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Why is Mori so controversial?

>> No.27270689

>>27270611
idols are literally the polar opposite or rappers

>> No.27270759

>>27270611
Because she is an attention whore, her antis are even worse though

>> No.27270816

>>27270611
she's american

>> No.27270837

she's retarded.

>> No.27270890

>>27270759
I'd disagree but her other rap persona is pure autism

>> No.27271057

>>27270611
Success breeds jealousy.

>> No.27271839

She feels shameless and wont even pretend to do this gig for anything but the paycheck it provides, this makes her feel dishonest when she fakes it
She also used to hardcore GFE and dropped it hard as soon as she could not monetize it behind high tier memberships

>> No.27272129

>>27270689
Shut up carrot

>> No.27272205

>>27271839
GFE?

>> No.27272706

She's the worst vtuber in Hololive. Wigger. Drinking "lean" (and then saying she didn't know what the word meant) and alcohol nonstop, making Gura feel unsafe at their meeting, ugly model. I even like Sana better, and I hate Sana. I'm convinced most people "like" her ironically.

>> No.27272867

>>27272205
Yup, she were the most shameless about it, with “dates with chat” type content and with some of it locked behind her highest tier memberships
As soon as hololive removed their multi tier memberships she also stopped her GFE content
I would not be surprised if many of her most scitzo antis were the ones she dropped back then

>> No.27272884

her braps

>> No.27273051

>>27272205
Girlfriend Experience. Findom shit, promoting unhealthy parasocial relationships with her fans by acting in ways that make them feel as though each of them is in a relationship with her, thus causing them to engage in paypig behavior.

>> No.27273113

>>27270611
retarded whore who cant stop shilling her roommate for a single second to give a fuck about Hololive.

>> No.27273142

>>27272706
>ugly model
Have you ever even *seen* IRyS' model?

>> No.27273231

>>27272867
>As soon as hololive removed their multi tier memberships she also stopped her GFE content
I think you have timeline mixed or something but she stopped doing GFE long before she dropped tiered members streams

>> No.27273249

White girl still stuck in her teenage phase.

>> No.27273521 [DELETED] 

>>27270611
unhealthy obsession with alcohol
most transparently only in it for the money/fame
RM activities overlap directly with holo activities
doesn't care about the RM/vtuber separation
doesn't care about opsec, to the potential detriment of others
unsavoury friend circle
can't disguise forced enthusiasm, comes off as fake as hell
annoying in group collabs from a tendency to waffle between treating them like solo streams to not taking them seriously at all even when others are
puts the worst of herself forward 'ironically'

>> No.27273552 [DELETED] 

>>27270689
fpbp

>> No.27273573

She plays by different rules than the rest of her gen mates, she has a personal manager who actually has her back when the rest only mentions their managers when their projects they worked on for months are canceled out of nowhere

>> No.27273590

>>27273521
>unhealthy obsession with alcohol
Why is that controversial on fucking 4chan again?

>> No.27273682

>>27270611
She's kinda cringe. You can do all sorts of shit and people will cover for you. But once you cross a cringe threshold all bets are off.

>> No.27273695 [DELETED] 

>>27270611
OHNONO DEADKEKS
HAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.27273755

>>27273231
Right, when thinking about it you are correct, there were a gap there, when she tried to disassociate for a while, do you recall how long she did the GFE thing?

>> No.27273765

Because she wants her Vtuber fame on her RM instead. She can't make it happen however so she's slowly trying to change everything else around her instead

>> No.27273829

>>27273755
Well if you just count the date streams then not very long.

>> No.27273899 [DELETED] 

>>27273765
This is by far the most realistic answer out of all the schizo shit this board has come up with. I don't think she knew what the Hololive audience liked at all before she joined.

>> No.27273966

>>27270611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NlGcFj0NZU&ab_channel=NegativeXP-Topic

>> No.27273976

>>27273142
Mori's 3D is horrendous.

>> No.27274167

She's not interested in being a cute anime girl for the entertainment of otaku in a niche hobby, she wants to be a mainstream musician. So she keeps trying to reach outside of the Hololive/vtuber space, which is perceived by dedicated fans as breaking containment and attempting to normalize this niche. This also leads into a fear that she might influence other vtubers to be more like her and less like the interactive anime girl that vtubers started out as.

