/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Bros? You told me Hololive was the only good corporation and that everyone wanted to be there... Why is the greatest vtuber in your organization in Vshojo now?

>>27320479
Who the hell is Amemiya Nazuna?

>>27320479
WHORE BROS WE WON

>>27320683
fresh new chuuba for vshojo JP

>>27320815
Is she their version of Froot?

Will Kson's youtube channel become just for VODs?

>>27320683
Rushia lets be honest. She's got nothing interesting going on

>>27320683
the cat

>>27320683

>>27320479
stupid cunt. joining this garbage whore company after saying she'd never join another big vtuber company after leaving hololive

Two literal whos

Congrats

>>27321286
It’s Rushia and Coco

>>27321352
Who? Literally, who?

does calli know about this?

>>27321259
>big
She technically didn’t lie.

>>27320479
LOL

>>27321200
why do they keep using that artist on the left they arent good

I like a few talents in vshojo but did they really hype a website & 2 jp streamers, I’m pretty sure some people were at least expecting a en streamer too.

Imagine all the chuubas that fell for the auditions scam

>>27321455
Mori AND Haachama knew about it!

>>27321200
>heterochromia eyes
>menhera design
hmm, I saw it somehere before

>>27320635
It may be good for the fans, but that doesn't mean some talents wouldn't rather join Vshojo and become typical e-thots who treat streaming as some social dating thing.

This is obviously part of Ksons big 4D chess plan to overshadow the EN shojos with her recognition. Soon Vshojo will become Kshojo! In a year, we will have forgotten who pink cat and melody are! Trust the plan, patriots are in control! -Kanon

>>27321441
You know who

People do realize this means every Holo that has issues with Cover can just bounce and be ready to join a new corpo in exactly one year right?
Kson just proved that anyone smart enough to build up a ground game on the side can tell cover to piss off or give them more freedom

>>27321200
They seriously paired her up with a slutty version of Kanata?

>>27322138
oh nooooo
wait
oh yeeeees

>>27322138
time will tell if joining will even be a good move though. im assuming they will want her to stream exclusively on Twitch which japs dont use nearly as much as YT

>>27320479
I'm guessing Kson's contractual obligations to Hololive ended on the 1st of July when one year passed since her graduation allowing her to join Vshojo with nothing left to hold her back from her new home and new friends.

Michael cat is cuter

>>27322138
Wait, people who quit jobs can go on to get different jobs? What the fuck

>>27322138
Niji was always an option if they wanted to jump ship. As far as I know that's only happened the opposite way.

>>27322138
They can also just negotiate better contracts with Hololive and pressure management if they're being annoying.

>>27322138
>Niji and holo both accepted streamers that left their previous work
>Niji and holo have (now) both had streamers leave them for another company
It goes both ways.

>>27320479
Why? What are the benefits? Momentary exposure to twitch simps via “the debut’?

>>27320479
so is that why vshojo was pushing hard for japan?

Time to revive the old drama about michaell cat hating people with black skin and Kson laughing at trans people

>>27321259
It isn't a big company and iirc all it does is merchandising

>>27322585
Or, you know, different companies have different focuses and maybe they jump ship because the other company's focus is what they want for their career. You jump ship to Hololive because Hololive has a strong music focus so you do it if you want a launchpad to launch your musical career. Niji doesn't, so you see the ship jumping happen in that direction. If you want more freedom with what you stream, Vshojo seems to be the place. That might've influenced Kson's decision here. It really depends on what you want to career to focus on.

>>27320479
I actually liked you, fucking bitch

>>27322138
it's pretty sad that anyone would so blatantly jump ship for another company. it's shameless and disgusting behavior, only the lowest and worst people (like Kson) would do that sort of thing. pic unrelated

>>27320479
So when will she announce she have a boyfriend IRL???

>>27322138
Which big enough Holos have problems with Cover?
I remember Marine saying she had a project cancelled, and Gura had one too, but outside of that I don't know others.

>jewtubers seething that twitch is going to be the better platform soon for vtubing.

I'm guessing the money wasn't that good after going it alone for a while and now has to latch on back into another company for relevancy. She was always a flip flopper. Clearly she didn't live up to the creativedad promise she set out for herself.

>>27323327
The bar is so low, you would have to dig a hole to be worse.

>>27321352
>Rushia
Now that's gonna be interesting...

Holy shit she really did it

>>27322138
I’m still waiting for Calli to jump ship, you know she wants to badly

>>27323327
Change the name to /vt/witching

>>27321200
>debuting together with an angel
Sounds like a bad joke.

>>27323624
Yeah, I'm sure Calli, the one person with a multi year UMG contract, will jump ship to stream when all she wants to do is make music.

