/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

This is a nice shill thread, anon

>>27348435
Hololive is the vtuber sphere.

>>27348435
Lol kson stop posting here.

>>27348435
>i'm seeing it everywhere
All the voices in your head still only count as (you).

>>27348435
> i'm seeing it everywhere. people are mainly criticizing how cover treat their talents and how strict idol culture is
Fuck off esl-chama

>>27348435
Wow. You trannies really have no life, do you? You will lie on your deathbed and look back on a life wasted spamming cope on /vt/. How pitiful.

>>27348435
>people are mainly criticizing how cover treat their talents

What do they do? Keep a minimum standard of quality everyone else just can't maintain?

Because it's true. The sooner Hololive burns, the sooner the vtubing industry can move forward
The antis coming out of the announcement are ridiculous. Kson is her own person, she can go wherever she wants

>>27348435
I certainly hate it even if my oshi is in it

>>27348435
>hololive is bad because of idol culture
haven't heard that one yet, you got anything new to say?

>>27348865
The vtuber industry can't move forward until the big three implode, and that means Nijisanji, Hololive AND Vshojo have to go. Vtubers need to be free of their influence first instead of molding themselves to fit to either three.

>>27348435
Don't you have cows to feed, Ahmad?

Why isn't SEA rangebanned?

>>27349235
nah i'm pretty sure the industry will move forward when actual vtuber fans are the loudest voice instead of these idoltourists setting arbitrary rules on everything

>>27348435
Rushia, stop posting with DeepL.

>>27348435
I mean duh it was always hololive against the world nothing changed
- Indies get low views= it's hololive's fault because people don't give me a chance
- hololive drama - let me cover that even if I don't watch vtubers
- hololive did a oopsie - it must be idol culture
- something bad happens with someone outside of hololive - that's hololive fans for sure pushing their ideals

>>27348435
>Hololive is crumbling
>Hololive about to die at any moment
Nah they wish it was dying look at all those potential viewers that are all of a sudden up for grabs. And no, contrary to popular belief Hololive concerts/lives keep getting more and more viewers.

You can see it's morning in Japan when suddenly very many bad english baits.

>>27349458
what is corporate sex?

>hololive is bad because of the culture they don't follow
Okay

>>27349381
nah i'm certain it'll only move forward after all non-jp e-thots in vtuber's clothing get imprisoned for their internet crimes

>>27349368
it's not always SEAniggers, cope and seethe western boi

>>27348865
she can. The issue is she made it seem like she would never join another corpo again and joined one on what seemed to be the day her non-compete expired

>>27348435
Vtubing is only attractive to geeks and geeks don't give money to whores. Hololive is successful because of its strict idol culture. Cover knows who watches cute anime girls, and it's not Tyrone or Chad or any of the dudes Vshojo have fucked.

>>27348435
If you use 4chan of all places to determine the popularity/criticism of a particular corporation or sphere, you're doing it wrong.

People here shit one everything just because it pisses other people off. There's literally no other reason.

4chan /vt/ is like 3-4 large factions of fanatical fans engaging in violent, factional warfare while Mercenary Companies filled with trolls run about throwing cans of gasoline on all the fires just to see how high they can make shit burn.

>>27348435
>rejects seething over being rejected
Tale as old as time

>>27349381
>idoltourists
How are idolfags the tourists again? Their existence literally predated EN.

>>27348435
>everywhere
Id be surprised if you know anything happening outside of vt

>>27348865
Ah yes, the glorious future where all vtubers become puppets for the alphabet brigade.

>>27348435
nice headcanon esl-chama

>>27349458
Vshojokek are actually excited over Kson who is below the Sana line lmao. BE HAPPY about miguel gato you retards, she is actually on par with your big 3

>>27349604
People change and so too do their opinions. Perhaps kson initially thought she could still make a difference in the industry while indie, but then realized she needed major backing to do anything substantial. Either way, I'm all for supporting her. Such a shame her previous fans feel the need to harass her, but that's what happens when a culture like Hololive actively encourages its fans to become sycophants

>>27348435
envy

>>27349686
You know the whole meme about letting outsiders onto a fanbase...

>>27349235
The vast majority of vtubers are independent. It's nobody's fault but yours that you obsess over these three companies.

>>27348560
God I love this woman.

>>27349648
>Mercenary companies
That's certainly how those fags like to think of themselves but if you read their discords they seethe endlessly about the popularity of JPs and idol chuubas.

>>27348435
You must be looking at very trashy places.