>> No.27274258

>>27270611
Because despite being a giant dork that is some what likable cute sperg she chooses to mire herself in controversy. It doesn't have to be this way at all but she likes it that way for some dumb fucking reason and refuses to change out of stubbornness.

>> No.27274293

>>27274258
She clearly likes being hated here.

>> No.27274337

>>27270611
because she's using to not censoring herself

>> No.27274346

>>27270689
FPBP. There is no culture further removed from JP idol culture than nigger culture.

>> No.27274404

>>27272867
wtf? I was a member and I STILL wasn't getting everything just because I was a simple tier one? Damn, ngl that hurts since I was sticking with her all the way until the drug yab

>> No.27274564

>>27274404
How did you not know about? She never hid them, it was always a source of contention on the board, and she stopped long before the lean yab.

>> No.27274651

>>27274564
I wasn't around at that time

>> No.27274742

>>27270611
what sets her apart from her idol peers is her "delinquency" (for lack of a better term). she's the wild child of Hololive, which is why she's controversial

>> No.27277807

>>27271839
Link me up. Are they still paywalled?

>> No.27280296

>>27270611
Pink hair

>> No.27280395

>>27270611
Why are twitch whores bad? Why are whores bad? Why are some people considered bad guys?

They are against common morals and ethics.

>> No.27280523

>>27270611
She has a good heart..
But god she is so fucking retarded and has the worst optics

>> No.27280645

idk, never watch her but her music sucks. really cringe

>> No.27280792

>>27272706
Sorry I'm out of the loop, how did she make Gura feel unsafe when they met?

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Seething 2views still mad she told them they needed to work hard to be successful

>> No.27281107

>>27280792
she didn't. It's a lie.

>> No.27281160 [DELETED] 

>>27280792
That's cuckbeat misdirection. The real issue is the risked doxxing all of myth by allowing a party at the airbnb she rented for the myth offcollab thrown by her sister to continue, and then blabbed about it on stream as it was happening

>> No.27281223

>>27270611
god I want to vacuum-suck all the milk out of her tits with my mouth

>> No.27281255

90% of her songs are about the haters and how weird it was becoming a vtuber, I don't understand how anyone can like her music unironically

Her wigger personality is overbearing and she ruins all collabs she's in. Ultimately I can't turn off that thought that she seems extremely fake. She leans into the cringe too much and it's obviously a front to shield her insecurities

>> No.27281387

>>27270611
One person doing collabs with the same people as two different and concurrently active characters disgusts me, it feels wrong and perverse since the two are supposed to stay clearly separate.

>> No.27281388

>>27281255
>She leans into the cringe too much and it's obviously a front to shield her insecurities
This is the worst part of her. Instead of trying to fix them she plays into them as an ironic joke.

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>>27270611
She's like a character from the movie "Malibu's Most Wanted". "a rich white kid who fancies themselves black"

Everything she says/does comes off as a lame joke and isn't cool.

>> No.27283882

>>27270689
fpbp

>> No.27284133

>>27283882
No

>> No.27284170
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Why is Komachi so controversial?

>> No.27284222

>>27270611
She's """wh*te""" and fat.

>> No.27284453

>>27270611
Wigger

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>>27284170

>> No.27284935

>>27270611
>Controversial
She's never had to put out an apology video unlike Nijisanji.

>> No.27285039

>>27284935
refusing to acknowledge wrongdoings is even more controversial

>> No.27285135

>>27270611
Because she is a massive autist with no social skill in a job that entirely relies on using your social skills. But she's so a theater kid, so she tries to "act" as a person with social skills and fails spectacularly.

