/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>>26595906
>getting into an already oversaturated market
>just as the economy is going into a massive recession
why don't you just puit your money in a massive pile and burn it? Seems like a much quicker way to lose all your wealth.

>>26596566
I think there still is room for a well-produced and funded English organization. /vt/ said the same thing when phase-connect and many other agencies came into the market and they still ended up fine. I have enough to burn where it really doesn't matter to me regardless.

>>26596686
the cost of entry is admittedly very low, provided you hire the talent as freelancers.
But the returns are minimal at best.
Like what, you want to skim off the top like Holo does? Expect a cash flow in the hundreds to low thousands with not much room to grow.
What services would your agency even provide?
A new name that is not a brand yet and has no value with talent that is unknown and also has no value.
Like who would you even want to hire and what would your agency do that others don't?
What is your plan to grow the company?
Have you thought about this for more than a second?
Take your money and donate it to your oshi so you can at least jerk off to that and have some form of compensation.

>What gender would your talent be?
Female
>What type of agency would you be?
Whore Market
>Where would your talents stream?
CB
>What language market would you target? (Select all that apply)
EN JP ESP
>Would you do a "generations" model or consider all talents as part of the same generation?
Gen
>How many talents would you hire for your first recruitment?
50+
>How does your talent own their character/IP?
Does not own it, no option for buyout
>What percentage cut does the company take from donation/superchat earnings?
50%
>What percentage cut does the company take from any merchandise?
10%
>What types of models do your talents use?
Both
>What artists do you hire to illustrate for Live2D?
Nagishiro Mito
>What riggers do you hire to rig for Live2D?
Rhombus
>What modelers do you hire to model 3D models?
TheArtGun

>>26595906
You should try to open a VTuber agency or fund a VTuber in Indonesia. The cost is very cheap and its streaming market is growing. Indonesian VTubers have been inclining for months, even before Kobo's debut. How to pander to Indonesian, you ask? There's a few options, your VTuber could:
- Be relatable to normies. Kobo is a prime example.
- Be lewd. Look at Gentiana Helix and Snowdrop ID as a whole.
- Be "simp-bait". Examples are Mythia Batford and Minerva Rosaline. Note that both of them are not GFE VTubers, but they are good at interacting with their fans/simps.

Didn't /asp/ already do this?

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>>26597129
>>What percentage cut does the company take from any merchandise?
>10%
NGMI

>>26595906
Why are vtuber logos so shit?

>>26595906
You should hire relaxed, chatting heavy streamers. English speaking but with euro accents also seems like a strong niche that a good company hasn't filled. Nina, Bat, basedapoya, all of them would be really good candidates for an initial branch for a lax company.

>>26595906
No one agency perfectly fits because it can't. Anons on this board don't completely look at the agencies from the agency's angle.

I hope if you do this, you reach out to some of the /wvt/ chuubas. There's a decent amount between 30-50 ccv that with a bit of marketing and some aid to better assets like improved models could absolutely make it, and would appreciate it a lot as long as they weren't forced to rebrand or start from scratch.

>>26604894
Give me some recommendations anon

>>26606081
JosabelleDemon was who I was thinking of when I typed, she's very cute but doesn't market herself, but also BodegaRrat PurityValentine, CharlottexBear, Veleck.

>>26599928
i put 10% too. honestly, know fuck all about merchandising. what should be the best percentage?

>>26606675 (Me)
Also these 4 have distinctive personalities and accents, I'm not going to lie I think they would make a good corpo gen
Josa has a cute accent even if I don't know where it'd from, likes horror and old games and is a talented artist. Acts lewd sometimes but always gets flustered and can't keep it up.
Bodega is an American NY rat, she's a good artist and preplans her streams and conversation so she always has plenty to talk about. Does some really good RP streams eg yandere and stuff
Purity is a british cat who is super welcoming and kind, mostly family friendly, does reading streams to help people sleep and is cozy overall
Charlotte is an American black bear who is very shy and stuttery but also insanely passionate about things like dinosaurs and cryptids and conspiracy theories, she also has a great vocal range and does karaoke often
Veleck is an Irish kot sidhe, her chat interaction is excellent and she's started getting into ASMR. Can be lewd but it's not all the time, also an excellent actor if you see her 'gyaru' mode. Very down to earth normally though, big contrast

