/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>66,433: Subaru (Hololive)
>64,120: Marine (Hololive)
>62,797: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>58,571: Salome (Nijisanji)
>43,202: Salome (Nijisanji)
>39,492: Pekora (Hololive)
>31,571: Ars (Nijisanji)
>28,799: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,988: Ina (Hololive)
>20,406: Shion (Hololive)
>19,326: Korone (Hololive)
>15,695: Uki (Nijisanji)
>15,034: Nerumero (Indie)
>13,910: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,892: Asumi (VSPO)
>13,598: Kobo (Hololive)
>11,738: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,655: Vox (Nijisanji)
>11,528: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,332: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,194: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,739: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>10,737: Kanae (Nijisanji)

Vshojo is going to incline hard this year. Kson and Mikeneko are huge gets for them.

R

A

>>27346724
>and the other streams an hour more of superchat readings, they would have the eaxct same median peak, but the one that read superchats would have a lower average viewers
And rightfully so.

> So their comparable popularity
Average CCV, median of peak CCV or any of those metrics are definitely *NOT* a measure of "popularity", they're a measure of CCV.
Popularity is something that is not even defined and, if it was, it would be 100% a subjective metric.

As a counterpoint to the CCV = popularity, you can't possibly say Virtual Obaachan is more popular than Sora, Hoshikawa or Patra but she consistently outranks the three in this metric

A

>>27346982
>JULY 2022 GOLD
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - Holocure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday Festival

>PER COMPANY
2x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Miko, Subaru

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
120x: Hololive
53x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

P

>>27346160
Nijien would be bigger than vshojo if they actually started trimming the fat and release the female talents

These Vshojo posts are making me lose brain cells. Gonna enjoy shitposting about their numbers, though.

>>27346985
>4k average
>Most hated Vtubers in Japan
About that...

>>27345765
to the replies, twitch ccv isnt culled like youtube's, many of them still get beaten by NijiEN

>>27346887
June superchats
>>27236137 :: Hololive
>>27236180 :: Nijisanji
>>27236227 :: Indie/Other


>>27226940 :: NijiEN girls

>>27346985
>3.5k - 5k average
i mean they could incline to a modest 8k-10k and thats if miguel doesnt self destruct

>>27347142
Here's a starting point, their averages and the comparison head to head with NijiEN and HoloEN
>pic related

Notice that this is comparing Twitch with Youtube and they don't count CCV the same so consider this merely a starting point for future comparison using the same metrics and their flaws

>>27347150
>kson
>hated in japan

>>27347150
nice try zhang

>>27347237
since Vwhorejo isn't a threat to Cover we could have a collab with Marin and noRushia right?

>>27347142
This is honestly eye opening for me since i never knew that nijien had worse numbers than vshojo

>>27347288
retarded anon

>>27347237
The top 3 average 8k? Huh, I get ironmouse but all I see about veibae and nyanners on the catalogue are about their recline

>>27346985
>stream on twitch
>in japan
>for former YT streamers
abayo, nambas!

>>27347236
>a modest 8k-10k
Anon, there are only 12 tracked non Holo vtubers on Youtube with a 8k+ average.in June and only 2 are not from Nijisanji.

8k average is HUGE, there is a reasno Ironmouse, Veibae and Nyanners are talked in the same context as Hololive as they're absolutely the top of the top of the Twitch streamers numberwise.

>>27346887
Recent clip numbers

>>27299179
>>27300271
>>27300313
>>27300641

>>27347393
NotRushia is still radioactive for cover

>>27347393
>collabing with the doxxleaker backstabbing menhera

>>27346985
Even if the mikeneko rrat's true, no high profile JP chuuba will want to collab with her, not even nijis, and no JP company will sponsor her. If you're known as a bitch who get fired in JP, you will never get to work with another JP company again. She'll be stuck collabing with vshojoen whores who don't understand her and kson.

>>27347416
>all I see about veibae and nyanners on the catalogue are about their recline
Nyanners average in January was 11k, she reclined hard

>>27347458
Yes and Youtube gets anywhere from 10-40 percent less CCV then twitch which is why people don't really care about twitch numbers except versus other twitch numbers.

>>27347397
I mean aside from the top 3 vwhorejos and the top nijicns they’re comparable. Pointless to say who outdoes the other when it’s Twitch CCV vs YT CCV, though I suspect Twitch CCV >> YT CCV giving the nijien a fighting chance.

>>27347393
>allowing your employees to interact in a professional context with people you fired for cause
Not even if they were janitorial staff in some countryside school

>>27347416
They used to be 11k chuubas before their boyfriend yabs. Ironlung was 11k too during the subathon month which is when vshojokeks were flooding this thread

>>27347458
>8k is huge
>8k on fucking Twitch, which counts a viewer if you do much as sneeze in their direction
lol

>>27347458
Gatchaman being the only Indie showing up there on these is kinda impressive but then I remember the guy has been around since 2012 and his other channel for let's plays got to 1M subs been a while.

>>27347663
Miko streamed on Twitch and averaged like 10k

>>27347288
>>27347333
Niggers, i hate zhangs probably more than anybody else in this board, Rushia is the most hated by far without any discussion and Kson is on her way to lose most of the remaining tatsunokos that stayed with her because of her past life because many of them feel betrayed

>>27347590
While that's true that only reinforces the argument being made as it would at best depress the VShojo numbers if they were calculated the same way Youtube does, meaning this table is the absolute best case scenario for them

>>27347458
Jesas, talk about powergaps. Holo numberrot is doing a number on me.

>>27347683
He's also part of the Tamaki box and I believe he's the only boy not from stars (maybe even counting them?) ever to have a collab on Sora channel, to show how much clout he has with the scene

>>27347730
It means vshojo would be slightly more popular then NijiEN females in youtube metrics. They would only show up in top 10k for event streams if that.

>>27347701
>Literally only watchalongs
At least let's pretend to not be fucking retarded, and in case you are, just stfu and lurk

>>27347609
>they’re comparable
not when half your talent is doing worse than a mid-tier streamer by vshojo standards like zentraya and silvervale.

Nijisanji slipped?

>>27347913
numbers is numbers

I mean most of the western world knows vshojo more than hololive. Hololive are popular with nerds and otakus while vshojo are more in the know with the normies.

How do we compare YT and Twitch numbers?

>>27348018
roru
rumao

>>27347979
Numbers w/o context is retarded

>>27347925
They’re in the ballpark, plus see the part about Twitch CCV vs YT CCV.

>>27348054
we cant
unless kson will stream regularly on yt and not on twitch
notmiguel is doesnt seem to have a yt account

>>27348018
>vwhorejo booth vs hololive booth
>vwhorejo panel

>>27348018
>most of the western world knows vshojo more than hololive
Nigger please

>>27347393
No because the legal dispute between My Cat and Cover is still fresh.