>>27349235
>>27349381
>move forward
Yeah, I can't wait for the day that all vtubers are legitimate skanks who hate anime and video games, talk about their sex life and masturbate on camera. You know, the things REAL FANS want.

>>27349455

Also HoloEN had a bunch of kino offcollabs while one of the big two competitors had two yabes in a month. That's Hololive's fault, somehow.

>>27348435
i don't like to numberfag, but there's some merit in doing it. an enormous slice of the fanbase prefers or at least finds comparable merit in putting a collar on the talents to get more consistent, controlled, and high-quality content

>>27349891
> Kson mind changes as soon as she is offered money
Lmao you are just a retard as all the trans who still support Finana after she retracted her statement as soon as pride month was over

>>27349891
>but that's what happens when a culture like Hololive actively encourages its fans to become sycophants
Spoken like a true ABCD- E-thot.

It's the one thing I can't stand about americans.
They really hate being held to objective standards of any kind.
Same shit with japanese translations.
>n-no you can't hold us to objective grammar and subject standards like real translators, we're writers! localizers!

>>27348435
How far you have fallen tatsucuck...... sad!

>>27350097
Vshojo does not operate like hololive, at all. It's closer to hiring an agent to represent you.

>>27350224
a-fucking-greed

>>27350326
And being expected to partake in their co-ordinated twitter witchhunts.

>>27350048
>Freedom automatically means they turn into skanks
ogey

>>27350326
who are you talking to?

>>27349235
>every major industry is run by the 2-3 major players with some indies in the mix here and there.
>Only vtubers can move forward if the big 3 die making sure there is no money to trickle down to the indie vtubers forcing them to leave in droves.
You must have taken some zoomer college course if you think mutually assured destruction will solve everything.

>>27350395
Well it sure seems so.

>>27350326
yes, and vshojo is garbage compared to Hololive which keeps a collar on their talents.

holointerns working overtime

>>27349455
kek so true

>>27350395
have you met women?

>>27349891
seethe and cope

>>27348435
>and how strict idol culture is

Won't someone think of those poor girls willingly adhering to their company's culture for the money! How do we save them from the evil idol culture they're totally okay with?

>>27349639
This. Just look at Nyanners after she admitted to having a boyfriend; her sub count fucking plummeted to sub-1000. She lost fucking 5416 subs at one point (although some were gifted, but not even close to all of them).
She only started regaining some in the past few weeks where a sizeable amount are also gift subs but it's a far cry from the amount of subs she had before the Aethelstan announcement.
People like to shit on "holocel unicorns" and "le evil idol culture" but other companies have just as many incels and unicorns too.

>>27348435
>hololive is becoming universally hated in the vtuber sphere
>watch other corpos n-

NO.

>>27348435
Tell em sisters! Pride *RAISE FIST HAND!

>>27350701
Those white knights will eventually save all those stupid girls who don't know what's good for them.

>>27350449
Oh sorry. I got my threads mixed up.

>>27350395
That's what VShojo proved up until this point.

>>27348435
Their fans are cancerous pieces of shit that are so mental that they worship the corpo over the talents. They harass anyone who dares look at their idols. Hololive also treats is talents and fans like shit. They unpersoned someone who had over a million subscribers and told everyone to deal with it. Did no one in their management think that would be an easy way to make people angry?

They also treat Holostars like shit. Their talents are too good to even mention the branch at all. Frigid cunts.

>>27351315
I've seen way more anti shit and actual "would lose in court if anyone ever brings up charges" shit from vshojo anti-idolfags on twitter than I have seen from holo antis, even including the zhangs.

>>27351315
>Holostars
>frigid
Oh it's another fake fuck who thinks pushing Stars as a counterpoint should work while ignoring the Stars own views because you don't actually watch them.

>>27351315
>reddit spacing

>>27351488
Just because the talents put up with it doesn't mean the fans don't notice.

>>27350395
>>Freedom automatically means they turn into skanks
That is literally the only thing "strict idol culture" impedes, yes.

>>27351550
>talents don't actually want to sabotage idols who they're fans of themselves
>durr they shouldn't have to put up with it
Neck yourself you cunt.

>>27351315
Shit up bitch

>>27351315
Reddit spacing moment

>>27351315
You're right that Cover mishandled the Rushia situation. They've become a faceless corporation run by 60-year old bugmen. But the way the girls behave is what makes people happy. But now that Rushia's joined Vwhorejo, I'm rethinking my opinion on them.
>They also treat Holostars like shit
Oh, here he goes, the fucking homobeggar.

