one was only awkward because Mel didn't have any idea what to do so she joined Mouse's plans for the evening which involved PvE stuff and not exploring the cool world that they'd built up so far. But both other Mel collabs and Speak of the Devil were pretty fun imo.

>>27368600
No. Every collab she's done with them has sucked

>>27372401
I want her to interview famous people like some Hologirls did... She could have done a better job a the other girls

>>27371523
I think a significant amount of people on this board are either actually retarded or they don't understand English. They heard her say "I'm in America" so they think that means she lives there now.
>>27371987
Her ultimate goal is to make vtubing mainstream, if she can make VshojoJP big it will accomplish that goal.

>>27372599
>But both other Mel collabs and Speak of the Devil were pretty fun imo.
Yeah this gives me hope. I think Melody is surprisingly dorky in a way that gels very well with Kson.

This thread is sadder than /ptg/.

>>27373449
>making vtubing mainstream through vshojo
do people actually want this though?

>>27371145
>>27371241
If this makes sense, I think freedom also requires already having a degree of self-restraint to not do something to put yourself in hot water. Given Kson has a firm belief on positivity, the chances of her saying something that she really shouldn't is slim compared to the other VShojo girls.

>>27373449
They prolly don't even know about the vacation with PJK she ought to be having soon. On that topic, it's gonna be weird to think about newer fans being unaware of the history between them. Or just how much she loves PJK for that matter.

>>27355150
Dumb whore. Should have just stayed in burgerland like the dumb cunt she is. Hope Kanata moves as far away from her as possible.

>>27374497
>/ptg
15 min reading about that place I still don't understand what they do...

>>27375219
I'm sure Kanata will be upset as Kson pampers her on another romantic train trip, anon.

China getting blasted harder than they did by Japan during WW2. Seething Chinamen always makes me happy.

>>27375977
Did they ever care about Kson much to seethe?

>>27376006
Imagine being pettanko for 3 life cycles.

>>27358120
No anti here and it's calm I think the future is so bright

>>27376152

>>27376180
Look at that eyebrows...

>>27376256
Lol, as if a US company cares about bilibili.

I'm sorry, but Vshojo won in AX today.

>>27376256
I wonder if this woman still makes outfits for pink cat or is just her original creator. Either way they should cut ties inmediatly

>>27376667
besides kson joining, anything else exciting happen in ax?

>>27376806
Rushia is joining.

>>27376806
trigger is saving anime again

>>27376778
She was the the artist for the original pink cat model, not the current one that pink cat uses since her redebut. This isn't really a big deal

>>27376806
an asolfo cosplayer kissed me

>>27376806
Panty and Stocking season 2 and some goodsmile nendo line.

>>27376256
Surprisingly, the Chinese have speculation and discussion without going full chinkout. Nia probably put this post out to protect herself.

Source:
https://space.bilibili.com/11041707/

T.AnonThatLearnChinese

>>27374996
>On that topic, it's gonna be weird to think about newer fans being unaware of the history between them. Or just how much she loves PJK for that matter.
Tangentially related to that, something I've thought about for a while but is more relevant now, is she should really do more English zatsudans. Based on her Twitch chat and some retarded shit I read outside this thread, I get the feeling that her EOP fanbase doesn't really know her very well. Not even sure if she said the name PJK on an English stream yet. On Youtube there's honhe so every stream is part zatsudan so she tells a whole bunch of random life stories to her JP fans, and they have all sorts of in-jokes and stuff with her, but on the English side they don't really have that.

And by English zatsudans I mean build gunpla on Twitch.

>>27376004

>>27377454
Yep, that's the impression I got about Nia as well. Just trying to make sure she doesn't get any heat from weirdos.

>>27357723
Melody

>>27377581
>I get the feeling that her EOP fanbase doesn't really know her very well
Because she never tries to actually tell her personal stories to the EN side.

>>27378254
Yea that's what I'm saying, she should start doing that

>Finally get back home.
>Come back and see the news.
This is almost too much for me. I've bided my time for nearly a year to see if she could get back to the level she was at when she was Coco with regards to content. I waited for the Souchou debut, I kept hoping even after GMMF fell through, and I was excited to see what she could do with 3D. But now with her move to Vshojo? There's little chance she'll be putting out the type of stuff that drew me to her in the first place. Maybe that kind of content was only possible back in hololive. Maybe she wants to distance herself from that style. Maybe she doesn't see the point of doing content in that way or simply just doesn't want to do it anymore. Well, in any case, I'm not sure I can keep going. This might be where I get off the ride.

