/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>26436813
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>>26436813
Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

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>>26436813
CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Is fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?
>Development
What are your nation's current goals now? What are you trying to aim for in your development? Would said development make your people happy?
>Funeral Rites
How do your people observe the death of one of their own? What kind of ceremonies are held? How are their belongings handled?
>Music
What kind of musical instruments/music does your nation make/use?
>Name
Does your thread's nation have any naming conventions? What are people named, and why? Do names have meaning? Do people have surnames, and how are those derived?
>Politics
How does the balance of power look in your nation? who are the ruling/most powerful class? Who are they competing with?
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>Special
We are making a /vtl/ team! Here are the current suggestions:
https://rentry.org/team-vtwbg
Feel free to suggest and add to it!

Okay, the thread is too fast now anons, everyone stop posting.

>>26412076
The code didn't work for me, so I'll post here instead:

"Ah, so that is your objection." Quenti paused for a brief moment before continuing with his calm tone, as if the answer had been prepared and recited numerous times. "A common belief, regrettably. While morality is ultimately a matter of personal belief, if I may, I would still recommend ma'am Amanda to reconsider it."

"While we might have a... certain reputation among the people of the world, I can assure you that every piece of meat served on our plates come from someone willingly offering them. I wouldn't dare to bore you with details, but our establishment insists upon serving only the highest class of meat we can obtain. As such, every one of our sources of meat is treated well - perhaps even better than many commoners - before they're processed." Quenti glanced briefly to the windows leading to the outside world, as if gesturing towards it silently. "And in exchange, we make full use of what they offered us for our esteemed customers. Ultimately, it's no more immoral than, say, people benefitting from their ancestors' sacrifice. In fact, I wager our kitchens likely spilt less unwilling blood than many such cases."

Reposting for /risu/ attention!
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>>26435057
While we're talking about languages, there would probably be some kind of Holoimperial language from /hlgg/ that was used throughout the continent during the empire's hayday, but is now falling out of favor, similar to latin.

I've taken Risuner sex for granted and now I found myself nutless

>>26437947
Yeah I had forgotten about that too. Though even if /hlgg/ is a shadow of its former self, the Imperial language would most likely still be in use since unlike the Romans it is still an active player. It might not be the language of trade in some parts of the continent but it's most likely the language of diplomacy. Someone should write something for /hlgg/...

>>26428976
That could be arranged for a single ship of medium size. Most of the steelworks on /morig/ have the Black Fleet as sole customer though, so if you want to arm a whole fleet /risu/ would have to take us up on our offer to help them build a factory in risuland.

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>>26438575
For me it is against the law to have sex with native species.

>>26439734
>t. Pomerlane

WARanon x Pomerlane Doujin when

I still want Pomerlane anon to make a sex chapter

>>26427877
Other Sanallite here, just adding to the whole language bit.

We have extremely advanced AI in language department, so if a meeting with basically any species on Vitubia took place at Lamington, where the main AI can connect to our suits, it would take about 30 min of conversation before we could talk with you without much, if any, issue.

As the /uuu/ meeting is taking place outside of effective range of Cassandra(the AI), translations and decryption of your language would be a lot slower. We have a simpler version of Cass installed in our suits for moments like these, so eventually we would still be able to converse, it might just take multiple hours or even days, depending on the complexity of your language.

As for you, you would have a clear understanding of Hooman language already, right? Since most (or all? Are there Saplings that aren't transformed from other species? If not, you would basically all be former Hooman, right?) of you would be Hoomans before the forest took over, right? And we had plenty of contact with them, so communication in their language would be no problem, but I still insist that you make attempts to communicate in your own language. It might do little more than confuse us for a moment, but eventually we would want to get your language in our databanks anyway, so might as well start as soon as we can. And we can always fall back on Hoomanic?(I need to do my /who/ reps, do they have a name for their language?) for important things.

>>26427877
Btw, >>26298764 if you missed it, this is the NPC I wanna lend you for your horror stories.

>>26437386
Since it looks like /vtl/ suggestions are slowing down, should we start working on finalizing the roster?

>>26441703
Saplings are not former Hoomans, we're different peoples. There's human saplings and non-human saplings, but they're saplings.

>>26442972
>While the forest affects any human that spends sufficient time in it, without active worship it will never reach the levels of physical change displayed in the average sapling anatomy.

So there hasn't been a single Hooman in history that ventured into the forests of /uuu/ never to return?

>>26442631
Yeah, does anyone have further suggestions for tweaks of the players, or ideas for swaps? I think the current team is pretty good, nice spread of threads are present, and our most iconic memes are there, I think.

>>26443518
There probably is, but they're that, either hoomans that got lost and died or they got initiated into a sapling tribe. Point being, we are different peoples.

>>26442631
i have a general question, who are all the OC makers?

>>26441703
Cass is okay with quick translations on the spot. However languages still need to be studied in depth in order to create an accurately translated lexicon and database. When we have our diplomatic issues settled (implying things go well) then Saplings will be free to visit /nasa/. If Saplings cannot physically leave the forest then what we can do to speed up the translation process is bring equipment with us. Equipment is a computer server, a microphone, and a few cameras. Accurate translations need to read body language as much as the voice of the native speaker to determine the context of the language spoken.

When speaking with Hoomans about the bakery deal Sanalites had an excellent opportunity to study that sample of Hooman language, which streamlined AI's process in deciphering the language in depth. We're not close to native speaking translations yet. However translations are at an almost tour-guide level where contracts and treaties between Hoomans are no problem. While the language is mostly AI generated there's still some errors within the language that still need to be sorted out by human hands. That said Hooman translation is still rough because of the lock downs. But its a language we can speak confidently. Most of the time.

>>26444302
The hivemind of autists who have an unusual amount of knowledge in climatology, geology, plate tectonics, mineral deposition, planetary science, ocean currents and planet modeling.

>>26444631
yeah but who are they reps for? i always wanted to know (besides i think blender anon being a deadbeat)

>>26444823
I'm pretty sure drawanon is a /meat/head, and I think the first climateanon was a Kronie, and then his successor was a /meat/head.
Safe to assume the unknowns are all /meat/heads, /meat/heads are awesome.

>>26444524
1st negotiations presumably took place using the /rrat/ language or the holo continental language. so you'd probably speak the hooman language with a similar accent to those of /rrat/ (aussie)

>>26443788
>>26437386
A player for Mt. Cunnylympus (Cunnympus?) could be fun.
Also, looking through the proposal doc, it looks like my risuner chant idea wasn't added yet, so relinking: https://files.catbox.moe/1ai3p8.wav

>>26446434
What would a /uoh/ player look like? I mean, beyond being a loli.

Ok im finally fucking home and lets see what I need to discuss. For the nasfaqg bois we will settle with pinisi for now as we always have. Eventually we will want different types of boats but pinisi are the trademark boat of /risu/ and the only one they know how to use. Should the need arise then I will get different boat designs. The cannons will be necessary on just 1 ship. Risuners are sending a greeting expedition not a war party so they don't want to seem threatening. However it's always nice to have backup of course.

As for /morig/. They operate on Silvanus while /nasfaqg/ operate on Sabatangan so there won't be too much overlapping? IDK but yes /morig/ is our primary partner for lots of shit we just see /nasfaqg/ as a very fast and short term way to get stuff done.

Oh and to rose senpai of last thread. do whatever you want and don't feel obligated to do something. Take a break if you need to please and just keep having fun. Even if you have to take a day off and get a tit fuck from the hooter waitress I just want you to be happy

>>26446746
Old balding Japanese man with glasses who protects lolis. Like that one comic I forgot to save.

>>26447006
Thanks anon, added. Feels like there's a bit of thematic overlap with the /ggg/ representative.

>>26446746
Or we could just have a literal big-ass mountain for the model. Isn't /uoh/'s whole country on a moutain with a flat top and a big lake/fountain of youth in the center?

>>26447878
That's right, and that's probably more visually distinct.

>>26442246
ah dang, Im sorry anon, I totally forgot about this, thanks for the reminder; I'll read this tonight and see what I can do with it

>>26446903
>Risuners are sending a greeting expedition not a war party so they don't want to seem threatening.
To be fair, during that time period, ships that travelled in potentially dangerous waters don't usually differentiate between them much. It's pretty common for merchant ships (which often double as passenger ships for people who don't have their own private ships) to be armed even if they're not designed as warships. In fact, it was not uncommon for civilian ships to put fake cannons on them to make them more threatening to deter potential pirates (without spending the money and load for actual cannons).

>>26448652
Risuners are naive right now since /meat/ bros dont raid them anymore but fake cannons sound interesting.

>>26448932
/meat/heads will teach them the importance of armament...

>>26448932
Well, there would be pirates, schizos and raiders other than /meat/ in the Holosea, though /risu/ is well positioned to have other nation's fleets acting as a shield.

>>26442631
the only thing i can think of that does happen to come up every now and then would be a /rrat/monk but otherwise i think we got pretty much all the mayor things on the list

>>26449630
Yeah risuners have gotten a bit too comfortable letting kronies, deadbeats, and now meatheads protecting them.
>>26449241
Diana is gonna come back like "motherfuckers we need guns"

>>26446903
Sanalites by now should be aware of Risuner's plan to visit us. We're in talks with where the Risuner ship should arrive. The good news is that it is summer time. So there is always a little sunlight. Nights still get pretty cold though. And Risuners will still be traveling mostly on foot no matter where they land. At best what /nasa/ can do is decide upon a meeting spot and bring supplies. /nasa/ has electric space blankets and weatherproof space tents with heaters that can keep Risuners warm. We have plenty of rations that you can cook with just clean water. Though if Risuners need meat then we'll have to go hunting for it. We can provide water filters that you can pour swamp water in to purify it. Though we still recommend boiling the water before filtering it to kill bacteria and other microbes. We'll also have first-aid and trauma kits in case of harm or injury.