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>>27270611
>Sense of humor of a 12 year old stuck in 2006
>constantly says/does cringe shit
>Literally admitted to drinking liquor straight from the bottle just to get "fucked up", in any collab she will attempt to pivot the conversation to alcohol at least once
>ruins collabs by basically being comatose, clearly doesn't want to be there at times and will be completely unresponsive making it extremely awkward for the person she's collabing with, most infamous examples of this are the Q&A after the onsen trip, the shadowverse stream with Kiara, and meme review
>tells "my dad works at nintendo" tier lies, claimed she beat bloodborne 4 times, when reddit questioned it because she sucked she finally admitted she never beat it, claimed she listened to "Kiara's king cover" at least 50 times and that it was "great" to Kiara's face, Kiara's king cover was a Rickroll Joke, claimed she had listened to heartchallenger to Kiara's face, when Kiara questioned her she had to come clean and say she didn't
>releases an unhealthy amount of songs about "owning the haters"
>only holomember to ever get downvoted on reddit during the lean yab, even that hugbox thought she was acting like a fucking idiot
>after every fuck up she pretends she cares about hololive for a month or two in the most disingenuous way possible, last time put "WITH MY FRIENDS" in the title of a bunch of collabs
>one of two holos that charges more than 5 bucks for membership tiers, clearly only in it for the money
>puts her colleagues on the spot by asking them for shit onstream in situations where refusing is hard without pissing off some viewers, see her asking Irys for a terraria collab with ironmouse and her TELLING Kiara she'll visit her
That's not listing all the shit I can't include that would make this list 3 times longer.

>> No.27285665

>>27274293
As a business move it is smart. /vt/ as a whole has little real influence. Being hated here is more of a plus since you might lose a couple thousand fans here, but gain a lot more outside of here that hate 4chan in general.

>> No.27285752

>>27270611
She wants to continue her lifestyle of being able to say nigger without people judging her while still reaping all of the benefits given from being affiliated with hololive, which ranks her among the most unprofessional and unsuited talents they've hired. Not helped is that many people think she is a piss poor and average at best singer, producing mostly crap music, yet is praised from some of the best in the company like Suisei.

>> No.27286318

>>27270611
Because for her first year she went "I want to help boost indies, I want to break out of Hololive's bubble" and never collabed with the JP girls besides Korone (Hasn't collabed again despite Korone asking in 2 different birthday streams). She was complaining yet never tried to understand Hololive itself. Even when someone told her "Suisei loves you" she had the fakest reaction I've ever heard. It took months for her to finally realize Suisei could boost her up and started doing stuff with her.

>> No.27286965 [DELETED] 

>>27285752
>yet is praised from some of the best in the company like Suisei
You might add that the only reason the JPs find her music "cool" is because of its novelty.

>> No.27287011

>>27285644
When did she say she never beat Bloodborne? I haven't watched many streams over the past year or so

>> No.27287017

>>27286965
>>27285752
Holy cope.

>> No.27287118

>Anti coping general.

>> No.27287228

>>27270611
>/Nijichinks delfection thread/
How about you defend Finana and make an apology video too Kek

>> No.27287241

>>27285644
She said she wasn't sure if it was 4 times or 5 times that she beat Bloodborne, but it was multiple times. She never said that she didn't beat bloodborne. Your post is full of false rrats.

>> No.27287426

>>27270611
Mori very clearly hates the fact her avatar is more popular than she ever could be but isn't able to hide this like her gen mates can if they even feel this way at all. this also makes her a must watch for her haters as she is going to inevitably yab hard.

>> No.27287485 [DELETED] 

>>27285665
>/vt/ as a whole has little real influence
tell that to the fish lol

>> No.27287573

>>27287241
and it was back when it first came out. there was something like 5 years between the last time she played and when she played it on stream. Also picking the cane as the starter weapon didn't help because lolSnoopRP. She started doing a hell of a lot better once she got her prefered weapon.

>> No.27287631

>>27287485
ok let me rephrase:

/vt/ as a whole has little real influence on hololive.

>> No.27287646

>>27270611
she is a schizo magnet and tried to own them just made it worse

>> No.27287740

She doesn't care about accidentally showing her face in handcam streams and fails to consider or understand that her audience might. I don't think it even enters into her head there are viewers that don't want to know what she looks like or who her RM is. If that stupid "face reveal" trend ever infected hololive Mori would jump on it considering she basically already did with her first RM streams after the lean yab.

>> No.27287809

>>27285644
Most of these are seriously outdated

Never collabs with the JP girls? She does regular English language learning streams. I actually think its hard to find someone in EN that's collabed more recently.

And she hasn't had membership tiers since last year.

Going on about Kiara's King cover is hilarious when the two of them sang it together at Karaoke, underlining the joke.

>> No.27287926

>>27287740
She was doxxed pre debut, I think that had quite the influence on not caring too much since her face was easily found in a lot of places where she wouldn't be able to remove even if she tried.

