/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

meds schizo

good, cry about it. idolshart era is over

>>27342936
Nice made-up scenario except Kson never had anything but good things to say about Holo.

Do it, that way I can know for certain that it’s betrayal and not just business.

>>27342936
Will continue normalizing shitty cunt western behavior in vtubing as a whole and EDUCATE all the "parasocial incels" aka everyone who wants some standard of behavior for the most entitled female streamers in the world. Even more entitled than titty streamers, at least titty streamers have to wash their fucking face and make themselves presentable and put themselves out there for scrutiny.

>>27342936
>pandering the anti Hololive crowd
So Nijisanji will lose all their viewers.

>>27343024
>muh idol culture

>>27342936
That’s been their slogan since they started, moron

> Watch them start pandering the anti Hololive crowd harder tham ever: >Kson in
>Mike in
>Both of them former holos >Hololive antis always use their departure as a way to shit on Cover >Vshojo twitter header "A talent first VTuber company"

good, idol culture is toxic. the japanese corpos can follow by our rules and open up or die in their walled gardens. vshojo literally commander perrying hololive and it's beautiful

>>27343064
Irate incel detected. Deploying trendies to calm subject.

>liberals in this thread wanting western ideals to infect live-streaming anime girls

so this is how it ends. the final yabai.
this medium will become entirely tittystreamers once vwhores are done with it

>>27343244
https://trendies.bg/
Nice

>>27343024
>made a full 3d idol costume just to shill upcoming jp branch on a jp event

>>27343327
better than the toxicity that is hololive's idol culture. let the girls do as they please, freedom for all vtubers

>>27343327
Oh no, sounds terrible

>>27342936
>act like cunts
>make a shit-ton of enemies
>wonder why people dislike you even when they could have made common cause with you
Holobronies...

>>27343327
big twitter trending # recently where indie vtubers were posting pictures of their irl tits next to their vtuber model tits to compare

it's already happened, it started when hololive en and vshojo became big and normies started pouring in

>>27343212
>Shits on Idol Culture
>Mike
How new?

>>27343434
Women without a leash are just whores. A mere look into history shows this pattern recurring in every downfall. Adam was a fool.

>>27343024
based

>>27342936

>>27342936
>Header
They've been running ads in Japan leading up to this, directly targeting the way JP vtuber corpos operate.

... And I love it. Fuck idolfags.

>>27343556
heckin upvoted sister, take all the internets

educate these incel pissbabies

>>27343434
no. thats exactly whats NOT better. its the beginning of the decline of values, heading straight to depravity.

youre anime girls, will be no idfferent than tittystreamers. but sure...hololive bad.

>>27343418
I love wanking to Silver's JOI

>>27343434
>Freedom for all vtubers
But hates idol vtubers
Hypocrisy also has it's limits

>>27343658
It’s almost as if he wants to destroy and usurp the leading power for his own goals.

It's gonna be funny seeing fancucks argue with vshojocucks when the newfags go to rushia4.0 stream and see the gfeshit

>>27343658
the entire backbone of their ideology is two faced double standards hypocrisy, disingenuous bad faith talking points and demoralization gaslighting

they are subhuman and the political types they have a lot in common with can only be reasoned with using a bullet

>>27343658
they can be idol vtubers all they want, but they shouldn't be FORCED to be idol vtubers because of cover's ridiculous policies

>>27343434
>I WANT ALL VTUBERS TO BE FREE
>NO MORE IDOLS, LET THEM BE TITTYSTREAMERS WITH BOYFRIENDS

>>27343630
you're so out of touch with reality. decline of values? straight into depravity? it's 2022, go outside and talk to an actual woman. cover is ridiculously toxic and is putting vtubers back to the stone age. thankfully nijisanji and vshojo have some sense and actually care about their talents

>>27342936
>Vshojo twitter header "A talent first VTuber company"
Just imagine. It would be hilarious.
>average holomem skilled in music, the visual arts, dance, modeling, etc
>average vshitshow skilled in being thot, talking about drinking cum

>>27343916
>go outside and talk to an actual woman
lmao bait/8

This development has shown a substantial amount of hubris in vshojo viewers. I will be intrigued to see how the scales flip again and then see them have to account for all of this

>>27343631
Where can I find this?

>>27344034

>>27343766
anyone who isn't a parasocial incel isn't going to be bothered by this lmao
you're not making a great case

>>27343922
lol
Leave holofags to understand what that phrase means since talent freedom seems to be an alien concept to them.

>>27344034
LOL

>>27343916
Probably bait, but most women have lost their value. They’ve nearly all become slaves to a whoredom.

>>27344043
https://kemono.party/patreon/user/20146355/post/41087130
here, brother

>>27343766
using a mori picture is the icing on the cake

>>27344182
Thank you, brother.

Is there any evidence that it's Mike?

>>27344168
oh i get it you're an incel. yup that's all for this conversation kid, leave this thread to adults with real world and haven't been sheltered in their middle-class suburban bubbles like you
next!

>>27343922
>>average holomem skilled in music, the visual arts, dance, modeling, etc
Maybe 2 or 3 fit this criteria.

>>27344154
>vshojo fags too retarded to read
Damn. It's hard to even see you as people.

>>27344182
>>27344241
The best part about this is how horrible she is at it. It ironically makes me think she's not actually a whore because she clearly has not even the faintest idea how to talk dirty. It's 6 minutes of her saying "I like your big cock" and "my pussy is wet for your big cock" over and over again. I could barely even finish it. Still came though.

>>27344277
No factual evidence but there's so many hints the real surprise would be it not being her.

>>27344188
I'm sure this is ironic but the first and last donations under Chad are the most stereotypical beta simp faggot shit around.

