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26578821 No.26578821 [Reply] [Original]

>This shit is 10,000 yen
Is nijisanji fucking serious? Gura gets a plushie and cutlery set for 12,000 yen, meanwhile Nijisanji get a keychain and a fucking wallscroll that would be robbery at 5,000 yen, never mind twice that price. What the hell are they doing?

>> No.26578968

Shit sucks, no real excuse.

>> No.26579026

>>26578821
We keep calling them nijiniggers but maybe we should start calling them nijijews

>> No.26579070

milking you for every penny you won't superchat

>> No.26579116

ACCELERATE

>> No.26579202

>>26578821
And there are people that have actually purchased this?

>> No.26579329

>>26578821
Anyone can calculate the production cost of all this pack?

>> No.26579518

>>26579329
you, personally, could probably have the entire set made for 8 dollars with a printer and some tools. If we give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they use high quality materials for it, which I don't know why you would but for the sake of argument lets go with it anyways, it'd cost around 20 or so dollars.

>> No.26579690

>>26578821
Can't wait for Luxium to get some toptier costom merch in 3 days. Good to see Anycolor taking care of the moneymakers.

>> No.26579692

No wonder they were cracking down hard on "counterfeit" merch, the margins must be crazy high to just give up

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26579953

>>26579690
rumao

>> No.26580041

>>26578821
Isn't this the older "better" merch that NijiJP phased out for even worse merch?

>> No.26580062
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26580062

>>26579953

>> No.26580069

>>26578821
People wouldn't buy this garbage no matter how much it cost so they might as well milk the 2 or 3 paypigs she has

>> No.26580111

>>26578821
Niji income was always deficit
So they need to mark up the price really higg to cut their loss

>> No.26580165

>>26580041
yes, appearently they went back on it
Or maybe it's an EN only thing, who knows?

>> No.26580218

>>26578821
Who would give money to that whore anyway?

>> No.26580273

>>26580062
>>26579953
>>26578821
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MAKE IT STOP

>> No.26580319
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26580319

>>26578821
Any merch that isn't a 1:1 scale full-body sex doll of the chuuba is a ripoff in my book

>> No.26580362

>>26580062
People shit on Cover for being the premiere chuuba corp, but Anykara really has that soulless corporate business model down pat, with how they churn through talents, overhire and then toss away entire branches, and sell merch with no personality using bulk-order materials.

>> No.26580394

why is vtuber merch so overpriced in general? sorry but im not spending 100 bucks for a couple voicepacks and a plate

>> No.26580404

>>26579202
Yes. Finana’s biggest simps have definitely bought this shit.

>> No.26580428

>>26580404
All 5 of them.

>> No.26580435

>>26580428
kek

>> No.26580463

>>26580218
>Finana
>Whore
>When Pomu exists
Finana wishes she was a whore. She’s an over sheltered Asian chick.

>> No.26580494

>>26578821
She is milking her simps for every penny they have so she can go slut up the streets again and tell her fans how much she hates them.

>> No.26580532

>>26579329
A sample for wholesale prices should be available here. https://factory.pixiv.net/
I have seen indies using that site for their merch

>> No.26580534

>>26580394
supply and demand motherfucker

>> No.26580568

>>26578821
Wait until you see the shipping costs

>> No.26580573

>>26580394
In cover's case, it's made to order and customized based on the talent's input so I can see some extra cost there. Not sure what niji's excuse is when they just copy paste their merch.

>> No.26580599

>>26578821
Who actually buys vtuber merchs anyway? Aside from Korone's dakimakura

>> No.26580621

>>26580428
Unironically true

>> No.26580623

>>26580394
It's like vtubing is a business or something whoa...

>> No.26580650

>>26580599
I mean gura sold out 2k limited merch sets at 12k yen each in 3 minutes. So i would guess quite a lot of people

>> No.26580682

>>26580650
>Three minutes
The fuck I thought Gura declined in popularity

>> No.26580732

>>26580532
It's all in nip and I can't find the prices
Can you look up how much would the stuff in here >>26579953 would cost using that site?

>> No.26580749
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26580749

>>26580362
I mean... by their own words, they are an entertainment "factory".

>> No.26580766

>>26579329
Girls with Etsy shops would sell that shit for like 5-10$

>> No.26580794

>>26580682
> he believed the niji lies

>> No.26580798

>>26580494
She has no input on the merch items, anon. See >>26580062

>> No.26580819

>>26580599
If only I'm not paid with toy money and live close to Japan, I would buy Ina big takodachi beanbag.

>> No.26580826
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26580826

>>26580766
I wouldn't be surprised. If I can find these prices on alibaba, anycolor can get better wholesale prices because all their merch is the same

>> No.26580850

>>26580623
no shit its a business but do they have to nickel and dime so hard? the worst case of this is when Cover made people rent holofest but only for a limited time so they could get more people to buy the dvd. the japanese are the new jews apparently

>> No.26580852

>>26580062
Holy soulless

>> No.26580874

>>26580682
>believing the astroturfing done here by other jealous corpos
Come here less often

>> No.26580891

>>26578821
>MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD

>> No.26580890

>>26580394
They mark them up because people will still buy them. They're not really paying for the product, they're paying the talent

>> No.26581074

>>26580599
Pekora's nousagi plush from the birthday's merch is kino though... I even got a neat medal and a lil' painting from the debut merch.