>> No.27288044

>>27287926
That doesn't excuse anything. the viewers that want to know can find out on their own, but the viewers that don't want to know shouldn't have to worry about it on her own streams. It's just classic mori line of thought: "if I don't care/think it's an issue no one else possibly could".

>> No.27288101

>>27287740
Or it’s incredibly obnoxious having people spam reflection in chat any time you use a knife

>> No.27288299

>>27273966
ame's roommate

>> No.27288560

>>27288044
Cat was so far out of the bag before she spoke one word that it couldn't go back in. She couldn't hide herself at all because of her past actions attempting to be famous online.

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>>27287011
>>27287241
>>27287573
Gaslightbeats hyperfocusing on one thing because the posts got deleted on reddit and claiming it invalidates the entire post. Classic.
>>27287809
>Never collabs with the JP girls?
Gaslightbeats now resorting to claiming things I never said to invalidate the entire post. I have faith that people on 4chan can actually read unlike you retards and see how full of shit you pathetic dickriders are.
>And she hasn't had membership tiers since last year.
Gaslightbeats outright lying, she used to have 2, went to having one 5 dollar tier like everyone else for a few months then introduced her current tiering with even more expensive tiers. I don't even know why this is an argument either way because it doesn't change the fact that she has those tiers and is milking "true deadbeats™" for every cent.
>Going on about Kiara's King cover is hilarious when the two of them sang it together at Karaoke, underlining the joke.
Next level gaslighting.

Jeremy, I hope you get paid for replying to every post on here that even slightly criticizes her and lying out of your ass to defend m'lady. Because this is fucking pathetic.

>> No.27288635

>>27288572
You are uninformed. You are relying on out of date /vt/ rrats.

>> No.27288662

>>27288635
Jeremy I don't give a shit, stop replying to me.

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>pinkshit

>> No.27288691

>>27288662
Stop reposting 2020 copypasta

>> No.27288693

>>27288044
Good thing you don't have to watch her streams! It's up to the streamer to cultivate the audience they want. If hololive and Cover themselves wanted a certain type of of audience they would keep their streamers on a much tighter leash, but they obviously don't and want the talents to do their own thing as long as they don't do stupid stuff like Rushia and break contract stuff.

>> No.27288759

>>27288572
There are multiple reddit archive sites, you will be able to find the posts as long as they were up for more than a couple minutes.

>> No.27288839

>>27287241
>>27287573
Anyway, it's easy to beat a Souls game while being shit at it, depending on your build. DS1 Sorcerer spells and DS2 Hexes come to mind as very early game acquires that let you faceroll through those campaigns without thinking too much since their DPS was so independent of gear and mechanics.

>> No.27288872

>>27286318
>Wants to help indies
>Only collabs with anitubers and vshitshow
That is what pissed me off most

No doubt management being retarded fucked it up too

>> No.27288925

>>27288759
This hyperfocusing on one thing feels like I'm arguing against a bunch of twitter fags that use the "discredit one small thing to invalidate everything" method. I'm too lazy to dig it up. Ignore that argument, I'll hand you that victory. Try discrediting everything else I said. You can't because those I can easily dig up.

>> No.27288933

Mori does a lot of dumb bitch stuff that should be obvious shit you shouldn't do. Also the fact she really doesn't care for the vtuber thing, makes no attempt at opsec, and the combination ended up announcing the general location of the one person in Myth who takes glextreme care on her opsec and making sure nobody knows anything about her outside of minor cheeky references to her roommate

>> No.27288941

>>27288572
Actually she always had 3 tiers, I think they were named after 200 yen wine, 300 yen wine, and 500 yen wine. $5, $15, and $25. Then she got rid of tiered member streams, but I think she stopped releasing member streams after a month (please correct me if I'm wrong). The only thing she's done since is adding a $3 member that doesn't have access to streams.
I still wish she didn't have the higher tiers, she doesn't need the extra money.

>> No.27288987

>>27288941
She clearly does, just recently she whined that people that make more than 525K like her get taxed too much.

>> No.27289056

>>27288662
Jeremy here, ask me anything.