>>27348018
anon pls even nijien is more popular than vshowho

>>27347237
>>27347458
Here is another comparison, again taking in consideration Twitch and Youtube DO NOT have the same way to calculate CCV
>pic related

1) VShojo top 3 would be mid tier on Hololive, between Noel and Towa
2) Zentreya would be around Sora, trailing Matsuri
3) The other 3 girls would be midtier on NijiID, trailing Moona but outranking Zeta and Kaela

Any chance Vshojo overtakes VSPO?

>>27348469
Depends on who their other talents are or if they will be streaming on yt

>>27348459
>midtier on NijiID
midtier on HoloID, I surely meant

>Susan’s new $30 mil boytoy is still a chumpedo
>He was the one that negotiated with Susan to cull her less
Was he the reason for Gura’s comeback???

>>27348469
They already have, VSPO averages 3-4k on Twitch

Salome’s view farms couldnt keep up with Marine. Not even the graduate could get silver LOL

>>27348541
4k would put them ahead of half VShojo

>>27348323
>>27348267
>>27348225
Here some evidence since you guys doubt me. Here an image of the streamer award for best vtuber Hololive or Nijisanji nowhere. This award show had over 100k people watching so it's the real deal. In the western world vshojo is more well know.

>>27348581
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

>>27348611
Didn't CodeMiko won that?

>>27348611
ARE YOU A FUCKING NIJINIGGER TO ARGUE IN SUCH POOR FAITH? THIS WAS AN AWARD FOR TWITCH STREAMER YOU MORON
NO YOUTUBE STREAMER WAS ON IT

>>27348018
Twitch=/= the whole world. Despite Twitch huffing their own farts due to living in their own bubble Hololive in general is more well known just based on sheer raw numbers. I'm not just talking CCV I mean actual collective numbers at out.

>>27348611
sure thing, ESLchama.

>>27348527
Why doesn't Hololive negotiate an exclusive deal with Youtube?

>>27348690
When in doubt

>>27348733
Because they're not dumb. Imagine not being able to stream their paid lives on SPWN or NicoNico

VSJ GOLD
>VSJ GOLD
VSJ GOLD
>VSJ GOLD

>>27348527
Although he is a big fan it would be silly to think that ever came up in discussion.

>>27348733
Google knows JP companies without big international offices are exploitable and slow and just push them around.

>>27348611
And yet they lost to a 2k ccv streamer who doesnt even use her vtuber avatar 50% of the time. Imagine getting included and then mogged lmao

>>27348611
>twtich awards
ruru rumao

>>27348774
Alright you got me there

>>27348611
The funiest thing about this is that they all lost to fucking codemiko.

>>27348611
>muh streamer awards
It’s this retard again lol. Genuinely keep posting your cope/bait whatever it is, this thread is boring without it and at least it’s something new. I’ll give you more (You)s in exchange.

>>27348611
Ah yes the Awards that only took place on Twitch and only featured Twitch Vtubers. To which Vshojo lost out to CodeMiko so even by your own argument Vshojo isn't even the top in Twitch it's CodeMiko.

>>27348611
That is a bullshit award and Gura is the most famous western vtuber but on Twitch with all the other big streamers? Overall I think Vshojo is easily as famous as the rest of HoloEN. Ironmouses massive subathon put a lot of attention on them. If Qxc or Ludwig or Asmongold or any of the other big twitchstreamers gets a question about vtubers they instantly go to Ironmouse, not Kiara for example

>>27348733
Why?

>>27348527
meds

>>27348801
CodeMiko is only a 2k shitter? I always assumed she was bigger because YT keeps recommending clips of her to me.

>>27348611
>100k
>event dedicated to and featuring every big streamer on the platform
Gura literally got over 190k for her first outfit. Tell me the last time a Vshitjo solo stream ever got above 35-40k.

>>27348527
he's cute, I wonder if hes dating gura irl

>>27348856
Well it’s not like Gura would respond to them anyways

>>27348611
>Streamer awards organized and hosted by the biggests circlejerkers of twtich
DYRBI ?

Update on the numbers for Anycolor’s stock price?

>>27348999
her gf moggs irl gura

>>27348611
this is in such bad fate and good bait. this was a TWITCH ONLY award faggot. those bitches from vshojo didn't even win and lost to CodeMiko

>>27348852
wasn't ash the top twitch vtuber? even above codemiko.

>>27348965
She has clips? Anon tf kind of content do you watch to get recommended shit from that thing?

>>27348856
Isn't that also up for debate because basically every top gaming streamer knows Gura by name just for the sheer fact that Forsen gets memed as her a lot.

>>27349085
yt algo has been on the fritz lately due to susan and pajeet repair shenanigans

>>27349044
market is closed for the weekend, but we might get another -17 day on monday thanks to the mayuzumi thing.

>>27349044
>Update on the numbers for Anycolor’s stock price?
Pink Wojak territory

>>27349044
Weekend so market is closed. It looks pretty bad though.

>>27349062
and not to forget it was FAN voted. so fans love codemiko more than vwhores which makes it 10x funnier

Every. Single. Time

Houshou Marine, Tokoyami Towa, Watson Amelia, Mori Calliope, Kureiji Ollie, Hakos Baelz COME HOME

Here's your team, /#/
For coding reasons the team is named /numbers/ in the wiki (the page wouldn't accept # as a valid character), but the rest is there. I'll update it in the coming days and get started on making the 3d assets.
Abayo

Wiki page
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//numbers
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//numbers
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//numbers

>>27349057
How small is she?

>>27349216
dont care didnt ask

stop replying to the vshojo schizo

>>27349172
>implying the investors watch streams when there’s faggots here who don’t even do that

the only reason holobronies are even upset about kson is because they're realizing that anyone in hololive can just quit, redebut a year later, and still have a wildly successful career (probably even more successful than in hololive). they're afraid of their oishis being treated better and being able to act like themselves, because they don't want the talents to be themselves, they want the GFE
kson's redebut and signing with vshojo is already making huge waves. no doubt all the talents at cover and nijisanji are aware of this. this is the perfect time for them to demand more freedom or jump ship to a good corp like vshojo

>>27349216
gambare anon all your efforts will be worth when the team generates some seethe on game day.

>>27349172
>-17 day on monday thanks to the mayuzumi thing.
Oh, yeah, isn't that one of he things they had on their IPO report?
>50% of our revenue comes from our top 25 talent
They wrote it "the other way around", implying "only 50% of our revenue" and highlighting that the other 125 streamers would keep pumping revenue but, unfortunately for them, they ended up losing one of the top 25.