>> No.26581096

>>26578546
go back numberfags

>> No.26581156

>>26581096
nijiseethe

>> No.26581228

My take is they must have made a contract with some low-tier company when EN wasn't a sure thing, and said company got mad when they were selling higher quality merch for seasonal events, so they were told to throttle all physical merch until the end of said contract

>> No.26581274

>>26580062
It's funny how niji is liked with chinks, and literally is a copy paste of all their merchandise.
>We will never have a Piki, Poppi, or a Weewa plush as birthday merchandise because their merch is the same as all other company members
Fug this

>> No.26581379

>>26580650
Most limited edition (vtuber's own autograph) packages are sold out in minutes. I say most because some of them are dropped or their fanbase is small

>> No.26581410

>>26580599
> he doesn't have a KSDK Takodachi

>> No.26581439

>>26581379
Oh yea no doubt, i just didn't really have any other numbers available in my head to use as an example other than Guras since it was so recent. But i know both Robocco and Sora sold out real fast as well.

>> No.26581856

>>26580749
It sounds like a fucking ghetto.

>> No.26582122

>>26578821
parasocial fucks will buy anything; even when they are told to go fuck off.

>> No.26582693

>>26578821
Um, you forgot the aluminum foil badge and plastic standup panel???

>> No.26582913

>>26580062
Fucking embarrassing for the 2nd largest corpo. I've seen small no-name corpos do better than this. Hell, a fucking indie I follow that only has 3k subs has a more varied merch selection.

>> No.26583029

>>26580062
Out of 17, I only recognize 9 of them.

>> No.26583094

>>26583029
welcome to the nijifag experience

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26583256

>>26580362
>>26580749
It's alright tho because muh freedom

>> No.26583309

>>26583029
Their names are literally there.

>> No.26583365
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26583365

>>26580062
No way this is real...

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26583369

>>26580749
>>26580362

>> No.26583460

>>26583309
No hablo nihongo

>> No.26583937

>>26580062
literally entertainment factory

>> No.26584127

gifts are always just a pretext to give your oshi money without the company getting a cut, at least for holos idk about niji, the item itself can be hit or miss

>> No.26584334

>>26578821
cheap ABS cutlery is something to be proud of? I bet they won't even clean up the mold lines

>> No.26585268

How are you faggots so new you've never seen the default Niji birthday merch till today?? Is /vt/ just clueless holofags who know nothing outside of their bubble?

>> No.26585387

>hire 300 livers to your company
>surprised they don't have individualized merch

>> No.26585449

>>26585268
yes. they literally discovered it early this year on the numbers thread and have been obsessed with it since then

>> No.26585484

>>26585268
I don't think people realize just how soulless and corpo niji really is, can't blame them when they get a taste of hololive and get smacked in the face by the other side of it.

>> No.26585496

>>26585387
Nijisanji has 160 members

>> No.26585547

>>26585496
That isn't a better number

>> No.26585624

>>26585387
Hololive allows the holos to choose the merch as long as they're willing to fork over cash for the production costs. Niji can easily do this but then they wouldn't get nearly as much money from it

>> No.26585708

>>26585268
anon this is a bait thread

>> No.26585716

>>26580062
LMAO
they mass produce shit-quality chinese merchandise, just like their vtubers.

>> No.26585786

>>26580428
> 5
try at least 1000, holoturd

>> No.26585810

>>26585484
>Takes favoritism over the talents that make more money
>"Wow, Nijisanji is really bad with their favoritism, literally a battle royale"
>Gives everyone the same birthday merch
>"Wow, nice souless company that mass produces merch, nijiniggers"
There's no winning with you fucking faggots, you just want to whine about something you don't even care about because your life is that sad

>> No.26585901

>>26585810
One thing has nothing to do with the other though

>> No.26586117

>>26578821
Would it be that much more effort to at least have more than one picture?

>> No.26586237

Remember the nijiEN group merch that didn't have Rosemi or Finana on it?

>> No.26586509

>>26580650
That's nothing compared to Finana selling 18k birthday items at 10k yen each. How did I get that? Of course inspect-tool magic, the same way holofaggots do.

>> No.26586516

>>26585708
just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bait

>> No.26586555

>>26586509
you should see a doctor for this level of rent free, it's not healthy

>> No.26586662

>>26585901
nijinigs don't know the meaning of 'nuance' anon.

>> No.26586725

>>26578821
who else has birthday merch out? had high hopes for petra and millie but with these they dropped to the floor

>> No.26586765
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26586765

>>26586509
the absolute state of nijiniggers

>> No.26586877

>>26580062
It's amazing that even the graphic design is a template.

>> No.26586934
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26586934

>>26583256
Freedom to be a WHORE LMAO

>> No.26586955
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26586955

>>26580826
Those Niji cheapcakes, ripping off their fans.
Good thing Gura's birthday merch is high qual...

>> No.26587017

>>26580650
Here, buddy, I've got some replies to your claims:
>>26586555
>>26586765
No need to thank me

>> No.26587022

>>26580062
>Literal copy-paste merch coming out of a chink print factory
Holy shit and I thought Holo merch was bad

>> No.26587067

>>26586509
>>26587017
so appearently nijiniggers don't know how to count

>> No.26587156

>>26587067
Nah, that's holofaggots whose imagination is too rich that they imagine numbers using inspect-tool lmao

>> No.26587258

>>26578821
Just wait for the luxiem dildos and clit massagers

>> No.26587465

>>26587156
You think the limited edition sets going out of stock almost immediately is an inspect element trick? You're not making sense.