>>27343916
Hololive has inspired some indies and small corpos to have the same limitations as holos, but self-imposed. I'm all for "freedom for all vtubers" but there exists a space for people who want things to be a bit more cleaner. Both Vshojo and Hojosanji JP carry baggage from their respective streaming cultures, but the ones in the middle, specifically EN, some indies and small corpos start things from scratch because they are ENs emulating a Japanese import, and I like that middle culture and I hope it it becomes more prominent.

>>27344336
that is great about it, it reminds me of sexting with my ex, where you can really tell she can barely think past the horny but wants you to be satisfied so their thoughts just loop on themselves
10/10 GFE, almost considered subbing to the Patreon but it seems it was a one of a kind

>>27344154
Do me a favor and outline “talent freedom”.

>>27344331
Keep coping and enjoy your black company or what's left of it. Until another girl jumps ship, that is.

>>27344417
They are vshojo viewers afterall gotta keep the condom fund going strong

>>27342936
>Vshojo twitter header "A talent first VTuber company"
that's been their motto since 2020
it's about the chuubas owning the rights to their characters and being free to do whatever type of content (mostly because of projekt melody at the time)
only schizos here started interpreting it as anti hololive propaganda

>>27343434
The idol thing is fun for the gap moe. Would you call any in HoloEN, ID or X an idol?

>>27344134
people who arent parasocial dont watch streamers

>>27344292
>Maybe 2 or 3 fit this criteria.
Kiara, ina, ame, mori, mumei, sana, irys, watame, marine, sora, suisei, subaru, kobo, risu, moona
>>27344188
>>27344273
https://streamable.com/8tmjld

>>27344491
ame is going to join vshojo this time next year, you heard it here first.
> incredibly creativity that's held back by cover
> already best friends with silvervale
> loves meme culture and has abundant experience on twitch
> knows holo en is going down the shitter
it's over holokeks

>anti Hololive crowd
This doesn't exist. Not in large numbers. The same with any other corpo. The 100 mentally ill people /here/ that have made it their personality to find negativity in vtubing isn't a representative crowd.

>>27344483
I wasn't saying the phrase contains "talent freedom", rather you need to understand that concept first before trying to interpret the header. You obviously failed at both too, congratulations.

>>27344491
Thanks, I will! Enjoy watching rants about alphabet "people" and dicks.

>>27344640
>Post says that the average holo mem is skilled in a variety of things
>You reply with a list of people that are skilled in one of said things at best
Don't hurt yourself moving those goalposts

>>27343434
Hope you enjoy arguing about American politics everywhere you go to then. Ironically, only this shithole will prune that when it happens.

>>27344656
It's more likely for Ame to start her own company than joining vshojo. She has the technology.

>Wait, is that a MALE in my heckin' VTuber collab? *THROWS MONITOR* God I fucking hate MALES! Fuck MALES, fuck BFE, heil GFE, and heil Yuribait!
> Wait, mentioning a MALE on my heckin GFE KINO COMFY Minecraft stream?!! *PUNCHES monitor* who these WHORES think i am?!! i just donated FUCKING 100$ this YEAR!
> Wait, this WHORE didn't stream today... *smashes keyboard* DOESN'T she have ANY FEELINGS? SHE'S my VIRTUAL GIRLFRIEND! NOW I'M FUCKING LONELY

>>27342936
oh no not the anti-idol-cultures twitter trannies!

>>27344805
So you're saying you don't actually watch and enjoy vtubers at all and are just here to crush le heckin' toxic idol culture huh.

>>27344805
>"sexual and romantic intimacy is a basic need"
>You're not owed anything, incel! Enjoy being forever alone.

>>27343434
They arent vtubers, retardkun

>>27344734
Mori's art and animation are pretty cool. She's not a hobbyist either since she uses those for work. Rather unfortunate that she rarely draws or animates for Hololive.

>>27343522
Based on faggotry.

>>27344188
>>27344648
Anon i don't know how to tell you this, but no man watches a girl streaming for hundreds of hours and gives her thousands of dollars just because he thinks she is funny.

>>27343556
>They've been running ads in Japan
entirely in english

>>27344805
>implying donating $100 dollars isn't "enough"
>implying it's fine to just take a bunch of random breaks when REAL streamers who aren't entitled women hiding behind an anime girl picture often stream 7 days a week for no less than a full work day, which would be considered an incredible mindmelting feat for almost any entitled vtuber whore except Korone
man women and their simps are so fucking entitled

>>27344111
How long until Kson's twitter is full of political tweets?

>>27344734
>Vshojotrannies unironically unable to read
What cooming does to a "person"

>>27342936
>Watch them start pandering the anti Hololive crowd harder than ever
the Chinese?

>>27342936
I want anime idol concerts
I want music
I want effort and goals
I want actual fucking production value
I don't wanna watch some retard talk about how much they drank yesterday, I can get that in any other twitch streamer. I'm gonna predict that this whole debacle is gonna be a two to three week novelty and then everything goes back to way it was.

>>27343556
Freedom to talk about American politics. Love it.

>>27345104
I give it a couple weeks until the tranny coomer fanbase finds her yabs and submits her to a struggle session.

>>27345244
Nothing will ever go back to the way it was. Culturally, in both every day life and entertainment, we are on a steady spiral downwards. It will never change until everything crashes and has to be remade. Everything you enjoy as it was or even as it is now is gone or will be soon, respectively. Agents of degradation will never stop.

>>27345140
and Unicorns

>>27345140
Is that the level of cope vtrannies are at now?

>>27345244
nah, pandora's box is open. now every hololive girl knows they can just drop cover, wait a year, and redebut under a different company that actually respects its talents, gives them creative freedom, and doesn't screw them over on merch profits
vshojojp is already advertising in japan. it's only a matter of time now. cover has a fire under its ass, and given how they've responded to controversies in the past, they're going to fuck up everything and watch as their talent leaves for greener pastures

>>27345140
Nijiniggers

>>27343450
>>27343725
>>27343765
>but they shouldn't be FORCED to be idol vtubers because of cover's ridiculous policies
What policies? List them. Didn't known cover had idol-forcing policies.

