/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Carve out a niche that is a stepping stone from Indy to the big corpos. Basically become holo/ninji minor league system that actually finds good talent and gets them ready for the next step.

do something better with your money

>>26512848
Don't hire whores

Hire me as a manager so I can groom the girls

Do males or do girls, DON'T DO BOTH

>>26512848
The market is kinda full and unless you offer something new that no one else is offering you will fail and get pathetic numbers

Get only trannies and use rhombus as your exclusive rigger. Make sure to always talk in chat so the talent has someone they can focus on so they don't kill themselves. And take 75% not 50%.

>>26512848
My advice is to give me all your money.

Go look at Tsunderia and it's history, and do the complete opposite of that. Probably the same with other small corpos, just learn what they went through over the years, learn from their mistakes and brace for the hardcomings. Similarly analyze phase and learn why they're doing well despite every other small company being a shitshow

>>26513036
What if they're all incredibly androgynous.

>>26512848
Invest in crypto, it can only go up from here.

>>26512848
do NOT hire women who do GFE, and if you do, make sure they know what the fuck theyre doing

>>26513051
Roru
Rumao
Please don't work in marketing.

>>26512848
Please don't. Invest your money in some other business instead anon.

>>26513051
I still think there is a market for well funded professional group. PC is the best the English side has and even that is laughable budget-wise.

You think you want /here/ tubers but you don't. Look into Pippa and Lumi and see the countless drama they've dealt with.
People always want to change the game but the best method is still Hololive. Little to no male collabs and managers on the talents ass so they can't tweet some stupid shit or get up to dumb shit on discord ''with the squad''.

>>26512848
Let's be honest you just want to have a harem of vtubers who call you daddy.

>>26513083
I actually think Phase is kind of fucked. Pippa being /here/ helped but long term their entire company is too yab to go to the big leagues. Their reason for survival is the financials and it being set up like a real company not some high school drop outs college fund money.

>>26513094
so you hire girls and traps? or tomboys and dudes

>>26512848
Never hire vtubers who use 4chan
Do not hire retards who debuff themselves
Do not hire retards who never stream or stream everyday

Know what you're doing on the technical side of things and be ready to actually be helpful and useful when the talent's hardware decides it doesn't want to help you rake in the dosh.

>>26513094
>>26513287
now this is sex

>>26512848
Do not hire westerners

>>26513287
tomboys and femboys

>>26513567
I will now watch your chubbas.

Disregard /vg/ opinions, we would bankrupt a vtuber company faster than anyone.

Are you willing to stick with it for a minimum of two years?

>>26512848
Grab a rope then neck yourself faggot

>>26513730
Absolutely. I have up to 7 digits to invest right at the start and can absolutely keep it going as long as needed.

>>26512848
give the girls a spanking when they act up

>>26513433
I can save this pc.

>>26512848
I think Salome's main strength is that she recognizes that vtubing, much like any other thing that makes you money in this world, is a job. The reason she was able to surpass literally everyone in Nijisanji is that she is the only person with the work ethic to stream for exactly one hour everyday.

>>26512848
Make EN VSPO

>>26514536
Most ignorant post in this thread.

>>26512848
Anykara is public, invest in anykara

>>26514536
No, it's because she is one of the only ones that understands that this is a character she's playing, and not just streaming with an avatar and a funny voice.

>>26512982
spbp

>>26513187
Can I get a qrd on them?

>>26513363
This right here. An okay streamer can learn to be a great streamer with the right coaching but you can't train work ethic. Talent isn't worth shit without the drive to back it up.

>>26512848
Imagine flexing your social status on an anonymous image board.

>>26512848
hire autistic women with cute voices and people will watch

>>26512848
Only hire whores

My advice is that you should get a girlfriend. If already so, enjoy your life and hobbies.

hire exclusively desperate /here/ femanon.
turn a blind eye to their discord usage.
greenlight mod applications of their "online friend" (code for boyfriend).
but ban any private interactions between the talents.
after debut, force them to collab once every two days for a month, while continuing the ban.
wait for two to three months.
fire half the managers and announce that the worst performing OR the talent with public scandals will be graduated.
spend money botting to make the Battle Royale more interesting.
rinse and repeat.

>>26512848
Find the most autistic girls you can. The ones that are too autistic to even have a boyfriend.