/nasa/ has been looking for an excuse to put together an expedition team to hike to the coast. If we're going to build a ship yard then we need to scout a road to the coast to deliver materials from the station to build it. So wherever Risuners decide to land or to take the hike through /uuu/, /nasa/ will be prepared to meet you there. Hopefully nothing goes wrong.

>>26450040
To be fair, /meat/heads both in /risu/ for training Risuner sailors and in /meat/ greeting the visitors in the shipyards will touch on that subject often, with some offering to train Risuners for combat as well. They're also open to teaching Risuners how to fight in their own way, especially if the chhubanite smoke bombs can be made in /risu/.

>>26450040
Gonna be fun watching that happens when Pomerlane decides he wants a piece of that Holo cake, what with /risu/ being the bridge between the two continents and all...

>>26451216
Ah, that might be the Franz Ferdinand element we've been waiting for.

>>26450864
Risuners fight like guerilla fighters. They are good with bows since they hunt stuff but don't have good close range combat skills. They of course are VERY fast runners and can climb up trees incredibly quickly. Speed is their main advantage.

You hear that, rep? We need to start getting ourselves on our feet, there is no way I am missing this war!

>>26451216
Do not underestimate the Anya-Petra bunkers.
ONE MILLION AND SOON ENOUGH ONE BILLION

Imagine Lamington gets repaired to 100% and reporposed as a troop carrier. We can probably carry close to 30k troops across the entire continent in a matter of hours. We could get the few 100k of Hooman troops to /risu/ in a matter of days. I'm chuckling just thinking about it...

>>26451216
With /risu/ being in such a (hypothetically) strategic location then why did no one build a road leading from north to south? And with trade going through /risu/ they should be moderately wealthy, developed, and have some decent knowledge of the world. My head canon is that /risu/'s forest regrows so fast and is so hard to navigate all attempts to develop it before failed. It only became viable with modern tools and the willing, proactive cooperation of the risuners, with them wanting to see the world and such after basically being isolated for so long.

>>26451770
Sorry, but that sounds like absolute logistics hell.

>>26451882
no towa rep and we had a mep rep who actually wanted this to happen. It was planned in the middle of the /inf/ road to include a secondary one that goes to /mep/

>>26451475
Guess who're also guerilla fighters?
Jokes aside, /meat/heads do make use of ranged weapon skills (although somewhat different from risuners), and it might actually be fairly helpful in terms of naval combat as well (at least when it comes to fighting against pirates). Still, melee combat can benefits from agility as well, even if it might not be /meat/heads' focus.
In hindsight, having /meat/ risuners really help in that regard, eh?

>>26452065
I'm sure you can make it work hehe

>>26452122
This was the reason I assumed you wanted risuners in the first place......

>>26452105
Did not know this but I'm talking about the historical perspective. Risu had been naked tribals for most of Vitubia's history. They might well become a logistical hub in the decades to come but for now, if Pomerlane did become the supreme ruler of the Niji continent and wants to push north /risu/ probably isn't on his priority list.

>>26452195

>>26452309
In a way, I guess? I originally made that to write stories about /meat/ interacting with /risu/, and it ends up helping /meat/ interact with /risu/, so that's that.

>>26452384
Whats great about /risu/ is that its super easy to defend if your a risuner but anyone else unfamiliar with the terrain is gonna be fucking misreable there. Combine the massive amount of trees with risuner adept climbing of said trees and being good archer shots. Kek

>>26452195
Nah too much effort. Logistics is gonna mostly be via naval vessels but if one were to invade /risu/ they would have to face against /meat/ and /morig/'s navy, /inf/ would set up a blockade near the western holo ocean as well. And for what? Squirrel girls and vain gems?

>>26452540
you just thought risuners were too fucking adorable so you made your own. Basically a 'fine I'll do it myself' moment.

>>26452703
>squirrel girls
Fucking worth
>Vain gems
You mean ALL DA GEMS but hoomans don't know that we can multiply gems by growing them underground

>>26452824
Yeah, basically that. Funny how that works out. I guess it would be interesting to see Sipak trains the Risuners the gladiator-way (but less bloody) for fighting

>>26452703
Alright, be that way, more war for us I guess

>>26452916
Gems aren't worth much to us and it would probably crash the market anyways if outsiders found out that /risu/ really has ALL the gems. Though for general balance's sake maybe make it so gem tree gems aren't very high quality so they aren't worth that much, like irl artificial gems?

>>26453115
1129 VTE:
/risu/ became /nasa/'s 'nam...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9eybY9qFfY

>>26453281

>>26452384
historical i would assume that the holo continent and niji continent have always looked down on each other and thus trade was never truly established so anything beyond /towa/ on the holo continent never truly had a good reasoning to establish a road down there. or for niji continent to establish one up

/ahoy/ would probably always had more of a calling for the sea and together with /nasfaqq/ ships just would be quicker to connect with the mainland. anya-petra would always had been a bit alienated from the mainland. /ehe~/ is pretty new. that would leave /bakatare/, /watamelon/ and /mep/ as the only countries interested in a road through /risu/ wich /mep/ tried but could not come to an agreement with /risu/

>>26453172
I intended for all those gems to eventually be BURNED AND DISINTEGRATED for magic use anyway. They aren't meant for money. Risuners had to recently discover, mainly through nasfaqg that apparantely pretty gems are valuable to other people.

>>26453878
/risu/ would certainly tank the gem market of multiple countries, but it's important to know the extent of the gem extraction and how common it is

>>26451484
We're cleaning and testing our reconstructed weapons. We have railguns online, but they need to be directly wired to the station to work. Railguns will be used exclusively as long-range weapons. We still need to develop a new engine for CR-USTs using chuubanite since making gas engines is no longer an option. The buggies can be used as combat transport vehicles, but they'll need to be fortified with armor to survive a musket or bullet. Defense against flamethrowers is fairly simple. Out range and out gun your enemy before they get close to you. Repairing machine guns is simple enough, but we still need factories to make the precise parts. Full auto rotating Gatling guns are out of the question but they would be overkill for this age. KN1F-Es are a solid CQC option, but F0R-Ks are essential for melee. F0R-Ks are long spears that have reach beyond a typical bayonet musket. Also the shaft of a F0R-K is lightweight steel. So the shaft can absorb the blow of a longsword. KN1F-Es are balanced enough that both the blade and the hilt can be swung. KN1F-Es are glaives that can be swung like Naginatas.

Every Sanalite is armed with a CR01-SS4NT pistol. Pistols have high capacity magazines that hold up to 30 shots. They are mostly light weight and very accurate. Their power is comparable to a Desert Eagle. B4-GUE-TEs are assault rifles that have single shot, semi-auto, and full-auto modes. BUNs are grenades with both timer and proximity detonation modes. They're deadly at 15 meters. Leathal at 5. BUNs can easily be thrown behind cover or in trenches. This is just the basic arsenal.

Sanalites do have some other military grade weapons that need testing. Shields, machine guns, laser guided rocket launchers, etc. Sanalites also have some boarding gear like grappling hooks with metal cables that can't be cut with conventional axes, Plasma cutting torches that can cut 50 centimeters into solid metal, flare guns that are both used for signals and setting fire to things, booster jetpacks that help launch us with a high jump, and a few other fun stuff.

>>26451770
Orbiter colonies are absolute shit at mobility. Their purpose is to serve as supply depos to the rest of the fleet that protect them. We're better off building actual space carriers. Even then we need to get to space first. At best we can build helicopters and airplanes on the ground for quick aerial transport.

>>26453281
/nasa/ has no intent on invading /risu/. I'm just making defense preparations in case there's a Holocontinent invasion.

>>26453172
If /nasa/ carves a peridot gemstone from a pallasite and puts it in a titanium broach then will /risu/ take very good care of the gift?

>>26453878
It's the implication of the mass production of gems. if /risu/'s gems are indistinguishable from natural ones it would absolutely crash the market. Yes there can be a certificate system but it would still send a big shock to the market. Imo it's better to have them be really flawed gems with some trees occasionally producing high-quality ones.

>>26453802
Yeah this and the difficult environment combined would hamper /risu/'s development for most of its history, it's a convincing explanation.

>>26453981
Maybe tomorrow ill explain it more but there should be info in the lore archive.
>>26454070
They would turn it into a gemcorn and grow more peridot kek

>>26454198I should also mention this that 1 gem turning into a tree that makes 4 of that 1 gem takes 2 years. So it gonna be like 100 years before were rolling in them. As for the quality of them thats actually a good question as I has just assumed they would be legitimate but I can see where people are coming from. Then again. We aren;t planning on selling them we plan on BURNING THEM FOR MAGIC

Ok im going to sleep. Tomorrow I can talk about the specifics of gem magic and how everything works (i just took the concept from terraria desu because its really fucking cool)

>>26454217
Well if you just wanted a non-treasure gem then we can give you the raw meteorite. But it'll be up to you on how to cut it open without shattering the gem.

>>26454070
A'ight no troop carrier then. How about we just get it back into orbit after installing some kinetic bombardment outputs? Let that overzealous half-fairy feel the real wrath of the gods! Also, enough war talk, I ran out of appropriate Sana pics to put with the posts

>>26454837
tiem 2 git sum moar war sanas

>>26455279
Or I could just get my shit together and stop talking about war. Not like anything is happening near us anytime soon.

>>26454070
Okay fair enough, if that does happen /who/ would likely send some troops to help out the Eastern Continent. But we most likely won't sen 100k. Maybe around 2-3 legions max.

>>26455638
Micro-gravity orbital engines. But we have to figure out a better name that's punny and possibly related to bread.

>>26455638
no war is good
step outside
take your helmet off
smell the grass
become one with nature

>>26455693
40-60 thousand soldiers is still way too much, they'd get a small expeditionary force and that's it, depending on the scale of the conflict it can be expected for those in the east to make up for it.

