/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Yeah I'm thinking Ollie needs to graduate

>>2658086
Western anime men are descending upon Ollie like a hawk, now that they see a chance to fuck the other holos.

>>2658086
Ollie graduation when?

>>2658086
Mass graduation when?

Retard ID manager i swear to God, at least Enma keeps his harem on tight leash

Jesas another containment board

>>2658086
So this is how these fags are all going to force their way in now?

>>2658086
Ollie is liked by them, because she is perceived as a middleman.

Thanks, Mori

>>2658086
It just gets worse and worse.

>>2658171
>at least Enma keeps his harem on tight leash
So tight, that she stifles the fun.

Yagoo must be able to tell ID management to get their shit together, this is getting ridiculous.

>>2658086
A fucking ''Hi'' if this isn't attention seeking to get popular in the hololive community I don't know nothing anymore

>>2658086
Why do you keep making these shitty bait threads, iToddler?

The final yab.......

>>2658086
Mori kickstarted this whole shit.

>>2658249
The fucking arrogance of this man is insane. Not even a comment about the stream, he just says hi and expects her to know who he is.

>>2658358
She did know who he was though. It's not arrogance if it's true.

anime youtubers are some of the gayest and most annoying people on the planet, every single one of them is a shameless clout chaser. most of them are SEAnigs too.

>>2658086
Where are we with this?

I hate this bitch

This is all her fault

>random man: Hi Ollie
>Ollie: HI!
>/vt/: *autistic screeching*

I have no idea who this guy is.

>>2658086
I hate e-celebs derailing entire chats in an ongoing stream
>LOOK AT ME IT'S NORMALFAG TUBER #127366 GIVE ME ATTENTION NOWWWWW!!!
Can't they just be humble and leave a comment on the vod instead of being an attention whore.

>>2658205
>>2658350
>>2658425
Seethe

>>2658417
between 3 and 4

>>2658358
I don't mind her knowing who he is, but what he's doing is literally ''LOOK AT ME I'M FAMOUS AND I'M IN YOUR CHAT,ADMIRE MY PRESENCE RIGHT NOW''

>>2658425
I'm still waiting for her to collab with Charlie aka moistcr1tikal aka penguinz0 :}
She'd be so happy when that happens.

>>2658086
Now I'm REALLY glad I didn't member her when she opened them up.

>>2658417
Third maybe?

>>2658483
I mean, why not. She's feeding into it.

>>2658540
That's exactly why she needs to go.

Get over it, idolniggers

>>2658417
Its going to be a growing problem. Right now everyone says "its not bad stop being a schizo", but I guarantee most people here watch vtubers to escape western influence and its rampant obsession with politics. You are witnessing the start of the end.

>>2658425
I had never heard of them until her interview, but them talking about their bank accounts absolutely ruined Calli for me. Fuck all weebs in Japan.

>>2658086
When your stupid retard kid does stupid retard things, you keep her in check. As much as I hate Enma's NO FUN ALLOWED policy, I'd rather have her way of keeping things in check than have an absolute yab machine like Ollie.
I'm really glad Ollie's not on EN and I hope she gets slapped for doing dumb retarded things.

who is actually shitposting or not anymore I've lost the ability to tell

>>2658551
Cuck

>>2658586
That's how you know a rrat is getting juicy.

>>2658596
I'm not a zombrade

>>2658586
>posting anything other than a genuine expression of your passionate feelings towards chuubas to engage in healthy debate with /vt/ bros
Cringe.

Dramafag crossboarders need to explode.

>>2658586
as per usual, the views that you agree with are real, and the views that you're against are shitposts.

>>2658086
>>2658425
HAHAHAHA OHHH NO NO NO AAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I hate it.

>nooooo a streamer acknowledged the existence of another streamer
meds, holofags

>>2658611
THAT DOESN'T EXPLAIN ANYTHING YOU FUCK

*AHEM*
NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT INDOG HOLOS

>>2658596
You'll never be cucked because you'll always be alone

>>2658635
If you think it's bad now it's only going to get worse the more they start collabing with other communities. Just be glad she is just interacting with anitubers and not political pundits.

enma saved holoEN from this timeline that holoID is in

>>2658483
It's more Ollie making something out of it which is the annoying part. The fangirl squeeling when they enter the chat, the tweeting out about how she's playing with them on Apex. Some things should be kept to yourself. As the old saying goes: What you don't know can't hurt you

>>2658086
>tfw EN chad who isn't effected by this and has based Enma to cockblock these fags

You guys are blowing all of this way out of proportion.

>The absolute state of ID

These faggots are trying to leech off of hololive. It's so fucking obvious and disgusting.

>>2658696
Hey, they're not all bad. At least Reine seems to have a good sense for potential yabs and knows to stay away

>>2658708
You don't say?
2016 altered this site forever.

man who the fuck are these people
am I just old?

>>2658750
If anything it's the other way around. Ollie and other members have a lot more to gain from the exposure. There's no reason to be upset about it.

>>2658551
You're watching an idol company.
There's always the boring 10 view shitters like indies, or DICK CUM PUSSY every 3 seconds like vshojo if you don't like idolfagging.

>>2658694
>interacting with political pundits
that would actually be final yab worthy

>>2658792
No clue. I've literally never watched a normal human streamer in my life, I'm assuming that's what they are.

>>2658696
ENMA LOVE!

>>2658803
>gain more subs
>lose more paypigs

HoloEN Manager: noooooo you can't collab with coco because chinese people don't like her >:(

HoloID Manager: remember to buy anal lube when Connor comes to visit, my sister told me he'll just go in dry if he feels like it

>>2658782
She is the only HoloID I subscribe to, her English is great. Moona has a nice singing voice, but that doesn’t really matter when streaming.

>>2658782
I'm starting to appreciate Reine more because of the rest being so unprofessional.

>>2658750
i dont like these fags but its probably the other way around, these dudes have 2-3m subs each if anything its the ID girls chasing clout and exposure from interacting with them.

>>2658792
No, you are just not retarded enough to watch "Anime YouTubers"

>>2658792
dont know either
t. zoomie

>>2658417
Someone post the sound version.

>>2658874
More like chasing unemployment. Do they really think being a anituber groupie is sustainable? Good luck with that.

So what are >we supposed to do then?