>>26607583
Phase has a woman who manages the talents named Muumi. Sakana often got into shouting matches with the talent Tenma before he realized he didnt know shit about women so he hired Muumi to handle managing the talent while he managed the business side. It works and it works very well because Muumi acts as part therapist and part manager, all of the talents have even talked about how they don't want to dissapoint her.
sakana was trying to make Muumi into a vtuber but she strongarms him

>>26595906
If you don't have any business experience you're practically doomed to fail. You need solid management and support behind the talents. Pretty much every small corpo that has failed has been due to shitty management

>>26597633
Approved by Jokowi

Yeah baby keep those foreign investments coming

>>26608528
Riku is a zoomer with experience of only failed business ventures. He is your typical Silicon Valley startup founders. Find some ideas, find some willing investors, run the new company with the hope that luck will be coming to you.

>>26595906
So, OP, if you have no prior business experience, at least learn it first and then try to copy Riku Tazumi. It's almost impossible to copy Yagoo, he's been in this tech business way longer than anyone.
You already got the money, so try to find some professional teams, I don't recommend working with your friends, find some real pros. Mainly the ones excels in talent scouting/recruitment and marketing. Networking networking.
And then this is the most important thing: scout for some exceptional talents. Riku struck gold in his first try by recruiting Tsukino Mito, you should try to copy him in that.

>me
>answering business and financial structure questions
>answering HR questions
>answering contractual and IP questions

why would you even crowdsource these opinions.
i could see some value in asking a potential audience opinions on some things, but these questions are so out of line with reality this can't be anything but a LARP.

You will be successful if you make a HAG ONLY AGENCY

has anyone went and created a vtuber band yet.

like gorillaz but take it a step further.

>>26609773
how would he even keep those pros paid?
A handful of small indies aren't gonna bring in the cash to pay for a real team until well into the future if at all.

>>26595906
this general reeks of tranny psyop.

>>26610690
this is just for fun but is also insightful for me to keep in mind. plan on publishing results as graphs.

>Greetings anon. I have lurked /vt/ for over a year and noticed a lot of you feel similar about the agency structure as I do. You look at the agency market and there is no one perfect agency that fits your needs and interests. Well now is your chance to possibly change that with me.

I'm hoping that OP is not Vasalis from Theta Initiative or anyone from Kawa Entertainment.

>>26595906
Let me be honest here. Getting capital investment for a vtuber agency is a long shot, and a bank loan, even more.

Staying in the black and not pissing away your parent's inheritance with running an agency (salaries and all those expenses) is not gonna happen.

I think the most viable approach ironically, might be what Pokimane went with: a brand management/marketing consultant agency instead.

So basically, streamers are mostly hands-off except for when they come to you for consulting and setting up a campaign or branding. So basically almost like an ad agency except without needing to helicopter streamers like corpo managers do.

Having said that, I think you need to consider running EXTREMELY lean (like for now, yourself and another person, probably 3 people max) so you can stay financially afloat. If you probably need to hire -anyone-, then I think you should hire Slugma.

>>26602844
Individual vtuber logos are like that I agree.

>>26618160
The slug went to PC anon

>Greetings anon. I have lurked /vt/ for over a year and noticed a lot of you feel similar about the agency structure as I do. You look at the agency market and there is no one perfect agency that fits your needs and interests. Well now is your chance to possibly change that with me.

Oh please, I'm hoping OP is not Vasalis from Theta Initiative or anyone from Kawa Entertainment.

>>26595906 (OP)
Let me be honest here. Getting capital investment for a vtuber agency is a long shot, and a bank loan, even more.

1. Staying in the black and not pissing away your parent's inheritance with running an agency (salaries and all those expenses) is not gonna happen.

2. I think the most viable approach ironically, might be what Pokimane went with: a brand management/marketing consultant agency instead. So basically, streamers are mostly hands-off except for when they come to you for consulting and setting up a campaign or branding. So basically almost like an ad agency except without needing to helicopter streamers like corpo managers do.

3. If you must insist, then run an extremely LEAN operation (like for now, yourself and another person, probably 3 people max) so you can stay financially afloat. If you probably need to hire ANYONE, then I think you should hire Slugma BUT knowing how monthly salaries go, you will burn through all your inheritance pretty fucking hard.