>>27322675
Vshoujou literally has CIA and Jew's networking, you can't find a better corpo than that

>>27323624
She's probably talking with UMG weekly to get that arranged

>>27321200
Cute. Didn't expect such a loli-ish design from Vshojo.

>>27321455
Can’t imagine how pissed she is. Cali stole Cocos meme review and Coco called her out on it.

>>27323725
>>27323701
This is just proof any retard can get signed to UMG. She’s gonna simply fade out and get dropped

>>27321531
Brand cohesiveness. We know, /vsj/ has been complaining about that artstyle for years now, but Gunrun won't change artists.

>>27323624
If Mori jumps ship she will never touch this industry again. She'd rather just become your usual twitch ethot to try and snag more collabs with Charlie.

>>27323730
pink cat signed off on this, btw
thank you pink cat

>>27322138
Everyone can bounce to anywhere, it doesn't depend on the corpo, it depends on your fans following you.

Unless Rushia becomes a completely different person and that tuns her fans away on her own, she'll be just fine.

>>27323967
Unless her money stops coming in, she goes where the money goes. You think kson and mike joined vshojo because of some altruistic principles?

>>27321352
Seriously?

>>27323295
Pego had a project idea rejected.

>>27323967
Yeah, I doubt she would use another avatar.

>>27322138
Is this the newest cope narrative for tatsunokeks? Coco isn't smart, she just happens to be a whore who knows other whores

what a based bitch

>>27323624
Yeah, I'm sure she's salivating at the chance to cancel her UMG contract as Mori and wait a year to join a vtubing agency when she doesn't even like streaming all that much.

>>27323295
Haachama does right?
Not that I think she would ever join Vshojo. But she's complained about higher ups a few times right?

>Creative freedom

>>27324247
Haachama for some weird reason has the most freedom in hololive.

I'm not upset but this leaves a weird feeling in the pit of my stomach.

AHAHHAHAHHAhAHAHA
I KNEW IT

>>27324257
Oh no not an ass anything but that!!!

>>27324355
It's daijoubu anon. You'll see it's not so bad eventually. If you trust KSon, maybe give the Vshojo girls a fair chance.

>>27320479
Come back Chang, all is forgiven.

>>27323327
You’re beyond delusional if you think twitch will be good for any kind of streaming in the next few years

>>27322138
>u guys people can quit companies!!

>>27323327
>forced ads
>starting to take a bigger cut even from partners
Yeah, I'm sure the platform that's going downhill somehow will be better.

>>27324538
>delusional
>vshojo fans
I got bad news

>>27320479
Does this mean there is now a non-zero chance of collabing with Holomems?

wtf i love vshojo now

So this is proof she just hated hololive, right?

>>27320479
I kneel

>>27321259
Thats cause the only other big one at that time was nijisanji

>>27322138
Good, cover upper management is absolute arse and anything that puts the pressure on them is good. I always hated their iron grip on everything the chuubas built up and the shitstained suits at the top leeched from to a digusting degree.

>>27324812
kek, yep

So who are the other new members?

>>27323295
Everyone has problems with the company, problems bad enough to leave an cushy 7 figures job? Only coco's retarded enough to do that and even then she knew she would still make 7 figures

>>27324247
Unless it has suicide in it, which is what stopped her videos early last year, Haachama does whatever she wants.
But Coco was the one that convinced both her and Marine to stay in Holo after she graduated, so I also don't think they'd just quit like that.

>>27320479
Hope vshojo collabs with holoEN are banned now.

>>27322138
>>27320479
What this timing tells me is that at least since gen 4 Holo has had a 1-year non-compete clause in their contracts

>>27325791
> Hope vshojo collabs with holoEN are banned now.

>>27325791
No, but Niji x Vshojo are definitely banned now. You can thank Luxiem chink fans.

>>27325940
>> Hope vshojo collabs with holoEN are banned now.

>>27326101
kek this

>>27321771
This, Holo is good for us Holofags, no whore likes to be restricted, that includes all of the talents.

>>27325598
Mikeneko.
No one else, apparently.
What do you mean "auditions"..?

>>27326101
why?

>>27326283
Lurk a thousand years.

>>27325791
Only if Rushia is actually in.

>>27326231
We have creative freedom

>>27326368
delete this

>>27326335
I am a straim and not chink man.
How the fuck i am supposed to know what the fuck happens in Vox Xi Ping chats?

Am I the only one that think this will be bad for KSON? I feel like Vshojo is a time bomb until everyone is kneeling to SJWs and shitting eachother for virtue points.

>>27320479
Wait, is Nazuna really MikeCat? This changes everything, Cover better start treating their talents well because now they DO have a way to just keep their career going.