>>2658792
I used to watch Joey but then I stopped because he pissed me off but I don't remember what he even did to piss me off
So I have this vague hatred knowing that he annoys me for a reason that I'm not entirely sure of

APOLOGIZE

>>2658874
Well then ID has to level up and not use these tactics. I doesn't look good for either party. There are planty of people that they could interact with and it wouldn't look like empty clout chasing

>>2658787
spoken like a true electionfag
this site has always taken things way to seriously and then blamed some outside group for it

>>2658086
HoloID needs to be nuked.
Only Risu, Reine and Anya shall remain

>>2658950
freak the fuck out and start harassing chuubas and hololive staff

>>2658986
I KNEEL

>>2658950
Make your opinion known on Twitter and YouTube. Leave comments under Ollie and Moona's tweets and videos expressing dissatisfaction with the frequent collabs. Don't be a schizo in how you phrase it and you'll find people agreeing with you, as well as management's attention. Negative feedback works.

That faggot really needs to hit the weights.

>>2658995
It’s makes Hololive look pathetic. It comes across like a podcast has more cultural relevance, so their performers get star struck for d-listers.

>>2658986
ENMA LOVE
ID HATE
Coco collab when?

>>2659022
Remember: Risu is reading this thread RIGHT NOW.

>>2658483
>>2658464
That's literally the personality type that youtube attracts

>>2658950
Voice our concern in twitter lmao. It sounds fucking stupid and anti-4chan but we are in the stage where there is almost 0 comments against c*nnor having such a good time. Maybe "I don't like that c*nnor is just trend hopping and masks it as friendship" in olllie, moona, iofi, risu tweets RELATED to the issue.

Be sure to check out my nene's 3d debut in less than 12 hours

>>2659011
What's wrong with Moona?

But 4chan told me cancel culture is bad!

>>2658986
I apologize

>>2658874
>these dudes have 2-3m subs each if anything its the ID girls chasing clout and exposure from interacting with them.
On old channels. I think they want to be involved in the VTuber popularity because their targeted fan base is interested in this sort of stuff. But they probably view Hololive as hard to access, or too closed off. Ollie is a middleman so to speak.

>>2658986
only after Enma has stopped kneeling to chinks

>>2658479
I am physically stronger than you and the military force of Japan is unable to stop me because they're comprised of Japanese men
Do you REALLY want to instigate something you know you won't be able to stop from happening?

>>2659121
>generalizing an entire website
Cancel your life.

>>2659104
Risu sucks

>>2658950
abandon ID

>>2658692
You can still be cucked even if you're single, retard

>>2658950
Become an anituber so that she will collab with you then get her to acknowledge the JQ on stream.

>>2658708
You quite literally only say this because you don't care about trying to marry a holo which means you unironically do not belong here and should leave

>this is his wife
I feel like he's got a thing for SEAnigs

alright boys, start loading up those groomer accusations

>>2658417
3

>>2659121
You just outed yourself as a tourist, grats retard

>>2659169
Anon has spoken...

>>2659121
most people on 4chan are bad

>>2659146
I'll take you with just my pinky, weakling.

>>2658986
Enma love

>>2659121
I call it preventive cancelling.

>>2658950
I've already unsuscribed to them, even disliked most of their videos. Also we need to voice our opinions, which I would've done already hours ago but Twitter isn't working and I can't create a burner account.

>>2659121
Here's the thing, people on 4chan don't care about being the bad guys, cause people on here aren't the "holier than thou" kind.

>>2658986
get new material, retards

>>2659121
Nuclear weapons are bad, too. But we still need to hold them because the second we put ours away, other countries will use theirs' to obliterate us.

What a fucking embarrassment. It like someone trying to fuck the fat retarded girl just to get with her friends. Hololive shouldn’t let their talents act like fucking groupies for nobodies.

Mori started this and even encouraged it by not blocking these podcasters on twitter. Now those trash taste guys are fucking your oshi.

>>2659114
I actually saw one from someone I follow saying something between the lines "It's fine to say you dont like content, I dont like holos mixing with anitubers" and it had like 10 likes, but didnt drop names or anything, need more like that

>>2659169
The issue is that Risu gets off on cucking her fans

>>2659215
she's filipino and fat

>>2658156
They don't deserve a mass graduation like CN did. Some of them are redeemable.

>>2658417
2

>>2658986
I shall kneel

>>2659130
>only after Enma has stopped kneeling to chinks
Enma is too busy preventing holo JP from interacting with holo EN.

The biggest irony here is that you guys are fine with treerat and Lofi sucking jap dicks but not Ollie and Moona sucking white dicks.

>>2659288
>Its like someone trying to fuck the fat retarded girl just to get with her friends.
Nail on the head right there holy fuck

>>2659351
Reine is cool, she sounds very intelligent.

>>2658479
You deadbraps may be into NTR shit seeing as how you basically encourage her to fuck around with other rappers and the youtube manlet

>>2659248
My father forced me to lift weights when he fucked me in the ass for 14 years because he liked how tense it made me, you don't know how powerful I really am

>>2658809
Cry more

>>2658696
>>2658986
STFU whore. I only care about my oshi's happiness and if Mori wants to collab with critikal because it'd make her happy, than she should be allowed to do so.

>>2658417
Between 2 and 3. 2.7th trumpet.

>>2659104
Right behind you.

>>2659389
fuck wh*Toids

>>2659389
the JP dicks arent outsiders to vtubing trying to trendchase and bringing an armie of retards with them

So are you faggots just gonna continue to complain on 4chan about it? I hope you realize how innefective that is.

>>2659443
>c-cuck!
That's all you can say

>>2659503
That's all that has to be said.

>>2659477
>this you?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SHUT THE FUCK UP EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU HAVE FUCKING RAN THIS ENTIRE GIMMICK INTO THE FUCKING GROUND I THINK YOU ARE HAVE BECOME LOST IN THE SAUCE AAAAAAAAAAAAA I BET YOU ALL NEVER EVEN WATCHED THE STREAMS HAVEN'T YOU, I BET YOU DON'T EVEN EXIST DO YOU YOU'RE ALL JUST FRAGMENTS OF MY IMAGINATION AND I'VE BECOME SENILE STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP

>>2659496
>Innefective
>Risu lurks in /vt/
>Manager lurks in /vt/

it may not be the most efficent way, but any people with a single braincell knows many people comes to vent or speak their mind here because in twitter they get cancelled.

>>2659530
Sure, keep believing your oshi is a pure angel.

>>2659389
Only Unicorns shit on HoloID for Holostars collabs. They're purely platonic in nature, and the Holostars are idols themselves. Not to mention there is a relationship ban within the company, so there is no threat of cucking. But Connor is a faggot who clout chases, not an idol. And he is not within the company so thw love rules don't apply. You don't need to be a unicorn to hate this shit.

>>2659503
I remember when homos in the middle ages did this, and then we started hanging them from trees, better days, we should start doing it to cucks so they start learning that their behavior can deserve violent reprisal if it's bad enough and that doing so is the objective morally correct choice
All those faggots died somehow, anon. And yet they all taunted the people that killed them up until they had pitchforks outside their windows.
Why do you think that is?