>>27378254
True
>Gives elaborate explanation about her grandpa situation in Japanese
>"Grandpa hurt, he fine though" in English

>>27355540
What's even more damning than that is that Rushia has a boyfriend. This casts in doubt any potential for genuine tee tee yuri between her and kson. It'll all feel fake.

>>27379015
She doesn't have one, she tried to date a celebrity and failed.

>>27376256
Based. Maybe this'll mean that they'll give Nyanners the boot and vshojo will become slightly more watchable.

>>27379015
...multiple vshojo girls are in public relationships
hell Kson has worked w/ one of the bfs

>>27379211
That's EN though. JP will be vshojo only in name and instead will function as a seperate agency run by kson. This was her plan all along.

>>27379298
big if true

>>27379298
My point is I don't see how it would matter whether Rushia has a boyfriend.
Then again I never understood that yuri-shipping stuff so what do I know

>>27355150
is Kson a vegetarian?

>>27379298
>This was her plan all along.
No one knows her plans yet.

>>27379461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxCj9DK9DX8

>>27379298
That's not how corporate work

>>27379015
Not like she needs a second angel girlfriend.

>>27379433
>so what do I know
That's right, you don't know.

>>27379539
thnaks fren

>>27379541
As a corporate I think I should know.

>>27379461
*vagetarian

>>27379015
>>27379211
>>27379433
I will say if Rushia even thinks of openly talking about having a boyfriend or trying to date a guy the meltdown will be something she won’t recover from

>>27378914
Ok bye.

Interesting that the Vshojo rrat turned out to be true. I wasn't a believer, because she was a well established indie who even mentioned that she was not interested in joining an agency anymore. I think the main reason I didn't believe the rrat is because I just don't see what's in it for her.

So, what made her decide to join, what is in it for her? Do you think Vshojo just wrote her a bigass check?

Is a holo collab actually possible in the future now?

>>27379858
china/israel has threatened her

>>27379858
She also said she would never graduate and here we are.

>>27376180
She does it on purpose. She explicitly influenced Rushia's design (being one of two in Gen 3 to have creative input on her design, the other being Pekora) and engineered the pettan jokes herself.

>>27379858
You believed a woman, your first mistake.

>>27379858
More opportunities to do stuff, and none of the downsides of a traditional corp. Many professionals don't work with indies. She talked about this a lot and there's even translated clips of it.

>>27379858
I'm guessing difficulties getting her 3D set up as an indie was a factor. She mentioned some studios just won't work with indies at all.

>>27380176
She didn't even have a Live2D when she first started to talk about her big plans, this has been decided for a long time.

>>27379620
Quite frankly, if vsj+ was able to predict Kson joining and y'all couldn't, doesn't that mean y'all don't know your chuuba as much as you'd like to think

>>27376806
-Panty & Stocking 2
-Trigun remake/prequel(?)
-New BLEACH season

>>27380447
Apparently, she contradicted herself and lied multiple times about not joining any agency. I guess never trust a woman.

>>27380589
>never trust a woman.
This is a good life lesson. Especially don't believe them if they tell you they've been raped.

>>27380589
clips?

>>27379858
>So, what made her decide to join, what is in it for her? Do you think Vshojo just wrote her a bigass check?
I'm guessing it's a 1 million dollar contract. Vshojo is investing a lot of money on her if they're trusting her to carry their JP brand. If I was in her shoes, I'd also accept that.

>>27355562
It will become Akatsuki kind of shit and they'll pander to hololive anti. It's gonna be an all out war between fans KEK.

>>27379298
Is some kind of progress I think. Even if nothing changes that much, she can get to do many things that as an indie would be harder, like going to the AX, she could have gone anyways maybe but it would have to do eveything alone, now it's easier and she has something interesting to do there. She just likes to do new things and this is a good way to make that "new things" come to her.

>it's just a hobby
She said
>I stream for fun
She said...

