/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

This one, the OP is sexier

>>26410119
Fuck i want Flare to sit on my face.

Oh boy here come the tally and shitposting hour begin

>cullbuds
appropriate nickname for the most delusional and defensive fanbase

>>26410106
Of course not.

what is this place going to be like when kobo passes vox's subcount next week?

>>26410187
But it looks believable

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>86,846: Flare (Hololive)
>67,278: Pekora (Hololive)
>62,152: Salome (Nijisanji)
>38,022: Aqua (Hololive)
>37,258: Miko (Hololive)
>33,359: Subaru (Hololive)
>31,371: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>31,101: Hololive (Hololive)
>29,136: Kai Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>20,331: Korone (Hololive)
>18,960: Koyori (Hololive)
>18,616: Ange (Nijisanji)
>17,751: Lain (Nijisanji)
>17,422: Watame (Hololive)
>15,552: Lamy (Hololive)
>15,376: Haachama (Hololive)
>14,802: Noel (Hololive)
>13,374: Mio (Hololive)
>12,336: Vox (Nijisanji)
>11,735: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,225: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,844: Ike (Nijisanji)
>10,392: Ema (VSPO)
>10,128: Reid (Neo Porte)
>10,095: Met (774 Inc.)
>10,028: Kanae (Nijisanji)

A very stacked day with a fun horse race for silver

>>26410169
Seethe about it.

I like this one better

>>26410169
Being a culldenier at this point is so retarded, we have mountains of screencaps at this point proving it's real for all Holos and especially bad for ENs

>>26410106
huff that copium buddy. You will get more standard cute for the sake cute white girls and koreans again. This time they wont mix it up with aussies

>>26410119
Clip Numbers for the week
>>26334490 (Cross-thread) :: HoloID
>>26335342 (Cross-thread) :: HoloEN and NijiEN
>>26338527 (Cross-thread) :: NijiJP
>>26337962 (Cross-thread) :: HoloJP

>>26410169
My opinion on the cull will always be
>"The cull is real and it's unfair for EN"
Yes
>"NO SHE WOULD HAVE GOZILLION MORBILLION VIEW IF NOT FOR THE CULL"
No, and baseless calculation pulled out of your ass to prove it only make it worse

>>26410205
Post it

>>26410250
EN 3 is not gonna get culled looking at how ID 3 turned out. Zeta and Kaela gets 2k easily when ID1/2 had a hard time passing that usually except moona.

>>26410169
>the most delusional and defensive fanbase
Say the one that calls everything cope if it doesn't fit your narrative.

>>26410296
Isnt there polls with zeta getting like 2.5k votes to 1.9k viewers in like under 2 minutes

>>26410296
ID3 is still severely culled, they're at least double their displayed number

>>26410296
The number 3...the magical number
Is this the rumored "Third time the charm"?

>>26410119
Clip Numbers for the week
>>26334490 :: HoloID
>>26335342 :: HoloEN and NijiEN
>>26338527 :: NijiJP
>>26337962 :: HoloJP

>>26410296
Have you not seen Zeta's poll numbers? she is getting pretty heavily culled aswell.

goddamnit baelz, just move it to two hours later, don't fight the primetime

Final /news/ roundup for 19-06-2022
> Botan, Nene and Subaru announced to be performing at Project V Concert on 3rd July, along with ROFMAO and Yuni from Toy's Factory (https://twitter.com/projectv_4/status/1538114301189246977?t=kTpKdpSCz3XViSk3JnSaQQ).).
> Ironmouse-Haachama collab postponed by two weeks (https://clips.twitch.tv/EagerYawningWrenchAMPEnergyCherry-mEU8KntHa2WeOTWZ).).
> Artist Lily who did the official art for some of Astel, Ollie and Anya's songs passed away today (https://twitter.com/okyurita/status/1538220057016213504).).
> Ollie falls down the stairs and injures herself, taking a break for a few days (https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1538507797041623042).).

Misc.
> NijiEN-Shadowverse Collab Tournament (https://youtu.be/G1Ko98RqN1s).).
> Flare Birthday Live (https://youtu.be/H1vf2vF1LmE).).
> Astel - Memorial Utawaku for Lily (https://youtu.be/9Gkrfz-9FZU))
> Aqua Promotion for SAO Game (https://youtu.be/qWqoW4yW2NU))
> Lain Paterson reveals her new outfit (https://youtu.be/OGhddh81DZI).).

Minor Drama (only covering it because the talent involved addressed it on stream)
> Mori's label tweets out a limited edition pre-order bonus of autographed album copies for June 19th - 20th (https://twitter.com/calliope_info/status/1538184288667336704).).
> Fans who pre-ordered the album already are upset that they would have to buy it again to get the autographed art.
> Mori addresses the issue, apparently her label tweeted it out themselves without consulting her. She plans to make it random who gets the signed copies instead of it being first-come-first-serve (https://youtu.be/aK27uNcX9g0?t=505).).

>>26410212

>>26410296
id is culled harder than en

>>26410284
The second is false flaggers like 90% of the time if not more.

>>26410296
For people talking about Niji's vtuber academy and how Salome makes it pointless. It doesn't matter.

The academy was only created so they could use it as a strong bullet point in their IPO document/presentation. They never planned on taking it that seriously to begin with.

>>26410119
>>26351618 :: True Average CCV, per branch, June 1st to 15th
>>26255405 :: median of peak CCV, June 1 to 15, per branch

>>26410205
>he's believing

>>26410212

>>26410314
imaginary cull is so convenient for your "narrative"

>>26410433
riku really is a piece of shit, isn't he?

>>26410371
The numbers match
Subaru vs Toya
Botan vs Fuwa
Nene vs Kagami
Matsuri vs Kaida

>>26410212
>>Hololive x 8
>>Nijisanji x 15

>>26410463
what is your explanation for all the evidence

>>26410194
you remember how it was back during #Ventgate? Yeah it's going to be like that but worse

I believe EN3 will save HoloEN on the rut its stuck in like how every 3rd gen in Hololive outshined the rest before AND after

>>26410212

>>26410371
Thanks for the great work Anon!

