/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>26716340
what a scumbag, trying to milk her viewers even more. as if she didn't do that enough with her 'aka chad' baiting and roommate shit

BUILT

FOR

ASIAN DICK

>>26716340
>Americans have to pay taxes to America despite not living in America

>>26716376
I just thought it was interesting how much she gets ripped off by two governments and how much money chuubas is a common topic here, calm down.

>>26716340
why do you think the music industry is the number one copyright beast today?

this is also why merch is a better way to support them if you don't have that much dough

>>26716490

theyre not ultra rich but theyre definitely "U.S. specialty-doctor-tier" money

>>26716340
Coco had to do the same, but no one believed me.

Imagine being taxed twice in a country with a tax treaty to prevent just that.

>>26716340
She gets more out of her 20% than I get from a decade of hard work.

>>26716340
Mori should hire an international accountant. US and JP has some kind of shared tax shit that lowers the amount.

>Mori claims she pays 80% in taxes
She needs to learn how to budget, 20% of her income goes to Big Macs alone.

>>26716340
Double taxation is a bitch, yeah.
But how much does Kiara pay in taxes, then...? She said Austria's where the highest out of any Holo'd she'd asked.

>>26716340
If she doesn't like paying that then she should fuck off back to burgerland

>>26716581
Try 3 fucking decades and she only been on this for 2 years.

>>26716340
There is a literal fucking treaty between the US and Japan to prevent double taxation of expats from both countries.
Should consult an actual tax lawyer who specializes in the US Japan tax treaty than whatever retard told her to pay in both countries

https://www.taxesforexpats.com/country_guides/japan/us-tax-preparation-in-japan.html

She needs to just ask Kson for a connection to her accountant. He obviously has experience structuring things for her exact situation.

>>26716610
this and she makes more than probably 95% of the worlds population

>2022
>millionaire
>not traveling yearly between 3 countries that have 0% tax if you only stay less than 6 months/year

>>26716597
You wish. It goes to whiskey.

>>26716652
Have you considered that she's just lying?

>>26716340
>gets upset about being fucked in the ass by taxes
>still votes for high taxes and doesn't just be like Ame and Gura and refuse to pay taxes

>>26716752
I can believe Mori is retarded enough to let herself get double taxed.

>>26716685
That's trivial, the top 1% of the world isn't even 1 million USD net worth.

>>26716340
sounds retarded. she should hire a fucking accountant to help her with this. Paying 80% taxes is insane and the first thing she should have looked into and fixed

>26716752
Have you consider she doesn't know about this and is being swindled?

>>26716340
>double dips with her RM and hololive
>gets double dipped by the IRS and the NTA
balance

>>26716340
the top tax bracket in the USA is at like $540,000. So she is making that much post cover stealing her money.

>>26716340
tax the rich nigga

>>26716340
Doesn't the US have a double taxation agreement with Japan? Mori needs a better accountant, she should only be paying the excess of what she would be paying if she was residing in the US, which is nothing because Japan has higher tax rates for foreigners.

>>26716563
doesnt she and IRyS still live in nipland?

>>26716557
>get paid really well for being Gura
>still live in abject poverty because you are a jew and your jew nature refuses to let you spend money on things like actual food
>also be Gura and buy an expensive chair and then don't use it and use an ethot chair that hurts your back because you want to know what it is like to be an ethot

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/figuring-the-foreign-earned-income-exclusion

>The maximum foreign earned income exclusion amount is adjusted annually for inflation

GET FUCKED AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>mfw my friend who is a hardcore dem anti trumper moved to japan
>mfw his social media posts 9 months later when he found out he still had to pay both USA taxes and state taxes ontop of the jap taxes

>>26716597
>an adult woman who knows she will be on camera dressed like that

>>26717010
The US is literally giving it's tax payers money in weapons to a jew.

>>26717157
See, I am fine with the tax rate on anyone who isn't me being as high as possible, as long as the tax isn't on me and I don't have to pay it directly or indirectly. I am against tax money going to israel or the poors because all tax money should benefit me specifically

i'll be mori's accountant if i get to keep half of the tax savings

>>26717010
She celebrates Christmas. She's not Jewish

>>26717148
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH BODY POSITIVE IS A GREAT THING. YEAH

>>26716340
Please go fuck right off to burgerland whori.
I refuse to see you do an off Collab with another HoloJP...

>>26717440
Nice cock!

>>26716609
55%

>>26716340
mori is just a dumb youtuber dude this is how they all are, I work as a cpa at studio71, one of the bigger youtube networks, these retards have no clue how to defer any of their taxes. There are ways as a US citizen that you can set up certain things to prevent this from happening, holy fuck you would think cover would have some competent accounts but then again corporate Japan is 30 years behind the rest of the world.

>>26717260
don't worry bro in the upcoming recession we will bailout the giant companies again! fuck the unemployed though, lol!

haachama evades tax

>>26716652
She's talking about her YouTube earnings, isn't she? Doesn't google discount the double taxation automatically?
So on top of there actually being a treaty I don't know what she's paying 80% for but it really shouldn't be double taxes.