>>27343765
ill bite the bait.
>forced
>is given a contract that says they have to do IDOL things and stuff that's related to IDOL work
>all they have to do is say no and fuck off to be an indie or another corpo
they can say "no thanks, ill go elsewhere" and fuck off. how is it being forced when all you have to do is say no

>>27344134
Tell that to nyanners' dwindling viewerbase post-bf.

>>27345529
are you stupid? as a 2view you have to accept any offer that comes to you if it's to put food on the table. cover takes advantage of these girls. there can never be consent when one actor (cover) has more power than the other (indie 2view)

So, which Vwhore is /here/ spamming lame wojacks to mock having basic standards?

>>27345472
Oh god, yes please. Nijiniggers and vshits finding common ground in how they're all trannies, and tanking their corps by focusing on miserable politainment. Cover is winning already. If they do that, there won't even be such a thing as a non-cover vtuber.

>>27342936
>Rushia
>biggest insane parasocial gfe vtuber ever, which is why the whole drama started to begin with
>Vshojo takes her in
>NijiEN are the only ones that witchunt on parasocial culture

>Vshojo collabs with Mori, Kiara
>HoloEN/ID girls and Vshojo gals are all around friendly and nice to each other and so are their fanbases
>NijiEN are the only ones that are rejected by Cover, not Vshoujo

There's countless of Vshojo vs Hololive threads being made to start shit, but my take on what is happening is different.

>>27345657
>yet still, there are thousands upon thousands of applications sent to Hololive

>>27345657
>there can never be consent when one actor (employer) has more power than the other (person seeking employment)
literally all standards of employment are rape because the employer is operating from a position of power and basically we need hecking communism

>>27345657
Vshitshow fans are unironic far-left extremist trannies, confirmed further with every single post.

>>27345577
??

>>27345657
you don't have to do dick and squat. "accept whatever offer" my ass.
>look at all the starving 2views
yeah i watch koragi and she's doing fine. fuck she got hired by cover to do stuff for kaela's stream. so i should thank cover for giving the 2 view opportunity to do work for them.

>>27345244
why are you watching vtubers when you can just watch idolmaster/love live and get all of those?

>>27345136
Irys is next unless her managers gets their shit together.

>>27345813
no you just need unions, moron.

>>27342936
Would the mouse even be ok with that

>>27345782
Vshojo is pandering to the alphabet people just as hard as NijiEN. They're both a blight.

>>27345782
Which discord is this?

>>27346095
I want an actual person who goes through the struggles and reaches for the light. I don't give two shits about idol stuff outside of vtubing. Vshojo can do whatever they want, but don't expect people to just start going for vshojo because "Muh freedom", there are talents and viewers who don't want to watch/be a person spend 3+ hours just reacting to tiktoks

>>27346300
>be mousey
>because of how her corpo is treating their move to JP loses her chance to talk to holomems again

>>27345657
>as a 2view you have to accept any offer that comes to you if it's to put food on the table
Or you could work a 9 to 5 like normal people do. Clearly a better choice than working under le ebil corpo forcing me to do idol shit.

>>27346300
>He hasn't realized the mouse is a twofaced whore yet

>>27346300
Mouse is a third world raised latina single-___ with AIDS, she'll do whatever for money and fame.

>>27342936
Do Vshojo tards really think they stand a chance? Like come on, you are not even better than Nijisanji.

>>27346095
I used to be an im@s fan and it's easy to see why holo is simply better. Let's say you're a fan of CG, my favorite was anya and I was lucky if she got ONE event a year. This is basically the same for irl idols and probably worse if you're following small time idols who can graduate at any moment. Meanwhile you get streams and entertainment from vtubers all the time and you feel that you get to know them better, idols can't compete with the amount of time spent with fans

>>27346477
Okay well don't expect people to bend over backwards for your retarded vtubing demands. These people are only acting when it comes to idolshit and everything is smoke and mirrors, deal with it

>>27346560
Puerto Rico is part of the USA and she has CVID.

>>27346882
Peurto Rico is still a third world country. And as for the rest, do your reps.

>When you hear the Thunder.
>When the Storm comes for you.
>Remember me.

>>27346961
It's not an independent country, you don't know basic geography.

>>27346804
she won't fuck you dude. You're 1 in whatever streamer number she gets

>you feel that you get to know them better
mental illness expecting a close relationship when she doesn't even know your name or existence

>>27343024
and it's a good thing.

>>27343434
>freedom for all v-tubers
Who gives a fuck? They they want to bet the farm on maybe becoming an e-celeb why is it my business if things arent 100 percent perfect for them? They could always go back to a regular job like the rest of us peasants

>>27346962
rent free
zhing chilling

>>27347195
It's THIRD WORLD, I know it's a fucking territory you pedantic simping know nothing faggot. Go simp for your lying HIV positive third world mom.

>>27343434
The freedom to be enslaved to the woke crowd?

>>27343418
Exactly. Idol culture has been reduced to a gimmick costume

>>27347251
As opposed to anime girls that don't exist or idols that don't even know you as an username? Everyone knows retard, no one thinks they can fuck shibuya rin irl

>>27347335
It was never fair in the first place. Only now do you see.

>>27342936
Honestly, it's more likely for them to clean up their act and pander to the Hololive crowd.

>>27347405
>trying to do damage control after rushing to read Wikipedia
Puerto Ricans are literally US citizens. You cannot be third world if you are part of a first world country.