>>2658700
only real anon here, ID girls are retarded for bragging about playing with this guy publicly on twitter. Other girls probably play with friends and shit off stream but keep that shit separate from work/character so nobody gives a fuck as theyll never know.

>>2659477

>>2659503
Aww, what's the matter? Little baby can't face the facts? Tiny babu can't has to cope with his waifu using his spacha money for condoms and lube with other men? Too bad you can't take pride in your cuckoldry, because it's far too late to deny it at this point.

>>2659623
>spacha money
Imagine spending a single cent on women

>>2659389
>you're fine with it
Shut the fuck up retard, literally nobody is justifying those whores

>>2659470
That trashy meme rapper should catch a bullet in the brain from Yagoo's yakuza handler

I've dismissed every yab so far as being blown completely out of proportion or just misunderstood either knowingly or unknowingly but even this is start to be too much. Ollie is in way over her head and is becoming the welcome mat for e-celeb faggots looking to leech off hololives success.

I don't care they're interacting with males but the fact they're shilling it really aggressive on twitter is what makes it so suspicious. Just look at fucking iofi. She doesn't have a single apex stream and yet plays it offline suddenly? What the fuck.

Ollie is fucking based, can't wait to see her collab with black shark to see this board's meltdown.
https://youtu.be/uTH8Co_XKXk

>>2659389
I did the same thing when they dragged Moona, Reine and Anya into the homocollab.

Cry more idolfag, I hope ollie and trash talk will do a podcast soon so I can enjoy your tears more.

>>2658986
Fuck you, I still won't forgive you for kicking Chammers out of EN Minecra server

>>2659616
This, two days in a row I open Twitter to see if the girls have made any announcements and stuff and see posts praising Connor instead. I thought I've followed a bunch of VTubers, not an e-celeb fanclub.

>>2659215
They got married ?!
When did that happen?

>>2659558
Why do you choose to be an impotent and submissive male?
More importantly, since men are made to dominate women, and weak men deserve to die, why haven't you killed yourself?

>>2659738
You'll come back crying when they touch your oshi.

Watch Kiara!

>>2659554
And look where we are right now since most of the seething has been contained in /vt/. The only way they'll get the idea is if you let your opinions be known in video comments and Twitter replies.

>>2659727
Holy based. The ultimate collab...

>>2659656
Oh no, it's worse than a cuck
It's a MGTOW faggot

>>2659784
>More importantly, since men are made to dominate women
And you do this how, by donating money to women you deem pure?

>>2659853
Because women serve their providers, retard

HAHAHAHA THE STATE OF INDOGS

Just leave ID alone vt, we don't need all 12 of you in ID fanbase.

>>2659845
>using redditspeak

>>2659784
You become impotent and submissive the moment you start watching chuubas.
They will never love you, they will never be with you, they won't even acknowledge your existence and your superchat money will go into the pockets of the boyfriend they expertly keep hidden.

>>2659389
Iofi could go and fuck on stream and I'd just use it as background for porn sessions.
The bad stuff is the audience those people are bringing in and just the fact that they interacting with them daily is getting annoying

>>2659906
You think women are serving you by playing hours of APEX?

>>2658566
so what should we do?

>>2659535

>>2659780
Nah, still just dating, apparently. But they do live together.

>>2659793
Like I care, I watch them for entertainment not to married them in real life faggot.

>>2659784
If you think this way, you're compensating for the weakness you perceive in yourself. It's reaction formation. Get well soon anon.

Vtubers are people
People will always disappoint you in the end
This is the logical conclusion of blurring the line between 2D and 3D
They are not the perfect angels you watch in your chinese cartoons

>>2659784
nothing but the most alpha of chads on /vt/, this is where the genetic cream of the crop congregates

>>2658852
*CLAP CLAP*

>>2658114
this

>>2659784
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2658120
>Western
isn't he a jap or something

>>2658086
>THANKS FOR FOLLOWING MY TWITTER DO YOU LIKE APEX
At this point I start to have doubts that she can see a man as anything but a potential carry. I honestly was worried at first due to a plausible rrat of her being terribly alone but this looks a lot like she's just sperging out at being acknowledged by someone she is a fan of. Absolute nothingburger
>>2659530
It really doesn't. The person appreciating the fans of her art, allowing her to make a living off it and making her feel like her job really matters, also may or may not have sex with some people she talks to. Yes, that's what people you aren't dating do. They have sex with someone else. You wanting to fuck someone doesn't magically put a claim on them. Besides, get in line, faggot.

>>2660022
It hurts, the IDs have trashed the idea of vtubing that hololive had since day one, the being an anime girl with actual life, too much roomatefaggotry in their "characters" and official accounts. The line between 2D and 3D was supposed to be balanced... they broke it.

>>2660140
50% Japanese
50% Australian
pretty much the most Eastern you can possibly get

>>2659784
You're simping over one or multiple girls that are hiding behind anime avatars and you are currently gossiping over drama like a fucking woman. What the fuck makes you think you're anything but a submissive male yourself?

>>2659784
*tips fedora*

>>2659793
>You'll come back crying when they touch your oshi.

>>2658425
seethe

You guys don't even watch the IDs

>>2660022
Vtubers are are supposed to be separate characters but you zero talents want to downgrade them to 'streamers with avatars'.

And you guys now have this shit. You guys get what you fucking deserve.

>>2660267
I stopped watching the retarded zombie because she asperged too much

>>2660267
i watch the squirrel, i tried to get into reine for pochi but i don't particularly like her.

ollie is interesting when she pops up in collabs but i very rarely watch her as well.

>>2658417
i'd say 3... with a good chance of degrading to 2 and a small chance of evolving to 4.

>>2659540
sleep ollie, what r u doing? it's morning already

>>2660022
>People will always disappoint you in the end
But that's wrong, in fact my oshi told me multiple times that she loves me and really really meant it. And I wasn't even asking for her love!

>>2660179
Do you even watch hololive retard? Matrsuti already done what id done way before id debut, lots of jp member post their every day life on their Twitter account. Even miko make a diary of her hiatus life for few weeks.

Do you guys care about this because he's a male or because he's a faggot anituber? "Yes" is a Reddit reply btw

>>2660267
I watch moona

>>2660450
Yes

>>2660450
Yes.

>>2660282
>want to downgrade them to 'streamers with avatars'.
They are literally streamers with avatars. Take your meds. Actual vtubing would only happen if we replace w*men them with a super strong AI but it's unlikely to happen anytime soon.

>>2660450
Yes

>>2660450
Because he's anituber. I don't think anyone here would give a fuck if the ID fangirling over male seiyuu's playing with them.
Imagine if fucking Sugita or Miyano Mamoru is the one in the tweet.