>>26619016
I really don't want to keep stressing this point but I gained tens of millions from my parents. Money isn't an issue. If you got any further advice for that type of situation would love to hear.

>>26619158
Go talk to an actual financial advisor. Seriously.

>>26619573
I have. This is just extra market research since the vtuber space has it's own quirks.

Larping idiot. If you have to ask how to run a company on here you've already failed.

>>26619914
I've said it a few times but I am not taking anything too seriously. Mainly seeing what structures anons prefer rather than a how to.

>>26614704
This is another issue. Don't expect to make any revenue with your own ground-up corpo. OP is just going to burn money and they'll have to accept this. The odds they'll succeed is so miniscule. Even if they bring in some numbers, the expenses will exceed the revenue for a long time. Though I can't fault him, I'd make my own corpo of hags if I was filthy rich.

>>26620024
As I said, larping idiot.

fun

I hope you pull this off oil baron anon just make sure to get a good manager

>>26595906
it's important that you don't take all of /here/'s advice, only that which makes sense.

>>26595906
Cunny chuibas
you want cunny chuubas
Hire girls who can put on a good cunny voice
And if anyone starts giving you lip about pedophilla or what not, fire her immediately and take back all your IP assets

How many millions are you capable of shelling out?

>>26595906
oh boy

>>26595906
Only have one advice
Bot the shit out of your talents so they have instant algo domination

>>26599928
depends if the merch is funded by the talent like hololive or by the company like niji. if it's the former then i can see the argument for 10%

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>>26595906
How too have thousands of dollars: have millions and do this.

Assuming this isn't a larp, I'll give you the simplest advice that you should ideally already know.

1. Don't hire whores and twitch zoomers. EN scene has a severe dearth of professional talents so if you simply hire women that can be tardwrangled, you'll have a head start.
2. Try to pick people that cover at least one or two niches that aren't covered by the existing bigwigs. But at the same time you'll need some "more of the same" types as a safety net as well. If you go full experimentation, there's the risk of completely bombing, but if you don't have enough unique hooks no one will watch you either. Finding a good balance between the two will decide your success.
3. These niches should ideally revolve around a core idea (Hololive has "idols" and VSPO has "Girls that are good at FPS" for example). Figuring this out will be your biggest coinflip between success and failure.
4. If you ever get your group off the ground, do not - I repeat - do NOT fucking expand to new markets before consolidating the one you have.

If this isn't a larp, good luck, you'll need it in this industry.

>>26595906
if i was your parent i would come back from the dead to slap the shit outta you and take my money back

anything else

>>26597633
>implying OP is an indog
We should at least help him with examples if he's not an indog
>How does an Indonesian normie chuuba works?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiBUf4-ntf8
>How does a Indonesian simp-bait chuuba works?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hcqioa9Tuk
>How does an Indonesian lewd chuuba works?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxLIAPFXb3Y

>>26632912 me
First 2 clips has EN subs so that should help, the last one needs no subs I swear, just listen with your headsets and you'll get the point

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>>26595906
In b4 Musk buys Hololive...

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How many responses have you had anon?

>>26595906
Surely this won't generate endless drama and controversies during and after its development from the incompetence of its members like the other countless projects which have spawned out of this website and are lucky even to get finished.

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>>26640307
This Anon might have better luck flushing money in casino than creating an vtuber agency at this level of market saturation

>>26595906
Make a European agency and try to get funds from the EU by saying the agency is to bring people from different backgrounds together or some shit.
The talents each speak different languages and will do ""No English collabs" for pure chaos.
Just like Eurovision cliques will form among the talents depending on their background.
The agency will fall apart in less than a year because of drama, but it was all a social experiment to begin with so it's no big deal.

>>26595906
>inherited
Yeah you're going to lose all that money.

>>26649892
That actually might work. Western yuros are obsessed with diversity shit and will do whatever it takes to pollute their shitholes with forced diversity, and best of all, banks with governments actually fund that shit.