>>27348435
>i'm being a faggot
kys

>>27351315
Absolute fucking nonsense. For what kind of audience Hololive gathers (young, horny men), they are pretty well behaved and listen what their oshi tells them if they get out of line. You stupid snowflakes just can't leave Hololive audience and culture be and have to provoke them so you get to "IDOL CULTURE BAD".

>>27349458
LMAO WHERE'S NIJI LMAO

>>27348435
I think you're seeing westerners applying their culture and beliefs onto japanese culture and beliefs.

>>27348435
Just because some western Twitter troons and Vshojofags bitch about Cover doesnt make it "Universal".

>>27348435
Amazing.

This is somehow the dumbest rrat I've seen today.

OP, you're so retarded it's amazing.

>>27351315
>Talent breaks the rules and their NDA
>oh no why did the evil corporation fire her???
Literally any company worth a damn will fire you over breaking an NDA. There's a lot to hate Cover for, but firing the retarded woman that broke the rules is the least of them.

>>27351865
Most of them probably want their other corpo oshi to be the same but due to their personalities never would.
Only thing left to do is to try and bring everyone else down to their level

>>27351551
Idol culture can be self-imposed. Kiara for example would act exactly the same even if she wasn't in Hololive, and various small corpos tow that line despite having no requirement to do so. Some indies too. You're under the impression that all vtubers are the same because the loud minority are gigantic fucking whores who never stream anyway: see vtweeters. And it's not like non-idol=whore anyway because there are vtubers who avoid sexual content despite not being idols.

>>27348435
>i'm seeing it everywhere
Where is that ""everywhere"" exactly? Care to show us?

I understand and accept people's opinion about liking vshojo more than hololive, thats ok, but how disconnected of reality you have to be to think vshojo is even close to hololive... ha!

>>27348435
Enjoy your content tailored to twitter trannies vcuck

>>27352003
probably on facebook lmao

>>27351315
They also treat Holostars like shit.
HoloStars gets better treatment than EN and ID. So shut the fuck up and go back to your corner.

>>27352002
>Kiara for example would act exactly the same even if she wasn't in Hololive
kek thats a good one anon made me chuckle

>>27351865
>Pretty well behaved
Ogey

>>27350802
veibae has lost a lot of subscribers too after she started streaming with soda all the time

>>27350802
>People like to shit on "holocel unicorns" and "le evil idol culture" but other companies have just as many incels and unicorns too.
B-b-b-b-b-but that's hololive's fault!

>vtuber sphere
Go to twitch, sort low to high, and ask if what people think in the vtuber sphere matters

>>27349639
>t. idoltourist that started watching vtubers after 2019

I'm not seeing that though, I'm not even sure what 'idol culture' means when people like Towa and La+ stream with men all the time.

>>27348435
The most popular thing is going to get the most hate. That's how it always is.

>>27351623
do you even pay attention?
holostars still collabs with the non-idols, if infrequently
the issue is how management treats them

>literally just a few months ago
>uproars debut was announced just before holo-fes
>huge publicity stunt for live and stars
>stars have a booth that the hololive stream cameras dont stop on, even when the commentators (think it was Lamy) asks "whats that"
>then ID gen 3 debuts with little recent forewarning
>then after holofes and ID3 has taken all the attention, uproar gets to debut a week later

holostars getting fucked over has jack shit to do with collabs or "sabotaging the idols"
OgaFubu collabs are more professional than 95% of the yuribaiting shit collabs they put out

>>27350802
your delusions aren't real

>>27353056
It's public data. Cope.

>>27348435
Bitter sisters who couldn't reach Cover's high standards, it's jealousy nothing more nothing less.

>>27348435
I quite like that. I hope that vshojo become even more popular so that all normalfags go follow them, they do like their e-thot style better anyway. Hololive will be idol-like company representative and everyone will be happy. If you want "creative freedom" (meaning of that I leave for your own interpretation) you can watch vshojo, if you want idol-like culture you can watch hololive. Yeah, viewers of one company will hate the other, but thats already true anyway.

>Hololive will crash and burn
>t. increasingly nervous Chinese/Twitter Subhuman/Twitch Monkey/Schizo/Nijishitter/etc

Maybe you'd have a point if the population of hololive antis didn't have a genetic quality on par with the Dalit.

I love this thread

>>27348435
Shut up Rushia

>>27348435
>leftist psy-op
dude, Cover is growing.

>>27354944
Honestly, we should just take care of our own communities and stop these tribal wars for no reason. But there will always be some fucker to start them anyway...

