/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>27011938
so if the nudes were real then pomu will actually be fucked if someone does dig up the old motherless videos then

>>27011947
>Pekora funnel to Flare
SANKISEI LIVE

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>154,513: Laplus (Hololive)
>47,568: Tsuna (VSPO)
>43,200: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,207: Koyori (Hololive)
>25,635: Mumei (Hololive)
>24,492: Watame (Hololive)
>22,320: Lamy (Hololive)
>20,937: Lui (Hololive)
>18,823: Chaika (Nijisanji)
>17,819: Choco (Hololive)
>17,214: Iroha (Hololive)
>15,841: Mio (Hololive)
>13,736: Vox (Nijisanji)
>13,690: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,907: Lize (Nijisanji)
>12,884: Lui (Hololive)
>12,502: Nene (Hololive)
>11,013: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,631: Vox (Nijisanji)

>>27013713
I think we're all looking super long term, like a year, because Salome is going to be strong for a few more weeks at the very least.
40k for GTAV ep 2 is a bit worrying, but she still hasn't had a stream below 30k yet and she's keeping her relevance with shorts at least. I do think her meme timeslot of 12 am is going to hurt in the future because it only gets worse from that point on in terms of viewerpool and its Def not primetime

>Matsuri starts inclining
>Lyger already trying to sabotage her so he can keep grooming her

>>27013880
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349 - 3D debut
10) Salome (Nijisanji) - 71,690 - English study
11) Salome (Nijisanji) - 78,179 - Resident Evil 7
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 88,559 - Resident Evil 7
13) Chloe (Hololive) - 137,594 - 3D debut
14) Salome (Nijisanji) - 99,770 - Resident Evil 7
15) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,188 - Rust
16) Koyori (Hololive) - 105,030 - 3D debut
17) Salome (Nijisanji) - 80,943 - Disaster Report 2
18) Debi (Nijisanji) - 54,133 - Response battle tournament
19) Flare (Hololive) - 86,846 - 3D birthday live
20) Gura (Hololive) - 52,614 - Unarchived karaoke w/Amelia
21) Lui (Hololive) - 100,833 - 3D debut
22) Subaru (Hololive) - 40,612 - Super Smash Bros.
23) Salome (Nijisanji) - 44,230 - Disaster Report 2
24) Sango (Nijisanji) - 103,915 - 3D debut
25) Noel (Hololive) - 64,178 - 3D live
26) Masaru (Nijisanji) - 79,911 - Niji Typing King tournament
27) Laplus (Hololive) - 154,513 - 3D debut

>PER COMPANY
15x: Nijisanji
12x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
11x: Salome
1x: Chloe, Debi, Flare, Gura, Haachama, Iroha, Koyori, Kuzuha, Laplus, Lui, Masaru, Mio, Noel, Sango, Subaru, Watame

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
115x: Hololive
53x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
15x: Salome
12x: Kuzuha, Miko
8x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>27013752
I don’t think he’s talking about “larping talent” but about numbers, given the subject matter of this thread and all

>>27013727
One funny thing about the YouTube algorithm is that it’s is more or less a
>people who saw this also saw X
The worst nightmare for the NijiEN girls would be if, for some reason, the boys watching HoloEN girls would also watch NijiEN boys because the algo would start recommending the later to the audience of the former.

Same thing for Salome, if she picks up a big enough audience from HoloJP girls the algo will start pairing her recommendations with HoloJP (and it might be happening already given the overlap between Salome and Miko WWE tourists and Pekora GBE tourists).

That would be something out of an alternate reality, OgaMage tier

>NIJIGOLD

>>27013892
>Lyger already trying to sabotage her so he can keep grooming her
Theres a name I haven't seen in a long time.

>>27013830
Im the other anon though and I do think Salome is better at larping than Pekora though since pekora's character isnt that hard to larp since she just relies on the laugh

>>27013941
Will it beat this?

>>27013941
Is the niji logo vomiting up rainbows or swallowing a rainbow?

>>27013941
>1 hour after HoloX 3D live
They want to catch the tourist funnel

>>27013962
that's the issue with salome. she's extremely fake and people are already getting bored with the desuwa thing, as we can see from her losing 65% of her viewerbase in less than 2 weeks.

>>27013941
>>27013998
>scheduling 3d on the day MHR:Sunbreak releases
Yeah I don't know man

>>27013752
In terms of RP she definitely is, but streamer wise (chat interactions, being able to create comedic situations seemingly out of thin air) the rabbit is tiers above Salome. Pekora has been a 20k+ CCV streamer for over 2 years and has outlasted new gens and new companies, we still have to wait and see if Salome's audience remains at this level. In basketball terms, Pekora is LBJ and current Salome is Toronto Kawhi.

>>27013962
Ojousama is generally an easier archetype to larp with than a fantasy bunny princess. People already know what to expect from those character in terms of speech/accent and general personality traits, and ojousama in particular has tons of materials to larp with.

>>27014026
yeah her biggest strength is also her biggest weakness at this point
also doesnt help that her larp isnt eop friendly unlike peko or miko's

* YESTERDAY'S TWITCH TALLY *

- 27-Jun
> 14,513 : Nimu (SP Indie)
> 13,114 : Shoto (EN Indie)
> 11,758 : Jururu (KR Isegye Idol)
> 10,609 : Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol)
> 9,700 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 9,593 : Veibae (EN VShojo)
> 7,686 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 7,194 : Shylily (EN Indie)
> 6,654 : Chihiro (JP Nijisanji)
> 5,831 : Kurumi Noah (JP VSPO)
> 5,028 : Ratna Petit (JP Nijisanji)
> 4,740 : Lumituber (EN Indie)
> 4,620 : Numi (EN Indie)
> 4,318 : Froot (EN VShojo)

Comments >>26966292

>JUNE 2022 TWITCH GOLD
1) VIichan (Isedol) - 15,498 - Vocaloid WC React
2) Gosegu (Isedol) - 14,571 - VR Chat - tween model showcase
3) Ine (Isedol) - 14,343 - Zatsu, React
4) Lilpa (Isedol) - 16,556 - Zatsu, React
5) Kris Yim (Board of Trustees) - 19,915 - Black Mesa (Twitch main page)
6) Jingburger (Isedol) - 15,804 - Voting in anime OST championship
7) Shoto (Indie) - 12,513 - Playing Unpacking
8) Ine (Isedol) - 22,248 - Zatsu, React + The Spike
9) Gosegu (Isedol) - 14,832 - Poolside VR Chat
10) Nimu (Indie) - 21,050 - Among Us, Zatsu (7,501 before Raid)
11) Ine (Isedol) - 20,477 - Zatsu, React
12) VIichan (Isedol) - 14,668 - Butter cover MV in VRChat
13) Ine (Isedol) - 20,357 - Zatsu - model expressions update
14) Lilpa (Isedol) - 15,177 - 20 Minutes Till Dawn + Zatsu, Naver catchup
15) Jururu (Isedol) - 16,361 - Artery Gear: Fusion + Watching Waktaverse MVs
16) Ine (Isedol) - 13,021 - Continued Naver and clips catchup
17) Shoto (Indie) - 15,555 - Valorant with Vox
18) Lilpa (Isedol) - 15,717 - Zatsu after group song recording
19) Ine (Isedol) - 18,622 - Zatsu after group song recording
20) Jingburger (Isedol) - 12,455 - Expressions update + Valorant + Poopy Parker
21) VIichan (Isedol) - 11,037 - Zatsu, React + Chivalry 2
22) Ine (Isedol) - 14,031 - Zatsu, VR Chat React
23) Lilpa (Isedol) - 15,928 - Return, React - Naver and clips catchup
24) Ironmouse (VShojo) - 14,236 - Speak Of The Devil with Mori Calliope
25) Lilpa (Isedol) - 14,481 - Umamusume
26) Jururu (Isedol) - 13,871 - Reacting to the weekly WAK music top + Umamusume
27) Nimu (Indie) - 14,513 - Talking about the Ibai boxing event

>PER COMPANY
21x: Isegye Idol (Isedol)
4x: Indie
1x: Board of Trustees, VShojo

>PER STREAMER
7x: Ine
5x: Lilpa
3x: VIichan
2x: Gosegu, Jingburger, Jururu, Nimu, Shoto
1x: Ironmouse, Kris Yim

>>27014026
>her losing 65% of her viewerbase in less than 2 weeks.
Her numbers are down, but this is such a weird criticism. No one keeps their debut numbers (well Kobo and Luxiem are exceptions), especially when it's 90k viewers.
By this metric, HoloX is a catastrophic failure because they a even higher % of viewers in a shorter time frame.
Salome is still pulling 35-40k streams a month in.