This thread today reminds me of after the graduation when people kept asking "why quit? she made money" over and over and over when she had explicitly answered the question. Except this time she talked about why she would join a group like Vshojo in English so it's even worse:
https://youtu.be/zRfvdHO7nfc?t=801

>>27380447
The Vshojo thread went schizo about meaningless things, and they missed the biggest smoking gun >>27247280
I don't think they were aware of her saying months ago that she was taking a trip to America at this time either. Or any mention of when she randomly rebranded her accounts from kson総長 to something English friendly. A bunch of other stuff too.

>>27380766
> pander to Hololive anti
> Chink who spam Coco

No and will not happen

> Kson is saviourfag.
> She know to love not hate.

Believe in her anon

She played us all like goddamn fiddles.
Cover was right. It was Cover's restriction and influence that made Coco great.
Without that she's just a dumb broad. The only reason she was doing so well this past year was the non compete clause from Cover, once again a final gift from them.
Forgive me Cover, I kneel.

The falseflaggers aren't trying hard enough today.

>>27380916
No one watched that faggot

>>27380946
This bait will work in other threads where everyone there didn't watch Asacoco get dismantled in front of their eyes.

>>27380946
Hololive great before they less restriction not more restriction.

And talent like Choco, Fubuki,Aqua carry hard for 2 years

>>27380678
I am not >>27380589 but as Coco she definitely said (paraphrasing) "I don't think I would join any company," but it was more about avoiding mentioning her future as Kson, and keep Kiryu Coco separate, as was her duty at the time. I don't think the words "I promise" were ever used, but I guess enough people heard it that way, or want to remember it that way.

As Kson it's barely come up, but the attitude was that she was doing everything she wanted so far, and didn't see a need for it. Again, it's fair to say there is no big "promise", but I'm not making excuses either, because I understand how people can hear it that way if they want to.

>>27380729
I have no doubt that money is nice, but Kson wasn't desperate, judging by how much she spent on her 3D alone. Most things in life are multi-causal. So in addition to money, other factors here are probably:
1. Less difficulty getting sponsorships, working with services companies, etc. as other people in the thread have pointed out.
2. She has always wanted to find a way to help vtubers, as a profession, as a cultural force. I suspect being able to experiment under the umbrella of an "agency" that is less top-down than an all-encompassing "entertainment company", has some appeal in exploring those goals further.
3. As much as the "Kson friends" have been an informal crew, getting to be part of a JP branch gives her a crew to riff off of, lore-wise, stream commentary, and collab with more often. I expect she'll still collab with anyone she wants, but it probably feels more accessible to discuss/joke about someone under the same umbrella than, say, bringing up 18go or Yura out of nowhere.

The moment she does something political, any statement, comment etc. I'm out.

>>27366649
>gaining weight at an alarming rate
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1543402239754088448

she's 52 kilos

>>27381080
Cover isn't perfect. They've made fuck ups, even big ones, all through their history.
That doesn't change the reality.
Following someone doesn't mean blind support regardless of what they do and say.
I was heavily critical of Cover, but it's clear there was and is a need for their actions, Kson has showed us all clearly yesterday what happens without their benevolent, if heavy and sometimes misguided, hand.
I should have believed Fubuki all along.

>>27381133
She already did, bye.

>>27380916
True, but the point I was trying to make is basically the same as yours.
ITT anons have no idea why Kson would join VShojo, when anyone that knew anything about what she wants for vtubers and how VShojo works should know that it's basically tailor-made for her.
t. vsj anon

>>27381149
>she's 52 kilos
Yeah me too

>>27381130
>but Kson wasn't desperate
I never once said she was desperate. Just because you want the money doesn't mean you're desperate. Anyone in her shoes would take it because you literally just have to carry the brand without having to report to their management while still being able to say she's an indie. It's like being sponsored by Monster or GFuel, the brand sticks in your name and you get free money without doing anything. It's the easiest job in the world for popular streamers. Western companies love doing this and it's not a surprise that they're having a deal with kson too.

I know people are still going to discuss (or argue) about the situation overall, but at some point we HAVE to get around to post about something very, very important that has gone under-discussed:
JKson.

At least >>27360894 knows what's up.

>>27381172
What happened yesterday? She had fun judging by the photos.

>>27381306
>I never once said she was desperate. Just because you want the money doesn't mean you're desperate.
Please don't misunderstand me: I never said you said that. I was qualifying my statement. I was saying that I partially agree with you, but explaining where I differ.

>>27381133
she already said faggot on stream, now leave.