>>26410119
>>26410139
>>26410385

God i wish that was me.

>>26410212
If it was anyone else racing with Salome this thread wouldn't care that much
But it HAVE to be THE Pekora herself
Also since I don't have Flare fanarts laying around, have this

>>26410463
So where do the extra people voting in polls come from? Do you think 100+% of people like a stream relative to the number of CCV?

Can runtbuds shut up for a moment? I want to stare at Flare's ass in peace.

>>26410212
what did mayuzumi even do to get that high

>>26410212
Why do ENs so allergic to streaming on a saturday night? It's sunday here in the east, it's free numbers.

is it time loop o'clock already

>>26410416
Sounds about right.
Also the nousgaikek who's got cumbuckets living rent free in his head in /#/ 24/7 just can't help himself and is likely to be responsible for more Peko vs Gura nonsense in this thread than anyone else over the past year.

>>26410212

>>26410538
Maybe to them Sunday is strictly a break day

>>26410511
>>26410482
Obviously the holos have THE most active fanbase in the website.

>>26410515
No.

>>26410479
Nijis and lying about numbers, classic combo.

Reminder Mori wants to start Rust arc

>>26410212
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349 - 3D debut
10) Salome (Nijisanji) - 71,690 - English study
11) Salome (Nijisanji) - 78,179 - Resident Evil 7
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 88,559 - Resident Evil 7
13) Chloe (Hololive) - 137,594 - 3D debut
14) Salome (Nijisanji) - 99,770 - Resident Evil 7
15) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,188 - Rust
16) Koyori (Hololive) - 105,030 - 3D debut
17) Salome (Nijisanji) - 80,943 - Disaster Report 2
18) Debi (Nijisanji) - 54,133 - Response battle tournament
19) Flare (Hololive) - 86,846 - 3D birthday live

>PER COMPANY
12x: Nijisanji
7x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
10x: Salome
1x: Chloe, Debi, Flare, Haachama, Iroha, Koyori, Kuzuha, Mio, Watame

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
110x: Hololive
51x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
14x: Salome
12x: Kuzuha, Miko
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Gura, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>26410371
Thank you for doing this.

>>26410538
ESLchama...

>>26410119
Thank you for protecting that wonderful ass, Pekora.

>>26410212

>>26410549
Sorry about him btw, you know every fanbase have someone like that
I tried to fight him off before but failed

>>26410538
Dunno, instead we got a debuff-congaline on a Thursday instead.
Like, one of the issues EN still has.

>salami gets bronze fair and square
>old timeloops suddenly reappear
really makes you think

>>26410296
>EN 3 is not gonna get culled looking at how ID 3 turned out
Baffling post, and one that shows how despite 1 fucking year of discussion people still don't understand what's going on with the cull.
IT'S THE FUCKING VIEWERS, THE VIEWER ACCOUNTS ARE CULLED

This means that new holos that will draw viewers from the EN/ID existing pool will be culled (see Zeta)

New ones that break into a new market won't (see Kobo). Now I'm not saying kobo has no cull, but that she's able to push way past it because of the new viewers.

>>26410616
Shitposter can't use Salome this time so they are looking for something else

>>26410616
You're preaching to the choir. We KNOW our resident shitters don't give two shits about who they shitpost with, just that they shitpost with something.

UWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Kuzuha will always be my King , Even though that fucking bitch can passed him subscribe .

>>26410616
Yeah, shitposters shitposting as usual

>>26410296
They'll get culled if they don't find a new audience like the Kobster did.

>>26410586
>12x: Nijisanji
>7x: Hololive
Salome is definitely reclining, but there is a high chance for Niji to win monthly gold

>>26410434
>nijiEN girls still that powergapped by holoEN minus gura
manjisanji...

>>26410658
>Sana teaching English
Oof, this is going to be painfully funny

>>26410658
That is some lineup lmao.

>>26410658
what a fucking weird ass combo of people

>>26410212
why is Flare's stream gone?

>>26410699
ABAYO

>>26410699
I respect taking the vecation to horny post your oshi.

>>26410669
Whatever Kuzuha tweet out is funnier than Salome entire stream
Dude tweeting style is exactly like Omega

>>26410730
anykara tried to DMCA it to save their numbers

>>26410637
maybe talking about sub culls

>>26410284
I barely ever see the second one outside of retarded pure bait you'd have to be an idiot to take seriously. Like the original used to look like
>15k viewers? with the 50% cull that means this is a 30k stream
now this barely shows up and you see
>when accounting for the cull these 10k are actually 90k fuck pekora btw

>>26410658
It would be as good as Coco and Miko, right?

>>26410669

Yes , He deserves it.

>>26410730
Music permission fuckery, it is still up in Taiwan and some SEA countries. There is also a mega floating around in global.

>>26410730
probably copyright blocked, they should resolve it in like a couple days

>>26410751
>EN
>Good content

>>26410699
Abayo nigga

>>26410586
>Chloe, Debi, Flare, Haachama, Iroha, Koyori, Kuzuha, Mio, Watame
What a weird-ass party to try and take down the raid boss

>>26410658
>Roboco
Understandable, she is close with the EN girls after all
>Miko
ABSOLUTE KINO

>>26410745

Yes +1

>>26410212

>>26410699
Dikkosan I kneel

Ey moar car!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2z7UNAEz0s

>>26410658
Migo will salvage this stream.

>>26410699
Do you people actually believe this will be deleted? When none of our shitposters ever get banned?

I was hoping at least one of these two gets into EN3. Luto Araka is an endurance streamer that would go through lengths for money, and Amiya aranha is a consistent daily streamer with an above average singing voice. But baelz got in instead, fuck baelz. An endurance streamer would've been better for the chaos rat.

sana will unironically save that eikaiwa stream

>>26410658
Should've been Ame instead of Sana.

>>26410893
well...

>>26410893

>>26410931
ame's tummy hort and/or she's traveling/renovating her office, anon.