>> No.27289067 [DELETED] 

>>27288635
sure, cuckbeat

>> No.27289186

>>27288925
Because I don't really care about the rest since alot of it is opinion or doesn't matter. The alcohol stuff is extra funny since multiple JP holos get drink/get drunk on stream as well so it isn't exactly an uncommon thing in hololive.

>> No.27289210

>>27270611
she does something fucking retarded every other week and she has no foresight of how her actions are going to be perceived

i still like her despite that but damn is she stupid sometimes

>> No.27289241

>>27270689
watame don't look!

>> No.27289480

>>27287017
That being the only response you're capable of giving further helps cement it.
Calli has barely any vocal range to speak of, none of her beats are offering any kind of genre defining sound to them, and her lyrics seem like she cares more about having something she thinks sounds cool when spoken in succession than having something that actually conveys an interesting narrative.
She produces music that is marketable which is exactly why she got signed.

>> No.27289596

>>27289480
Her success speaks for itself. Cope and seethe.

>> No.27289637

Looking at the IP count I'm beginning to believe the Jeremy meme. Half this thread is one guy replying to everyone and defending her.

>> No.27289722

>>27289637
>Jeremy
That's me!

>> No.27289735

>>27289637
This is really pathetic, you know. You literally created your own boogeyman to cope with the fact that deadbeats exist here.

>> No.27289822

>>27289637
It's me too

>> No.27289892

>>27289722
>>27289735
>>27289822
>IP count didn't increase
Also, it's not about deadbeats existing. It's about cuckbeats being the only fandom on this board pathetic enough to relentlessly defend their shit oshi. Nobody else does this.

>> No.27289957

>>27289892
>we want to claim things uncontested
do you realize how stupid you sound?

>> No.27289956

>>27289892
I told you. I'm Jeremy. It's all me.

>> No.27290053

>>27289957
>do you realize how stupid you sound?
At the end of the day, I'm not defending E-girls on 4chan.

>> No.27290122

>>27290053
Nah, you're just gossiping about e-girl drama on 4chan.

>> No.27290128

>>27290053
but you claim things against said e-girl in 4chan, which is more pathetic, all so said imageboard will deem you as "based"

>> No.27291154
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Mori was the one that got me into V-tubers. That said, holy fuck is she fucking annoying. The way she talks is funny like the first time you hear it maybe, but it gets incredibly fucking annoying listening to it after a while. Coupled with all the lies/stretching the truth, it gets real tiresome to listen to somebody theater kid spaz at your for hours at a time. She's also dogshit at games, and saying "haha wow im so dogshit at games deadbeats, yah boy really is bad at games yah hear" just makes it worse. A lot of the "yabs" are just retards shizoing out, but at the same time there's a grain of truth to a lot of the autistic rrats floating around that all the mental gymnastics in the world can't fully handwave away. Especially when she has co-workers who are much nicer to listen to and don't have the autistic baggage. Her music is okay. There's some songs that kinda slap, there's some songs that are kinda trash. Same as pretty much every music-centric tuber. All in all, it's just really tiresome trying to be a Mori fan when you are surrounded by less tiresome alternatives.

>> No.27291185

>>27289241
Idols can rap but rappers can't "Idol". Even more so for a fake rapper.

>> No.27291194

>>27289480
>calli
Back to okbuddyhololive with you

>> No.27291244

>>27291154
>t3. deadbeat
>they still think falseflagging works.

>> No.27291490

>>27285644
>one of two holos that charges more than 5 bucks for membership tiers
Who's the other one?

>> No.27291535

>>27291244
Nigger I've never given money to any v-tuber because it's fucking dumb. Also, at what fucking point in any of that drunken word vomit did you glean that I was advocating for Mori? Do you fucking understand the English language you fucking nigger? Can you read a single fucking sentence? I wrote that as somebody who used to watch a lot of her, why fucking bother when literally anyone else exists? In what fucking retarded universe is that falseflagging trying to drum up support for her? Do you have brain damage you fucking nigger? I wish IPs on this fucking hellsite were public so that if you lived in the US I could just fucking drive to your house and cave your Neanderthal fucking skull in with a paving stone. Fuck you.

>> No.27291735

>>27291535
Keep crying that she's still popular and 4chan is still a hate machine.

>> No.27291837

>>27291535
>doesn't know what t3beat means.

>> No.27291865

>>27291490
Matsuri.

