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26726874 No.26726874 [Reply] [Original]

Stop sending superchats to Mori guys. Between Cover's cut, Youtube's cut, and the taxes she pays, a measly 7% of your superchat donation makes it to her. The rest is funding a bunch of random shit, such as:
>Youtube servers
>Japanese social programs
>Lockheed Martin & various other U.S. DoD contracts
>Whatever Cover does with their earnings, idk
If there's any deadbeats still on this board, you need to stop superchatting her money NOW.


Sources:
https://influencermarketinghub.com/youtube-super-chat/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU5zcWTmRZc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFkjWTZaapQ

>> No.26726942

>Youtube servers
>Japanese social programs
>Lockheed Martin & various other U.S. DoD contracts
>Whatever Cover does with their earnings, idk
Those are all good things, though

>> No.26727051

>>26726874
What was the point of targeting her specifically instead of making a thread about Hololive in general?

>> No.26727143

>>26727051
Because Mori isn't taxed the same way as other Holos, see the attached sources in the OP.

>> No.26727191

>>26727143
That looks like a simple Mori problem.

>> No.26727204

>>26726874
https://www.irs.gov/publications/p514

>If you are a U.S. citizen or a resident alien of the United States and you live abroad, you are taxed on your worldwide income. However, you may qualify to exclude your foreign earnings from income up to an amount that is adjusted annually for inflation ($105,900 for 2019, $107,600 for 2020, $108,700 for 2021, and $112,000 for 2022).

She made fucking 112K after all of those cuts and is only double taxed on every dollar past that. You're listening to a fucking millionaire whine about taxes. in that last video.

>> No.26727228

>>26726874
>We get her 5%
>She gets our 7%

>> No.26727252

if you wanted to give her money doing it through bandcamp has always been the way

most ppl superchatting vtubers are doing it for the parasocial buzz and no other reason so something like this isn't gonna change anything

>> No.26727310

>>26727204
>You're listening to a fucking millionaire whine about taxes
I mean, wouldn't you?

>> No.26727315

>>26726874
congratulations anon, you finally learned how to calculate revenue via superchats and how its not reliable as consistent income due to many cuts (especially if you are belonging to a corpo).

>> No.26727348

For context, the maximum superchatable donation ($500) nets her $35, which is just about enough to order a meal from McDonalds' through Ubereats once.

>> No.26727393

>>26727310
No, I would just move to texas and their tax free streamer income like all the other big streamers

>> No.26727394

>>26727310
I'm actually wealthier than her, what disgusts me isn't the whining but the fact that she keeps lying about not being wealthy.
That or she's retarded and actually believes it, wouldn't surprise me.

>> No.26727464

>>26727394
/vt/ higher concentration of multi millionaires than Monaco confirmed?????

>> No.26727517

Yes move back to the US and take pointers on how other millionaires avoid paying taxes.

>> No.26727521

>>26727464
It's 2022 and the economy is in shambles anon, the average US household net worth has to be something like half a million now and you're on a board filled with nerds working in tech.

>> No.26727555

>>26726874
nice writeup, i've sent my final superchat to Calli

>> No.26727595

>>26727464
Self selection bias. This is a hobby that attracts people that work in IT and have too much money for their own good and don't know how to spend it.

>> No.26727656

>>26727517
or just renounce your US citizenship, then you dont owe them anything

>> No.26727707

So what would the better alternative be if you wanted your oshi to get the best financial cut? Not just for Mori but for everyone. Merch? Membership?

>> No.26727773

>>26727464

single dudes + US white collar salaries + tech

money that they dont really know what to do with

>> No.26727795

>>26727707
mail an envelope full of cash to her, they still accept fan letters.

>> No.26727902

>>26726874
I mean, she now has other source of incomes like concert, merch and appereance's fee like on Vcarnival.
So I doubt superchat is now her priority on incomes.

>> No.26727946

>>26727795
Fan letters get screened by Cover, which definitely has a policy of either taking their regular cut or might confiscate all the money from not going through an "appropriate channel" if they're particularly scummy.
Not to mention I'm not sure if you'd even be able to mail an envelope full of cash to a different country, there's no way they don't track that somehow.