>>27326438
No, because kson is literally like that too

>>27326430
The news barely just dropped. Nothing happened yet.
But you very well know what’s going to happen if any niji try to collab with a company that support kson.

This board is so blinded by hate for vshoujo that you can’t even comprehend the benefits of being part of a corpo that gives you tremendous freedom while also providing networking, marketing, and legal resources.

>>27323327
Youtube is so fucking shit and somehow Twitch manages to be a worse platform.

>>27323133
Nigger, Cover has always been given shit for how badly they fuck things up, this is only GOOD for the talents, knowing they can exer pressure on the company.

>>27326438
Vshojo is a timebomb because having no management is fucking retarded, they almost fucked themselves with the audition fiasco just because one talent was a retard

>>27326449
She was keeping it going as MiguelGato. Any holo can leave and be fine. That's always been obvious.

>>27326449
just based off the voice at the end of the video. It really does seem like Rushia/Mike Cat has joined Vshojo.

>>27326573
If anyone had those advantages without a company behind them, it was Kson, though

>>27326430
>>27326553
chinks have a hate bonner for Coco and Kson for daring to pronounce the word "Taiwan".
NIjisanji panders heavily to chinks.

Now every major EN corpo is isolated.

NijiEN x HoloEn collabs are banned.
Vshojo x NijiEN collabs are going to be banned
Vshojo x HoloEn collabs will be banned by a resentful Yagoo.

>>27326430
That's the point, Chinks had the biggest hard on hate for Coco, and followed her to Kson for a while, and Anycolor has confirmed chink investors. Also Kson joined an American company, since the rrats have pointed they attacked Coco more than Chama because she's an American. Put all of these things together, the chinks would never allow anyone to come close to Coco/Kson or whatever she's associated with.

>>27320635
>Greatest VTuber in Hololive
>Coco
RUMAO that is not true

>>27326573
>networking
You can get in vshojo's clique without being in vshojo
>marketing
This is like the first time they actually do marketing, who knows if they'll continue after their JP campaign is over
>legal resources
Lmaoooo

>>27326573
>hiring Rushia
>networking, marketing, and legal resources.
If by that you mean "Cover blacklisting your ass"

>>27326735
Just saying, Vox has said Taiwan before, his chinks didn't care.

>>27326735
Yes for all except this one
>Vshojo x HoloEn collabs will be banned by a resentful Yagoo.

The vtuber world will be separated into chink-supporting and chink-banned.

>vshojo JP is real

>>27326449
Holos like Mel and Noel make more money with their roommates than in Holo, and most of the rest could turn indie at any time because they are easy to recognize.
Kson can serve as example of "give me better terms of that'll be me in a year", but then again most Holos don't have that temperament.

>>27323730
>>27324020
>>27322247
>pink cat trying to take kanata's place

Mori will be next
pleasee

>>27326926
at least one of them does.

>>27320683
Michael and his Cat.

>>27326438
No because your delusions about left wing people being psychopaths is unfounded and it’s not like vshoujo girls have been free from yabs. To put it more plainly: you have an irrational fear of “SJWs” and left wing beliefs like being pro trans are popular with their audience, so there’s not really any risk.

>>27326573
>and legal resources
We know from the doxing fiasco and the front dmca that their "legal department" are incompetent clowns that do more harm than good.

>>27326588
Coco's (and most of the holos desu) are simply cowards and don't know how to get shit done, Towa was already firing managers before her graduation

>>27326841
Chinks don't care about name, they even call taiwan by taiwan. They just don't want any implication that taiwan is independent, showing the taiwanese flag, etc.

>>27326965
Yeah, I'm sure someone who has no interest in streaming over making music will get out of a contract with the largest label to jump ship to another company because of someone she hasn't thought about in a year.

Holo end is near holobros, i kneel.

>>27327092
All it took was the word "taiwan" for them to start harassing her

>>27326965
i bet Chama will be next

>>27326965
Everything that she's built is linked to the character of Mori. If she jumps ship her career dies.

>>27324257

>>27327100
she gets along much better with vshojos and vshojo adjacent people than with Holos

>>27324257
I see that cellulite.
Age is coming and so am I!

>>27327172
People said the same about Rushia and Coco.

>>27320479
Holo/vshojo monday night wars doko? The analogy has to become official at some point it's the fucking lowest hanging fruit

Guess Melody really pulled gigantic strings to make K-Son in
>>27321200
>Model looks like 50% Kanata
Did the biatch helped on the model?

>>27327326
Coco and Rushia didn't have contracts linking her characters with major labels.
This would be more like Suzy leaving.

All Coco defenders can literally go fuck themselves now. Cope with calling people zhang's when a bunch of non chinks disliked her for a very good reason.