>>27345244
>open veibae stream out of curiosity
>she's watching internet videos
>not even talking about them, just watching them like a depressed zoomer scrolling through youtube shorts

this is the freedom that i want

>>27347628
>You cannot be third world if you are part of a first world country
You're trying to suggest I'm uneducated while you spout this fucking nonsense? Tell that to a Puerto Rican. It's fucking Mexico tier.

>>27343507
>>27343630
>>27345244
I like anime girls because they look good. I couldn't care less about purity.

>>27344168
I don't care

>>27347711
agreed, I think anime girls look even better when their pale skin is contrasted with big black dick

I just want them to look good, and they look the best like that

upvoted

>>27347662
Just wait half an hour. I'm sure she will tell a story about the taste of her bfs cum and how you're just a walking wallet to her. Y'know.
https://streamable.com/v92q8o

>>27347506
If you know then why bother trying to force yourself in their life like whatever you're demanding? You're not going to see them struggle and reach for their dreams because you're an outsider. Just watch the shitty fairytale being told a million times from an anime/manga perspective because it's the same

>>27347996
Or talk about her vaginal discharges, yeah I am aware.

>>27347697
You are the one ignoring basic geography after got caught on not knowing Puerto Rico was part of the US.

>>27343212
Idols are fine but Cover's weird obsession with making all their talents idols is weird. If they had an idol branch but allowed everyone else to do their own shit that would be fine, but creating a culture where fans think it's okay to harass their talent for talking to a male is dumb.

Pretty much all of the talents are scared of their own audiences. At least Holostars has less restrictions. But Cover rarely remembers they exist and mismanages them too. They're lucky they at least have good managers.

they have nothing to gain from pandering to Hololive antis you gigantic retard, Hololive is the most popular Vtuber agency in the west by far and overwhelmingly liked by just about everyone

>>27347628
>Puerto Ricans are literally US citizens
Only in name, they don't get the same rights as ACTUAL citizens, so they aren't really. They're still a territory of the United States, not a state. Also, geography has nothing to do with whether something is or is not a part of the US. That's a matter of international politics, not geography.

>>27343064
Vtubing is not hololive. Vtubing is not idol culture. Different agencies and different streamers have different standards and you can either take them or leave them.

>>27344134
>Said anonymous on the virtual youtuber board of 4channel
Go back, normalfag. Stop trying to force everything interesting to fit to your milquetoast tastes.

>>27344336
THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT VEIBAE NYANNERS AND FINANA STOP FUCKING TIMELOOPING ANON
YOU KEEP SAYING IT BUT THAT DOESNT MAKE IT TRUE

>>27348424
>Only in name, they don't get the same rights as ACTUAL citizens
They literally have all the same rights as any other citizen of the USA. It would be unconstitutional to deny that.
>Also, geography has nothing to do with whether something is or is not a part of the US
Puerto Rico is literally part of the US you fucking idiot.

>>27342936
I mean they already did with their talent freedom posters

>>27346882
>Puerto Rico is part of the USA
Sure from a legal standpoint, but ask any average amerifat and its a different story

>>27348430
Yes, I'll have no choice but to take them all or leave them all when disingenuous fucking rat faggots like you who should be beaten to death have pushed your anti-standard of behavior on to 99.9% of vtubers and flipped the script so everyone is a fucking horrible whore cunt.

You're a fucking disingenuous rat and you should be fucking killed.

>>27342936
Does Vshojo has something to do with a lot of vsingers with 1k viewers getting suddenly graduated these past months?

>>27347886
BBC lives rent free in your head

>>27348651
ywnbj and your oshi dreams of cock everynight.
please hang yourself.

>>27348614
Geography education in the US is abysmal also.

>>27344134
Wait you seriously think that no one is parasocial by being whiteknights towards tittystreamers?

RUMAO how fucking delusional

>>27348760
>Does Vshojo has something to do with a lot of vsingers with 1k viewers getting suddenly graduated these past months?
Who?

>>27343766
this but unironically

>>27348586
>They literally have all the same rights as any other citizen of the USA
They can't vote in general elections, they receive less Medicaid than everyone else, and they don't get SSI. I'm sure there's some other small things here and there, but those are the differences between them and everyone else that come to mind immediately.
>Puerto Rico is literally part of the US you fucking idiot.
And that is entirely unreliant on geography and entirely reliant on politics, you illiterate, otherwise Canada would be a US territory too. Are you a europoor or just someone who doesn't even understand the workings of his own country?

>>27349084
Same. I watch a mixture of 3d streamers and vtubers.

>>27342936
well one thing i learned, when they talk about 'freedom' they mean free of accountability for shitty behaviour and hypocrisy, is mainly used by libtards to alienate people to be NPCs

>>27345044
Does that make male viewers of male streamers gay? If not then you have the answer to why your post is fucking stupid.

>>27349187
> NPC
ironic

Heh those parasocial losers am I right, now excuse me as I use 24/7 to defend the honor of Veibae, so that she knows how good a person I am...

VShojokeks...

>>27344903
What are you going to do, push for state-mandated marriage and sex?

>>27348863
Quit using Shion to shitpost, faggot.

>>27342936
Vshojo Japan is going to be where all the misfit ex-Hololive girls go. Look forward to Aloe and Chris in the future.

>>27349265
>I am not an NPC, when I post NPC wojak...
Come on anon

>>27345782
haven't seen a faker screenshot in a while and i verify documents professionally

>>27349146
>They can't vote in general elections
There is no constitutional right to vote in the USA you bloody ignoramusen. The same applies to healthcare. Read a book.

>And that is entirely unreliant on geography and entirely reliant on politics
So you don't know what geography even means. Incredible actually.

>>27349448
Suck my cock.

