/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

as expected from lazy ungrateful EN whores

>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO STREAM EVERY DAY FOR MY PERSONAL AMUSEMENT
They're right to mock that retarded mentality.

I hate this cunt and her fans so much it's unreal. Disappointed to see she's corrupted Gura as well.

>>26838348
Okay that was actually really cute

this is why amelia is a 2view shitter nowadays

Anon, they ALL laugh at you perpetually dissatisfied /vt/ freaks behind the scenes. She's just honest about it. It's unreasonable to expect streams every day.

Western women still act like western women despite working for a Japanese company.

HoloEN was a mistake.

>>26838348
Kek. Pretty based desu

>>26838348
ITT insecure manbabies

REEEE GIVE ME BOTTLE REEEEE
Like, find something else to fuckin do you losers.

>>26838348
What are they even doing? From what I have seen the only one who is actually unable to do anything is Kronii because of moving. They should just say they are on vacation and be done with it.

Imagine unironically supporting somebody who has no respect for you or your time
Teakeks are mentally ill

>>26838348
Is this really what ENsharts lust after so much? She sounds like a used up roastie and acts like one too.

>MOAR STREAMS
>CHANGE MY DIAPY
>WHERE TENDIES
>FUCKIN WHORES!

>>26838417
>>26838563
>>26838748
>Y-you can't just ask a streamer to stream, chud!
You ENsharts never cease to amaze me.

>>26838748
>HEAR ME HEAR ME, GIVE ME STREAMY! CHANGE MY DIAPY, OR HEAR ME SCREAMY!

Feels nice to have an oshi who actually streams, sorry you guys got stuck with lazy whores holofriends I hope your next gen have better work ethic.

>>26838348
Hope this roastie cunt rots.

EOPs are so unlucky to be at the mercy of ungrateful entitled western whores. They probably accept it thinking it's normal, those poor delusional souls

the absolute state of western """women""", holy shit

HoHololive is not a streaming company. They are a hybrid performance and entertainment group.

Don't be greedy.

>>26838816
That has to be so demoralizing being a holomem and seeing the dysgenic weirdos that are your fans. I would feel gross and dirty and then have to take a shower.

holofags on suicide watch

>>26838879
They could just watch literally any other EN vtuber who isn't affiliated with Hololive. They do this to themselves by being stubborn. If you exclusively eat McDonalds and McDonalds changes their recipe to include human feces most people will just switch to a different restaurant after the first shit burger.

>>26838918
ME WANT STREAMY! ME WANT STREAMY! GIVE ME! GIVE ME! OR I'LL MAKE A STEAMY!

>>26838921
>reddit spacing
opinion disregarded, go back and white knight your western whores on reddit

hot

>>26838348
She really threw the rest of EN under a bus just to prove a point, I get that sometimes viewers can be whiny bitches but this affects your branch mates too…

It’s also odd she says this when she already averages an astronomically low 4-5k ccv, ina and fauna the most low energy EN average more than her… she’s throwing isn’t she?

HoloEN fans have absolutely no standards. Their oshi will insult and mock them and they'll defend her because of "muh freedom". Pathetic.

>>26838348
what bitches..

>>26839059
I doubt anyone but VT gives a shit

>>26838650
These people wanting more streams have to be jobless, otherwise I don't understand how do you have so much free time.

>recycle bait from last July
slow day, huh

>>26838810
Why do you think they're called talents rather than streamers?

I knew I hated this bitch for a reason.
Damn ENfags, you live like this?

I don't care because I don't give them money anyways.

>>26838348
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=https%3A%2F%2Fstreamable.com%2Fymqatg
Someone's desperate

Sad to see her implicate my oshi in this. I guess she's too selfish not to.

Why is it so hard for Nijiniggers to comprehend that Holochads LIKE having less streams?
It makes VODs easier to catch up on, and the girls are in a better mood thanks to having rested, thus making for a higher quality stream experience.
I know quantity over quality is Nijisanji's modus operandi, but they could at least try and think about this.

>>26839147
That's weird, I'm in the same boat. I knew I wouldn't like your comments, that's why I fucked your mom preemptively.

>>26839121
>>26839208
This. Stop making shit bait, OP.

>>26839119
>>26839205
Exactly, its a fucking youtube video. If you want to complain do so. But don't go begging for sympathy on vt just because you have nothing going for your life other than youtube.

>>26838417
if they wont stream then they deserve a lesser percentage

The fact that ENsharts think these EN whores deserve anything more than this unironically splits my sides
You will always be the shitty sidebranch no one cares about
>63k peak for the first free 3D stream on the birthday of miss 4 million subs
>across all her birthday streams, get "arc" if you may, she made half of what mio made on her 1 million subs celebration
shitty sidebranch whores.

>>26839274
Too bad teacuck. You already lose, deflection isn't a valid here. Your oshii spends weeks off and her tummy still horts, maybe she should just graduate.

EN whore? EN whore.

this is why despite not knowing japanese I'll take a korone stream over a gura stream any day of the week
at least you can be sure that korone won't actively shit on her fans

>>26839381
>63k ccv is bad because you have an overwhelmingly high amount of subs
>You're not a TRILLIONAIRE, you're just a BILLIONAIRE!
Like holy shit, what retarded logic is that? You make a shit ton of money and you have more people watching than anyone else. But somehow because you have high subs its bad? Get a job you fucking retard faggot.