>>27381149
>3 kilos less she wouldn't even be able to give blood
Tinychou...

She really has a lot of explaining to do.

>>27381420
Fair enough.

>>27381306
> If she want money, she would stay Hololive.

Anon... your logic...

>>27381425
Learn to read, faggot.

>>27381446
When is she streaming again? I want to hear what she has to say. I'm sure a lot of people are curious.

>>27380530
Also, Trigger aquired the rights for PSG and TTGL.

>>27381500
probably nothing until the debut stream on the 16th

>>27381255
Multiple people suspected it but nobody talked about it because there was no point and we don't care. This thread generally dislikes pointlessly speculating or "ratts" or whatever it's called elsewhere on the board so people get grumpy when people show up and do it here.

>>27381487
Nope, fuck off.

>>27381470
I didn't even say any of this. Who the fuck are you quoting? Also, learn to speak english, ESL.

>>27381470
She already said she doesn't want to be in hololive. Stop being a dumb tourist and lurk 2 more years before posting.

>>27381133
She has insulted Florida so many times I don't even know how you are still here.

>>27381500
It depends on if she wants to stream with that shitty mic again.

>>27380916
I watched that and took it to mean she intended to create that agency herself, not become a foreign pet

>>27381582
Oh right i forgot, nowadays saying good morning is political

>>27381582
Florida is a shithole and deserves everything people say about it.
t. ex-Floridian that lived there for 15 years.

>>27381629
>foreign pet
In the whorehouse

>>27381673
Look forward to Kson making charity streams to get hormones to babies, and to fund abortion trips.
But you'll always support her.

>>27381635
Seems that way, doesn't it? It's too easy to come up with convoluted ways that literally anything could offend someone, somewhere, somehow. Trying it out: If you're saying "good morning" you're disrespecting people who work night shifts jobs and for whom mornings are the end of their days, or whose mornings aren't good.

>>27381744
I can never tell if posts like these are sarcastically hyperbolic, if you believe your posts literally, or if it's neither and you just get off on catastrophizing.

>>27381500
There are 2 days left of the convention. Streaming at her normal time requires waking up insanely early. Might not be one until she gets home.
>>27381629
She basically is creating it herself. There's 2 people in it. She's going to mold it in her image.

>>27381829
Non scarcastically hyperbolic.
I'm exaggerating a bit. Maybe. I don't know anything anymore.
But Vshojo is a very political company, you can't watch any of them for more than an hour (except maybe Mouse) without tripping in politics.

>>27381916
It can't be in her image, it's a huge brand already so she'd need to eclipse the other entirely for it to end up in her image

>As a long time fan of K-SON I am very disappointed that she showed her butt and also something about nux connorson!!!!!!1

>>27381983
>it's a huge brand already
It is not a huge brand in Japan. As best I can tell they think of VS the way they think of Hololive EN, e.g. thinking that Calliope Mori is a aloof, super-cool person, and a very serious rapper. Most Japanese fans just cannot form the same context.
Kson will be a bigger part of deciding what "VShoujo Japan" is, to its ACTUAL audience than, than the limited interpretations of the current talents.

True, she's making her own JP branch with blackjack and hookers

>>27381983
In Japan Vshojo was an unknown foreign group who did an idol concert once. It's now a fresh new Japanese group lead by Kson and her sidekick michael cat.
>>27381923
You better leave before you hear her say she doesn't mind paying taxes since it is used to improve society and help her countrymen. Dunno if you can handle it.

>>27382158
Sure the JPs don't have a clue but to everyone else she's absolutely endorsing and now put herself in with the existing lot. If she wanted to do it differently to them she shouldn't have joined them. I love her enough that I'll give her a chance to explain it but I can't willingly have any of my money go towards anything involving the EN branch

>>27382257
>and her sidekick michael cat.
I am going to miss being able to use that nickname. I never used it with any ill will, but it just sounds so silly that I couldn't resist. Same for derivatives, e.g. Miguel Gato.

holy shit how is this schizo still crying. It's been roughly 16 hours ever since she announced it. Get a hold of yourself because it seems like you're going to have a fucking stroke lmao

>she shouldn't do this!
>she shouldn't do that!
>she should only listen to me! me! me!
holy mother of mental illness.

>>27381983
>It can't be in her image,
Nope it definitely will be in her image. If you disagree, you can kindly fuck off.