Honestly, find a way to send money to her roommate, Cover and Youtube are the two big obstacles here.

>> No.26727957

>>26727656
what happens when you have zero citizenship? would you even be allowed to go anywhere?

>> No.26728016

>>26727957
Google "statelessness". EU countries actually won't let you renounce citizenship because of how much being stateless fuck you over, but the US sure as heck will.

>> No.26728109

>>26728016
>become stateless
>start committing a bunch of crimes
>they can't expatriate you
>your crime always become someone else's problem

>> No.26728203

>>26727946
Mori has it easy in terms of monetizing her roommate and Ina/Sana already have full time jobs outside Hololive. But what those with inactive roommates? Are they just doomed to have all their finances go through YouTube and Cover? What would the best cut be within that framework?

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26728278

>>26727143
Wasn't it established last thread that Mori is either lying through her teeth or getting scammed since the US has double taxation treaties with Japan, and apparently individual laws that protect her entirely for up to 100k?
If anyone gets fucked it's Kiara, who's established she pays the most in taxes out of EN or any Holo she's asked, if Mori really is getting 7/100 for whatever reason (probably being retarded) then Kiara is getting 6 or less.

>> No.26728350

>>26726874
whoever made this doesnt know how taxes work

>> No.26728374

>>26728278
She's lying through omission, see >>26727204

>> No.26728382

>>26728203
>inactive roommates
who give a shit, they are still making at least 6 figures a year.

>> No.26728533

>>26728350
>whoever made this
She said she pays 80% in taxes so I put 80% in the graph.

>> No.26728609

>>26727393
She bought a house in Texas during one of her previous US visits which is why she's planning to live in the US again. She told her stream today that there was a high chance she would move back to the states.

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26728691

>>26726874
that akasupa was just enough for a 12 pack.

>> No.26728737

>>26728374
Yeah but she's also lying outright when she complains that there are no treaties. There ARE taxation treaties between the US and JP.

>> No.26728821

>>26727051
it's not even about Hololive, all corporate vtuber outfits take a similar cut, and youtube is the same for everyone. Vshoujo is the only one that doesn't take a cut of donations.

>> No.26728822

>>26728737
>lying
If a mentally disabled person tells you the sky is green, do you consider it "lying" or does it become something else?

>> No.26728826

>>26728691
THE ONE WHO SENT IT KNEW ABOUT THIS ALL ALONG
IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB
MAYBE EVEN BY MORI HERSELF

>> No.26728854

>>26728737
Who knows. Knowing her she might actually believe she's fucking poor. Would explain why she always implied it when telling stories about her past jobs and then casually dropped that she learned to drive in a ferrari onstream.

>> No.26728914

>>26727957
You're generally not allowed to give up your citizenship if you don't have another citizenship to replace it with.

>> No.26728997

>>26728382
Sure, but the value of 6 figures varies wildly depending on what area you live and what kind of housing you live in. They make enough to live comfortably at the moment, but if they spend like retards or don't find a way to secure income after Hololive, even a million dollars won't save them in the long term. Especially in the stagflationary hell we're living through right now.

>> No.26729022

>>26726874
Jesus Christ

>>26727204
>get taxed by a country you don't even live in
That's worth whining about, what a fucking scam.

>> No.26729035

>>26728854
she did grow up poor. her grandparents were rich and cut her mom off and did the classic narcissist move of using money to try and drive a wedge between their daughter/granddaughter. she didn't even have an allowance as a teen and has always had a job since she was in high school

she is well aware of how well off and lucky she is now and has talked about it repeatedly

>> No.26729101

>>26729022
You're paying for the benefit of maintaining your citizenship. You can always renounce it.

>> No.26729159

>>26729101
>get taxed for something that costs the government exactly $0 to maintain

>> No.26729234
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26729234

>>26728854
>>26728997
sounds like the type that just has no concept of long term savings and spends 105% of their income.

>> No.26729263

>>26727707
They get the biggest cut out of merch.