>>27348435
Honestly, Cover and Niji going under would be the best case scenario. Vtuginh has become so samey, they I have go to my usual 2view to find fresh content.
>ibn4 AME LA CREATIVDAD
Her ideas aren't as original as teamates make them sound. Those VRC chibi models? VirtuaReal did that well before Ame did. Trampoline stream? just a variant of the hot tub stream meta from Twitch.

>>27356000
Ame hasn't been la creativity for ages. All she does now is waste her money on Kanaru to make shit for her. As her viewers and superchats dry up she'll be paying by sucking dick instead.

>>27356000
All corpos going under is the best case scenario. I understand freedom is detrimental to a lot of chuubas, but that guarantees the pieces of shit will attract similar fandoms and the ones that are worth it will behave not for company restrictions but out of love for their fans.

>>27349491
kek, thankyou for the laugh anon

>>27349455
Man.. Success really does breed jealousy..

all these vtuber tourist clickbaiters and their communities that claim they love vtubers but really only support one because they follow their politics having a meltdown over kson/vshojo on various social media is glorious. The vtuber world is healing

>>27348435
Let me educate on law. Holo admitted not educating there talent on avoiding Taiwan. If they were to fire her, she would have been able to take them to court. They had to keep her. So they tried to force her to quit. But that was taking too long, so they lost the market. They tried really hard to get her to quit as well, by allowing anti's to have mod in her YouTube channel, heavy oversight on her content and isolating. It's so easy to ignore the terrible shit they done to her, when you are biased because you like the other talent and don't want to think that cover is a shit company.

>>27348435
>universally hated
lol

>>27349381
>idoltourists
This is what I hate so much about these subhumans that invade literally every niche culture. The gaslighting and historical revisionism.

"Idoltourists" are the backbone and founding members of vtubing culture. But everyone who isn't a gatebarging disingenuous newfag rat already knows that.

>>27349458
>sex: corporate
Why did i laugh at this

>>27349381
>idoltourists
Idolfags built this fucking industry whether you like it or not. They were the first in and when the normies ditch it for the next big thing the idolfags will still be here.

>>27348435
is this some westubing propaganda

>>27348435
China just banned vshojo
Nyanners mama condemns vshojo

Whorejo deflection threads on /vt/...?

>>27351315

> Woman breaks NDA
> Gets fired

Cope more.

> Holostars.

Besides all the collabs that make /vt/ seethe, fucking Lazulight would love to be treated like Holostars. They have 3ds, their concert, actual anniversary events, etc.

>>27348435

>>27348435
>strict
Except Hololive doesnt even enforce idol culture.
None of them are idols, they just pretend to be.

>>27356500
>So they tried to force her to quit.
No they didn't. Kson kept trying to do retarded shit so Cover had to tard wrangle her. They were completely vindicated. Kson kep trying to get yab shit under the radar by vaguely telling management what she intended then going and doing something like saying other Holos are drug addicts.

She's done absolutely nothing worthwhile since leaving Hololive.

>>27356738
I'm way more blackpilled than you, there won't be "normalfags" moving on there will be normalfags taking over the entire sphere of influences changing what vtubing is to where every vtuber is a fleshtuber/vtuber showing their tits on twitter comparing them to their anime tits, idolfags will be driven out and have no entertainment to speak of and just be another niche group on the wayside of history bitter about the days long past where the industry RIGHTLY catered to them.

>>27350224
As a burger, I agree with you 100%

>>27351315
we don't need you tranny kys

>>27350395
See literally every woman ever.

>>27356771
translate it mate

>>27357082
Nia, Nyanner's original character artist, has responded to the news of kson joining Vshojo saying she does not approve as a Chinese citizen.
Replying to SYLbravo, a bilibili channel that posts Vshojo videos on the platform, will be deleting their videos in 5 days in protest.

>>27350224
>videogame "Ghostwire Tokyo" comes out in 2022
>"localizers", literal communists on twitter with "writer of Ghostwire Tokyo" being self-credited in their bio, doing the "translation"
>moment where protagonist finds bow and arrow and asks how his mentor got something like that in Japan, mentor says he "found it", protag says "by found you mean stole, right?", mentor says basically "ara ara can't be helped" in very Japanese fashion
>"translation" is "All property is theft, kiddo"

>>27357130
china... based? wtf is this world coming to.