>>26410914
Didn't Luto jump on that "parasocial is bad" bandwagon when NijiEN had that one yab?

>>26410658
I FUCKING HATE JPEN CRINGE COLLABS

>>26410658
Miko and Sana are going to be the ones the try to salvage the stream

>>26410699
Yeah, me

>>26410914
nijiseethe

>>26410914
>at least one of these two gets into EN3
Did they graduate? I stopped watching them after a while last year

>>26410914
You ever wonder if JPs have these retarded fucking conversations about their holos?

kobogod status?

>>26410893
anon I don't think you understand how subjectivity works

>>26411041
EN3 isn't happening anon. Council flopped.

>>26411049
"conversations"

>>26410914
Did you seriously just describe one of them as
>she's a whore who streams a lot!
Like..how the fuck is that the best thing you can say about them?

>>26411049
Their conversations iirc are more retarded than ours. They have more of them too

>>26411072
nijiseethe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hf_yweCZ7w
tl;dw OG minecraft youtuber poll results shows his channel viewers/subscription frequency correlates inversely with watch recency
If holos do this, will the same happen?

>>26411072
go back to shitting up global retard

>>26411049
All the time in 5ch. They wished some of their indies got to join HoloX, but instead we got Iroha and La+. The laziest bunch out of the other 3. Chloe is also lazy.

>>26411072
You got a point but at the end of the day that is not for you to decide

>>26411072
Even if EN3 was coming it's months too late. HoloEN is dead in the water, any debut now is like getting tossed off a cliff without a bungee cord.

>>26411072
This bullshit doesn't fly here, we actually know the numbers and Council is still a wild success compared to shitters like VERSEn

>>26410893
lol

>>26410106
3
hag
rts
cooking
trust the plan

>>26410284
I'd say 10k-20k are being culled from Gura for sure.

>>26411141
nijiseethe

>>26411049
what? of course they do lol, nips are not aliens

>>26410699
Im gonna COOOOOOOM

>>26411091
Luto's streams is jsut that, pour $100 to prolong the stream by an hour. She made $3-10k iirc listening to Rick astley.

>>26411072
fungus, your wave is a shitter compared to council stfu

>>26410658
>elite english
>robot english
>aussie english
>drunk english

>>26411154
That sound reasonable

>>26411144
see >>26411141
Fuck off, we're not retarded.

>>26410658

LOL , nijisanji is jealous , where are your senpai nijibro ?

>>26411151
you better just stream daily, rts as your flavor game where you play 3 times a week

>>26411217

Nijisanji is family

>>26410296
Zeta is more culled than Gura, cumbuds.

EN only needed to stream 2-3 hours every day while other people at their 20s are slaving away 9-5 jobs for 1/20 of a Holo's annual income

>>26411151
>bragging about RTS streams in the number thread
kek numbers poison

>>26411223
Would streaming Red Alert 2 be a good first rts stream?

>>26411257
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES NIJINIGGERS TELL THEMSELVES

>>26411283
EN3 will have 5 Koyoris

>>26411217

I hate senpai system , it's not fair , are you proud ?

>>26411049
you should have seen how nips treated polka when she debuted

>>26411283
nijiseethe

>>26411283
The wagie uncloaks himself and reveals his true reasons for sperging out about streams. Not because god forbid he watches all of EN and he needs 24/24 streams from the, but because he seethes about the amount of money they make not doing much at all

>>26411144
>VERSENn
Please... don't bring them into this... they have suffered enough...

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>>26411339
can we have 3 koyoris and 2 kaelas?

>>26410537
Tournament brackets

>>26411383
i can't believe salome has more abonnees than kuzuha.

>>26410194
baitposter will argue with himself for about one day, then back to nobody giving a fuck

>>26411383
Silverboy meme become relevant again

>>26411322
If you want to kamikaze your future growth yes. RTS is a niche mostly dead genre.

>>26411383
does kuzuha have rabid fujos that get mad for stuff like this

>>26411374
i honestly feel bad for maru getting jewed by sony

>>26410658
Miko might make it fun.
She knows how to randomly pull dumb shit to lighten up a room.

>>26410212

>>26410751
Not even close.
Those were some legendary streams.

>>26410194
>FB_IMG

>>26411436
>RTS is a niche mostly dead genre.
why do you have to remind me anon

>>26410212
8-15 win, hololive is over

>>26411453
he does have some but kuzuha's audience is mostly there to watch him autistically grind shit

>>26410212

>>26411283
>for 1/20 of a Holo's annual income

1/20 ??? Nahhhhh more than that guys

>>26411486
Pretty sure it's 23-0

>>26411436
>RTS is a niche mostly dead genre.
God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him

>>26411383
>Real entertainer
>Apex gaiji

>>26410509
nice noefure fanart anon, thanks

when did the switching up holo v niji tally totals joke made a comeback, thought that had died already

>>26410658
>AUS English
>Elite... Oh, sorry, ELITE English
Good lord ... Mori why, you could have just invite Ame ...
Poor RBC is gonna get btfo so bad ...

>>26411457
They would be solid 3views in any other corpo, it's painful to look at.

>>26411475
I still go for tibsun campaign runs to remind myself i once enjoyed games but id never wish rts route on any chuuba looking for success as thatd be the hardest hill

>>26411383
You know what the funny part is? Unlike with holofans coping about Gura having access to the global market so ofc she gets so many subs, Salome is just another JP. Unprecedented humiliation.

>>26411560
Thanks. I used to save a fuck ton of Sankisei arts, not anymore. And not like artist even draw them nowadays, they suffer a worse fate than gen 4

>>26410538
Western women being lazy. Saturday-Sunday are break days for them, so they can go out with friends/boyfriends. It's also one of the reasons gender pay gap happens: women just clock in the contract stipulated hours while men are willing to do extra hours for increased productivity and pay

>>26411572
nijiniggers lie like they breathe

>>26411475
Age of Empires 4 released not long ago, and it's very good.