>> No.26729336

>>26726874
>Stop sending superchats to Mori, you're literally pissing your money away
That would be true even if Mori received 100%

>> No.26729337

>>26727707
if there's a roommate you can give money to, do that

then merch

>> No.26729455

>>26726874
How much of her membership is she getting though?

>> No.26729588

>>26729035
>she is well aware of how well off and lucky she is now and has talked about it repeatedly
>says this in a thread about a video where she complains about having to pay taxes
I bet she fucking voted for people that were in favor of raising taxes until last year.

>> No.26729628

>>26729455
If neither Cover nor Youtube touch a single cent, at most 20%.

>> No.26729644

>>26729588
Aren't most vtubers just dumb millenials who vote for the "current year" candidate?
>celebrities
>having a brain

>> No.26729653

>>26727707
I was going to say direct donations through whatever third-party site they use but it looks like Hololive doesn't do that.

For anyone else though, definitely that.

>> No.26729684

>>26728533
>I'm trying to go viral with a bullshit infographic I didn't fact check because that would get in the way of the click bait
you're everything wrong with the news and deserve the rope.

>> No.26729720

>>26729455
Roughly the same rate. Might be 5% different one way or the other but it's in the same ballpark. Merch has a better cut, and self-funded merch even better, but we don't know the percentages for those. They can also renegotiate their contract, for example someone like Coco or Rushia would take more points on SC income on their 2nd contract. Someone like Pekora might take a better cut for merch, Gura for memberships, or Suisei for her music sales.

>> No.26729777

>>26729684
She said that's what she pays, though. Her. The person the graph is about. Do you know a better source about Mori than Mori herself?

>> No.26729789

>>26729234
Considering how she flashes her spending habits like some football player who just got a nice contract, it wouldn't be surprising.
I think she mentioned spending at least $10k in uber eats alone last year.

>> No.26729792

>>26729777
How about the fucking IRS. >>26727204

>> No.26729817

>>26726874
My money became health care or education fund in Japan...

Not bad at all

>> No.26729821

>>26729684
Also just because I made a nice graph to share with you guys doesn't mean I'm trying to go viral, wtf.

>> No.26729832

>>26729792
its very easy to get owned on taxes if you're a dumbass, which mori is. its way more likely to me that she's a moron than lying lol

>> No.26729864

>>26729792
That sounds like something you should bring up with Mori, not with me anon.

>> No.26729884

>>26729588
Mori (and Ame) are both very libertarian so I doubt that. Kiara's the one that found out the hard way it's not as fun being on the other end of someone redistribution scheme. Ina and Gura haven't shown themselves to care too much about money or tipped their hand on their political leanings, but who knows how they really feel about it. Council and IRyS are still in the "woah I make a lot more than I used to phase" and not hit the "oh fuck everyone wants to take all my money" realization yet.

>> No.26729934

>>26729832
Technically she's not lying, she's just omitting that she's not getting double taxed on a large portion of her income because it would make her look bad.

>> No.26730102

>>26729588
If she voted for either of the major parties, it didn't matter which one she picked at the federal level, the current fiscal policy would have been implemented either way. The state and local level might have made a difference depending on where she lives.

>> No.26730118

>>26729864
>>26729821
oh god you're the type that believes in wacko conspiracy theories just because some internet personality talked about it and then tries to rope in anyone else that will listen to you.
hopefully you don't have any friends that have to put up with you.

>> No.26730200

>>26730102
It never matters what one person does. You can skip every election in your lifetime or vote in every one without altering the outcome even once.

>> No.26730368

>>26730118
What's the conspiracy theory here? That Mori is too retarded to file her taxes properly and has been paying double the amount she should?

>> No.26730580

>>26730368
as a deadbeat the second she mentioned taxes i knew she was fucking something up because she's mori

>> No.26730659

>>26730118
Did you actually mean to reply to these posts?

>> No.26731014

>>26730580
Please remind the anons how she almost ended up paying luxury prices for an apartment on accident.

>> No.26731536

>>26729159
except for the billions spent on embassies and international relations that's used to bail out US citizens when they get into hot water abroad.