>>26455693
Sanalites in this situation would be at their best providing artillery support for defenses. A world war where Nijisanji declares the destruction of the entire Holocontinent is an existential threat to /nasa/. Anyway Sanalites would bring machine-guns, long guns, rocket-propelled grenades, and whatever other artillery we can find. Chuubanite is a fascinating material to make rockets out of. Who knows what other weapons we can make.

>>26455772
/nasa/ will do its best to protect our Sapling friends when there is a Nijisanji-Hololive world war.

>>26456138
>when there is
pls no

>>26455971
One reorganized expeditionary Legion (slightly expanded ~30k? and tweaked for the environment they would be expected to fight in) would do as a start, and depending on how things go we might send more. But with the sheer distance, yeah most we'll do would be unrestricting exports and start selling matériel.

>>26456138
Also should be mentioned right now, and I will stand by this, in an event of a world holo-niji war, and if the conflict expands enough for even us to be threatened, the ban on technology sharing will be lifted. Let the Hoomans and Robosans have their fill of space age tech, if it means our survival. This, however, would be a last ditch effort, and done only once the foreign legions are right on our doorsteps though.

>>26456279
Don't worry sapling bros, /rose/ would never harm you. It'd go against our very reason for existence.

>>26455772
Become one with nature? Are...are you coming on to me? Cuz i'm not interested.

>>26456138
Man, we need to hurry up the technological development, having all that sanallite tech chilling there somehow without affecting the rest of the world is really straining the internal consistency of the setting kek.

>>26456279
if its any consolation, once pomerlane decides to march towards the holocontinent via /risu/ it would also mean that /vrt/ would send support to some extent since it would obstruct the trade alliance we got with /meat/

>>26456581
It wouldn't, really. /meat/ and any point of that trade route are thousands of kilometers away from /risu/.
Feel free to jump in anyway, though.

>>26456371
So all someone would need to do is trick you into feeling threatened enough, hmm? Interesting.

>>26456581
Oh yea, forgot to ask while Lumi was streaming yesterday, but what's with the booba model? I only tune in rarely, first time I saw it.

>>26456352
Fucking Napoleon's invasion of Egypt was around 40K, due to distances and logistics we'd send like 5 thousand at most. Exports and material to allied nations in the east would be our biggest contribution. The navy would speed up it's expansion too.
>>26456371
Oh now this is interesting.

>>26456647
If it's you who does it, we will just blow up the station, contaminate your entire country in nuclear fallout.

>>26456737
Actually, the /nasa/ station uses fusion reactors, so the fallout would be very limited.

>>26456371
In a Holo-Niji world war /pagi/ and /moon/ will join us. And they are not bound by the Grand Directive like we are.

>>26456279
I hope there isn't a war. But if there is know Hoomans and Sanalites will fight until the bitter end.

>>26456420
I want to visit /rose/ someday. I just hope a world war doesn't break out before then. I have lots of cookie recipes to make for Rosebutas.

>>26456531
Well many of humanity's inventions and technologies develop faster during times of war. This is unfortunately a sad truth.

>>26456627
yes it would, we are trading via the road in /risu/

/meat is transporting their goods to their side of /risu/ and we bring our stuff to our side, /risu/ itself gets the right to purchase stuff too if they see things that interest them.
/inf/ would most likely also get involved since they build the road and we make stops at their island too as we travel from and to /risu/.

>>26456737
So just nudge international politics a bit to encourage more conflict, got it!

Why is /nasa/ always warposting at night, kek.

>>26456659
it is the body of one of the failed matrons

lumi has a total of 19 bodies + the artificial soul of lumi #19

>>26456920
You go for it, Hooman! Hell, by the time you manage that, we might recover enough that we won't need to share shit, just chill in our cold north with all the tech you could imagine, untouchable. Ahh, the good times. I was mainly reffering to the Pomu conquest, if that somehow doesn't get stopped before coming to us.

>>26457042
Damn, nice

>>26456875
Oh, got it. Because of how efficient ships are at transporting cargo, it would definitely be faster and cheaper to just send it over in a single boat trip, but it's definitely worth having that stop in /risu/ to get involved with them, everything seems to revolve around those squirrels.

>>26456848
The self-destruction mechanism is nuclear fission. We reverse the fusion core to split atoms, causing a chain reaction collapsing the core and taking out the entire station and everything around it. Self-destruct is only used when the station is lost and the enemy fleet is surrounding us.

>>26456920
I think Hoomans would get more satisfaction out of developing their own technologies alongside us than have us give our tech to them. Our tech is separated by a full and a quarter millennium. There's a lot of fundamentals of the technology that needs to be understood. To be honest /nasa/ is rediscovering many lost technologies from your current time period. We know how to make factories but we've forgotten how to build factories with hand tools for example. And the assembly line will only work if you have all of the people and machines synchronized in perfect order. So we're rediscovering the logistics of the assembly line without computers and artificial intelligence. Kronies have taught us that their clockwork is custom made by individual clockwork makers with no standards for parts. A part made by hand from one person will always be slightly different every time due to human error.

>>26457511
>We reverse the fusion core to split atoms, causing a chain reaction collapsing the core
Please, for the sake of my autism, just have a big nuclear bomb in there instead of this... Improvised sentence.

>>26457171
this might be an easily forgettable fact but onobots too are aliens from outer space that crashlanded on this planet

>>26457223
while over most of history /risu/ has been pretty isolated, due to /inf/ building a massive road there to connect the gulf with the western ocean did make them a good location for trade

>>26457511
>We reverse the fusion core to split atoms
what the fuck?
Anyways, satisfaction of developing one's own things would not replace the satisfaction of obtaining technological understanding from ages beyond. But it is also my fellow hooman being rather silly with irrealistic diplomatic goals for the sake of being cheeky, you see. We're playing the long game here.

>>26457659
If the post isn't archived then it is not canon. I'm still kinda making this shit up as I go. Anyway the core itself can split atoms, which creates a nuclear bomb.

>>26457901
So, just for the record, you don't need to change anything, doing your trade through /risu/ it's fine, it's great actually, because it lets /vrt/ be active in the region of the world with a lot of active generals, makes interactions easier, and all that good stuff.
However, I feel a irrepressible need to explain that because a ship moves through water with a low coefficient of friction and is propelled by free energy, wind, and can be structurally supported by hydrostatic pressure, removing the requirement for complex suspensions and wheels, it is more efficient and faster to transport large amounts of cargo with ships by orders of magnitude. Even just a short stint having to move all that cargo with carts and carriages would increase the cost tremendously. The only way to compete would be if the /inf/ trains had happened.
Okay, rant done, feel free to ignore. I just had to get this out.

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I WAS THIS CLOSE TO FINISHING THE FINAL FUCKING ENTRY FOR /RISU/ AND MY GOD DAMN PC CRASHED ON THE LAST FUCKING PARAGRAPH I'M GOING TO BREAK SOMETHING SON OF A BITCH I'M SO ANGRY

>>26457939
>But it is also my fellow hooman being rather silly with irrealistic diplomatic goals for the sake of being cheeky, you see.
Oh don't worry, we know. Your kink is wanking in the corner while watching other people get it on anyways.

>>26458698
Anon... Why haven't you started using something that autosaves like everyone else yet...

>>26458761
Perhaps...

>>26458698
Also, that's my hand in the pic (I'm giving her a neck massage after she fell down the stairs.)

>>26458761
I'll watch as you starve.

>>26457939
The problem with a primitive society obtaining space-age technology is their lack of fully understanding the technology. The Romans for example are rumored to have concrete that works underwater. While we did eventually pick up the concrete recipe from the Romans it took us many years to figure out how it works exactly. And even to this day we still can't make concrete work underwater the way the Romans did it. So what if Hoomans snatched themselves a Tesla coil at this age now. You guys wouldn't now how it works, why it works, or understand the science and math used to invent the coil and its parts. Even then Hoomans would probably take shortcuts with reverse engineering the coil, which misses half of the research, breakthroughs, and failures Tesla himself went through inventing the coil. Its the difference between doing your own homework and copying someone else.

>>26458698
Oh shit! I've had that happen before. And then my laptop burned out with a fried motherboard.

>>26459000
Open Office has auto-save I think. You can recover documents in case of crashes. It's made by Oracle, the people who made Java, so its free.

>>26458698
What do you use for your writing anyways? Notepad ++? If so it does have a auto-save iirc.

>>26459000
>>26459332
I use regular old Notepad. I know it's a piece of shit, but it's my piece of shit. But maybe I should just use google docs or Word like a normal person.

>>26459290
NTA, but not fully understanding the technology doesn't prevent you from using it. We've been using quantum phenomenon in electronics for decades without knowing how they work at all, and we've been modeling turbulent and chaotic flows in fluids simulations without having a good underlying theory of those things. It's better to have the underlying understanding, but not a must. This is the difference between engineering and science.

>>26459290
Yeah sure too primitive, I don't really care mate. You're not exactly going to convince or dissuade anyone like that.

/ggg/ representative here, can we ally with the amelia watson thread and wage war on every other Myth split? It's been proven that literally only their oshi actually cares about ours, and we want to make it everyone's problem.

>>26459698
Sure, we'll have to wait until an /ameg/ representative comes by to make that happen though.
are you the same pajeet as yesterday

>>26459533
I'm a fan of ol' Notepad for some things, but for anything longer than a few paragraph the peace of mind of an autosaving editor is worth it imo.

>>26459698
Which rep though? The tourist or the /biz/spic? For war you'd need a good Casus Belli in-universe and for the rep of the split you want to declare war on to be present as well.

>>26460010
please be the tourist...