>>26515814
>to make the Battle Royale more interesting.
After 2 months, have all 3 of them stream at the same time, the one with less viewers graduates.

>>26512848
The thing is, when you're nobody you don't have the merit of the clout of your name being good-enough reason for talented girls to join. You'll get a bunch of people LARPing that they're Holo/Niji Jr. while you larp as a Holo manager/CEO. This may be satisfactory to all involved for a bit, for the girls being able to say they were the cream of the crop of an audition process boosting confidence/willingness to go with the company, and for you being able to pretend to be a lil' Yagoo. If you get even a trickle of subs/money coming in, on seeing tangible success, having more than what you started out with you'll get that "it's starting awww yeah, anyday now, we're gonna really take off"kind of optimism... but, few small corpos have demonstrated an ability to move beyond that and eventually start to sink when seeing growth/income tapering out, that the sky may in fact not be the limit after all. It seems like every single small corpo has between medium to extra-large baggage somewhere in the background and there seems to be a lot of angst internally between management and talents trying to figure out/blame each other for the girls/company not meeting their expectations in results. Not to mention even if you DO find someone excellent and amazing who props up your income/the company's morale? She may just get poached anyway and/or think she's too good for your company and go indie.

Don't expect anything good to happen even if you do basically everything right, because small corpos are just bands of people larping and practicing for their Holo/Niji applications. You would have to pull several extraordinarily talented, committed girls who will not ditch you and who would be truly yab-free and be able to be held to the absolute highest standards. A lot of these types who maybe have some idea what they're doing are already indies who think you'll only offer them a debuff/take some of their pay for little in return. The vetting of who to take in is just tough shit when you might literally only have like 30 applicants of which 27 are god awful and you intended to start with 5 so go with a couple OK ones and grit your teeth and take someone with bad yabs or a shit attitude from the getgo.

Still, best of luck to you.

>>26512848
Make a corp around joke chubas like Salome and hope one of them sticks.

pay for all of their models and let them keep them after they graduate

>>26516231
Keeping this vague to avoid future problems but I do have the ability to not be just another lapping agency. Appreciate what you wrote regardless anon.

>>26516924
Meant to say larping but yeah you get the idea.

>>26516231
>few small corpos have demonstrated an ability to move beyond that
Most if not all small corpos are so dumb I'm covinced they've never studied marketing for even a single minute.

>>26513895
invest in bots, unironically.
>>26514536
salome is botted, her "viewers" can't even superchat but hey at least big numbers look good.

>>26516231
>only have like 30 applicants of which 27 are god awful and you intended to start with 5 so go with a couple OK ones and grit your teeth and take someone with bad yabs or a shit attitude from the getgo.
Retarded operation. Instead, the company should be scouting cute talents from anywhere they can be found. If the talent pool is shallow among currently established vtubers, go literally anywhere else and ask cute girls if they're addicted to games.

NO. MALES.

>>26512848
Even Sony can't do it man. Vtubing is basically gambling at this point, there's always potential to win big but even if you do everything right you're basically reliant on things out of your control lining up. All the legwork is just there to maximize your odds.

>>26512848
Decide your ageny's concept, do you want them to go artist route or gamer route focused. Make a tournament for your talents every two months. Participate in any event if able, like CR Cup or Vsaikyou. Make network with big names in Vtuber industry like Mama and Papa from big agencies, Vocaloid producer like Kanaria, and of course exceptional talents who will stream often enough and this is maybe the most important, social medias. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Tiktok, Youtube and Twitch, maximize all of these platforms with the right contents which have high probability to go viral.

>>26516924
Pondering a bit more on "what would I do if I were actually going to try this" I'd maybe take a vshojo-ish approach, only without their crappy shock value gimmicks. That is, try to scout a bunch of potentially-decent recruits first all of similar size/income bracket (like they all are in 1-2k or 3-5k etc sub brackets or they all have at least 50 or 100 CCV etc) and let them know what the design of the company is. In trying to aim for a couple of small but promising nuggets of chuubas of similar size you don't get any one assuming they're the leader coming in and things can develop more naturally without one overpowering the rest.

As for what to do about their existing models, well that is a question I just can't answer because I don't know myself what I'd ask of them - if I commissioned some already I might give a sneak peek to ones who are in or basically-in and ask if they'd be happy using one of these. Maybe offer to have their model redone so it's a legit redebut or something.