>> No.26587481

>>26586509
Anon the limited merch set selling out was even brought up on the off-collabs poptart tasting.

>> No.26587515

>>26586955
I'm pretty sure eating out of that bowl will give you lead poisoning

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26587541

>>26580062
Even Sana got a custom plushie, they had to make patterns and get special materials for this shit

>> No.26587614

>>26580749
even their promo-material sounds chink as fuck kek next stop new Silk Road of entertainment.

>> No.26587657

>>26587465
>>26587481
Nah, their numbers are bullshit that they themselves explain as a inspect element trick.

>> No.26587706

>>26587515
Well, that's the problem of gurafags

>> No.26587802

>>26580394
it's about showing support to the company and chuuba

>> No.26587860

>>26586955
The bowl and mat sure, but for the chopsticks and fork they have to make plastic injection molds, thats way more commitment that i would guess for just merch. And if the quality of the plushie is the same as the mascot plushies then its not comparable at all to whatever Alibaba/wish shit this >>26586955 may be.

I have the Bubba plushie and the size + quality was way better than i thought it would be.

>> No.26587874

Yes, those are all the goods the members get in Nijisanji. They don't get custom goods at all. Black company.

>> No.26587911

all out whore

>> No.26587935

>>26587802
Why don't you go show support for dying kids in Africa you incel

>> No.26588011

>>26587935
But i like that kids are dying in Africa...

>> No.26588031

I can see that Finana has horrible merch, but why is this a concern to those who don't watch her?

>> No.26588162

>>26588031
It's our duty to raise awareness of Nijisanji's mistreatment of its members.

>> No.26588241

I feel like every vtuber merch is an actual scam. They know people will overpay for their oshi even though all they're getting just a bunch of plastic that values for pennies. even Gura's stuff is not worth 90$

>> No.26588259

>>26588031
its not concerning, its funny

>> No.26588326

>>26588241
yes, its marked up so talent get a decent share of the profits

>> No.26588355

>>26588162
This genuinely seems like it's anti-employee. I wonder if they get jealous of the merch other companies produce for their members? Does VSPO have birthday goods?

>> No.26588456

>>26588326
They could still give you something just a little worth what you pay though.

>> No.26588574

I like the display panel. They look nice.

>> No.26588575

>>26588355
you have to have a brain tumor to think this is "anti-employee". jfc

>> No.26588670

>>26588575
Nijiseethe, it's worthless next to Hololive merch.

>> No.26588755

>>26580749
>entertainment factory
>entertainment economic zone
LMAO, holy bugman mentality

>> No.26588884

>>26582913
IPO means they need to make the fat cats wealthier. You will buy 8 dollars merch at 50 and you will be happy!!

>> No.26588946

>>26581228
If they really want to, they can terminate the contract, anonchama. But they won't because the profit margins are insane.

>> No.26589052

>>26587541
Anya and Sana, the lowest tier of their branches, got custom merch modeled by YAGOO himself.
Let that sink in: the CEO approved and modeled custom merch for their bottom feeders.
I don't care what anyone says these actions speak louder than any words here or there.

>> No.26589102

>>26588355
vspo has had sets with all of the same things as the OP plus a mug and bag for ¥6000
FBK's birthday merch includes a PU leather card box and a set of dogtags in a glass box for ¥9500
it's actually amazing how much of a ripoff the Niji merch is

>> No.26589117

It's so funny to come into these kinds of threads and watch people that don't even watch Nijisanji come up with their own weird narratives to demonize them as much as they can possibly can to get their epic own. Talk about rent free. Why do you guys even care to begin with if a vtuber you don't watch has good merch or not? Are you really that insecure in your choice of entertainment that you constantly need to shit on other stuff to reassure yourself that your choice is superior?

>> No.26589215

>>26589117
Nijicope, why do YOU insist on defending this? Regardless of if someone watches Finana this is objectively a bad look.

>> No.26589245

>>26589117
this is actually worth complaining about anon, they're charging premium custom merch prices for shit you can make to order on Booth for ¥3000

>> No.26589263

>>26589215
I don't even know what merch hololive gets because I don't watch them and I don't care. You on the other hand seem to care a lot about what Nijisanji gets.

>> No.26589293

>>26589117
its funny

>> No.26589380

>>26589117
>Check the VTA thread
>People genuinely think tye VTA models are the final models
>People genuinely think all 17 will enter the main branch at the exact same time
>People genuinely think all of Ranunculus are 2 views
You can see some funny posts browsing the catalog.

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26589426

>>26580062
Standardizing merch is absolutely the most soulless shit i've ever seen. I'm a Pomudachi and knowing I have nothing to look forward to purchasing on her birthday pains me. Why the fuck did they do it? They literally don't even let the talents fund and design their own birthday goods (selen wanted to, but was turned down). Retards here will fault the livers for this but the company is objectively really fucking scummy

>> No.26589516

>>26589426
how dare you criticize anycolor you holobrony!

>> No.26589543

>>26589263
What a tool. Trying to be all condescending, while being the biggest and probably the only actual unironic tribalnigger in this bait thread.
Most people watch both companies, retard.

>> No.26589576

>>26589426
Sorry your oshi joined a black company bro, maybe consider watching a company that makes goods you can look forward to?