>>26717102
>acting like a normie faggot about which American political party will make your taxes lower/higher
Why? Post unfunny shit on Facebook.

>>26717549
Eh she got another 1.5M. She'll be fine.

>>26716340
>Be mori
>Make more in one stream than I do in a month
>waaaahhh I only made $20,000 this week

>>26717615
i think she's just lazy/busy or her accountant is screwing her over, if she has one.
>>26717587
being married also helps with the cuts, even more if you have kids.

>>26717610
Imma say Haato probably don't tho

>>26717651

well never know how much they actually make but they can do whatever they want anyways so its not lkike it matters

>>26716340
She could fix this by fully integrating into japan and applying for citizenship. But one of the requirements for citizenship is being JLPT N1 fluent so best start hitting those nihongo reps girl. But yup mori as a still american citizen has to pay the US government taxes. On top of that mori as a foreign visa holder in japan will also still have to pay japan there taxes as well. But if she went after japanese citizenship she wouldn't have to double pay taxes anymore she would only have to pay the japanese government.

Does universal pay for her music shit these days?
Because as an independent musician it would make sense, she likely spends way more than she earns, especially when Cover does nothing but gets the bulk of "Mori" music earnings.

>>26716873
its far more likely shes just lying

>>26717615
Doesnt she just mean from the youtube totals?
33% goes to youtube, 33% goes to cover, and if you take off another 13% for taxes and whatever that leaves her with 20% of the youtube money which makes sense, no?

>>26717762
my bet is on she doesn't even have a real qualified accountant, most of these ppl are getting raped on taxes or use shady ass accountants who do hollywood accounting and just siphon money from you

>>26717368
then why does she eat pizza that has been sitting out for days because she doesn't want to just buy new pizza?
There are jews who celebrate Christmas. Gura celebrates Christmas because she is celebrating kiking the goy out of their money over the holidays.

>>26716340
Sounds like she needs to hire an accountant to go through her taxes with her.

>>26716340
This seems like bullshit I'm pretty sure there's already a tax treaty between Japan and USA cause USA has one with practically all western cunts where whatever tax you pay to your host nation is subtracted from what you gotta pay uncle sam as a deduction

>>26716340
>be Mori, a dumb cunt
>move to the other side of the planet chasing some retarded dream
>don't read up on relevant tax laws
>get fucked in the ass
Sasuga

>>26717652
trump literally cut my taxes and now they are up under the commies. It is why Ame is pro trump. yago just set up Ame's birthday as 1/6 to give her an alibi for when she tried to take the capital

liar liar desecucks pants on fire

>>26717826
the mainstream music industry has more downsides than up for an artist.

>>26716889
And then coughing up 80 percent of that. So she's making probably 100 to 200k tops. She badly needs a US accountant to show her how to hide her money properly

Mods are sleeping.

>>26718047
Especially for Mori who already has a financial foundation already. Unless you want to use their name or assets that universal has.

>>26718043
She could just be a moron.

I'm curious what poor expats do for their taxes, I imagine JET teachers can't afford expensive accountants.

>>26717929
Pretty much but this gets a lot of foreigners in trouble because they are never told about it. Its just one of those things your expected to already know about. Before you immigrate to japan from the usa and i lost count how many people this fucked or almost fucked in the ass.

>>26716376
Lol

>>26717652
Go back to r3ddit if that triggered you so much.
>normie
It's normalfag. We say no-no words here, redditor.

OK and??

>>26718043
Both governments will happily take her money if she's too stupid to know about this. This is why people hire accountants.

>>26716752
don't attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.

>>26717867
I might be wrong, shitposting doesn't pay so I've only ever gotten like 200 bucks from YouTube, but from what I've noticed the 30% YT cut is taken before before they even show you your revenue, then from that total, when they make the deposit they automatically take a tax cut which explicitly accounts for double taxation.
I don't know what taxes Mori has to file for on her own, but even ignoring the treaty something sounds fucky.

>>26718160
>I'm curious what poor expats do for their taxes, I imagine JET teachers can't afford expensive accountants.
It's not that complex you write off what you paid to the japs it's that simple

>>26716596
This. Mori needs hebrew or hebrew accessories.

>>26717982
Least schizophrenic teamate

>>26716340
it's been said but chist, she's making 6 figures in two countries and hasn't bothered to consult an accountant.
I bet she got absolutely shit on in that contract she signed with Universal Music because she didn't hire a lawyer.

Mori is a textbook example of work harder not smarter so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if she lets herself get fucked over without question because taxes and money managing isn't one of the stupidly fun things where you don't have to think much and still earn a shit load. If I was her tax accountant I would syphon the shit out of her earnings, if you're gonna be the rich and dumb type you're just asking to get taken advantage of.

>>26716340
She's retarded or she's getting scammed, Americans shouldn't pay taxes when living and working in a foreign entity.

>>26717010
>>26717157
>>26717368
>>26717889
>>26718305
>>>/pol/
Go back
>>>/pol/

>>26716340
As an American living abroad, either she's full of shit or she's an idiot. You need to FILE taxes with America, but as long as you submit proof that you're paying taxes in your country of residence, you don't owe them anything else.