>>27013941
Number?

>>27014115
the thing is is that beeg numbah are the only thing that she has to offer

>>27011938
Nina I know you're the one who leaked those /b/omu nudes, at least give us yours or maybe provide the motherless video.

>>27013772
The English version of Project Sekai is about a year behind the Japanese version so expect that song around June of 2023.

>>27014115
Thing is though she had the solo debut buff and meme gimmick buff which should have lasted longer and bigger than any group debut

>>27014152
We're in a numbers thread, not a vtuber quality thread tho?

>>27014115
>Her numbers are down, but this is such a weird criticism. No one keeps their debut numbers
you nijiniggers were acting like she would do just that two weeks ago.

>>27014117
Hmmm I'll give it a salami maybe with some mustard on the side.

Pre-primetime /news/ update for 28-06-2022
> Holocure article from Gamesradar (https://www.gamesradar.com/free-vampire-survivors-fan-game-holocure-is-so-popular-the-devs-had-to-turn-off-its-leaderboards/).).
> ANN article about Cover and Rushia statement (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2022-06-27/mikeneko-cover-corp-address-rumors-around-former-hololive-vtuber-uruha-rushia/.187100).).
> Nene doing a collaboration project with rhythm game "Tetote Connect" (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1541617597325914112).). Stream planned for July 7th.
> Nijisanji Summer Pool Event (in Minecraft) (https://youtu.be/6zMs_k6-IRg, https://youtu.be/lirCelZfe7U).).

Previous : >>26960279
slow day

>I got curious about how Luxiem members looked like so I went to the ol' reliable dox site and found out their fucking have 8k-18k
Why the fuck are fujos like this? Don't they know any other site to talk about them?

>>27014185
They will say that is falseflaging by holofans kek.

>>27014218
Wait, we got news post in numbers? what's happening here?

>>27013941
What are these two's 3D numbers btw

>>27014218
Hey news anon, pleased with the work you do. hope your job search is going well.

>>27014243 (me)
their fucking posts have 8k-18k comments***************************

>>27014178
Both of those buffs only got her a 94k peak debut. You might as well say she went viral with normies and that's a buff no vtuber has had since Gura. If anything, it's far more likely for tourists to pump and dump her after a week than have half of time stick around for a month.

>>27014185
Congratulations for listening to retards?

>>27014162
>maybe provide the motherless video.
Those are lost along with a lot of vids during the motherless purge im afraid which is a damn shame since a lot of quality vids are gone forever

>>27014115
HoloX crashed because CCV changed in January hurted their growth a lot. Remember new year outfit and Chloe only got around 45k while having the most sex outfit Hololive ever had. That period oddly ended right before Pekora birthday 3D live. Hell Towa 3D concert, MiKorone 24h stream and Pekora Pokemon tourney all got badly affected.

>>27014243
>he says, in a third fastest thread of one of the top five fastest boards in an anonymous imageboard that had a single vtuber thread not two years ago

>>27014243
The dox site is their subreddit. Lots of up to date posts.

>>27014307
>ccv crash
>only affected holo and nobody else
hmmmmm so is this another one of those imaginary ccv cull that i always hear about when it comes to holo numbers going down

>>27014307
>That period oddly ended right before Pekora birthday 3D live.
One that management told her to postpone for a couple of days for no particular reason

Kanata stream with her roommate 45K+ ez

>>27014355
Did you miss the Emperor making tweets about it, or you're just a newfag?

>>27014290
>You might as well say she went viral with normies and that's a buff no vtuber has had since Gura
youre forgetting about another blue woman

>>27014325
Its weird how fujos often gather in more gossipy places like doxsites, twitter and 4chan. I mean, why can't they just hang out in their discord? Those discords are still wasteland compared to Holo discords.

>>27014355
Holokeks always love to find excuse for their failure.
Please understand

>>27014274
We always did, newfag. It's funny because someone was trying to force a name change of the numbers thread and it was pretty much solved by common sense with simply linking back to previous news related posts in the thread... which led to one of the anons becoming a news roundup poster.

>>27013892
Again?
Dafuk he doin this time? I swear to god, the faggot just either needs to fuck off for real or dedicate himself to helping her incline.

>>27014307
I mean CCVID happened, but HoloX's numbers standardized a few weeks before that already. Their debut buff only lasted a week.
We already knew it was going to be:
>Laplus:15k+
>Chloe, Koyori, Iroha:10-12k
>Lui:5-10k
Iroha and Laplus reclined for numerous reasons and I'm surprised Koyori is still getting 10k on ep60 of her morning show tbqh.

Salome kept her debut buff for 2 weeks and arguably fucked her numbers harder than ever playing that Earthquake game. She's not really compable at all to most debuts.

>>27014451
Matsuri needs to demod him. He bans other translators because they don't meet his standards and the faggot refuses to translate himself. She's streaming in EN time and starting to get some momentum but she won't keep any of the tourists if she doesn't have a translator in chat.

>>27013832
>>27013845
Based OP. Made me click on the thread because I love these girls.

>>27014466
Koyori is actually inclining and Iroha kind of too, even though her incline is because she had reclined for streaming retarded games for a long time and now she's just stabilizing in her range expected from the beginning

>>27014394
thing is though nobody is complaining about it at the moment so yt must have fixed it already
ccv cope is just another excuse for hololives normal decline

recent outfit reveal for a high tier niji

>>27014536
>Koyori is actually inclining
GOOD based hardworking hag deserves too

>>27014497
I thought lyger was a translator? The fuck happened

>>27014536
Iroha was actually the most popular HoloX in the beginning. She was getting an easy 25k with Fall Guy streams and Jump King.

>>27014558
a real erection

>>27014115
Salome is particularly concerning because she is supposedly so popular that she became the most subbed niji in a month.
She has a lot more subs than even Gura did at this point but is already clocking streams under what Gura could get months after debut until YouTube messed with the CCV.

>>27014466
koyori's sort of interesting, she was stuck on 8k median for months, then got to 10k last month and she's pretty likely to finish this one on 12k, i'm betting she might hit a plateau again

>>27014536
>streaming retarded games for a long tim
Lmao you're telling me a week of 1 hr zatsus and FFXIV isn't good for numbers? That minecraft was the answer all along?

I was very surprised Koyori got 15k with RE and held 10k through overlap. I don't think Chloe can do that.

>>27014275
ニュイand her horse riding 3d peak at 150k.
So holo probably will lose that day

>>27014575
i haven't seen him translate for 2 years
dunno if he still does translation clips either

>>27014290
>You might as well say she went viral with normies and that's a buff no vtuber has had since Gura

>>27014575
>Was
Is the key term. As I said, he either needs to shape up or ship out and let others translate if he's gonna be the way he is.

>>27014575
He hasn't uploaded a translated clip in 9 months and he never live translates. He's a faggot who got insecure over Matsuri getting too popular in 2020 and deliberately tried to hamstring her popularity with overseas fans. Matsuri not being able to ride the EN wave like Fubuki and Pekora did is entirely down to Lyger fucking her over after he realized his band aid clip was getting too many newfags interested in her.

https://www.youtube.com/c/lygerTL/videos

>>27014466
Her debut was definitely not normal. The fact that you had people legit wondering if this was Kanae shitposting a week AFTER she debuted says it all. Her name being tied to the 1 mil fig incentiviced the meme of her getting to 1 mil subs too hence why the nips subbed to her in unprecedented numbers.

You know that it's kinda funny how nijisanji's idea of merch is just pasting art/name onto the merch and call it a day. I tried finding creative ones but ended up giving up half way through.