>> No.26589606

What sort of parasocial faggots would pay 100 for a person that vocally hates them and has proof that's less than a week old? Normal people wouldn't buy this shit and she knows it's only lonely fucks that buy into her kisses and fake loneliness kayfabe enough to simp for this shit.

>> No.26589645

>>26589543
>Most people watch both
The numbers prove otherwise though.

>> No.26589670

>>26589426
Maybe don't watch nijisanji, holobronie. No one gives a shit about that. Either adapt or get out.

>> No.26589680

>>26589117
>>26589263
>>26589380
>Look at me! I watch Nijisanji. I'm the nijiniggest!
Imagine being elitist for a black company lmao

>> No.26589689

>>26589606
>What sort of parasocial faggots
literally the same ones that defends her points

>> No.26589716

>>26589645
What numbers, dumbass?
You really think people more than a month into a hobby never watched a single clip of the other company?
Fuck off back to whatever shithole you crawled out off.

>> No.26589731

>>26580062
Cookie cutter and company gets most of the profits.

>> No.26589739

>>26589426
Because no one who watches nijisanji for years care about it. If anything they got backlash when they tried to make the merch better before.

>> No.26589742

>>26589052
Not sure about Anya, but despite a lower viewer count Sana was still pulling her weight SC-wise, people like to say she's at the bottom but she still makes Cover money.

>> No.26589803

>>26580826
holy fuck kek

>> No.26589805

>>26589680
you dont even know what a black company is if you think anycolor is one.
>>26589731
you literally don't know that because no one knows th merchandise shares.

>> No.26589812

>>26589543
Most people legitimately do not watch both though. Go check out chat participation stats for HoloEN streams usually its around 15-20% of people that also watch NijiEN.

>> No.26589811

>>26589606
even in this very thread you can see retards defending her and her company. the most delusional parasocials never admit that they're the ones being shat on by the emotional predators they sustain.

>> No.26589861

>>26589805
>>26589716
So explain to me again why do holofags keep getting called corporate bootlickers when nijiniggers like this exist?

>> No.26589889

>>26589606
More like who the fuck is parasocial for a bunch of whores who regularly off collab with males and interact on an almost daily basis with them.

>> No.26589922

>>26589680
I'm not being elitist in the slightest. Why are you guys so insecure that someone merely stating that they watch a different company to Hololive and a lot of your narratives look stupid from the perspective of someone that actually does watch Nijisanji is perceived as being elitist?

>> No.26590117

>>26589812
The fuck does participation have to do with anything? Most people don't watch streams period. Doesn't mean they avoid all content related to one company or another.

>> No.26590226

>>26589716
Oh you're just baiting, cool.

>> No.26590230

>>26589922
This thread and the VTA thread really opened my eyes to how many of them are legitimately clueless about most of Nijisanji outside of a few EN's.
>>26590117
You're really telling on yourself by proudly admitting you don't watch streams.

>> No.26590231
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26590231

>>26589716
Here is a selection of recent HoloEN streams showing the percentage of people who were in chat that have also been in NijiEN chats. From left to right you have Ame's last Elden Ring stream, Gura's Birthday and Mori/Sana/Miko/Roboco collab.

>>26590117
We were talking about if people watch both companies or not? If most people watched both companies you would expect there to be a high percentage representation of NijiEN in HoloEN chats.

>> No.26590560

>>26590231
Do you have this but for the Niji EN livers? I'm interested in how much of their audience watches Hololive.

>> No.26590605

>>26580732
>for 1000 badge pins at their largest size (88mm) it would cost 150 yen, smallest size (25mm) would cost 48yen for 1000 badge pins
>100 b2 tapestries cost 3760yen.
can't find anything on acrylic panels
>1000 acrylic keyholders largest size (100x100mm) cost 550 yen, smallest size (50x50mm) would cost 230 yen for 1000

Found this all on the link by>>26580532 the wholesale prices are all to be expected

>> No.26590610

>>26590560
https://vrabi.net/daily
Just pick out any niji stream to check.

>> No.26590649

>>26578821
Since Finana told all her parasocial fans to fuck off who exactly is buying a keychain and wallscroll for 90 bucks?

>> No.26590693

>>26590560
It varies quite significantly by who you're looking at, Finana's stream yesterday had 26%
20-30% is a sizeable audience overlap, and there's been a lot of HoloEN birthdays recently with really good custom merch that costs the same as the OP or less, so I would actually expect people to make some noise about this

>> No.26590718

>>26590649
her parasocial fans

>> No.26590731

>>26590231
>chat participation
Huh? Who gives a fuck? Do you wanna also compare youtube comments and subreddit posts while you're at it?

>>26590230
>You're really telling on yourself by proudly admitting you don't watch streams.
Yeah, so what? I also don't buy merch. And yet I don't post shit like
>I don't even know what merch hololive gets because I don't watch them and I don't care
like I'm some kind of a proud newfag tribalnigger.

>> No.26590765

>>26583256
Unironically this
Imagine not having perms to MGS kino

>> No.26590846

>>26590560
It's generally around 40-50% for most Lazulight and Obsydia streams where they don't get raided and lower for Ethyria. So a fair amount of Lazulight/Obsydia fans also watch HoloEN but the same can't be said as much the other way around for HoloEN fans also watching NijiEN.