>>26513099
>He doesn't know
Anon remember to never listen to what /biz/ say if you are that new

>>26512848
Two words: female voices with shota models. It's a completely untapped market.

Are you thinking of an english speaking one? Considering you seem to be talking about a reasonably high investment, get chuubas who live closeby enough to each other to have 3D in the near future as a real possibility, that will be a pretty major point in differentiating yourself from other EN corpos, even the big league ones.
A lot of quality chuubas will use small corpo as a stepping stone, as a way to get ready for Holo or quit once they give up on that. The reason they want to get there is either money or because they want to larp as idols, but deep down they know that ENs are second class citizens. If you can actually offer that, it'll be a first for EN.
Basically, create something that will make even HoloEN members think "I wish we had that".
So yeah, a shitload of money.
You also probably want to do some scouting for your gen 1, at least. Now they'll get the best talent applying all year long, but in the earlier days Hololive went after nico nico streamers they thought had potential, and not just indie vtubers, they went after flesh streamers of all kinds. ASMR, singing, whatever it was, if you were used to streaming, they wanted you. Don't expect people who are good enough to join HoloEN to apply to your no name agency. You need to find them yourself.
I have absolutely zero experience running a business of any kind, by the way, and I'm a mere blue collar worker, so don't take my advice.

>>26512848

>>26517559
Dumb fuck ID number roache, what are you trying to prove?

>>26513895
Good, because it'll take more than a single year to gain traction. Most streamers or YouTube channels often need over a year to get rolling. Also think if you want platform flexibility or not. If they'll be on YouTube exclusively, or can use Twitch as a back up or for gurellas. Indies and small corpos are redirecting a little bit on YouTube, but Twitch it is always a more frequent occurrence.

Also think about how you debut your generations. I think some of the small corpos and Niji EN did them well with pros and cons. Some of the small corpos debuted around five members and didn't debut another generation for another six months. It gives variety of vtubers to pick from and the next generation isn't too far off and can help fill out the amount of hours the company streams sooner while not being too soon or late. Where as Niji EN had about three members which is easy to digest and not feel overwhelming and then another two and a half to three months for another three. It allows to keep some sort of debut hype rolling while allowing a smaller portion to be focused on. Personally I'd take the first approach since the second hasn't been seen to be successful yet with a start up corpo.

If some dumbass animetuber decides he's besties with your entire agency because he collab'd with a couple of them once or twice, and then makes a video potentially putting them in danger by taunting swatters in their name, make sure you don't rush out a quick panic-PR statement thanking the dumbass without first consulting with the girls on how you all, as a team, want to address the situation, and make sure that any condemnation and disavowal of him as a person comes from your corporate account, and that the girls themselves stay quiet about it no matter how badly they want to wring his neck.

>>26513234
They are just west nijiJP, you niggers hate yourselves too much

>>26513050
WTF
take 59

dump extra in getting super high quality l2ds because its the only way you're going to stand out immediately

>>26512848

Go full into GFE and parasocial to scoop up the audience being alienated by the current push against such content. They are the biggest paypigs so it will be profitable.
Teach your talents good opsec.
Enforce strict rules about what they can and cannot talk about or tweet, and who they're allowed to interact with. Make sure they understand this is a job, not a hobby.

>>26521287
Investing in L2D is bad, hololive does this shit with the worst outdated garbage in the market. No matter how cool your toy is, if the soul is garbage nobody will care.

>>26512848

>>26518652
Sony did almost nothing and continues to do nothing to market their talents. Outside the first week, how many times have you seen them mentioned anywhere? There are free places to shill your talents, fucking USE THEM AAAA

bump

>>26512848
Go away nux

>>26512848
dont do it unless its money youd throw away, like that youd otherwise use to buy a yacht or something (which youre almost definitely not rich enough to do)
i can guarantee you hololive and niji are hemorrhaging cash and are going to go bankrupt/get acquired for pennies once their investors realise their mistake
if you want actual financial advise, save your cash for a rainy day, bc rainy days are coming

>>26512982
this

>>26522302
hololive doesn't need an opening gambit. obviously talent is the most important part but the hard part for new people in this industry is getting eyes on you

>>26512848
don't expect to make money

>>26513036
This is bad advice.
The majority of one-gender agencies perform poorly with Hololive being the sole exception (and even they technically have males too).
Go look at Kawaii. The only way they can stay afloat is by having their girls whore themselves out with lewd ASMR and constantly showing their boobs.
If you want to go female or male only you need to copy Vshojo and go full lewd pandering.
If you want an actual successful company that isn't just sex stuff you'll want both.