>>27014579
Naw the most popular was easily Chloe. Iroha couldn't touch those 98k karaoke and 80k radio station streams. Not even Laplus could.

>>27014115
>No one keeps their debut numbers
But she did, that's why everyone was losing their minds over her because she remains the first and to date the only vtuber who has managed to maintain debut numbers for regular streams for an entire month. Not even Gura during her height managed that, and I assure you if Gura had gotten 200k for every single stream she did back in August people would be crying foul too

>>27014600
I like your optimism, I give it 1 and a half salamis, maybe a few pepperonis.

>>27014675
Yes but those weren't her regular numbers. Chloe wasn't getting 20k+ for her regular gaming streams, Iroha was. Chloe has a high ceiling because of the coomer factor but her floor is pretty low.

https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1541696617392504832
Cover...

>>27014670
what else do you expect from the entertainment factory?

>>27014670
i remember someone coping with the they focus on the quality of voice packs instead of merch which is better than hololives
wonder if that is actually the case since i dont have any niji voicepack to compare it to

>>27014640
Gatekeeper is always bad for chuuba growth

>>27014575
>>27014634
>>27014640

he's doing translations for the official channel
https://youtu.be/faMrhSuGjo8

>>27014115
>No one keeps their debut numbers (well Kobo and Luxiem are exceptions), especially when it's 90k viewers.
Salome did. For like 8 streams of the same game. Which is unprecedented. Seems weird to go "Well yeah numbers always drop off after debut" when Salome is the only vtuber in history to maintain and improve on her debut numbers for so many streams, particularly in a multi part series of the same game.

>>27014710
>she remains the first and to date the only vtuber who has managed to maintain debut numbers for regular streams for an entire month
she lost 65% of her viewerbase in the last 2 weeks. stop lying.

Don't know if people already mentioned but HoloAlt PV 2 hit 5M.
The full version of the first is at 9.1M

>>27014713
Those two with wii sport can easily get 100k anon.
On holox side there is nothing new to debut or show.

>>27014558
ouch

>>27013865
i hope they find it lol

>>27014778
Not surprising since management is actually competent which helps the live meanwhile >>27014728 cant even promote their solo vsinger

>>27014710
Well technically Gura inclined one month in to 40-50k streams whereas Salome is now clearly stabilizing to 35-40k. It was an incredible 2 week streak, but it's finally starting to normalize.

intern-kun is back. early start today, huh? you normally start 2 hours later than this.

>>27014645
No saying that her name made everyone sub is such bs.
If those subs came from fans, why is she the most subbed niji? Why haven’t those fans subbed to people they supposedly like to watch?
If you think they came from outside, why would non vtuber fans care about any of this?
She also kept gaining subs well after 1 million which doesn’t make sense if they were just trying to get her to that goal.

>>27014728
can I have a 3d debu-
here's new song
can I have a 3d d-
here's new song
can I have a-
here's new song
can I-
here's new song
....
here's new song

>>27014713
Those 2 are 100k event streamers though so they can get those numbers

New Salami gameplay video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFuYPs4oxss

>>27014858
>back
intern has been camping in the mori threads and now that those are dying intern is coming back here to shill again

>>27014804
Trash mv that leads up to nothing

>>27014873
>Juat get post 5 min ago
>Already 20k views
Holyshit

>>27014862
>If you think they came from outside, why would non vtuber fans care about any of this?
I always hear anons talking about koshien bringing in niji tourists so maybe she got them from those?

>>27014873
EN3 should do this for their theme games. Prerecorded theme games and eave the live stuff for everything else.

>>27014839
>>27014421
>>27014355
>>27014871
Thanks to you we've reached the point where no one here will trust any claims made by nijifags without proof.
I wonder how much more damage you can do to the name of nijisanji

>>27014728
Nijisanji would have actually treated her better than Cover would

>>27014778
Yeah it was a great series but if you look at her numbers this week, it's clearly starting to fade. It just took longer than usual. It wasn't just the Earthquake game too seeing as her GTAV dropped from 90k to 40k. I'm saying it's a dumb critique because this is what normally happens, it just took longer.

>only vtuber in history to maintain and improve on her debut numbers for so many streams, particularly in a multi part series of the same game
Literally in what you quoted, Kobo and Luxiem are 6 clear examples of people inclining after debut and keeping it. They're just super rare exceptions.

>>27014976
Just look at this, it's another case of nijifags lying >>27014917

Pekora 22:00 instead of 20:00
https://youtu.be/61jYi1aCIh0

>>27014979
just like how they treated Melissa right?

>>27014986
>vox didn't even make the top 5
what happened? isn't he the face of EN vtubing?

>>27014986

>>27014728
Whover managing Irys should step down like holly shit.

>>27014979
yeah melissa got treated real nice by niji management huh

>>27014986
so, why is the yellow fag at the bottom of the totem pole now, didn't he use to be third

>>27014986
>Hakos Baelz
>19 streams
>9.002 max CCV
>[Insert Ymircrying.jpg]
I feel bad for her

>>27015013
Putting some distance between her and Kanata haha

>>27014932
Those people don’t sub. It’s hard, especially for JPs, to even get everyone that watches you to sub.
JP tourists are not going to sub in anywhere near those numbers.
Koshein even proves that.

>>27015025
>Mystia overtaking Gura
Maybe they are inclining after all

>>27014873
I thought she gonna post Disaster Report gameplay?
Did she just drop that game?

>>27014979
>multiple songs released
>NijiEN's best singers only has 1 or 2 covers

>>27014549
Just like Salami's current numbers?

>>27014993
what the fuck are you talking about, Kobo did not keep 50k people for two straight weeks for every stream she did, neither did any of Luxiem manage a 40k average. Salome debuted to 90k and kept getting 90k no matter what the fuck she streamed. For a moment there it really seemed like she could do a stream where she farted into her mic and gotten 90k.

>>27014599
Presence anon. We usually brush it off as "Twitch culture" but it does matter on Youtube to some extend
Like some people open Youtube at certain time and they see you streaming in their recommendation. One hour of no streaming, especially in prime time mean one less hour to present yourself out there in people's recommendation

>>27015070
>Those people don’t sub.
They might sub due to the meme name which made them curious
Although its gonna bite them in the butt now seeing as nothing happened at her 1m sub

>>27015013
Sasuga numbers rabbit, it's an intelligent move running away from Kanata overlapping the same game and Subaru even though she'll go against Usaken's live but since it's in Flare's channel she knows it won't get high numbers

Baelz could've inclined just by playing two games of Holocure while iron is hot, but she's taking a week off

>>27015013
>Going for the funnel from Shiraken instead of funneling into

>>27015138
You mean shiraken right?

>FUCKING KEK
Koyori with a 6 hours long SC reading is at the top of Rushia Slot with a peak of *drumroll* 3.5k.

COME ON GIRLS! It's an open slot, Rushia could make it work!

>>27015138
Usaken? Or Shiraken?

>>27015013
lol funnel rabbit never change
running away from heavy overlaps

>>27014986
>Fauna with a 10k median
Let's gooo. At least someone are taking advantange of a dead month.

Bae's month has been nothing short of catastrophic, but I think you missed a few streams because I'm sure she got a 10k minecraft in there this month.

>>27015041
Look at the kind of games he streams lol

Thu Jun 9 12:32:35 2022 No.25765252

Result

Nijisanji strategy
increase only 1 vtuber (salome) has cvv peak highest for build an IPO base .

>failed


Hololive stategy
Make all members have avg/median ccv 10k+ (inclined everyone in cover)

> it works

>>27015169
>koyori
>gfe
ruru rumao

>>27015147
tbf, if anyone's gotten fucked the most this meta it's myth. They're literally the main attraction of the game and they aren't even home! Gura wants to play it but only in her own station so that could be a whole week+ before she even touches it

>>27015160
>>27015171
Shiraken, I'm retarded and tired, see you tomorrow

>>27015169
funny thing about that koyo stream, she literally has instructions on how not to watch it and just wait for the archive to look your name up if you sent her something for her 3D, she sorted the scs by characters and alphabetic order

>>27015142
2 game stream can't save her.