>>26839274
the absolute fucking state of teakeks

>>26838348
Unsurprising.

kek i'm happy I unmembered her

>>26839274
This is so fucking sad I feel bad for you guys parroting the "quality over quantity" meme as your girls are too busy having an orgy with their boyfriends to stream lmfao.

>>26839757
As opposed to NijiENs who just have orgies with their boyfriends on stream?

>>26839757
It really hurts you subhumans, doesn't it? That people would rather watch 1 quality stream from their oshi than 10 streams of NijiEN. Well it's the truth. Cope and seethe.

Some of you actually took the reverse bait

>>26839896
No, please don't watch NijiEN. We don't want your kind, every time they show up they're insufferably annoying reddit tourists. Stick to Hololive where you can enjoy being a streamless cuckold while the rest of us enjoy watching vtubers.

>>26838348
I don't like Ame, I think she sucks as an entertainer, her voice is annoying, and her fans dramatically overstate her role in making holoEN work, as if commissioning some 3d assets is what makes or breaks them as vtubers.
That being said, I usually agree with her, and this is no exception.

Imagine watching your designated 1 hour long HoloEN stream a week and having to convince yourself it's peak entertainment. Horrifying.

Hey guys, is this where the incel convention is being held?

>>26840159
This is a reverse shitpost retard. Learn humor.

>>26838348
Woman moment

My oshi considers her to be her Mabudachi... Should I tell her now?

It's your own fault for expecting a western woman to respect her fans.

>>26840045
>HoloEN viewer experience
>Gura finally says she's gonna play something kino like Elden Ring or Metal Gear or the new RE game
>Fans get hyped all week for it
>It's finally time for the stream!
>15 mins delay because she's hungry
>10 more mins delay because she can't figure out how to plug in her controller
>finally starts stream, 15 minutes of talking about her mcdonalds before starting the game
>yells randomly like an annoying toddler to fill dead air
>barely reacting to anything that's going on, complains about every bit of gameplay she's expected to do, whines when there's no difficulty lower than easy mode and ends the stream
>streams the game for exactly 1 hour, the bare minimum required by management, then gotta go because tummy hort
>never touches the game again
ABSOLUTE KINO

How is this a problem? Do you feel cyberbullied? You can always just not watch lazy chuubas you know?

>>26840391
yeah, I love this dumb shark too, elden ring fags can get fucked

>>26840391
Huh, HoloEN can play Metal Gear now?

>>26838936
It has to be so demoralizing to be a Hololive fan and seeing the dysgenic weirdos that HoloEN are. I would feel gross and dirty and then have to tkae a shower.

>>26840590
They always could, JP's played MGS V on stream.
Half the time chuubas tell you they don't have permissions for a game it's really because they just don't wanna play it.

>>26839274
HoloEN hasn't had a quality stream in months. Even "la creatividad" is just recycling old material at this point with her VRC shit.

>>26840699
I don't know, I haven't followed HoloEN in a long while, but it feels to me like Mori or Gura would have already played MGR by now if they could.

>>26840910
They have permissions for it they just can't play it because the anti-war message is too political apparently, or they just don't want to attract Metal Gear tourists backseating them.

I can summarize how Gura's MGR stream would go if she did play it though.
>Makes random noises every time she swings Raiden's katana to fill dead air
>Never acknowledges any of the story
>Gets to the first boss, can't figure out how to slice objects and ends the stream
She probably knows this and that's why she won't bother with it, it just doesn't interest her.

>>26838348
This is a year old and completely out of context
Ame moved the date back on her stream a few times as a joke while she was in private vc with the other en girls after irys debut which she delayed for , and all of her chat was playing along and was fine with it
Really reaching with “they hate their fans” shit

>>26841121
Exactly why this is a joke shitpost and people fell for it.
Most of them got it though.

>>26838713
YWNBJ

These bitches are so lazy

>>26838348
Extremely based. Fuck needy unicorn faggots.

>>26841298
Wow only Watson streams
Kill EN bitches

>>26838348
I miss her old voice before she hid it behind a thousand layers of GOXLR

Streams every day would be nice but I don't think it's fair to call fans spoiled for expecting more than *checks notes* a pop tart tasting collab and a one hour smash collab that was full of scuff from the first myth offcollab in 2 years.

>>26838417
>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO STREAM EVERY DAY FOR MY PERSONAL AMUSEMENT
Yes

>>26838810
>These girls are idols! Not streamers
Do Idols stuff
>Woah, where did the stream go? Ame doko, Gura doko...

>>26841298
Kinda crazy to think that IRyS streams as little often as some of the bottom half but manages top 3 because of her stream length

>>26841298
So why is Ame the only EN who streamed an decent amount in the last 2 months? The hell is going on on EN?

>>26839119
Honestly this is the only conclusion I've come to. They're either jobless or they wouldn't even watch the streams if there were 10x more and just want to find some perceived flaw that they can pounce on even if it only makes sense in their schizo brains. Scheduleschizos are the most pathetic creatures on Earth.

>>26841680
I think its EN management being over protective again. They saw all those JP girls having throat issues and told the EN girls to stop streaming as much so they don't fry their voice in a year.

And this is why I don't get posts like >>26841398 or >>26840045 because they clearly dislike them, so they should be either indifferent or happy about it.
Is it just nijifags like >>26839757 and >>26839977 again? Do people really let Hololive live rent-free in their heads like this? Do you watch a stream and think "heh, I wonder if Hololive is streaming right now"?