>>27349283
Remains to be seen that vwhorjo twitter brigade won't cannibalize Rushia for being a loli model and playing lewd for her fans.

>>27349283
Anon, kson redebuted right away and got her channel to 1M almost immediately as well. What are you even talking about?

>>27349197
Hey, I’m replying because his schizo posts are s breath of fresh air. Plus what else is there to talk about. All this talk of VShoujo JP is pure speculation anyways until they have something to show for it.

>>27349283
But luxiem mogs vshojo though? why would they transfer?

>>27349199
>Towa
>Mori
Unless Vshojo can actually contribute to their music careers than fat chance. Also Bae sure as shit ain't leaving now that she's in the same company as her Oshi.

Can't believe that the vshojo schizo came back after all this time. Pretty nostalgic i should say.

>>27349391
It's the same general shitposter anon, the one shitposting with Salome not a week ago.

>>27349199
>Bae
>leaving roberu
ruru rumao

>>27349370
Yeh, but they'll take it to miles if you keep replying

nah it's not the same schizo
last night we had various attempts at schizo larping

>>27349364
> redebut and signing with vshojo
her redebut as an indie showed that you can make it on your own for at least a year (so that cover's NDA ends), her signing with vshojo showed that once you've carved a large enough fanbase from hololive, you can leave and keep most of them intact
viewers are loyal to their oishis, not companies. if gura left hololive and joined vshojo, i guarantee you most of her chumps would follow her

>>27349391
its pic related schizo

>>27349190
no its worse than that. they spite voted AGAINST vshojo

>>27349447
Idk, they literally brought up the fucking twitch vtuber awards.

How will the "Orca" respond to this?
Is he stuck in a perpetual loop of Miguel cuckery?
Or will he keep simping for her?

I think this is worse than being stuck on 7th circle of hell

This vshojo thing is going to be a fun trainwreck. The next few months should be exciting.

How much does kson actually average when she's on twitch? I know she streams there sometimes but how does her average compare to her yt average?

>>27349262
Yeah they obviously look at Niji having no booths, merch selling poorly, and Salome getting 3rd place.

>>27348527
Hey its bloop irl

>>27349700
Orca will kill himself the moment miguel collabs with connor
Remember miguel was thirsty for the foreigner dick lately

can mike new channel beat her mike channel tho?

damn, kson really left and lied just to be in a corpo that lets her do reaction streams, the laziest form of content, sad

>>27349846
i dont think so seeing as only her most loyal deadbeat and gachikois followed her and they might not crossover to vshojo or twitch

>>27349893
She realized that being an indie was harder than she though. Im honestly just waiting for the fireworks once notrushia goes menhara again

>>27345149
Please win for us, PESSI!
https://youtu.be/hIiqe_ZGTeY?t=7414

>Vshojo plans big announcement for AX
>Announcement time!!
>Check out these literal Hololive rejects
My how the mighty have fallen. Remember when Vshojo was considered a threat? Now they are picking up rejects off the trash heap.

>>27349960
>loyal deadbeat

>>27349578
>once you've carved a large enough fanbase from hololive, you can leave and keep most of them intact
Unless you are using an exoteric meaning of the word "most", kson already proved that wrong
Her current average is between Polka and Aki, outranking this last one by very little.
>Aki

>>27349960(me)
>>27350070
and i use deadbeats as the literal term and not the mori fanbase

>>27349199
you can have them all except twap...

>>27349578
>>27350096
As for Superchat, in the month of her 3D debut she barely beat Mio and trailed Lui (which also had her 3D debut this month).

>>27349199
you dare take away more of her friends?

>>27349700
He will send her a few 200bits on twitch here and there.

>>27349199
>Mori
You have more chances of getting all of the talents going over to vshojo than mori going over there since she is married by cover due to her deal with umg and umg would literally curbstomp vshojo if they tried

>>27350096
>>27350180
Here is for comparison: in the month of her 3D debut as Coco she made north of 250k USD. In the month of her 3D debut as kson she made 57k

Even if you half her prev number (Cover cut) she would still be losing half her revenue

>>27350180
? keeping 5.6k loyal fans is incredibly good, considering that i'm sure when she was coco she had a ton of hololive tourists who only watched her because no one else was streaming
also your second post proves my point. $54k in one month? 8th most superchatted in all youtube? as an indie? hell yes i'm taking that deal

>>27349199
Don't forget Haachama

>>27350370
Did you know that a streamer with the viewers that Coco had could get way more than $58k for a single sponsorship?

>>27350356
Whats her sc when it wasnt her bday month?

>>27346982
Graduation buff beaten lol rumao!

>>27350562
anon pls laughing at the 4th biggest vtuber company is just sad

>>27350408
that's a lot of subscriptores.

Selling xbox in japan i c.

>>27350498
never

>>27350510
Anon... read the graph again...

>>27350697
no for kson i mean since im guessing your the same guy as this >>27350180

>>27350656
Vshojo is too woke for japanese otaku culture. Why not get gibara or lulu?

>>27350356
>$54k in one month?
Anon, see >>27350356, in her WORST month after monetization she made more than 57k USD.
There is a reason she gone back to corporate: the cost of management greatly surpassed the cut she had to pay Cover to make it happen for her. She quite literally took a (huge) pay cut to leave.

>keeping 5.6k loyal fans is incredibly good,
I assume you realize kson started streaming way before Coco and never really closed that account.

If the highest superchatted and fastest JP chuuba to 1M subs and one time highest ranked in peak CCV can only get a 6k average as an indie imagine all of the girls trailing her in every metric, and that are drowning in opportunities with zero hassle right now on Hololive.

Some anon posted last thread or the other: Aki sold 163k USD in birthday merch during the period it was possible to check that value.
The bulk of profit of that sale will go straight to her, no cuts from Susan and very little cut from Cover themselves (in comparison with 50% from SC).
I sincerely don't think Aki would pass on that deal to risk as an indie

Sorry for being a slowpoke, but I just notice Lady Salome. Watched some of her content as I was recommended. She was sold to me as a "ojou-like" character. But from what I can see all she did was repeating desuwa and speaking "elegantly" but beneath all her act I can still feel the disgusting heimin vibe from her. She doesn't have the snobbiness or the nonchalant attitude like real richfags. Beyond her kayfabe there is literally no unique content compared to other streamers, so what gives? Why can she reach 1M is such a short time? Is she still growing as fast now?

>>27350776
>no for kson i mean
82k USD

>>27350906
If you watched her most recent stream her kayfabe is slipping a little as she (and the audience) grows tired of it
> so what gives?
>Why can she reach 1M is such a short time? Nobody knows

>Is she still growing as fast now?
Nope

>>27349755
She got 4th though?