>>27015169
?? Rushia SC reading doesn't get a lot of CCV anon. She typically gets 3k-5k with sc reading.

>>27015147
Odd she would have stayed there if Kanata didn't decided to cockblock her

>>27014993
No, Kobo and Luxiem did not consistently beat their debut numbers on any gameplay stream let alone a multipart stream.
They had an obvious period of incline as people found them naturally.
That’s what makes Salome so suspicious, new audiences don’t find you that fast in that high of numbers.

>>27015025
RUMAO HOLOEN

>>27015120
Are you brain dead? Look at the debut week numbers Kobo and Luxiem got then and compare them to what they're getting now. It's a clear fucking incline.
No one said shit about them getting 50k streams. We're talking about keeping and inclining from debut buff numbers.

>>27015241

Omg

>>27015025
no 10k avg for nijien this month ?

>pekora rescheduled HoloCure
Uhmmmmm.... Holobros??!

>>27014765
Yeah I agree, I remember some anon in Indo vtuber thread said that one of the major mistake of NijiID is because their fans are actually gatekeeping as fuck

>>27015251
That reason is probably the bigger one ya. Overlap hurts, just looking at what happened to Matsuri today and the triple overlap yesterday of Koyo, Lamy and Watame.

>>27015193
>inclined everyone in cover
Post homo and Mel numbers pls covershill

>>27015197
>>27015248
>Rushia SC rea-
Anons, I am not talking particularly about Koyori but about the lack of any other taker for the slot in such a way Koyori at her weakest content is dominating the slot with a pitiful 3.5k

Lots of girls could be camping the 6PM slot including some of the weakest on overlap but strong enough on their own (like Kanata)

>>27015064
It also helps Kanata too since HoloCure can be a slow incline and sometimes takes over an hour to reach peak.

>>27015287
Why is this a big deal again?

>>27015025
>mysta actually overtaking gura
how the mighty have fallen theyre slowly fading to irrelevancy noww

>>27015267
you are the one who's braindead or being deliberately disingenuous, Salome got THE SAME numbers as HER DEBUT STREAM for TWO STRAIGHT WEEKS no matter what she streamed. Nobody has done that in the history of vtubers, and trying to claim otherwise is either you being disingenous or missing the point

>>27015287
she saw kanata put up her frame. probably will suck the viewers since friend-c's asacoco reaction is expected. want to avoid it for max numbers

>>27015287
She won't beat salome gold anyway. She's a sub 20k holo why do you expect her to beat 40k stream of salome?

>>27015025
>Ranked by fucking hours watched

3,14

>>27015307
It's not even overlap this time though. Everyone literally vacated from that timeslot today and there's like 4 Holo ready to funnel into Pekora.
She probably know better than to do HoloCure right after another HoloCure stream

>>27015312
I dont think any of the girls likes that slot other than rushia
they might be using that time to eat or to prepare

>>27014993
There's a big difference to inclining as more people find you over time and simply having your debut viewers stick to you like glue for 6 streams.

>>27015333
You should learn to read because I have always been talking about debut week numbers, not debut stream numbers. We're not even talking about the same thing.

>>27015369
well fuck you we are talking about debut stream numbers because that's the odd thing about Salome, piss off

* streams over 10k so far *
kek, there is a shitpost to be made there, it won't be me doing it tho

>>27015389
Is voxx streaming today?

>>27015127
I already explained why that excuse doesn’t hold water.
There is no way that many people subbed because of a name.

>>27015389
Damn good job Kronii

>>27015409
minecraft. he'll be lucky to break 10k

>>27015275
yep, i've had her on the background, she's done with numbers, latin alphabet and hiragana/katakana, she's currently doing the kanji names and has a section for koreans and others at the end

>>27015385
>that's the odd thing about Salome
It's called being a viral cultural phenomenon.

>>27015013

Okay 80K +

>>27015251
The scheduled wasn't sure in the first place. It was in her description earlier, it's either 20 or 21 depends when her meeting ends. I think her meeting will end up late and she'll overlap with Shiraken hence she decided to go with 22. Or subaru will also play the same game lol

>>27015389
Pekora won't beat kronii's holocure stream.

>>27015436
Is it time?

After a very long time, Ollie finally caught up with Moona

>>27015446
so was Gura and she didn't maintain her debut numbers for 2 weeks no matter what she streamed, find another excuse

>>27015389
Is this the biggest HoloEN solo gaming stream this year not counting Gura?

You guys can take Leos as your example
>debut number: 90k
>normal stream's number: 2k - 3k

>>27015446
>viral cultural phenomenon
lmao. she's a FOTM at best.

>>27015352
nijitards cant read tables please understand

>>27015436
>>He will passed kronii or not ?

>>27015457
Meeting? She is not the type to bother with official Holo duty, though it might related to several projects on Summer

Sora is on pace to beat Polka to 1M

>>27015082
>>27015325
>People think Mysta is great when he needs 50 hours more to beat Gura with small margins
"Data is Useless Without Context"

>>27015486
Salome actually beat her debut numbers with her gaming numbers, that's why people thought she would perform differently

>>27015312
koyo used to take the 6pm slot a lot before, but as she's gotten busier with dance lessons, voice training and other stuff, she comes home later so she can't anymore

These Salome shill posts read exactly like when she debut. I kind of miss them

>>27015467
what the fuck ollie's subs growth is better than moona ?

>>27015510
GO CLUSSY
GO DAISENPAI

>>27015352
Haven't we always done that? What do you think these charts are ranked by?

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3175662
Wait a minute is this guy one of us? I'm pretty sure only this place refers to VSPO as the third biggest company in Japan, for everyone else that spot still belongs to 774

>>27015510
Interestingly Kobo is on pace to beat both to it

>>27015486
Who the fuck is Leos?

>>27015510
omar should stop debuffing herself
anyway GO GO DAISENPAI

>>27015417
>I already explained why that excuse doesn’t hold water.
Why? People have been doing it since before salome on youtube
There are multiple lets get this video to 1m likes or lets get this channel to 1m subs and the most successful ones are usually the ones with big names behind them

>>27015585
dang, she really hit it with normies

>>27015446
That takes time to spread, not less than 24 hours.

>>27015559

Holocure

>>27015576
Every stats that doesn't put Gura at top is invalid!!

>>27014728
https://twitter.com/pakosun/status/1541703646475218944

Pako-sen ...

>>27015486
Leos didnt beat his debut number with a regular gaming stream though in fact i dont recall anyone who has

>>27015575
Already discussed and laughed at - see >>27010454

>>27015482
Gura at debut was a phenomenon to a niche audience much smaller than the JP vtuber audience, which has grown multiple times larger in the past 1.5 years.

Apart from her 2 costumes and that one karaoke in 2020, there has never been an EN vtuber stream over 100k viewers while we have a dozen a year on the JP side. Salome was a bigger phenomenon to a bigger audience.

The craziest thing about Gura wasn't just her speed to 1 mil anyways, it's how she kept going faster after 1 mil. Doesnt appear like Salome is a phenomenon in this aspect.

>>27015576
Anon, please..

>>27015639
if you want to be anal about it, most holojps from early gens have done that

>>27015655
The absurd stunted growth right after Salome hit 1 million is so funny. And Salomefag would still deny that people only sub to her for meme
In under 1 week her sub growth per day went from 80k down to 10k right after she hit 1 million

>>27015639
A lot of old big name Vtubers have beat their debut number with their regular stream though?
Like kuzuha, miko, pekora...etc.

>>27015655
And gura still hasn't gotten her debut numbers for her regular streams for two straight weeks so ergo Salome getting her debut numbers for her regular streams for two straight weeks cannot be explained by her being a cultural phenomenon, regardless of if it's true or not, find a different angle

>>27015655
is shalom still gaining 10k/ day or has it slowed to 10k/3days ?

>>27015655
even with the headstart to 1m, can salome beat gura to 2m subs, or has her growth slowed too much?

>>27015671
>>27015709
they did? on the same week?