>> No.26590972

>>26590731
We give a fuck if we are trying to determine what percentage of an audience watches both companies. It's just about the best statistical evidence you can get.

>> No.26591011

>>26590731
I think you're too autistic and missed the entire point of anons post, which was that because he doesn't watch hololive he isn't obsessed over what merch they get and make low effort bait threads about it.

>> No.26591182

>>26590972
How is active participation equal awareness?
Hololive is more popular and have a higher percentage of hardcore fans. Do you really think a significant portion of their audience are not at all aware of Nijisanji?

>>26591011
Yeah and you missed the point of my post. Which is calling him a fart sniffing retarded newfag, not to participate in a /#/ thread.

>> No.26591272

>>26591011
this isn't even really bait though, the replies are treating it like a tribalfag thread but that merch at that price is genuinely disgusting by the standards of literally anyone
2views doing print-to-order merch from booth have better stuff for less money

>> No.26591388

>>26591182
We weren't talking about awareness? We were talking about if the majority of people are watching both companies or not. If the majority of HoloEN fans watched both companies you would expect the NijiEN to show up much higher on those chat participation charts.

>> No.26591497

>>26591388
You're comparing one point in time statistic on participation, which is not at all indicative of the audience's lifetime interaction with both companies.

>> No.26591584

>>26591497
It's not one point in time though. I have shown three different examples of HoloEN streams at different points in time that all show about the same percentages of people that have been active in any NijiEN chat at any point in time.

>> No.26591639

>>26591272
I sent my worthless feedback on it to Anycolor

>> No.26591686

>>26591584
Okay, 3 times. You can find one for almost everyday since 2020 when Hololive became bigger than Nijisanji.
It's not the same audience every time. There's a high chance that people watching one company one day will at some point in the future watch the other.

>> No.26591767

>>26591686
You can go click through streams yourself and see its really quite consistently around the same percentage. Most people watching HoloEN streams have never been active in any NijiEN chat.

>> No.26591798

>>26590693
God I hope EOPs make a fuss on Twitter so I can laugh at this burning shitshow. Can you imagine PRISM or Tsunderia fans looking at Hololive merch and then sperging on Twitter that they deserve that?

>> No.26591850

>>26591798
prism and tsunderia probably have better merch

>> No.26591896

>>26591767
So they found their favorite and they stick to it. Doesn't mean they never watch other streams by other companies when they want some variety.

>> No.26591995

>>26589426
>enbrony
did not read.

>> No.26592049

>>26591850
I'd be surprised if Tsun has any merch at all. I can only think of Cyberlive having goods.

>> No.26592077

>>26591896
This is just cope. 99% of Holoen viewers have never typed a single word in Finanas chat since she debuted. They're not watching her

>> No.26592081

>>26591798
It's been up for days now can't see a single complaint about it from the fans in replies. Weird that isn't it almost like all these people complaining about how horrible the merch is aren't even fans and are just trying to own the other company.

>> No.26592101

>>26591798
>>26592049
They had a limited-time merch sale in spring and it unironically was better than this for less money

>> No.26592140

>>26592077
Is anybody?

>> No.26592187

>>26580062
Jesus Nijisan really is the true black company, Hololive at least lets their members make their own merch ideas

>> No.26592235

>>26590649
me. im special :)

>> No.26592290
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26592290

>>26580062
same energy

>> No.26592343

>>26592187
That's what you get with big corpos. Does mcdonalds let their franchises put a steak on the menu? Of course not, and now that Anycolor is a public company, they will be even more souless.

>> No.26592406

>>26578821
Does she even have enough fans to buy her shit? only the males can get away with these prices

>> No.26592435

>>26592077
Look man, unless there's an actual study with a clear question of whether people constantly stay in one company bubble, there's really no point arguing about it. If we're trowing numbers around I'd say there's like a constant 30% audience rotation, that either fucks off after a while or starts to explore the medium, but until then still watches the one company they started with.
I do believe that 99% of holo viewers don't watch Finana, since she's a fan hating whore.

>> No.26592452

>>26592290
has the UOOOOOOOOH Imma cooming, everyone coom with me now vibe

>> No.26592497

>>26592101
Got any pics so we can laugh at Niji?

>> No.26592500

>>26592406
No you just have half a dozen who buy 100 each.

>> No.26592529

>>26592290
Niji EN really is just repeating the same joke over and over, ala Deez Nuts

>> No.26592556

>>26592101
Guess inflation has hit niji too huh

>> No.26592563

>>26592081
You mean the company drones at up the shit product? Wow I'm surprised.

>> No.26592614

>>26592435
>actual statistics showing consistently the same percentages of people that have been active in any NijiEN chat
>let me just pull a number out of my ass instead

>> No.26592650

>>26592614
Same way you pull conclusions out yours based on irrelevant numbers.

>> No.26592856

>>26592650
The classic lets just ignore what the evidence shows and say the numbers don't count if it doesn't fit my narrative instead of just admitting I was wrong move.

>> No.26593112

>>26589861
im a corporate bootlicker for knowing what a black company is and for not talking about merchandise shares if we dont have info? then i guess i am

>> No.26593182

>>26592856
You're arguing that what, 60% of hololive audience never watched nijisanji streams because they never participate in their chats? You really believe the target demographic is that much different?
Whatever, keep talking to the magic numbers autismo.