>>27350916
cool can you provide the months until june 2022? im genuinely curious of her sc rate as kson

>>27351001
lrn2playboard

Start here
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-japan-monthly?period=1654041600

Then move backwards. Just scroll the list, kson is usually in the top 20

>>27350906
I feel really bad for Salome. She was a solo debut, meaning all the attention, pressure, and expectations are on her. Nijisanji made it a huge deal to get her to one million subs (a play off her name) and they did in record time. But now you have a streamer who may not have ever been live for audiences of 1k, let alone 50k+ (not sure what her previous identity was, but I'm guessing she wasn't as big as she is now) being forced to act in a way that the Nijisanji data and analytics team has determined would be the most effective in driving profit. I wonder how much of Salome is really there when she streams

>>27351102
Its Debi

>>27351102
They can just replace the VA

>>27351102
if all else fails, they can just graduate her.

>>27351102
>feeling bad for 1M chuuba
feel bad for Aki instead, she will never hit 1M subs

>>27351092
thanks

>>27351155
I legitimately do not know who that is

>>27351213
I thought more about Mito here. Five years in the grind and she'll not get to 1M before Vox, Kobo and maybe even Aki

>>27350978
As I said her kayfabe doesn't capture the soul of a real rich person, so it doesn't work for me, not sure why people liked that. One more thing to mention is that a lot of her vids are way past 1M mark, which is very unusual for a vtuber (Pekora for example consistently get 300k+ views on a random stream with 1.94M subs). Did she hit it because her channel was viral in Japan normie circles or something?

>>27351102
She didn't have audiences as big as that on her previous identity. You can check for yourself via playboard.

https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCjlmCrq4TP1I4xguOtJ-31w

>>27351332
Most of her streams are 1hr max. It's much more digestible content for VOD viewers than say a 12hr endurance stream

Btw, Gura ticked up again. Can she do 80k?

>>27351346
Man i thought for sure salome was gilzaren with a voice changer

>>27351332
>As I said her kayfabe doesn't capture the soul of a real rich person, so it doesn't work for me, not sure why people liked that.
Her "lore" is of a regular woman pretending to be an ojousama.
It's a lot like Aqua sucking at being a maid or Marine being a cosplay pirate.
The problem, and even nips acknowledge that, is that you can't keep crutch forever as both the streamer and the audience will grow tired of it

>Did she hit it because her channel was viral in Japan normie circles or something?
There is no other explanation but evidence is scarce other than the result of it itself

>>27351395
Is Gura inclining again? Her CCV rose up unrelated to the BD streams, subs are ramping up again despite no streams.

>>27351346
Wait, she's streaming on two different personas? That's crazy. I would go mental trying to switch personalities all the time

>>27351297
Mito's in the middle of a menhera breakdown, isn't she? She might be next on the chopping block after the troon.

I haven't streamed in weeks and I think Gura is going to cancel her membership. Doushio

Here is a number to keep an eye at

>>27351517
clips

>>27351387
Yeah but it is not usual to have view counts>sub counts.

>>27351346
goes to show you, if you want an audience, pick an actual human figure. animals won't get you very far.

>>27351575
First step: lay off the booze and double check your sentences

>>27351554
Nah not even nijisanji management is that stupid

>>27351583
Thanks, unsubbed.

>>27351638
Anon pls forgive mori

>>27351605
Regardless of how you feel about Salome, her rise to 1M (and now 2M) subs was meteoric and practically had the entire japanese scene world entranced. I'm sure a lot of people tuned in to see what hype was about during livestreams, then dipped out after a bit

>>27351714
>and now 2M
she won't hit 2M any time soon, anon.

Roberu is a good pal, lending his girls to try to incline Aruran!

>>27351714
>and now 2M
Don't get ahead of yourself, niji

>>27351524
Which is why you have Noel smashing keyboard, Kiara eating cake, and Matsuri playing Tom and jerry happened.

>>27351767
>roberu is now pimping his friends
roberu...

>>27351767
“girls”

>>27351238
Another nijisanji talents.
Her vtuber form is furry wet dream.

>>27351714
>and now 2M
For the record Kobo is now picking up more subs per week than Salome.

She was already almost matching Salome subs growth in that week she was out (40k vs 36k that week) but with her return and her 56k in the past 7 days she's not only ahead but eating away the lead from Salome in the same way she did with Vox.

/#/ is reclining.

>>27351903
was that the dog one?

The begging has begun.

Would you say Vshojo can compete with Holo or Niji?

>>27352173
What's the appeal of Kobo? I am not into ID. The only ID I barely watched was Moona and Ollie, dropped Ollie after she was fingered by her BF on stream.

>>27352235
neither

>>27352270
>What's the appeal of Kobo?
She knows the "chum jar" memes, except local from Indonesia

>>27352235
If they also grab aloe, maybe some other yab machines and completely play into the anti-holo angle to generate buzz and Kson actually makes some kino. But that's probably not gonna happen they will just stay mid tier 4 view streamers coasting on twitch.

>>27352212
Why o why all these ppl always bringing up hololive, nijikeks being the massive culprit. We holochads don't care about your chuubas.

>>27352235
in youtube? no
in twitch? maybe
>>27352270
her appeal is basically id salome where you cant understand the appeal unless your id same way you cant understand salome appeal unless your jp based on what anons who watch her told me

>>27352270
kobo filters all but the highest test indochads.

>>27352212
Holo girls had several collabs with VShojo by now but Veibae is still in the shitlist and so is Melody

>>27352235
No for both on Youtube, yes for both on twitch as they already do

>>27352270
>Blue
>Cunny
>Sings
>Knows Memes
>Decently funny in most game streams

Literally just Indonesia's Gura.

>>27352346
>wolf warrios and aloe antis will now spam and attack vshojo
I wish them the best of luck, at least fubukis streams wont be as spammed anymore since the wolf warriors found out that kson joined a corpo

>>27352197
Koala.
I actually forgot about the dog.
My bad....

>>27352212
Anyone have that begging pic?

>>27352407
Is she alcoholic or former alcoholic too?

>>27352624
>Indonesia

anon your history reps...

Jesas I jwu. Have the threads been comfy because everyone is setting the catalog on fire or have we been getting schizos too?

>>27352346
>Aloe
>joining any group
Lmao. I am in her fanbox. She feels like a an introvert worse than Aqua due to not having friends.

>>27352452
The Zhangs are still in Fubuki's chat? It's been 1 year right?

>>27352624
>alcohol
anon history reps

>>27352624
She's literally a child

>>27352695
>hololive le bad
Just the usual

>>27352698
Kson could certainly still try to saviorfag her but I don't really know how she felt about coco and I know she is even more menhera than mike. Still I think it would probably be an improvement for her.