>>27356792
Your post gave me an aneurysm and should be quoted as proof of why this whole board was a mistake

>>27357130
but why?
Coco showed a statistics that YOUTUBE have, it's not her fault
Jesus Christ these chinks really made Coco/Kson some evil monster that will destroy China or something

>>27357130
Emphasis on original. Nyan redebuted in January with an entirely new artist so she's no longer connected to Nia. Her current artist is muryou_tada

Do you people just not remember Erolive at all
>https://files.catbox.moe/4tzjlw.webm
Hololive is not strict at all, they only have a ban on political discussion, coombaiting is still a mainstay of their content

>>27357532
stop anon, these newfags came after cover stopped erolive

>>27357271
No they just hate kson

>>27357620
>Implying it ever stopped
I watched Chloe 3D. She stripped, laid on the ground, and spread her fucking legs like a slut for superchats. She did Hypnosis roleplay, she made all kinds of lewd noises, erolive is alive and well

>>27348435
Guys, something feels.... cuckholded....
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

>>27357800
erolive is more erotic than that

>>2735753
These faggots do not remember erolive or the summer of sex. They showed up after EN got popular. They never saw Coco Lazering her pubes on stream. Or the bathtub streams.

>>27357800
Dude never watched the 3D swimsuits stream...

>>27350802
Akira of all people has unicorns. People really underestimate unicorndom.

>>27357800
Not even close to what erolive was.

>>27357396
That would be the equivalent of Ayamy or any holomamas condemning Hololive
Vshojo is throwing everything they have out the window with this

>>27349235
Vtuber corporations need to change to fit the talent, not the other way around.

>>27357532
>they only have a ban on political discussion
That's too strict. Until Korone and Ame are being forced to advocate for Kamala 2024, abortion rights and BLM Hololive's idol policies are too fucking strict. It's a CHUD incel bait hive and this needs to change for vtubing to progress.

>>27357357
Chinks love to turn on anyone and everyone soon as an opportunity knocks. Brainwashed masses. There is a massive disconnect between Kson to Nyan and her old artist. Only suddenly the old artist hates nyan because kson joined? No fucking relation between artist and kson yet instant brainwash mode activates.
Chinks just hivemind as the nationalists tell them to.

>>27358078
That's not how a business functions, that's how they go bankrupt you fucking retard.

>>27348435
4 letters
C O P E
O
P
E
holofags BTFO
Didn't believed rrats in the right moment and now holotrannies are seething

>vtwitchers/vtweeters thinking their opinion matters
lol
lmao

The irrational hatred of hololive is really funny to see.

>>27348435
the world doesnt revolve around eops

>>27357620
>The era of the first wave of vtuber newfags can now be considered oldfag material by /vt/'s standards
This is a grave realization

>>27351315
>They also treat Holostars like shit
holy shit you're just retarded

>>27358053
>Everything they have
>One artist who doesn't even do anything for them anymore
what

>>27356771
they will just quickly change artist. its not like VShojo is like Cover where IRyS is still stuck with her artist

>>27358528
The ones complaining about idol culture are even newer.

>>27348435
>i'm seeing it everywhere
yes we know honey, we know.
*pets your head*
*drops meds into the cup*

>>27358175
Yeah and burgers don't? Kek.

>>27350395
Women in a nutshell.

They lead the entire industry into a period of stagnation and the holobronies wonder why they viewed with contempt. They didn't do nuffin'! That's precisely the issue, what did the Holosloths do. They realized that they could one week a day and make ends meet. Most dropped all pretense of worth ethic and turned into potatoes.
They had an opportunity to lead by example and they floundered it. What'll people say about the rise and nature of Hololive's success? Well the YouTube algorithm sucked Yagoo's cock and the girls ran off of fan created memes. They were pretty meh overall though… So when some Holobronies mouths off about how successful and talented Hololive's entertainers are be sure to remind that they've done jack shit for the industry.

>>27352002
Kiara wouild be suggesting that it's open season hunting grounds by police on black people in America for the crime of being black if there were no hololive reins on her. This is something she unironically believes.

>>27349368
https://youtu.be/SZErUdbEIpc

Meds
Take them
Everyone in this thread

>>27348435
it's a weird situation, because the Hololive vision is unironically the right one, the 'good guys' but cover is a shit company run by absolute fucking retards, especially at managing their talent

You’ll notice in society there’s a steady push towards literal church burning. People are out to destroy religion itself. Literal Satanism is trending. Everything sacred and wholesome bad. Hold onto your faith it’s about to get fucking wacky

>>27363195
How is it Hololive’s fault that everybody else sucks, if they weren’t better they wouldn’t get attention

>>27363918
>Hold onto your faith
If you have so much faith prove it and start doing something about it. You're a limp dicked spineless faggot who expects God to do all the work and you shame the faithful who fought in crusades and burnt whores in pyres that came before you by being so spineless.