>> No.26593236

>>26580682
you spend too much time /here/

>> No.26593287

>>26593182
hololive fans in the west only watch nijien
>>26592343
only retards believe on differences of public and private companies. both of the cases have shareholders to cater to.

>> No.26593403

>>26593182
No that's not what we are arguing about at all. You said
>Most people watch both companies, retard.
The numbers demonstrate that is wrong. If most people watched both companies you would expect the chat participation rate graphs to show that the majority of people chatting in HoloEN streams were also active in NijiEN chats but they aren't only 15-20% are.

>> No.26593439

>>26580319
now there's an idea

>> No.26593707

>>26593403
>If most people watched both companies you would expect the chat participation rate graphs to show that the majority of people chatting in HoloEN streams were also active in NijiEN chats
This is a false premise.
People have favorites that they enjoy and dedicate their time to. Doesn't mean they never check out anything outside of their comfort zone.

>> No.26593816

>>26580850
Vtuber concert tickets are always ridiculously pricey. No idea why, but it's not just Holo. Kizuna AI's were an exception, which is why they're the only ones I ever bought

>> No.26593875

Most of the EN vtuber fans in the West I know don't really care about which company they are watching. They just watch whatever they find that interest them.
SEA has always been the region that stir shits up. I don't particularly have anything against them but from my personal account, they are usually the ones sucking on some corporate nuts.

>> No.26593958

>>26593707
I don't understand what relevance you think this has to the argument we are having. This argument isn't about if people might check out other vtubers sometimes. It's about if most HoloEN fans also watch NijiEN and the statistics to that clearly show the answer is no they don't.

>> No.26594156

>>26593958
Stats show that fans don't constantly watch both, but they say nothing about whether they never watch the other company at all.

>> No.26594195

>>26589742
If we're talking about Holo bottom feeders, it's Anya and Io and BOTH still got custom merch modeled by Yagoo. Great job Anykara!

>> No.26594219

>>26592235
are you a parasocial fuck?

>> No.26594370

>>26594156
Once again this argument wasn't about if people have never watched the other company ever. It was about if the most people that watch HoloEN also watch NijiEN and the statistics show no they don't.

>> No.26594468

>>26578821
Don't forget that Gura's 12k yen merch set has a HANDWRITTEN AUTOGRAPH limited edition. Anykara can't even be bothered kek. Also, that shit sold out in under 3 minutes. I can't wait to see the price goes x10 on e-bay

>> No.26594728

>>26582122
but parasocial fags are cringe according to..... FINANA kek

>> No.26594760

>>26594370
You're arguing the premise you yourself came up with.
The phrase "Most people watch both companies" doesn't indicate any sort of consistency or a necessary participation to count as "watching".
"Watching" company content is checking out the content they put out. Whether it's streams, clips or merch.
You're providing one narrow statistic and trying to revolve the whole argument about it, like the whole concept of following idols is participating in their chat.

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>>26594370
>>26594760
Here are some stats for the two of you. Poll is from a Stars/Niji clippers community page.

>> No.26595035

>>26594965
Well looks like the number 30 I pulled out of my ass was actually way closer than that autistic chart, lmao

>> No.26595279

>>26594760
If you say you watch Gura almost anyone is going to think you mean you watch her streams. Not that you once looked at some merch of hers. Seems more like you are creating some special defintion of watch as a get out now that you have been show to be demonstrably wrong and that most people don't watch both.

>> No.26595328

>>26595279
Most people will think you're watching clips and the actual nonautstic poll proves it.

>> No.26595384

>>26595328
If you say you watch a streamer most people won't think you watch their streams? You really do sound ridiculous.

>> No.26595444

>>26595384
Yeah, crazy world huh. Most people who say they follow streamers, don't actually watch their streams.

>> No.26595546

>>26595444
You can even see in the way the poll you are using as evidence now that the person that made the poll doesn't think watching and watching clips is the same thing. There are specifically different categories for those in the answers to the question of if you watch them or not. And holy shit you go to a clippers channel and find lots of people that watch clips who would have thought it.

>> No.26595606

>>26580062
Can't wait for this to pop up in every niji thread

>> No.26595774

>>26595546
Poll doesn't think watching streams and watching clips is the same thing.
The poll question itself contains the word "watch", the fuck are you trying to pull here.

>And holy shit you go to a clippers channel and find lots of people that watch clips who would have thought it.
That's probably the first sound argument you made. But even if you consider that, do you really believe that chuuba fanbase is majority stream watchers as opposed to clip watchers?

>> No.26595971

>>26594468
Yeah and they let everyone buy 10 so more scalpers got it than actual fans. What a shitshow rumao.

>> No.26595995

>>26595774
The questions differentiate between watching them and watching only clips of them. Meaning that people generally don't think watching and watching clips are the same thing like you are trying to claim. When you say watch most people think you mean watch the streams unless you specify you are talking about clips only like the way the question is structured implies.

>> No.26596101

>>26595995
The questions differentiate only streams and clips. You're going completely delusional.

>> No.26596201

>>26578821
>isreal
why? unless finana shoved them shits up her pussy there's no way i'm spending a benjamin and some change on that

>> No.26596393

>>26596101
You are agreeing with me and then saying I am delusional? I really don't understand you. The questions are about if watch them or not and then the answers are yes, no or only clips. If people viewed watching and watching clips as the same thing there wouldn't be a need for separate responses there would just be yes or no.