>>26460010
Please for the love of everything, be the tourist...he was a spec. biology chad

>>26459828
no, I don't care about the whole ocean thing. I just want it to be clear that we fucking hate all other EN fandoms besides teamates because only they have an oshi that actually cares about ours, ina kiara and mori would literally be better off dead

>>26459659
>>26459643
https://youtu.be/QxYmm5yCJBg

>>26460160
Even your oshi's lost twin sister?

>>26460160
Welp, it's not the same pajeet, but still is a pajeet.

>>26460160
Ah, we'll also need a /wah/ rep if you want to declare war on them.

>>26460308
mumei is a piece of grifter trash just like the rest of council, it's just that none of them are as bad as sana so they all get a "pass"

>>26460400
I have a theory. Sharks are marine apex predators, meaning high quantities of heavy metals accumulate in them. I think long term chronical lead intoxication could explain the erratic behavior of /ggg/.

>>26460656
Whelp, there goes the idea of opening up a trade port in /ggg/. Which means /nasa/ is locked out of west Hololive without the northern trade route.

Well pajeets gonna pajeet I guess. I'd make it more a cold war/frozen relationship though. Active, generation-spanning war just because you don't like other generals is a bit unconvincing. Also because /ggg/ would most likely be crushed/completely cut off by all other generals that got tired of their shit.

>>26460850
You can use a port in pekora, and then sail around the /ggg/ peninsula. Just don't fall in the shark-infested waters.

>>26460850
Good.
We don't want to do business with anyone besides teamates, and you can add to our lore that we're going to be genociding every "chumbud" that doesn't have Ame's membership.

>>26460850
/nasa/ rep It can't be this fucking hard to ignore a fucking shitposter and take their word as law for their general
>>26460308
You too should have seen it coming damnit.

>>26460966
/ggg/ has numbers. They can swarm a ship and board it. Or they can cut holes in the ship from below. And if /ggg/ knows gunpowder they can create sea bombs that blows holes in ships. And shooting chumcunts in the sea is like shooting fish in a sea. Very difficult and hard to catch. Plus if your guns are front-loaded then the ball and powder could fall out at that low angle.

Personally I'd just toss a live toaster in the water but that's just me.

>>26458698
take it out on the risuner (sexually)

>>26461177
https://youtu.be/IQZZU7hbLy4

>>26461678
>what is hull cladding
>what is depth charges
>what is dumping oil in the sea and setting it on fire so the chumbuds can't surface
>what is dropping rocks on the chumbuds while they try to climb the smooth hull of your ship
They'll need at least some tech to fight with current naval nations.

If all the land locked nations got together and pissed into the ocean at the same time how much damage could they do to /ggg/

why can't we get a normal person from /ggg/

>>26462362
blast fishing is fucking based

>>26462581
you're a teamate, though.
you're completely fine in our book, we only want genocide of the people that don't care for your oshi.

>>26462581
There was the tourist chumbud yesterday, after the pajeet fucked off, that seemed interested in writing. Hope we see him again, he seemed reasonable, wanted to first establish how the chumbuds looked like.

>>26462581
I think >>26460734 is onto something. That's why the murder rate went up in the 60s, after all.

>>26462581
Don't think this is that tourist from the last thread. From now on I guess we should try to ignore any cumbuds unless they post actual, REASONABLE lore/story.

>>26463031
Yea, it's not the same person, that guy was capable of bouncing the ideas around, and was interested in the project. >>26389256

And yep, unless the touristbud returns, I ain't giving a (you) to a chumbud anymore.

>>26463031
I mean that logic should probably apply to all posters regardless of which threat they claim to be from
I'm not even that opposed to the idea of aquatic/amphibious people claiming a good chunk of the ocean as long as they don't block off the thing

>>26462799
Amelia Watson got me into Hololive. Even though Sana is my oushi now I still watch Ame from time to time. This is why we can't have nice things. I'll make sure to keep a few hundred bombs handy.

>>26463707
Rep, please! Just ignore the pajeet, (you)'s is all he wants!

>>26463650
We don't get many shitposters in this thread which is why I let my guard down a little. Most tourists just ask a couple of questions then fuck off.

>>26463833
Better get started on making insulated ships for the northern trade route then.

>>26463650
I actually wanted to bounce the idea of /ggg/ chuubanite making it possible for underwater flora to grow above ground or something, creating a unique coral reef biome all over /ggg/, similar to Coral Highlands from MHW, so they would have some surface area, and then a big chunk of what is currently /ggg/ on the map would actually be underwater, where more aquatic tribes would live, so the actual border of /ggg/ would be an everchanging thing as the coral reefs grow and collapse.

And as for the claiming the oceans thing, they themselves couldn't survive for long outside their own coral reefs, as open oceans aren't exactly known for large stores of food, so good luck to them if they want to keep watch over everything.

>>26463931
Nah, we are still taking the Holosea route. This is just a shitposter, don't take anything he says seriously.

Whelp. I can't continue my story with the Sapling posts his next part. Guess I have to figure out lore in the meantime. I could write about alternate future of Earth. Or if there's another interesting topic I can try that.

>>26464679
corals are actually fauna who basically build their own shells with the same stuff as limestone
The issue of living in deep sea is that those places are basically desolate desert with virtually no oxygen and/or food, so a hypothetical aquatic society in open sea will have to stick close to the surface, perhaps with some kind of gigantic floating plants of sorts. It actually sounds kind of cool when you think about it, it's kind of an organic, upside-down city made of kelp and seaweed, maybe with some artificial bubble-like structures once they figure out how to build stuff

The final entry for meeting squirrels! It might be a little lackluster because of some frustration, but hopefully it's at least serviceable. I think the Risuners will be happy with it, and one Risuner in particular might be a little happier than the rest heh.
https://rentry.org/pk2hf#the-last-hunt

Even if (if!) /ggg/ actually wanted to stop ships coming to /nasa/ to the East Holosea, you could just give a wide berth to the peninsula to avoid them.

>>26465334
Exactly, it's a really interesting country to write for, and I hope touristbud comes back so we can explore it together!

>>26465334
Alternatively settlements can be made closer to the shores where there's kelp forests and coral reefs. Most food is in the shallow waters. Unless you're aiming for tuna you don't really want to fish too far from the shore.

>>26465686
I mean they're not mutually exclusive, they can even be different tribes who chose their respective lifestyle and thus make up a different part of the economy - I imagine having floating islands of plants can be pretty useful for, say, long shipping lanes where fresh food is premium

>>26465686
Yea, that's why I wanted to explore the idea of /ggg/ just being a giant coral archipelago.

>>26465350
Woa, I'm impressed the risuners managed to get an audience with the Overseers.
I'm curious, do Rosebutas use a specific technology to make their tunnels? Or they're just really patient about smoothing the walls?

>>26466316
It's the first official meeting between Tunnelhogs and another species in a long time, it's deserving of an audience with the Overseers.
As for the tunnels, Rosebutas have access to large machines that bore main tunnels for them, although they have to power it themselves. As it bores through the earth, the Rosebutas put together large stone plates that hold the circular caverns in place. I think I wrote everything down somewhere, but I'm not sure if I ever anchored it or anything.

>>26465923
Floating islands might not be the proper name for them. Maybe floating gardens or floating cottages. They have to have some dense material to pull them down low enough under water for sea weed to grow. Inside the island is a house where a chumbud can sit, relax, and sleep. And if there's a chuubanite power source it can keep the chumbud warm. That's my idea.

>>26466056
We'll have to wait for chumbud to return. In the mean time we can go blast fishing for chumcunt.

I'm going to head out for the night. If any Risuners wake up before me, please feel free to let me know what you think so I can read it when I wake up.

>>26467280
Oi, as Cunt Sanallite, I take offense to that remark. I will not share the proud moniker of "cunt" with this lowly pajeet.

>>26468019
CUNT LOVE

>>26466870
Oh, boring machines? That's some pretty swanky machinery and metalworking, cool.

>>26467280
You will not use blast fishing to fish out anything. Blast fishing is indiscriminate destruction. It is illegal for a reason. Blast fishers will be stripped of their citizenship, which means no vote and no firearms. Blast fishers will be sentenced to 25 years of hard labor. It takes a century for environments to heal. A quarter century is nothing compared to the ecosystem damage.

>>26468019
Will "chumshitter" do?

>>26469194
I vote for a simple "pajeet". Nice, simple and gets the message across.

>>26467280
Well, the concept's about the same, so I guess it depends on the scale more than anything. Peronsally, I imagine it being more similar to groves of free-floating sea plants like sea hyacinth (although there are many other kinds of similar plants). They don't really need anything extra to weight them down (in fact, they might have a pretty strict load limit), although it being fruit-bearing might be handy for food for the residing chumbuds. They can also serve as hotspots of marine animal activities due to the shelter and food they provide. As for living space, I imagine the chumbuds either live in the plants or (if they have sufficient technology) in man-made habitats intertwined with the plants. As for source of heat, I guess it's probably only necessary in colder waters, and /ggg/'s probably in the tropics.

>>26469318
How much pollution do Pajeets cause in the ocean just from pooing?

>>26469763
Another idea is that sea gardens could be empty inside with breathable air. Which air is necessary to do metalurgy or cooking. The steam/smoke can be vented outside the garden. As for the air its always circulating somehow. But we're getting to near retarded magic territory again.

>>26469824
None, really. All the fishes in the world poop all the time and it's fine.

>>26470460
I mean if the mat forming on the surface is thick enough, they can just do those things on top of it, which will solve the ventilation problem quite easily

>>26471075
So are the islands buildings or just porrus rocks?

>>26471597
I imagine it could be either or both: ancient chumbuds probably just lived in the plants, but eventually they developed enough masonry to fashion pumice into stone buildings to build into the plants without pulling it down to the abyss. Nowadays, they probably have developed different kinds of low-density material for better comfort or specific use. Their options will expand significantly once they figure out how to make airtight air pockets

An urgent message has been dispatched from /hlgg/ to the representative nations of the old pantheon, requesting an immediate summons to Unity Island. There's something stirring in the Heavenly Realm.