>>26716667
His company is basically an accounting office for celebrities and companies in the entertainment industry. So yes he probably has a bunch of experience.
I think though that kson might actually have Japanese citizenship. She doesn't seem to have most of the problems foreigners complain about.

I think more just isn't a very smart person.

>>26716597
fat queen

>>26718805
I don't know about paying taxes but American citizens are required to file their taxes no matter where they live which is not how first-world countries operate. I've never once filled out my American taxes since I have the citizenship by legal loophole since birth but I also can't afford to get rid of my citizenship because they are the one country that doesn't want to allow you to leave because they want your taxes.

>>26717829
Morton fork applies.
Never assume malice when stupidity is a viable answer. And thats what you guys constantly say about her, that she's stupid, pathetic and autistic. But now she's this master class con artist? On something you were able to easily look up?

>>26716340
lol sure

>>26719082
Mori antis always opt for the most malicious option when given the choice,. They are as retarded as their oshi, even if they're being all tsundere about it.

>run for congress
>sneek amendment into bill that says vtubers who dont collab with males are exempt from federal income tax if they live abroad
>mfw

>>26719082
youtubers and streamers lie about how poor they are all time. youre a lolcow if you think otherwise

Mori is lucky too, if she didnt live in texas she would be paying SALT too
>>26718305
she has gura

mori also lies about how poor she is all the time so take everything with a grain of salt

>>26718805
>Americans shouldn't pay taxes when living and working in a foreign entity.
this isnt true
>>26718855
fuck off gura

Her saying she’s in the top tax bracket is the most forthcoming the ENs have been about money

Granted it’s not surprising at all and she’s probably the biggest holo earner

>>26716340
As a reluctant tax-payer in Burgerland, all i can say is
You have to talk to the right people to get as close to 0 taxes payed and near 2-3k return. If you walk into H&R block or use Turbotax, you're already fucked
Japan from what i've heard, fucking LOVES gaijin taxes since most westerners don't question anything

So in summary: Don't work the system in US + Don't question the system in JP = 80% taxes

>>26716340
Nah, she's definitely fucking up somewhere. The Americans I know that live in other countries for work don't have to pay taxes for both countries.

>>26718925
is irys a dual citizenship ?

>>26719082
>Never assume malice when stupidity is a viable answer.
Stupidity doesn't fuck me over in the grand scheme of things. It is better to take measures against malice even if it is not obvious.
Like how she and her rm used the drama to sell merch, that is obvious greed.

>>26719496
her saying shes in the top bracket also doesnt make me believe she pays 80% of her taxes

>>26718855
he's got a point tho

Amesame does not pay their taxes

>>26719697
Unironically it's very likely. Ame just emits the aura of "I game the system" and Gura probably hired a top tier accountant

>>26719516
Americans get a large deduction for foreign income, I don't remember exactly but it's over $100k, so most Americans abroad won't have to pay any taxes unless they make a shitload of money. She definitely is fucking up though since Japan does have a bracket system. Her tax guy is probably scamming her.

>>26716340
She's not wrong, the IRS is shitty like this.

>>26718855
No.

>>26717010
Jews aren't miserly. They're just ethnically nepotistic.

>>26716340
no like millionares trick you into think they are way more poor then they really are. streamers pull this shit all the time

>>26719750
Leave it to Mori to work herself to death while all her "friends" leech.

>>26716810
ass to ass

There is foriegn tax credit right? If she pay more tax in JP, she shouldn't own IRS anything.

>>26719355
lol nice, add also that they must not drink to excess or do drugs.

>Death and taxes
Hehehe I finally understand that now.

>>26719355
Fed income tax is the least appealing "Deal" you could offer
Wipe property or income tax, give a tax break for homestead or something.

>>26720091
property tax is a state thing, not a federal thing

>>26719750
I see. I suppose that's something to keep in mind going forward.

>>26716340
>yaaaas I swear i'm so pooor you guysssss, fuck taxes, r-right? now please send akasupas, but fuck off with the text tho

You voted for him Mori, enjoy your demented President. We had a guy cutting taxes but he was mean and orange and whatnot

>>26716340
>I swear I'm poor, btw did I tell you the story about how I crashed my grandpa's Ferrari?

>>26720231
>no message, what a chad!

>>26716340
>but i have no idea how it works so i'm going to shut up
You shouldn't have made the thread at all then dickhead

Paying taxe to america do not lose citizenship is the most retarded thing i ever saw KEK
Do they really think japan or other country will keep their garbage when they do not have the right to stay anymore ?

>>26716597
Always looks like she wearing a trash bag, god just wear normal t shirt and pants Jesus.

>>26716597
That's my girl

>>26717982
>>26720330
>>26720091
>>26718378
>2022
>Retards STILL worship the orange jew

>>26716340
She was decent enough not to shit up the off colab so... good job Mori...