>>26411639
Full sankisei art died with rusher. I still see absolute truckloads of cute pekora art though. Noel and Marine pump solid lewds but Flares always felt kinda off to the side and i feel like i still see more rushia pieces crop up

>>26411582
yeah the rrat is that the Hito, Alba and her were actually scouted by another corpo but sony told them that they would have the full support of sony if they signed with them

>>26411704
Opposite for me
Pekora is the one who usually got left out. Artist usually draw Marine/Flare/Noel more

>>26411383
aaand another Nijimember seething about Salome soon

>>26411715
I refuse to believe that rrat because it would be too depressing.

>>26411470
Newfag

>>26410296
zeta and kaela stream is extremely culled too tho

>>26411756
Wasn't Kuzuha already mentioned Salome?
>"I hope a percentage of her viewer go to me"

>>26411843
did he really say that because based if true

>>26410284
I'm a newfag here, when they tested the EN cull, did they test other EN members other than Gura?

>>26410371
>> NijiEN-Shadowverse Collab Tournament
Anyone has the ccv? Have a Laplus shadowverse shilling for comparison purposes

>>26411782
i forgot if it was hito or maru's support team that hinted it a couple of months ago in the short lived and now nuked verse discord

>>26411883
they probably mean the 2020 one and there's a table somewhere with everyone's percentages on it, of course trying to extrapolate that to today would be dumb, but sometimes they still do it anyways

>>26411882
He called them light mode users or some shit like that.
https://youtu.be/kScz8qfTB7M

>>26410212
Salami...

>>26411882
This thread was spamming the clip image the last few days. Any more than that I don't know

>>26410658
I love me some RBC and Sanners is ok but it should have been MiComet and Ame.

>>26411946
>light mode users
kek

* FINAL TWITCH TALLY OF THE DAY *

- 19-Jun
> 18,622 : Ine (KR Isegye Idol)
> 13,908 : VIichan (KR Isegye Idol)
> 11,983 : Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol)
> 9,365 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 9,263 : CodeMiko (EN Indie)
> 9,041 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 8,866 : Shylily (EN Indie)
> 7,637 : Shylily (EN Indie)
> 6,592 : Sakura Miko (JP Hololive)
> 6,578 : Bao (EN Indie)
> 4,692 : Revolution Heart Official (KR Revolution ENT)
> 4,407 : Filian (EN Indie)
> 4,340 : zrush (CN Indie)
> 4,011 : Froot (EN VShojo)

1. Ine Viichan and Jing streamed again after the 2 days off for the group project
Jururu just started her stream too.
2. CodeMiko turned another flesh tuber into a "vtuber" for a few minutes. It was horrifying.
3. Ironmouse and Lilly ended up streaming twice, 2nd still in progress.
4. Filian is inclining and passed 4k for the first time since mid March.
5. Revolution Heart Official is a group channel for a KR male vtubers in the Revolution ENT group.

>>26410658
>2 of the most popular holos with the 2 least popular holos
Corporate mandated holobox pushing

>>26411946
Uhhhh is there a hidden meaning here?

Current ?

>Suisei can help her ?

>>26411999
Matsuri is doing worse than Roboco.

>>26412014
normies basically

>>26411998
>JUNE 2022 TWITCH GOLD
1) VIichan (Isegye Idol) - 15,498 - Vocaloid WC React
2) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,571 - VR Chat - tween model showcase
3) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 14,343 - Zatsu, React
4) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 16,556 - Zatsu, React
5) Kris Yim (Board of Trustees) - 19,915 - Black Mesa (Twitch main page)
6) Jingburger (Isegye Idol) - 15,804 - Voting in anime OST championship
7) Shoto (Indie) - 12,513 - Playing Unpacking
8) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 22,248 - Zatsu, React + The Spike
9) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,832 - Poolside VR Chat
10) Nimu (Indie) - 21,050 - Among Us, Zatsu (7,501 before Raid)
11) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 20,477 - Zatsu, React
12) VIichan (Isegye Idol) - 14,668 - Butter cover MV in VRChat
13) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 20,357 - Zatsu - model expressions update
14) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 15,177 - 20 Minutes Till Dawn + Zatsu, Naver catchup
15) Jururu (Isegye Idol) - 16,361 - Artery Gear: Fusion + Watching Waktaverse MVs
16) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 13,021 - Continued Naver and clips catchup
17) Shoto (Indie) - 15,555 - Valorant with Vox
18) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 15,717 - Zatsu after group song recording
19) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 18,622 - Zatsu after group song recording

>PER COMPANY
15x: Isegye Idol
3x: Indie
1x: Board of Trustees

>PER STREAMER
6x: Ine
3x: Lilpa
2x: Gosegu, Shoto, VIichan
1x: Jingburger, Jururu, Kris Yim, Nimu

>>26411999
Lol
Those 2 are among the few Holos who would want to learn English and reach out to EN. I am not surprised

>>26411946
>He called them light mode users
KEK

>>26411998
I still cant believe CodeMiko got a somewhat second wind of relevance after winning that retarded award. Her shit is literally SFM model tier

>>26411998
>>26412064
vshojobros...

>>26412065
Miko can't even learn nihongo.

>>26412050
Holy based King

>>26412017
didnt she jump from 3k to 40k subs? while being a on the edge jumping for 3view to 4view now? Also remembered her vod getting thousands instead of hundreds of views

>>26412014
Light mode users being normies who don't know about dark mode, which is Basically better in every way. Go watch the pride flag clip as well, he likes to poke fun at people without being too rude towards them. Even as a HoloJP Chad tribal fag he's like one of the few livers who deserves respect.

>>26411999
Miko + english is guaranteed kino

>>26410893
Any janny in this site can decide over NSFW reports. Only board jannies can look at offtopic and trolling reports

>>26412014
nope, he just means that non-vtuber fans got to see her.
Even internet deficient people who don't know how to turn on dark mode on YT.

Basically new eyes that could eventually find him too.