>>27015709
based on their content. What they haven't done however is gotten past their debut numbers streaming part eight of a 5 year old game

>>27015709
Did they all get 90k on their debuts like salome?

>>27014728
IRyS...goddamn you deserve better

>>27015753
you got those answers because you have to be more specific anon

What's with the schizo who keeps harping on Salome's numbers?

>>27015721
She might have hit a wall if i recall but she might get boosted if she gets her a new outfit or a 3d or a concert which are still buff things that they havent done

>>27015609
YT and TikTok's algo constantly push her. She's also entertaining so a lot of tourist subcribed.

>>27015671
In the same fucking week of a 90k debut?

>>27015655
There haven’t been many EN vtuber streams over 100k for a couple reasons.
The major reason is that those are event tier numbers and EN vtubers aren’t able to have those like JP can.
The other reason is because the cull disproportionately effects non JP audiences.
100k is still an event tier stream for JPs, there isn’t even currently a JP that can consistently hit 30k on streams let alone what Salome was getting.

>>27015790
so they didn't

>>27015717
You know things can be bigger and still be phenomenons right?
Vtubing in 2022 is much bigger than it was in 2020, especially on the JP side. Gura during her debut period, never got the mainstream attention from NA that Salome got from JPs.
Gura didn't even reach her CCV peak until a month in and her peak for regular streams was never as big as Salome's, because JP vtubing in 2022 >>> NA vtubing in 2020.

I've just realized that this is happening today: https://twitter.com/inugamikorone/status/1541713315855888384
Is Pekora trying to get the funnel (not from Korone but from the main stream) or I'm overthinking it?

>>27015807
it's the only thing Nijisanji has, please understand

>>27015855
Nah you are overthinking it
The only reason Pekora move her stream today is because of Kanata

>>27015824
>The other reason is because the cull disproportionately effects non JP audiences.
Anon...EN may be culled more than JP but the main reason for the lower numbers is that the EN audience is just both smaller and less centralized than the JP audience
Vtubing is borderline mainstream in Japan, while they're still niche for western audiences

>>27015807
Harping on *past* number mind you

>>27015894
Why would rabbit avoid kanata? Is kanata playing the game with her roommate?

>>27015936
because Kanata will definitely play it for more than one hour and she doesn't want to have her overlap with the same game

Red Bora teasing utawaku.... g-gold?
https://twitter.com/tsuna_nekota/status/1541712849697124352

>>27015576
>we
That particular table isn't from here and that type of ranking has always been debated over by the anons ITT.

>>27015964
Could beat rabbit numbers and secure niji gold

>>27015846
Explain how Salome’s CCV fell off faster than Gura’s despite having many more subs at this time.
You’d also have to explain how she reached outside circles in such large numbers in less than 24 hours that she beat her debut numbers.
Your argument also hinges on the idea that these were vtuber fans watching her but her stats prove otherwise.

I find it funny how many people are trying to find ways to keep Hololive from getting gold. Just accept the inevitable that Hololive is going to tie with Nijisanji this month despite Niji having a huge lead.

>>27015025
>Luxiem in the top spots
See working hard does pay off in the end

>>27015960
subaru is playing minecraft or holocure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvidiKGqU9o

>>27015824
When Ame's myth anniversary VOD is at 1.8 mil views, but it only peaked at 70k, it seems the reason for NA time CCV peaks being lower is there's not as many people watching at 1 timeslot and the fanbases are scattered internationally.

>there isn’t even currently a JP that can consistently hit 30k on streams let alone what Salome was getting.
Except we know streamers like that do exist, like Jun on the JP side and xQc on the EN side, so it is theoretically possible, just never happened to vtuber and unclear if sustainable. Salome is the longest a vtuber has sustained that level of viewership, but all things come to an end eventually.

>>27015936
Because both of them are mid tier holo. It will hurt her number.

>>27016025
ngl I still think niji will win since it takes just one holo slippage, but man it would be the ultimate comeback if holo ties

>>27016025
Hololive doesnt have anything that could secure gold for the next couple of days especially with salome still being a 40k streamer and some events coming up including the VSPO one

>>27015936
Having 2 streams with the same game back to back does sound tiring for viewers. Tourist not gonna funnel from a game stream to another with the exact same game immediately after

>>27016025
wins one month out of twelve and they'll act like holo declined to the bottom of the trash can and niji is recognized worldwide

>>27016049
Now I get why Pekora moved her stream

>>27015990
>that type of ranking has always been debated over by the anons ITT.
No it hasn't. It wasn't until ENfags started getting BTFO because their streamers won't fucking stream that they tried to shift to something else but watch hours has always been the primary metric for comparing vtubers due to the fact it combines average CCV with stream output.

>>27016102
lol this literally happen yesterday.

>>27016059
>xQc on the EN side
>comparing twitch and youtube streamers views
?

>>27014932
>JP
>sub
That never happens. This to me is one of the weirdest shit about JP culture
>pic related
This is hiyocro, a 774 unit. They’ve been at it for more than half a year now. They’re CCV fluctuates from 700-1k. In terms of CCV, they’re successful 3views. But holy fuck nobody subs to them. Other nijis and indies who can get that CCV would be sitting at 50k+ Subs. And yet they’re barely above 10k for months. Its fucking baffling from an outsider perspective. But Salome getting 1M from the same barely subbing internet culture is even more insane.

>>27016135
Yeah no shit, Pekora of all people would know that

>>27015990
Eh, it's useful because it includes all metrics, but the holostats table and the chart for medians are (obviously) done by different people.

>>27016157
It funnel though what are you talking about.?

>>27015936
Kanata is nothing
what I think the issue is because of Subaru
this is not the first time EVERYONE suddenly re-schedule to avoid her for no good reason
I mean look at all those buff game Subaru did, ALWAYS happened on that one magical primetime slot with zero overlaps like a fucking 3D Live
it's like her and management bullied others to clear the way for her
it happens so many times it isn't funny anymore

>>27014710
Lies I saw a 2view debut with 10 views and she kept that view count for 1 year

Bro...honestly Just kanata is enough to passed salome.....

Does anyone think that HoloCure is a way that God helps Yagoo again? He is too lucky for this industry.

>>27016185
But not as much I assume

>>27016059
>twitch
are you retarded for some reason?

>>27016187
She did stole Pekora's weekend timeslot all for herself

>>27016012
>Explain how Salome’s CCV fell off faster than Gura’s despite having many more subs at this time
Tourists lost interest after RE7 ended and she started playing the biggest debuff game I've ever seen.

>You’d also have to explain how she reached outside circles in such large numbers in less than 24 hours that she beat her debut numbers
Salome's debut went viral and spread like wildfire. It has 4.1 mil views already and it got most of that in the first 2 weeks. Vtubers from all companies talked about her or mentioned her. It just got bigger and bigger as the week went on. Fucking Redjuice talked more about Salome than he ever did about Irys and I'll never forgive him for it.

>Your argument also hinges on the idea that these were vtuber fans watching her but her stats prove otherwise.
I said vtubing is bigger than ever as a concept and audience, but I never said it's big enough to permanently sustain 90k viewers. She went viral so obviously a huge chunk of her audiences were either new to vtubing, tourists, or old guard who didn't like Holo or Niji.

>>27016187
>surprised that everyone avoids overlapping with tanigos daughter

>>27016059
That “70k” was a lot larger than 70k.
VODs are disproportionately high for EN because their CCV is off by a lot and the higher the CCV shown the more people missing.
I was talking about vtubers for the second point but everyone you listed had grown a fan base for years.
Salome literally just debuted and did something that has never happened before with no tangible evidence that it should have been possible.

>>27016231
It's having fan's goodwill
something nijiniggers will never have since they are busy making fun of other tubers instead of spending time fostering a good community

>>27016231
>God
Aim lower

>>27016294
>spending time fostering a good community
the en vs jp holo fans says otherwise

>>27016277
>Salome's debut went viral and spread like wildfire. It has 4.1 mil views already and it got most of that in the first 2 weeks. Vtubers from all companies talked about her or mentioned her.
Revisionism. This only happened AFTER her massive numbers. There was absolutely nothing notable about her debut.