>>26716471
USA is based in citizenship, not residence. Wherever you are, as long as you want to be an AMERICAN CITIZEN, the strongest citizenship in the planet, you have to pay your taxes. It is not free. The greates country on the planet doesnt work for free. You ARE FREE to renounce to your american citizenship but we all know that aint worth it.

>>26717982
Ame is not pro Trump. She is a weeb woman, she hates him
>>26720823
We love jews now

Pippa hates all taxation and both the republicans and democrats

And of course a thread with the main topic being economics has once again devolved into a /pol/ shitfest.

On a fucking Mori thread of all places!

>>26720823
Fuck off Kiara.

>>26721213
>Hates Democrats
>Votes Democrat
>Registered Democrat
Kek Pippa keeping the grift alive

this is kind of like doing math with infinity. rich people will be rich even if they're taxed 80%. just think of elon musk for example. even if you burned literally 99.9% of his wealth he'd still have hundreds of millions of dollars. just think about how insane that is.

>>26720621
She is trying to hide her fat tits
Mori it is inevitable, I will see them one day

>>26716597
Easy on the carrots...

Mori's fucking retarded or her accountant is scamming her lol. You don't get double taxed as an American citizen working in Japan.

>First, an individual who is a bona fide resident of a foreign country or is physically outside the United States for an extended time is entitled to an exclusion (exemption) of part or all of their earned income (that is, personal service income, as distinguished from income from capital or investments). That exemption was $103,900 for 2018, pro-rated.[18] (See IRS form 2555.)

>Second, the United States allows a foreign tax credit by which income tax paid to foreign countries can be offset against U.S. income tax liability attributable to any foreign income not covered by this exclusion. The foreign tax credit is not allowed for tax paid on earned income that is excluded under the rules described in the preceding paragraph (i.e. no double dipping).[18]

So she literally doesn't have to pay any tax to the US that she already paid to Japan, which has a higher tax rate than the US. She also doesn't have to pay any tax on the first ~$100,000 she earns per year. She's either grossly misinformed or just milking her deadbraps for more donos.

>>26721668
>or just milking her deadbraps for more donos
That's what I believe. Deadbeats will swallow any sob story that fuels their fantasy of saving her and marrying/sexing/etc her.

>>26721668
Yup, I'm a CPA in California, and with foreign tax credits and exclusion, the only way you are paying US taxes while working in a foreign country is if you are getting taxed very little in the country AND making tons of money.

>>26721481
You can see them right now anon
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1533765426802569218

>>26716597
>somehow keeps getting fatter
what do we do when their software can’t track her face anymore

Mori lying?, no way, and the sun it hot?, and water is wet?

>>26721941
The software bugging out will be hilarious.

>>26716471
>eurofag gubmints are so cucked they don't tax overseas residents
lmao

This is Mori, I'm not sure if she's retarded and paying taxes twice (which the taxman will happily accept) or if she's fucking lying.
Both are possible considering her personality. I mean she's the only holo that has a fucking 25 bucks membership tier because she's a turbojew. Cuckbeats probably sent a few thousand dollars her way when she said this.

>>26716471
Lmao

>people making shit up about a clip they didn't even bother to watch
classic Mori thread

Didn't fucking Coco talk about this already

>>26722134 (me)
Actually nevermind, I forgot that she kept saying she was fucking poor and then one day busted out that story that she learned how to drive in a Ferrari and other stories about how loaded her parents are. She's fucking lying again probably.

She's going to move back to US and move to a state that has 30% tax rate.

>>26717591
As automation increases and re-opening highlights the irrelevance of certain positions, I think 5-10% total unemployment in the USA is perhaps necessary for a better economy.

>>26722297
She did, but most people here are newfags. They probably don't even know who Coco is

>>26722326
Then vote for people that will up the tax rate. And move to another state with low tax rate.

>>26722375
Like clockwork, sadly.

>>26721890
>>26721668
Likely she's listed in an industry/occupation that causes her to be categorized as a self-employed worker. At least from my experience from filing the taxes of some guy who does influencer shit on tiktok and instagram.

>>26716471
>not understanding how citizenship works
Imagine being this stupid

>>26717148
Ywnbaw

>>26722359
But when was the last time she went to Atlanta?

>>26716597
How the fuck can you even get fat in nipland.

>>26720934
Renouncing US citizenship is not free, it costs more than it does for any other country. People still do it.

A single google search says it might be mostly bullshit.

https://brighttax.com/blog/us-expat-taxes-americans-living-japan/

Based taxmen doubleteaming the brapwhore

>>26716940
Irys is from Hawaii, you could be born Hawaiian and still have a Nip passport.

maybe cover takes a shit ton and shes just posturing its double taxes

>>26722802
Kek.

>>26722700
Alcohol calories.

