/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

OP here, please ignore schizos, tribalists, and dramafags. About Mine's doxer, someone posted this (https://twitter.com/diecast021/status/1540338148030693377)) last thread. Might be true, or not, but the nun is definitely Serena Shinju. Please tell more if you know.

Are we doing this thread every 2 days?

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA.

Ooooooo 4chan gods, i pray to thou. Please let this thread be free from any schizos.

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA, AMEN.

>>26801141
every wed and sat

Serious question here, why are crab mentality are so prevalent among exIDs and why their fans are so batshit crazy, not only they denied this fact, they also put their oshis on hostage from expanding their horizons?

I love my Jaksel girls

it's already saturday... time fly so fast

>>26801649
any example of this crab mentality? i know most of them enjoy being in their comfort zone but i never saw them having any crab mentality

>>26800590
woah fresh from vt

https://youtu.be/8fLie0tmhcA

First cover from Kobo. The name of the mixer and arranger is really interesting kek
>Bpk. Sutirto

>>26802761
It's a new mixer, probably her relatives

>>26802997
It's her real dad, the musical family rrats lives on!!

>>26801141
Every Wednesday and Saturday noon, although depending on things, the thread could reach 300 replies in either a night or 3 days. Last thread didn't even reach 300 replies, a shame.

>>26801241
Speaking of wed and sat.
===TIMNAS WACANAPOSTING===
>Interested in helping /warkop/ to join vtl3? Join /vt/league ruangguru and learn new things like tactics, modelling and many more!
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_3
>With no other suggestions in the last few threads, our ball, anthem and victory anthem are now finalized.
>Our Ball
Kobo Slime
>Our Anthem
Korone X holoID folksong medley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgICkQmRolA
>Our victory anthem
Janji - Projekt Genesis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce87eFO2XE4

Roster recommendations are still open until next wed's thread
>Why did they flop? (NijiID flop posting) {GK}
>We holoID fans (Our Lord Soo Min Park of holoID)
>Guess their religion (Tebak agama vtuber)
>Huhihuhihu (Epel)
>Adudu Iofifteeen
>Piggy bank thief (holoIDdorm)
>Harem Master (Andi Adinata)
>Hana was right (/vt/'s infamous e-girl bait)
>Gluk gluk water (Zen's head on horse body)
>Kobo Tempest
>Loli Miti
>Get Blocked (Ipochan)
>Ucagi (Nekoyama Sena)
>Humbala-Humbala (Anti-Schizo Ritualposting)
>ANJG LU KANNA (Kanna Tamachi)
>Penghuni rumah nanas (Yume reference)
>Unitychad (MuseID-Daem)
>Om2 Pos Ronda (Minerva Rosaline)
>Lontenya Penilep Bansos (Snowdrop & their corrupt owner)
>Maya Putri's Zombie
>Dolphino (Chloe reference)
>Si Otan (Treerat reference)
>Raja Mexico, El Salvadore Tequila El Kontole
(Windah, thread meta)

>Goalhorn reccomendations are also open until next wed's thread with pemilu planned at the earliest, next sat's thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70wgvOXtb98
https://youtu.be/564kyK7xsc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4CMdzicvKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eorcYTRWskQ
https://youtu.be/5iL2d-0CNPo
https://youtu.be/oFkSQPJeAQE
https://youtu.be/0PK79P8JDWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f8rC4cXKqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWpJaHut7DE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZaW_bq6wxo&t=28s
https://youtu.be/BM6dXhJh8g4

>Chants recommendations are open until around September
>Jedag Jedug Vtuber Toxic https://youtu.be/cyMUSpLV32E
>Kobo Tempest introduction
https://youtu.be/c5xn9idw4wg
>Early Moona songs
https://youtu.be/N_1xVr7wp6Q
https://youtu.be/4-wpqxD7Az8
>Kobo Edgelord
https://youtu.be/YDBLs_0SnPQ

The popularity of Kobo proves that in ID, vtubers doesn't have to pander to the weebs, that normal viewers are okay with watching anime avatar streaming. This in contrast with what Yagoo said that the market for vtubers are the anime fans throughout the world, that's not the case in Indonesia. Making contents tailored to weebs might be a debuff for ID vtubers because normies doesn't mind watching vtubers as long as the contents are relatable.

IMO, ID vtubers should be detaching themselves from the concept that vtubers = weeb contents. They should create a distinctive sub culture that branching out from the Japanese vtubers culture, a vtubers sub culture that's only unique within the ID scene. Meaning that the vtubers culture should be more localized, that they're Japanese culture in design only (even better if we can create our own distinctive anime style).

I just thought about this when I was binge listening to some Javanese koplo songs. Javanese songs views in Youtube is no joke, a lot of it are having >50M views, some are even >200M, even more than the average Indonesian language songs. I know that urban people prefers listening to ID pop songs from Spotify, but still Javanese songs popularity are no joke. This got me thinking that maybe a vtuber fully pandering to the Javanese could be more popular than the average ID vtubers, if they're at least half as good and talented as Kobo. And they could start a new wave of niche pandering to specific ethnics and cultures.

TL:DR: Kobo should be used as a sign that Indonesian normies are okay with watching vtubers, and ID vtubers should pandering more to normies local audiences instead of trying hard to pander to the weebs like the Japanese vtubers.

>>26802761
>Release it on saturday
>The deadline for hololive top cover ranks is friday
I love my numberfag cunny

>>26805830
>This in contrast with what Yagoo said that the market for vtubers are the anime fans throughout the world
This is also not the case everywhere in the world anon, not just ID. Yagoo just simply get it wrong. Look at salome, a massive amount of her viewers are JP normies. A significant amount of Gura and Calli viewers are also non-weebs, especially when they're on their peak popularity after debut. One of the biggest Minecraft streamer (Ranboo) also use a vtuber model now. The list goes on.

You can even argue that all oldschool big minecraft youtubers (Cpt. Sparklez, Grian, Mumbo, Etho, etc) are kinda a vtuber. They don't use facecam but instead use their minecraft avatar to talk to us (they use 3rd person pov from the front very often).