The comments are almost as cringe as kissing the ass of a fucking nobody. Way to debase yourself and your company for a podcaster. That is just too pathetic. It would be like fainting while asking for the autograph of you local weatherman.
https://youtu.be/IsmUZWc06jM

>>2660200
australia is still western

https://streamable.com/hezjdu
you have to admit he has a point here, people here care more about the company than the talents at this point.

>>2658086
itd be fine if its Jerma but some anituber literally who srsly?

>>2660527
not really. They are characters. over time their character and their irl personalities blend together, but if you look at some of the girl's roommates channels their personalities can vary pretty dramatically.

>>2660620
This

>>2660449
I honestly have no idea why people get this idea that they're 100% characters with an actor instead of streamers with an avatar and a brief character context that they aren't even required to adhere to.

>>2660450
something is just 'off ' about this guy. You know how social retards become internet famous and then do stupid shit like start drama or fuck a 14 yr old? (Think Leafy is here, or those smash bros niggers who ran a train on a 14 yr old). Others probably called it now, but Im telling you , Connor's gonna catch a sexual assault charge or some dumb shit in the future.

>>2659784
Damn you got a lot of cucks assmad and it's true if you can't keep your fucking bitch in check you're not even a man, cope forever soi overdosed faggots

>>2660643
No one will openly talk about hating this whole thing in youtube comments, people would jump with a knife in hand to protect Ollie ''breaking the rules''

>>2660672
Did you really just post a clip of yourself Cummer? No one gives a fuck about your commentary about yourself asshole.

>>2660672
all i see is a guy being holier than thou because he doesn't understand the thing he's trying to force himself into. and for an anituber to be this way too kek

>>2660643
Also calling it right now Ollie will be the first to spark a trend of articles called ''the problematic side of hololive''

>>2660738
The thing is vtubers are not your bitch, you cannot make a vtuber submit to you no matter how many superchats you send to them, you have no personal relationship with them, you are in fact the one submissive and reliant on them to make content that pleases you while providing monetary compensation

>>2660738
oh shit he's running amok

>>2660731
If this Connor guy gets canceled for pedophilia or something after all this I would be laughing so fucking hard

>>2660450
>Do you guys care about this because he's a male or because he's a faggot anituber? >"Yes" is a Reddit reply btw

>>2660806
>I’m soo above this.
Please adopt me!!!

>>2660784
>>2660806
Try to actually use critical thinking and face up to what he's saying. None of it is false

>>2660449
>>2660697
I guess you are actual retards who don't follow hololive or just watch clips, posting their fucking life is part of the joy, but they always kept their interactions professional without exception, flirting with anitubers and asperging over nobodies like IDs are doing is just pure retardation, if it was a seiyuu I'd understand, and even then the JPs kept it professional for the majority of time, but faggots who would most likely cancel matsuri if they could aren't any good.

>>2658425
SHE KEEPS GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>2660849
You know when you make these soijack posts you're supposed to not actually give (you)s to the person who you're mocking, this is like /qa/ day one stuff

>>2660672
He has no point, he clearly has no idea what he's talking about, a complete outsider to the medium trying to force his way in and change how things work. Western streamers have this bizarre complex where they think the audience just has to go along with whatever they want, never understanding that the streamer provides a product to their audience. The audience dictates to the streamer what they want out of them.

>>2660871
No one cares what he has to say that’s the point, unsolicited advice is fucking obnoxious. Almost as obnoxious as a bottom feeder preying on the weakest link for attention.

Are you guys for real or is this just for fun

>>2660672
>people here care more about the company than the talents at this point
I care about the vibes of hololive, the reason I got in is to stay away from the western faggotry, yet the IDs decided to bring it back to me even when the fucking EN stayed away.

>>2660823
Gura actually already sparked that with her loli avatar.

So far the girls who get the most shit from western antis are

Gura

Haachama

matsuri

>>2660973
Both.

>>2660871
>hololive fans are weird

>>2660672
>the fans shouldnt decide what the streamer does because they are their own person
>but me, faggot eceleb, can decide what the fans should and shouldnt like. their opinion doesnt matter
lmao

>>2660977
Then don't watch them retard, you're the one that looks for yabs to complain about

>>2660906
Calm down, faggot, I agree that Ollie and Iofi are out of line here. I'm an idolfag myself, I just think people who think the girls are all actors playing characters are retarded. They're clearly streaming as themselves behind an avatar, that doesn't mean they get to ignore company and fan rules as we're seeing here.

>>2660986
You must be joking not including Kiara who's gotten cat gore sent to her and her life threatened

I thought you guys hate idol culture and unirosn

>>2660986
Gura and Haachama are saints.

>>2661026
kiara has a shit ton of haters rather than antis.

>>2661026
..and? lol stop shoving your chicken whore into every conversation.

>>2660747
It's because most of ID fans are not idolfag, retard. All ID member already throw their idol status since day one.

>>2660643
I just hate how pathetic she sounds when she fangirls like this I don’t understand the appeal

>>2660928
probably because it's a better atmosphere when the streamer and viewers get along and respect each other rather than the streamer being a puppet for their viewers, having to tiptoe around things that upset them

>>2660986
Most of these articles were ignored doe even by the talents, if something actually happens with connor 100% chance he will talk about it on twitter and all of his sjw friends will join his side to ''change the industry''

>>2661027
This board loves getting angry over trivial shit more than it hates idolfaggotry

>>2661027
People who hate idol culture were always a vocal minority among Hololive fans, I mean for fuck's sake, it's an IDOL company. Only redditors who have no fucking idea what they're talking about talk about "toxic idol culture" perpetually.

>>2661027
I hate Unicorns. Not idol culture. Don't get the two conflates, it has never been antiethical for an idol to collab with males if she chooses to do so. It's got nothing to do with the fact that he's male and everything to do with the fact that he is an attention whoring faggot whose value system goes against the company weasling his way in through a girl he thinks he can exploit.

>>2660672
Fuck off welsh nigger. The customer is always right.

>>2660738
You don’t need a bitch in check to be a man you stupid nigger hell you don’t even need a bitch at all

>>2661093
Anya hold onto idol status so she has no fan... logical....

>>2661005
for real tho, when I saw that vid of connor dressing up in that stupid shit, I knew something was wrong with him. No normal man would do something like that. But bitches will be like, "He's comfortable with himself thats why he does it." Miss me with that, crossdressing is a warning sign, this fagbag is on to some suspicious bullshit

>>2661083
You said
>So far the girls who get the most shit from western antis are
and didn't include the girl who actually gets the most shit from western antis you absolute mong

>>2661124
>the customer is always right
the majority of fans want the collab, they must be right then?