>> No.27291915

>>27270611
/vt/ hates her because she isn't subservient and that intimidated them.

>> No.27292135

>>27288941
Most of the girls have multiple tiers that do nothing just like 2nd year Mori.

>> No.27292278

I refuse to believe this is a real thread on account of the one anon getting so thoroughly and politely spoon-fed.

>> No.27292395

>>27292135
Also addendum: you could tell that these are newfags by the fact that they hide the little detail of Mori's membership streams becoming public 1 month later and only the 3rd tier (and this is being polite) doesn't consistently get archived.

>> No.27293332

>>27270611
I hate how she often thinks acting cute is cringe and tries too hard to be “cool”, just because she has a deep voice doesn’t mean she can’t be cute

>> No.27293719

>>27293332
Not sure if you have watched recent streams, but she doesn't do that nearly as much and seem much more ok with acting cute. Especially the VA-11 Hall-A streams and the ASMR

>> No.27294504

>>27270611
Autism

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>>27292278
>posting in a veiled doxxnigger thread
you're right, it isnt a real thread

>> No.27298015

>>27292395
Either newfags or they never had any interest in Mori. Her releasing member streams a month after saved my poor ass in 2020

>> No.27298657

>>27270611
Because she is popular. She will ride that train and eventually bounce once its gas run out. Whether (you) think her music is good or bad is purely subjective and its usually debated to only pass time. She got lucky.

>> No.27299091

>>27298657
>her music is good or bad is purely subjective
Her music is objectively mediocre even compared to other works in the same style/genre.

>> No.27299119

>>27299091
by what metric, Your seething?

>> No.27299177

>>27270689
Not true. There are amateur idol groups in japan whose gimmicks are hip hop.

>> No.27299270

>>27272706
What the fuck did Sana do?

>> No.27299306

>>27299091
>style/genre
Can you show me more of this style? Because I'm looking for them and there's not much other than F/T themselves.

>> No.27299498

>>27270611
she's a dumb bitch, not even an insult this is what she says about herself
she keeps being a dumb bitch, and every time it annoys more people

>> No.27299634

>>27273590
if she was content to drink herself into an early grave on her own I wouldn't mind but she's determined to get other people drunk with her. her teenager like pride in getting shitfaced makes the other girls uncomfortable too, see the tea party collab with fauna and sana where calli announced she drank hard liquor straight from the bottle

>> No.27300657

>>27299306
NTA but Vtuber JapRappers or specifically Mori's brand of music?
For the former you can start with KMNZ, for the latter i have no clue and wouldn't want to know.

>> No.27300699

>>27299634
>she's determined to get other people drunk with her
What if they want to drink with her?

>> No.27300711

>>27299119
>u mad!!1
typical deadbrap

>> No.27300818

>>27287740
>She doesn't care about accidentally showing her face in handcam streams and fails to consider or understand that her audience might
she literally talked about avoiding showing her face specifically for her audience and she wanted her chat to focus on the content and not spam OH NO REFLECTION every single time she held something metal, but sure dude

>> No.27300862

>>27288941
>I still wish she didn't have the higher tiers, she doesn't need the extra money.
After the initial controversy she wanted to get rid of them but management wouldn't let her and she scrapped them as soon as she possibly could.

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>>27270611


She can't stop putting her foot in her mouth. And i don't mean just doing things that embarrass herself, but things that embarrass other people around her, like a force of wigger gravity, pulling people in to crash their planes with no survivors.

>> No.27301994
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>>27270611
Let me preface this by saying I am an ex-deadbeat yet don't totally hate her, so I think I wholeheartedly understand why she is so hated and I think it's proper justification for why I'm writing this ungodly essay. It can best be summarized under three categories.
>controversies
>personality
>ungratefulness
Obviously, Mori has been involved in countless controversies at a much higher frequency than other chuubas. The only other chuuba that ever came close to spawning as many anti threads was Kiara in the earlier days of this board (keep this in mind since I think this is a good point to prove that not all the hate on this board is mindless shitposting and baiting, as Kiara anti threads are uncommon nowadays and she is far more well liked here now). Her membership shenanigans, lean comments, association with widely disliked parties, and recent events involving Gura all come to mind. The amount she seems to drink does not help either.