>>26805830
You want ID Vtubers to be accepted by normies? Ez, just become Millhya 2.0 or Arap 2.0, just like Kobo is Windah 2.0

>>26807561
I kinda get the point for Yagoo, but when Riku took the ID gamble back then why tf, Nijisanji which in JP was more normie friendly than hololive suddenly become an ultra niche boomer weebagency in ID, all these years of headstart yet they misread ID market so wrongly, why's that?

>>26807746
>arap 2.0
Kek, then we got another dramatuber

>>26809420
we already got iofi and ollie here

I've been doing my reps for Rafel Alva. Damn, the more I watch him the more I fell in love with him. I like it when he's singing English songs. He's my benchmark/standard for Holostars EN now.
>>26802761
>Tondemo wonders
Huh interesting choice, maybe she's doing her reps
Anyway her senpai is also covering it
>Polka's cover
https://youtu.be/0DzqJQggP9s

>>26800951
Serena Shinju's circle back then was lowkey infamous for doxxing multiple vtubers or claiming that they know multiple indie vtubers identity.
The "miyukkiko" account used to have the username "enmuyo", did a model reveal as a vtuber and she streamed before. Her channel is probably gone now but back then the voice was exactly the same and some of her loyal simps interacted (up to you if you want to trust me or not)
Now she moved to the account @YakouGao as an ENVTuber to possibly run away from the ID community.
Basically she graduated, reincarnated twice and is now trying to blame other people in the community because her name is bad.

>>26810504 (me)
Regarding the doxxing, someone in her circle doxxed Mine to a streamer who told their VTuber friends.
The same circle was involved with spreading private information on Snowdrop talents long ago to the point where they relessed an official statement
https://twitter.com/snowdropliveid/status/1447877353451896832?s=21&t=NDkwD2dcC4PNhbrkrCMKbA

>>26802501
When the merge got some KRs reincarnated, IDs sticked to niji, rrats said that they don't grad because if any of them grad now, the fandom will rebel to anyc like never before, this is why many thought that nijifags are hindering their livers growth

>>26811035
wtf is that rat? It makes them more of a cult than a 'fanbase'

>>26811035
ZEA and Nara are truly wasted there, just graduate and join holo already, they will atleast get stable income and Nara won't have to resort to Subathon to fix her knees

Kobo haven't streamed prosekai, right? I wonder how good she's

>>26811236
Is there be HoloID 4th gen? Or Yagoo wants to open new branch?

Who the fuck is Sutirto?

>>26807746
>Arap 2.0
Too mentally unstable kek
>Milyhya 2.0
That would be great
>Kobo is Windah 2.0
Naaaah I don't think so. Kobo is Kobo.

>>26811349
They will open next audition after EN3 debuted most likely

>>26811479
Her sugar daddy

>>26800951
>>26810504
The doxxer is probably a kulikomis member
https://twitter.com/Kulikomis/status/1540309582345412608?t=cQcMOIHWZWTboqFURa9SQQ&s=19

>>26811349
idk but if cover willing to do more in ID, I hope they'll do something like mixed-gender INNK here, we have a powerful utaite scene but some of them are never really exposed to their fullest potential

>>26811497
>Kobo is kobo
Many people already called her Windah's daughter though and they often associate her with him

>>26810504
>>26810679
That's toxic
Keep the infos coming, anon
you are doing great for the community
This would help many Indies EN and ID alike

>>26803367
>>26811479
its the first sutrito project but he already doing much better than timothy and redshift. moona please stop hiring timothy, just hire kobo's dad instead

>>26811611
>Windah's daughter
Wrong. She's my daughter
She's me 2.0

>>26811349
Gen 4 will happen. They already see the success of Kobo, it's gonna be stupid if they don't use this opportunity

>>26811695
Fuck off Brando

>>26811598
Yes, "miyukkiko" is a relatively newer member of Kulikomis. Kulikomis isn't the doxxer circle though, which is why they are trying to clear this issue.

>>26811349
With gen 3 boom, im optimist that there's should be next gen for HoloID, just dont make a single debut Vsinger project

Irys has proved it and It's not gonna works especially in niche market here

>>26811734
Well I hope ZEA joins then

>>26811607
I'm an utaitefag and I disagree with this
>mixed-gender INNK
INNK and project hope (EN vsingers) are "failed" projects
They have 0 creative freedom. Look at what they have done to poor Irys. Even Azki now is part of Hololive proper

>>26811763
Do you think a vsinger project would work better for starsID with how some of our most notable male chuubas has musical tendencies like Reynard or Andi? I think a single vsinger debut could be a good test for cover if they want to join our male vtuber scene

>>26811685
Damn... now i have rrats that Kobo's dad is actually professional song mixer that used to handled big project from a famous musician

Or.... It's Judika's music record owns mixer
The mixing is too clean for vchuuba level

>>26811479
he just opened his twitter 4 hours ago kek. definitely someone she knows in RL

>>26811883
Nah that's too shallow if they only debut an single StarsID, Should be released the entire gen

but It would be funny is he's gonna be the only one male in HoloID tho

>>26811817
Feels like the only reason for that are basically
>Women
While on EN for example, Luxiem has a 2nd unit song despite some of them can't sing well, this is also a reflection of the wider music scene weeb or not with fanatism towards males like KPop or western ones like Harry Styles are much more visible than their female counterparts

>>26811908
The second rrat is kinda impossible tho. She accidentally shows her 500k subs anniversary (this cover) around May, while that Judika Duma Family membered her around June

>>26812520
Here ya go my next improved rrats

What if Kobo's dad is actually Judika's mixer ? this also answer to why Judika's Page comes and join her member too

>>26805830
We need Bayu Skak 2.0

>>26812800
Her reaction to Judika's channel admin joining kobolonimbus doesn't make sense.