>> No.26732433

>>26729934
>Technically she's not lying
nah, she's explicitly lying when she says there's no treaty. even the best interpretation is that it doesn't apply to her for some reason but she's giving her viewers bad information.
she clearly has no idea what she's talking about when she says she's not sure if America has tax brackets. and then keeps spouting out ridiculous numbers because "it's the truth".

>> No.26732454

>>26731536
I WAS BORN on the motherfucking country, I have my fucking RIGHT to be a fucking US CITIZEN by mere notion of being one. I should be fucking able to KEEP that shit whenever ago and NOT PAY for my BIRTH RIGHT a single penny to bullshit politicians and govt kidnappers.

>> No.26732488

>>26731536
Take it from the military budget.
We can pay for so, so much more than we are.

>> No.26732528

>>26727051
It's a subtle operation to Defund Mori

>> No.26733835

do cuckbeats really believe this?

>> No.26734019

>>26726874
I can't believe my tax rrat has turned out so right.

>> No.26734025

There are stupid people who actually believe this lol

Yeah bro, mori is struggling to afford food. Keep donating!

>> No.26734150

>>26731536
Governmentcucks defending the various ways the government dicks down its citizens.

>> No.26734263

>Making shit up for pity superchat
Sasuga wigger

>> No.26734311

>>26726874
>stop sending your oshi money so she can get even less money!
ok retard

>> No.26734418

>>26726942
you're a cuck
so is anyone donating to mori, but you for saying theft is a good thing

>> No.26734435

>>26734263
kek this

>> No.26734449

Fact 1) Cover does not actually take 50% of the vtuber's earnings. It's more like 30% or less.
Fact 2) Mori is NOT paying double taxes on her income. If you believe that you're incredibly stupid.
Fact 3) Superchat is less than 10% of Mori's income. The rest of her income gives nothing to Youtube.

>> No.26734723

gosh i love paying taxes to the gov so that they can send weapons to ukraine and kill some vatnik with my money, unironically

>> No.26734803

>>26726874
Based I've never thought about it but I work for Raytheon so a very small amount of everyone's superchat goes to me via taxes

>> No.26734996

new rrat - Mori has to pay yakuza tax so she's not thrown into jail for lean abuse or her bf is using all her money for his shitty band

>> No.26735287

>>26727204
Good. Now cite the Japanese part of the law

>> No.26735491

>>26731536
>bail out
She doesn't work for the CIA, so that won't happen

>> No.26735604

>>26735287
The fuck are you even asking? It's completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

>> No.26735606

>>26734025
What if she isn't being malicious but just retarded?

>> No.26735657

>>26728997
They're remote workers, they can live literally anywhere (probably without moving countries). They can find cheap housing.

>> No.26735671

>>26735606
Being completely delusional and believing she's not wealthy isn't any better. One might argue it's even worse.

>> No.26735691

>>26734449
>Source?
>Source?
>Source? This one also sounds false

>> No.26735965

>>26735671
But where did she say she isn't wealthy?

>> No.26736020

>>26735965
In OPs video.

>> No.26736391

>>26729234
People that make 6 figures that complain about living paycheck to paycheck are so cringe,

>> No.26736512

This is where gooba is a cunning business woman with superior membership, vod ad revenue, and frequent sponsorship, she didnt give a shit to SC number and liveviewer due to this fact alone, she already knew how JewTube algo works

>> No.26736589

>>26728822
Who Cares She Is Fat & A Wigger Weeb

>> No.26736596

>>26736020
I watched it and she only said that she isn't millionaire which is true. Sure she is wealthy but not that much.

>> No.26736694

Can't Mori just hide her income in a corporation? That is how every doctor I've talked to dodges taxes.

>> No.26736724

>>26726874
>merch sales is a way to support your oshi
Feels great to be a chumbies

>> No.26736780

>>26736391
To be fair, people who do that are usually living in LA/SF/NY. So they're idiots.

>> No.26736796

>>26736596
Mori has a track record of lying to her colleagues faces, onstream. Never forget "I listened to it fifty times".
As pointed out in this thread, she didn't mention that a large portion of her income isn't double taxed. You'd have to be a fool to believe anything coming out of her mouth.