I kinda get mike has no where else to go. But coco’s best schtick in Holo was that she was rube who was a fun foil against all the idols

In vshojo she’ll get buzz as a former member of hololive, but otherwise wont she just blend into the background amongst all the whores?

>>27349146
Bro Texas and California used to belong to Mexico, Floria also didn't originally belong to America. I know burgers like to eat a lot of lead chips, but at least have enough shame to not show how stupid you are.

Puerto Ricans have the same citizenship rights, same as anyone else born on US soil.

>>27349682
You will never be a Shiokko.

>>27349674
Jesus anon, you're seriously embarrassing. Here, argue with Wikipedia or something euro boy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implications_of_Puerto_Rico's_current_political_status#cite_ref-Constitutional_Topic:_Citizenship_18-1

>>27344656
delusional
also her and silver werent as close as rrats say

>>27349946
That literally says that the Supreme Court forced US citizens in Puerto to have all the same rights as other US citizens over time. Excepting for the right to vote, which is not in the US Constitution. You literally cannot read.

>>27349069
Stella and Madoka were the first I think, the last was Uni.
They were vsingers focused on singing streams popular in the vsinger thread.
9 or 10 vsingers graduated in the past 5 months suddenly while giving the impression they were happy and found a better opportunity to grow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msWuBXmNDbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiCKMyNuFYc

Uni's channel is now empty
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDl5qfjqZR5MLN1pogAgBog

>>27349265
>"I support the current thing" forced meme
>literally just events and branding

Do you think conventions open once and never close their doors? That events run forever? Please free yourself from this brainrot anonchama

>>27344134
>Mel
Literal whore who posts politics on her twitter account
>Veibei
Gachikoi who relies purely on her sexy voice and sexual content to attract coomer fans
>Froot
Cheated on her spouse
>Nyanners
Culture Chameleon who will change her views and interests to whatever is most efficacious at this moment and fakes being bisexual for Good Girl Points
>Dragon
Fakes being mute so he can stream as a woman even actual wokesters don't' really like watching trannies
>Sydney
WOW I'M A TITTY ANIME GIRL WHO DOESN'T EVEN TRY TO SEPARATE HER REAL IDENTITY SO QUIRKY AND SUBVERSIVE
>Silver
So boring I almost forgot to include her
>Haruka
Not sure if she counts. If she does, she's inoffensive, but is literally autistic and can't read a room to save her life
>Snuffy
Not sure if she counts either. Openly displays her weird kinks (inflation, blueberry, WG, furry shit) and is generally pretty boring
>Ironmouse
Only decent one in the bunch, but probably because she's bedbound from being a slut in her youth and not practicing safe sex, so she lives the consequences of her actions every day

Garbage morals, garbage people. They're not even actors so you can't separate them from the identity they display.

>>27349313
>acting like you wouldn't enjoy GF mandates

>>27342936
kiara defection soon her slut personality fits vshojo more

>>27349946
The SSI thing is also based on residency. The case where they ruled against was someone who lived in mainline moving to Puerto Rico. If you live there, you don't qualify. But if you were to move to mainland, you're not automatically disqualified. Voting also is based on location. They don't have electors, but that doesn't mean they're second class citizens. They can move to Florida and have full voting rights.

Please stop eating lead anon.

>>27349867
Puerto Rico is a dependent territory. They have the same rights, but there are a lot of legal and financial differences. So do Greenladia and the Faroe Islands for Denmark.

>>27350200
That's interesting, it seems very plausible some of them might end up in VShojo.

>>27350306
>Froot
>Cheated on her spouse and posts politics on her twitter account
Fixed that for you.

>>27350379
They're a territory but it counts as US soil. Everyone born there is granted US citizenship.

>>27343556
What's the point in advertising talent freedom when it's of zero interest to the end consumer?

>>27344656
>literally sleeps with a gun
>believes in multiple "alt-right conspiracy theories that inevitably turn out to be true and that's a good thing"
>hates forced memes
She'll go solo or retire.

>>27349931
I already am one and there's nothing you can do about it.
Cope and seethe.

>>27348863
And my oshi dreaming of cock every night makes it good content when she talks about it on stream, I take?

>>27342936
they're rot in the already questionably bad vtuber community. the more vs grows, the more the community (viewers, streamers, promotions, art, discussion) will be rotten

>>27350488
based

>>27350488
Guess we know who's going to poach her then.

>>27343024
rather than that, the people who originally started watching vtubers for cute anime girls will go back to just watching anime as vtubers turn into generic streamers with a mask
if vshojo is assuming that the vtuber audience is the same audience that watches regular youtubers they're going to end up in a bad place

>>27350319
Are you a commie? I don't need help, I can do it myself.

>>27350306
Bisexual is such a meme. Literally just being straight but can still be "an allied" to the alphabet faggot

>>27350436
Therefore, Puerto Rico is a dependent territory, EOT, because it isn't /pol/

>>27345044
Do you actually watch chuubas that you don't find funny?

>>27350387
Is Vshojo focusing on vsingers?
Looking at the way they all graduated it is likely most of them will end up in a new group but I couldn't think of any group other than Hololive or Nijisanji able to to do this.
Vshojo with 2 big vtubers creating a new JP branch may be the missing factor.
Getting to be a new generation with them could bring them 100-500k subs quickly depending on how it goes.
Maybe Vshojo is trying to copy Hololive's idea of introducing groups of vtubers to create a group dynamic.

>>27350445
What's the point in advertising cage-free eggs when it's of zero interest to the end consumer? Some people do the conscientious consumption shit to feel like they're an educated paypig.

>>27350445
same shit as epic game store
attracts retarded idealists who don't consider their own position

>>27350842
>What's the point in advertising cage-free eggs when it's of zero interest to the end consumer?
Objectively wrong, stressed hens lay lower quality eggs.