>>27016231
God is a holofag, it is known

It's funny how people wants to find number related reasons for all Pekora's actions. She moved her stream because she's busy with work. She warned about possible delay yesterday and 99% of time Pekora does that she delays her stream.

>>27016344
>He think this e-celeb board that even 4chan itself despise is the entire community

https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1541715417353228289
what did she mean by this?

>>27016370
Its because she's reclining.

>>27016277
The fact that her zatsudan without her face on it got like, 40somethingk really indicated to me that those who were watching her were really only thee because she showed up in the recommends with a recognizable thumbnail.
Turbo-tourists, which are even MORE FOTM than normal tourists.
Honestly a showcase in the power of how BIG someone can get if the YT algo pushes them, but she failed to do anything to MAINTAIN the interest of these turbo tourists once she finished up RE:7 and went straight to a super-filtering game.

the mods really should lock this entire board down during SEA hours. it's getting out of hand.

>>27016344
you spend too much time /here if you think en vs jp holo fans arguments happen frequently outside of 4ch

>>27016383
Anya's body is smol

>>27016291
>did something that has never happened before with no tangible evidence that it should have been possible.
You could say the same about Gura with her getting to 1 mil subs in a month and getting 4 mil subs before anyone in HoloJP got to 2 mil. Things are always thought to be impossible until they happen.
I don't even know how this is a debate, Salome has the VOD views to backup the absurd CCV in her first 2 weeks so it's not like it's a fake number.

>>27016383
i'm gonna get fucking banned for racism so i'll refrain from replying

>>27016291
>That “70k” was a lot larger than 70k.
Again, EN may be culled more than JP but high view/CCV ratio is mostly due to the non-centralized nature of the EN audience. We don't have the advantage of a single timezone that JP has

>>27016402
he's a nijinigger and forgot that the hololive fanbase isn't all here like the NijiEN fanbase is

>>27016361
>There was absolutely nothing notable about her debut
on the eop side on jp she got viral for a while the same way kobo got viral in indonesia but not in the en side

>>27016231

I'm god okay ?

>>27016344
Anon, this en vs JP nonsense is ridiculous to everyone and just makes me shake my head every time it pops up in /#/. It's usually pushed by 2-3 faggots too, and it's pretty obvious when theybdo it too since they've been at it for pretty much a year+ now. Outside of this thread and maybe /hlg/, such notions will basically get you a weird look and people thinking you need to take some goddamn meds.

>>27016383
>talking shit about a holojp senpai
she's gonna graduate

>>27016439
>See this post
>Automatically read it with Pekora voice in my head

>>27016439
Stop browsing 4chan Matsuri it's not healthy

>>27016361
Bruh everyone in JP was talking about how unique it was for a vtuber to debut showing pics of her GI tract and how she filled out a form that "doxxed" herself. Clips of her were getting a 600-800k views in a day.
It was literally a viral debut.

>>27016449
Nijiniggers are used to seeing the discussions on /vt/ be representative of the entire fanbase, please understand

>>27016457
Depend on which senpai, some of them are pretty nice to their kouhais, some of them...uhhhhh, wouldn't take banter too lightly

>>27016470
>God is on holo side due to holocure
>Matsuri is the one that got the first biggest boost from holocure

Aieeee I kneel my numberqueen, you've been thinking ahead so many times just to grab a few more viewers here and there...

>>27016383
Do indogs just slam their head into keyboard to type?

where's nijicure? i just want one 10k gaming stream.

Do you guys just look and discuss numbers all day?

>>27016277
You didn’t explain anything coherently.
People are not going to watch a multipart stream of a game that’s been played to death in that high of number for the game.
But they also were clearly not there for her considering her fall off and how poorly her talking streams did.
Going viral takes time to reach people outside immediate circles.
Those people will slowly start to show up in metrics.
We’ve seen this multiple times now with Gura, Luxiem and Kobo.
Salome pretty much has the opposite happen to her.
The numbers that she was getting were large event numbers.
Vtubing is not so large in Japan that those are in anyway realistic viewership numbers for what she was doing even with being viral.

More clip numbers.

Rank ~ Channel ~ Clip Views ~ Weighted Clips ~ Total Clips
1 ~ La+ Darknesss ~ 1,245,387 ~ 71.8 ~ 100
2 ~ Inugami Korone ~ 992,468 ~ 28.4 ~ 40
3 ~ Usada Pekora ~ 934,489 ~ 67.1 ~ 87
4 ~ Hyakumantenbara Salome ~ 906,780 ~ 19.1 ~ 21
5 ~ Nanashi Mumei ~ 854,056 ~ 43.9 ~ 58
6 ~ Tsunomaki Watame ~ 710,331 ~ 56.9 ~ 73
7 ~ Yukihana Lamy ~ 705,324 ~ 33.6 ~ 43
8 ~ Mori Calliope ~ 679,526 ~ 19.5 ~ 33
9 ~ Gawr Gura ~ 641,039 ~ 10.9 ~ 26
10 ~ Sakura Miko ~ 553,073 ~ 11.4 ~ 24
11 ~ Hololive VTuber Group ~ 550,354 ~ 11.6 ~ 30
12 ~ Shirogane Noel ~ 537,578 ~ 28.6 ~ 53
13 ~ Kobo Kanaeru ~ 515,575 ~ 34.1 ~ 40
14 ~ Ouro Kronii ~ 500,669 ~ 34.3 ~ 46
15 ~ Takane Lui ~ 498,447 ~ 29.2 ~ 49
16 ~ Kanae ~ 456,197 ~ 8.9 ~ 15
17 ~ Natsuiro Matsuri ~ 444,648 ~ 7.4 ~ 16
18 ~ Vox Akuma ~ 382,860 ~ 21.6 ~ 26
19 ~ Shirakami Fubuki ~ 380,400 ~ 22.5 ~ 41
20 ~ Kuzuha ~ 380,105 ~ 1.8 ~ 4
21 ~ Houshou Marine ~ 376,613 ~ 7.6 ~ 24
22 ~ Momosuzu Nene ~ 366,660 ~ 28.1 ~ 45
23 ~ Oozora Subaru ~ 353,949 ~ 7.7 ~ 15
24 ~ Kazama Iroha ~ 349,008 ~ 21.4 ~ 37
25 ~ Ookami Mio ~ 321,165 ~ 12.3 ~ 23
26 ~ Sakamata Chloe ~ 320,213 ~ 11.9 ~ 39
27 ~ Yashiro Kizuku ~ 298,976 ~ 6.4 ~ 19
28 ~ Takanashi Kiara ~ 290,390 ~ 10.8 ~ 26
29 ~ Watson Amelia ~ 283,829 ~ 14.5 ~ 28
30 ~ Kureiji Ollie ~ 282,974 ~ 7.4 ~ 16
31 ~ Ceres Fauna ~ 280,910 ~ 13.8 ~ 26
32 ~ Mysta Rias ~ 276,232 ~ 5.7 ~ 8
33 ~ Nekomata Okayu ~ 273,889 ~ 8.8 ~ 15
34 ~ Hanabatake Chaika ~ 266,897 ~ 13.2 ~ 26
35 ~ Ninomae Ina’nis ~ 260,835 ~ 5.5 ~ 16
36 ~ Hoshimachi Suisei ~ 259,298 ~ 7.0 ~ 16
37 ~ Hakui Koyori ~ 250,315 ~ 25.3 ~ 43
38 ~ Kaida Haru ~ 235,426 ~ 4.3 ~ 11
39 ~ Tokoyami Towa ~ 229,581 ~ 8.2 ~ 30
40 ~ Nijisanji ~ 226,257 ~ 2.3 ~ 7
41 ~ Shishiro Botan ~ 226,245 ~ 7.6 ~ 11
42 ~ Amane Kanata ~ 225,156 ~ 5.0 ~ 14
43 ~ Ange Katrina ~ 218,629 ~ 4.8 ~ 10
44 ~ Ike Eveland ~ 213,362 ~ 4.5 ~ 7
45 ~ Luca Kaneshiro ~ 210,185 ~ 3.5 ~ 8
46 ~ Hakos Baelz ~ 200,769 ~ 6.0 ~ 16
47 ~ Minato Aqua ~ 197,323 ~ 1.9 ~ 7
48 ~ Kenmochi Toya ~ 186,041 ~ 4.6 ~ 9
49 ~ Pavolia Reine ~ 183,422 ~ 8.6 ~ 14
50 ~ Shu Yamino ~ 164,466 ~ 6.1 ~ 11

Laplus(30->1) shooting to the top with the 3D. For Holocure buffs, Korone(1->2), Pekora(2->3), Mumei(7->5), Watame(31->6), Lamy(10->7), Kronii(34->14), Lui(35->15), Matsuri(3->17). Koyori(37) and Ollie(30) have fallen off in favour of newer reactions.
Salome still strong at 4th. Kanae(27->16) had a good performance today, as well as Nene(46->22), Amelia(48->29), Okayu(53->33), Chaika(69->34), Haru(97->38), Reine(95->49).
Split today is 18.1M to 9.6M.