>>2661037
I agree, that doesn't stop blue bird from hating them though.

>>2661104
>>2661013

>>2660836
I wasn't even talking about vtubers faggot just the cucked youth in general, also you'll never see these fags approaching indies

>>2658950
get out there and voice your concerns on the platform they use. if that's to hard for you just dislike their their stream and don't watch them live (you can still watch the vod) not watching them live will make them notice the declining viewership and make them wonder what went wrong.

>>2661214
Then read the reply chain next time faggot because the entire conversation was about vtubers.

Connor is reading these threads right now and laughs at (You)

>>2660921
>You know when you make these soijack posts you're supposed to not actually give (you)s to the person who you're mocking, this is like /qa/ day one stuff

>>2661254
You're still doing it

>>2658086
It's not too late to invest in Daggercoin

>>2660906
>id member saying hi and have interaction with anituber
>how dare they flirting in front of me

Seriously take your meds, when did the last time you talking with a girl who wasn't your mom?

>>2659845
Why are you here?

>>2659449
B-Bakana
He lifts weights and he's gay

>>2661019
>I just think people who think the girls are all actors playing characters are retarded
Oh I agree anon, I just didnt word it properly, I wanted to say I found their behaviour purely unprofessional, as the one reason I like hololive is the standards they got and these both are completely ignoring it.

>>2661014
>Then don't watch them retard
>Join a company with rules and way of doing things
>Do it for a while
>Change the way of doing it and wanting to break rules
Fuck off, I used to watch them, I would if they stopped asperging again. They should have joined nijisanji if they wanted to "branch out"

It does leave a bad taste in my mouth..the thought that they might just be trying to jump on Hololive popularity and are treating ID as a pawn..hope it is not the case though

>>2660672
So he says they are deciding for them, then brings up an example of them having an opinion on what the vtubers are doing?

People are allowed to have an opinion on what vtubers are doing. If they're superchatting them or being persistent about it then it gets creepy. But a single expression of dissatisfaction on a tweet or comment level is not out of line. After that, if they don't want to follow that, then don't watch, unsub, unfollow, etc. Simple as.

im only sad because a vtuber will never react like this to me when i type 2 letters in chat

>>2661352
In Japan being really muscular is looked at as gay, I mean gyms are really homosocial environments to begin with, just watch any gachihomo meme video

>>2661104
The streamer-audience relationship requires compromise, that means the streamer doesn't get to ignore their audience and the audience should allow flexibility within reason. Breaking all of the established fan rules like this is not within these boundaries.

>>2660672
We had this clip before. He's wrong about us not caring. But I don't want my oshi to be miserable over her job and lack of individual freedom. I don't see why I should disagree with him on that.
>>2660928
>The audience dictates to the streamer what they want out of them.
No, that's backwards. If an eceleb or streamer or chuuba just does nothing interesting to you, you don't become part of their audience to begin with. Doesn't mean the audience goes along with everything or that it should even do that, but you can always leave if you don't like it, and no streamer or chuuba is required to go over for you as long as they can find someone to sell their product to.
>>2661005
Hololive fans are weird, that's me

So this is what the hypothetical e-celeb board would look like...

>>2659845
Do us all a favor leave and take the rope with you

>>2661014
I won't be surprised if half of them are just trolling but the other half is genuinely retarded loser.

>>2658402
It is arrogance because he knows she'll know him, he's only commenting "hi" because he knows she'll know him. Thats very obviously arrogant.

>>2661325
yesterday, your mum anon.

And if you don't see them asperging on media, ollie being jealous and the whole Id treating him like a celebrity, then you are either blind or just a retarded contrarian.

>>2661363
What rules? They have a manager and they'd be notified if they broke any rules. Sounds like you're imposing your own rules onto them

>>2660871
>I dont understand why they dont like it
Spoken like a emotionally stunted faggot incapable empahie
>Those hololive people laughing at them
>Only my opinion can be right I cant fathom the possibility of different opinions
>Hurr respect streamers. Bow to my needs
Nigger you are the one being paid not the other way around

Low IQ takes from low lQ person

>>2659389
Fuck off. The stars know and follow the rules within the company. They would get wiped off if they would ever put their hands on female talent.

>>2659979
Gatekeep, faggots need to stop being scared of gatekeeping the fuck out of vtubers.

>>2661485
>Ollie literally in a video: I want to break the hololive rules!
>Sounds like you're imposing your own rules onto them

You are not even a clipwatcher, go back connor.

>>2660973
I treat the ID’s like I treat them in NASFAQ, for shitposting only.

>>2659453
You dont belong here, fuck off.

>>2661577
They don't fuck the female talent, but it's definitely not because of company policy kek

>>2660649
???

>>2661434
e-celeb board should totally be a thing because these threads sure as shit don't belong here

Can Ollie not YAB for at least a week. What's attracting western men to want to get into the zombie panties? I'm guessing Ollie's high energy and screams and they imagine how it will translate into bed once they finish the grooming process.

>>2661466
I mean if you thib having 2 million people subscribe to your youtube account doesn't count as being celebrity, how much subscriber do you have on your youtube account anon?

>>2661580
Gatekeeping is a meme the way you guys use it. How do you plan on gatekeeping literal 13 year olds from watching Hololive if it shows up on their YouTube recommendations? They don't use Twitter so you can't call them faggots, they don't use 4chan so you can't spam loli porn at them to filter them. It's entirely impossible to prevent anituber junkies from entering le Reddit Hololive rabbit hole. Give up.

>>2661651
Australia was a prison colony for Britain, a Western nation.

>>2661637
>he lacks critical information

>>2658446
>>2658446
>>2658446

Nooo not moona too, please

>>2661744

>>2661252
I laugh at him living on the street or flipping burgers when his youtube shtick inevitably crumbles

>>2661770
>he does not have the required info

>>2661191
The ones who actually pay regularly won't like it and her income will go down significantly.

>>2661730
the majority of the world was conquered by a European nation at some time in the past
Is India western because it was owned by Britain?
Is Japan a western nation because it was taken over by the US post WW2?

>>2661651
When we're talking about "western countries" we're talking about first world countries with central European languages and culture. Australia in particular is part of the anglosphere and the British commonwealth, so it's western.

>>2661699
>being a 2M subs anituber makes you a celebrity worth asperging and gosling
that's what he said

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why older VTubers are better. More experience, more character, and more careful about not sparking controversy.

>>2660672
Yes because the company has standards the talent they take in dont. The new hires have to be taught those standards or and if they refuse to comply they should GTFO.

>>2658086
Indogs can't handle it.