If you think they're gonna pander to the anti-holo crowd you're mistaken. They're going full Hololive Lite with their JP branch. It's going to look like a completely different company to western Vshojo fans. That's why they hired the Queen of GFE herself. All their talk about hating parasocial shit will be just that when it comes to the JP branch. They're tossing away any identity they had as a company for the gachikoi bucks.

>>27350797
VShojo doesn't have professional singers so they hypothetically maybe could be plugging a gap. Ironmouse could have been, but then she got disabled.

The other company I could think that would be interested in VSingers is Sony, but they don't really seem to put that much hope on their VTuber projects.

>>27350984
>That's why they hired the Queen of GFE herself.
No, they did it in order to have heavy hitting names to shill their branch with, because no jap gives a fuck about VShojo.

>>27350797
>Maybe Vshojo is trying to copy Hololive
this is the funniest possible outcome

>>27350772
Yeah but they have the same citizenship rights, so you're a dipshit. If you physically live in Puerto Rico some stuff is different, but you don't have a different class of citizenship.

>>27344656
The only one I could see going to Vshojo is Calli because she's close friends with a bunch of them, but she's tied to hololive due to the UMG deal.

What's this about Ame and Silvervale, I've been out of this board for months, only here today to laugh at the drama.

>>27350501
I don't understand how a supposed Shiokko could use the retarded YWNBJ phrase (invented by EN tourists to cope that not everyone likes the ENs) when Shion is one of the most insulated HoloJPs. Furthermore, she has one of the most gachikoi fanbases in the entire company, yet here you are counter-signalling gachikoi ideals.

>>27345104
Normally she isn't going to talk or tweet those shits but 2 months of influence from nyanshit and the trannies from her discord + tts dragon can change her
Good thing i dropped her ages ago so i can laugh at the shitshow instead

>>27349265
Me? Watching Korone 10 hours vod right now. Feels amazing having so much content to watch

>>27351041
You think they'd get Mike to spearhead a company of veibaes and melodys? No, she signifies that the JP branch will be very different from the western one. They even gave her a loli model. This isn't going to be "Vshojo but in Japanese", it's going to be a different thing with a different strategy.

>>27351248
Kson is the veibaes and melodys already and she's half of the branch.

>>27343327
>the final yabai.
This is, actually. Just like you said Vwhoring will become the norm at least in the West.
This is why I said years ago that letting EN whores into the vtuber sphere was a terrible idea but nobody believed me. Watch it now become like Vtwitchbers.

>>27351080
People sperg out that Silver and Ame's PL were good friends, but in reality, Silver had Ame's roommate rig her old old 3D model and that was it.

>>27351099
I enjoy her content. I reward her monthly. I'm yet to decide whether her merch is worth it, though. Nothing less, nothing more.
This doesn't mean I'd like to have 200 Shions. I never was a gachikoi and never will be, for anyone. I also just generally dislike that cancerous attitude of yours.
Got it?

>>27351501
It's a natural evolution.
>nerds are weirdos therefore no one panders to them
>businesspeople want to make it big on the market but until they can do that they have to find a way
>they start catering to nerds to fill the gap
>once they become popular among nerds they get noticed by the mainstream
>this is how they get a large foothold in the mainstream sphere
>once this is achieved, nerds are no longer needed and even detrimental to the expansion of the watered down business in the mainstream
You are a stepping stone and you have to get used to it.

>>27350650
How sad is it that out of all of the people who started a company of sad anime girls, Fishman probably has the best management track record.

And he fucking hired Pippa.

>>27349229
women arent funny you fucking moron

>>27344903
>>27344903
Then kill yourself
Any "man" who is not able to get a girl even less satisfy her with his cock should had not been born in the first place.

>>27351734
t. /r9k/

>>27351734
>>>/r9k/

>>27351835
>>27351896
ironic thats what the bots respond with

>>27351990
cope harder nigger

>>27351099
Anon you are thinking about it way too hard.
They only use shion because of her smug face just like watame kind of, almost nobody in this board watches her.
>>27350200
Stella and Madoka already gone long time ago, i don't think Stella ever comes back as another vtuber personally; ;
Uni however might join, she is a massive numberfag and she might see someone who can speak both en and jap like kson in vslutjo could be very successful

>>27351556
I'm not the guy that told you that you should be killed. Whatever, if you really are a fan, then you should know she wants her fans to behave online. And I'm not saying every vtuber has to be like Hololive, but people who counter-signal Hololive's standards are almost always doing it because they want Hololive to capitulate to them, not because Hololive is somehow exerting influence over the rest of the industry's behavior; it's not, that much is obvious when you look at the rest of the players on the board.

>>27352028
Perhaps.

>>27352027
im not the one seething

I do not care. If they're happy, that's all that matters. Plus I don't watch them.

END OF THREAD

>>27348149
>idol company is weird for hiring people to be idols.
>the fans harass the talents if they talk to a men.
For that second claim I’d need some proof. The voices in your head aren’t enough.

>>27348050
>trying to force yourself in their life
Autism

>>27352028
It's barely been 3-4 months since they graduated.
I am certain they will keep being vtubers.
They would not have left happy during their graduation stream if they didn't think they would come back later.
Sephira/Lapis took 1 year and 5 months to reincarnate on her own as an indie and gave a similar impression in her last song that it was just temporary.

>>27343434
Freedom to show your tits on stream. Just be a porn star.

This isn't about the antis or whatever.
Rather, this is both an stament and an experiment.

This is a statement saying "I don't give a fuck, I'm going in for everything" from Vshojo. They won't lose the opportunity to snatch talents away. This is now direct competition.

And this is a experiment in the sense that, if this works out, it'll show that people will stick to the talents no matter what and that placing them under restrictions like those of Idol culture does nothing. I wouldn't be too surprised if, in the case of green woman and kson succeding in Vshojo, other members within HoloEN just say "fuck it" and follow their steps.