>> No.26596691

>>26596393
Watch can mean watching streams or watching clips.
The purpose of the poll is to find out exact percentage between those.
It does not in any way imply that watching something does not equal watching clips.

>> No.26597066

>>26596691
If watching meant watching streams or clips then there would be no need for separate responses in a poll asking if you watch them or not. They are clearly viewed as different things with watching them meaning watching their streams. A poll seeking purely to ascertain if people watched clips or streams would have asked if they watched clips or streams not if they watched them and then had a separate answer for clips.

>> No.26597316

>>26597066
There was a need to separate responses, because watching streams and watching clips is different.
If you really think that you can only say that you watch chuuba when you watch her streams specifically, you need to get your autism checked.

>> No.26597623

Obsessed

>> No.26598892

>>26578821
the fuck is this some kind of nft garbarge

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>>26580062
same energy even with their streams>>26592290

>> No.26600770

>>26580404
This is false, Finana has no fanbase let alone simps

>> No.26600918

>>26580062
people actually support this company?

>> No.26601026

>>26586955
t. doesn't understand bulk orders or how the entire physical goods market works

>> No.26603783

>>26578821
DO NIJINIGGERS REALLY???

>> No.26604000

>>26599909
And I thought kiara was the worst numberfag.

>> No.26604496

>>26580062
Wait is that the only thing nijiniggers sell? Shitty keychains and paper?

>> No.26604715

>>26580599
>he doesn't have a comet hat and tshirt and cd

>> No.26605738

who the hell buys wallpapers in 2022, can't they think for a better merch like shoes or tshirts, jackets, slippers, plushie pillows or some shitty LN or manga

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>>26605738
I think all of that were reserved for special themed merch like pic rel which they do A LOT

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>>26578821
>>26579953
How does a 2view company get coffee while Niji gets nothing?

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26608022

>>26580463
Bro, I'm going to atlanta. I'M GONNA SAVE.

picrel, it's me.

>> No.26613269

i only watch selen and elira

>> No.26617514

>>26597623
nijiseethe

>> No.26618367

nijisanji is a shitty company glad I left it long ago, its so clear the only thing they care about is money, they release new waves and overpriced merch solely to make more shekels

>> No.26618705

>>26589861
>why do holofags keep getting called corporate bootlickers
people who do this glow rainbow mate, makes it easy to dismiss their retardation.

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>>26592497
https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1510439441977987073
https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1373068542229106693

not exactly high quality, but they had some decent ideas.

>> No.26618977

>>26590765
thanks god Peko played MGS before the holocaust.

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>>26591182
>How is active participation equal awareness?
jesus anon

>> No.26619822

>>26580599
You can actually buy vtuber merch and use some for daily life usage
But well they ate kind of overprice because they're "merch"

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>>26618913
These unironically look better then what we get... fuck

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>>26578821
Nijisanji's birthday merch are infamous for being copy paste merch
What about Nijisanji's anniversary merch? Are most of them shit quality too?
I can only vouch for Sanbaka's 3rd anniversary merch because I only about Sanbaka and never bother to check other Nijis situation that the merch are quite decent because of the watch

>> No.26622461

It's funny how some Nijis in NijiEN are going with the attitude muh parasocial
Don't they realize only the parasocial fucks are willing to buy these overprice basic merch?
These are the sort of merch that people buy for the sake of supporting someone
I honestly can't see the casuals or those who aren't attached to them buying these merch

>> No.26622538

>>26578821
Is she selling GFE voice packs?

>> No.26622614

>>26622538
Yes
Yes she is

>> No.26622737

>>26622614
hypocrite whore

>> No.26622885

>>26607509
It better be civet coffee at this price.

>> No.26623126

Nijifriends don't care. They like being exploited like the retards they are.

>> No.26623434

no one sane gives a shit about EN so might as well scam the few retards who do

>> No.26623634

>>26622885
Or better yet, its the chuuba coffee, extracted directly from their waste

>> No.26624573

>>26589426
>custom merch for everyone in nijisanji
I'm definitely against those shitty standardized merch, but custom merch funded by the livers own money will cause some issue too. Those nijis who are literal bottom of the barrel won't be able to fork out funds for custom merch.
Relying on Anycolor to fork out funds for all livers custom merch is also unrealistic as there are too many livers in their company.

>> No.26624742

>>26594468
Handwritten autographs aren't that uncommon either. Some people even do unlimited.
https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1435935948362051588

>> No.26625292

>>26580394
Because it's either nothing with a superchat or something tangible.

I imagine these kinds of products are cheap to produce so there is little liability. If they don't sell they can be thrown in the trash. Quite a fewl of the high effort items that were made for hololive ended up being net neutral or losses.

>> No.26625458

>>26625292
> Quite a fewl of the high effort items that were made for hololive ended up being net neutral or losses.
Source? Most of their merch are made to order so I don't think will have too much extra stock to go negative on merch.

>> No.26625566

>>26578821
if you cant pay then shut the fuck up

>> No.26626344

>>26625566
>Don't complain about cookie cutter merch
>Don't expect better
>Consume product

>> No.26626381

>>26625292
>Quite a fewl of the high effort items that were made for hololive ended up being net neutral or losses.
what is this retarded rrat? holomerch is infamous for being underproduced and selling out within minutes of release.

>> No.26627269

>>26625566
No nijibro I'm not going to lick that nijiboot

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So jwu. What the fuck is this shit?