>>2661485
ID manager's? Lol

>>2661591
Maybe you should follow your own advice and listen to what she said retard.
https://streamable.com/31h1f6

>>2661807
No, because Indians aren't western European white men. Australians are.

>>2661698
Ollie was the only one that started responding to them. That cdawgva guy tried with several of the ENs before moving onto ID.

>>2661830
I think this is just another reason to not let literal high schoolers work for you really, you'd think they'd have learned after the Kurisu incident.

>>2661782
Even 10 years ago when I was what? 17?! I always viewed youtube and streaming as a side job/hobby. For the people that make a career out of it...when happens when they get old? Are they going to be a 40 year old guy still talking about "muh waifu anime" shit? That's fucking cringe.

>>2661817
Is India western then?
they were taken over by Britain, have more English speakers then any other country on Earth besides the US and are in the British Commonwealth?
no, obviously not

>>2661703
>give up
You're obviously one of the retards that needs to be gatekept, first we have to start with the faggots here that obviously dont belong. Gatekeeping clipfags is less of an issue because they're contained for the most part but becoming vocal about the dumb shit that people like Ollie and Kiara does is something that needs to be done. Gatekeeping can easily work its just that everyone here is a pussy and wont enforce it.

>>2661860
Thanks for proving me right, retarded nigger.
If she didn't like it she could have gone to other place, I'm this close to going chink on her hastags

>>2661808
How do you know that anon, it's been months since ollie first interaction with anitubers but her red SC is still the same.

>>2661577
This anon’s right. Just ask Kaoru’s wife lol

>>2661807
You could argue that the Australian Aboriginals are an Eastern people, but modern day Australians are Anglo stock. Geographically, yes, Australia is Eastern, but when people say Western and Eastern, it's primarily in reference to two very separate regions of culture and power.

>>2661860
BASED SHE SHOULD COLAB WITH POKIMANE

>>2661917
Should honestly start doing so, push ollie out of HL.

>>2661901
he will just go back to being a voice actor it's not that deep

>>2661703
There's a difference between a slow burn where these people come in little by little over the years and a fast decay when anitubers bring them all in droves anon.

I bet you that some if not a significant part of their audience would never hear or try to watch vtubers naturally and organically.

This is the crux of the issue, the audience anitubers bring and the velocity/quantity in which they bring it.

>>2661932
He's half Japanese, you can't weasel out of Japan being Eastern can you?

>>2660266
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Riqw_AdYZE
>Mori is getting groomed too

>>2660672
Kek, honestly just sounds like he's salty he can't leech off of the bigger streamers anymore

why don't Hololive manager stop her?

>>2661963
I disagree that Ollie needs to graduate, we should push for ID management to put a leash on her and Iofi. Ollie doesn't seem like a bad person, she's just young and stupid.

>>2661969
>voice actor
For anime abridge series? Bro...really?

>>2658986
ENMA HATE

>>2661911
So your idea of gatekeeping is keeping retards off of 4chan? The majority of vtuber fans don't even lurk this website. Please explain how you plan on gatekeeping clipfags from watching clips and becoming Hololive fans. Please keep in mind that these people stick to heavily moderated communities like Reddit and Discords where any dissent gets you banned. You gonna call Discord kiddies names? You gonna wrack up your Leddit karma to finally post and then get immediately banned? You're naive and idealistic.

>>2661980
They will bring their thousand retards that never cared or will care beyond the most casual thing, move the current fanbase out and then the only losers will be the girls.

>>2662032
You cant be a pussy on the matter, it will just give them more chances to fuck over the industry.

>>2661997
Japan is certainly Eastern. I wasn't really talking about the anituber guy. That being said, he's culturally a Westerner.

>>2662037
he was a voice actor for commercials and did the Shipping Forecast if I remember correctly
he made a living from voice acting

>>2661901
You make it big and invest your money.
If you dont you flip burgers or become a "community manager" because you have "internet experience" and have to suck dick on twitter for a iving
>>2661969
He'll probably make more flipping burgers than as a VA let's be honest here

>>2662057
>not reading before replying
try again, faggot.

>>2661908
>first world countries with central European languages and culture
Maybe read my reply before asking stupid-ass questions?

>>2662069
This issue hasn't reached the point where it's destructive enough to warrant graduation, if Cover graduates her for this it will just look bad. Management just needs to get strict, it will be good for their image.

https://youtu.be/leC2IyytnOw?t=57

>>2662122
I did. If you can't comprehend how my post relates to yours without needless quotations there's no helping you.

>>2661431
>But I don't want my oshi to be miserable over her job and lack of individual freedom.
Oh come on. If these poor girls are so oppressed, then they can just leave and get some other gig. When I work as Donald Duck in Disney Land, then I fucking have to act that role and not do shit that does not belong into the family friendly world that is DIsney land. That is the job. Nobody is shocked by this or demands that Donald Duck actors need moar freedom to fulfil themselves.
Have a look at Vshojo if you wanna see what these streamers would be like if nobody kept them in check.

>>2658566
Truer words were never spoken. Greens are already here, browns are coming soon.

>>2662128
so it's not western because it's not a central European Language?
does that make the US, England and Canada eastern then too?
given that English comes from England which is not in central europe?

>>2660672
>People shouldn’t tell people who they can collab with...
They can if they are fucking professionals on a goddamn team. You don’t see professional athletes playing for other teams for no fucking reason you ignorant asshole!? It’s called professionalism, if Hololive wants to let them it’s their call not yours you fucking idiot.

>>2661431
>No, that's backwards. If an eceleb or streamer or chuuba just does nothing interesting to you, you don't become part of their audience to begin with. Doesn't mean the audience goes along with everything or that it should even do that, but you can always leave if you don't like it, and no streamer or chuuba is required to go over for you as long as they can find someone to sell their product to.
Yes? Nobody is denying that. All people are doing is saying: "we do not like XYZ" If the streamer wants to do it anyway, then that is up to her but why that Connor faggot is rebuking the audience for simply not liking something.

>>2662141
>if Cover graduates her for this it will just look bad.
No it wouldnt and if you let it reach the point where its destructive enough then we'll already be at a loss. What she's doing now is spitting in the face of Cover and expecting nothing bad to happen. They need to make an example out of Ollie so literally no one else does the same as her as we already know theres more problems in the company.

>>2662231
This guy gets it.

>>2662231
streaming is not a team sport
plus Hololive has let many of there talents stream with outsiders before so it's not a big deal lol

>>2662183
Why is it so hard to understand for some retards that what many people likes of hololive is their standards compared to some indies? If I wanted Vshoujo I'd watch Vshoujo, not fucking hololive.