Ame and teamates are honourary nijiniggers and i will celebrate over her graduation

>>26841836
Except other EN corpos like Pomu have been streaming 40-50 hours a week for over a year and don't have any throat issues. The reason JP's have those issues isn't due to their stream hours it's because they do forced character voices to sound cute. That's also why Kuzuha or Kanae or Fubuki or Koyori can stream for very long periods of time and not have any problems, because they're just talking normally unlike Pekora or Korone or Marine.
We've seen this with other vtubers like Suisei and Sora who were told by their doctors to stop doing a character voice for their own health.

It's fucking joke. Are you actually retarded?
Maybe the seamonkey meme is real.

>>26840610
>t.fat, sweaty, manbaby that cries when he does get his youtube pacifier

>>26842093
>Fubuki or Koyori
>they're just talking normally
Retard. And a nippletwister. Makes sense.

>>26842134
Another one didn't get the joke.
Now i'm really worried people don't understand humor anymore.

>>26840610
CREAMY STREAMY IN MY BELLY! NO TO SHOWERS, YES TO SMELLY!

Imagine any of the JP girls doing this shit. Even the ones who barely stream like Ayame won't tease their fans about it. The JP and ID girls are grateful for their opportunities while Ame is high off her own farts

>>26842257
Its an out of conext clip from July 2021 about 1 stream in particular that became a meme (airplane watchalong)
Ame streamed more than everyone in EN the last few months and is #2 overall

>>26842257
Absolutely this. It's not a Cover-specific problem either; its a big culture difference with a LOT of EN vtubers.

Mori showing how fucking clueless she is about her own finances and bitching about it being another prime example. Any JP or ID talent would never fucking dream of going on stream and saying that sorta shit.

>>26842583
>finances and bitching about it being another prime example
> Any JP or ID talent would never fucking dream of going on stream and saying that sorta shit.
Moona

>>26842646
I will give ya that one, but my point was it's WAY less common than it is with EN vtubers

>>26841298
> Sana
I wonder how long before she graduates. Damn

>>26842764
how would you even know whether or not it's "less common" ?
Most of the content you watch has been curated by quality through clippings. Unless you're fully fluent in Japanese, you really know next to nothing about the reality

>EOP reddit faggots went from not watching streams to literally not wanting the girls to stream
Why is holoen not a mistake again?

>EN Fans still complain about so called "mistreatment" by cover
Why would a company reward lazy employees who half ass everything?

>>26843202
LOL, I stick to mainly watching to JP girls because yes, I do speak Japanese anon. You are right about clippers curating what they translate and post.

The point I and a few others in here are making: many (not all) EN vtubers have a noticeably worse work ethic and attitude towards their fanbases, and absolutely don't seem to appreciate their situation to the same degree. Maybe just chalk it up to good ol American entitlement, or a difference in management for EN in particular. IDK what the root cause is, but especially for multilingual anons who can directly compare content, the difference is stark af

>>26844116
>I do speak Japanese anon
X

>>26838348
based. look at all the seethe that's been produced by the children
even the one niji who tried and didn't get any attention because nobody gives a shit about the rejects

>>26838348
>Work 4 hours a week max
>Don't care about your public
>Millionaries
Vtubers were a mistake

>>26844116
>, but especially for multilingual anons who can directly compare content
This hasn't been done before though. everyone is just posting with their preconceived biases in mind.
In the recent off-collab where they played Smash, they even talked about how they always have work and projects going on behind the scenes when they aren't streaming. One of the primary reasons for the off-collab is the fact that they have work to do which requires the use of Ame's home studio
Besides this thread is bait from the beginning, as other anons have already pointed out

>>26843094
Probably soon, seeing all her sanalite whales moved to her rm streams

>>26838348
Based

>>26842064
its because holofags have acted like the biggest fags on the board for years now and people want to put them in their place because of how annoying theyve been.
or its the very same falseflaggers who were the annoying holofags, now pretending to be anti-holo to trigger the holofags victim complex.
>>26842093
pomu is also doing a voice but shes doing one that just hasnt killed her her vocal cords just yet and shes not doing behind the scenes stuff with her voice as much as the holo do.
its also that theyve been doing the voice for years now, with long streams almost daily in some cases.

>>26838667
Anon theyre living. Some days you just relax and avoid the moshpit of manbabies. Its so weird how alien so many of you are that you think streamers enter stasis the moment they end stream.

>>26838921
Hololive is a streaming "company" (read, just a bunch of women streaming for a bunch of losers)

>>26838348
Moooom, the anime girl is making a joke that hurt my feelings...

>>26844592
>living
Is that codeword for fucking their boyfriends?

>>26844856
Sure, if that's your fantasy. Fap away, anon.

>>26844592
honestly most anons are avoid talking about the solution and thats to have more vtubers (either more holoen members be added or anons expanding their viewership to other companies or indies) to fill in for the busy ones because they dont want to admit having quantity is better for the overall quality.
dont get me wrong though, niji does push out more then the demand and hasnt put a cap on the amount but holo adding a new gen or 2 and then waiting for the current ones to eventually graduate or w/e happens before adding more would benefit them.

>>26840910
They don't have permissions. Nobody in hololive has played a konami game since permissions became a thing.