>>27016489
Kobo is talking shit about Anya

>>27016449
When I see JP vs EN, I just silently laugh since Nijisanji can't offer anything big that 4chan has to always use EN vs JP as the main bait material.
Hololive as a whole is just that strong.

>>27016527
we would love to but tribalfags keep inserting their bullshit into our pure numbers discussion all day

>>27015467
>Check Moona's channel
>Streamed 5 days ago
Well, that explains it, this is why streaming consistently is important.

>>27016528
>Vtubing is not so large in Japan that those are in anyway realistic viewership numbers for what she was doing even with being viral.
So what, you think it's all bots?

>>27016539
>implying numbers is not the root cause of tribalfagging

>>27016530
Even with Salome, the number of clip views for Nijisanji is only like half of what Hololive has

>>27016449
ENfags have always been the niggers of vtubing.

t. JPchad.

>>27016383

Stupid vox, I'll passed you soon. just cry and go to the mental hospital , that's all you can .

>>27016579
nigger you know full well that tribalfags don't need numbers to tribalfag

>>27016125
>No it hasn't.
Incredibly new hands typing. The whole "hours watched" argument goes back to before this board even existed and even in this board you can find posts that questioned the metric for a number of obvious reasons (chief among them, the lack of a direct watch time source from YouTube) all the way back to the early days of the board. That you seem to not know this makes me even question where were you when this happened.

>>27016583
This and unironically

anya is not a jp talent though?

>>27016518
No holocure for you /b/omu you have this one tho

>>27016518
you fucked it up with your metal gear streams you fucking whore
not getting 10k playing a kino kojima game is such a fucking disgrace

>>27016583
Nigger you tried to get Towa in trouble by reporting her to Narukami, poiss off

>>27016598
That's "hours watched per time" which was made up by a Chumbud. Hours watched has always been a staple metric of /#/

>>27016579
There's number tribalfagging and then quality tribalfagging when numbers don't work out in your favor.

>>27014115
>Her numbers are down, but this is such a weird criticism
Dude, she went from averaging 90k-100k for the first 2-3 weeks to barely getting 40k the next week just because she played disaster report. Nobody drops as hard and as fast as she did after the first weeks

>>27016615
anon, she's japanese

>>27016406
You can easily view farm both VODs and CCV at the same time.
Gura’s incline made sense.
People can very easily point out how and why she got those subs.
Gura also followed the pattern that other viral vtubers have followed.
The same patterns that Salome completely broke.

>>27016618
>hololive has a yab
>nijisanji tries to outyab them
every time to the point that this feels like an all out...

>>27016623
>Hours watched has always been a staple metric of /#/

>>27016615
Watch streams.

>>27016618
Has this image been posted anywhere else?

>>27016633
>>27016674
she's indonesian though? she's ID talent

>>27016512
Holy cropping, literally just use wand in photoshop and it would be miles better

>>27016703
>>27016674

>>27016703
you sure about that bud

>>27016416
This isn’t actually true.
Similar sized ENs and JPs get similar VOD only viewership in the short term.
Gura only differs in that months later her VODs still can get views.

>>27016697
yeah but it cant get the same you's as the mori one so people are still using mori as the meta

>>27016650
>Gura’s incline made sense
Wtf nothing about Gura's incline made sense. She got to 1 mil in a month and grew faster afterwards. She has twice as many subs as the 2nd most subbed Holo. Her song growth is the most absurd in vtubing history.

She broke trends just as badly as Salome did.

>>27016659
Literally the only posts in the archive debating hours watched come from ENfags, primarily Chumbuds, who are upset their talents get mogged.

>>27015026
that goes against LORE

>>27016718
The original cropped one was much worse, I also don't have a usable computer at the moment so I can't really do much better than that on a phone.

>>27016722
>>27016725
yes?

>>27016697
it came from the catalogue actually

>>27016659
Some people try to rewrite history

>>27013892
seeing how disgusting the situation is with Matsuri makes me really appreciate the distance my oshi makes sure to keep from any individual viewer

Matsuri should fucking know better too, she's one of the most fan-mesen able of most

>>27016703
Kek, even ID viewers themselves just decided that Anya is Japanese

>>27016787
Cumbuds indeed do yes.

>>27016697
Yes its in the catalog noor is there too defending his " livers " kek

>>27016765
nobody fucking uses hours watched in numbers, the key metric for us has always been median CCV ever since average CCV got tossed out

More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>27016530

Rank ~ Channel ~ Recent Views ~ Daily Difference
1 ~ La+ Darknesss ~ 1,033,679 ~ (1,006,965)
2 ~ Nanashi Mumei ~ 715,060 ~ (139,767)
3 ~ Tsunomaki Watame ~ 554,023 ~ (480,048)
4 ~ Yukihana Lamy ~ 396,286 ~ (152,366)
5 ~ Inugami Korone ~ 334,938 ~ (-1,008,409)
6 ~ Takane Lui ~ 334,876 ~ (260,273)
7 ~ Usada Pekora ~ 331,561 ~ (-21,967)
8 ~ Ouro Kronii ~ 299,078 ~ (250,034)
9 ~ Mori Calliope ~ 282,432 ~ (154,719)
10 ~ Momosuzu Nene ~ 254,777 ~ (198,686)
11 ~ Hololive VTuber Group ~ 220,615 ~ (-46,682)
12 ~ Kanae ~ 205,222 ~ (163,713)
13 ~ Shirakami Fubuki ~ 179,999 ~ (9,063)
14 ~ Kaida Haru ~ 179,847 ~ (175,029)
15 ~ Hyakumantenbara Salome ~ 178,949 ~ (24,001)
16 ~ Hanabatake Chaika ~ 178,260 ~ (173,653)
17 ~ Shirogane Noel ~ 167,988 ~ (-169,067)
18 ~ Ookami Mio ~ 157,241 ~ (-18,329)
19 ~ Yashiro Kizuku ~ 151,350 ~ (-18,294)
20 ~ Watson Amelia ~ 151,098 ~ (105,470)
21 ~ Kobo Kanaeru ~ 147,678 ~ (48,704)
22 ~ Pavolia Reine ~ 133,995 ~ (126,861)
23 ~ Nekomata Okayu ~ 133,060 ~ (121,274)
24 ~ Vox Akuma ~ 122,627 ~ (-145,386)
25 ~ Kazama Iroha ~ 121,355 ~ (-55,183)
26 ~ Natsuiro Matsuri ~ 112,640 ~ (-627,486)
27 ~ Ratna Petit ~ 97,594 ~ (95,108)
28 ~ Kureiji Ollie ~ 96,176 ~ (-204,366)
29 ~ Ceres Fauna ~ 92,428 ~ (-45,465)
30 ~ Shiina Yuika ~ 92,190 ~ (88,427)
31 ~ Hakui Koyori ~ 92,100 ~ (-47,298)
32 ~ Honma Himawari ~ 81,958 ~ (81,308)
33 ~ Sakamata Chloe ~ 76,326 ~ (-19,724)
34 ~ Ninomae Ina’nis ~ 75,263 ~ (-11,556)
35 ~ Takanashi Kiara ~ 71,671 ~ (-1,993)
36 ~ Gawr Gura ~ 70,202 ~ (-123,440)
37 ~ Vestia Zeta ~ 64,913 ~ (-1,557)
38 ~ Sakura Miko ~ 64,821 ~ (20,623)
39 ~ Mysta Rias ~ 60,469 ~ (-8,627)
40 ~ Elira Pendora ~ 60,210 ~ (-28,630)
41 ~ Omaru Polka ~ 59,729 ~ (28,635)
42 ~ Tokoyami Towa ~ 57,276 ~ (-30,262)
43 ~ Kuzuha ~ 56,015 ~ (56,015)
44 ~ Ike Eveland ~ 51,047 ~ (-11,413)
45 ~ Selen Tatsuki ~ 49,210 ~ (-39,849)
46 ~ Yuuki Chihiro ~ 45,325 ~ (45,325)
47 ~ Luca Kaneshiro ~ 42,698 ~ (17,580)
48 ~ Houshou Marine ~ 42,529 ~ (-6,203)
49 ~ Hakos Baelz ~ 41,428 ~ (-18,060)
50 ~ Petra Gurin ~ 41,299 ~ (36,693)