>>26412118
I watched that clip as well
>See rainbow
>"Damn that's ugly"

>>26412017

CCV 300-600
Subscribers 43,200

>not bad 0.5% for this industry

>>26412167
>>300-600
Holo stars median bro

>>26412085
Not at all looking at the numbers.
https://twitchtracker.com/codemiko/streams
Her 2nd wind was the 3.0 model reveal and the "MikoVerse" promise
But she's streamed so little in May-June that that wind faded.

>>26412064
VShojo should forget about JP and work on getting a KR branch

>>26412031
Matsuri is unsalvageable

>>26412118
thats why king is one of the few people i kneel to despite people calling him slip king

>>26412221
>3/4 of niji's livers can't even compete with holostars
lmao

>>26412238
She could always transfer to VShojo Japan.

>>26412118
it's always funny to talk about kuzuha because a lot of people always when talking about prospects for starsEN and comparing to nijiEN say that they want bro streamers, and that's like a lot of what nijijp is

>>26412260
nijiseethe

>>26412119
Counterargument: Mori and Sana

so where's the en tally?

Gentlemen, how DO we save VERSEn? Either from the 2view hell, or from Sony.

>>26412031

No one bad for Hololive...

Matsuri = Top mem nijisanji

>>26411072
how are they a flop when they still pulled out higher numbers than any other en vtubers out there

>>26412365
That's some ugly haircut

>>26412280

>>26412365
huh, matsuri actually did pretty good this week

>>26412341
have sony actually pump money into them, for one. They basically had one push early on during their debuts, after which they were basically left out to dry

>>26412138
might explain why I was banned for a lewd before

>>26412407
But they only pull those numbers once a week (or not even that) instead of 3-5 times a week.

>>26412014
not sure where people are getting light mode from
ライト層 just refers to light (casual, as opposed to heavy) users in general, it has nothing to with dark mode or whatever
it's basically a polite way of calling them niwaka if any of you remember that meme word that never really catched on here

Would EN3 manage to beat Myth in ccv? And what would they need to have in order to do that?

>>26412341
have Uno sit on my dick

>>26412138
and also NSFW reports don't require subjective judgements, either something is nsfw or it's not, unlike offtopic and trolling

>>26412341
There's always hope....

>>26412167

Hoshiyomi Power

>she is vsenBox for her group

>>26412459
that makes more sense.

It was an EN understanding of a JP phrase.
And it made too much sense for us so we ran with it.

>>26412461
Beating myth as a unit will be hard simple cause of Gura, but they can definately beat the other members. Kronii, Mumei and Fauna is doing better than 3/5 of myth currently

>>26412280
Sana is a good streamer, she just doesn't stream

>>26411946
His point is that even many Japanese anime otaku, wota and flesh streamer fans think that watching streamers with anime avatars is cringe, let alone regular normalfags. You need someone to break that wall for new people to become "hardcore" and get added to the vtuber market. Salome's format of short high energy streams helps with that since they are more like highlight videos. Someone who doesn't watch vtubers tunes in and gets a funny within a couple of minutes and now they are halfway to accepting that vtubers can be fun. Good for Nijisanji and industry in general.

>>26412341
leaving sony would be the only option
>>26412437
>have sony actually pump money into them
lmao didnt one of the girls have computer problems and had to pay from her own pocket even though sony promised to shoulder maintenance and repair costs
sucks that they supposedly have a 1 year contract but maybe they can be picked up by another company after

>>26412445
?

>>26412459
Makes sense, gonna keep running with light-mode users since it is a great description for the tourist that watch her.

>>26412461
Kiara, Ame and Mori are not a tall order, EN3 could realistically beat them if they don't deliberately sabotage themselves in the first month.

>>26412560
>Salome's format of short high energy streams helps with that
not really. they just vanish after her streams and they never funnel into other chuubas. did anybody in niji get a bump after salome's bronze stream today?

>>26412475
this always makes me smile
I'm so happy she made it

>>26410658
Why won't they just give us the Miko/Ame collab?

>>26412565
>picked up by another company
Itsuki in holoJP gen7 when? She'd give Koyori a run for her money, especially with all the support Cover gives to their main branch.

>>26412663
They are scared of what Migo would do to Ame.

>>26412683
because the running jokes would lose its flavor
its better to chase something than actually get it you know

>>26412536
Gura is a 20-25k ccv streamer without buff content like WWE. If EN3 can't match her ccv numbers, then they failed

>>26412725
anon?

>>26412475
Truly ELITE

PLAY DICE overtook Anus tart as the most viewed Council ori-song

>>26412725
Baffling post

EN3 will have an XQC level streamer
screencap this

>>26412153
I will now officially kneel to KING whenever he wins ...

>>26412475
>miko was doing the same numbers as verse
thank you for giving me hope miko

>>26412751
With good reason.

>>26412365

you are not lying.

>If compare with nijisanji , she is high member omfg

>low member in hololive ?????

>>26412751
Nice, it's a good song and Bae deserves it

>>26412560
>Someone who doesn't watch vtubers tunes in and gets a funny within a couple of minutes and now they are halfway to accepting that vtubers can be fun. Good for Nijisanji and industry in general.
Those people are just trend chasers. They get tired and move on to the next trend
I'm sure that once a new late night anime that airs at 24 JST becomes the next big thing in terms of popularity, they will leave to watch that

>>26412776
remember that day hskw had like 36k people watching her do apex gacha

>>26412475
VERSEn doesn't have a holobox, or their company's love and support, there's no hope.

>>26412663
would be a disaster with the language barrier and Ame would just crumble under pressure while Miko shitposts

>>26412762
>the reason for sseth upcoming hiatus is that he is debuting in homoen

>>26412791
Yeah, nobody will talk about Spy x Family 5 months from now for example.

>>26412751
Once again showing song and MV qaulity actually matters a lot for views.