>>26512848
Put all your money into doge coin.

>>26512848
If you want a good product, find cute girls interested in playing video games with no whoring around and no male interactions.

If you want an easy return, just bot viewers and make it japanese so nobody knows if its real or not while you stack cheese.

>>26512848
Go for the Pikamee approach.

Look for that one special girl who is family friendly and likable.
Someone strong enough to carry the whole company.

If your talent collab with males fire them

If you're going western, most of your applicants will look at you as stepping stone to a better company

>>26512848
Don't ask for advice from a bunch of autistic loser faggots like /vt/rannies

>>26512848
The most important thing is to not take advice from /vt/, because this place is extremely stupid and has been wrong in predicting what is successful or not on so many occasions it's ridiculous. Go somewhere else for vtuber/business advice.

>>26512848
be prepared for a lot of emotional labor. your girls have no man to rely on other than you now.

>>26512848
Be wary of using the Hololive approach (no males, heavy GFE). Of course this board adores it but you'll just be putting yourself in a budget-Hololive box where you're trying to wrestle viewers away from a group that's known for their loyal fanbase. I feel like only Hololive can find success with their restrictive model and any smaller company that doesn't have a massive, pre-established fanbase will struggle for growth.

>>26537499
This. Most small companies don't forbid their members from occasionally collabing with the opposite gender or talking about lewd shit for a reason.

>>26536658
What are some examples anon?

>>26534424
I have a 9 digit net worth kek. (I'm not here to discuss that just sharing for the sake of advice since a lot of it seems to be financial worries)

>>26538607
just buy nijisanji then

>>26538607
Sure, in ARS you do. While we're on the subject, got any openings?

Link up with Kevin from phase connect, he did exactly what you want to do. He was an outsider to the vtuber scene but managed to create a pretty decently successful company.

>>26538907
I'd argue that he succeeded only because he had money and made a real company. Almost all the other small corpos are low budget and badly setup. That isn't a concern for me. Long term Kevin is fucked due to the yab members in his lineup never going to go into the mainstream.

>>26539438
>Long term Kevin is fucked due to the yab members in his lineup never going to go into the mainstream.
Gen 2 will save them.

>>26512848
Do a background search on your girls don't hire cosplayers

>>26539481
>Shirara
yeah no

>>26512848
Please make a male-only idol vtuber company please I just want cute boys doing cute things you'll be rolling in the cash I have money to give when I graduate from coding schoolplease there's lots of fujoshi and yumejoshi and female weebs in general that have money to give you know how women buy shit tons of merch for anime and games and characters they like it's the same for vtubers please I beg you PLEASE

Isn't Phase the company with the failed JP branch?

>>26539537
I'm actually considering it, the issue is I spent months researching for a female agency so a lot of my work would be worthless.

>>26521006
This sounds very specific, what happened?

>>26512848
All the smart business moves in the world won't keep you afloat if your talents suck.

>>26512848
Delegate the task and budget to me, and allow me to pretend to be the ceo. Pay me a paltry salary and I will make your company mid-tier within 6 months of debut.

>>26512848
Make sure the talents can stand up on their own. I might be alone or in the smaller group on this, but my biggest problem with NijiEN and HoloEN (mostly Council) for the longest time is that a majority of streams were collabs with other members of their group.
For me collabs should be less common, to keep them "special", and the talent should be building themselves up.
One anon's opinion anyway.

>>26539488
Noel and Coco were fine.

>>26512848
>richfag wants to start a vtuber company
Let me guess, you got that from your mom or dad's inheritance/mutual fund or something?