>>26474745
unity is dead after tonight's kino
amesame is high, high above all the other EN shitters now

/ggg/ be like

i was banned for a few days for posting the gomi thigh roach. someone posted that a skull cup was the most metal thing in the thread. meanwhile this is official merch
https://mznakr.booth.pm/items/2671898
why is it that /meat/ has been delegated to such a low? what happened to the time when we would writte about marine getting gutted at an altar, or kiara preparing herself to be eaten by a fan, or haachama ruining haato's life after she starts taking her meds? why is all /meat/ smut implied to be vanilla and with risuners, which isn't actually that bad, or surprising, but still when we should at least be replicating the real life acts of our chuubas, if not their significantly more extreme art, as well.
please /meat/ writers, make something like that again. don't be afraid to get extreme.

>>26476008
Do pajeets really?

>>26476174
Yes they unironically jerk off to this shit, it's India's version of 'lebensraum'. The logic behind it is that anything partly 'influenced' by ancient Hindu and south asian culture and trade networks is considered clay

>>26476279
Some goes as far as to include the Indian ocean trade

>>26476310
Or even the romani migration

>>26476310
>>26476348
Kek. Does any of them include the far east as well?

>/ggg/ subcontinent shares the same shape as pajeet Atlantis
>both are located on the same latitude
>both have the same climate
>both subcontinent have the same size
>pajeets want to claim the entire world
>chumbuds want to claim the entire ocean
It wont stop holy shit!

>>26476564
I can imagine a chumbud nationalist going
"Gura = biggest vtuber
biggest vtuber = world power
/ggg/ = Gura
/ggg/ = world power
/ggg/ is actual controller of world!!"

>>26476008
>>26476279
>>26476310
>>26476348
>pajeet schizo nationalism
anon what the fuck is this rabbithole you just opened up?!

>>26451882
/risu/'s horrible economic system prevents them from stacking wealth essentially, and as far as I know, /risu/ have only lately been contected by the outside world, we are essnetially seeing the entire world discover the place for the first time here

>>26453172
afaik, most aritifical gems are very good quality, the reason they arent valued so much is literally just gem mine company shenanigans

>>26452916
>squirrel girls
>fucking worth it
You realy dont have to go invading to get squirrel pussy, you can pretty much just ask them to come over

>>26477897
>>26452916
Also, are they really that worth it?

>>26478165
Yes as a tasty snack

>>26446903
Does risu have any naming conventions for their ships, or shall I name the ships something appropriate (nuts, gems, and flora come to mind first)? I was thinking of writing a short paragraph or two long "report" for each of the ships being completed.

bump

>>26477614
>Horrible economic system
Yup. Resetting your bank accounts to literally zero every year will do that to you. But at least it keeps people in check to not have corpo overlords.
ROSE SENPAI ILL READ IT RIGHT AFTER BREAKFAST
>>26477897
We're just visiting kek.
>>26478627
Oh another thing I didn't think of. I don't have shit.

>>26437853
i am a massive idiot and did not see this yesterday... sorry for wasting all the time

as for the code, it is both words without space written as one, singular

>>26480170
Not only the reset, but also the fact that your money is perishable. Even if you didnt have the rest system your nut stacks would eventually all spoil away.

Am I correct in thinking that non-nut based property like clothing, tools, homes etc are not reset?

>>26480285
Correct. Only nuts are given to Risu.

>>26480240
Oh, that one. I thought you meant the one that's uncountable. Wrote my part

>>26481643
one of the downsites of trying to be vague i guess.

wrote my part

>>26482295
ditto
man, it's bringing back the memories of collaborating in forums back in the days

Gentlemen and sexy bitches. I am back. And oh boy di I have things to say. First of all to ROSE SENPAI HOLY SHIT THAT WAS AMAZING! It was pretty much all that I expected in the conclusion and I can't wait now to reveal what I have planned.

Second. 4 days until Risuners have extremely passionate SEX WITH SAPLINGS! The countdown continues.

As to the comments about the Risuner economic system. Yes it is VERY flawed. But I can see some points being made. I believe certain risuners will begin to pick up on the idea of what is essentially risuner tax evasion. Spend all your money on random shit or exchange it then when the exchange is over exchange it all back. Now this might not be big because the prize of being the one from each settlement of giving the most nuts to Risu is the honor of nutting in her mouth.

As for gem quality I did originally have all the gems produced to be as authentic as you can get. But if people see a problem with this collectively then maybe I can dance around this. But like an anon said before, Risuners only see gems as 1. PRETTY 2. The thing that the witches want for LOTS OF NUTS 3. Magic catalyst which the gem is completely destroyed.

Want to make this clear, Pomerlane will only ever go after the Holos if provoked. His interest is primarily restoring his dynasty, first to the throne of Pomerania and then to all of NijiEN. You must realize that not every conquerer nor really any of them desired world conquest but had a goal of establishing their own empire. Constant war will prevent any Empire from being sustained.

>>26437386
Prompts suggestion:
>Superstition
What sort of superstitions do your nation's people have, as in, are there things that the people believe in or things they think they know to be real that are not real on a meta level? What are omens of good or bad fortune? What mythical monsters lurk in the forests, or in the depths of the sea? Do some foods or materials have to be prepared in a certain way before they are seen as fit to use?

>>26483861
oh boy this can be an entire thing for me as risuners are bred into thinking pic related

Oh also forgot to mention cannons. The indonesians had a very beautiful cannon they called Lantaka. caliber 4.5 cm, length 165 cm. Is this comparable with cannons of the time or too small/too big?

>>26483464
it certainly is a fun experience for me, i also feel it much easier to write when i have something to anticipate

>>26437386
>Politics
>How does the balance of power look in your nation? who are the ruling/most powerful class? Who are they competing with?
Nasfaqg: The Dev Council and the wealthy hold power. The ruling class are the plutocrats who are the CEOs of large corporations or congolmerates, or the house heads of wealthy merchant families. They compete with every other corporation and plutocrat they share a market with. If the two are part of the same conglomerate or megacorporation, this competition remains mostly bloodless. I'm itching to get to write some corporate wars at some point with rival CEOs trying to assassinate each other or battles between hired mercenaries, its gonna be fun

>>26484708
So America basically?

>>26484790
its a bit more complex than that with religion, honor, and superstition mixing in

POMERLANE CHAPTER V: THE REPUBLIC RESPONDS
https://rentry.org/azueh
>>26437231

>>26484962
Holy fuck you write fast

>>26485091
the power of pomudachis is real

>>26485287
*Autism.

>>26484561
/Risu/ is going to learn how to make canons with the deadbeat right? If so your cannons would look more similar to a European one than a Southeast Asian one. Though the decoration would probably be different. Also the cannon used should be subordinate to your ship's design and doctrine. From a quick skim of Wikipedia lantakas are a common arm found aboard most ships in Malesia at that time. If your war ship's construction is more similar to deadbeats, then it will most likely rely on broadsides from bigger ships, but if it's the /meat/heads, then swivel guns and chasers on smaller ships. It depends on your anticipated type of enemy or target.

>>26485708
Well pinisi are actually 19th century indonesian ships. I only went with it because HoloID built one in minecraft. Ill be heading to work now but I can touch up on this later.

>>26484962
VERY disappointed Aquilius Corvus didn't repeatedly say "Pomerlane delenda est" during the speech. Otherwise, very nice read. Keep it up, Pomerlane anon.

I look away for about a day and we're on the brink of an intercontinental war? Cool. Shame that, as the other hoomans said, it'd be difficult to participate that much due to being on the other side of the continent.
It's mostly just going to be supplies and perhaps some engineers to help with construction of defenses and what not. However, provided nothing bad happens during the diplomatic mission from /risu/, perhaps there would be some deadbeats who would be willing to help train some hoomans in marine warfare so we could send a few ships?

>>26487134
Well, in theory we're getting most of our outside training from Hoshiyomia, but they aren't here, such training would mostly be about particularities of the gulf to ease transport duties

>>26487134
Kind of a false alarm, Pomerlane anon confirmed that Pomerlane only wants to reclaim his throne of both his own dynasty and NijiEN and won't have any intention of expanding north. But it's a fun what-if scenario nevertheless. I mean a world war might happen eventually. Just not now.

>>26484619
It makes me all giggly seeing the meta I proposed being recieved this well :D

>>26487474
the fact i got to listen to my oshi thanks to lumi rescheduling her stream instead of leaving us in a drought of 44hours without her while writing a nice chat with the /meat/head helped a lot in motivation and enjoyment too

CHAPTER VI: Battle of Pelusium
https://rentry.org/szomh
>>26437231

Can't say Florus was an idiot commander, he just got out played by a genius. Florus actually sounded smart if I am honest. Shame about his son.

>>26487796
NGL but the idea of encircling 40.000 people with only 20.000 and with basicly no loses at all somehow irks me since it does not seem too plausible

>>26488252
Based on the unit movement chart and art they attached it's clearly referencing the battle of Cannae. Pomerlane anon probably based the figures roughly on Polybius's account on Cannae.

>>26488252
>>26488497
It is inspired by Cannae and also Leuctra. Hannibal at Cannae was able to pull off the same thing against 80,000 with only 50,000. The problem was for the Republic was that they had a lack of control over their inexperience troops. Keep in mind many had not seen battle before and they would be easier to exhaust than the veterans that Pomerlane has. (He placed his veterans in the center and right, while his own greenhorns were in the left.)