>>26813951
its all scripted yo. That is why you should do rehearsal before the d-day

>>26810206
I discovered more facts about Rafel
>Rafel is a friend of ElestiaHD a 2.7m YouTuber
>Part of Bapak Kau SMP
>He's a scriptwriter of a Minecraft animation series : Viva Fantasy
https://youtu.be/1wDkxMlO0j8

He's such a bundle of talents

>Viva Fantasy episode 1
https://youtu.be/2OuuDX_0JVk
It's interesting, I wonder why Hololive isn't into this. Maybe it's not a thing in Japan. On the Western side I only know Dream SMP but they didn't make animations like this, theirs are mostly fanmade traditional 2d

>>26811035
>fandom will rebel against anyc
Kek thanks for the laugh anon

>>26815717
Idk anon, seeing Minecraft like that makes me kinda cringe, though I'm sure I've seen Kobo's fanart with that style

>>26812070
No. the reason for their failure is because Cover has complete control over their music. Holomem like Suisei and Moona can direct their own music, what kind of genre and aesthetic they want, etc while Irys and Azki can't. You see irystocrats are complaining about it a lot. Especially for the poor quality English lyrics on Irys' songs.
>Luxiem
I don't think a singing skill is a must to have for success. Their existence alone is the proof. If anything male fans are most honest than female fans.
>Singing skills
Holostars have it and they're not super popular.
I think there is more to it than singing.
Even in vsinger scene, male vsingers are rare and pull abysmal numbers compared to their female counterparts
You can ask around in /vsinger/

>>26816360
>cringe
I understand tho. It's chuuni and poorly acted. Some Holomem are better voice actors though, I think they could pull it off

>>26815717
Hololive's Minecraft is based on Japan community, and they're far behind the EN community. Idk why they haven't use the proximity mod yet despite how it is and every big SMP already use it (i don't watch Dream SMP, but Hermitcraft, Empires, Last Life, etc all use the mod and it's great).

Heck they don't even use the "one player sleep" and still log out to skip the day kek. Sometimes i wish a big MC nerds (actual nerds, not nerd-lite like Moona) join hololive and can smack some sense into them.

>>26816606 (me)
>Idk why they haven't use the proximity mod yet despite how it is
*despite how good it is

hololive server with prox mod would be glorious

>>26816656
>mod
I think It's the permission and copyright autism that hinders them

>>26816772
they already use a bunch of mod and shaders
and i know who the maker of the prox mod and one player sleep is, they definitely would allow them to use it
it's not the perm, they just don't know it exist

>>26811479
me, AMA

>>26816885
All of those broken english pekora image wouldn't exist if there was a proximity mod
The thing is why bother to install a mod where you talk to other when they already known each other they can just hop in to discord
i doubt they will use that unless it's for certain event

>>26817439
What is your usual go-to breakfast?

>>26817439
gudeg and nasi liwet

>>26817903
fuck, meant to reply >>26817802

>>26810504
don't forget her other account @quliavtuber

>>26817635
>All of those broken english pekora image wouldn't exist if there was a proximity mod
Do you know what "proximity" mean anon? It has a range, and if someone are outside the range you still need to type in chat.

>The thing is why bother to install a mod where you talk to other when they already known each other they can just hop in to discord
Anon, all those SMP i mentioned before also consist of people that already know each other....
They can (and already did) use discord to talk to each other. But they all still use the mod because it's so good. There are so many great moments that only possible because of the Mods. You only think like this because you never watch it anon.

Oh, and before you bring some people like Aqua who doesn't like talking to random people so suddenly, then you can still mute / deafen to get the classic MC experience.

>>26811035
OP is probably gonna be mad at me but you seem genuine so here I go.
KR situation is different because they had internal management problems. Graduating isn't always a net positive career move anyway.
To be fair, everything does look like crab mentality if your measure of success is entirely defined by numbers and money.

But for real though, everytime someone mentions NijiID crab mentality it's always accompanied by the wildest threadwatcher rrats imaginable:
>Crab mentality is when talents don't graduate because if they do fans will be mad at corpo
>The main circle didn't like Mika/Bobon/Siska because they have bigger numbers.
>Something something Hanamaki self sabotage, ignoring the HoloEN tsunami and change of clipper markets at the time.
Heck /vt/ can't even decide whether they like Hana's dad or not, whether having him on the stream or not on the stream is the self sabotage. Which one is it retards? Pick one!

Nobody here understands shit, they just pretend they know everything to seem cool on a funni mongolian basket weaving board. (I'm aware that includes myself.)
It's as if you guys latch on to opinions imported from the /vt/ hivemind and try to fart out justifications out of thin air, instead of trying to form an original thought and opinion through your own observations and experiences.

Here's some news
https://mobile.twitter.com/CIROagency/status/1540231324333928454
An indie agency just closed

damn given some advice, got attacked instead

>>26819917
i disagree with the attack, but that's some dumb advice

>>26819805
>karena adanya berbagai permasalahan pada manajemen yang membuat kami harus memutuskan untu memberhentikan layanan kegiatan agensi ciro
rrats, anyone?

>>26819917
>Makasih akasupa-nya 'username'
>Read the message
>React to the message
Celebrating akasupa for over a minute is ruining the stream immersion

>>26811349
>>26811549
>>26811734
>>26811763
Eh not really, according to Yagoo latest interview he implies that there are no new auditions in the near future. Maybe for next year

>>26818595
Anon, those rrats are also being agreed upon by kikebookers so it's not like everything especially when it comes to ID are something that comes out from our funni mongolian basket weaving board

>>26819917
Dumb advice it ruins the atmosphere of the stream unless it's donation reading stream

>>26820569
no rrat just no money

>>26820817
proof ? SS ?

There's less than 30 of you. Can't you lessers make a SEA4chan or jsut start a facebook messenger group chat instead of posting to an ENGLISH board?