>>26512848
for fucks sake do quality control of the avatars, either the drawing looks like crap or the rigging, just negotiate the possibility of huge corrections before hand and pick people capable and has a track record of good vtuber avatars

>>26539685
It's nearly the same thing. Hell the guys don't even have to fujobait, we'll create ships and fanart on our own. Just have a group of cool guys, make sure they're actual anime fans, ignore retarded drama, and have them talk about their interests in a nerdy way. They can have some sort of talent but it's not all that necessary since they can be trained to sing and dance and whatever. I don't have many resources myself but I may be able to scrape together a thing or two. Or just ask me (I'm a fujoshi though so I don't know about yumejoshi stuff, but there is a lot of overlap). I just want what the guys have; seeing cute anime boys do cute anime things as a way to escape. I get it can be difficult to find that in the west but I believe it's possible. Also please no trannies

>>26512848
1.Learn how to make a good contact
2.Recruit experience managers or at least 1 who can lead a team
3.Seperate business environment to livers environment
4.Invest in your liver ie good l2d, training, song covers,...
5. tardwangling them in twitter, discord and especially /here/

Here's a question for the thread in general: Do you go with experienced indies or people that are completely new, like never streamed or created content online before?

>>26541317
Hard to say. You don't want to take too much of a risk with someone who's completely new and hasn't done anything before and they end up being a flop. But you also don't want someone to have too much of a presence enough for people to care largely about their PL. Sometimes you just have to trust your gut, sometimes you have to really be careful. I guess it's up to the recruiter. Most people want to stay safe though and get someone who has something to show.

>>26513567
im interested

>>26512848
>purchase casting couch
>hold auditions
>have sex with the whores
>hire the women who refuse to have sex with you

>>26513187
Do you have access to a pool of talents and enough experience to manage them and money. Or are you just going to pick a random titposter from /b/ and have no clue about marketing?

Depending on your answer, it might be a better idea to hire a prostitute instead.

>>26518652
Consistent growth is possible, see Phase Connect.
But business is hard, see literally everyone who jumped on the vtubing corpo bandwagon without business experience.
Thing is, that's not actually any different from any other industry. Most businesses fail.

>>26538607
then you can literally do this: >>26538728
not nijisanji obv but a small org like phaseconnect
im pretty sure you could literally buy phaseconnect if you wanted to if you presented yourself well as an angel investor (and provided theyd be willing to sell the company, which i somewhat doubt unless you offer them something ridiculous)

>>26543956
phaseconnect is not growing their talents have been in the low 10ks for like a year now

>>26512848
just buy a bunch of cars
and then do top gear but with chuubas

>>26512848
No offense but if you're gonna ask vt for advice you're only gonna get stuff that vt likes. Better to get the opinions of the masses that actually provide companies with their viewership numbers. Just go do market research on your own and figure out what you'd wanna do.
That said if you're just fishing for opinions - choose talents fluent in Spanish, French, Hindi or some other top 10 language that hasn't already been claimed by like Indonesian or English. That way you won't have as much competition.

side note if you do end up buying a vtuber group you definitely need to hire some official company clippers (or even off the books fund a handful of semi competent third worlders)
if your streamers are putting out enough hours you could even hire someone (or multiple) full time (as contractors ofc, to avoid giving employee benefits)

1. fill untapped niches like guro and scat
2. don't give any creative freedom
3. have official porn
4. make official sex toy merch
5. poach existing talent and make hostile takeovers if needbe

>>26545053
>Hindi
It's already been proven that Indians don't watch vtubers.

so just thinking about this for 2 seconds you have 2 options:
1. start from scratch
2. buy out a small company

first option will be a lot harder to get going, obviously, but you get to hand pick the talents and youre there from the start, gain respect as a leader, go through shared struggles, etc (only the first point matters). you get to curate a group of talents to your own tastes. probably best to start with someone you know irl who has a good personality and is motivated to be an influencer.
one advantage is that this option is obv less capital intensive, you have more cash to allocate later down the line
but this is hard mode, it will take forever to get off the ground

second option is "easier" (if you manage to pull it off) but you start as an outsider. youll need to present yourself very well bc groups are not going to want to just sell everything theyve worked their asses off for to "some guy", its their baby. small company founders probably want to see their project succeed. nobody will trust you. and no founder wants to just give up on their dream. but many more profit minded entreprenuers will immediately sell their company for a good enough price.
say you make a very nice linkedin page with lots of bullshit about your background as an angel investor or something, idk. you might have to scam them to let them know youre serious. or get some lawyers or something to draft proposals idk how this shit works.
but say you buy one, you need to not drive it into the ground. you need lawyers to draft contracts for your workers. hire clippers. shill hard. company hired clippers are something i see surprisingly little of, do it and do it very well, better than anyone else. sell merchandise. etc.