>> No.26736798

>>26735691
>This one also sounds false
10% might be an exageration by that anon. But it's true that Mori has several of income sources. I can think of spotify right of the bat, she must earn something with her songs. Also, there are everything her roommate earns that are not associate with Cover whatsoever.

>> No.26736976

>>26736796
But like I said you are saying she is being malicious but what if it is just her being retarded with taxes and that is why she is getting fucked in the ass by taxes. I would not be surprised.

>> No.26737162

>>26736391
>Cringe is Like... My brand

>> No.26737224

>>26727228
heh

>> No.26737255

>>26726942
so when will calli review the f-22?

>> No.26737430

>>26727464
eh, there'd be a higher than average number. I count among it, and am likely wealthier than any holo past or present.

>> No.26738213

>>26729884
I don't think you know what very libertarian is, I'm very libertarian.

>> No.26738365

>>26726874
She doesn't pay double taxes. You'e retarded. She very likely pays about 35-40% in tax depending on how much she makes in the states and how much is from her activities while she is in Japan. That makes her cut 21-22.75% after taxes.

>> No.26738568

>>26738365
Are you saying she's lying about it?

>> No.26738632

>>26738568
I think she is being scammed.

>> No.26739320

>>26738568
He's not, but I am, your dear Mori and her extended autism spectrum is a lying and hypocrite cunt.

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26739676

>>26726874
This actually explains why we live in a system of Techno-Feudalism. Mori is producing a service that's not economically productive, but it's extremely profitable because of donations from people who do more productive works. And ultimately most of that profit ends up in the hands of megacorporations, megabanks, and governments who in turn subsidize corporations and rich people. The system funnels money from workers into the hands of the elites.

>> No.26739786

>>26732454
You are not owed anything, retard. In fact many see being born in a country, into a citizenship like something they never asked for.

>> No.26739806

>>26735604
She has to obey 2 laws not just 1

>> No.26739908

>>26729792
Whats IRyS got to do with taxes?

>> No.26739928

>>26729035
People who grow up poor retain that mentality for life, even if they become wealthy down the line.

>> No.26739975

>>26739676
A cuckbeat that makes sense? Unheard of.
But yeah, by all means tax the hell out of vtubers that sit on their asses for a few hours and make over 6 figures after tax.
It's only fair.

>> No.26739991

>>26729588
I read somewhere that the only thing that distinguishes most Republican voters is that they want to pay less taxes. All the culture war stuff is set dressing.

>> No.26740034

>>26729035
>Ah you see she was only poor until 16, then she was not.
>That counts!
Fuck off.

>> No.26740077

>>26739908
IRyS was smart enough to see an accountant so she could get her taxes done after her first big merch sale. Dunne if mori did a similar thing back when she had hers.
Cover will send then a big pile of cash after the merch is sold so taxes probably work differently for those transactions.

>> No.26740176

>>26740034
The point is that she wasn't rich when she was a kid.

>> No.26740260

>>26740176
Your mentality isn't set in stone until you're past your mid 20s, poorfag mentality can be overriden easily during her teens. Her being poor as a kid doesn't change anything.

>> No.26740333

>>26740260
That mentality is set at the womb tho.

>> No.26740381

>>26740176
If anything she should've learned to be humble, to be sincere and to be grateful for what you have. Not some entitled little prick that lies to people to their faces and whines when they see through her skit.

>> No.26740418

>>26740333
>mamamori was banging black dudes while she was pregnant
That'd make a whole lot of sense.

>> No.26740567

>>26740260
>poorfag mentality can be overriden easily during her teens
Sure but a lot people never grow out of that phase.
>>26740381
>Not some entitled little prick that lies to people to their faces and whines when they see through her skit
What did you except from woman that comes here?

>> No.26740947

>>26726874
this just makes me want to donate more. I hate Mori so much that I want her to know that I want faceless corporate fucks to have my money more than her, and that she gets nothing but the scraps.

>> No.26741409

Fuck. If she moves to Texas i wont be able catch her streams, expet if i work nightshifts. First Luka now Mori. Fuck.