>>26844376
Holo EN was truly the beginning of the end for vtubing as a whole. they brought so many retards into the fanbase that it nearly ruined it. And the standard they are setting for future vtubers is dreadful

>>26844979
>honestly most anons are avoid talking about the solution and thats to have more vtubers
Not sure why you think people avoid talking about that. Global has been begging for EN3 for quite awhile now since the current members don't stream nearly enough.

>>26845152
lol

>>26845152
Vtubing in general was the beggining of the end, with retards justifying dropping thousands for 1 second of interaction

>>26844979
People have talked about in other parts of the catalogue which is why the general opinion of EN holostars has changed and why people beg for EN3 to come out.

Honestly council and irys was supposed to fix this but they all overlap and take breaks at the same time as myth.

The next gen needs to be a gamers kind with less behind the scene projects and more Stream focus.

Now I understand why Cover gives 0 resources or any kind of help.

>>26838921
99% of the content you watch from them are streams. Explain this part.

>>26844529
>or its the very same falseflaggers who were the annoying holofags, now pretending to be anti-holo to trigger the holofags victim complex.
Some of them are NijiENfags now, but they all came from the same crowd yeah. This is also the biggest truth of the board that goes unnoticed because the majority of /vt/ are either newfags now or were newfags more than 2 years ago, as far as vtubers and vtuber threads go.

>>26841827
So many claims about them being jobless while defending people not doing the minimum of the job and actually wanting to encourage them to do even less.

>>26845166
>>26845748
my bad then, i was basing that part off these threads since i dont visit the holo generals much so i hadnt seen when theyve talked about it.

>>26845884
It's nothing to do with that. They've barely helped since the beginning.
Cover just doesn't seem to want to take risks despite the fact that HoloEN was an instant huge success

>>26838348
Just stop, respect yourself, cultivate your mind and learn japanese. Move to Koyo. She loves you, and will give her all to make you happy.
From her own little shows, to radio, to just chatting, to taking care of other holos off-stream even with her schedule, to her giving us all the fanservice she could in her 3D debut, she is simply the best. She deserve it all.

>>26845986
It's because none of the people arguing are the normal viewer.

You either got falseflaggers, shitposters,antis, mega simps, and people who legitimately want them to work themselves to death.

The silent majority has been leaving HoloEN in a steady amount since january since all the flaky streaming schedule started. Kiara in a recent stream when someone mentioned they were still watching said that several of her members and superchatters just disappeared and never interacted with the stream.

It is just hard to notice because as mentioned above trying to use actual logic will get you declared a numberfag if on /vt/ or will get you dogpiled by rabid fans on reddit.

>>26846209
To play Devil's Advocate it might have to do with what we see now. We don't see behind the scene so we don't know what Cover saw with the EN girls and decided to do.

But we do know Several of them shit on Omega and other management and how all of them seem to have constant reasons for not streaming or in the case of Calli has been attempting to pull her fans to her RM they might not trust investing into EN because they think several or most of them will waste any investment they do.

>>26846293
probably the best and most sensible post ITT. good summary. vtubers can act as high and mighty as they want but at the end of they day if people decide to stop watching them they can't do anything about it

>>26839274
>still using the quality over quantity argument after the smash stream
you guys are literally getting neither lmfao

>>26838348

beyond cringe....to all eops out there be a better friend to yourself learn some japanese so u can at least watch girls that semi care. Not these basic bitch westerners.

>>26838348
Based if they accept and reciprocate their fans' romantic love and form an exclusive relationship with their fanbase, otherwise cringe.

>>26838348

how long ago was this? this was pre-voice filters

>>26844529
>holofags victim complex
Let's be honest here, there's a victim complex on both sides. Both accuses each other of doing the things they themselves are doing, it's never ending.
At this point, does it even matter who started what? If you go far enough, you might find out that it was the Niji fans who were being arrogant when they were on top.
You need to understand that people here post things specifically to get a reaction, none of this is genuine, it's all shitposting after shitposting. The problem started when people took the shitposting seriously, and that encouraged the dramafags/tribalfags even more.
Your ticket to stay sane is to respond to comments with the same amount of energy that they made it, if they are shitposting then respond with more shitposting, if they are serious then match that. If possible, dramafags should be ignored.

>>26848534
>voice filters
lol what

Unironically the only good ENs in the end were EN0- Coco and Haachama.

>>26838348
YOU MOTHER FUCKER, I THOUGHT SHE HAD A STREAM AND I MISSED IT

>>26838417
it's literally their job?!

>>26838417
It's. . . literally their job.

>>26838417
it's their job

>>26848934
>>26848939
Their job is wife to internet otaku.

Why are women so ungrateful? Every man below 30 dreams or has dreamt of being able to break into the streaming world. They were handed quite possibly one of the easiest ways of life and they are completely and utterly unappreciative of this. Each and every one of them without exception.

>>26849110
this. and if by some chance I would make it into a HoloStarsEN branch or whatever the fuck, I would for sure stream atleast 3-4 hours a day around noon time. that would give me the whole fucking day to get non-vtuber related shit done then devote my nights to my job streaming. these girls can't even fathom doing even that kek

>Holo JP, Indo stream during off collabs
>All branches of Nijisanji also do the same
>Holo EN gets together, an incredible rarity given their distance
>Fans obviously expect streams, its been nearly 2 years after all
>HOW DARE YOU, WHY ARE YOU SO ENTITLED

This is what happens when you make women millionares by virtue of them existing.
The only that gets a pass is Kiara because she actually works hard.

>>26849110
This. It's baffling.