>>27352698
>due to not having friends.
she has me

>>27349700
Orca is now a simp for Chloe. He fucking Akas her every stream, it's crazy

not Rushia collab with 4 holo gen 3 members. number predict??

>>27352624
as far as i know, moona is the only holoID to ever touch alcohol.

>>27352212
The only one being able to collab with Holo is Ironmouse because of her show (even though just sucking each other's dick for 3-4 hours)
>Nyanners
depends if she behave or not
>Veibae
99.9% dead (0.01% is kneeling to Hololive and apologizing )
>Silvervale
If she behave
>Zen
Ollie most likely
>Froot
Who ?
>Hime
>Hime
>Kson
Only with holoEn she did not collab with before
>NotMichael
Cover would never

>>27352695
we still got the same schizo (noor) but she's been trying new personas and baits lately
>>27352698
>The Zhangs are still in Fubuki's chat? It's been 1 year right?
Yeah they still spam her chat with nonsense words from time to time but with the news of kson joining another corpo they might make her target number 1 again

>>27352844
0

>>27347555
nobody likes a sellout cunt. there was a time when she had chan culture by the balls and threw it away for fake social justice clout, then the real mesugakis cashed in.

ok its been about holo transfer to vshojo and all, but will ex niji join?
Lulu come back pls

>>27353106
Vspo

Wait so how are they gonna separate VshojoEN from VshojoJP? Since a number of their EN fans are anti-loli? cause if theyre gonna do jp content loli will surely pop up sooner or later

>>27352862
>Only with holoEn she did not collab with before
>gura and ame?
lol there's no way.
>council?
maybe

>>27352862
>>27353188
i mean gura and ina

>>27352869
>Yeah they still spam her chat with nonsense words from time to time but with the news of kson joining another corpo they might make her target number 1 again
The zhangs might lay off of Hololive now that they see that Kson essentially stabbed them in the back after saying she'd never join another corpo again. Like you said, though; it might be open-season on Vshojo.

Why do people think that Kson joining Vshojo is a step further into collabing with Hololive members? It's not like they can't collab with indies, in any case it would be quite the opposite since they don't want to give attention to a potential rival corpo

>>27352695
every thread i click on i see a familiar typing style spamming shit about hololive bad so i guess they are just busy. sometimes i wonder how much of their life they dedicate to being a holo anti, must be exhausting

>>27352869
Why aren't the Zhangs tired of what they are doing? I admire their dedication but they should put their energy into something useful and join the involution.

>>27352819
I don't agree that Aloe is more menhera than Mike. That said I want Kson to stay out of her life.

>>27352869
>>27353246
who gives a fuck about kson? fubuki still needs to graduate, it's possible kson gets more spam but fubuki doesn''t get off the hook for this lmao. and now she should get hate from hololive fans too because she protected coco instead of letting her get fired

>>27353246
god, i hope so.

>>27353341
go back zhang

>>27352862
>nyanners
Would she associate herself with Holo, ever? Especially when Gura is in Holo? Plus wouldn’t her fans throw a shitfit over it? All I know is they’re Holoantis supposedly. Someone do their gracious deed of the day and inform the uninformed お願い

>>27353246
I mean some of the zhangs that were her were already trying to shill china was right
I feel that Vshojo is gonna get worse spam since the only thing those wolf warriors hate more than hololive is america

>27353341
Terrible, terrible bait
But have some (You)
Nope

>>27353270
If anything, Kson and mikecat joining Vshojo will essentially kill any official Vshojo/Hololive collabs. The Hololive girls will have to make due with collabing with them outside of Hololive like some of the girls have done in the past.

>>27353392
why does nyanners hate the shark? is it a success breeds jealousy thing?

>>27353392
She collabed with Kiara

>>27353341
zhangchama it's been over a year. (you) need to get over it and find a life. That or buy a trafficked underage girl to chain up in your room because all the women belong to the fat old party members.

>>27352845
Not using alcohol to clean your hand is secret behind never ending corona.

>>27353392
It already happened with Kiara but only because veibae was a dumb bitch
>>27353240
gura and ina are in their own world I have a hard time finding a good match for collab other than Iron Mouse show

Kek i cant believe kson actually join vshojo. Guess the anon who spammin yesterday was right

>>27352212
If the rrats are true about the other new Vshitshow member than they are blacklisted from ever collabing with Hololive. Keep begging Vshit fags.

>>27353392
>Would she associate herself with Holo, ever? Especially when Gura is in Holo
Wait is the rrat about pre-gura and nyanners having a bad past real?

>>27353496
I mean I don’t she she hates her, or at least I wouldn’t know if she does, but Gura is her antithesis. She’s basically everything nyanners says is bad (but does hypocritically anyways) and is proud about what she does.
>>27353512
Ah right, I forgot about that. Never watched it and never cared, people said she was really nervous though.

# Bros why is that everyone always compares their chuubas with Hololive? Is it because Hololive has set the standards for vtubing? Is hololive really this influential where people judge a company/talent's by comparing them to Hololive?

>>27353666
Thank you
Ive been spamming it for weeks but people called me crazy even though its the most logical choice for kson
Ive been also selling the rrat that mike only released that legal statement because some corpo had picked her up but people called me insane
I wish i could grudgepost all those niggas

>>27352407
>Cunny
she is taller than ame

Here is an update on the 30 days median of peak CCV chart.
First: HoloJP, they camped above the 10k median line and refuse to come down.

>>27353719
nyanners hates sharks?

>>27353693
Jealousy. Pre-Gura basically took Nyanners schtick and did it much better. Then Post-Gura followed in Nyanners footsteps and blew her the fuck out again.

>>27347493
yea I really don't see where vshojo is going with this unless they will stay pure streaming forever, bringing in miguel is essentially saying they don't value the contracts they write, cause clearly they are just fine hiring contract breakers. Who is going to trust them? This is Japan, not some woke central shit.

>>27353722
It is the standard probably because being a hololive is pretty much a guaranteed success, for females at least. Just looking at the ID sword-loli. She is bland and uninteresting but still got decent amount of subs.

>>27353838
I can’t say if she does, I can only say that Gura is the opposite of what Nyanners says she’s for and that Gura is proud of that. Any more than that is purely fanfiction.

>>27353872
>Pre-Gura basically took Nyanners schtick and did it much better.
so the rrats were true kek I wonder if the rrats about how they supposedly had a verbal catfight because they ran each other on a con once is also true

>>27353826
You should've anon.. you should have..