>> No.26741496

>>26726874
>Lockheed Martin & various other U.S. DoD contracts
Oh sweet. How do I donate to this directly?

>> No.26741508

sneed more faggot

>> No.26741601

>>26727394
She probably watches people like Hasan and thinks "he has what i should be getting so therefore I'm impoverished"

>> No.26741674

>>26739676
The difference is that she has a choice not to participate in that job, unlike serfs who get exiled or killed if they dont work.

>> No.26741683

>>26728374
any sensible entertainer realizes they've got like 3-5 years to make their fortune. Getting taxed 80% past 100k is basically rape to the her of a few years away from now
you'd understand the pain if you weren't a poorfag. plus being a millionaire is not even that really rich

>> No.26741744

>>26741496
just buy their stock bro, they get financial benefits and you get to keep the wealth

>> No.26741806

>>26741744
I actually have stock in Raytheon and several other minority bombing enterprises

>> No.26741828

>>26727394
>she keeps lying about not being wealthy
But she doesn't. She just says that she isn't multi millionare

>> No.26741889

>>26741683
>being a millionaire is not even that really rich
If you spend it immediately like a retard, yes. Otherwise lol lmao

>> No.26741943

>>26741889
>If you spend it immediately like a retard, yes
Knowing Mori she probably does.

>> No.26741958

>>26741889
I live in Toronto. You could be a millionaire and still not afford a decent house here.

>> No.26741965

>>26741889
where I live that gets you like a pretty nice cardboard mcmansion in a low crime zipcode

>> No.26742008

>>26741806
Based retard

>> No.26742048

>>26726874
cover and youtube pays the government taxes too if you want to be accurate

>> No.26742076

>>26741958
>Toronto
1 million will buy you an application to suck the nearest chang's feet.

>> No.26742248

>>26742076
Changs apply to suck my cock actually. Owning high end student housing around UofT is a killer business ;)

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26742449

>>26742248

>> No.26742598

>>26727204
She will stream from Monaco or the Cayman Island to dodge taxes soon

>> No.26742987

In this thread we can see a bunch of idiots who don't know how taxes work and will believe lies that get told to them because it was from an anime girl

>> No.26743070

>>26742987
have fun being poor nigger lmao

>> No.26743292

>>26728997
>the stagflationary hell we're living through right now.
So maybe it's better to worry about yourself then. Them bitches is gonna be fine.

>> No.26743293

>>26727204
That's only about the yearly income of a well paid programmer, anon.

>> No.26743350

>>26726874
time to supachat some more, baby

>> No.26743434

>>26741674
The system is rigged so you end up anywhere and be part of it. Being an entertainer is not worse than being a PMC or an investor. And if you are a productive worker you are just gonna end up screwed anyway.

>> No.26743627

>>26740034
Seethe more, poornigger
>>26740947
Why are deadbeats like this?

>> No.26743720

>>26743434
She is a successful indie, even before hololive. If she wasnt making good money in holo, she wouldnt be there because she has other options that do not make her suffer cuts to her bottom line. Therefore she is clearly making good money and not being fully honest to you about it. Sure she gets cut on superchats but notice how she doesnt include music sales, merch sales, sponsorships, ad revenue, or any other revenue stream. Nobody is holding a gun to her head to work for hololive, especially because she actively earns money elsewhere.

>> No.26743840

>>26743720
Indies are employees of Amazon and Google that can be terminated at any moment for any given reason. Working off Cover actually gives her a layer of protection.

>> No.26743889

>>26743840
Not really considering by your logic cover can get terminated at any moment for any given reason

>> No.26743935

>>26740947
CORPO MONEY FOR COVER

>> No.26744092

>>26743889
At which point you join VShojo.

>> No.26744270

>>26729653
Only hololiveID who use 3rd party donation site, Streamlabs and Sociabuzz,

>> No.26744683
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>Defending gubments because you hate Mori
I'm sure you antis are the real cucks for surrendering the fruits of your labor to leeches

>> No.26745233

>>26744683
More likely they are the leeches.