>>27364091
It’s because they think hololive sucks all the viewers.

>>27364115
>t. Whore

>>27364326
I'm the one telling you to burn whores you "turn the cheek" probably-Protestant pussy.

>>27364115
Nice try FBI

>>27364240
Well, objectively they do. Watch Vtuber content on a fresh system. I.E, clear cache or open a private tab. Do not view any clips related to Hololive. Watch as inevitably Gura, IRyS, and other Holos get thrown into your feed. To the casuals they are all that they get shown. YouTube's algorithm sucks Yagoo's cock.

>>27349600
>esl
>"westernboi" as an insult
rumao

>>27350590
>Holobronies employed to defend cover corp for 5cent
FTFY

>>27363413
>Kiara wouild be suggesting that it's open season hunting grounds by police on black people in America for the crime of being black if there were no hololive reins on her. This is something she unironically believes.

This but unironically. Any problem involving things like this could be solved overnight if citizens were free to do something about it, but it is the state itself that protects criminals/niggers/antifa/the whole menagerie of its paralegal catspaws from citizens, and punishes anyone who tries to get rid of them, especially if they try to organize in groups to do so.

I just farted

>>27364877
I can't make sense of your own cognitive dissonance or what exactly you're saying. Is the accompanying image just a joke about her being Austrian?

Kiara's personal ideology could hardly be further from what you're advocating, her views could not be more typical of a lamebrained milquetoast cucked European woman in nature. I have no doubt that she agrees vehemently with the concept of making the depiction of swastikas in her country a crime.

>>27348435
The people crying about idol culture on Twitter were never fans anyway, refusing to pander to these fags just strengthens the current fan base. Twitter fags such as yourself think the internet revolves around you, it’s honestly sad

>>27357357
virtue signaling for their social credit score

>>27365290
It does revolve around them because things are changing to suit them as we speak and it's only going to get worse, and the only time anybody fucking does anything like with the recent example of Finana and "educate yourself" is when it's a spectacle that's particularly insulting. This fat pride shit and future nigger and tranny loving virtue signalling will go uncontested by anyone and just cement the further slide down the slope.

>>27350395
Pretty much yep

>>27364555
that's because their content are more advertiser friendly and youtube appreciate that

>>27365555
nice quads

>>27364115
that would literally against the faith you

>>27348435
Jesus Christ you guys aren't even trying anymore

>>27349878
>below sana line
>as an indie
Different metrics. Sana would be at 10k followers if she were in the same boat. With publicity she'll be at the top in no time.

>>27365799
I'll educate this fish's cloaca

>>27365650
And people are fed up with YouTube suppressing creators on an arbitrary basis. Just because YouTube likes what Hololive doesn't mean they should be pushed any more than their competitors. And some resentment will filter onto Hololive ,the same way that teachers pets get stigmatized.

>>27365780
Then your faith is worthless toothless faggot shit that can't help anyone.

>>27362515
They don't

>>27365115


Have you forgotten anon? We memed a sports coach into becoming a duck. We memed a real-estate developer and reality tv star into becoming the president. Every shitpost is fertilizer spread into the ground of Being, preparing the soil, for sprouting the seeds of new realities.

>>27349368
>blames seanigs
>vshitshow is majority na/eu
>nijiniggers are discord trannies and chinese girls
Hey, we may spam kobo and numberfag but thats it

>>27367161
fuck you frog poster

>>27350802
Nyan didn't lose subs becuase people knew she had a boyfriend. People knew they were a couble LONG before they formally announced it.
No, Nyan lost subs because she stopped streaming for a long period of that time. Yes, that was because she was busy moving in with her boyfriend, but the direct cause was from her not, from her fan's relationship opinions. It was simply a matter of air time.

>>27369062
This is something to mention. Twitch and YouTube is different. As a streamer said, if you aren't streaming on Twitch then you don't exist on Twitch. If you put something out on YouTube then it has potential to be passed around.

>>27349235
Let me guess anon. Blue hair?

>>27348435
>everywhere
Your facebook group don't count as "everywhere" anon.

>>27349381
idolshit was here before you were, retard. Go back.

they all hate hololive and ridicule it but still try to apply to become a part of it lol

>>27348435
eh you can bring your wokeshit and liberal values to vshoujo and nijisanji

>>27348435
Yes they have incompetent suits with saving face culture who don't care about their talents, but is this really so important in this world?
If they are bad at running a business a better business will take over through competition.
Maybe this is what's happening slowly now, but we don't own any shares of these companies and won't make money from it.