>>2662169
You didnt, i said gatekeeping clipfags is less of an issue and you went on to ask on how they can be gatekept. Clipfags gatekeep themselves simply by sticking to clips and nothing else, they're not an issue.

>>2662313
why is it so hard for you to realise that a lot of people like non hololive talents and want to see there favourite hololivers stream with other streamers

>>2658086
For the Anime Man himself (2.8 million subs) to notice you is a huge accomplishment. For CdawgVA (2.05 million subs) to notice you AND play Apex with you is a huge accomplishment. And now, there's a chance for gigguk (2.92 million subs) to come into the fray, potentially setting up an opportunity for Ollie to appear on Trash Taste like Mori and gain even more worldwide recognition. She literally can't stop winning at this point.

>>2662076
Even though his upbringing was western, I'd say he at least understands Japanese culture better than 99% of people on this board. His mother is Japanese and has imparted their culture on him and he's lived and worked in Japan for like 6 years now.

>>2662308
These collabs were always hold to professional standards, not to asperging and gosling over an anituber that even slandered their fanbase before out of rage.

>>2662385
that's what these simps don't understand

>>2662358
Less of an issue implies that they are still an issue. You can't even comprehend what you wrote yourself.

>>2662156
>tfw she's a yab machine basically because she's young and stupid

>>2662222
I though England is included in "central europe", so I'll correct my statement. And say, European countries excluding the Iberian peninsula.

>>2662382
That's exactly what other bunch of people don't want, just like they can express that, I will express my opinion, they have to get hold to a standard, Vshoujo already got BTFO'd, trash taste too, soon it will be that faggot.

>>2662008
cuckbeats would love it, I dont really care.

>>2662435
Something being an issue doesnt mean we need to focus on it, its less important but still important. You'll probably never fix the issues that come from clipfagging but you can fix the outcome that comes from them. One being more important than the other.

>>2662141
Just graduate her and pretend it is because of something else.

>>2662476
BTFO'd?

>>2662385
>Connor said Hololive wouldn't be allowed back to TT
we keep winning, fuck ID and fuck anitubers.

>>2662308
The only reason we are even talking about this is because she is Hololive. It’s a corporation, they hired her, promote her, and gave her status and credibility. If she wants to be an individual go right ahead, but don’t think she would even matter at all if it wasn’t for the team she joined. Leave your avatar at the door and get the fuck out maybe Cummer will pay your rent from now on, have fun chasing you bliss or whatever.

>>2662496
And how do you plan on preventing this outcome? Do share.

>>2662270
Agreed, although I would suggest to publicly give some other reason so that there will not be a ton of white knights demanding Cover to change its ways.

>>2662382
>a lot of people
I don't care about what "a lot of people" like; I watch vtubers specifically because they're anime girls and not 3dpd, if I wanted to look at someone's ugly face on my screen I'd just go join a Teams meeting at work.

>>2662308
That's what the charm of hololive is about, it feels like a team, you would know if you watched tho.

>>2662547
With how things are, we'll get white knights no matter what, dealing with the issue sooner will probably mean less white knights at this point.

>>2662385
Gigguk simps for Hololive not the other way around.
https://youtu.be/UJ9mH4YC6MY

>>2660267
I don't watch Ollie, I will not watch Ollie, but her mere presence in ID has ruined it, Reine is an apex addict, Iofi is now unfiltered and can gush over e celebs now since ollie doesn't get shit for it, and moona is a super autist so she just does whatever ollie or iofi are doing

>>2662738
Keep it classy Reine, you are the saving grace of HoloID. No offense Moona you're cool to.

>>2662524
Absolutely this! The sense of entitlement some of these people have is disgusting. They owe their popularity almost exclusively to that company, since many of them already streamed individually before and did not get a fraction of the audiece they have now, yet they act as if they are made it all on their own and are only held back by the company.

>>2662842
Sorry I should rephrase this: many of their followers act like that, is what I should have said.

>>2662385
the chance is pretty small, since Ollie treat them like a god, they will just belittle Ollie and make it as just an opportunity to dig into EN branch.

It would be different if Ollie just play it cool, equal, have the same ground in the first time.

it's business afterall

>>2662385
>subs mattering
>when you're in the company that has the biggest vtubers in the industry, the most superchatted vtubers in the industry, where you can be friends with famous mangakas and VAs easily
Only ollie is as retarded to care about getting attention from anitubers because she's a zoomer

>>2662543
Well for starters it would be good to be vocal against the retarded bullshit that gets spewed by obvious SEAniggers and the like. Being vocal in places will simply let people know that people dont like this rather than what we have now. Right now these faggots run free without any dissenting opinion what so ever so they feel like this is something thats ok for them to do. How the hell will Cover know that this is an issue if we just let it continue without any level of dissent?

>>2658171
ENMA LOVE!

>>2662941
This anon get's it.

In actuallity, Ollie is not on the same ground as them, she is above them because they want to break into the vtubers audience and she can "give them" that. She should act as such.

>>2662987
So you plan on gatekeeping people by... voicing dissenting opinions to them? Where, in YouTube comments? On Twitter? Nobody is going to feel threatened by an opposing opinion unless you start calling them niggers or something, and in both cases that'll get you instantly regarded as "not worth taking seriously" type. Dissenting opinions do not keep anybody out, especially when echo chambers like Reddit and Discord will always exist to validate their opinions. I agree that Cover should be informed that people aren't happy with their talent's decisions, but this doesn't gatekeep anyone.

>>2658171
He even ordered Ina to draw him as a female and ordered everyone to refer to him as a woman so purityfags don't realize he's nakadashiing all of them on a daily basis.

>>2662385
>A girl getting noticed by a guy is an accomplishment
These losers mean nothing to me nor the industry. Get James May in a collab then we'll talk.

>>2662385
>>She literally can't stop winning at this point.
awww so naive, comeback when you've grown enough to taste the true bitter of how the world works.

>>2658086
Why are you spergs getting riled up now but when they were collabing with Holostars you don't even budge?
gtfo

>>2663426
>Holostars

There's your answer

>>2662941
and the ID managers are retarded enough to not tell her that

>>2663426
Do you know the difference between some random slob with a camera and a vtuber coworker?

>>2661901
If I were in their shoes I would be very prudently saving in hopes of if/when this bubble bursts, I will have enough in savings to get by with working a some random job. Doesn't he teach English in Japan still or something. Maybe he can use this experience to pivot into some anime industry job though or go back to school with the youtube money he made

>>2663426
their dicks are possibly smaller

>>2663131
>but this doesn't gatekeep anyone.
Its this sort of pussy mentality that makes the issue worse, it does gatekeep, you see this shit in single person threads here all the time. Its all about making someone feel unwanted or not welcomed, while i agree that reddit and discord are issues, it would be very beneficial to make these people feel unwelcomed outside of their hugboxes. No we cant call them nigger, no we cant send them gore to scare them out but that would be a poor way to deal with people interested in Vtubers in general. We simply need to make them feel like their views are in lower number than ours.