>> No.26745688

>>26744683
Honestly i live in a country where you don't have to worry about doing your taxes unless you make a lot of money, your employer is in charge of that so you just get the money after taxes. Which is most of it, 5% tax off your paycheck isn't bad at all.

>> No.26745745

>>26744683
I respect my government more than the absolute RETARDS living here, I wish someone would nuke us holy fuck

>> No.26745909

My greatest wish, is that she spends every penny she has gotten from Hololive, spends it on retarded wigger mentality shit (fast car, nice house, shit for friends/family, etc) and then has a Rushia tier yab and gets canned.

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>>26745745
based fellow poor hater

>> No.26745941

>>26736798
>I can think of spotify right of the bat, she must earn something with her songs
lmfao the money understander is here

>> No.26745943

>>26745688
what kind of irrelevant shithole do you live in where it's possible to be taxed only 5% other than by making peanuts while living in poverty?

much love and sincerest regards

>> No.26746682

>>26726874
The taxes taken from your wages should show, in percentages, what that money is being used on.

>> No.26747239

>>26726874
Imagine being so retarded that you allow yourself to be double taxed when a treaty exists specifically allowing you get out of it.
Retardiope Whori needs to talk to a US specializing tax accountant in Japan.

>> No.26747440

>>26732454
You have no rights zogbot. You are property and never forget it. Now forget this "rights" nonsense and continue shoving that numbing goyslop down your fat gullet.

>> No.26747553

>>26747239
she probably goes but keeps forgetting to bring her 'tism stamp

>> No.26747727

You're assuming people give money only for pure profit to the vtuber though. Money is also used to commission artists for songs, wallpapers, assets, other content and other expenses. Those are considered expenses and thus are paid before taxes. Vtubers can optimize their expenses so their actual taxable profit is minimal. I bet Patra put in her 700000USD ASMR studio as an expense to not get taxed on that money.

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26748032

I'm glad other people are calling bs on the tax shit considering Japan and the US have a tax treaty. I've been away from /vt/ but I was pissed off when I saw the clip of her talking about it. Literally lying through her teeth.

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>>26748032
She keeps on digging her own grave.

>> No.26748622

>>26732454
Rights carry responsibilities so that they can be maintained. Shit doesn't just fall out of the sky.

>> No.26748808

>>26748032
How do you know she isn't that retarded and never knew about it? Would you really put it past her being that retarded?

>> No.26748906

>>26748808
NTA but she was a member of the JET program for years, aka her "scythe swinging lessons", and they literally hold your hand through this shit.

>> No.26749095

>>26748906
Okay but what about if she is doing something wrong with filing taxes? I don't believe she is being malicious.

>> No.26749117

>>26726874
wow it's almost like they're doing merch stuff for a reason!

>> No.26749122

test

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>>26749095
>has a literal history of lying about the most petty of shit

>> No.26749198

>>26749095
Then she has crossed the threshold in the pits of Dipshittery beyond the far borders of Retardland, forever doomed to its pitch-black depths. There is no fucking way a person in their right mind without any extremely debilitating cognitive disease would think 80% is the right tax cut after being walked through on loopholes years ago

>> No.26749259

>>26749137
So has history of being retarded with shit like this.

>> No.26749300

>>26749198
I mean I don't know. Well she is still moving back to America.

>> No.26749308

>>26727521
>>26727595
>>26727773
>tech
>IT
But will you be able to keep your salaries 20 years away from now? Or will you become a poorfag? If not, can you really be considered wealthy?

>> No.26749374

>>26749308
This is exactly why I've given up on the "find a job that you love" crap. I'm going for a job with security

>> No.26749421

>>26749374
What do you mean? Is IT job the job with security you're talking about?

>> No.26749467

>>26749421
No, I'm going into accounting
And the people who are currently writing a reply that it will be automated, you know nothing about accounting

>> No.26749473

>>26749421
the answer is unironically yes

>> No.26749523

>>26749467
>spoiler
I don't even know what do people do on accounting jobs
>>26749473
How long do you think that security will last?

>> No.26749585

>>26734418
>hates Mori
>Libertarian
You're half-decent.