GNMF! I stayed up too late. Time for a long rest. Hopefully that bitch also rests instead of partying since she got up before 5am yesterday.

>>27382208
In fact, forget the JP branch

>>27382480
These are the types of fans most Vtubers have to deal with.

There's definitely a few dedicated shit-stirrers, not just one person. However, we are ahead of schedule in terms of the dropoff. We were putting up with intense trolling for many weeks after the graduation last year, and still had constant low-tier dramabait through September.
It seems like dramasisters have been so spoiled in the last year, that the high fades faster, and they need to get their next hit sooner and sooner.

>>27382480
>she shouldn't do this
this but unironically, i'm waiting for explanation why she did this.

>>27382480
Ah yes, the audacity of wanting an entertainer to not get on a high horse and start declaring we're all sinners because we won't suck crossdresser cock.

>>27382480
She should build more gunpla. She shouldn't do karaoke streams that don't have any Gundam songs in them.

>>27382743
...aren't you literally doing the inverse, getting on your own high horse for some arbitrary reason?

at least now, HASMR won't be a image damaging problem

>>27355150
Kson is finally where she belongs.

>>27382480
>She should confess to PJK.

>>27382842
It wouldn't be a problem before. Also she's never gonna do it.

>/vsj/ tourists pretending they're regulars

>>27382909
>she's never gonna do it
just like she would never join Vshojo?

>>27382803
For one, I'm not an entertainer asking for support.
Why should I support someone who associates with people who hate me and everything I hold dear?
Asking to not be political is hardly a high horse, it's the bare minimum to have a functioning piece of entertainment. I don't want politics in my vtubing, if you do you are the problem.

>>27382480
Unfortunately most human beings act this way: like they (personally) should be the most important influence in another person's opinions and actions. These attitudes appear amplified on the internet, because people who are mature enough to think "I did not like X, but I understand it is not under my control," tend to share their opinions less often. It gives the appearance that the only opinions are either self-centered overreactions, or people reacting in opposition to those overreactions.

>>27382780
This is an extreme opinion that will make an exception for.

>strawman argument

>>27382570
The image of mel, nyanners, ironmouse and all the rest are inseparable from the name in the world outside of Japan, and now that is stuck to her unless she completely eclipses them in every possible way, which won't happen

>>27355150
Biggest bitch in the industry

kek, holofaggot seething, go ally with chink or something

>>27383033

If you are actually mad at this then you’re no better then the terminally online twitter fags

Boy oh boy I can't wait for nyanners, her boyfriend, mousey and connor to start appearing in all her streams even if they're meant to be solo streams! Maybe we'll even get to react to more youtube videos! Not like her english fans have ever wanted to actually get to know her!

>>27383185
you make that sounds like a bad thing anon, its good for the industry

>>27382960
So did she say anything political yet, or are you just speculating due to the behavior of a different branch?
Do you think she will immediately start spouting or will be obligated to spout political views because she joined this company?

The thing I'm most pissed about is her debut partner being an angel

>>27383253
>Do you think she will be obligated to spout political views because she joined this company?
Yes.

>>27383159
not mad, confused
things got so much better lately, collabs, 3d, super3d, event collabs, sponsors, everything seemed like smooth sailing from now on, and boom, this dropped.
Why? that's my only question.

>>27383253
body acceptance, soon it will be about sexuality though
no need to cope, vshoujo did it, nothing wrong with it

>>27383292
Wow. I can't imagine believing that, but I guess if I somehow did, I would be upset as well?
However, I don't.

>>27383312
>>27380916

>>27383215
>its good for the industry
i'm not the industry, it's bad for me personally

>>27383292
https://streamable.com/g1ecxx
https://streamable.com/38897c

>>27383185
It's mainly Mouse and Zentreya who collab alot. Mouse plans her collabs and Zen kidnaps smaller indies so nothing to worry about.

>>27383292
So you have unquestionable proof that members are forced or even contractually obligated to be political in order to remain in the company, even if they don't prefer to be political?

>>27383395
social /group pressure is a thing anon.

>>27383353
you need to accept it then

>>27355540

Vshoujo just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to watch any Vshoujo streams, nor will they purchase any superchats. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Vshoujo has alienated an entire market with this move.