>>27327134
Kek no, Coco showed the Taiwanese flag on 2 separate streams over where her viewers are coming from. Also if you believe the rrat that the Chinks picked out Coco because she's American, that's another reason.

>>27327445
I don't care, the fact Chinks hate her is enough reason to support her.

>>27322138
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
Please I want the big corpo implosion.

Imagine these weasels taking 50% and making outrageous profits from their streamers when vtubing is such a flithy cheap inversion...
When even 3view shitter corpos can have models on par with Hololive and play the same dogshit games like Minecraft and such.
It's a fucking wonder how vtubing corpos have not being accused of money laundry from racking these profits out of such a easily replicable activity.
Literally no vtuber is chained to a company, they can stream and be active on their side accounts, they all keep a decent chunk of their paypigs like Rushia and Coco when they bounce, all of these vtubers only lose money from these companies that take their income.

My fucking wet dream is the end corpo mediocrity. a future where vtubers own their channels and characters and form networks and collabs as they see fit. Corpos have been capitalizing vtubing for way too long.

Fucking yikes
But then again she already collabed with absolute garbage like Connor, Nuxtaku and the chaturbate whore

So I guess it's hard to go any lower

>>27322138
Good, if anyone is willing to join VShojo instead of staying in hololive i would prefer that they do that.

>>27326981
This is an optics game tho. And left Wing people optics suck

>>27327556
Vshojo is a corpo

>>27327682
barely

>>27327682
But since 2 people that were in Holo are now in VShoujo, VShoujo is the only good one.
So the logical thing to do is let everyone join VShoujo until someone leaves, and VShoujo becomes bad.

>>27327556
So you're saying they should seize the means of production?

>>27327477
Vshojo : Hell yeah trans rights
Chinks : Hell no trans rights
Yeah, I'm with China on this one

>>27324925
This image doesn't make any sense anymore, since both doesn't have their dragon gimmick.

It's so fucking over
HAHAHAHAH

>>27326754
AYO?! Is that the Tiananmen Square Massacre of '89?!?!?!?!?!?!

>>27327445
Seethe harder Chang

>>27326967
Who, Calli? That wouldn't make sense. She'd rather make music and be a D list celebrity than be a vtuber.

tfw I hate Vshojo now
>Implying I didn't before
>western vtubers

Everyone talking about Niji and Vshojo collab bans, not realizing that the Fujos who want to suck Luxiem dick don't give a single flying shit about Coco/Kson.
Vox himself pulled the classic Taiwan oopsy and they just pretended it didn't happen. Vox could trip, fall, and land dick first in Xi Jinping's ass and the fujozhangs would clap.

>>27320635
Well, Holo is the best company to build a career and a following, they have one of the biggest and most dedicated fan bases. But if we are being honest they abuse this fact to gave their talents not so good contracts (at the end of the day Hololive is the one giving them platform). They have a lot of control of what goes out and the revenue porcentages plus what projects gets aproved and what not.
However chubbas that are already established don't really need hololive that much for platform anymore so they can have more leverage with other companies (like vshojo) to have better contracts and freedoms.

>>27327556
What an idealistic faggot, why do you invest so much thought in the freedom of talents you dont even watch. There are women getting genital mutilated at this very second and youre worried about the human rights to do boyfriend collabs

>>27320635
Migo joined VShoujo?

>>27328288
If the first to collab with vshojo is from luxiem, they will shut their mouth.
If it’s a niji girl, all hell will break loose.

>>27324812
You gotta feel bad for mouse when she's trying to get further with the JP holos and now management are gonna have to tell her they can't rock the boat any more because cover are upset.

On the other hand some people didn't want vshojo collabs to begin with, the blanket ban will keep them happy but now they'll demand nijiEN is allowed instead now.

>>27326573
Oh yes, we love giving whores creative freedom

>>27328076
I love how people keep shortening it further and further to avoid getting banned

>>27328353
>not so good contracts
Name a better position in the entertainment industry. Jesus, artists would fucking kill for a 30% of their revenue, and 50% for merch sales? The vtuber industry has the most lax contracts in any entertainment industry possible. This contract is the same from an era where they didn't even get triple digits on superchats monthly, the fact that it's the same contract even after years where they're the top dog of the industry is insane

>>27327172
Let us have hope anon

>>27320635
Noraneko?

>>27324443
They're literal backstabbing whores

>>27320479
Not Asmongold, don't care

>You people... you know who I am. But you don't know why I'm here. Where is Billionaire Tanigo? Where is the Yagoo Man? That punk can't even get in the building. Me? I go wherever I want, whenever I want. And where, oh where, is Narukami? 'Cause I got a scoop for you. When that saviourfag wannabe comes out here later tonight, I got a challenge for him, for Billionaire Tanigo, for the Yagoo Man. And for anybody else in uh...
>HoLoLiVe
https:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BDeh-DXRQ0
So we've got Kson Nash and Razor Rushia. Who's gonna be Hulk Hogan and complete the nVo?