>> No.26627765

>>26625566
> holofags are the corpo bootlickers btw

>> No.26628259

>>26622461
>It's funny how some Nijis in NijiEN are going with the attitude muh parasocial
>Don't they realize only the parasocial fucks are willing to buy these overprice basic merch?
They're essentially buzzwording, using the word wrongly. They want you to be parasocial, they just don't want you to be harmful about it and attack other livers or people over it. I hate how they are abusing the word to mean parasocial=crazies because that's sending the wrong message. You can be parasocial in a healthy way.

>> No.26628463

>>26589426
i mean they dont have much choice when their strategy is to throw 50 livers a year at the wall to see which one sticks.
how can they pretend all those talents are unique or special. when from the start they dont treat them like they are.

>> No.26628748

>>26586955
Botan's ramen bowl was made in Japan, which surprised me as I too thought it'd be a chemical leeching chingchong special. Also explained the cost.

>> No.26630235

>>26620843
Acrylics, stickers, badges, and keychains are filler merch you do if you have no actual ideas. People always bitch about them showing up in hololive packs too
The watch would depend entirely on how much they spent on producing it. If their margins were similar to the merch in the OP then it'd be garbage

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>>26622461

>> No.26630549

>>26628748
Cover's merch has always been surprisingly good. I worked in merch production for a while and I'm sure they lose money on some individual items because they know most people will buy the bundle that's padded with high margin stuff like acrylics and posters to make up for it

>> No.26632427

>>26578821
You're paying 10,000¥ and they didn't even bother to use different illustrations instead of just one for that aliexpress tier merch

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>even holostars get better merch than nijisanji

>> No.26637728

>>26578821
Niji has ties to China in every level of their organization. How the fuck did they not manage to make decent manufacturing deals in world's biggest manufacturer? Merch really should be one of their strengths. You really have to be a special kind of retard and go out of your way to get this merch.

>> No.26638508

>>26578821
>paying 10,00 for this shit
L + Ratio + Ur Cringe

>> No.26638717

>>26580826
>>26578821
What the fuck? Are they seriously selling at a 2000+% profit?
Do nijiniggers really???

>> No.26638925

>>26589426
Manjisanji sucks but nijiniggers will defend their bullshit anyways.
Every company has problems but nijiniggers will unironically defend every single problem manjisanji has as a way to cope with how shit they are.

>> No.26638972

>>26638717
nijiniggers more like nijijews

>> No.26639846

>>26630549
Also hand-signed post cards, voice dramas, things that do not cost that much money to make to sweeten the bundle deal.

>> No.26643113

>>26578821
who buy this shit

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>>26633749
>ear cuffs

>> No.26644778

>>26630549
100% they barely make money on the plushies. Plushies involve a lot of manual labor, you can automatize a lot of the cutting and stitching sure but the placement and refining has to be done by hand still. The materials are too soft to be fully automatic. But even then the biggest expense in plushies development is the concept phase, making the patterns, trying the materials, etc. You really have to get into the 100k range of products to start seeing a profit and i doubt Cover sold that many, and they only sold them for 30 bucks which is like ridiculously low price for a niche hobby plushie. Its easy to find 40-50 usd plushies on Amazon about popular characters.

Cover can be a bunch of lazy jews in a lot of stuff but i gotta give them credit where its due.

>> No.26645619

>>26644778
>You really have to get into the 100k range of products to start seeing a profit and i doubt Cover sold that many
you underestimate the reach of hololive

>> No.26645717

>>26578821
All Nijis get the examen same merch for their birthday, no exceptions. It's pretty shit but well that's how they roll
No idea why they don't allow their talents to make different merch for their birthdays, I know they do make different merch but that's only for select talents and that means the same 7 or so metrosexuals Any Color keeps shoving everywhere

>> No.26646248

>>26580062
Niji really is scrapping the bottom of the barrel in terms of merch. Fucking embarrassing shit right here.
If Salome get the same treatment, I'm starting to lose hope for this company.

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>>26645619
i absolutely do. Unless you have some data i'm still going to doubt they sold over 100k plushies of Kotori

>> No.26646746

>>26580850
Jewpanese has been known since the idol days were at their peak.
AKB48 usually released a single in 3 types. Type A, K, and B, each with its different side song, and keep in mind this was before the rise of iTunes so I had to buy fucking all 3 of the same single to get all the music in this single.

>> No.26647335

i really thought that feesh would have body pillow or booba/buttpad/mousepad , i dont mind the tapestry but holy shit the same shit with all other nijisanji merch. i'mma out from it.

>> No.26649082

>>26595971
>This product is a limited quantity product.
>As we hope to deliver to as many fans as possible, we only accept one purchase per person.
>Please note that we will cancel your order if you purchase more than one.
Try again.

>> No.26649456

>>26600918
No, we are not corpo bootlickers. We support only our oshi and nothing more.

>> No.26650790

>>26578821
Lowest performing Lazulight member has to get more money out of the few paypigs she has left.

>> No.26651206

>>26649456
Nice joke.

>> No.26651836

hilarious how the vtuber tourists are complaining about overpriced weeb merch. It's like they've ignored the community for decades

>> No.26652733

>>26651836
nijiseethe

>> No.26652826

>>26650790
Unironically this

>> No.26655857

>>26580062
the absolute state of nijisanji

>> No.26658437

>>26650790
nijijews

>> No.26661100

no GFE btw parasocial fucks

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