>>26716471
The price of freedom, baby

>>26716340
>>26719998
You just have to fill out a form and then you get a credit for all your international taxes. Mori shouldn't have to pay US taxes at all. Three possibilities:
>Mori is retarded, and is paying double the taxes that she needs to because she can't be bothered to understand basic tax instructions or hire an accountant
>Mori did hire an accountant, but he's scamming her like mad, taking like 40% of her income for himself and claiming "yeah sorry you gotta send all this to the IRS heh heh heh..."
>Mori is just lying so people won't stop sending akasupas because "why superchat the rich girl"

>>26720031
Wtf I love taxes now

>>26722700
Moshi moshi donarudo desu

>>26716596
A slip through system like the jews. Otherwise mutt jews can't make money

>>26722927
I'll take option 3.

>>26716597
It's been over 2 hours, why is this still up? Did no one report it?

>>26719612

>>26717826
She's not a golden goose for them, so no

>>26717982
America is not run by communists lol. Go outside.

>>26717087
That's only relevant for countries with lower taxes than the US, such that the foreign tax credit doesn't fully offset US taxes.

Japan has higher tax rates than the US federal government, so you shouldn't owe the US anything whether you're fully covered by the exclusion or not.

>>26721907
I HATE HER BUT SEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ABSOLUTE FUCKING SEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

>>26722570
Being self employed only means that you have to pay the employer portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes, and that you can also deduct business expenses related to your income. It doesn't make you pay "double taxes". You will file an IRS tax return that calculates your tax liability. You will also file a foreign tax credits form which shows how much taxes you paid to the Japanese govt. Dollar for dollar, you can reduce your US tax lability by how much you paid to Japan. Basically, what you pay to the US is the difference between your foreign tax liability and your US tax liability. In most cases, the taxes you paid to the foreign country is higher than your US tax liability, so you end up paying nothing to the IRS.

>>26716471
America hate thread LET'S GO

>>26719750
Wow Mori so generous she raises many leeches on her income and fame

1. Tax treaties
2. US only makes you pay, if there is no treaty in place, the amount you would have to pay in the US reduced by any taxes paid in the foreign country
People are so fucking retarded about taxes, I wouldn't be surprised if this dumbass was giving the IRS money for no reason

>>26720823
But jews hate him cuz he wasn't one of them

>>26719515
>Reluctant tax-payer
Fuck off with this shit

>>26721668
Must be her anituber "friends" introduced an accountant to her and they are milking her dry then took the money to live with vshojo women

>>26723445
Why do you think he married his daughter to a jew lol

>>26722134
Only 25$? Lmao Matsuri has 100$ tier and mike cat has 50$ tier

>>26716340
Yeah it was obvious that's why she set up a "base" in America. Also, I'm pretty sure it's one of the reasons for IRyS being depressed a bunch, IIRC she even mentioned it.
Tax is rough.

>>26723445
Didn't respect him you mean, they controlled him so they had no hatred for him. They literally own his most valuable possession (his daughter).

>>26721907
She's hiding them with the sign.

>>26722627
USA is basically the only country that does this though
>>26720934
I plan to renounce my citizenship once I move abroad

>>26724326
Lmao good riddance

>>26724326
No they aren't
Most countries do it off other metrics like residency, but almost every country taxes expats

What happens if I, an American citizen, move abroad, get settled down in another country, get a job, etc, and don’t pay taxes to the U.S.?

>>26720934
>the strongest citizenship in the planet
It's ranked as the 41st best in the world which is pretty shit. Even Slovenians have it better.

>>26724397
USA is so cucked its unreal. it's a female-dominated over-regulated low trust shithole of a society. good luck with vtubers though I hope your parasocial relationship works out

retarded wigger

>>26724632
They send navy seals to take you out, like they did to Bin Laden.
Alternatively, they have deals with most other countries, so they can just take money from your foreign bank account and get you arrested there.

>>26724632
you're truly free

>>26724698
What if I like being dominated by a female?

>>26724698
>good luck with vtubers though I hope your parasocial relationship works out
you're literally on a vtuber board

>>26724831

>>26723347
SEA

>>26716597
Fat?

>>26722906
the freedom to be forced to pay money to a government in a country you don't live in

>>26724933
Seethe, faggot.

>>26725110
Literally every country on the planet you uneducated, retarded yuroshit

>>26724632
They use their connections to ruin your life assuming you actually make enough money for it to be worth their while. Otherwise you'll just face complications if you ever try to return home or whatever.

>>26725150
The US is one of three countries that taxes based on citizenship instead of residence.
On the other hand, you have to be fucking retarded to renounce US citizenship.

>>26725037
SEAniggers are asleep anon, your country is shit

>>26725086
Yes, fat. Also, dangerously close to hitting the wall.

>>26725086

>>26725216
It's MY shit.

>>26724698
Low test

>>26725150
mixed race moment

TAXATION IS THEFT

>>26725230
>>26725234
The Slampig of Holo.

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion

>If you are a U.S. citizen or a resident alien of the United States and you live abroad, you are taxed on your worldwide income. However, you may qualify to exclude your foreign earnings from income up to an amount that is adjusted annually for inflation ($105,900 for 2019, $107,600 for 2020, $108,700 for 2021, and $112,000 for 2022).

She's getting double taxed but the first 112K she made wasn't taxed in the US. That means she only got double taxed on every dollar she made past that. You're listening to a millionaire whine about taxes. She probably voted for this in the first place.