Vshoujo, publicly apologize and cancel Mikeneko's hiring or you can kiss your business goodbye

>>27383215
>group reaction andy is good for the industry
Roru, rumao even

>>27383312
Most likely for better exposure, help with sponsors, merch assistance and oveall just help in general it ges pretty tiring doing everythinf yourself as a indie

>>27383287
yes, of course. because kanata invented being a flat chested and she invented being an angel too, right?

>>27382960
You clearly hate them and everything they hold dear, so again, you're doing the same fucking thing you accuse them of doing

>it's the bare minimum to have a functioning piece of entertainment

...I don't know how to break this to you gently anon
Maybe read a book
I can recommend Gulliver's Travels
Or Dante's Inferno
Or the fucking Epic of Gilgamesh

>>27383417
If that was a thing kson was susceptible to then she would've stayed in line with other holo members and played the part of a pure seiso formulaic idol instead of wanting to try new stuff to the point of quitting.

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxmH7rBklQDZtlknlyzns0fCMCfuad50wu

new public post (read the nihongo part)

>>27383395
Go on any of their Twitters and scroll back a bit. They're rife with woke politics, save maybe for Mouse.
>>27383327
Enjoy the time your naiveté buys you.

>>27383506
Of course not but she fucking lives with her

>>27381130
>Less difficulty getting sponsorships, working with services companies, etc
Is that really a thing with VShojo? They had the same fuckups as any indie could achieve, including the ones that would not happen to indies. I think starting a new LLC just for kson and her circle would have the same upsides and no downsides.

>>27383549
>nothing is going to change
>vshojo will get a cut on any sponsorship or merch deal
>nothing changing

>>27383549
>will never change
if nothing changes why did you join
wishful thinking, something will definitely chenge.

>>27383575
Kson also tweeted about politics before. You really should leave.

>>27383575
>save maybe for Mouse
If you admit there are exceptions, then why Kson couldn't be one too?

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1543528170296471552

>>27383657
>>27383653
shouldn't you faggots just make your own complain threads?

>>27383705
This has been my home over a year, I don't use the rest of the board

>>27383657
She means nothing will change with regards to the general nature of her content. What will most likely change is the logistics behind the operation and promotion of her channel and merchandise.

>>27383658
You keep saying this, but I haven't seen it. I'll admit I have not read each and every single tweet she made in the past year, and I only started following Kson a couple months before graduation.
>>27383665
Could she be an exception? I suppose that is technically a possibility. I don't believe it though.
Ironmouse has very unique circumstances, she is an anomaly.

>>27383809
Look up the katakana for trump and search for it, then fuck off.

>>27383837
This?
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/796212915070070785
One singular, very milquetoast tweet from 2016?
This is supposed to be your gotcha that she was always as bad as the whores?

I won't anti her, but I can't support her anymore, I guess I'm done with vtubers

>>27383966
nta but way to move those goalposts you disingenuous moron

>>27383966
>she better not get political or i'm gonna leave!
>everyone in the group has to be political except for the couple that aren't so this one definitely will be political
>she was political but it wasn't political enough for me so she isn't political
Literally take some medication.

>>27383809
>Ironmouse has very unique circumstances, she is an anomaly.
Kson being a primarily Japan-based vtuber where political speech is extremely uncommon and culturally discouraged is also under unique circumstances.

>>27384004
I've been specifically referring to woke politics.
A singular, mild "I don't like Trump" tweet a wokie does not make.

>>27384054
>>27384051
But if you're only complaining about woke politics and don't mind your own personal brand of politics turning up wherever, then you're a blatant hypocrite and nobody will miss you

>>27383993
She wasn't a vtuber after leaving Hololive in the first place.

>>27384054
So you don't care about politics, you are just an autist who will sperg if she shares an opinion you don't agree with. That's as bad as the chinamen. Please just stop watching her and go away.

>>27384143
I'd take issue with politics in general, though obviously my tolerance for my own politics is higher.
But again, it's a singular, very mild tweet from over half a decade ago.

Go back

>vshoujos clearly come to this place
I hope she never ever comes here

>>27379972
Hideo Koiima of petankos!

>>27384228
Whatever. You don't want to watch Kson because she's rubbing shoulders w/ wokies.
Most of the people arguing with you don't want you watching Kson because you're a schizo dipshit.
Win win.