Her personality urks a lot of people the wrong way. Some people don't enjoy "cringe kino," they just see the cringe part of it. Another thing is her sense of humor. At it's worst, it often boils down to her simply self deprecating or just being loud with repetitive and outdated jokes. On top of that she is often both criticized for a lack of enthusiasm and over acting during streams. Back when she was newer to Holo, her enthusiasm was the main issue. She often seemed low energy, anxious, or as many claimed "uncaring" during streams and especially collabs. This lead to her having deadpan and incredibly cringeworthy reactions during interactions. Some notable examples of this is Clubhouse 51 with Kiara, the HoloEN ender dragon slaying stream, or the oh so dreadful meme review with Coco. Recently, people are annoyed with how obnoxious she comes off as, again especially during collabs. Her yelling over people only to tell jokes about Adam Sandler, Shrek, and JoJo is not enjoyable to listen to. People's general distaste for this type of humor was further enforced by her interaction during an Elden Ring stream where she lashed out at a viewer who voiced their distaste for her Shrek jokes, and when Gura had remarked negatively during a Minecraft stream about the same jokes. All this is topped off with her attitude towards haters, where she claims not to care about them in the slightest while seemingly being deeply affected by their comments to the point of replying to them publicly on Twitter and creating several "fuck da haterz" songs.

The last point is how ungrateful she seems to many. The phrase "MORI DOESNT CARE ABOUT HOLOLIVE" has been tossed around so much on this board it has practically lost all meaning, but it's still important to bring up. The argument behind this phrase is that she is only using Hololive for the money and to further her own career by using her corporate provided anime girl persona and fanbase to establish connections and then eventually she'll leave Hololive and pursue her own career with "her real friends." Notably, on her birthday 3D live she hearted a comment saying "hololive is not the destination, it's the first step." This paired with the fact she claimed she was living in a cockroach infested apartment and was at risk of being forced to move back to the states due to lack of sufficient income before she joined Hololive makes the idea that she is ungrateful more damning. Another point that is used is her song lyrics. Mori always speaks out her thoughts through song, at its best we can get EPs like Your Mori which feel soulful, genuine, and emotional. At it's worst we get a bunch of mediocre to downright shitty rap songs which is just her complaining about petty shit as a millionaire who pretends to be an anime girl for a living. Now, this is difficult to discuss further without entering borderline RM discussion, so I wont.

Keep in mind that there are of course many who are just upset that she is successful and popular and are indeed hopping on the bandwagon to hate on her, but there is also genuine reasons to why she is so hated. Overall stubbornness and refusal to permanently improve is the nail in the coffin on why many, like myself, have stopped supporting her and why you still see so many threads shitting on her to this day.

>> No.27302050

>>27270611
she starts 90% of the rrats here about herself. rappers thrive on controversy, gives them writing material

>> No.27302124

>>27270611
She's the opposite of what a holo idol should be, knows very little about Hololive and doesn't care to adapt to its culture but instead wants to force her own ideas onto it.

>> No.27302172

>>27280792
Gee I dunno, maybe the fact that her whore ass sister and her bf threw a fucking EDM rager at the airbnb where Mori and Gura were?
Gura had to hide away in the corner of a room all night while dozens of random fratbros and other dumbfucks partied all night blasting loud music, drinking, doing lines and having sex all over?

>> No.27302336

>>27302172
you forgot the part where the address was quickly found because a certain someone put a video of the party on instagram and that's why they had a sudden roadtrip instead of staying at the airbnb rented specifically for the collab

>> No.27303046

>>27301994
>recent events involving gura
this is the second or third time i've heard this point mentioned, what exactly happened there? how did she make gura uncomfortable?

>> No.27303078

>>27302172
>>27302336
holy fuck

>> No.27303957

>>27303046
Meh, it really wasn't a big deal in the scheme of things. It's really just a bad look and it's unlikely Gura was in any danger. I only included it because it caused a shitstorm on the board.

>> No.27306065

>>27270611
I see it

>> No.27306159

>>27302336
Except you retards got the address wrong. The place was available to rent during the offcollab period.

>> No.27306259

a wigger who creates shit music abd lyrics
her cursed ASMR was legit

>> No.27306275

>>27270611
She isn't though a lot of people are making a
lot of big deal to whatever she's doin' . I don't even know her constant so called 'yab' if weren't posted /here/ since I'm not her target audience.