>>27350224
localizers are literal fascists

Vshojo is everything that's wrong with vtubing

>>27349891
Like Ninja changed his opinion when he went to mixer?
They probably offered her a shitload.

you ever notice people that bring up holostars and how they are treated, never watched holostars at all? it's a weird phenomena

>>27371682
same but with any non-holo

>>27364845
uh oh someone got mad

>>27348435
good.

I stopped caring about vtubers in general. I'm only here for beatani/risuna threads

>>27348435
Meds

>>27348435
Holo good but
Fanbased sxxx

>>27356666
Because it's like
>Sex: Yes
It's just a stupid little oversight that's funny when you see it

>>27350395

>>27348865
Yes, moving forward to putting more importance on politics and virtue signaling than being entertaining
And by that time I would finally be free from these shackles

>>27351315
>worship the corpo over the talents
That's NijiEN

>>27357532
Anon there's a difference between sensuality and whoring.

>>27358528
The term newfag itself stopped having meaning when the site crossed 15 years old.
At that point obviously there will be a massive churn of people who even knew what 2002 4chan looked like.
Internet has accelerated the flow of time so that there's more happening in a year that used to happen in a decade.
And so people older than a couple of years are 'old' because they experienced all of the big shit that this hobby experienced, and the path that led to here.
Those older are grandpas.
And those older are fossils.
It's just how things go.

>>27356874
i better learn japanese fast, the west really does corrupt everything it touches

>>27350395
Literally proven by every case we had so far

>>27350453
For e-thots thats exactly what it means

>>27350028
>woman
That's a guy, you fucking retard.

>see bait
>reply to it
Why are /vt/fags like this?

>>27349878
>she is actually on par with your big 3
No, she never was. And now after her yab and not streamingvpublically for a while she's even lower.

>>27349891
>kson initially thought she could still make a difference in the industry while indie
She never even tried to do anything other than make virtually the same content she did at Hololive and occasionally collab with some 2 views. What fucking "difference" are you talking about?

>>27368084

>>27376137
what else is there to do on this boring ass board?

>>27348435
>i'm seeing it everywhere.
you mean reddit?

>>27378516
Facebook

>>27348435
Veibae you really shouldn't be on 4chan.

>>27348435
Success breads jealousy. Even the "failed" Stars get more supas than "golden girl" Salami.
As always greynames are completely inconsequential.

>>27378553
>facebook
ahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

>>27349235
>Big 3
>Vshoujo
Meds

>>27348435
I dont care about holos these day but this is not true.

>>27369062
Holy cope

>>27356500
This is an outright fucking lie.

>>27378853
>Even the "failed" Stars get more supas than "golden girl" Salami.
kek

>>27365555
Finana walked that back though.

vtubers in general were always reviled by the internet at large
VShojo desperately tries to pander to normies: >we're just like normal streamers we swear!
>allows 3DPD
>woke shit
so they're starting to get a pass
while Hololive refuses to accomodate that horseshit and mantains its uniqueness

Cover management is still fucking incompetent tho, i'll give you that

>>27350395
yes, which is why Islam is right about women.

And yet hololive still drags in large numbers. The loud people are the minority, both the people who hate vshojo and nijisanji and those that hate idol culture and hololive. Most don’t use social media or don’t engage in that shit and just watch streams and mind their own fucking business. I watch hololive, I don’t like niji, I don’t like VShojo, I don’t like sex jokes and explicitly all the time. I don’t give a fuck if they do. Problem is their fans make fun of what I like and I see people insulting each other over fucking nothing and being mad all the time. If you luke pure idols watch A, if you like whores watch B. Watch and support whatever you like, not my problem. But if you are going to have a problem with what others like then burn you piece of shit.

>27350395
Incels will reply to this post.

>>27381940
meant for >>27350395

>>27348435
YES. GO TELL THEM SISTER!! EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH NIJISANJI. THE MOST POPULAR AND THE BIGGEST, NOT TO MENTION PUBLIC VTUBER GROUP IN THE WHOLE WORLD

>>27363195
>excuses
>more excuses
No one is stopping other corpos/indies to rise to the top
Wasn't it the best time for others to seize the opportunity to rise to the top since Holo is being stagnant like you said?