>>26544932
sir are you blind?

>>26548290
what? they are literally all low 10ks or less that is an objective fact

>>26548290
>>26548393
10k subs*
forgot to add the unit kek

>>26512848
For the love of Jesas, please scout properly and carefully. The least you want is a big yab. Also, decide if you want just a Vtubing company or you want to do like Hololive and add the idol part, but remember; the people who would get in must practice their singing and dance steps (the last when the time comes for 3D events).

>>26512848
Hire only the most mentally unstable women you can possibility find. Excellent entertainment guaranteed

>>26512848
just send an email to the small corpos and see if any of them are looking for investors. notable small corpos that speak english are:

Phase Connect - the best performing one imo. probably your best bet. even if they don't sell, if they talk to you, you can probably get the lay of the land from them. just hit one year old. gen2 is on the way. gen1 has the best ccv across the roster of all small corpos. crazy active fanbase

Tsunderia - just had 2/3 of their talents graduate. in the middle of recovering. management has been known to be lackluster after the last one left. don't know how open they are. oldest en small
corpo.

Kawaii - JP owned. Not sure how well business will mesh. 7/10 talents remain, with a new wave on the way. A typical one man show by their top performing talent. Not sure if open to sell because they just finished a successful kickstart campaign.

Heavenrend - just felt like listing them for comprehensiveness. 3/4 talents remaining. the latest one they released is interesting, but the company is kind of unnoticed.

Amberglow - similar to heavenrend, slightly bigger.

PRISM - king of dead subs. JP owned. Owner recently sold it to SONY.

AkioAir - relatively new player. has some high production value, but hasnt been able to establish themselves yet.

Idol - lol. rumor has it that it's started by an online internet scammer. Probably the easiest one to buy if you are willing to pay.

Myholo - SEA company. can't really gauge how they do in the EN market, but they've been alive for a while.

V&U - very new company with 4 talents. although 2 announced very recently that they are going on hiatus.

>>26548426
4 of their members are in their 30ks, approaching 40k. only the two JP members are sub 10k.

>>26548542
this is not true
the most popular chuubas in hololive are mentally stable: pegor, koone, migo, etc
you look at the reverse, the most mentally ill: guro, its extremely niche and will always be niche
even rushia level mental illness just becomes a liability

>>26548753
yeah 30ks is low 10ks, its sub 50k, thanks for proving my point

>>26548703
this is the best reply in the thread. be very professional.

>>26548754
>mentally stable
>pegor
roru
rumao even

>>26548838
ohh brain fart i see what you meant

>>26548703
Issue is I like none of these companies except maybe Phase. I'd consider if I'd produce the entire thing but thats doubtful. All of them are too shitty quality or have too much drama I'd rather just start fresh with the reputation and capital I have.

>>26513363
Worse advice ever. More than half of HoloEN and NijiEN are confirmed /here/. The rest are probably /here/ too but they don't want it to be known. The key is not making content exclusively for /here/ since the market is too small.
>>26538607
Go genetically engineer cat girls Elon. We have plenty of vtubers already.
Plus, money != success. See Sony.
>>26541317
People who know how to stream makes a better impression on debut. People who don't takes a few months to get their groove going, but they often bring something new to the community. A mix of both is necessary.

Also with enough money, one can start off with 3D models. Way more expressive if done well. Kizuna Ai was always 3D. Miko exclusively uses her 3D model now and she's doing great. The hard part is making models that don't remind people of 90's video games.

>>26549552
Starting with 3D is actually a great idea in this market oversaturated with Live2D. He just needs to make sure to get his vtubers good tech and rigging, and of course get top quality models.

Anon, if you do end up making this company and opening auditions, please post about it on here so I don’t miss it. Sure, you’ll probably get a good few trolls in the replies, but so long as it doesn’t look like a black company, I’ll audition.

t. Small female indie versed in drawing, singing, graphic design and good zatsus, hoping for a corpo to help lift me out of 2view hell. (No, I’m not trans, and yes, I’m seiso)

>>26550242
ywnbaw

>>26550330
NijiEN brought in a lot of females

>>26550330
Alright then, anon. One day you’ll realise women do actually use this board, but today evidently isn’t it.

We just tend to lurk more because any mention of having two X chromosomes brings the typical onslaught of “show tits” “ok tranny” “shut up female”, or your response.