>>26801174
Remember this kek

>>26820569
KPK strike again

>>26821508
https://www.4gamer.net/games/628/G062811/20220418043/index_2.html

>>26821640
OP here; We have reached 100 IPs before. We don't break the rules and we speak English 95% of the time. We have existed for nearly 2 months. I wish I could throw your white ass to Aceh and let them stone you for being a dumbfuck bule. Enjoy your (You), goblok.
>>26818595
I'm not that sensitive. After all, I share the same opinion as you. People have no idea about NijiID because we are in a Hololive board, kek. It's idiotic to think that NijiID "failed" because of one or two factors involving the livers. It's bigger than just "Hana shot herself in the foot".

>>26821868
Thanks anon, i'm happy that my ritual always worked. The reaction to Zen schizos on last thread was so much better than the previous one when i'm late kek.

>>26808962
they are way too ahead of the time lol
back then vtuber is still a very weeb culture, let alone streaming culture. I guess also thanks to the pandemic that vtuber grown significantly here
although I think NijiID sparked the rise of streaming-style vtubers over here. before them vtubers are still mostly VOD oriented.

>>26824571
>they are way too ahead of the time lol
I wonder how too ahead they were, or like when they can restart ID again to reap what they sow, it really could be that ID wasn't ready for niji or it's just that what anycolor think suits for ID wasn't really a match after all

>>26824571
>>26808962
Streaming (especially on youtube) is just not really a big thing yet at that time. Indonesian streaming scene started by platform like Nimo who paid big youtubers to stream on their platform. When the contract end they come back to youtube and start streaming there too since they already learned about streaming and how enjoyable / profittable it can be. Even to this day a lot of ID's streamers are streaming on other platform (altho the recent thing happening with Nimo might brings a lot of them to youtube).

Maya Putri already proved that people doesn't care if you're an anime avatars as long as you're entertaining. So vtuber is not really a weeb culture. ID market, especially in youtube, is just not ready for streamers, and it doesn't help that none of NijiID are strong enough to build streaming culture in youtube.

>>26825451
You can even say that a VTuber doesn't have to do livestreams. Of course, livestreaming has its strength: parasocial relationship and attachment to both parties involved. But, videos are a perfect hook for new viewers. It's a low-cost investment for them, either in time, energy, and internet data.

>>26826232
Making content like that sometimes more exhausting than livestreams itself though.

>>26822468
>English
>aceh
>bule
>goblok
kill yourself

>>26826703
>This anon has really low reading skills

>>26826703
What even is your point.

this thread is chill for now and most people aren't blaming us for shitting up other thread or the catalog like /#/ anyway, why bother?
>>26821048
having fun at the catalog, anon?

>>26827478
Ah, my hunch of him being a bule dumbfuck is confirmed. I'd like to thank all of you for being good anons and especially to not breach containment.

>>26826948
>>26827419
>>26827478
thanks for the (you)s retards

>>26828324
You're very welcome

I did a survey about male chuubas on the catalogue starting from the UAE. The flip one was not deleted by jannies for 3 days and had 150 posters while the others were left till it got archieved or pruned. So yeah /vt/ had a lot of SEAs.

>>26829820
Anon, SEA is the biggest market outside of Japan, so of course SEA will flood this board

>>26830294
In general
SEA is fourth or fifth
Second is English or NA
Third is china

Lemao

I WILL GROOM MY OSHI. WATCH ME

>>26832106
>English or NA
This is so stupid, he can't even differentiate language and region.

>>26835882
Does indochuubas can even be groomed?

>>26826612
Man I remember seeing a oldfag fleshtuber I liked stopped content creation on YT so he can chillax more as twitch streamer, creating VOD ideas and turning them into reality does in fact creates more burden than streaming ngl

>>26839444
Dunno but it's true that SEA is not second. There are lots of 5 digits Indies on twitch. Most of their audience are from North America

>>26825272
>they can restart ID
You can be their investor and make it into reality, anon

>>26822318
I can't find it

>>26842882
Inshaallah anon, who really knows what'll happen to our ever inclining scene after this but I do think it's a pity if anycolor really just gave up without a worthy fight for our market

>>26811883
>Stars ID
An anon in catalog pointed out the possibility of male Hololive EN and ID.
Beside, Holostars members themselves are negative toward the possibility of new members of Holostars. Uproar is part of Holostars Group but not Holostars itself. Yes, I know it's confusing. I don't think it's a good strategy for cultivating the Holostars brand name.
Also anon, let's not too far ahead. Because, there hasn't been a hiring call for maleID branch manager unlike EN.
I also think the Hololive brand is a better than Holostars.
But if one day they do make an ID branch, I think the Hololive brand is more helpful than Holostars.
I'm very conflicted about this since I like the "cute girls doing cute things" flair of Hololive and I don't want HoloID to be isolated from HoloJP just because it has males.
>Picrel is another Holostars, sports-related virtual project

bumperino

I miss moona already

Good morn-
This thread is so dead, I might as well blogposting about Andi, Kururu and Ravel

>>26852184
dew it

>>26846572
If holoEN won't be segregated by JPs over males with their current audition, a hypothetical ID won't be too
>>26816414
For JP and EN? Sure but this is ID we're talking about where if anything it's their flexibility that helped holoID to be this far and also we here probably has more notable male vsingers than female, especially now with Hibiki graduated, and Aoi Sora hardly visible atm

>>26846572
>there hasn't been a hiring call for maleID branch manager unlike EN
if they really put them into hololive brand instead of a separate holostarts brand then they don't need it.

>>26855479
It'll be a shock for sure if suddenly holoID has male debuts from EN auditions

What do you think of male collabs, /warkop/ anons? I'm okay with it and I don't think it's weird or whatever. It's normal in the ID indie sphere and I'm used to it.
>CAPTCHA: 2WWWW

>>26856719
What's more likely is Indo male debuting as StarsEN
>>26858952
I'm okay with collab in general (male/female, doesn't matter). What matter is the frequency, if say your entire career is based on collabing other vtubers, then fuck off, you don't even entertaining by yourself

>>26859059
I feel like I'm on the opposite of the spectrum, I prefer those with collabs as it's strong point since I don't really care about solo streams, but then again that is also comes from my preferences in fleshtubers before I know vtubers

>>26858952
The real question should be what's wrong with male collab? why vt hates it? I can understand if the vtuber who did the collab doing gfe and you get jealous because of your "parasocial relationship", but what if the vtuber itself is just a normal streamer? what's more ironic is people who develop parasocial relationships with anime girls usually have a problem with kpoper who also have parasocial relationship with their kpop bias.