Going off the fact that /vt/ is never right about anything, as proven by how it was continuously argued that there was no way Vshoujo would hire Mike and no way Kson would join another corpo, I'm willing to bet my balls that you guys are also wrong about Cover still having tension with Mike

Here's a counterrat, likely not true but it's the opposite narrative to what's being pushed: Cover and Vshoujo, or really maybe just Kson and some of her friends in Hololive, have decided that they're going to avoid competing over the same markets by streaming on different platforms so they can collab and incline off of each other without fighting over the same viewers

Hololive takes youtube like they have been doing, mostly gives up on Twitch where Vshoujo will grow most of its audience. The advent of EN 3 and VshoujoJP will represent the beginning of an alliance between these companies to punch down on NijiEN. HomoEN won't collab with the Hololive girls...They'll do what Roberu did, and put themselves in the VshoujoBox.

>>27353832
And here is HoloEN. WIth the good numbers of the offcollabs, Council returning to form and Gura and Ina returning they're inclining their way back up, now to near 9k and soon to 10k if this trajectory continues

>>27353722
Holo is gonna be the standard if you wanna be successful as a female streamer and by successful i mean be in the 0.01% top of female vtubers

>>27354149
no, you are the one wrong.
kys

>>27353928
Vshojo is still an american company even if they are opening a JP branch, they don't care that much about those things. Will it work with the JOPs viewers that are supposed to be their target audience tho?
That's the real question

>>27354149
>HomoEN won't collab with the Hololive girls...They'll do what Roberu did, and put themselves in the VshoujoBox.
I beleeb this part of the rrat at least. It would be a good idea honestly

>>27354049
nah that one is bunk
the rrat was they auditioned for the same VA part and nyanners didn't get it or something

>>27354149
This would be a massive power play and I would begrudgingly respect the shrewdness.

>>27354149
How many balls did you have anon?

>>27354149
>Going off the fact that /vt/ is never right about anything, as proven by how it was continuously argued that there was no way Vshoujo would hire Mike and no way Kson would join another corpo
>>27353826(me)
Im basically nostradamus at this point and I still believe that mike is still radioactive from covers standpoint due to the statement she released

>>27353341
>any day now
>any day the random 4 word messages she doesn't even understand are spam will drive her to the brink and cause her to quit
>just a little bit more guy, we'll get her soon

>>27351583
nah, Coco is separate from Kson at this point, they split the moment she graduated. I maintain my respect for Coco, but any respect for Kson is waning fast.

>>27354149
As long as they help the boys incline I'm happy. I'm tired of being called a homobeggar jus because I want Roberu to have higher numbers

>>27354270
oh yeah i heard of that rrat
now that were talking about rrats im curious if the dakooters is the cause of the talent vs management friction in vshojo is true or if the dakooters EN3 is true

>>27354507
>I maintain my respect for Coco
did your wife's boyfriend give you permission to say this?

>>27353826
>>27354149
I'm willing to buy 10% stock of these rrats

>>27354149
>I'm willing to bet my balls that you guys are also wrong about Cover still having tension with Mike
how many balls you wanna bet on that?

>Roberu on Trash Taste
The Monkey's Paw curls?

>>27354149
Enter isgeye mogging vwhores on their own platform

Imagine dropping the whole china market to defend one person, only for her to quit few months later and join other corpo. Come back hololive, we still love you.

You are free to bugspray me.

>>27354149
Cover doesn't have tension with Mike. Mike has tension with Cover.

Keep dreaming about idols-wannabe collabing with literal whores.

>>27353832
>>27354156
And here is HoloID. Their median inclined the FUCK UP, almost 1k incline since HoloFes and ID3, up from 1.4k more or less

>>27354633
Anon, there is no upside in the chinese market. Smarter companies than Cover tried to figure out a way to keep their cake and eat it too (like Disney) and fell flat on their faces

>>27354633
>Chinese market

>>27354681
also case in point
>Blizzard

>>27354681
anycolor is doing pretty well over there.

>>27354149
>VshojoJP
>mogging anyone on twitch
Anon korea owns the vtuber sphere on twitch and im sure that a jp branch will never be successful there

>>27353168
also importantly, how will those same EN fans react to her parasocial content kek.

>>27354633
The changs were right Coco literally poisoned the well then fucked off after infecting hololive with her reddit shit.
>B-but shit ARK and asacoco
Hololive was already inclining without that

>>27354734
Anycolor will close the shop in less than 5 year.

>>27354633
>>27354763
>changs
not even once after what you did to watame

>>27354738
Korea owns the Korean sphere. They can't claim to control the Vtuber sphere without international reach outside of their home market

>>27354209
even if they are an american company, they are operating in Japan, you'd think they'd try to understand the market a little bit, otherwise they're just going to crash and burn spectacularly. Well, that's the sense I got when the hooker they went for in Japan of all places was 'freedom', so I look forward to the fireworks.

>>27354812
>They can't claim to control the Vtuber sphere without international reach outside of their home market
Vshojo has that but isegye still mogs them daily

>>27354734
Just fucking wait until someone says a chinese slur or mentions winnie the pooh offhandedly

It's fucking inevitable with how sensitive the chinese are and how many yabs the Nijis produce, Anycolor can't dodge every bullet

>>27354734
>anycolor is doing pretty well over there.
pretty sure vox lost a number of his zhangs due to that whole reimu debacle

Cap this .
Gura will be terminated by Cover at the end of the year and will join Vshojo at march 2023 .

>>27354641
What’s the unKobo’d median?

>>27354579
I don't share your hobbies cuckanon.

>>27354913
Yes, because Isegye has the Korean market and no one can contest their hold over it. The Korean market on Twitch for Vtubers is larger than the EN one, probably, so it will ultimately always beat Vshoujo

They can still succeed within the EN and JP Twitch markets. Maybe ES

>>27352373
Based

Mori HoloCure tomorrow
Predictions?

>>27351767
Those are Oji san

>>27355117
8K

>>27355117
better than vox elden ring

>>27354149
>going the roberu way
it could work, but HomoEN will not be charismatic like my son

Cap this
Mike will have another meltdown a couple of months from now which will result in one of her gachikois stabbing kson for corrupting her

>>27355117
Call me when Gura plays it

>>27354149
Nijibros.. our days are numbered.

>>27355064
>larger than the EN one
No dude , it's because Vshojo is shit

>>27355117
8-10k maybe 12 if no overlap

>>27354633
Stop harassing Fubuki you scum.

So is the strategy of going against Hololive the best for other companies?
Nowadays it seems impossible to compete with Hololive following the idol route, but if everybody uses the "my creative freedom" and "no boundaries" speech, wouldn't that make the non-idol market even harder to become relevant?
I mostly watch Hololive for the idol aspect and I watch all the 3D lives and listen to all the songs, I'm not even a unicorn and I don't give a fuck about them having BFs or not, but if I wanted to watch just girls behaving like whores I'd rather to watch real fleshtubers

I saw that a Chinese Vshojo translator on B2 also quit subbing for them after the Kson announcement.
I guess Vshojo finally stops caring about the chinks.