>>26488497
>>26488667
i get that but i feel the fact that the percentage of warriors differing more while the casualtys are even less and the fact that pomerlane straight up murdered everyone while hannibal did take prisoners is a big difference

pomerlane also has lots of mercenarys who fight for money not for loyalty to the land and i doubt they would want to go the extra mile and risk dying in a won battle while the encircled army sees no mercy and thus has nothing to loose but put it all in fighting for their life

its just me being nitpicky, not like it matters or changes the overall flow of the story just because of numbers.

Chapter VII: Pelusium's Aftermath
https://rentry.org/8qhxi
>>26437231

>>26489220
Personally, I do find the numbers a little exaggerated but I guess Pomerlane anon is going for a more classical style of history writing and with a sort of mythical element to Pomerlane

>>26489220
Read about Cannae, the men left were unable to even move. This is also an army half its size and unlike the Roman Army at Cannae, was made up of recruits.
Cannae:
>Polybius wrote: "as their outer ranks were continually cut down, and the survivors forced to pull back and huddle together, they were finally all killed where they stood."
>Polybius writes that of the Roman and allied infantry, 70,000 were killed, 10,000 captured, and "perhaps" 3,000 survived.
Keep also in mind that as I have written, not every thing is factually 100% correct. Battle casualties in the ancient war, and even today are over estimated and blown out of propotion. Who is to say that Pomerlane had more men killed that is stated or the Republic lost less than state. I mean, look at Gaugamela. Diodorus Siculus wrote that Alexander only lost 400 men to 90,000 Persians.

In reality, the losses were likely 25-30,000 killed vs. 5,000. That's reasonable. Most battlefield losses occur when an army breaks anyway.

>>26489409
> classical style of history writing and with a sort of mythical element to Pomerlane
That's it, you've got it.

>>26489546
yeah yeah is fine, was just nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking, nothing more.

also this is a world where the blessings of a goddess are a very real thing so who knows how powered up Pomerlane truly is

>"Surrender the city at once, all will be spared and pardoned and allowed to live freely under my rule. Should you chose to resist, I will show no mercy to anyone in this city. Your future walls and towers will be made up from the skulls and bones of the people of this city and the streets will be paved with their blood. Every building will be raised to the ground and I will scatter the ruins of this beautiful city across the globe. Mark my words and remember this should you resist."
Holy shit that is epic.

>>26489816
No worries! As for blessings of the Goddess, I do plan to have some illiad shit at some point.

>>26489546
Pomerlane anon I do enjoy your stuff but please also remember the relative technology and developmental level of the world. Historians of Vitubia would probably have access to quite a lot of primary sources and accounts of the battle, unlike their ancient counterparts. I'm reading it as more of a legend or saga than a full, factual account of his conquest but for the sake of other anon's autism may be either push it back a couple of centuries to justify the more archaic style of combat and history telling? Do take in mind it's not a criticism, just a suggestion.

>>26489923
Isn't this set around 1750 IRL? that's what I was told.

>>26484561
>>26485708
Lantaka is a pretty small gun in terms of naval guns, with some being almost man-portable. As a result, they most probably won't be sinking any ships soon in most reasonable scenario - they're primarily anti-personnel weapons against boarders and other soft targets without protection from hardened hulls. For anti-ship guns, you would probably need some of the larger lela cannons for that (even then they're fairly light), and seems to be usually placed in fortified aft and bow instead of broadsides (which makes sense given their generally smaller and often piratical use).
Combined with Risuners' talent and /risu/'s still-developing industrial base, I would say that /meat/head naval warfare style is probably more suitable than /morig/'s, but then again, I'm from /meat/ so you might want to take it with a grain of salt.

I'm not sure that the Nijisanji continent has the same level of primary source materials that Holo does. And I feel like I am reading something commission by Pomerlane to be honest.

>>26489991
OHH i guess thats where the disconnect inf eelign comes from

Curious to see how Pomerlane deals with a city on an island without a navy of his own.

>>26489991
Yes, so depending on history, geography, and all that kind of stuff, a lot of armies would have access to firearms or are completely equipped with them. Feeshland is a merchantile nation that should have a lot of contact with /nasfaqq/ who iirc should have "modern" (for 1120 VTE) firearms. Makes sense for the republic to have them as well.

Also want to say this, there is a bit of isolationism on the Niji continent and as the story progress, it will open up more (like you will see more muskets and cannons on the battlefield, Pomerlane had none at this point.)

>>26490175
Problem for Feeshland is that they put all of their money into their navy and haven't fought a real war in 100 years. Even worse, they use money that they could use for a good army on paying tribute to the Dragoons!

>>26489991
to explain, the overall average TECH LEVEL is around 1750 IRL form our world but the Vitubium calendre is unique and we are in the current year of 1120 so when you base you story around 1100 you are basicly just 20 years into the past

>>26490072
Maybe it is...

>>26490298
I'll put it this way, Feeshland is a backwards state overall that doesn't trust Firearms in their army because of past experiences and politics. (Patricians really don't want firearms in the hands of citizens because that could lead to overthrowal.) Other states like Eliria, Pomerania and Selenium use firearms in their armies promeniently. Pomerlane himself will soon be using them. It's just Feeshland being a corrupt, plutocratic, shithole that has caused this.

>>26490255
Hmm we don't have a concrete timeline of the technologyies of Vitubia so it's hard to model. Since in-universe Niji probably has limited contact with holo continent their style of warfare might differ a lot. Chuubanite can change that equation too. But even with a century of relative peace, their army should still adapt somewhat to what their neighbors are doing. What do you intend the Dragoon's army to be like? They are the strongest army in NijiEn (IIRC) so a lot of NIji's army would be modeled after them (or influenced by them) too.

>>26490555
>What do you intend the Dragoon's army to be like? They are the strongest army in NijiEn (IIRC) so a lot of NIji's army would be modeled after them (or influenced by them) too.
Kind of explained it in my piece on them. Basically, they rely on Lancers, Dragoons (Which are proficient on horse and on foot), musketeers and Pikes to a degree. Primative forms of Bayonets have started to be made but aren't there yet for the pike to be abandoned) As stated, Feeshland distrusts their own citizens and is corrupt as hell. Pomerania is fractured but has powerful armies like the dragoons have. Eliria has an army, it is up to date but too small. They basically focus on the arts.

>>26490033
Not at all familiar with per/early modern Malesia naval combat but from some of the artworks irl Indonesian ship combat probably fights more like ancient triremes than 18th century frigates.

>>26490737
>Kind of explained it in my piece on them
Oops missed it. Their army is kind of similar to /who/'s historical army, just with a more emphasis on cavalry. Should be of interest to any observers from /who/.

>Feeshland distrusts their own citizens and is corrupt as hell
Not 100% convinced they straight up don't use any firearms in the army but it's funny (and because you are basically their rep) so we'll go with that.

>>26491205
Well, They WILL use firearms now LMAO.

POMERLANE Chapter VIII: Western Anabasis
https://rentry.org/8xwua
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>>26488252
>>26489220
>>26489615
>>26489816
Pomerlane anon literally told us his method of storywriting in the first work. See the work through an in-universe lense, told by someone who thought pomerlane a war-hero

>Not everything that is said is true in this story or following ones, as is the case with all real stories. Legends always tell exaggerated tales, but it is your job to figure out what is just legend and what isnt. That, I will keep secret. ;) You can also choose to believe it all, as that is the best way to enjoy a story like this.
- https://rentry.org/n98i7

>>26490778
Probably something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apilan_and_kota_mara#Example_on_records
I don't think the region at that period has many major naval combats, so the majority of naval battles tend to be pirate raids of sort from the look of it

Y'know while we joke about chumbuds being silly pajeets, they seem pretty determined to go to war with literally everyone and I think it might be fun to see what a Sea war would be like

What all is this? Roleplaying thread?

Now that I think about it, did we ever clear up where the world is on firearms? If I remember right we’re generally at around 1780s tech, so what would the current status on guns be?

>>26492678
World building! All the threads of /vt/ come together and make a cool planet with nations based on their threads! Feel free to glance at the lore doc if you’re curious. We also make stories about the world, so it’s not all just lore building.

>>26492736
flintlocks and muskets i guess?

>>26492811
I just glanced at it and I don't even know where to start. I think I may be too stupid for this.

>>26492449
Looking forward to fulfilling the prophecy, colonizing the entire subcontinent for the Serene Republic, and establishing the East Chumbudia Company

>>26492678
Tell us your allegiance, oh strange traveler

>>26492948
Not to worry, I’m happy to help! I’d suggest scrolling down to the Nijicontinent, where you might be more familiar with the content. Pick a split you know best, for example /NijiEN/, and have a nice read from there!
If you have any questions, we’re all more than happy to answer them. And if you think writing isn’t for you but enjoy the content, that’s perfectly okay! We’d be happy to have you as someone we can bounce ideas off of or even as a spectator.

>>26493119
I said happy three times there. I should really brush up on my lexicon.

>>26492736
Depends on the thread but its late 1700s to early 1800s with some threads being at around mid 1800s
so muskets and early rifles, and for the most part they would be muzzle-loaded. Some early breech-loaded designs may exist.

>>26493065
I am just a very lost kindred. I don't normally leave the nijiEN thread since the rest of the board is pretty hostile towards my oshi, but this place has been coming up more often in there and I got curious.
>>26493119
Thanks! I do like reading things, so I'll go take a look.

>>26493473
i really don't know why. there have been a massive influx of newcomers, usually one rep is an occasion, i think we may have gotten three or four in the past week, maybe it's just because it's more active

>>26493473
ohh a kindred, we could use some more far east flavour in this world, welcome

>>26493610
I like it. Having an alive thread where things are happening is fun!

>>26493473
Hi kindred! Hope you enjoy your stay!

>>26493473
Welcome! Don't be afraid to ask any questions you might have while reading! Most of us don't bite

>>26493610
Well, it's summer so some people (myself included) have a bit more spare time. Just gotta get down into actually writing stuff. I've started theory crafting my next little story.