>>26595906
hire Bea, she needs a job

>>26595906
Fujoshi here, please make an agency of male vtubers. It's still an untapped market and Luxiem has no competition, so this is an easy win for you. You don't have to force them to fujobait, just have them be decent singers and/or entertainers. Don't have them talk to females (ruins the dynamic and men are more entertaining anyways), and don't have them do tranny shit like calling loli/shota pedophilia. don't hire any trannies we hate them (no, twittards aren't fujoshi and if anyone thinks that, please learn what words mean), and have them be actual anime fans or otaku of some sort. There are actually quite a few male indie vtubers out there that can fit this description (not caring about politics, internet discourse, don't hate fujoshi, etc), so it's not impossible. Female fans are very loyal and have very big social media power, can draw lots of dedicated art, buy lots of merch, and go out of their way to drop big money on boys in more ways than one (look up all the things female fans did for Vox: buy billboards, adopted apes, and created an original song by a rock band). I have high hopes and I'll keep an eye out because I really want to have some variety. I'll always stay loyal to my oshi, but I'll definitely give you some views and buy your merch if it's interesting.

Oh and also please make a shota and a monster boy. And no not a boring kemonomimi or demon or whatever, I mean something unique like with tails and three eyes or something. I'm so sick of stereotypical boring bishie with fangs #392849712 (I love Vox Akuma though but that's not the point).

>>26595906
We desperately need an idol agency for pure girls. We're tired of supporting someone for months only to find out she has male friends or worse. Do a full background check to the chuubas to make sure they don't hang out with males (and haven't done so in the past). Add purity to the contract and give big fines to anyone who breaks it.

>>26655783
I've been on /vt/ so long that I can't tell if this is a joke or not anymore

>>26656256
It's not. Why can't we have vtubers who don't cuck us? I guarantee such agency would be successful.

>>26656390
You seem to be misunderstanding the purpose of vtubers.

>>26656390
Yeah we need vtubers who have never had a father or male teacher when they were in school and never picked up delivery by a male or been to a convenience store with a male cashier.

>>26652455
Mostly diversity within the EU. To promote cultures or some shit.
Can't really call yourself a european agency when the talents don't even live in europe or have any sort of connection to yurop.

>>26595906
The google doc talks about percentage cuts, but another option could be that instead of having the talents rely on donations, give them a normal salary.

>>26595906
Honestly, I feel like a bunch of these questions have answers that you shouldn't look to us to answer. Do your own research, find a niche that's being underserved, and seize it. That's the best advice I can give, I feel.

Also, get some really good talent. And do background checks: you don't want anyone with skeletons in their closets.

>>26660341
You talk about doing background checks with talents but the agency wouldn't look trustworthy either.
I doubt anyone would want to join an agency with no credibility, just some dude with some pocket money from his parents. It wouldn't attract any talents, only some clueless girls at best.
It's best to collab with some existing company like some anime distributor or indie game company and create an agency together. The agency will look more trustworthy, have more of an established audience and the other company probably has a lot more experience when it comes to marketing etc.

>>26660720
You make a good point. I suppose the best way to do a background check would be by doing it undercover as a "fan" of the chuuba. You could ask questions in her chat such as "have you ever had a boyfriend". Someone who hasn't had a boyfriend would tell you because it would be advantageous to her, but a boyfriend-haver would tell you it's none of your business. If the chuuba is clean, you can try to recruit her officially.

>>26660341
>find a niche that's being underserved
Like male vtubers. Please make a male vtuber agency, I don't care if it's idols or freedom-based just please give me some cute boys doing cute things it's not fair that male fans get all the options of having so many girls to choose from.

>>26661717
That's retarded because it's creepy and most if not all female vtubers are going to ignore and ban you. The undercover part is a good idea but don't ask creepy questions in their chat. They'll also notice it being a pattern and it will just make the company look bad.

>>26661894
There's no way anyone would be able to link it to the company, but you're right about the possibility of getting ignored. Maybe it would be better to ask about it from the fans in dms instead? When you watch a chuuba long enough, you can usually tell if she's a virgin or not even if she doesn't say it, so the fans should know.

>>26662149
Are you trying to run an agency or a brothel?

>>26662353
An agency, that's why I wouldn't hire whores

>>26619757
>This is just extra market research
>4chan
>market research
kek

>>26655538
This anon's got a point, creating fans who market for you is one of the best boons you could ask for.
>>26595906
The hard part is making your island stand out in the archipelago. Chuubas are just now reaching out to TikTok and other shortform platforms, so an early part of your strategy should involve these to grow quick

>>26663179
I mean, /vt/ is the only English vtuber board you can ask questions with anonymously.