>>27355049
I did that last time, it changes very little. Dock 200 from the number and it's in the ballpark

>>27353832
>>27354156
>>27354641
Now for Nijisanji, starting with NijiJP.
They were in a very steep ascent but it reverse on June 19 and since then they're back at a reclining trajectory.

Something happened on June 19 that could justify that reversal in the trend? Remember this is a 30 days median so it could be strong streams falling out of range from 30 days prior.

>>27355228
>if no overlap
don't worry ame will have this covered

Man.. this is really exciting huh? With VshojoJP entered the scene it'll be a Triparte with Rikkun as CaoCao, Yagoo as Sun Quan, and Gunrun as Liu Bei

>Vox will sell tons of merch
GoodSmile doesn't sell goods in China. Any merch that Vox sells to chinese fujos and yumejos will be bootleg shit he won't see a dime from, made by their own.

Vox Nendo will flop

>>27355289
I mean yeah that was what one anon was saying in one of the earlier threads
Being the anti-idol market is really hard since your competing with fleshtubers in that regard moreso if your focusing on twitch

>>27355405
More like a battle for second and third place between Niji, VSPO and VShojo.

>>27355350
Rust arc being over maybe?

So I presume hololive grossed $500k minimum with the current list of sold out

>>27355350
might be the rust arc but im not sure

>>27355338
Nyanners' original artist too. A slap to their face.

>>27355518
I don't know shit about cons, did it cost them anything to show up? Besides the costs of production I mean

>>27355289
>the strategy of going against Hololive
Didn't need it , unless Hololive fucked up themself like Nijisanji 2019-2020 .... they will be forever on top .

>>27355350
>>27353832
>>27354156
>>27354641
And here is NijiEN
Like NijiJP they broke their incline and started a recline more or less at the same time as their main branch.

An ominous sign? Let's see how things go for the next few weeks

>>27355514
>>27355593
Could be it but did that arc raise the floor for the smaller guys so they could collectively raise the floor for the whole branch?

I've never seen anyone talk anout this but does VhojoJP have anything to stand out in the competitive Japanese vtuber industry?

>>27355430
anon you forget that theres a ton of chinese living in na specially in canada
im certain that those vox nendroid will sell really good and will probably use in the female equivalent of a cum jar

>>27351102
how the fuck anyone replied seriously to a schizo like that

Whats scheduled tonight? Or is Chinman walking away with Gold tonight?

>>27355733
I don't think NIjis had the best idea by going with a Nendo, which are more of a guy purchase.
They were SPOT ON with that fashion collection with purses and female fashion
>except that, instead of designing it, they went with chinese knockoffs and got busted

Anyway, it was a great idea and would likely sell much better for the target market captured by Luxiem

>>27355732
No not really other than the fact that they are former Holo

>>27355733
Being a Chinese in NA doean't make anyone like Vox anon. They have more options like fleshstreamers and Dream crew.

>>27355733
>specially in canada
Don't forget that yesterday was Canada Day, which is also CCP Day.

>>27355804
Azki.

>>27355843
>which are more of a guy purchase.
fujos wont care anon they will buy that shit because its vox
its the reason why he's the one that theyre using to test the waters since they know fujos will buy it

>>27355804
Here is last sunday. Subaru playing #8 of that game could match (and barely miss beating) today's he-Ayame numbers

>>27355609
Fee to rent a space, must have cost upward 50k for holo

>>27355936
Thats an easy 40k, sounds good.

>>27355804
azki
there was a marine collab someone mentioned

>>27355804
AZKi has a 3D live that she's advertised well in advance and everyone knows it will have Suisei as a guest, should be gold.

>>27355652
Nijisanji is still fucking themselves. They are retreating from cons, they didn't even show up to AX and they're getting reduced space at Comiket because of the dlsite incident.

>>27355518
If only those morons brought the correct amount of goods.

since it looks like most of the drama is over for now, have a little something nice to laugh at

So like... Any vshoujo panel pic?

>>27355289
It never works anon. There was some startup who tried to be the antihololive company and are already forgotten. I'll even go so far as say that most vtuber companies should try to be even MORE like Hololive or at least copy certain aspects of it. VSPO literally inclined to 3rd place in Japan because they basically used Hololive's patented CGDCT but with fps. VShoujo cant even beat isegye which is basically the bootleg KR version of Hololive. Even Nijisanji has started to pivot more towards idol-centric imagery. Their current golden goose Salome has been quarantined from Collabs, more than likely to avoid the same fate that every nijigirl suffers when they interact with the guys. This is basically the modern NBA all over again. Some teams like the grit and grind Grizzlies tried to stay true to their slow inside-out style but eventually every team in the NBA turned into a bunch of 3ball spammers. Until another company introduces a new meta into vtubing that forces a full on paradigm shift, holo will remain on top barring an UPd8 level yab.

>>27356019
It has the Suisei buff + rarity buff, so I think it will be higher, 60k or so

There's also Shion x Marine off-collab but that's sadly on Shion's channel.

>>27355970
>fujos wont care anon they will buy that shit because its vox
You are overestimating the hassle that is to wait the amount of time for purchase, production and shipment.
Haachama nendos announced last year are just arriving at the hands of Haaton.

They also have a "3 nendos per address" so there won't be any mass purchases like fujos usually do. I am not saying they won't sell out but I am saying selling out a fashion collection would be much easier and just as profitable

>>27356092
Selling everything out with expected profit is always way better than overstocking

Why do people say that the other VshojoJP member is mikeneko? VShojo is fucking dumb if it's true. You don't hire people who broke NDA, that's just asking for trouble.

nijigold soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_-wf_Cj5ZA

>>27356248
>Haachama nendos announced last year are just arriving at the hands of Haaton.
oh yeah i forgot about that but yeah fujos are gonna be pissed at the waiting time

>>27355733
Chinese canadians aren't the same as mainland chinese there would be no difference in numbers if that was the case

>>27355289
VSPO has the best strategy so far. Build your brand around competitive gaming and not idolshit. They miss out on concert and music sales, but they probably will do better than Hololive and Nijisanji in terms of video game sponsorships and related products, we know those types of companies shell out big bucks to shill their shit.

>>27356289
Her voice sounds similar. I don't watch or listen Rushia enough to confirm that. Also isn't VShoujo an American company? Their audiences love to defend the talent when it's a talent vs company thing

>>27356319
what was the numbers last year?