>>2663426
now? where have you been?

>>2661901
Some people make it work.

>>2663518
But anon, the issue is "anons getting angry she's collabing with a male."

>>2663638
Literally nobody cares about IDs collabing with males, they collab with holostars all the time, risu collabs with an indie ID homo with a terrible design all the time, the problem is that ollie is collabing with someone that is 1. not a vtuber, even worse an anituber 2. is only using her to get into the vtuber crowd 3. is a trash person that hates what hololive has been for ages

>>2663597
>it does gatekeep, you see this shit in single person threads here all the time
Again, barely any vtuber fans lurk here. A few retards being kicked out from this board means fuck all. Besides, this board does an awful job at gatekeeping. How many anti-idolfags do you see in this very thread despite that not being the majority opinion here? People don't feel threatened by dissenting opinions, even if they are in the minority. They stick to their fringe groups that will validate their opinions regardless of the numbers behind them. I'm sure you're aware that society overall is anti-loli, and yet you still participate in society despite having a positive view of loli. You just keep that shit to yourself. You are naive to think any number of people could keep unfavorable types away.

I hate that faggot but I support this for the sole reason that it makes you seeth. Remember that one day EN will also recline hard enough to justify a collab with e-celebs. your seething will be glorious

>>2663854
Who's this (You)? Your tulpa?

>>2663762
They don't hate Hololive.............

>>2663808
>You just keep that shit to yourself.
This is literally the point, as long as faggots who enjoy the bullshit Ollie does stay silent then it becomes a non-issue. Especially when it comes to covers view on what westerners feels about what Ollie and other problem girls do as a whole, as things are right now we have a mass majority of SEAnigs thinking Ollies "break the rules" behavior is a good thing and theres no one pushing otherwise in a good vocal manner. I understand that this board in a major minority when it comes to vtuber fans, i was just making an example. I also agree that the gatekeeping here is dogshit, it was part of my original point, people here are pussies when it comes to it.

>>2663963
What video?

>>2658566
I was saying this 8 months ago and I was told to fuck off.
Hololive and vtubing in general is past their gold age. The final yab is upon us

>>2663963
>nijisanji
>simp
most of them dont even enable superchat tf he's on about

>>2664160
It was fun while it lasted

>>2663963
what video he is referring to?

>>2661580
nigger you have several talents with more than a million subscribers. what gatekeep??

>>2663963
ogey chang

>>2664105
They hate idol culture which is the foundation of Hololive.

>>2664251
it's not the foundation . It's something that didn't exist before the third generation

>>2664138
I see your point. But I still think it's impossible for the small amount of people here to push their opinion to such a noticeable way that those who support Ollie's behavior are forced to be quiet. The last time I saw posters here band together to do anything they achieved a whopping 70 dislikes on a video they didn't like compared to thousands of likes. There is simply not enough manpower to strongarm anyone.

>>2664298
>It's something that didn't exist before the third generation
Do your hololive reps.

>>2663854
Who are you talking to schizo-kun?

It should be stated that this is a yab not because 'C-connor is fucking my oshi!', Ollie blatantly has a boyfriend. What she does in her own time is her business. The fucking issue here is that this motherfucker is a fucking attention whoring faggot leech, that includes Anime Man and Gigguk.
>>2662385
This faggot is why shit like this can just pass and could potentially end up creating a massive shitstorm. The idea of being exempt from being a leech because you have big numbers is retarded. If you're following a trend just to get the opportunity to bank on it, you're a leech regardless of how 'big' you are. That applies to everything, but just look at the TT guys. Before the most they did was send in a superchat or appear in chat, which ended horribly because it completely derailed the chat which is bad enough as is. These guys (specifically the one who was outright against the fad) are clearly trying to bank on the vtubing fad before it runs its course and there going through the easy targets in ID. Look how fast Connor jumped ship when Ame outright ignored him and the shit he brought in chat, I don't see him bringing her up any longer probably because he can't milk her dry. Look what happened with Mori, she goes on the podcast and the management hold her off from getting too crazy with the collabs and look what he does. He acts like some authority and pretends that everyone against collabing with outsiders is a problem, despite the audience it would bring in are just as bad, if not worse, than idolfags. Also look who he's interacting with, fucking Gen 1 and Ollie. No Anya, who's THE lowest subbed Holo, and Reine, who's got an Indo death squad that is ready to be released on any potential yab. Also the fucker might actually give attention to Anya, where he tells his retard fans to sub and then proceed to act like a savior for boosting her and hold that over everyone's fucking heads. This shit should be filtered through management, and I'm completely against EN's management blatant restrictions on their communication with the JP girls but that doesn't mean I'm now okay with the complete polar opposite. Fuck TT, fuck CDawg, fuck AnimeMan, fuck Gigguk, and FUCK ALL THESE LEECHES.

>>2658566
>>2664160
>>2664185
G-guys... when vtubing eventually becomes another pozzed with politics, where do I go???

>>2664308
I feel like keeping a defeatist attitude on it will only make it worse though. Im sure theres people upset about what Ollies doing outside of here or that would be upset if they simply knew. Staying quiet is only going to get Hololives situation deeper in the hole then it already is now.

This thread proves that Connor was right about chuuba fans being creepy weirdos

>>2664471
Wish i knew, i probably wont leave my Oshi but everything else getting ruined will probably make me give up on the rest. For now keep an eye on JP indies.

>>2664298
>It's something that didn't exist before the third generation
GFE does not equal idol culture retard

>>2664510
Guess who pays the bills, hint: it's not the normal fans that might send $5 on a special event

>>2664446
Based.

>>2664510
Kill yourself you fucking tourist trash. Or keep sucking his cock, maybe he'll notice you one day too

>>2664595
I don't think towa or matuli are starving to death rn.

I'm kinda glad Ollie is a huge menhera that is afraid of some of the EN girls (Kiara lole, Gura cause of her numbers, Ina cause she seems too quiet, and Ame cause she's too afraid to call her a friend due to past drama in her childhood) so I'm 100% sure that this and EN management will keep these faggots away from our girls

>>2663426
>Holostars
Co-workers
>Connor
Some fucking weasel who failed to do his magic with EN and moved to a weaker link (Ollie).

>>2664446
/thread.
Hope those retarded anitubers don't touch Reine. They're annoying enough as it is.

>>2664510
You don’t belong here and neither does that faggot cocksucker, Connor. Kill yourself.