>>26839014
the fuck is reddit spacing, sounds like you spend a lot of time there

>>26849378
>deflecting
just take the L redditfriend

The absolute state of nijifags not being able to tell what sarcasm is

>>26838348
very cringe

>this many people not even knowing what the original stream is referring to
holy shit kek
watch streams and quit replying to bait my god

Why is OP more autistic than usual?

>>26838348
Welcome to the Council-infected mindset that 2022 HoloEN has.

>>26838348
Lol I actually remember this. It was the airplane watchalong and it was already moved a couple days unexpectedly because ame gonna ame. I unmembered her after that comment

>>26839274
>it's okay when holos have less streams

>>26849378
>not knowing what reddit spacing is
go back you absolute newfag

>>26849378
On Reddit, there's a bug where line breaks get ignored if they're just a single /r/n between 2 words. You either have to do 2 line breaks or something else for the line break to be processed. So if someone has excessive line breaks on 4chan, that creates the perception that they're a Redditor who's instinctually working around their favorite site's shitty bugs.

what the fuck

trashy whore

>>26849335
Bitch you got three streams.
and as you said its rare maybe they want time to hang out together alone

>>26838348
based

>>26838348
No one is entitled to streams.

>>26838348
>>26838417
They have the right, but it does not make it any less childish from their side

>still watching HoloEN in the current year + 7

>>26838835
i heard pomu sucks dick real good at cons

take the English speaking ID pill, stop being a western whore loving faggot and a retarded clip watcher pretending to know japanese

>>26838348
She was being sarcastic dumb SEA Monkey. It's something your people will never understand.

>>26859525
yeah mine

>>26859577
cope

>be western woman
>think you're entitled to free money
>shit on the people that give you that money
many such cases
ungrateful whores

>>26841343
t. roastie

Why does HoloEN hate their fans so much?

>>26844453
Keep making excuses you pathetic fucking simp

>>26838348
And Teakeks worship this bitch. Kek

>>26859355
No one is entitled to money

>>26859601
how much does she charge?

sorry teabros she's going down on ailvervale

>>26838563
>Anon, they ALL laugh at you perpetually dissatisfied /vt/ freaks behind the scenes. She's just honest about it. It's unreasonable to expect streams every day.
Is it? Well then, gonna call my boss this monday and tell him it's unreasonable for me to be there 6 days a week, wish me luck! o7

>All these Wapanese woman-haters ITT
What the fuck is going on?

>>26863624
Drama tourists who hate all things vtubing and just want drama

>>26863624
t. simp cuck

>>26839071
>and they'll defend her because of "muh freedom".
And then when someone from a company where they actually DO stream makes a joke they don't like they treat "freedom" as something worth mocking

>>26838348
Link to stream please.

>>26838449
Isn’t that out of context?

>>26849665
>Everyone who doesn't like my favorite whore is a Nijifag!!!
Ogey

>>26838936
Half of EN are americans/australians, so they would be quite accustomed to the sight of average american anatomy.

Though i can see how the european and asian girls could be startled.

Around 10 years ago a clearly american tourist couple visited my country and i honestly felt like i was looking at some strange species of human i didnt know existed or was even possible to grow into, they were so massive. I havent seen anything like it since.

>>26841298
The bitch sounds like Marge Simpson

>>26838348
This sounds a lot like a free talk waiting room that almost expired and got it's date pushed back again. I'm sure though you'd never dream of taking a sound bite like that out of context to lead people into believing otherwise, right?

Please fuck off back to your drama thread discord.

>>26842093
>We've seen this with other vtubers like Suisei and Sora who were told by their doctors to stop doing a character voice for their own health.
Suisei yes but Sora ? no, never happened

For the record, they're not streamers, they're virtual entertainers, streaming is the main platform they use for connecting with their audience. In their contract, it is only stated that they have to put out content, not that they have to stream said content live and that's an important point. If one of them chose to put out only edited videos, that would be perfectly fine as well.
Some of them are taking the time right now to put out more varied content in the near future and if you can't understand that, you do deserve to be mocked. That said, it's not like most of them were streaming too much prior to the past months as well, but you should take up your complaint with them, not with the ones who actually stream otherwise.

>>26839274
>Ame mocks desperate fans
>Nijisanji should think about how they do things
jesus fucking christ

>>26865397
fuck off ame

>>26863217
I haven't seen anyone claim that they are entitled to money.

>>26838348
I can't remember mumei or fauna hating their fans but everyone else, sure
ame: snaps at her fans all the time, regularly cancels streams
kiara: treats them like underlings
ina: "smelly neets with nothing better to do than watch anime girls on a friday night" rant
calli: PLEASE let me have fun/5%/constantly reminding us she doesn't care anymore
gura: does everything she can to not stream, doesn't tweet, doesn't read chat
sana: fuck you teeheee
kronii: would rather play games offline than stream to the point her manager had to get involved
bae: more interested in roberu than her fans

I used to be a DD but I think /jp/ was right, EN was a mistake

>>26838417
Kronii stop posting here.

>>26865869
If you want to split hairs Ame literally called her fans piggy banks

that being said, she streams a lot and even turns off SCs sometimes and doesn't SC bait

>>26866448
>I can't remember mumei or fauna hating their fans but everyone else, sure
There are a couple instances of them mocking and laughing at SCers. Couple that with the lack of streams and general disdain for their chat.