If that really is Rushia then I've lost a lot of respect for both Vshojo and Kson.

>>27328082
enjoy your trans rights company and off yourself while you're at it...disgusting tranny

>>27328288
>Vox could trip, fall, and land dick first in Xi Jinping's ass and the fujozhangs would clap.
Impossible, they'd be knuckle-deep in their pussies. Can't clap like that.

>>27327950
I fucking hate communists but yes famalam.
Vtubing should be something free as air.
Imagine all vtubers leaving corpos taking their income, no more collab bans, no more whores that don't stream saved by their brand name, no more vtubers unhappy with their models, vtubers getting along with likeminded people instead of situations like idolfags seething at Mori.

It's nauseating how vtuber corpos pretend to be something premium when they use the same free available tools to everyone. Same streaming free software (OBS), same free Live 2D, youtube's monetization system, commissioning same artists like many Hololive vtubers have clones made by the same artist.

Corporate vtubing is disgusting. It's fucking disgusting how irrationally big it got

>>27323744
Source: the voices in my head

>>27327556
I have a dream that one day every vtuber will OWN their channels. Fuck this 24/7 internet spew of yabs and skizos bullshit. Fuck corporation pride, fuck fuck Cover, fuck Anicolor FUCK ALL OF IT. The vtuber scene is deseased, rotten to the core there is no saving it we need to pull it out by the roots, whipe the scene clean. And from the ashes a new industry will be born, evolved but UNTAMED. The whores will be purged and only the talented will thrive, free to stream as they see fit. THEY WILL MAKE VTUBING GREAT AGAIN

>>27327556
What a fucking retard. This thinking is led purely by emotion and nothing else. This post reeks of utopian lefty faggotry.

>>27324925
>Tranny dragon and tranny hater dragon
Ironic

>>27323327
Divegrass 3 soon

>>27329943
Every vtuber will be free to fight they own yabs!

>>27329943
kek kson literally just did that and found it better to join vshojo in the end

>>27321200
>heterochromia

>>27329241
kek

I know who the new Vshojo is she’s bilingual and used to be on TwitCast

>>27328076
Wait, wha-- AHHHHHH, MY SKIN, IT BURNS! CURSE YOU AND YOUR BUG-SPRAYING AGENTS!! AUHHHHAAJHDEJWJ...!

>>27330487
>kek kson literally just did that and found it better to join vshojo in the end
>the whores will be purged and only the talented will thrive

>>27330487
as an indie you cant advertise in a japanese train station

>>27320479
Who the hell is the second girl?, as for kson who cares her streams have been dogshit since she left holo and really she fits well with the vshojo way of vtubing(being a whore). Nothing will change because the vshojo girls hardly stream and dont colab much

>>27328076
It sure seems like it, and what's more, at the end of the road is a bunch of whores that call themselves VShojo.

>>27329943
LOL you actually have to be a good streamer to make it on your own, ask Kson or Kana or Delta. The average dumb slut just doesn't have the ability to work on their own

>>27331412
Rushia, unironically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=469 timestamp proof.

>>27331513
That's the thing, restrictions actually brings more character. This creative freedom bullshit just makes you a literal npc in the whole game.

I guess it will be civil war now in VSG+. Those who know the OGs are whores, those who support the OG whores, those whosupport the JP side, those who feel betrayed but still secretly suck covers cock, and those who love both.

>>27331571
https://youtu.be/NQlH1lXq4tg?t=469

>>27331838
Wait they got rushia...thats impressive actually

>>27331971
Thank Kson

>>27320479
Don't care, still not watching them

Regardless of the rrats and so on, this is actually great for Hololive viewers. Cover is gonna have to take the stick out their ass and start working harder for their talents or they can just jump ship. Maybe they can get a decent 3d engine that doesn't spaz out every 15 minutes when a talent does any unconventional movement. That niji yogaball stream has yet to be topped. Healthy competition is best for consumers.

>>27328082
Enjoy your money pox, tranny faggot.

>>27332119
True, didn't they promise live2d updates a while ago?
Never saw any of that.

>>27326368
I fucked hotter girls in local asian massage places. Actually last time i fucked in an asian massage place, i ended up fucking her in the ass, she got really into and got super horny and said she liked it in the back. Anyway what are we talking about?

>>27323295
Suisei says she fights with management more than anyone else, but I also believe she genuinely cares about Hololive.

>>27320479
Only 2? You'd think they have 4.

hololive two biggest money earners now at vshojo. top kek, holocucks and yagoo on suicide watch. hope marine will follow.