Laplus at the top obviously. Mumei gets more mature clip views as content is milked, while Watame, Lamy, Lui, Kronii all get more recent clip interest for Holocure distributed between them, making Holocure streamers take up 7 of the top 10 recent.
Nene has high retention with her MC streams. Note several of the lower views are from 1-4 good clips, while the top have over 20. Without buffs, it is hard to stand out.

>>27016775
https://youtu.be/IV86-FTGFys

>>27016806
why are nijiniggers like this?

>>27016814
passive aggressive white women cat fight is such a joy to watch

>>27016618
got any timestamps for a curious onlooker?

https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1541723807836057600
But stream it you dumb cat

>>27016822
Median CCV is good but it doesn't take into account stream length which means it can't be used on its own. Also you end up with some weird shit like Ayame topping the rankings with 5 streams a month because she literally only ever does special events.

>>27016839
What a toxic fanbase the chumbuds are, no wonder why they're hated by absolutely everyone else. You wouldn't see that much toxicity on the other companies... Must be the effect of the box.

>>27016866
Welp it was likely going to be faked, but there goes the potential viral "Fubuki reacts to Fubuzilla for the first time!" clip.
RIP Sushi.

>>27016895
what is wrong with nijiniggers?

>>27016866
>Playing it off stream
>We don't get to see Fubukis reaction to Fubuzilla
Fuck

>>27016852
see

>>27016575
Not all bots. I think she actually has a Pekora sized real viewerbase at around 20-30k.
I don’t for a second think that all those views and subs came from real people though.
There are far too many unexplainable things going on with her.
Another weird thing for instance is that even when her viewership first tanked and she had a couple thousand fewer chatters, Mito was still the highest overlap and still at only 14%.
If everything was legitimate, those stats should have been much different.

>>27016825
Are these EN clips or EN +JP clips?

>>27016866
She only stream when she already maximize everything in game, just like Botan back when she played VS

WHERE THE FUCK IS KANATA?

>>27016866
Bro she already made it clear that she will only stream it after she top the leader board

>>27016866
>Demo with around 2 hours of content
>Plays it all off stream
...What the fuck?

>>27016939
All

Which one of you fuckers said this was going to be gold again?

>>27016946
having sex

>>27016956
She is probably waiting until Kay Yu releases Gamers anon

>>27016946
Oh no....what happened to the last person who disrupt Pekora's schedule?

>>27016945
She'll probably only stream endless mode then. Not sure how much content you can squeeze out of that tho.

>>27016945
Why? That's retarded. Who wants to watch her maxed out shit crushing the game after shes grinded off stream for 20 hours?

>>27016946
pls andastand she probably overslept

>>27016966
Yeah, me.

>>27016966
Can't you see? It's 92k ccv right now, close to 100k in less than 10 minutes

>>27016966
>9k 8 minutes in
Cmon now

>>27014115
I think Niji fans dubbing her as the Gura Killer fucked her numbers up.

>>27016966
>8 minutes in

>>27017008
>>27017013
Nijicope

>>27017018
Cope my ass, fucking give it some time

Nene easy 10k. Didn't people say she had reclined?
Did she unreclined?

>>27017008
>>27017013
towa&nene is nearing 11k 9 minutes in

>>27016902
I think it was funny that there actually was one real instance that can be vetted of one faking a reaction, and that was Matsuri making the Micomet collab on stream and acting surprised at it, when that same day she posted a picture earlier of her playing offstream showing she already made it KEK

But it’s ok. I’ll watch fbk play when she’s ready. She always makes things fun

>>27016096
Miko WWE or HoloCure

NIJI GOLD
>NIJI GOLD
NIJI GOLD
>NIJI GOLD

Nice race for this slot

>>27017030
sure bro, sure

>There are people /here/ who doesn't know about the time PekoMiko was trying to get the "Most watched female streamer" award

Twitch unironically killed "hour watched" as a metric, and I not be convinced otherwise

>>27017009
The famous jinx

towa&nene 12k getto !

>>27017044
I'll prefer that over Kronii, who appeared like she didn't get most of the references lmao.
No reaction to elite lava bucket, psycho axe or pichi pichi pima.

>>27017078
shouldn't we count all of the nijis together for the tally, since it's a multi POV of the same event thing? it only seems fair.

>>27017110
nijicope

>>27017089
Well time to do it again because Thotmouranth is out and IronLung certainly didn't grab that many hours watched with her "marathon".

>>27016758
She debuted as one of the first big corporate EN vtubers during a time when stream watching was at its all time peak.
Vtubers were a pretty hot topic at the time too because people were wondering what the deal was.
She also was a well known person that already had close to 1 million subs.
Gura fit right into the pattern that viral things do.
She started out pretty strong but got even stronger weeks later as things spread.
Even with all of that Salome somehow still got more and also didn’t fit into the viral pattern of growth.

>>27014778
I don't think you understand Kobo's and Luxiem's growth, and why anon you replied to were comparing Salome with them.
Debut buff doesn't mean that they only have high numbers only at debut and the next stream, but usually it's includes every streams in the first two weeks.

Salome follows exactly that pattern, the two weeks rule, while Luxiem and Kobo are still growing after >3 months.

This collab with Towa is already Nene's highest CCV in over 5 weeks, not that she's been streaming much lol.

>>27017103
I’ll give Kronii the benefit of the doubt and say a lot of references kind of do need some investment to know and she was probably more of a HoloEN watcher more than anything. I just say this because there are many EN references the JP girls didn’t get (Korone didn’t even know the skeletons were Mori’s fans, for example) so it’s fair. Kronii’s known to be very calm in demeanor while others are known to be a lot more vocal and reactive

Are people rooting against Hololive winning gold that much?

>>27017157
>includes every streams in the first two weeks.
Usually first week actually and with each stream declining. Salome was inclining from already absurd numbers, which was the unusual part, but she's normalizing now just like 95% of vtubers before her. It just took longer than usual.

FINALLY KANATA

>>27017219
>people

>>27015585
5chan will be on meltdown if Kobo beat both of them to 1M.

>>27017219
i don't even give a shit if we lose by like 1, it will never erase that month they lost 28-2

>>27017135
Both of them are too tired to do it now

>>27016623
>views/time
>hours watched/time
No, I am talking about "Watch Time", YouTube's actually valuable internal metric along with Average Percentage Viewed, which tracks how much of a video is watched by the audience. People post the charts, but very few people take it seriously beyond looking at the "stream time" and be impressed by outlier holos that stream too much or too little.

i was expecting higher number from that "gold potential"

>>27017157
Kobo and Luxiem didn't maintain their debut numbers for 2 weeks.

Kobo went:
>Debut: 46k
>Post Debut Zatsu: 14.5k
>Valorant: 11k
>Raft 5.5k
>Spooky Night: 4.8k
>Karaoke: 6.7k

Please explain how this is in any way like Salome maintaining her debut 90k for 8 streams straight?

>>27017255
Can’t be worse than Gura logging every JP