>>26866625
lack of streams sure, on mumei's part but fauna streams pretty regularly (outside of moving recently) and I genuinely haven't seen any kind of disdain towards their chat.

>>26866625
disdain for their chat like ending a stream because they're tilted, without saying a word, only to restart it 2 hours later, again without saying a word? Or shitting on a comment under one of your vids who was giving genuinely good advice, only to edit the comment later to make it seem like you were being nice the whole time when you figure out his advice was correct?

Imagine being such a delusional teamate that you still deflect with the just a joke excuse when Ame in particular has used jokes to say what she really thinks since damn near debut and has consistently displayed absolute contempt for her watchers. Remember teamates, you are nothing but a goomba to shit out a coin when she steps on you. Get some standards.
This is exactly why the only good holoen member is kiara. As many flaws as she has she at least can acknowledge the opportunity she's been given and has a half decent work ethic because of it.

So... If Amelia who streams the most out of EN says something like this, what do we actually expect from the rest of Holo EN as a whole?

>>26866716
>>26866916
t. disgruntled teamates who turned into cucklings

>>26867053
>This is exactly why the only good holoen member is kiara
Stop being spoiled

>>26838348
just don't donate money lmao

no one's forcing you to be a member or SC

Hope this board also realise that Amelia's "3D streams" were never "kino", and that she hasn't done anything good

>>26867391
Maybe if you keep spammimg everyday like the little bitch you are kek

>>26867442
Teacucks are the ones spamming the board though

I don't watch hololive but you SEAfriends really can't take joke/bantz, huh?
Is it a culture thing? Or maybe just the 'tism

>>26838390
fpbp

>>26867639
Teacope

>>26867699
Whats

>>26838810
this
jps know their place and arent ungrateful lazy bastards

>>26838810
Thanks for not using the inbred Luna edit

>>26866448
Is nobody going to tell this guy how stupid he sounds for quoting a bunch of out of context shit that gets memed here and presenting it as "the final straw that proves how much they hate their fans"? I mean this entire post screams threadreader. There are so many people here who just blatantly don't even watch streams and just regurgitate what the threads tell them to think, and they don't even try to hide it. Like I don't get how it's more entertaining for you to spend all that time here instead of watching a stream. This is why I only come here every once in a while, see a stupid post like this, call it out, and then go back to watching streams. It's a good way to release some stress by yelling at some idiots, but I can't imagine spending hours of my day here.

>>26863527
You are not their boss. Worse, your non-existent state of authority over their work schedule is shared among thousands of people. You have one fraction of nothing to say here.
>it's unreasonable for me
Where's the mocap study you built and how much time do you organize and meet with your employees outside of your work?

>>26844116
>but especially for multilingual anons who can directly compare content, the difference is stark af
this
you literally just have to watch a sample of pekora streams from throughout her career and she keeps the quality at 100 throughout, just consistent high energy entertainment every single stream, its really impressive
pegor has the strongest work ethic imo (obv to an unhealthy degree, but i think she really does love streaming and is meant for it), but some of the other jps are close behind
the others im subscribed to are miko, koone, watame, haachama and theyre also able to deliver consistent content
and when i tune into some of these jps live, im grinning like every couple of minutes
the atmosphere is just so light and fun in comparison to say, all of the recent off collab content (minus the gurame stream, which was kino)
eops really have no clue

>>26868008
It's great to be here during kino streams and to enjoy the /vt/ related fanprojects/dead hours activity. It's absolute shit just about any other time. So... better work and enjoy life, don't do that here.

>>26868045
When it comes down to it the business model is no different from a busker on the street. If I sat in front of the dude playing his guitar every day and gave him ten dollars and one entire month he just didn't show up without explanation, it would be pretty ridiculous to get pissed off over it and scream at him, "I've given you THOUSANDS, you should be here!'

The funniest part is when their cucked fans try to defend them by saying they have duties outside of streaming, that being a vtuber from hololive demands a lot of other time-consuming tasks. Yet, you have Twitch streamers like Maximilian Dood who stream way more than any of them and still pumps out more YT and other offline content, doing his best to make sure every stream is at its best without running into any tech issues, something the EN bitches still fail to do even after almost 2 years. The cucks will also point to Twitch streamers that spend all of their time reacting to content, so they have it easy, and yet people like xQc still play more games on stream than any holo member ever will, even despite all the react content. They're a bunch of lazy, self-centered whores.

>>26868356
Some of them are obscenely active. But I don't think that's a difference between JP and EN, or else Aqua, Shion and Ayame would hold themselves to the same work ethic. And I don't say that to punch down on them, Aqua used to be stupidly active and engaging before EN, and Shion is one of the best singers in HL desu. Ayame I simply never watched on her own and don't know nearly well enough. At the end of the day, if you're happy with some holos, all's right with the world.

>>26838449
cope n seethe chumbuddy cope n seethe!

WE RUN THIS BOARD FUCCBOI

>>26838650
I can never get past the part where he says "MOLESTER" without cringing out of my own skin.

>>26841680
Usually Kiara streams more than 100h per month but things have been slow due to Maldives, Dokomi, Mori Visit, Infection and USA trip.