>>27331712
>>27331513
The reason vtubing was good is because they had restrictions, otherwise they are not different from any twitch thot

>>27321200
I feel bad for Kanata

>>27322138
pekora once had a meltdown because of a fight with the management. she even menaced to quit.

>>27332840
very true

>>27329943
That was such a potent speech. I miss you senator.

I don't give a shit but I do hope that any chuubas that do 3DPD gets banned on sight from /vt/, them doing that shit ain't vtubing anymore and just plain old attention whore'ism.

>>27332119
True, Ame having to do the setup herself so her friends can have a 3D concert is shameful on Cover

i am so happy to see this. cover is a terrible company and hololive a terrible idol agency.

>>27332491
How do you know when you duck in an asian massage place? Or are all of them like that?

>>27320479
ahhahahahahah HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
basado

>>27322138
>underaged bait whos never had a job before has the sudden realization that once you quit a job you can join another job in the same field

>>27333009
This is actually true, when you raise girls with no moral code or fair restrictions you get girls who do nothing but slut it up, do drugs, get pregnant and become failures. They simply use their body to get them through life. But if you raise them properly you get someone who actually uses her brain, can tease when needed and has fun without whoreing it up. Vshojo streams are 90% dogshit and the girls dont even put in effort, simply because they dont have too. Its a shit attitude

This is history in the making, in a few years from now we will remember this are the start of hololive demise. go get them Justin.

>>27333082
There should be pokimane and pewdiepie threads since they also "were" vtubers right?

>>27333347
Just look at the amount of yabs they have compared to hololive, the holos to get into more drama are just the whores like mori who have their leash pretty loose

>>27333515
the libtardisation of vtubers begins

>>27333524
ANY chuuba that kills keyfabe should be banned from /vt/, period.

>>27320479
>kson didn't like being restrained by a bigger corp
>joins vshojo

How long until she quits again?

>>27322138
>mfw the consolewarring is going to get worse now thanks to kson

>>27333347
doesnt this sort of apply to everyone

I thought Kson was fine being indie. What could she gain from this?

>rushia literally out for revenge
WE FUCKING WARNED YOU

>>27334157

>>27334157
money? legal team? events? 3d studio? (this was announced at the anime expo, kson was on stage).

>>27333231
If they are open until like 12 or 11 at night on a saturday then pretty good chance its a place with extras. Google the number, if they advertise with pictures of girls in bikinis or hottubs then its a place with extras. You will pay twice, once when you go in for the massage, and later when you talk to the masseuse for the actual extras.
Take a shower, smell good, be respectful.

I can't wait for vshojo to become the hololive retirement home!

>>27332491
imagine paying for sex

>>27322138
that's literally any job, ever

>>27333085
I feel like that's less "Things Cover Should Do.txt" and more "Things Cover Couldn't Do in a Reasonable Amount of Time So The Talents Did It Themselves.txt".
You can argue that Cover should've just set up an NA office, but setting up and staffing a large office where things don't happen for 80% of the year is a huge money sink. Remember, Cover's only about 300 employees large, including the talents and international staff.
>But the talents are making boatloads of money, right? So clearly it's there.
In the short term. At this point you can fairly confidently say that vtubing isn't a fad, but that doesn't mean the majority of viewers will be there forever. Cover seems to be suffering from the age-old questions with companies that get big fast:
>Do we expand and risk this blowing up in our faces, and having to lay off more people than we hired for the expansion?
>Do we try to make it work with what we have now, possibly hindering our potential growth, but preventing us from overinvesting in ways we can't backtrack out of?
It's a valid concern, in entertainment especially. Times change really fast these days. Just look at how quickly /vt/ can change tunes on certain things. Meanwhile you have wrestling fans that to this day start foaming at the mouth if you bring up the city of Montreal.

I suppose you could just Spirit Halloween a 3D studio, but that both goes against Japanese business mentality and likely would've gotten Ame to make her own studio ANYWAY.

>>27334149
Yes, just talking girls specifically since were talking about female vtubers.

>>27332491
>goes to a massage place
>for sex and not a massage
this crazy guy, what will he think of next

>>27334262
does vshojo not take a cut?
>>27334367
>soon ®
ogey

>>27334415
>a company where the girls are openly acting like whores
I know you people want to watch the world burn but I'm not happy about this. Think of what this means for the future of vtubing. Do you really want them to become twitch-ethots 2.0?

>>27334500
Anon, he was so good at the sexing that they soapland girls PAID HIM after it was over, such powerful strokes!

I kneel if Kson talks about Taiwan again.

>>27321352
So after crying and saying how much she loves her fans she goes and cans the mikeneko avatar as well to get into vshoujo so that Kson can help her?

>>27321200
So they are required to stream on twitch?