>>27353221
>it'll show that people will stick to the talents no matter what
I'm pretty sure that mike was already enough proof of that. Also I like how you jumped from leaving holo to joining vshojo for strange reasons instead of going indie

Imagine paying attention to a female who has a bf

>>27353648
Does it make a difference when you will never meet the real person?
Both are out of reach.

>>27351130
Korone has a boyfriend(s), but wont tell you

>>27342936
Assuming that Mikeneko is the second member, pandering to the anti unicorn crowd would be a retard move, 90% of her audience are unicorns

>>27353895
Yes, it does make a difference, you're a fucking cuckold and a faggot.

If you contribute emotional, psychological, and financial resources and energy to a woman who has a boyfriend you are a fucking pathetic faggot. You are a much worse example of manhood than even the most pathetic locked away shut in incel.

>>27353420
because indie doesn't pay obviously

>>27354249
Hello? Based Department? Yeah you're going to want to see this one

kys trannies i will not let you take away my hobby

>>27354249
Holy Based

>>27354249
unfathomably based

>donates money to vtuber with boyfriend with message "Thanks for existing, keep it up, love to see you"
>"It's entirely entertainment for me, I'm not some loser parasocial incel. I just contribute here and there. Get a life if you care she has a boyfriend, gachikoi, you're the weirdo."

>Gives gifts of money and jewelry to IRL female friend who has a boyfriend randomly because she hangs out with him, saying how he appreciates her company so much and the fact she's in his life
>"What do you mean you're going to beat me to a pulp for macking on your fly honey? I'm not some weirdo nice guy, please understand, Chaddarius! ACK-"

>>27343507
Men without a leash are just whores. A mere look into history shows this pattern recurring in every downfall. Eve was a fool.

>>27354249
vtrannies destroyed

>>27354830
>Gives gifts of money and jewelry to IRL female friend who has a boyfriend randomly because she hangs out with him, saying how he appreciates her company
It's sad isn't it? Paying for female company.

>>27354249
It still makes you a cuckold in both cases with your argument even if she doesn't have a boyfriend because you won't get sex in exchange.
Why do you post on /vt/ then? Are you a cuckold in denial?

>>27355555
Checked!

>>27354249
alpha fucks &
beta bucks

>>27355555
Witnessed!

>>27355555
Not everything is about sex.
Coomers don't understand and should neck themselves along with their vshitshow kin

>>27355555
Checked

>>27343119
Total win.

>>27354249
I pay money for strippers to dance on stage they probably have boyfriends I don't care, I also spend money for vtubers to sing and shit they probably have boyfriends too.

>>27343434
muh freedom why amuricans whores like this

>>27350306
>Only one of them has actual garbage morals, but since I hate everyone, all of them are garbage people.

>>27350306
Mel does porn but honestly is the most likable of the bunch.

>>27343434
>let the girls do as they please, freedom for all vtubers
you need to understand that any restrictions are due to youtube's policies and not muh idol culture but sure go ahead and fight your imaginary enemy don quixote

>>27343765
>cover's ridiculous policies
what policies?
*watch them not respond*

>>27344336
Most women suck at being dirty. They're usually posers. Even the whores are likely very bad at sex compared to the experiences they've had.

>>27362671
You know, not being openly whores and maintaining at least some level of kayfabe. How dare cover make vtubers act like vtubers.

>>27343449
Holobro don't want Truth!!!

>>27349265
>ironic
yea, exactly. it's fascinating how little self-awareness bugs like you have
move on drone
also, try and make your own memes

>>27362671
Not being able to talk about how much cum they slurp daily and having their asses eaten out (Veibae content), cuck shit (Nyanners content), scamming people by pretending to be dying and saying you got mere months left to live for years (Ironmouse content), no idea what the tranny does so I'm going to say react shit (Zentraya content), well they DO have the not streaming part done with Ayame (Hime content)

>>27363475
>scamming people by pretending to be dying and saying you got mere months left to live for years
NTA but having had friends with "a few months to live" that's honestly just how it goes sometimes. It's not like doctors have some death calendar to look at and know the exact date of your death, they just go by statistics and how other people with your disease progression went, and sometimes yeah things look surprisingly stable for a long time until suddenly they aren't.

I miss you so much Mike ;_;

https://youtu.be/3ghW013If6g

Pekora cried for you you whore

>>27342936
Good. Fuck Hololive.
Don't @ me holobronies.

>>27342936
>kson joining the vs
>living on LA
can't wait for the interracial bbw kson art flood on pixiv

>>27350306
Haruka and Snuffy aren't part of vshitshow, they're orbiters. Snuffy also got turned down on the auditions if the rrats were true.

>>27361717
If I can't coom to a vtuber she's worthless.

>>27342936
cant wait for going WOKE

>>27343418
shitting on vshojo for throwaway outfits doesn’t really work considering they commission new ones every few months, Nyanners even had that 3D model she used with Kizuna and it was scrapped right after

>>27352879
>Showing tits and having sex are the same thing!

>>27345657
>as a 2view you have to accept any offer that comes to you
No you don't. You cane just... Get a real job.

>>27353993
I do not care

>>27370321
Porn doesn't always involve actual sex

>>27342936
This is like a WWE vs AEW situation.
Hololive will continue to be an unstoppable titan, and Vshojo will be insanely popular for a fleeting moment before slowing down.
We've already passed the "attitude era" for V-tubers. Their popularity has already peaked.

>>27342936
Its kind of funny that Vshojo has a reputation for being a company of whores and they hire the two former Holos who are popular for being whores.