>>26858952
As long as both parties having fun and the games they played is up to my taste then sure.

>>26859059
>if say your entire career is based on collabing other vtubers, then fuck off, you don't even entertaining by yourself
i disagree anon. some people are just really entertaining when they talk and play with their friends. there are a lot of cases where someone who are boring solos becomes much more entertaining in collabs. the problem is if you only rely on your collab partner while adding nothing to the entertainment.

>>26860804
1. shitposter that never hates male collabs in the first place
2. concernfag numberniggers that are afraid their oshi would lost their audience
3. actual schizo

>>26862289 (me)
most of the time it was (1) or (2). (1) was quite unique to anonymous board like 4chan, while you can find (2) everywhere. it's very often in youtube comments when someone talk about male collabs. "i don't mind, but the idol culture.... she will lost her fans" something like that.

(3) is really rare for non GFE chubas, but they exist. for example that 22 (i think? forgot the name) anon on /ehe/.

>>26822318
Where ??

>>26853671
No
Gak jadi ah udah rame lagi
>>26858952
I'm fine but please don't do impromptu collab, to respect the unicorns and yumejos
>Indo male debuting as StarsEN
From the infos I gathered, Cover never hire an ESL person for its English branch unlike Niji
>>26861898
>there are a lot of cases where someone who are boring solos becomes much more entertaining in collabs.
Yeah I agree with this anon. picrel is the example. Cowok ganteng kalem idaman jadi weirdo bangke wkwkwk yah cocok lah sama rambutnya yang aneh

Oops
>>26863099
>>26859059

>>26863099
Kiara is ESL tho

dumb schizo thread

>>26863099
>I'm fine but please don't do impromptu collab, to respect the unicorns and yumejos
Reminds me of that time /nijiEN/ went to shit over impropmptu offcollab rumao
>>26860804
>why vt hates it?
Historically speaking it could be because for a lot of ENfags, they come from holoJP with their strong idolculture and suddenly they expected the same for other corpos or even other holobranches even tho cover always had different concepts for EN or ID, this is true even within SEA bcuz you can see top SG,PH,VN or TH corpos are girls only because holo is their inspiration while we here are accustomized with mixed-gender collabs because our early scene was molded by NijiID and MAHA5 with Andi even being our no1 chuuba pre-holoID, even now that legacy is still very prevalent with only foreign funded holoID and Alterly has a full-girls lineup while localcorpos has mixed gender from the start

>>26862682
That 22 has brain damage. Dude claiming to be "Kobo Gachi Squad" or something like that. But only can afford 15.000 dono (bare minimum) per stream

>>26863482
OMG how do I forgot about the fact that she speaks German?
>>26863968
>Reminds me of that time /nijiEN/ went to shit over impropmptu offcollab rumao
While the meltdown is fun for us to watch, I bet it wasn't fun for the talents involved.
Even in a normal situation, healthy, sane IRL boyfriend should not be that over jealous.
My friend had a boyfriend like that, he wasn't allowed her to even hang out with us her FEMALE friends. Dude is a legit psycho. I heard it's a sign of abusive boyfriend/girlfriend.

>>26864590
*Wouldn't allow her

>>26863968
So, our community is more receptive towards collabs regardless of genders, it seems. And I believe most new VTubers viewers are also fine with it?

>>26864977
it's okayish as long as it's not anituber

Anya is singing high tide wdyt?
https://youtu.be/jP0MrpXIvaI

I have nothing against GFE and BFE, cuz I'm also enjoying it (I yume'd hard at my oshis but I know the boundaries). I only have a problem with it when some people are blurring their delusions with reality and becoming psychos. BFE and GFE are just fanservice role-play, nothing more than that.

>>26865667
it's nice... high tide without falsetto just hit different for me

>>26860804
talking about gfe, is there any ID chubba who does GFE? all i know is iofi really like to bait this kind of content but i dont know if she has actual gatchikoi or not. other than her i know mythi and moona also do pseudo-gfe or what i love to call fze(friendzone experience) to their viewer. i dont recall any nijis/maha doing it. so maybe if there are indies who love does gfe i want to know hows id market for gfe/bfe chubba

>>26843038
>>26862873

>>26866425
Chloe? But she's more to psuedogfe according to your definition I guess. I think is still a unexplored market for id vtuber, we know how much bigo streamer can get money from doing gfe there. Or maybe id's gatchi doesn't have any interest to 2d girlfriend.

>>26811035
anon im pretty sure you misunderstood something at some point.
as one of the ones who stated a similar sentiment to what youre claiming, what i meant was to explain why anycolor couldnt and wouldnt graduate any exID members so they merged them instead, cause if they did people would become upset and create distrust among all nijisanji fans and livers since if management were willing to graduate a whole branch of 19 people as that would make everyone worry for their jobs.
however we dont live in that timeline where the worst outcome happened so the point barely matter now.
also the KR situation is not comparable to ID's, KRs always been a mess so them being merged was given to happen as it was a known secret KR staff were awful.

>>26867022
im actually curious does indo have a birthrate problem or gender unbalance like japan and china respectively have?
i havent really seen anything to indicate single women are a rare commodity in indo like it is in the west, japan or china.
though i wasnt even familar with indo in general until i got into niji id so ive got a really limited view.

>>26866425
>i know mythi and moona also do pseudo-gfe or what i love to call fze(friendzone experience)
You summed up Miti perfectly, she's able to act as a girlfriend, a friend, or a close friend. And I don't think I find an actual ID GFE VTuber yet.