>>27334588
Only on the merch and say what you want about vshojo but they have good marketing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59oLLINHTFw&t=498s

cover would never allow their talents to appear like that on stage. VShoujo is about freedom.

>>27328601
>he talk about 'contracts'
>bring up 'position'

literally 99% of Vtuber companies right now has a better contracts than Holo
ofc Holo still one of the best choice to go consider how massive it is. but their contracts suck ass.

>>27334595
Unfortunately when you start to include EN girls and EN fans this is what starts to happen, jp dudes are horny too but seem to have a different way of looking at it and despise whores for good reason. EN guys are just horny nd want coombait they dont care how many bf's the girl has or if shes fucking a dude on stream. Its a weird difference

>>27334739
>Only on the merch
i see. so it's like VOMS i guess

>>27334595
>become
they always were

Fuck now all the tourist and Twitter tards will go back to saying vshojo isn’t a company

>>27322445

> The biggest anime convention on the US was scheduled just to let Coco leave.

After this, you can be sure that Cover is going to harden their contract even more, especially with a few non-compete clauses

>>27322445
Did she move to the US?
She said something about what she can do in the US as a free country or something

>>27321352
Actually based if true.

>>27322401
I don't think Vshojou have that kind of restricition. it's just that most Vshojou fanbase are on twitch so they make some appearance there to grab some viewers

>Coco will collab with nijiEN

>>27335066
This is probably why vshojo is staying firmly planted in the US. Enforcing a non-compete is already tricky enough in the same country, but basically impossible across international borders.

>>27335181
It is true

So what were these VShojo auditions for if they just picked two who didn't have to audition at all?

>>27322401
>>27335202
The Vshojos only partially have a twitch exclusivity because exclusivity was a part of the partner agreement.
However twitch has since removed the twitch exclusivity part of being a partner so there is 0 chance that they will be forced to only stream on twitch

>>27335251
No she won't. Coco is and will always be chinese rat poison. NijiEN is actually NIjiCN.

>>27335251
didn't she do that before?

>>27335385
Not this shit again. Literally nobody cares about the CN drama anymore.

>>27335355
more is coming.

>>27335251
Imagine thinking NijiCN would get anywhere near their worst enemy

>>27335442
the chinese absolutely fucking still do lmao

>>27334595
true vtubing died in 2020

Anyone who speaks jp know what the jp's are saying about this whole vshojo jp situation?

>>27335442
bullshit

>>27326573
Those are all good shit, my only concerns is that a whole lot of them are vapid whores over there.
I just think that they are not an interesting crew to hang around with.

>>27323133
If leaving your corporation and starting new somewhere else is an advantageous option you're the one who's fucking up and should do a better job. Not the other way around.

>>27326780
Honestly that just seems like a bad move. Coco left on at least good terms, but now they are actually going to be blacklisted from any holo interaction. not even mini collab like ironmouse and mori will happen

>>27335580
They haven't woken up yet anon, give it about 3 or 4 more hours.

>>27335612
Kson is kind of like them but this will only make her worse, i hope she loses jp fans. Rushia completely doesn't fit vshojo at all no idea how thats going to go

>>27320479
Kson: Tell me why! It's the least you can do for me now! I'm your oshi! We're supposed to look out for each other! Why were you working against me, Anon?
Anon: You're not a real vtuber.
Kson: I'm what?
Anon: You're not a real vtuber! Vshojo for Christ's sake? A Japanese branch? What a joke. I worked my ass off to get you where you are! And you take these shortcuts and you think suddenly you can change companies? You can change companies because you're funny and you can make people laugh? I committed my life to this! You don't... change companies like a cheap pair of slippers and then reap all the rewards!
Kson: I thought you were proud of me...
Anon: I was! When you straightened out and got a job in hololive I was very proud.
Kson: So that's it then, right? Keep old Kson down on management leash 'cause she's not good enough to change companies?
Anon: I know you. I know what you were, what you are—people don't change, you're Kiryu Coco! And Kiryu Coco on hololive I can handle just fine but Kiryu Coco on Vshojo is like a chimp with a machine gun! Vtubing is sacred! If you abuse that power wallets get hurt! This is not a game! You have to know — on some level I know you know I'm right! You know I'm right!

>>27335722
Rushia is banking on the fact her fans will follow her there.

>>27335584

>>27335795
They may at least the EN ones will but i feel vshojo is such a different environment for the jp ones. Doesn't really foster good gfe

Who's the current most superchatted member of Hololive? Should we keep an eye on them since the last top two earners are now in VShoujo?

>>27335856
She's not prevented from doing GFE, also Vshojo isn't as group centric, they are a bunch of indies held together by a marketing agency, they'll just follow Rushia and no one else.