>>27384178
Majority of her content still was, it was good enough for me

>>27381233
HOLY MOTHER OF CUTE

>>27383470
You obviously never understood Kson or her delinquent persona then, this thread is full of retarded tourists now I swear.
She has always, always made it clear she isn't into the extremely submissive side of jap culture or abandoning friends because society tells you to abandon them. She is about free expression even if it rubs uptight people the wrong way.
She's an anime protagonist irl, simple as that.

>>27383993
see you tomorrow, retard.

>>27383966
>https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/796212915070070785
Translation:
Trump's been trying to become president since I was little. All the comedy shows used to do skits about it. Surprised me the day came when the skits became real. Don't think I'll be voting for Trump.

Well, duh, you're in Japan, of course you aren't voting for Trump.

Yeah, this is pretty much a blase comment about it.
I don't think I will vote for Trump.

>>27383470
日本語は上手ですね

>>27384466
Citizens can vote from overseas.

>>27376256
>chink seething
I'm starting to like vshojo.

>>27384466
>She loves comedic skits since she was a kid
Cute. She's named after a comedt character after all

>>27384511
It's a hassle, and I suspect she doesn't really give a shit about politics all that much. I didn't vote for Trump either in 2016, but I changed my mind in 2020, so there you go.

I see the filtering is proceeding smoothly.

Has anyone that is happy about this even been around since before the graduation?

>>27384725
Yea, this is a large step towards her finally getting a solo live

>>27384725
Yeah

>>27384725
Yes, I have.

>>27384725
yeppers

>>27376256
gawd bless veeshoujou
FUCK U and never come back, chinks

>>27384725
been here since graduation. I don't give a fuck what she does, I just want a kson Nendroid.

>>27384725
Most that aren't already left when she started collabing with them and trash taste, I stuck around because I didn't think it'd become a permanent thing

Transporter watchalong tonight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9yK4TUBHw
well, important stream

>>27384725
I've been here since her debut as Coco.
I'm kinda confused, but if she's happy then I'm happy too.

>>27384725
I don't know if I'd say "happy" because currently more than anything it's just raising questions but I've also been paying attention to what she's been saying over the year about how she thinks people will be confused at first and how she'll explain with actions. Let's see where she's headed with this, I say.

>>27384725
I'm not happy so I'll stop all my spending, but I can't stop watching her

>>27384926
Why not put it in the slot of the watchalong? Souchou is still a dum-dum.

>>27384926
Her answers are all going to be that her content won't change but they'll help her with merch and sponsorships because she's been getting scammed. It's up to you if you think that's fine

>She won't any stream with vshoujo even though she physically close to them
Her membership seems pretty laid back since day one, that's a good sign. I could see a solo stream showing a little bit of LA though...

>>27384725
I'm not happy as in "jumping for joy", because I'm never someone who almost never gets hyped about anything in life. However, I am not bothered. I hope her content doesn't change, and hope this opens up new opportunities. I don't know if I like or dislike Vshoujo, but I like Kson and stay positive.
I was a huge Kaguya Luna fan in 2018, then ignored chuubas most of 2019. I found my way back via Coco's Yakuza 7 streams in early 2020.

>>27381233
Cute!!

>>27384843
And I want a Kson Fumo.

She could kill all her family live on stream and I would still support her.

>>27385154 (me)
>I'm never someone who almost never gets hyped about anything
*I'm never someone who gets hyped about anything

she didn't kneel when she was put under pressure by an entire country why do the tourists think that she'll kneel to a group of misfits? she has more power than some of the older members because she'll be daisenpai not only to their Japanese branch but to vshojo as a whole.

I want her to graduate in one year or two. Then join Nijisanji. She can be the first to collect the corpo Triforce

>>27384926
"For the culture of VTuber that I love, the world of VTuber. For the creators, the fans, so that everyone can smile!
That may be a beautiful thing.
If I become a delinquent in the VTuber association and make it happen , I will be the one to make it happen!
I'll only go on carrying the cheers and even the knife that stabs me in the back! So that's what it's all about.

I'd love it if you'd tweet me your thoughts on the feed using the tag #ksonONAIR!"

Say the video discription.

>>27382892
I hope she takes her opportunity during this coming trip, a romantic train date sounds like one of the best times to do so

Did she got any new R18 art?