>>27356289
her voice sounding the same, kson saying the new member was "someone you all know," mikeneko deleting her alt_twitter, the new twitter account using kaomoji which rushia liked to use
also the biggest one is that we know kson helped out rushia irl and had a meal or two with her.

>>27356371
>>27356371
>>27356371
>better in term of sponsor
not so sure about that since they can't reach holoniji view floor. Imagine having to reach 150k views in a sponsor stream as VSPO.

>>27356289
>She had a few voice lines on the kson pv for vshoujo and it's literally mike voice
>The rigger for mike l2d retweeted the vshoujo announcement
>Her first tweet a few hours ago was some kaomojis that mike literally spams on her tweets
>Kson literally said at the vshoujo panel ''you know who she is'' when talking about the new girl

>>27355430
>GoodSmile doesn't sell goods in China.
https://goodsmile.tmall.com

>>27356289
>>27356419
sound the same plus miguels rigger rt her debut

>>27356584
Oh, ok then. Will she still do her GFE shtick? How does it going to work? You know they're going to collab with males.

>>27356584
Kson is worse than the doxbeats, I swear.

>>27356319
>Mahjong Soul
Serious candidate, what's the prediction?

I say an easy 70k, this one does not slip and for real. Smack in the middle of CCVID this same tournament did 43k

>>27356584
haha it's l*l*

Do topic channels count for the most viewed original Holosongs in 2 weeks? I didn't track it properly, but I'm pretty sure that Suspect had around 2,92M views the day Matsuri streamd Holocure for the first time and now has 3,064M it might make it to the top 20 this week thanks to the Holocure buff

>>27354633
Generally speaking currently it is not the right time to enter China's market again. The restriction is too much. Not like Japan has no speech control, but China is extra sensitive right now due to American's pressure to prevent hegemonic power transfer from them to the Chinese. Probably will take 10 years for us to see whether China will fail to challenge America or suceed at it, and then everything will liberalise in China, and things will really get going.

>>27356447
https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1396079001022582784
64.6k

>>27356673
>Will she still do her GFE shtick? How does it going to work? You know they're going to collab with males.
Some of the few fandeads left are coping. It was a double whammy for them since miguel was tweeting a couple of weeks ago that she wanted/liked a foreigner bf. Im imagining that the gachikois might commit suicide the moment she collabs with connor

>>27353722
Because they were the beacon that brought millions of new viewers to the industry. Hence every newfags from 2020 onwards incorporate hololive = vtubing. And lets not kid ourselves, all them ENchuuba that debut on 2020- are all influenced by holo's massive success. Just look at how much of JPchuubas went hard on gaijin pandering after holo

>>27356371
Hard to say. The main issue that I can think of is that wouldn't most game companies just go with Holo or Nijis when it comes to sponsorship anyway? If you want a pro to shill your stuff then there's a ton of pro teams out there. The only reason that Holo and Niji gets priority over pros is because they have big enough streamers to contend or even eclipse them. VSPO isn't at that stage yet. Ultimately, I do think that they might dip their toes on music or some other stuff in the future but who knows really.

>>27356673
>How is it going to work?
It's not. I honestly think neither kson nor mikeneko know what they are getting into, really.

>>27356844
jesas
yeah this is gold for sure
i say 80~90k

>>27356757
>>27356844
might be an actual gold contender for niji then and the graduation announcement buff might give them a boost

>>27356855
That's kinda sad. They should've been like Orca. He's hedging his bets on Chloe. Good for him.

>>27356135
>There was some startup who tried to be the antihololive company and are already forgotten.
No they're not. JunsGang makes it a point to keep the foot on their neck in this board to make sure they never have any chance to get traction here

>>27356319
>>27356757
>>27356844
It will probably be a nijigold, but never underestimate the power of the Holobox since it's her first live as part of Hololive iirc

>>27355733
Those leafchinks watch ina and kronni

>>27356135
>There was some startup who tried to be the antihololive company and are already forgotten
That was akioair right?

Imagine Vshocucks taking back their words about GFE experience when notRushia did it

>>27356319
I'll allow it.

>>27353722
Hololive is the golden standard for female vtubers. If you want to be successful, you need to look at the hololive model and tailor it to your own niche.

Since MikeNeko broke NDA, Japanese companies will be wary of her. The only place left to go is an oblivious American company that values talents over contracts and integrity.
I think Mike is a good fit. If anything happen, MikeNeko can just use her fans and turn on Vshojo easily since the company doesn't have diehard fans like Hololiven

so, what if notmiguel goes full whore
what then

I still dont understand why a mid tier NijiEN like Selen is used for Holobrony shitposting and not a Luxiem

>>27357149
Have you seen the titty pics she uploads on her twitter? She's halfway there.

>>27357149
would kill both her character and her rm activities

>>27356963
Meh AZKi's channel is a debuff and the only other guest is Sora. In the cold uncaring world of numbers that's only enough for a 50-60k. Roboco had Suisei as a guest too in one of her lives and that one got ~60k.

>>27357171
They arent gay

>>27356963
>never underestimate the power of the Holobox since it's her first live as part of Hololive iirc
I am not saying it wouldn't be possible but here is the top 10 highest CCV by AZKi so far

>39931 :: 2022-04-14 :: 【逆凸】AZKiはホロメンと仲良くなりたい!!!
>30712 :: 2021-07-03 :: 【3D LIVE】#AZKi超生誕祭2021 ゲスト:角巻わため/桃鈴ねね
>27572 :: 2022-04-02 :: ホロライブへ移籍しました!
>23086 :: 2022-05-19 :: 【歌枠】今宵は #わたあず Night Fever !!【 AZKi / 角巻わため】
>18106 :: 2021-02-23 :: 【AZKi 3rd衣装】新衣装お披露目LIVE -はじめまして、新しい私- #AZKi新衣装
>17697 :: 2021-11-14 :: 【#AZKi3周年】3rd Anniversary Live Over Light【新曲初公開も!?】
>15284 :: 2021-06-05 :: 【歌枠】ガンダムSEED/SEED DESTINY縛り!Singing Stream【#あずきんち】
>15125 :: 2021-01-31 :: 【Minecraft】初めてのマイクラ with そらちゃん!ホロ鯖探検するかも!?【#あずきんち】
>14820 :: 2020-11-20 :: #音楽を止めるな2最終日 -Vtuber楽曲MV48時間ノンストップ放送-
>14157 :: 2022-06-16 :: 【歌枠】突然、歌います。Singing Stream【ホロライブ / AZKi】

Not a single stream over 40k, with those numbers she wouldn't have beaten the same tournament when it was played during CCVID.
But, as you say, it's her first live live since onboarding the box so she might surprise us all SPECIALLY with those two at her wings