Anyway, if rich anon actually does go forth with it and I audition, I’ll reference my past 2 post numbers with a whistleblowing comment. Not obvious, probably something dumb like “ravioli is my favourite food”.

>>26550844
>he took the bait

>>26550242
Tits, right now

>>26513005
Agreed. We need more male virtuals!

>>26512848
do the opposite of what /vt/ says.

>>26539537
faggot don't make coding gay it's already gay enough do something else

>>26549504
You may not like them, but you can use their infrastructure to help build your own business. Better than starting from scratch for sure.

>>26514536
>one hour per day
>work ethic
It's not as complicated as you think
Salome's throat would be fucked if she streamed long hours every day

>>26538539
Praising tsunderia and cyberlive for being good businesses. Bashing kiwifarms pandering when everyone who signaled to them got a viewer boost like the tour guides.

>>26549504
You will have to network with all or most of them even if you dislike them.

I'll assume this isn't just baiting (you)s and i'm bored anyway
>>26512848
Its mainly researching others to avoid their mistakes. See those trainwrecks like tsunderia, cyberlive and many other SEA small corpos? Don't do the shits they did. The very first important thing is marketing because there are way too many supplies than demand for vtubers, your chuubas with hololive mamas might releases covers that puts azki and riotmusic girls to shame but it means nothing if nobody knows about the girls.
But even with doing everything right its a fucking gamble with odds heavily stacked against you because too many unexpected things can happen, picrel is a chuuba going full retard completely killed her company's effort building their good name and this can happen to you.

If i were you i rather just use the money to roll akasupa carpet for my oshi's birthday or something, much less headache that way.

>>26519691
Kfp...

>>26555797
>mucho texto + image for ants
screams certified dumbass

>>26555856
>post not even 1/4 size of my screen
>mucho texto
Bet you alt tab into something else when a chuuba talks longer than a minute while not playing the game

>>26512848
Make a vtuber company where every model is drawn in the style of Picasso

>>26548838
Phase and the other small corpos do have growth problems. The jump from 2view to 3view is doable but growing from there to 4view is exponential and almost none have done so except the leading talents of 1 or 2 agencies. Also this is a people business so you need at least 1 or 2 managers who can deal with sad girl emotions and it is a sad girl BUSINESS so you need a businessman you will listen to or you will fall apart.

>>26550844
Do you fulfill this criteria? >>26513005

>>26548703
You forgot about VOMS which has their talents make business contracts with Gyari in exchange for merchandizing, model and audio rights + has to stream once a week. It's more like vshojo where there is no management but their social media strategy has managed to keep them up after that clip made them big. Second gen so far has not been able to do so. There's also the mid sized japan corpos, 774 and the other one the 4th biggest that have almost no presence here but carve their niches below holo and niji that are worth looking into.

>>26556197
Dunno if Redjuice is willing to take any more commissions.

>>26512848
Depends what kind of company you want more centralized or more autonomous or maybe mix of both.
Do you want them play character yes/no /mixed ratio.
Seiso or unhinged or mix ? This affects sponsorships in the future as well.
Holos work because they try to adapt with more relaxed control but still there are rules
Nijikeks are unhinged this is their main appeal Vshota works because of various talents differences and they can collaborate with whatever.

Other agencies fall under radar but not invidual vtubers.

What would make your agency different and do you have any skills to back up your idea? Money without proper guidance is like throwing it to the trash and lastly.
Two advices take risks without them you and your company won't work.
Start small having many vtubers doesn't always means they are good quality

>>26556737
It doesn't really matter what he wants. He'll get what he can handle or goes up in flames. We've seem small corpos fail and live depending on their female managers. Female talents won't properly listen to male CEOs.

>>26512848
don't

Reminder; there is no major corpo EN GFE.
Yes, for all of this boards drumming that shit up, there is STILL nothing like Tamaki's idol agency for EN chuuba

If you are in the US, another key point. Neither "Virgins" nor "Sex Havers" are, in and of themselves, a protected class.

Furthermore, if you screen for autism and BPD, it only counts as discrimination if you use that to not hire them. You, of course, want to hire autistic menhera, so if anything it'd be a positive look. Youbdo NOT want to be known for it though. If possible, you want to screen people who think they're normal privately, and hire the somewhat unstable somewhat autistic ones without actually confirming the results. Likely with a waiver.