>>26867554
I don't think it's related to demographics at all, I believe this is more of a cultural issue especially how ID stream culture was built till now

>>26867554
Nah, it's pretty easy to get married in Indonesia, some of my gen z friends already have 2-3 kids and they haven't reach 30s yet. Even back when I'm still in high school the ratio of male and female are 1:3, so it's pretty easy to find a girlfriend. That's probably why gfe doesn't really popular in Indonesia especially if you are goodlooking or at least know how to talk to girl.

>>26867554
>does indo have a birthrate problem or gender unbalance like japan and china respectively have?
No and no
There are more males, I'll say the ratio is pretty balanced
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1258097/indonesia-share-of-population-by-gender/
Average age of married women in Indonesia in 2017 is 22 years old

>>26870306
According to this alone I can guess, indonesian "gachikoi" are mostly young men/boys and they don't have that much money. Unlike in Japan when gachikois are mostly older working men.

>>26866447
>That's kind of tailored to the needs of the fans. Even if you increase it mischievously... I think so.

not mentioning any auditions

HoloEn audition is forever open.
HoloID on the other hand....

>>26870874
with the popularity of ID3 and ID1 performance at holofest, yagoo will open the 4th gen audition in the future.

>>26871315
HoloEN gen3 is still questionable they will not announced HoloID gen4 before HoloEN gen3
I mean debuting more gen is good but they are not nijisanji who likes to flood the market

Rafel singing welcome to wonderland. Kururu is beautiful and sensual. Meanwhile rafel beautiful and pure. An angel chuuba that actually sounds angelic. I prefer this over the original kek
I literally haven't found a voice anywhere near this soft in Western indie and corpo scene. It's mind-blowing honestly.
https://youtu.be/TT7sYV3FCCY?t=106

>>26810504
>>26810679
Could you tell us more about Serena's circle? Who are they? What's their goal?

>>26819917
>Posting botfess tweet
Of course he got attacked, the whole place filled with ironical fujos and kpops

>>26864554
The fuck does gachi squad means?

>>26872072
Pre-pubescent boys

>>26866447
You're reaching

I now kinda understand why NijiID is not popular

>>26871878
People who are known doxxers in her circle are Ryle Hirano, Renka, and Myuasui. One of my sources say myu attempted to dox Mythia a while ago or atleast went around telling people Miti's real name.
They probably just get a thrill from knowing VTuber identities, or they doxx to gain trust like "Hey I know this agency VTuber, you should trust me"

>>26872298
why?

>>26872374
>Ryle Hirano
Whattt???? I thought he's the doxxed, well that's certainly new for me

>>26870780
>>26866447
>Harada: How many talents do you belong to now?
>Tanigo:There are 68 people in total all over the world. However, the groups are divided by gender, and they are also divided by region.
>Harada: Do you plan to increase the number in the future?
>Tanigo: It feels like it meets the needs of fans. I think that even if I increase it unnecessarily ...
>Harada: Is that so? I thought that I would rather increase the number to 100 or 200. The more talents there are, the more fans will be interested in it. In the end, it will be something like "800 people in all!"
>Tanigo: That may be different from the game. It depends on the talent's life, and the current idea is that it is not enough to simply increase the number.

>>26872374
>Serena shinju
>Ryle Hirano
>Renka
>Myuasui
>Yakougao
Anyone else? Keep the names coming

>>26871985
Nice, dungeon meshi. One of my top ten manga. It's really underrated in ID and barely discussed to in the west.

>>26872641
Make me regret defending their fans at some point
>why?
Maybe next thread

>>26873274
You need 3 days? How many essay that you want to put anyway.

>>26872904
>>26743752
>Harada: How many talents do you have in your company now?
>Tanigo: We have a total of 68 talents worldwide. We have separate groups for men and women, and also for each region.
>Harada: Do you plan to increase the number in the future?
>Tanigo: That will depend on the needs of the fans. I don't think we should just go ahead and add more at .......
>Harada: Is that so? I had thought that the number of fans would increase to 100 or 200. The more talent we have, the more fans will be interested. Eventually, I thought it would be something like "800 people in total! I thought it would be something like "800 people in total!
>Tanigo: That may be the difference from a game. The talent's lives are at stake, and it is not simply a matter of increasing the number.

>>26872904
>>26873333
It really make sense if you think about it, EN wise I think it's a public secret about what happened with council, while in ID and maybe JP too you got this issue with how to keep some of your senpais growing as good as their new debuts

>>26873333
That sounds like nothing's changed. They already slowed down and "depends on the needs pf the fans" since 2021. IMO it actually supported the possibility of ID4 since it's clear there's a bigger demand now. They probably wont rush it tho, maybe after ID2 get their 3D.

I'm guessing May-June next year debut, maybe audition in October.

>>26873681
>EN wise I think it's a public secret about what happened with council
What happen? is this has something to do with omega?

>>26873885
nta
Cannibalizing myth audience/not bringing new fans, maybe

>>26873681
Council is fine i think (except Sana kek), despite what /#/ said they're more or less performed similar with Unsharked Myth. Gura is just a different beast, so does Pekora and Kobo in their respective branch. Expecting every branch to have powerful chuba like them is just unrealistic imo.

Meanwhile, Irys is indeed a failure kek. She supposed to be a Vsinger.

>while in ID and maybe JP too you got this issue with how to keep some of your senpais growing as good as their new debuts
ID1 & 2 still doing fine and some even inclined after ID3 debut, so it's still healthy. I remember when ID fight the ender dragon, people expecting disgusting numbers from the overlaps but everyones actually get great ccv despite Kobo getting 10k+ and Moona with 7k+.

>>26873333
Makes sense because their business isn't just streamer they also have like holoALT and other thing
Now imagine if there is like 100 or 200 vtuber under hololive brand they will need to bring all of them to their other projects.
Hololive isn't nijisanji in hololive everyone gets a piece of the pie even the lower performed one, where in nijisanji you need to be the top or mid level to get it.