>>26725405
The Leanpig of Hololive. Soooooooooooo-EEEE!

you can exempt yourself from japanese taxes though if you aren't a citizen

>>26725150
2 second google search

>>26725405
The ultimate slampig. Connor must be having the time of his life.
Sorry deadbeats but this hole is occupied

>>26725614
While her actual bf watches and faps with tears in his eyes.

>>26725405
I would honestly
>>26725254
kek, based cracker

there's no way US and Japan didn't have a tax treaty to prevent double taxation

Why the fuck did a jannie delete my post where I fucking posted tax law? And pointed out why she's double taxed?

>>26725554
Didn't give you enough knowledge on what you are talking about. Deemed dispositions, residency, you're a retard contributing to the billions of overpayment in taxes every year almost entirely by working individuals without proper knowledge

>>26726515
Probably the cuckbeat jannie. We're not really sure how he thinks, only that his actions are in service to the ideal of Mori simping.

>>26726623
Here it is again.

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion

>If you are a U.S. citizen or a resident alien of the United States and you live abroad, you are taxed on your worldwide income. However, you may qualify to exclude your foreign earnings from income up to an amount that is adjusted annually for inflation ($105,900 for 2019, $107,600 for 2020, $108,700 for 2021, and $112,000 for 2022).

She made 112K after cover's cut, youtube's cut and Japan's cut. She's only double taxed for every dollar past that.
Public available information on a government website.

>>26716340
Mori be out here going all 1776. Taxation? Come and take it. Don't tread on me.

>>26727668
Wake me when she goes all 1488.

A worrying number of people in this thread don't understand tax brackets

>>26727788
Including Mori herself.

>>26727744
That will happen after she gets back to America and has to deal with the clown world shit she hasn't had to deal with in Japan.

>>26727788
People are absolutely retarded about taxes
It's like the average person loses 40+ IQ points when the word tax is said
It's by design though, why do you think no country teaches high schoolers tax, despite all of them needing to pay taxes eventually?

>>26727938
>be Mori
>create studio
>move back to the US full time
>BLM/antifa burn studio to the ground
>My brain is full of fuck
I could see it.

>>26728042
>my nigger loving brapper is secretly based
Hook me up with that COPIUM link bro

>>26728042
All it takes is one bad day.

>>26728110
Not that guy but have you seen the people who screech about her on twitter? If she repels those types of people she is good to have around.

>>26728110
lol not saying that one bit, Anon. Just that nearly getting burned to death in her own studio is likely to open even her eyes.

>>26728248
>he uses twitter

>>26728314
>muh headcanon
I still don't get how you aren't just coping

>>26728364
I hate twitter just as much as the next guy but I feel if more of you used it, many a rrat would be disproven.

>>26728477
I'd rather stick my dick in a rrat thread than in twitter. Less AIDS.

I'm still trying to figure out where she got this figure from
Royalties are ordinary income and Japanese tax paid on it would count towards eliminating US tax liability

>>26728555
Well then I guess if someone has to do it, may as well be me.

>>26728677
My uninfected penis thanks you.

>>26728660
I still maintain she pulled it out of her arse to keep her paypiggies hooked, but it could be an accountant taking advantage of her I guess.

>>26719028
Feel free to renounce your citizenship then, anchor baby. You won't because your parents will be deported once Slidin' Biden is out.

>>26728847
Gassed hopefully.

>>26721213
Based. That's why I'm a capippalist.

>>26726722
Japan has treaty with the US so she should not be taxed 2 time unless she is a retard

>>26727788
True but the tax brackets aren't the issue here.
There's no way she's at 80% even for her marginal rate. The US has tax treaties specifically to avoid that sort of thing, because the IRS doesn't want all our highest paid expats renouncing US citizenship.

She is 100% paying double tax like a retard because she doesn't know about the tax treaty

If she’s paying anywhere near what she is saying she’s a fucking retard lmao this warms my heart to know this cunt is getting absolutely raped by taxes imagine making good 6 figure money as a us citizen and not taking advantage of the 527438 loopholes we have.

>>26716340
I can imagine Calli's retarded thought process here. "I've always done my taxes myself, hiring an accountant would be a waste of money."

>>26729503
so at most she'd be paying like 40% Japanese taxes, keeping 60. Instead she's paying double, 80%, keeping 20. A few hours with an accountant would literally triple her take home earnings.

>>26729354
>loopholes
It's called tax planning and it exists everywhere

>>26716597
She lost most of it again
Her body must be going through hell

>>26729645
I think it is more likely the fat rrats were untrue to begin with...

>>26729645
Yeah. Training with me

are cuckbeats all children and retards? not a single concerned red superchat from an accountant explaining that she's been fucking up on taxes? kek

>>26729645
Don't forget, she's nearing 40. The calories are going to come flooding back reeeeeeeal quick.