>> No.27306393
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27306393

Functional alcoholic who gets away with all her misteps.

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>>27306159
cope

>> No.27306697

>>27281601
she got into rap by listening to a jap
no wonder her MO doesn't with normies

>> No.27307035

>>27306555
damn, nice
imagine being jealous of your cringe older sister

>> No.27307088

>>27307035
She might be cringe but she's also rolling in money.

>> No.27307190

>>27280792
People are mad that Gura got laid.

>> No.27307711

>>27291535
Ah, a greyname. Opinion discarded

>> No.27309583 [DELETED] 

>>27306065
?

>> No.27309857

>>27270611
Shes not controversial at all, only schizos on /vt/ hate her

>> No.27310052

>>27290053
Because gossiping about egirls on 4chan is so much better right?

>> No.27311836
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She became grating and annoying. An air of self-importance replaced the sense of gratitude she gave off during her first monetization stream up to about March 2021. It became plainly apparent that she had no plans of fixing any of her issues as a streamer and instead believed the solution was to just stream more often regardless of each individual stream's quality. She constantly releases songs about her antis, to the point that it became obnoxious. How fucking long are you gonna dwell on people who dislike you over the tens, if not hundreds, of thousands who DO like you? Never had any real intention of boosting indie VTubers or musicians, as proven by how the only indies of either group that she gives a fuck about are the ones her roommate knows and interacts with. Which is fine, if she wants to boost her friends then by all means, but don't market it as you looking out for the indies when you obviously don't. I don't believe in the concept of "pickme girls" but if I did, Mori would 100% be that, just another one of those "I'm not like those other girls" girls.

>> No.27313340

>>27270611
Too American.

>> No.27313490

>>27299270
Doesn't stream and threw her back out after having tons of sex with me.

>> No.27313776

>>27270611
Bandwagoning

>> No.27314020

>>27270611
I hate her because her model is so good, but she wastes it by being a retarded wigger

>> No.27314120

>>27270611
she acknowledged niggers on this board

>> No.27314320

>>27314120
Prove it

>> No.27315512

I’d rather listen to the first three albums of The 1975 in their entirety 5-times each before I listen to her music.

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27316274

>be me
>see mori and thin girl walking to the store
>its gura
>i unzip my pants
>charge towards her
>tear off gura's clothes
>mating press
>mori's lean fueled shriekes are echoing through my head as she tries to pull me off
>but its too late
>my erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation kick in
>its done
>gura is pregnant
>roe v wade repelled
>i am the chumbud
>fear me

only chads who would do same if they saw gura irl can reply to this post

>> No.27316319

>>27285644
>>27301994
>>27291154
Get new rrats

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>>27301994
This actually is it. Lack of enthusiasm, and lack of gratefulness for Cover picking her up out of poverty into a successful music career. She's so bitter at the fact that she found success being a VTuber and not her original persona and that resentment seeps into everything she does.
Not to mention her obsession with e-celebs like Gigguk, Critikal, and others. By itself, the "male voice heard on stream actually being a Critikal video" controversy doesn't matter at all, but it's a microcosm of how she keeps trying to pull these two ecospheres together by force.

I honestly think she should graduate and not in a malicious sense. I genuinely think she would be happier. She's already become friends with all the anitubers she ACTUALLY likes being around, and enough Mori fans have seeped into her other persona to where her music career will be stable too. As she is, she'll continue to be an unenthusiastic alcoholic who drops a new shitty rap "dunking on the haters" every 3 months forever.

>> No.27316830

>>27288572
>>27288759
>>27288925
https://camas.unddit.com/#{%22author%22:%22calliopemori%22,%22resultSize%22:100}

>> No.27318167

>>27301994
God damn that's a lot of words, but this is a well put together criticism of Mori without being biased. Personally I really liked her, but admittedly the cringe kino was starting to become too cringe, and after Off with their heads I couldn't shake the feeling that she was ungrateful. I wish she could be better, but I know she won't

>> No.27321620

>>27270611
Me

>> No.27329285

>>27321620
Him

>> No.27329645

>>27329285
necrobumper trying to keep his thread around

>> No.27330727

>>27329645
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