>>26874138
In irys case, I think it was a management fault. She was left stranded. no 2nd outfit, no 3D, nothing.

>>26872760
Huh... where did you hear this?
The last thing he did before leaving the community is share this document he made explaining his past drama within the cosplay community to VTubers, and it literally had his real name in it

>>26872374
>One of my sources say myu attempted to dox Mythia a while ago or atleast went around telling people Miti's real name
Jesus fucking Christ, that's fucked up. I'd suggest you to send screenshots to solidify your claims. I don't want to doubt you, but it would be nice to have an actual case to talk about, not mere rumours.

>>26874579
Yeah, definitely. Altho i don't think 2nd outfit is important for her as a vsinger, but no 3d and no concert is weird for a vsinger.

I honestly don't mind if cover want to make "ID Vsinger". We have a lot of great singer, male and female. Just commit to it regardless of the results. Don't backtracked barely a couple month after debut like irys just because you're more famous as a streamer instead of a singer kek. Atleast commit to 1 year focus mostly as a singer, if they failed then you can Azki-ed them.

>>26875002
One of my circlejerk is close to Ryle's so that circlejerk knew his pov more than the opposite

Hana Macchia said on stream that if into reality reaches 2 million before the end of June then she will make an original song.

As a reminder, into reality is here: https://youtu.be/BR-aIzE3QI0

https://youtu.be/KoAHG0vXyRk
ID corpo Among Us collab (Re:Memories, Alterly, Metanoia). Link above is Karissa's POV.

you guys play holocure?

>>26880027
i forgot how good into:reality is (except for the ""'motivational""' part), i like it better than id:entity

>>26882205
the motivational part is cringe but good anon

i personally like both a lot (and Hi-15 too) the vibes are different so it's hard to compare. also it's funny how the vibes fit both branch's fate kek

>>26873069
@SteiaStar is renka reincarnation
you can tell by their interaction in Yakugao twitch stream.

>>26881995
Played it for a while. It's a fun time sink

>>26880027
I'd imagine a Hana orisong would be like this https://youtu.be/b82QWqhDwmc

>>26815395
There is no point him joining membership if it's all scripted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbcCOQ11HUU
>CAPTCHA: VTGRR

>bump

>latenight
>no bumps
>page10
Is... Is it my time to shill?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ6ZAFwujss

I didn't know Miti is live rn, also her l2d sleep face is cute https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDFYdvxmTts

>>26896084
ehe~

>>26874579
It's weird how rn it's Mori who showcased herself as the true vsinger of EN with how insane her career leap is now

>>26885191
Its written on the script yo

>>26880027
please help us gang!

>>26904015
Sure thing, but please don't do it excessively. The last thing I want to see here is people calling you Nijibeggars.

>>26880027
>25k views in 4 days
Yeah I'm not fancying your chances

sundul gan

>>26893236
Miti wa, kyou mo kawaii~

https://youtu.be/sdAs_G2gg4E
What the hell is this clip, jej. Off dulu, mau mandi wajib.

>>26915456
https://youtu.be/_Thi_xaXiK4?t=9471
Also, Airi's pantsu, timestamped for your convenience.

>>26915456
asking for pantsu color is passe, this is the real deal

https://twitter.com/vestiazeta/status/1541290225183629312
Is the entire holoID going to meet up tomorrow?

>>26926006
according to kaela tweet yes, i hope we got some offcolab stream too

>>26875002
qrd or docs please
literally everyone i asked have diffrent takes on this so i guess the rumour have gone weird or somebody is lying

/warkop/bros we're inclining!

>>26928623
kek

>>26928623
OH SHIT
Om Mobi Vtuber when?

>>26929179
kek, it's not that impossible considering he already hide his face

>>26928623
Om-om watching Kobo? Unsurprising.

>>26929609
That is the target demographic

>>26929686
A fellow cultured Ojisan. Hiragi is in danger now.

The board are now busy with Mori drama

Kobobros.. we're taking over...

>>26930862
Nice, good job brotha

>>26930862
>She keeps inclining even during hiatus

Another Kobo appearance

Kulikomis statement on le doxing conflict: https://twitter.com/Kulikomis/status/1541078685004214276

>>26930862
>>26928623
I legit believing at this point that Kobo is going to surpass Gura. Yagoo and M chan awakened the sleeping giant market by recruited this kid.

>>26935918
>Gura
Bagaimana menurut agan2 sekalian tentang possible yab yang sedang ramai dibicarakan oleh orang2 EN di trit2 sebelah?

>>26936617
Hell if I care, I'm watching Miti right now. But it sounds dumb, to be honest.

>>26936988
Just checked the drama
>Mori is retard
>dramafag is more retard
well IDC to be honest

>>26937564
Yeah me neither but fuck whoever that guy who posted FULL HOLOID IRL FACES except Anya, Kobo and Zeta.
Thank God jannies are doing their work.
If this is deadbeats making deflection thread, fuck them, hope Mori is fucking terminated.

Huh. So, Miti continued her donothon and it coincided with this tweet gaining the attention of ID VTuber community: https://twitter.com/akira_k4zuki/status/1540571641402470402
TL;DR, a pre-debut VTuber made a thread about how subathon is misunderstood by some and therefore, some are doing it wrong. People debated about what subathon means and the pre-debut VTuber got this DM:
https://twitter.com/akira_k4zuki/status/1540875147380686849

>>26930862
why is there a guy just casually holding a rifle ?

>>26936617

>>26938993
These Ttuber are source for drama

>>26939919
Their concern is not fully wrong, but somehow, it turned into a micro-drama. Maybe that's just the issue of small VTubers being clueless on PR.

>>26939919
They usually make drama to get some attention before their debut, it's not the first time shit like this happen, even tho what he said is not wrong the dm guy also right he should focus more to his debut before taking about anybody else.