>> No.26750045

>>26726874
ok but who made this picture? it looks suspiciously corporate.

>> No.26750190

>>26726874
anyone got sauce of mori background pic there?

>> No.26750298

Mori lied to manipulate the deadbeats into donating more, and they'll fall for it of course. This is the hustle. I've already seen deadbeats trying to convince people that she's actually poor and makes next to nothing etc so her methods are evidently effective.

>> No.26750318

>>26726874
Ah yes percentages, famously the thing that you always *add* together

>> No.26750603

>>26750190
Found it. I wanted it too, cute Mori.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89594806

>> No.26750713

>>26749259
In mori's case the saying "never attribute to malicethat which is explained by stupidity" applies backwards. After all the shit she is done one can infer she is being malicious.

>> No.26750748

>>26750713
Proof other than the dream you had?

>> No.26750842

>>26750713
I disagree, but may I ask why do you think that?

>> No.26750887

>>26750842
NTA but it's not a stretch considering Mori literally uses hololive as a way to exploit vtuber fans to "make it" with her RM's career

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>>26750748
>>26750842
She hates hololive and is an ironic weeb.

>> No.26750962

>>26750887
Well maybe those vtuber fans should tell her by not supporting her roommate.

>> No.26751018

>>26750929
>hates hololive
True
>ironic weeb
No. She's definitely an autistic weeb

>> No.26751030

>>26750748
>>26750842
Explain the lies about petty shit like bloodborne and kiara's "king cover".

>> No.26751042

>>26750929
>She hates hololive
Hate is a strong word here in my opinion. She just dislikes some aspects of it like the permission bullshit.

>> No.26751102

>>26751030
But are those malicious lies? I admit that she should have just said from the begging that she beat BB one time and mostly likes the aesthetics of it.

>> No.26751105

Did anyone catch that she had to play Quarry during the day because her lamp is busted?

How poor is she? She can't even afford a lightbulb. How do we save her?

>> No.26751197

>>26751102
They're malicious on account that she's a fucking adult telling "my dad works at nintendo" tier lies. I am not surprised that she told stories about being shunned in highschool and college if she didn't grow out of that by the time she was 12.

>> No.26751404

>>26751197
>I am not surprised that she told stories about being shunned in highschool and college
To be fair, it was more than just shunning from the groups but I get your point.

>> No.26751759

>>26750713
Malicious implies intent. Odds are Mori just doesnt care about the truth, only wants to entertain people, and therefore will just say whatever she thinks most people want to hear at any given point in time.

>> No.26751989

>>26751105
Anon she pays 110% of her income in taxes. She works for Cover as a legal slave because they own her physical body and spiritual soul as collateral until she pays off her exponentially increasing nip-dept

>> No.26752602

Sent Mori an akasupa just now.

>> No.26752743

80% doesn't sound quite right. Surely the IRS can be alerted and they can find a way to get more from Ms. Moneybags.

>> No.26752971

>>26751759
That’s still lying by omission, maybe without malicious intent, but with a clear message and effect on the audience
Ultimately she is a turbojew when it comes to money and donations and just because she is emotionally impaired doesn’t mean she is sooo dumb and pays double taxes like many claim in her defense

>> No.26753121

>>26752971
>she is a turbojew when it comes to money and donations
I would have said that months ago but when half of her streams like 2 and 3 months ago were just ER she didn't seem to find it bad not making money while streaming and she also doesn't like the gift memberships.

>> No.26756332 [DELETED] 

>>26726874
In the very worst case she would get $26 and pay $21 in taxes, assuming we only look at her earnings over 40m yen a year, an already high amount of income, AND she does absolutely nothing to optimise tax efficiency such as contributing to a pension.

I would show my numbers but you guys are probably too dumb to understand xD

>> No.26756732

>>26727946
You could mail precious metal coins or bullion instead, not only that is unlikely to get confiscated, but your oshi probably would save it, instead of spending the cash on something stupid, which would be a good financial decision for her.

>> No.26757014

>>26727204
I'm not even a $100,000aire and I bitch about how much gets taken out of my check. It's very relatable to see someone become successful and bitch about how hard they get fucked.

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