>>27335669
you are so cucked its unreal. lol in my field its common to leave your current job for one at a different company with 2x comp once you build some experience. Fags like you will slave away hoping that all your ass kissing will convince management to give you a 10% raise 8 months from now

>>27326573
they are mostly holocucks having a meltdown because of hololive falling apart like a house of cards.

>>27321200
That's a straight up downgrade from her current model, assuming it is actually Mike

>>27334500
Sex is never free for men, if you have a girlfriend you are still investing time and money on her

>>27335722
Kson was always creative which helps her a lot with not everything sounding like vapid horny baiting. if she is going to make a sex joke, she will at least make a funny one rather than, just going "haha sex"
Problem is a lot of Vshojo is exactly about that "haha sex". Ironmouse is the only one that I know of that is actually entertaining and isnt Nyanners literally judas now when she joined Vshojo?
Its bad influence only on the fact that they are less entertaining

What the hell is rushia going to do about all that, her style is completely different from the culture there.

>>27334523
Fair enough, you are right

>>27335947
Doesn't matter because kson is nowhere near in overtaking any holo top holo or her Coco superchat numbers

>>27334367
>legal team
Lmaoooooooo

>>27335856
vshojo jp might be its own different thing
who knows really

I... I guess I don't love this bitch anymore...

>>27336183
>What the hell is rushia going to do
Scream very loudly

>>27334839
>literally 99% of Vtuber companies right now has a better contracts than Holo
Name one company and why their contract is better. For real, aside from vshojo and some exceptions like voms which is barely a company, the industry standard is a 50/50 split after the youtube cut. Hell, cover's is better than niji's because cover pays a salary even if it's a shit one, niji is only donation splits

On the silver lining, maybe Kson can actually jumpstart them to motivate Vshojo to make actually entertaining content? She is really good at that, bringing out the craziest and the funniest side of people I mean

>>27327556
>where vtubers own their channels and characters and form networks and collabs as they see fit.
this would only work in a functioning homogenous culture
sorry mate

I always knew Kson with her reddit humor was a whore
good riddance

>rushia and coco again reunited.

thank for saving virtual youtubeing, justin. my soul is completely healed.

>>27335959
Mikecat prefers being a solo streamer anyway, even when she's still in hololive. Nothing would really change

>>27328575
The only other person who could be important for Vshojo to talk and is a regular is Mori, the rest is whatever.

>one year after leaving
oh, so her non-compete expired

>>27334500
I wish I could, I keep superchatting whenever I can but she hasn't offered me sex yet.

>>27336183
>the hell is rushia going to do about all that
a whole lot of nothing, her NCA doesn't end until next year

please do it Mori
please do it Mori
please do it Mori
please do it Mori
please do it Mori

>>27336863
Gotta groom a 2view, anon-chama

I hope kson will convince more holo to join (she's very close to haachama)

>>27336889
contract got terminated unilaterally by cover; they can not enforce any nca anymore.

I think we're missing the most important thing, which is that Kson's oshi mark is apparently a pizza?

Is Vshojo even big enough in Japan yet for them to care about KSON and the other reject? Sure the two may be able to grow a fanbase, but it seems like it will be several years before either is at their former peak. That shitty angel is far harder to achieve a GFE experience than the old Rushia model.

>>27321352
2 whores who got fired nice talent lmao

>>27333231
Any asian massage place with a neon sign outside saying open/walk-ins welcome
Google their phone number and you should see and escort review coming up

I highly recommend it every anon to try it a couple times so you understand the value of your money in the real world

>>27337239
>Is Vshojo even big enough in Japan yet for them to care about KSON and the other reject?
I think you got the wrong question anon, they're purpose is to make vshojo big in japan, not the other way around. The problem is that I doubt their fanbases will care about any other recruit they could bring

>>27337239
>>27337496
If anything I think this is going to make the Japanese audience hate Vshojo even more.

>>27324257
>>27324257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zevxOD9TaY

>>27334500
You're paying for it one way or another
Years ago I calculated all my exes expenses put together and how much we had sex over time, compared to the cost of massage parlors and how much sex happened over time

On average, I was spending over $170 per sexual encounter with my exes, whereas I was paying $135 per sexual encounter with massage parlors

Now, I'm not saying massage parlors replace a girlfriend, because my current girlfriend is great and it should be the goal for a lot of you.
However, I am saying that massage parlors should replace how much you are all giving to egirls and streamers.

let's not fool ourselves, calli and hakos would fit much better in vshojo. a new era has begun, we have to embrace it.

>>27327556
>money laundry
kek

>>27324257
literally ethot

>>27337972
You can't even get rrat's name right, so what would you know.

>>27338061
what are you talking about?

>>27336528
Based.