>>26841680
Ame is the only one who cares

>>26869135
>people like xQc still play more games on stream than any holo member ever will
hai hai hai hai hai hai hai hai

>>26869135
>Maximillian Dood
>BEST OF & TOP MOMENTS
>Max Reacts: Live Reactions to Trailers/Announcements
>RATE THE SUPER
>Hype and Rage compilations with Max
>dog videos
First of all: Not a vtuber. Secondly, I am not going to shit on this guy for having his own clippers integrated into his channel (in fact a couple of corpos and indies pay people to edit their VODs or clips). But if that's the height of your measurement bar we can also include clippers. Thirdly, you aren't redeeming Twitch streamers by bringing up someone who has a format called RATE THE SUPER and who watches Trailers onstream. Lastly and I reckon that's more of my own ice cold shit take, playing video games in itself is no good content.
>but it's what most vtubers do
I'll get back to you if you show me good examples of his zatsudan game.
>but he isn't that kind of streamer
Well, refer back to my first point.

Why do people watch EN at this point? I truly do not understand it.

>>26848934
>>26848939
>>26849050
Is samefagging your job?!

>>26842145
You defend women who play games one day a week for a living for a few hours. I can't imagine what you look like, or your brain.

>>26838417
How pathetic are you that you think the people who provide for the streamers, who spend their hard earned money (hard earned unlike the streamers themselves) shouldn't have a right to complain or criticize the people they pay for. Fucking retard, talking about entitled, I think it's entitled to work one day a week where your workload is playing a video game and expect people do not complain.

>>26871334

those are within 1 minute cooldown, it was just some sameminding >>26848934 >>26848939

>>26871334
Go back you newfag.

>>26838810
>>26848934
>>26848939
>>26849050
It's their job to stream and entertain yes, but it's not their job to stream or entertain to the arbitrary amount or extent you want.
And since it IS a job, you are free to take your money elsewhere without looking back or complaining like petulant children.

>>26869646
True, ill shit on anyone except Ame, also gura because she is cunny

>>26866448
&IRyS

>>26871375
And you complain about women who play games one day a week for a living for a few hours, that's equally as pathetic

>>26838348
>Based or cringe?
Idk but here is a picture of sex cat Albania

>>26871587
Not if they work for my entertainment, that's what being an entertainer is, you get paid for doing things other people like to see.

>>26871638
stay in your containment thread nijisister, hololive fans don't take kindly to your ilk

>>26871538
They are also free to complain, just like you bitch about them complaining. They have the right to demand things from the people they support.

>Myth minus Mori hype the "off-collab" arc
>Fans get hyped
>Myth-1 don't deliver content
>Fans are confused
>Myth-1 tell fans they're entitled for expecting streams
What did they mean by this?

>>26838417
Please fuck off twittertranny

>>26838348
>Ame says there will be exicting stream(s) coming up,
>GurAme happens, signaling an off collab happening, with Kiara coming soon for her 3D birthday live
>Fans get excited
>Ina x Kiara x Gura collab happens
>Fans get excited for more streams
>The scuffed Smash collab happens, Mori mention
>Fans at peak hype
>radio silence
>Fans become confused/ frustrated
>The Kiara "you are spoiled rant"
>fans become dejected, upset, frustrated
This is all on Myth for hyping something up that THEY didn't want hyped up.

>>26871952
Simple. They hate their fans.

>>26848659
>Let's be honest here, there's a victim complex on both sides. Both accuses each other of doing the things they themselves are doing, it's never ending.
Not him but the circumstances were pretty clear as someone watching the threads evolve from 2017 to the turning point of 2019/2020. There were always shitposters and falseflaggers even back then like you suggest, it's just that they were a lot fewer and easier to both notice and ignore. The problem is that there was an influx of fresh posters who almost instantly became the majority who were also 2 years late at that point to know who was doing what, and for what reactions. The first "victim complex" was something like newfags getting bullied by /jp/sies sperging out and still trying to gatekeep, and developing a console war mentality since it's a fact a lot of them came from cross-linked /v/ threads.

Anyway yeah none of the actual history matters at this point, we're all here now and everyone is retarded.

>>26849110
all those men have to do is become vtubers, with actual decent models, then BOOM, they'll break 10 viewers for once. not many people want to watch your average joe playing league and talking about his boring ass life, once you put on a character you get more traction. weebs have shit tons of disposable income, if these men wanted to succeed, they'd hop on this bandwagon like all sluts are doing, it's that easy. again, all you need is a decent looking model, a slither of confidence in your personality and to pander to what girl/fag weebs want to see. or get a voice changer and be a girl vtuber, or a trap. retard.

>>26838348
Oh nooooo
God forbid that whore do her job.
Imagine being the type of subhuman that gives money to this skunk.

>>26866448
>I can't remember mumei or fauna hating their fans
Well I mean yeah, cucking should be more than enough already.

>>26868356
>she keeps the quality at 100 throughout, just consistent high energy entertainment ever
I just watched pekora's holocure stream and remember why I don't watch her. The constantly high-pitched voice. It wears on the ears.

>>26844116
Dumb Malaysian

>>26869401
>The guy that pulls off the mic that literally full body cringes after he says it

>>26838471
this

>>26846293
Just like how female streamers lose 30% of their viewers when they get a bf, but mentioning that will cause people to shit their pants hard with rage.

>>26872070
The girls split up after the third day of recording. Ina went back to drawing for chink games, Kiara is off with some real life friends and Gura is MIA.
They never intended to stream during the off-collab since the whole thing was only meant to be a recording session between Ame and Kiara (Ina and Gura invited themselves).
They’re currently waiting for Mori to show up to actually start streaming apparently and then they’ll go home before Mori goes to AX.