Pomerlane, Chapter IX: Diplomacy at Kalmar (LAST OF THE DAY)
https://rentry.org/nbkix
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>>26493361
i have been routinely told 1750.

>>26494205
Pomerlane anon, I kneel. I wish I had your willpower and inspiration

>>26494205
how do you output so many of these

>>26494245
Thats the general level, yes, but exceptions like /nasa/, /infinity/, /nasfaqg/, and I guess /who/ (I havent yet read that far into their lore, but they come across as higher tech) do exist.

Exceptions do exist in the other direction as well, with /meat/ and /risu/ being prime examples

>>26494253
Thank you, It's hard to stop me with both of those at hand.
>>26494264
My history and writing Autism. I love to write and I love stories. I do this in my head without things to. It's just a set myself up for an epic story here and I want to see it through.

>>26494245
Orginally the decision is to set the average around 1700, but it has since been drifting around due to the punk history nature of the setting. Then again, once you start introducing magic into the mix, the lines start to get pretty blurry

>>26494396
Have you considerd maybe making an archive for the tale of Pomerlane? A rentry where you would have links to each individual piece?

I could make you an example real quick, and you could jsut copypaste the "text" section and keep adding the links to new parts at the bottom.

>>26442631
Well, I don't see much in the way of a generic goalhorn in case one of the non-medals ever score. And so help me, I will try my best to make /who/ deserving of a different name despite suggesting it myself.

>>26494604
That's going to happen, I promise ill make it soon.

Magnus is a badass as is Opimius. Love how this story has developed good characters beyond main one.

Note: Indonesia from 1600 up until the end of WW2 were controlled by the Dutch as colonies. That probably has something to do with it. Also as early as 1300 the Chinese brought over cannons and the basics of gunpowder. I'm phoneposting right now but I know they had a cannon called the cetbang. I believe it's more like the European big cannons. Let me look it up.

>>26494530
with this in mind i would not even be surprised that guns itself aren't even that sought after since you would have plenty of chuubanite stuff, magic or racial features that would make guns pretty useless

>>26495164
That kind of depends. I'm still a proponent of having technology be on an equal footing with magic

>>26495164
>>26495211
Magic in of itself was supported by some as an equalizer between those generals that wished to remain on a lower tech level to help them out against those that embraced the higher tech level. Main examples are /meat/ and /risu/, there's no real point in making chuubanite gunpowder of questionable effectiveness when normal gunpowder works just right.

>>26492816
And bayonets, small swords, sabres, and canons. Most warfar is naval battles at this time. Building warships is where many of the technological invention went to. Land combat won't be revolutionized until the Industrial Revolution.

Ok the cetbang is also an anti ship gun. I guess Indonesia area at the time just never made giant cannons like the Europeans did.

>>26495346
smokeless powder...

Just finished reading through the niji stuff. I feel a little like my brain is leaking out of my ears but it was all very interesting! The rosebuta stuff in particular was very cool, I love fantasy biology like that. The kindred pregnancy cult...I feel called out lmao. But I have a few questions!
>What is chuubanite?
I read through the overview on it too but I'm still not sure I get it. Is it essentially just a magic point system, but in the form of fancy rocks?
>NijiEN
I might just be dumb but I'm a little confused. Is Ninisani an empire or a federation? Some of the documents say one thing while the rest say the other. Or was it an empire in the past and is now a federation?

>>26495412
i mean, I thought it was an Empire in name only, that's how I have been writing it. If you are reading Pomerlane, that is.

>>26495412
>The rosebuta stuff in particular was very cool, I love fantasy biology like that
rosebud wins again

>>26495164
Precisely what >>26495346 said. Citing from the chuubanite overview

>4. Chuubanite should not become the optimal solution to everything. Normal technology should be able to compete with chuubanite magic to certain extent, and in some cases, it should be able to outperform chuubanite magic. For example, in the case of using chuubanite as a propellant in guns, gunpowder would be just as, if not more, effective while also being cheaper. In the case of using chuubanite to power machinery, conventional power sources such as waterwheels and coal have the advantage of, again, being cheaper, but also not deteriorating over time like chuubanite does.

I'm not sold on Chuubanite personally, I'd rather have the Oshis serve like Iliad Deities.

>>26495544
where is paragraphs anon when you need him...

>>26495211
oh yeah sorry i meant guns are useless against certain enemies.

it is still gonna be useful against fleshy humanoids and probably the best tool for public safety forces for most of the world

for an overall military weapon however i cannot see it have quite the same priority as it had in our world due to muskets or flintlocks pretty much having no impact on like a dragon, an onobot, an /uuu/ elder tree ect.

meanwhile cannons and melee weapons are probably way more focused since those can impact even those kind of situations.

>>26495577
I mean, it's way cooler imo for like Oshiis to be called upon and do crazy shit.

>>26495505

>>26495634
There is an interpretation of chuubanite where the vitubium element acts as a bridge between the vtuebr world and the vt-world, and you do this calling of the deities through the use and consumption of the material chuubanite, but I dont know how canon this is considered i am personally a fan

>>26495633
is ez, just get bigger gun

I think it would be more cool for Nijisanji Deities to behave like Iliad shit and Hololive to be different.

The more I read about chuubanite the more confused I become.

>>26495577
i thought you guys didn't like how complex everything was getting, what with the nuclear physics and quantum mechanics we were starting to get into.
>>26495544
soft magic system, deus ex machina, our current system helps us balance our options while giving us a creative way to explain and structure how magic works in general. it's also more symbolic.
>>26495702
that was my original proposition, it can still be canon, and i think it would make sense if it did, but it isn't as integral to how the magic system works now that we have magic quanta.

>>26495505
>>26495346
i did not say magic is better than technology i said that GUNS and only GUNS might not be as sought after and potent as it would be in our world BECAUSE magic and stuff can make is less effective and thsu probably OTHER TECHNOLOGY are probably getting more ivnested in instead

>>26495753
Its good to get to know the system but if it is too confusing, refer to >>26495653 and just be sure not to make any too OP or reality breaking things. In general teleportation, time and space manipulation, infinite energy shenanigans etc should be avoided

FYI, Pomu with her actual lore can call down hurricanes and thunderstorms

>>26495793
is ez, just make bigger gun.
Still, guns falls under technology for these purposes

>>26495822
Yes because she comes from the Rainpuff clan
also this should be concerning to everyone about Pomerlane as he is achieving Pomu's mission which is
> to become the world's strongest fairy and achieve world domination.

>>26495805
I just like shit posting when magic is brought up kek

>>26495896
I know and I love you for it even though I'm one of the biggest chuubanite autists

>>26495732
That sounds fun!

>>26495822
Okay, that is fucking terrifying considering how important navies are. I guess we should not piss off Pomerlane...

>>26495926
What about paragraphs anon?

>>26495970
he is one of them too

>>26495732
From my limited experience with both companies this makes sense as a translation of meta to lore too, actually. Nijisanji talents are more likely to directly interact with fans through twitter convos and such, aren't they? So in-universe maybe they're quicker to resort to divine intervention.

>>26495993
That's how we make sense of it.

>>26495993
Usually /here/ chuubas are the ones who have divine intervention.

>>26496076
A good half of nijiEN is proven to be /here/

>>26495993
divine intervention is a very slippery slope and should not become something used just cause

because if you say niji gods are quicker to react than holo gods then what about indie gods that should do it even more often, and what about nations not directly linked to specific gods or share the same gods as other countries like /hag/ and /shishlamy/

>>26496111
Makes me wish Hololive wasn't twiddit.

To the Anon who want this all in a Doc, here. As long as you have the link you can always have the latest https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRbjyPu0Z3QmezZuL8jbtqRhzHz78ceQH1qlGhKfiG_V0q4R7FAN_maEIPzib4gG6D8MFQl-2R_K05y/pub

>>26496185
So is Chuubanite. The moral is don't make your story rely on these that much and minimize it.

>>26496267
how so?

>>26444823
The first climateanon also made the plate tectonics and geologic provinces rentries
>>26445318
> the first climateanon was a Kronie
Yeah, he is, but he is also from /nasfaqg/

>>26495822
And I'd like to remind you of the post right above yours. It'd be fair for Pomu to serve as a goddess of weather (storms) in a pantheon of Nijis or something like that, but let's try to keep powerlevels in the material world reasonable

>>26496307
Because if you were irresponsible with it, you could make superweapon bullshit. At the end of the day, no story should ever rely on stuff like that to make it make sense.

>>26496332
As Pomerlane anon, I had no intention of abusing it at all. It's irresponsible to make your story depend on things like that. Maybe you will see it once or twice, but nothing ridiculous

>>26496352
Super weapons will be inevitable in a Niji-Holo world war.

>>26496437
If they are inevident, then Divine Intervention is too. We can do better than that.

>>26496437
Why would such a war happen anyways? Pomerlane anon is the only one here who seems to know how to write about war good and he doesn't seem interested in going global.

>>26496185
To be fair, the frequency and strength of divine intervention aren't necessarily connected, and even for niji, I don't think many really try to directly address and influence /vt/, so I would say it's probably more like niji having more omens and oracles than anything.
I would say truly significant intervention probably will require a higher /here/ presence like Kiki and Pippa, and even then I doubt they would be superweapon-level. I guess the closest we have is how /pyon/ got their island explicitly because Kiki wants that on our map

>>26496352
have you read the chuubanite rentry? the stuff is radioactive, but it can't go super critical. unless you have enough technological advancement to already have superweapons, chuubanite isn't a big problem. meanwhile, you pretending divine intervention isn't way, way, worse is somewhat disingenuous. to be fair, though, as someone who thinks divine intervention is the most boring, and anti-creative idea an amateur writer could possibly go for, i might be a bit biased.

>>26496531
The whole point is both can be abused by someone who doesn't care about Lore as much.