Finally, read up on idol business practices. These vtubers will be in the internet limelight. They will be unstable over it no matter what. Better they be unstable over a heavy workload that offers them no real social life than the opposite, because that will lead to malaise, which will lead to contempt for expectations, which will lead to contempt for fans, which will lead to adversarial bullshit nobody wants. Everybody will hate each other and nobody will be happy.
Whereas if you make them work their ass off and let the audience be their salvation during streams, their mental health can be turned into a bonding experience between them and their audience and this can then be used as a dial for you(meaning your underlings) to adjust to keep them as metastable and therefore as happy as possible.

Also, men will fuck up women no matter what. But just 1 real dude can fuck a girl up more than tens of thousands of ones on the other side of the screen. Keep the men in the chat box.
At the very worst, hire male help, but make sure they are gayer than cum soaked fruit cake that's been set on fire. If you luck out and find help like that, try to enforce a "straight" dress code at work. The idea is that safe eye candy will make them hoeny without risk, which again helps you be able to precisely turn that dial to ensure the welfare of your employees, audience, and pockets

>>26558131
>make them work their ass off
>audience is their salvation
>their mental health is a bonding experience
Yeah, people watch chuubas because they want to trauma bond with menheras that are being worked to an inch of their sanity and have meltdowns live as a result

>>26558131
>>26562367
Forgot to add
>hire male help
>turbo gay over 9k
Office becomes absolute bitchfest. Watch fags and faghags take sides and tear each other to shreds. Watch fags hook up with each other and ruin workplace mood

>>26512848
NO U

>>26550844
Good luck! I don't watch female streamers but I'll still be rooting for you!

>>26554277
How the fuck do you make coding gay what does that even mean? Also I've already paid about 1/4th of the tuition it's too late to give up now.

>>26556460
kekkkkkk dammit I still love his mecha art though

>>26548753
>>26548426
Who gives a fuck about subs?
Pippa is hitting 500-750 youtube ccv and a couple others are also at the 300 mark and spike up to 500 on bigger streams. They are growing nice and steadily.
Now you can tell me that Kawaii's nene with her 120k subs and 200 ccv is bigger, but that sounds pretty retarded to me.

>>26562367
Live meltdowns are kind of hot though. Also sometimes it can create a more loyal bond between the audience and streamer.
t. someone who's watched a meltdown live and felt closer to their oshi

>>26534719
>2 out of the big 3 are focused on women
>this somehow means that it isn't working
Tsunderia added a bunch of males and their company imploded. Probably not the fault of their 2.5 male vtubers, but doesn't seem to be the miracle cure either. Their numbers are terrible too.

>>26512848
Go for the Japanese market. You won't find any good English talents.

>>26512848
>>26564513
Also look for older woman (early 30s to early 40s)

>>26512848
JP corpos can offer more to their talents due to everyone being pretty close together and capable of travelling to the office or each other pretty easily. What timezone are you in?

>>26539561
>failed
They're all still active, just doing worse than the EN branch.

don't fuck the girls you hire for the love of god

Only one, woke = go broke.

why do you want to start a vtuber company?

>>26512848
Nobody will know you so you need to do something that will get people attention and go viral like Salome's gastroscopy.

>>26556197
Giuseppe Arcimboldo vtuber when?

>>26550330
you are in /cgl/ but with men, open your eyes

>>26562367
unironically yes, I have watched nothing but menheras lately. My mind just tends to dismiss any other kind of vtuber as a normalfag

>>26564499
Tsunderia imploded when Slug finally couldn't stand PPP and left. She was the only one with a bit of sense in Tsun management.

>>26564692
They're technically failed. Fish admitted he doesn't understand jp market and won't be hiring more to target that market. Current JP girls are still integral part of the company, though.

Serious answer, don't. Be the next gunrun instead. Talk to established Twitch indies (Shylily, Girl-dm, Bao etc) and form a VTuber streamer group instead.

Don't be a nobody, trying to make other nobodies relevant.

>>26514949
THIS. You can literally look at a thumbnail and know exactly what you are going to get. It's not just a character, but an extremely strong character archetype that everyone is familiar with. That's what turns heads of people just drive-by seeing your stream on their front page.

>>26512848
Do clips, please. I don't have time to watch streams.