>>27385274
>she has more power than some of the older members because she'll be daisenpai not only to their Japanese branch but to vshojo as a whole.
She probably had a lot of say in the other JP hire and will be influential in who else is hired as well on the JP side of things. All the benefits that come from the company without much of any managerial interference or a huge cut of her earnings taken like at her old job.

>>27386008
The retards on /aco/ will probably feel obligated to since they literally only follow vshitshow and nothing else.

>>27385127
she's joining AS kson, that's the weird part.
Holo would never allow this again, Suichan is the only one left who can just join WITH her own character and by that all the rights to that character design and lore.
So kson will stay kson even if she breaks up with that company, I don't even know if VS realizes that. kson got them by the balls to do her bidding, if they're fine with that (I imagine they are, "you wanna build us JP and know some former huge streamers? You're welcome, go ahead lol")
Basically for kson this is just her fapping to her dream of building up her own branch of rejects making mad dosh. I don't even think she has to care about the rest of VS much at all.
If she pulls in Pikamee we riot, Gyari did nothing wrong.

>>27386142
>I don't even know if VS realizes that
The people who operate the business definitely realize that, and accept this risk profile.

So is she going to acknowledge that she went back in her word about not joining another company? I'm curious how much money Vshoujo paid them to join.

>>27383470
Go back to ResetEra or NeoGAF you faggot. You fuckers are not welcome here.

>Stream at 22:00
>The stream will start at 08:00 in my country
>But my country is 13 hours behind japan hours...
Did she made a mistake? I doubt it's 22:00 on LA

>>27386142
>Holo would never allow this again
Hololive follows a completely different business model. In the end Hololive follows the Japanese model of how talent agencies work.

In essence I think this difference comes from one being from a groupist society and one from an individualist society.
In Hololive for example the talent is contracted be the actor for the VTuber belonging to the agency. Suisei is an exception.
In VShojo the agency is contracted to provide management/support/etc services to the VTuber.

These are two very different business models. VShojo's business model is also not new for western standards.

>threesome with two angels
all according to plan

she spent 10000$ on gucci and 100 000$ for her 3D. in her birthday stream, she received so many gifts it took an endurance stream to open them all.
she's already too rich.

>>27387654

>>27386609
Why don't you ask her that in twitter? She's taking questions now after all.

wdsdib?

>>27386609
rushia's shit is funny bc she got her new model for free and streamed with it a handful of times and throws it away for that newer model

So do you think vshojo will kson a holo collab

yesterday I saw one Anon from New Zealand trying to buy a Coco hoodie from an EU Anon presumably because he said the price of it in Euros [/spoiled]
I do wonder how did the deal went because the thread in which they were discussing got archived before they could arrange the deal.

>>27388211
fuck autocorrect

>>27388147
cover will blacklist all of them bc of rushia being hired there now

rarbg k71uioh for watch along

>>27388336
Highly doubt it, there’s multiple confirmedholo collabs upcoming

>>27388249
You might say it "spoiled" your post?

>>27388458
>he's never seen cancellations and talents passive aggressive zatsus after when upper management saves them from themselves

>>27388420
tyvm

>>27388537
kek

>>27389157
Oh that's pretty!

ngl I'd be more okay with vshojo if vei wasn't such a cunt

>>27389157
KAKKOI
>>27389204
kekkoi

>>27389157
That's pretty rad.

>>27389229
wrong thread. vshojo thread is right here >>27376004

I have never watched Transporter before is it good?

>>27390145
same
we'll find out if its good when we watch it

>>27390145
If you are talking about that Jason Statham action movie, It is a decent popcorn flick.

>>27390145
Not really

>>27390279
>>27390145
I love it as a kid but I was watching the first 15 minutes and looked kinda edgy. But it has good fighting scenes and car persecutions so you'l prolly enjoy it

>>27390145
idk if it is good but it is definitely a cool movie my opinion is biased because I have seen it quite a lot of times during my childhood

>>27390145
Is she doing a watchalong today?

>>27390770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doO1OCFPCyI

>>27383470
Stop typing, incel. You’re not a serious person.

>>27389610
Lol this is the vshojo thread now

kson bebi

coco bebi

>>27390803
sanq

>>27390907
>>27390998
Bebi kyuuto!

>>27390891
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1543368142121906176?t=0caM-NWjpCWUCLnSqkGykA&s=19