>>26496563
someone who doesn't care about lore isn't going to follow any of our rules, but at least with chuubanite we have rules for those of us who do care.

>>26496517
Pippa got IP range banned. What does that mean in lore when a /here/ chuuba gets banished by jannies?

fair amount of new anons been coming through; is someone going around advertising the thread? is it that /ggg/ pajeet?

>>26496644
Pomerlane has got quite a few interested from NijiEN. Don't know about elsewhere.

>>26496641
jannies are gods of this plane of existence, chuubas are gods of the conceptual realm, them kicking /here/ chuubas just means they are trying to stifle the connection, but they are utterly impotent in doing so, so it ultimately has little to no effect. /here/ chuubas might not post /here/, but if they communicate /here/ then they are /here/ as far as i am concerned.

>>26496757
basically, in universe, jannies are trying to abuse what little power they have over the chuubas in a revolt, but the best they can hope for is a temporary disruption.

Pomerlane is a wait and see. /nasa/ does not have the means to wage offensive war. Also /nasa/ is discouraged from intervening in wars unless that war targets /nasa/ directly. Flower piggles are nice people though. Please no bully flower piggles.

>>26496612
the difference i see is that the way we use chuubanite can absolutly be the backbone of a story the, even more so with the way most nations use it as some "passive buff"

even with the battle blimp i could never justifiy it in a reasonable way why it would be some absolutly indestructible fortress of doom that cannot be destroyed what so ever just because of chuubanite, its gonna be a sturdier watership at the cost of needing so specific resources that it will take decades just to built one

meanwhile it can be an easy out to have some superhuman person throwing lightning bolts around because "he is the chosen of my god and he bestowed these powers upon him" to go around and have him alone kill a million people

>>26496878
/nasa/ has no reason to care what he does in the first place because he has no plans for Holos unless they decide to be stupid enough to attack him.

>>26496757
>>26496824
In this case, it's simply more likely that pippa's ISP got rangebanned instead of her specifically, a casualty you could say.

>>26496916
>meanwhile it can be an easy out to have some superhuman person throwing lightning bolts around because "he is the chosen of my god and he bestowed these powers upon him" to go around and have him alone kill a million people
Which is why I'm (not that anon) iffy about having divine interference in the world at all, because it gives room for someone to argue that it wouldn't break the theme of the setting. I'd really rather not have a superpowered arms race and just keep the supernatural stuff kinda low-key.

>>26497086
>I'd really rather not have a superpowered arms race and just keep the supernatural stuff kinda low-key.
That's what I want period.

why the hell are holobros so concerned about Pomerlane when Pomerlane anon has repeatedly said over and over, that unless provoked, Pomerlane isn't going to even care about Holos? I'd imagine if provoked, he would just target the nation who provoked him too. This isn't worth having a arms race over.

>>26497258
because we remember what happened with /infinity/ and their isolationism

>>26497283
you really shouldn't worry though because who in their right mind is going to start shit that you can clearly avoid.

>>26497370
>who in their right mind is going to start shit that you can clearly avoid.
A Chumbud.

>>26496916
i don't get this argument at all. with chuubanite, you need to be creative and think about world building while building your world which could give you an advantage if you are creative enough, but that would be hard to abuse do to the limitations of chuubanite as a concept, whereas with divine intervention you get overpowered asspulls right out the gate that will inevitable be abused no matter how you set it up.
>>26497139
/who/? look, i'm sorry if you feel your (in your own words i believe, sorry if you are someone else) too stupid to understand this chuubanite stuff, to the point where you want it to all disappear, but putting effort into things is part of any project, and for all the time these conversations have been going on, you could have figured it out multiple times over if you stopped yourself from falling into that defeatist mindset. just give it a try, it really isn't as hard as you make it out to me.
alternatively, if you aren't that anon, sorry for what i said above, but a well-structured magic system can solve whatever problems you are having with it if you are clever enough.

new bread doko

>>26497497
Mate I haven't even said anything yet, jesus.

>>26497283
> we remember what happened with /infinity/ and their isolationism
Yeah but this is totally different. I have no intention of starting shit with Holos unless so idiot decides to do something, then Pomerlane will punish the moron and leave the rest alone.

>>26496945
/nasa/ does care about world history. Pomerlane may not be a threat to us but its still interesting to see how natives handle their own wars. Not watching the war would be stupid.

That said in universe /nasa/ is completely unaware of current events outside of their territories because we have no interplanetary spy satellites nor world wide web. /nasa/ only has surveilence and telecom equipment within 30 kilometers of the station. Even then reception becomes spotty past 10 kilometers and services become useless during bad weather and winter. /nasa/'s news of the world comes from our neighbors when we visit them. So news travels as fast as sailboats and horseback.

Also Sanalites in the actual /nasa/ thread don't really give a rat's ass about the Holo vs Niji rrat wars. The thread itself has become numb to Mozzie attacks that we don't really fall for bait. Those that fall for Sana bait threads outside of /nasa/ got chased out of /nasa/ a while ago. My opinion about Niji chuubas is some competition is good in the long run for Hololive. Same with indies. As long as you don't directly attack us or Sana you're welcome. I want to bake cookies for Rosebutas who are Nijis.

>>26497258
not a holobro but the argument that anyone should for example get an atomic bomb with the pretense "but we are not going to use it against other nations" is stupid, even more so if followed by "unless provoked"

its the same reason why i hate the /nasa/ spaceship. its an impenetrable steel fortress that no one can ever breach outfitted with turrets and railguns and whatnot and in the extreme case that for some reason a force strong enough to actually breach it attacks it also got a self destruct function that will let it blow up like a nuke. but that is fine because it is "technology" and not "magic" so it is different

>>26497654
>interplanetary
I meant orbital. God I need coffee!

>>26497497
first anon, that was an argument AGAINST divine intervention, not in favour of it, however you got that idea

>>26497680
equivalating invasion that may or may not succeed with a doomsday weapon is disingenuous to say the least.
>"but we are not going to use it against other nations"
Pomerlane is more concern about establishing a dynasty once he gets what he wants. He isn't a moron either if you have read the story. He knows that attacking everyone wouldn't end well even with all of the might of what an empire could be. Trying to conquer an entire continent, by the way of a sea borne invasion, is fucking near impossible. Sending a fleet to shell a city is different.

>>26497873
The problem with allowing divine intervention to the level you described (calling down hurricanes) is that it sets a precedent. From your writing I do believe you wouldn't abuse such power, but it changes the entire world's internal logic and opens the door for less responsible anons to abuse it in the future.

>>26497497
I am second and not who. My point is I'd rather not see either. Not basing whether or not one is more plausible or another. No superweapon arms races. That's all I have to say.

>>26497945
When did I say anything about divine intervention? What I was saying is lets say Menhera chumbud does something stupid like bombard a city. All Pomerlane is going to do is punish him by shelling his cities or whatever. I don't plan on doing any of that.

>>26498016
Blast fishing seems to be an effective way of dealing with invading sea shitters.

>>26497680
>. its an impenetrable steel fortress that no one can ever breach outfitted with turrets and railguns
Stack enough Gunpowder and TNT and you can breach it or at least damage it badly.

>>26498104
Unironically what I was going to do was that, just drop TNT. All I have been saying is I have no plans with anything Holo because i am not familar with it and my character has no desire anyways.

>>26498016
Were neither of these you?
>>26495822
>>26495886
If not then sorry, I'm not used to there being so many people active in these threads at once.

>>26498197
No that was not me at all. That's someone looking too much into lore. What they are saying is true, but I am also not following that.

>>26497796
i thought there was some guy who used the word "abuse" in their argument in favor of divine intervention. not sure if i replied to a different post, or if my sleep deprived brain mixed a bunch of comments into one and fabricated the whole discussion, but sorry if i misunderstood anything.
>>26497958
divine intervention isn't an arms race, everyone already has a world-ending nuke by that point. chuubanite isn't any more of a superweapons arms race than normal physics is if you follow the ruleset designed into the mechanics of chuubanite. i'm having a hard time understanding what you are worried about with this "superweapon arms race" assuming you've looked through the lore and know all the mechanics. stop leaving it at "jus don' like em" and give me specifics.

>>26498121
and how you gonna get that to the station when it shoots at you constantly with turrets and railguns? and even if one mangaes to blow open their frontdoor, then they will just self destruct and nuke any oppossing forces in X km around it to nothing

>>26498359
So far /nasa/ seems to be responsible with their tech so I trust them

>>26498359
They'll never see it coming
>t. I'm shit posting.

Here I was hoping to meet a lolibaba MILF shark girl with seven kids. Now We have to stack dynamite every time we sail around /ggg/.

>>26498428
Somehow, not literally this but something like this could unironically work.

>>26498517
what do you think the risuner fleet is?

>>26498388
IT'S COMMIN' RIGH' FOR US!!!
>Fires railgun that accidentally shoots /pyon/

The pure irony about railguns is that they're perfect weapons to use in space but are absolutely worthless on a planet with an atmosphere. On Vitubia because of the atmosphere /nasa/'s railguns can only get about 10-20 shots off before the barrels need to be replaced. That's because railguns fire shots so fast they ignite the atmosphere with plasma. The plasma over time will burn and warp the barrel. In space you don't have this problem. No atmosphere. No plasma.

>>26498428
/nasa/ thouroughly inspects our gifts at check points before they get close to the station for this reason.

>>26498388
so do i, thats why i have not brought it up until this argument, but what if they ever start getting irresponsible? cannot really go and be like "you are not allowed to have it anymore" after it wasn't an issue all this time and is the basis of many stories already

and outside of divine intervention, wich i am strictly against because it can go out of control way too easily, i hate this argument that magic and chuubanite is somehow "bad" and is never allowed to be on the same level as technology and should not be used as a pillar of storytelling while everything is fine as long as its technology (besides steamboats for a reason)