>>26412725
>>26412753
In red her unarchived karaoke 4M celebration stream. In blue her WWE streams. Apart from those streams, she ranged between 20k-25k. If your bar for EN3 is lower than this, then you don't believe EN3 will succeed

>>26412856
like how squid games or money heist or tiger king just suddenly vanished

>>26412903
Baffling post

>>26412764
The fact that he have to apologize because his company logo was also rainbow was funny. People thought he was shitting on Nijisanji but in fact he just thought rainbow flag look bad on his car

>>26412860
>>26412911
replied to the wrong anon

>>26412919
April numbers

>>26411897
Didn't cross 5k I think.
Definitely didn't cross 7k as they didn't appear in live-ranking.

>>26412475
Miko was one of the first OG vtuber, she inclined when vtuber boom happened. Doubt we will ever see that again with versen

>>26412654
A tourist won't start watching some other vtuber immediately. I remember not watching anyone other than my oshi for quite a while back in the day. It's a gradual process and many people will just fuck off, but the important thing is breaking that "watching vtubers = cringe" stereotype for new demographics, e.g. Ayane Sakura started talking about Salome in a radio show and her co-host went full え!? after she mentioned watching a vtuber. Without breakout talents attracting audience from the outside and breaking this barrier the peak collective CCV would still be around 40-50k like in 2018.
You may not agree, but that's Kuzuha's point.

>>26412968
>Migo inclined when the vtuber boom happened
Anon, she was a big part of the vtuber boom even happening in the first place. Just simply saying she "inclined" is massively underselling it.

>>26413001
lol. lmao even

>>26413001
nta but i remember some anon saying that its hard for niji to do that since they dont have the box

>>26413001
Agreed. But so far Salome tourist haven't moved on to other Vtuber yet and I assume it's because her larping are quite unique in the industry right now
Salome tourist don't have someone similar to her to move on to

>>26412725
>If EN3 can't match her ccv numbers, then they failed
???
Are you a fucking retard? That CCV alone puts Gura at pretty much the peak of Western female streamers. And you want...5 more of that or you'll declare the ma failure?

>>26413084
Shitposter doesn't have the brain to comprehend that. Please understand

The number rot is getting to you Anons. Gura is an outlier, she's on bigger level than Ludwig/Sykkuno and valk after they went to YT. EN3 getting her numbers is impossible, it's like saying they could HoloX could reach JP3 status in an instant. But if they get to around 10k, then that's enough. 10k is already bigger than most streamers on twitch, even Luxiem only has two 10ks and those guys streams buff games all the time while larping as being bottoms. Even Shoto depends on the LGBT community to watch him.

>>26413084

If have 5 Gura in holoen ...... you can close NijiEN.

>>26413084
not even just female
last time i checked youtubes newest pet sykunno only doing 18-20k?

>>26413070
Niji have no box means they have no community which crosses over to support multiple talents. It means they have no floor so they end up with 2views, but it also means they don't have a ceiling, you can always pull in 10k tourists no matter who you are because the fact that you're in Nijisanji doesn't create any walls. It can't keep those people from flowing out, but it lets them come in easier

>>26412903
do you consider every new holojp a failure because they can't match pekora? wait don't answer that...i wouldn't be suprised if you were also gen5/6 schizo

>>26412842
Migo really would be too much for Ame to handle, lol.

>>26413137
Why did you make a serious reply to obvious bait?

One small thing
I vividly remember at one point Sankisei (pre Rushia termination) actually dominate the top 5 in the tally and can't remember if that actually happen or not. Was it the karaoke relay before their first concert?

>>26413166
>do you consider every new holojp a failure because they can't match pekora?
aside from salome (lol because of today), they can't even match fucking luna. edengumi and ranunculus flopped hard.

>>26413177
Someone has to actually do some analysis here every once in a while.

>>26413146
Sykkuno is a 10k streamer on Youtube(because of cull, his real CCV is probably still 20k) and Susan payed 30 million dollars to steal him, which is more than Anykara got from their IPO

>>26413200
But you could've replied to a better post, a post that was deserving of aknowledgement and responses.

>>26413142
that got me thinking hypothetically if cover wanted to recreate gura, is there any vtuber that has the same past life as her that hasnt become a vtuber yet?

Funny how Luxiem are doing their 6 month celebration in JP time nowadays, even Noctyx followed their footsteps and stream at that time for numbers and money.

>Luxiem gameshow & propnight at JP time
LUL

>>26413203
Are fleshtubers really culled

>>26413137
It's a numberrot coming from what Gura did to /hlg/ in 2020. If she never burned so bright she was fighting Pekora toe to toe for a few months, if she never had such a ridiculous amount of subs, she would not have numberroted people into thinking being a fucking 20k western streamer is somehow a failure or easy. Imagine a world where her subs weren't so big and she started post cull so you never saw the CCV halved. Oh anons would still be singing her praises about how strong she is for an EN to basically be so near the top in CCV, exactly like they're doing with Kobo now.

But because she had such huge numbers, EN are apparently failures for as a whole pulling an average of almost 9k viewers.

>>26413160
>you can always pull in 10k tourists no matter who you are because the fact that you're in Nijisanji doesn't create any walls.

>and where ? Such as ?

>>26413203
The fact youtube is shilling out millions to poach twitch streamers, while at the same time shitting on vtubers which are their biggest streamer is fucking infuriating.

>>26410371
Thank you anon. May your oshi prosper

>>26413202
>holojp
>edengumi and ranunculus

>>26413203
>>26413246
>Culled the streamer they spend a fortune buying
Why? You thought they would let him have some sort of advantage

>>26413203
>30 million dollars
Are these real reported figures or something people pull out of their ass?

>>26413246
Everyone is culled by 2020 tab/embed changes no matter what.

>>26413203
Susan payed $30m for a 10k streamer while her youtubers stream on twitch for free. Streamer now have zero reason to stream on YT if they are not payed millions.

>>26413266
my mistake. read it as nijiJP.

>>26413272
iirc it's something he said on stream

I WAS PROMISED FC2 RANKINGS YESTERDAY WHAT THE HELL

>>26413177
Not that anon, but sometimes you've gotta reply seriously to the bait, or tourists will start thinking the bait is the truth.
>>26413246
With the number of times that Ludwig's shown his analytics, fleshtubers appear to either be culled by single digit %s or not culled at all.