>>26729765
All of her fans are children from SEA
They have no idea what taxea are

>>26729746
>he lacks the critical information

>>26729645
She looks like she's in her mid to late 40s and never decided to settle down

>>26720934
>live in US, don't pay taxes
>get all the few benefits
>nothing bad happens, stern letter from IRS every five years or so
>live abroad, don't pay taxes
>get zero benefits
>"wtf, wheres our tax money"
>become stateless
It's that easy.

>>26730017
>stern letter
Lol anon ask me how I know you aren't American
The IRS is not a bitch

>>26729645
what the fuck
Mori is packing

>>26730017
The IRS has their own agents that they'll send after you
They don't fuck around, even an audit is serious shit.

>>26718245
I am confused. So youtube holds automatically the amount for the double tax treaty and you go to pay to your country what you would normally pay?

>>26729645
>that bicep
No she didn't, the side profile is there to trick you

>>26729645
the wigger of wippon is hot...

>>26724632
When/if you move back to US you'll owe back taxes.

>>26730631
It really depends
If you're just working a middle income job without major sources of other income you'll end up not owing anything
You still have to file a claim showing that you owe 0 dollars every year, or you'll get in trouble

Didn't they charge less if you pay taxes in Japan?

>>26727997

Canada literally teaches high schoolers taxes. And has a much simpler tax code.

>>26729810
I literally follow her roommate account which she posts pictures on frequently.

>>26730017
The IRS will kick down your door and shoot your shih tzu just because they fucking can if you even dare not pay taxes

>>26724637
Strongest != Best.
Believe me, we know.

She's probably spending too much time out of Japan to be eligible for the standard exclusion and doesn't satisfy the other ways to qualify for the exclusion. Or she's just retarded.

Man, the USA really is a third world country.

>>26722627
>Yes oh yes, tax me more Uncle Sam!

>>26723059
report deeznuts

Alternative theory: she didn't say "80%" because it was meant to be a mathematically rigorous description of precisely how much she pays in taxes, but rather because it was meant to be a rhetorical colloquialism for how she feels too much of her money was being taxed from her?
Or you can just keep elevating her SEO with the combined power of your Hateboners, that's fine too.

>>26716340
>Video title says Calli
>OP calls her Mori (a guy's name)
Who do I shoot?

>>26731656
Who's Steve Jobs?

>>26723198
then why do they love comunism so much lol

>>26718043
>>26718160
I'm an expat (US living in Canada), and this only covers up to 100,000 earned in one country for the treaty between Canada and the US before you get double taxed out the ass. I wonder if it's similar or different for Japan. Taxes are a nightmare.

>>26731812
America very much does not love Communists, what have you been smoking?
The last two elections have been between Hitler 2.0 and "maybe we'll give you a little bit of socialized healthcare, as a treat", both times.
America fucking hates Communists.

>>26730982
>Canada tax code
>simple
I'm Canadian and we don't teach high schooler anything about remittances, div B income, credits or what a t1 is

>>26731753
Retarded because their are people that pay 80 effective tax on some stuff

>>26723559
Reminder that she actually have a manager for her roommate shit and actually signed with an agency, actually I wonder if that last part affeted her tax situation is that not=Cover agency US based by any chance?

>>26716597
>big ups for the akaspa my dude!

>>26732476
No, literally nothing like this is an 'exception'
Tax treaties exist so that people like Mori don't end up paying double out the ass

Just renounce US citizenship. Shes native USA right? Easy as fuck to get it back of you're native born in the states.

It's always funny when people learn about the US taxation scam. Burgers living abroad get fucked hard.
I guess that's what you call the price of freedom.

>doesn't know the foreign tax credit
and she was a JETslave for HOW many years? guess when you have your family funding shit you don't need to learn how to do your taxes.

>>26729765
Why would an accountant explain to her in a SC instead of trying to sell his services?

>>26722927
she needs more money for her concert tours but then she probably filtered quite a few gachis with her last menhera attacks,,, also those rm songs where she's outright shitting on them, that probably didn't help her financial situation at all.

>>26719496
>Her saying she’s in the top tax bracket
you only get taxed 80% for the amount of money that falls inside that bracket. you're not paying 80% on everything you make.

>>26733093
Even in Canada the highest bracket 50-70% depending on the province
80% is bullshit, her income above 500k would cease to exist if she was getting taxed fully by Japan and the US

>>26730203
>>26730372
>>26731355
Is that why it's called the strongest citizenship?

>>26729765
I actually did see one in her quarry stream

>>26728042
Totenkopfbeats where ya at?

>>26719355
IRyS's dad is a congressman?

2022
Mori is still trash streamer, her streams easily look the worst, still tech problems.

>>26735066
Eh, I have enjoyed her Va11hala streams.

>>26720934
Same goes for sexual crimes committed by Americans abroad. If you fuck a 16yo in the UK it's legal but not if you are an American citizen. It's illegal to have sex with a minor(under 18) no matter where you are on Earth.

>>26729038
>unless she is a retard
C'mon, anon.