>>27348435
seeing western vtubers act like this makes me appreciate hololive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=705IIOKCa0M

>>27353011
Oh, you're that schizo from /stars/. Yeah, because them being slightly slighted during the Expo really counterbalances the fact that they got 3D, an ONA, 2 concerts with the second one coming up this October and all the other shit they've been getting in the past 2-ish years, right?. But no, Lamy not knowing who they are is definitely the worst thing in the world and Cover's fault for not educating that drunk elf to absolutely respect and venerate the members of the other branch she barely interacts with.

>>27348435
Kept saying this for months now, finally people start to wake up.

reminder that these people you read and are referring to are redditors, twitchfags, and clip comments who
>literally don't watch streams live
>dont SC
>dont donate
>dont sub
>mainly associate themselves with vtubers as a fad and will likely stop after a few months

I like how you have these nutjobs who literally think idol culture = Vtubing was how it always was, then act like people who are against it are the ones who joined the train ride late. Just amazing to what extent Holo fans are retarded.

>>27380043
And then "Desu Wa" appears and completely up-ended the meta that vtuber needs to be more of "real woman, with anime mask"

>>27383713
How is she doing nowadays?

>>27363195
Hololive is so successful because others are whack.
So in order for others to have success in the field, they must bring Hololive down to their level. That's the new paradigm. Not becoming better, but corrupting the shining examples down to their level.
Vtubing in 2022 is nothing but a race to the bottom of depravity.

Vtubing shouldn't be defined by just putting on the avatar. That would be so fucking boring. There should be at least some noticeable effort into kayfabe, into being something more than yourself, to fully take advantage of the full potential of transforming into an anime character can do.

Hololive at least tries to make vtubing special, if they were gone, vtubing would be no different from regular livestreaming, except of a facecam you have a considerably less expressive and more stiff face.

>>27348435
>hololive is becoming universally hated in the vtuber sphere
You just noticed it now??? Kek, they were hated be everyone since they started.

>>27378553
fucking lol this thread.

>>27349458
Nice holobots, buddy. In reality they all are 2view shitters

>>27380043
>Hololive
>uniqueness
>copied everything from Nijisanji
kek

>>27383796
still coasting along, getting really high CCVs. I don't think I saw anyone at Nijisanji interacting with her or she's replying yet, and I'm not sure what's the general Anycolor's plan with her since she have really thick kayfabe. Tbf, Gura was also in similar position but she had her genmates

>>27363195
Explain Miko's WWE stream then lol

>>27349368
Because at least one janny is a brown skinned savage.

>>27348435

With the current Vshojo shit happening, give me your tastiest rrrats /vt/.

I have a crazy idea: What if people who don't like idol culture just simply don't watch Hololive
Why do you insist on trying to change Hololive or make their idols like the rest of the western twitchwhore shit out there?
You already have thousands of those. Why do you need to go after the last 1% and force them to be the same as well?

>>27385905
Taking in Mikeneko on top of 5 million was the payment VShojo was forced to make to Kson for her to get hired.

>I'm seeing it everywhere
Meds

>>27384410
>hololive bad because they have a fundamentally different culture
>but hololive also bad because they're just a Nijisanji clone
???

>>27385905
Vshojo spent roughly 90 % of their seed investment money to secure Kson and Mike, 1 year deal followed by their departure.

>>27348435
>i'm seeing it everywhere

>>27348435
ogey

>>27348435
success breads jealousy

holobronies are becoming universally hated in the vtuber sphere
hololive is alright

>>27348435
I've been seeing this post everywhere, new vshojo shill campaign?

>>27371682
Well, of course they don’t watch holostars, they’re people who exist.

>>27383324
Yeah, they’re based.

>>27385011
I, like the rest of the world, didn’t watch that shit.

>>27354060
these fucking simpcels aping out for not being able to judge a book's cover, jesas

>>27354060
Holy fuck, this can't be real lmao. Do western men really crave idol delusions?

>>27369062
if you have to explain it at such length, it's a cope.

>>27382858
couldn't even make it through this shit, which makes me a seething incel and not a normal human being with a functional gag reflex I guess. thank god there's a place for awful people like me

Come back to china, hololive. The westerners don't deserve you. Defending coco and ended up with nothing is clearly the wrong decision.

>>27388839
Getting rid of the chinks is the best thing that ever happened to Hololive, getting rid of the reddit dragon and judas(2) is a distant third and second respectively. Stay seething forever.

>>27388839
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGk4E9ss95s&t=70s&ab_channel=Maxises

>>27392214
kitchen in the dungeon intensifies

I'm so glad I got into this hobby way earlier, I avoided becoming any of you fucking cunts.

>>27348435
Anon, I know you listen to a lot of voices every day, but please, take your meds

>>27351315
Kys oboretai