>>26413160
>Niji have no box means they have no community which crosses over to support multiple talents
but wouldnt that make >>26413001 pretty much useless since its gonna be just tourists with no viewer retention that will spread to other talents?

>>26413246
It looked like it.
Though it's masked by natural recline too. Due to people being properly outside for the summer for the first time in 2 years.

>>26413300
Well that's just incomprehensible to me.

>>26413317
That's why inevitably those tourists will end up Holowatchers

>>26413246
The 2020 CCV changes hit EVERYONE. THE ENTIRE SITE reported a drop in "live viewership numbers" by ~25% on average.

>>26413241
I don't fault them in any way for pandering to the audience that watches them. Its the idiots that think somehow that makes them competition to HoloEN because they both stream in English that I find cringe. Like they're a different market by both gender and nationality.

>>26413084
Reading comprehension. if they can't match her numbers, it means that they got lower numbers than Gura, so they are unable to break 20k
Even Kobo is slowly getting closer to 20k in her streams
If we look at Salome's numbers and we divided them by 5, we would get around 15-20k per each member in order to match Salome's popularity.
So with the help of holobox, if they are unable to match those numbers, then they "failed", as in they are average for holo standards

>>26413246
>>26413261
>>26413271
yeah blame the retarded tab cull youtube keeps implementing
>>26413272
>>26413293
Isnt susan courting xqc and pokimane with 2-3x that ammount?

Post "that"

>>26413362
And yet if you ask me, Youtube's terrible live streaming portal does more damage to the streamers than the 2020 change did.

>>26413271
By all accounts YouTube Gaming, the streamer side has no idea how YT algorithm works and no sway in changing them.

They did their own thing, what the 2-3 people on top thought was a good approach, entirely influenced by short-sighted NA Twitch streamers.

YT overall continues to do their own thing which benefits their 100 billion dollar Ad income, regardless of what's good for streaming.

>>26413417
Baffling post. Salome can't even hit 80k consistently anymore

>>26413202
>they can't even match fucking luna

>just Matsuri or Roboco , Luna too strong than them

>>26413448
Baffling post

>>26413237
Kyoresu, but unfortunately it seems like she's gotten into a spat of real life issues

>>26413437
"That" indeed.

>>26413487
> Salami sub 70k
> share dipped 17% (max dip)
> /b/ whore
nijisanji in shambles

>>26413203
>Sykkuno said that he felt Twitch didn’t “appreciate” him and revealed that an employee at Twitch misspelled his on-stream name in an official email.

>On the stream, Sykkuno shared a screenshot of an email he received from Twitch. The email’s subject line read: Twitch x Sukkuno Agreement.

>“I’m supposed to be the 28th highest earning creator on the platform — the 45th most followed of all time on the platform — and they called me ‘Sukkuno’ on an official email,” he said. “I mean, maybe I have too big of an ego or something, but I was shocked.”

What a bitch. Y and U are literally next to each other in the keyboard

>>26413417
>muh even Kobo
Kobo is another outlier you massive fucking retard. What does Salome have to dow ith anything? You realize the holobox does not magically transfer JP viewers to EN holos so what does it have to do with shit either, EN is barely developing their holobox.

It seems the crux of it is that you think EN should be subject to JP's ccv standards, which will always be retarded. If EN3 all are a bunch of Fauna tier viewership holos they will massively bolster EN. To aim for fucking Gura instead and deem them a failure for reaching that height...yeah, numberroted. Just a damn reminder that no one in Gen4,5 or 6 are Gura tier. And you want an entire EN3 of people who beat 3 JP gens.

>>26413487
nijiseethe

>>26413417
How long until Kobo passes Salome? Salome has been on a steady recline since her explosive debut while Kobo is still inclining with no sign of slowing down.

>>26413487
Salome literally just had a stream where she couldn't rise above 65k.

>>26413574
>nooo not my hecking fake online name
t.sukkuno

>>26413574
cmon anon, he was clearly just making a clippable moment.

There was a lot more he said and didn't say about the deal in that stream.

>>26413574
Hey imagine if your boss called you "gapeboy", and then at the same time a rival company offered you a lifechanging amount of money to go work for them instead. why wouldn't you?

>>26413272
if i remember right the 30m is what ludwig was rumored to have been paid but the only source of it was from his GFs stream where someone said blink when it gets to the amount he was paid
https://clips.twitch.tv/RacyGiantElephantOSkomodo-uGknb7lhDlU8ldRx?tt_content=channel_name&tt_medium=embed

no one actually knows what ludwig or sykkuno was paid

>>26413574
Honestly, Youtube is going to win the streaming platform wars because while they are a soulless algo-driven corporation and can't even display a channel's CCV correctly, they are infinitely more professional than Twitch.

>>26413616
It was a beautiful dance

>>26413574
>Sykkuno said that he felt Twitch didn’t “appreciate” him and revealed that an employee at Twitch misspelled his on-stream name in an official email.
funniest thing was this was that this wasnt the 1st time it happened rather it was the 4th if my memory serves me right since i remember him complaining about the same thing back in 18 or 19 to lily

>>26413601
Salome is currently getting 10k a day on average right now, which incidentally is not enough to get her past Gura's 2mil record, and that's likely to fall further in the coming days

>>26413237
https://www.youtube.com/c/Emirichu/videos?view=0&sort=dd&flow=grid
Emirichu. Maybe not Gura but Mori 2.0

>>26413639
>a typo in the header of an e-mail is the same as calling someone gapeboy

>>26413639
I would seriously not care about the fucking wrong name part, the money sure.

To even then say that and phrase it as if its not 30 million bucks that made you jump shit but instead "sukkuno" both makes you look petty and stupid (like you can't find any real argument why twitch sucks) and really putting some massive job ending pressure on a dude that literally just made a spelling error. Y and U are right next to each other on the keyboard.