>>26939104
because nature is finally healing after 2 years of non-irl events. Those are the types that you will find in any school/college cultural event
>military freak with ops gear and fake guns
>someone that cosplay as masked DJ (Marsmello is pictured)
>dude that keeps his motorcycle helmet the whole show
>someone being carried on another's shoulder
>female anime cosplayer
>panitia sok asik in the crowd
>people wearing ethnic accessories (blankon / iket kepala)
it's all there in the fb vid, but linking it here just makes 4chan throw a spam tantrum. sight like this are actually kinda nostalgic lmao

>>26936617
Bodo Amat
>>26942118
It really start to look like the EN vtubing scene

>>26935918
At this current rate there's no way kobo can surpass gura, kobo fanbase is still limited to "wibu normie" she need more work if she want to get the absolute normie market.

>>26942969
i went to a weeb event a while ago, and it indeed feels nostalgic. what surprises me is the amount of younger kids i saw in the event. i'm talking about actual SD kids with their parents/siblings and more SMP kids.

>>26943267
Give it some time, she just started her career, 3 months in. Windah didn't instantly gaining 7M subscibers within his first year.
Do note that ID market is different with EN and JP.

>>26943651
>ID market is different with EN and JP.
This is true. Did you know that up to this day there are still some rural Indonesian uploading Harlem Shake videos?
We don't expect ID vtubers to blow up like Gura or Salome, but once they're gaining momentum, they will grow until who knows when.

>>26934074
kuli komis already throwing statements, yet still no proof from those who joined the conflict

>>26943267
>>26943651
>>26944005
Kobo will gain momentum when she reaches 1 million subscribers. Indonesian is numberfag by nature, when they (or we) see big numbers, they go "oh shit, this must be great".
Kobo also said that she'll sing Indo song when she is close to 1 million subscribers, so she'll definitely gain momentum again

>>26937564
Out of the loop, what's the drama about?

>>26948022
From my understanding
>gura is renting an air bnb house
>mori come
>she invites her sister
>her sister brought a bunch of people
>partying hard
>gura isn't comfortable
>decided to stay in her room
>then mori streams in the next room
>mori talks about it
>chaos ensues

https://youtu.be/4-aiEvcn_64
Miti karaoke!

>>26872374
Bro, Renka is Ninomiya Sho from Snowdrop ID now. I think their circle now is inside Snowdrop.

>>26871878
They are basically inside Snowdrop ID now, especially Renka ( Ninomiya Sho ). Beware if you are Indie.

>>26945403
>posting on new acc not her past acc
>not apologetic at all nor putting out any statement
>hurr memory goldfish
yeah well

https://twitter.com/miyukkiko/status/1541335922825801729

>>26950814
>Beware if you are Indie
fuck me. can someone please do an infodump about them and i don't know, post them somewhere?

>>26951373
Some of anon here know some of them.
Two from that circle are famous lesbian cosplayers.

>>26951454
i know those twos, are they doxxers too?

>>26951509
I don't know but i can make sure someone from their circle, especially Sho is a doxxer.

>>26950814
it's obv not him , voice way diffrent
https://www.twitch.tv/yakougao/clip/ApatheticCalmHawkFUNgineer-GgjT8geSsdqVTCCy

>>26951983
>https://www.twitch.tv/yakougao/clip/ApatheticCalmHawkFUNgineer-GgjT8geSsdqVTCCy
I think he is using voice changer. His APEX account basically same.

>>26952212
No anon, it's voicemeeter. He just change his pitch and change how he speak.

>>26952212
even if he is using changer sho's accent are way off from Renka/Steia. You can still find Renka's clip on YT

>>26952544 (me)
Even though there is a possibility of them being the same person, without proper evidence it would just point fingers to Sho that would cause misunderstanding if this turns out to be false information.

>>26951576
I have never heard anything about Sho doxxing so QRD please.

>>26950814
dude serena's circle literally doxxed snowdrop id. what the fuck makes you think he's renka

>>26950814
Ryle doxxed the Snowdrop talents to gain an indie VTuber's trust. Ryle and Renka were in one circle. Snowdrop ID knows about this whole case, so what makes you think Renka would get into Snowdrop??

>>26954372 (me)
Sho is also clearly not even Indonesian, during his debut he specified that he's still learning. He also has a somewhat malaysian or singaporean accent.
Here's a better clip of Renka's voice and how he speaks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V_1pwveBl8

>>26954372
So many evidence that he is Renka. Source: trust me. Welp, are you new? we was discuss about Sho long time ago in warkop,

I don't usually watch IDs but I have to say Xia is cute and has some pretty great taste in games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iu6JbL3wCA

>>26955464
should've played the ps3 version

>>26955416
yeah renka totally disappeared for a year and came back with a malay accent. if you hate snowdrop, don't try to pin the blame on them. their talents were victims here.

>>26938993
and he's absolutely right, most of the replies gets too defensive kek

>>26954372
I think this is a rrat. Because i got from Virtunix insider and get the chat evidence that indie vtuber is the one who give dox information to Ryle first. He just reply her information. Ryle was terminated for damage control.

>>26955464
i respect xia a lot.
though im sad that shes got a sex design but doesnt want to be lewded because of her own history.
i dont know what happened to her fyi, just vague implications.

For the love of God, share the PROOFS regarding the doxing circle. A screenshot, a post, a link, whatever that could proof your point, share it. I have no qualms with rrat-peddling, but it gets annoying when all you posts are "I heard..." or "I think...". For starter, someone listed people inside Serena's doxer circle. Is there any chat/talks that indicates them doxing someone?

>>26954372
This rrat was died long time ago.

>>26954372
Is this rumor was Snowdrop version? Because Virtunix version is different. It was because Ryle spread document with his irl information. About that doxxed thing, from chat evidence it was that indie vtuber (Kurohimeluna) who spread it to their talent first (Ryle).

>>26956388
Yeah, some people forgot that people from virtunix are /here/

>>26957696
Fr?

>>26960313
Yes anon. I am Mira's husband.

>>26961034
Fuckoff, Mira is mine.

>>26961034
Pretty much the most obvious thing outta virtunix since her chara is medform's gijinka