>>26838348
I will consider to compare their work ethic with the JP girls.
I was pretty dead set on going to the US(I'm bong) before I got into Hololive but it genuinely seems like the most feminine in the US are the laziest while the whores are working hard.

>>26872070
They are too secretive and vague. It's easy to get confused and wonder if they're actually working on stuff or just coasting and finding other interests.

>>26881102
EN cares for their fans the way Cover cares for EN. As in, happy to take their sheckles but don't actually give a shit.

Take a peek at https://schedule.hololive.tv/ and see how little they actually stream compared to the professionals. Even with 3x that many JP members, they stream and produce content at like 10x.

Why not mention holodex instead? Because that's the corp site, they absolutely 100% know how lazy EN is and don't care.

Quality > Quantity

>>26864788
That’s America for you. We’re not actually that fat (obesity rates in the US are shockingly similar to most of Western Europe, Canada, and Australia, and I think Mexico’s technically fatter than us)

But in America, the tail end of the curve is way longer. By which the average American isn’t *that* much bigger than the average European, but the fat ones are *massive*

>>26883770
ok where is the quality?

>>26838471
yep

>>26844856
Still don't get why you should even care if they got boyfriends lol.

>>26838417
It’s their fucking job, I swear egirls have it too easy

>>26871952
this is a year old retard

>>26838417
Japanese women dream of becoming cute their entire lives. Western women think being cute is cringe. This is why it's ok when Japanese women do it.

>this thread is still going
it's a year old out of context clip that has nothing to do with the offcollab this week
jesus I hate this board sometimes
fucking whiny wapanese faggots itt

>>26887034
Suck it up holofan, everyone else on the board doesn't get the luxury of meidos actively deleting bait threads for their oshi.

>>26866625
the piggy banks comment was a joke
>even turns off SCs sometimes and doesn't SC bait
thays how you can tell it was a joke
>>26867053
>>26866916
seethe schizo

>>26881102
Why the hell would you come here? Do you want a hamplanet gf? I understand if you're an architect but please. Even asian americans can't hold a candle to the cuteness of real asians.

>>26887223
a bit a truth lies in every sarcastic joke

>>26887308
omg she HATES us! (she doesn't)
seriously you've been saying the same line for a year or more
give it up schizo

>>26887402
that's the first time I've ever said it. take your meds

>>26887458
you first

>>26887479
t. paranoid schizophrenic

>>26887525
>>26887479
Jesus Christ kiss or fuck or whatever, you two.

>>26888077
fuck off fujo

>>26838685
Imagine supporting bullies instead. You need therapy.

>>26839381
You need therapy for real. Go get it.

>>26888681
But Amelia is the bully.

>>26887288
Well Scotland is good but it's really small. If you live in the US you can take vacations to other places in the US that are completely different.
Has nothing to do with girls, the thought of going to a foreign country to sleep with women is whorish, though obviously it would be nips if I would.

>>26838348
I posted many good things about this bitch yesterday but I take all back. HoloEn deserves the rope.

>>26888107

>>26844592
>theyre living. Some days you just relax and avoid the moshpit of manbabies.

>>26867053
>Remember teamates, you are nothing but a goomba
how did you know that

>>26838417
What? You act like they stream in the first place. They are lazy

>>26881102
Whores are popular for a reason anon, they're usually friendly with men and easy to get along with. It's women who hate whores.

>>26892951
is irrelevant to what I said about work ethic and what it would imply for what culture would be like

>>26849110
Western woman mentally. This pedestal mentality is plentiful in their minds.

>>26840391
>literally the Mumei experience
no wonder people think she and gura are the same person

>>26838348
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
fuck you never-satisfied schizos lmao
i hope she does it again

>>26895109
imagine being this happy over being a cuck

>>26879737
a modern day Jesus, that fella.

Teakeks status?

>>26869744
He plays more hours than Koyori too.
>>26869874
Not being a vtuber is irrelevant to the point, fucking imbecile. It's a counterargument to what cucks like yourself like to bring up about other streamers.
>Secondly, I am not going to shit on this guy for having his own clippers integrated into his channel
He edits his own videos
>Thirdly, you aren't redeeming Twitch streamers by bringing up someone who has a format called RATE THE SUPER and who watches Trailers onstream
What's your point? He still streams and puts out more original content than any of your holowhores even if you take out his "rate the super" series.
>Lastly and I reckon that's more of my own ice cold shit take, playing video games in itself is no good content.
It's most of your holowhores content and he does more onstream and offstream content, faggot.
>I'll get back to you if you show me good examples of his zatsudan game.
He doesn't do dedicated zatsus but still chats more than any of your holowhores

>>26900221
>you imbecile
Stop crying, I don't care. He still does non-original reaction content like xQc, still includes someone else's clips, no 12 hour streams, no music recording. Your streamer is offtopic here and you're making him look bad.

based

>>26881102
You're posting this membership that expired in November 2020, a mere two months after they debuted. Clearly your problem with her goes a lot deeper because you canceled your membership back in the days when she was actually streaming, long before all the ENs got lazy as fuck with stream frequency.

>waaaaaaaaaaah western women
>waaaaaaaaah my pure Japanese waifu
God shut up you fucking pathetic weeaboos.

>>26845907
that's why they don't stream now to reduce the ratio

>>26838348
Oof

>>26843499
No one can

>>26838810
Wild

hope she graduates soon