>>26716340
Now I understand her shekel joke

Dammit, Mori. Have you even thought to ask Meilyne or Sydney about the tax issue? Meilyne could tell her everything about reducing your payable amount and what she does and doesn't need to pay. I bet she just went to a Japanese tax preparer that speaks broken English and he or she just took Mori's money. Even worse if she's doing all the taxes on her own.

>>26735268
This is the case in the vast majority of western countries to punish sex tourists.

>>26735830
TT guys and their wives know everything about embezzlement and fraud. Google "flying color foundation".

>>26716340
Why does she not use some of her money to hire a lawyer to minimise her tax burden?
Everyone else does it, if you pay enough you can even even get the government to give you other peoples tax money instead

>White girls
>knowing anything about tax law unless they're CPAs or a chad's wife

>>26717610
Haachama probably sinks her money into negatively geared real estate like every other rich Asian that visits Australia

>>26716340
please don't tell me she just added US' top tax bracket with Japan's. or do, that would be hilarious.

>>26716340
She should probably talk to a US-based certified public accountant or tax attorney. There is no way she has to pay in taxes what she says she's paying unless she's not taking advantage of any of the egregious amount of loopholes and deductions that exist in tax law.
The United States has the most complicated tax system in the world and US citizens are expected to voluntarily disclose their income and determine the correct amount of taxes that they owe by themselves. Government audits go out to individuals that are suspected by the IRS of miscalculating their taxes and legal penalties await those that deliberately hide their income for the purpose of evading taxes. Due to this complexity, the wealthier you are, the more avenues you have to avoid what she is currently going through. It may be as simple as setting up the correct type of bank account, changing the method of how she is paid, or raising her maximum deductions or tax credits through some obscure process. She needs to consult a professional if she isn't doing so already.

Japanese taxes are rough with the highest personal income tax bracket being 45% for permanent residents on their worldwide income with an additional 2.1% surtax. When living in Japan, this is combined with a flat 10% tax rate for local governments leading to an overall tax rate of about 56% on all income over a certain amount. However, foreigners have it a bit better than others because they are only taxed on the income they make sourced from Japan. What Mori said lines up correctly with everything I've read about the income tax on a Japanese resident's Japanese-sourced income.

This website is pretty helpful in understanding what she'd be expected to pay:
https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/japan/individual/taxes-on-personal-income
>In Japan, permanent resident taxpayers are taxed on their worldwide income. Non-resident taxpayers are taxed only on their Japan-sourced income. Non-permanent resident taxpayers are taxed on their income other than foreign-source income (in particular, potentially, on certain capital gains) that are not remitted into Japan plus potentially part of their foreign-sourced income that is paid in or remitted to Japan.

>A non-resident taxpayer’s Japan-source compensation (employment income) is subject to a flat 20.42% national income tax on gross compensation with no deductions available. This rate includes 2.1% of the surtax described above (20% x 102.1% = 20.42%). A non-resident taxpayer may be subject to the local inhabitant’s tax at a rate of 10% if they are registered as a resident as of 1 January of the following year.

The US is only one of two countries in the world where taxes are based on citizenship and not residency. So the reason that Mori is taxed twice at the maximum bracket in each country is because she is not paid as a COVER employee, but rather as a contractor. This is combined with the fact that COVER collects her channel's income first and then gives her half of it. If the order were reversed and Mori were to collect her channel's revenue from Google herself and then pay COVER half of that, she'd only be subject to paying US taxes as her income would be classified as overseas-sourced income. Alternatively, if she were to be officially employed by COVER, she would still be subject to both US and Japanese taxes, but the Japanese portion of her income taxes would be lowered to 30.42% instead of her current 56%. At least, that's my understanding. Most countries, including the US, have income tax treaties in place to prevent this kind of situation. https://www.irs.gov/businesses/international-businesses/japan-tax-treaty-documents

tl;dr: Mori is in the worst possible situation regarding the way she receives her income and she needs to meet with a US-based CPA or tax attorney that specializes in US citizens working abroad and specifically in Japan. Ideally, a professional could help her work with COVER to find a better method of paying her that would lower her taxes. There's no reason why she should have to pay 70-80% in taxes because she should be receiving US tax credits so that she is not being taxed twice. This goes for IRyS as well.
https://www.hrblock.com/expat-tax-preparation/resource-center/income/foreign/foreign-income-taxes/
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/choosing-the-foreign-earned-income-exclusion
Foreign tax credit form: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1116.pdf

>weeb moves to japan
>starts to make money
>doesnt educate herself on taxes and other financial matters
>just pays double tax anyway
>starts making real money
>still hasnt educated herself or hired a proper accountant

I swear to god her generation is doomed to being eternally dumb

>>26717610
Based

>>26720823
not even, I just hate communists

>>26721080
Ame hates taxes and loves guns. He lowered her taxes and just secured her the ability to get a concealed carry permit
>>26720934
>You ARE FREE to renounce to your american citizenship
You have to pay a tax to renounce it, not even joking

>>26722134
emotive deadbeat is pretty based since it keeps gift subs out of the members streams

>>26738691
Damn, which school is she gonna shoot up?

>>26735994
This.

>>26722134
cover needs to upgrade her live2d with a hooked nose