>>27343418
ZAMN! Silver looking MAD breedable in that

>>27343418
>IdOl cUlTuRe BaD
>*pretends to be idols to leech*

>>27344188
you could have at least made the akasupas from chad not have a literal npc face

>>27350488
Amelia Watson? What the fuck I love Hololive now

https://twitter.com/oke_yzw/status/1543469479962636288
https://twitter.com/oke_yzw/status/1543469479962636288
https://twitter.com/oke_yzw/status/1543469479962636288

>>27371362
Who would be Cody in this situation

>>27354246
Which is why I don't understand why Mike joined a company whose members and fans alike openly shat on her fans that she tries really hard to appeal to and even her style of content.

>>27372228
If she were smart she’d still be in hololive anon

>>27348149
>hololive
>an IDOL vtuber corp
>making all their talents idols
wooow what a shocker, how could they do that. how can an IDOL vtuber corp make all their hires IDOL vtubers.
why can't you people be happy you got kson and mike angelo? like can you not be happy? or are you just using a copy pasta from your discord group

>>27343765
Then they shouldn't have signed up for the job. That's literally what the job is, they knew this when they auditioned for the roles. Don't like it? Then quit.

>>27342936
>Another seething thread

>>27352318
NTA, but there was the Towa incident. And recently people thought a knock on Laplus' door was her BF, but was revealed to be her (female) friend who helps cook for her and stuff because Lapu is unironically incompetent at cooking/cleaning/etc. cause she's another member of the Yagoo's Home For Broken Girls club

But usually the people harassing aren't fans. Shit, some of Rushia's biggest gachikois were willing to overlook the Mafumafu thing, which shocked me.

>>27372076
T o T

>>27344491
How is Cover in anyway a Black Company?

>>27372871
They hired Flare, Sana, Minato Aqua, and the honorary black girl Mori.

>>27372228
She doesn't understand English for one and is probably just following Kson.

>>27351734
What is funny however is that these "people" are too delusional to realize this
>she IS funny cause i laff
You're laughing cause you're attracted to her. If a guy said the same joke you'd be as stone faced as someone who just lost a loved one. I also laugh at cute chuuba girls' jokes, I'm just not delusional about the reason why I laughed. White people were a mistake

>>27372228
When you're desperate for money, you'll do anything

So would the Japanese branch need permissions from game companies now and would they get them?

>27344648
>virgin infiltrator trying to hard to pretend to be a unicorn by wearing a holo shirt and glueing a croisant onto their foreheads, not fooling anybody
>uniCHAD with a large masculine horn naturally grown on his forehead, ignoring the virgin baitfag and just enjoying his cute chuubas

>>27374773
No, it's the Japanese branch of an American company in name only. It's still a part of Vshojo the main branch.

>>27374888
people already know what holofans look like and they dont look like that

>>27372804
People also tend to forget that the real psycho's giving Rushia shit weren't her gachikois but Mafu's yumejos. Those bitches are fucking nuts but no hate was pushed their way and all the blame was placed on Rushia's fans instead because "fat, ugly, incel men must be at fault, it couldn't possibly be the women"

>>27342936
Funny /vt/ is seething over this.

>>27354983
>attempt to invert it but you forgot that Eve seduced Adam
Better luck next time, although she was indeed a fool.

>>27372539
Being happy is not a thing people do. What matters is other people are sad. Everyone being happy is an impossibility, for the lack of sad people would upset some mongoloids who hate seeing anyone happy cept themselves.

>>27345782
honestly i already took the nijisanji pill long ago with rosemi,
nijisanji seems to actually make interesting content first most and idol shit or whore shit secondar

>>27346882
>>27346961
>>27347195
>>27347405
>>27347628
>>27347697
>>27348103
both are third world shit holes with gang rapes and violence and riots in the streets daily lmao.

>>27351556
i hate your way of typing but i like that you hold egoist ideals.

based
should go read max stirner

>>27342936
Kson parted on good terms with Cover, her wife still works for Cover, and Vshojo members have desperately been trying to get /in/ with Hololive for months now. There won't be any sort of anit-Hololive rhetoric going on unless Michael has a menhera episode and talks about something she shouldn't.

>>27344535
thats only cuz of nyanners

>>27345463
You should be a YA fantasy writer anon. You have a vivid, if stupid, imagination.

>>27345248
It's funny you say that when easily their biggest member, Mouse, actively shits on politics and will tell anyone to fuck off if they try to bring it into her stream. She's mentioned many times she doesn't know how her own mother can enjoy politics so much since she fucking hates talking about any of that shit since she wants to just chill.

>>27380839
Mouse is actually a good one, even if the rrats are true (and I believe them). If the rest of vshojo were like her they would be my favorite company.

>>27381397
I have no idea why anyone care about her rrats anyway, none of them are bad. They're just normal real life things.

I'm extremely glad this happened in any case. Hololive has been stagnant now for a good while, and something needed to come and shake up things.

>>27343765
>cover's ridiculous policies
made them the top company and millionerds, surely you know better than anon

"Hololive is an EVIL tax stealing corpo" says the millionaire moving to texas for tax breaks when she was on the verge of homelessness just a single year prior.

>>27382130
I fail to see how that's an argument. You could defend any big company (or really...any entity) with that shit, and all the other person can assume is that you're a retard who sees something succesful and popular as automatically also being good.

I have nothing against most of them but I really dislike Vei and Nyanners. As long as those two stay the hell away from the JP branch then I'm all for this but it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth knowing that Vei has essentially shit on everything Mikeneko stands for multiple times, trashing both her gachikoi and streamers like her, and that Nyanners was giving a free pass to CCP rhetoric (exylic + reactions, pic related) in her discord at the worst point of kson's harassment.
I give no shits about purity or whatever, I just think that those two specifically aren't very good people and if they suddenly act buddy-buddy with people they've directly or indirectly disparaged in the past it just comes off as gross to me.