>>26413001
https://youtu.be/yH8_IVAwVt8
pretty fun clip, but also proves that numberfagging is what usually draws in the tourists.

>>26413246
Ishowspeed

>>26413616
Not him but I consider it an exception this time since Pekora was trying her damn best to kneecap Salome. Without Pekora Salome might have hit 80k as usual
I would still wait for a few more day before saying anything

>>26413237
we already know that isn't going to guarantee success since mumei had a similar background

>>26413693
I wouldn't trust a company that doesn't proofread their emails.

>>26413574
Well Twitch supposed to be a smaller community than YT, most big streamer heavily overlap with each other, their moderation is manual. Maybe the sukkuno thing make him realize they're just another corpo and should just go where the bigger money is.

>>26413678
>Emirichu
only if she doesnt quit her r34 account since she's one of the few that does good western themed porn

>>26413734
I doubt there was even a little overlap between them. Salome has never ever had her number affected by what was going on around her, she never funneled to anyone and never black holed anyone. I don't believe Pekora saw even one of Salome's tourists

Imagine how much more successful Bae's Japanese week would have been if she did it when every JP was on break instead of waiting until everyone came back.

>>26412725

Ah ok , Imagine if EN3 everyone can break Gura ccv and Subscribe and have 30K-60K median

>nijinig status ?

how is oliver still the lowest subbed edengumi with free access to both branches?
he should get some kind of award

>>26413237
Weren't Mumei and Kronii already the other main candidates not called Nyanners? You'd have to find yet another anime-like girl who went viral more than once, but not viral enough to actually succeed on their own. And "succeed" in this case means 3-to-occasionally-4 view or the VoD equivalent; in case you're too numberotted, the entirety of NijiEN is pulling absurdly good numbers for the entire streaming industry.

...honestly, that kinda underlines the lightning in the bottle moment of Cover somehow getting the Myth lineup. You can probably find examples of individuals who outclass Myth right now, but I don't know how you'd find people who outclass them AND are obscure/unsuccessful enough to have any interest in applying to Cover.

>>26413724
That nigger is reclining tho

>>26413810
it could be worse, he could struggle to pull in 1k CCV like lain.

>>26413812
Being in Hololive has probably developed a prestigious reputation, you might be able to recruit actual 4views now

>>26411486
?

>>26413795

match will end . no nijinig in this thread .

>>26413736
>>26413812
I dont know about kronii but did past mumei ever do something that became a viral meme? im just curious

>>26413785
https://vrabi.net/video/97v5p9Ald4k if you check the chatter overlap there was some, but i definately dont think it was enough that it would explain the 20k recline from salome.

Filian got into the top 150.

>>26413786
Im pretty sure the only reason she is doing it now is cause she is on break from Uni. Doubt she had the time for it last month.

>>26414026
who's Fillian?

>>26413582
>Kobo is another outlier you massive fucking retard.
When you talk about success, you list the successful debuts. Kobo is a success and has a lot of merit for being indo only. New debuts also get more exposure from new eyes. If the new ENs can't match her despite speaking English and pandering to a global audience while riding the holobox popularity, then they are not doing so well.
>What does Salome have to dow ith anything?
To illustrate what the competition managed to get with their new debut and show the current state of the market. If Salome managed to get 70-100k new viewers all by herself that watch her lives, dividing her numbers by 5 would be a reasonable number for EN3 to do well, given that 5 people would get fanbase overlap
>You realize the holobox does not magically transfer JP viewers to EN holos so what does it have to do with shit either, EN is barely developing their holobox.
It has nothing to do with transferring JP to EN. If EN can't get new viewers, then they would be predating the older gens, or getting lower numbers
>Just a damn reminder that no one in Gen4,5 or 6 are Gura tier
Gen 4: Kanata is getting there
Gen 5: Botan is also getting close
Gen 6: Laplus and Chloe had everything aligned to be a 20-30k streamer, but one decided to not stream or do it irregularly, the other just went for the superchat route and became the highest holo SC earner.
>And you want an entire EN3 of people who beat 3 JP gens.
I never said 5 of them matching Gura's numbers, but matching myth

>>26413812
Mumei sub was from her music and was gathered for quite a while, Kronii was the one who become somewhat viral (very small viral) but both of them are not that viral in such a small timeframe as Gura. All of this are RM btw

>>26414016
>dont think it was enough that it would explain the 20k recline from salome
Her internet was shitting itself for a good 5 minutes, I'd imagine ~10k people just gave up after that while the other 10k is just the normal part 2 drop

>>26413795

Now

HololiveEN vs NijiEN
>IOS vs Android

En3 have 5 Gura (peak form)
>IOS vs Symbian

>>26414016
Comparing it like this is kind of redundant. First of all I am sure not all of tourist subscribe to Salome. Second, there are tourist who don’t chat so they might not counted toward unique chatters
So all and all there is no way to know if Pekora actually did not affect Salome tourist number today. There are too many variables

>>26414128
cope

>>26414128
That kind of suck. She lose viewer a little bit too easily
I might as well call her the glass canno

>>26414151
Symbian failed because of Nokia's poor leadership, not because it was a bad product. Not a good analogy for NijiEN.

>>26414151
>HololiveEN vs NijiEN
>IOS vs Android

More like
IOS vs Huawei

Salome's schedule. Looks like 6pm is going to be her regular time for premieres... But a fairy tale reading? Why?
This way Monday, Wednesday and Sunday are Salome-less days.

>>26414211
kek

All of EN3 will have 50+k CCV because their audiences will be less culled than previous gens. They still won't match Gura's real number, but they'll probably be at least a match for Pekora on her best days

>>26414200

Okay you have better choice? Blackberry ?

Why did Pekora's shorts fail when Watame's and Marine's succeeded?

>>26414311
Pekora's shorts were trash and she didn't get someone competent to make them

>>26414311
Pekora didn't shill on reddit

>>26414179
I mean yeah she still has a lot of tourists but she's building up a core audience too. She hasn't finished normalizing yet but it'll be interesting to see where her median lands when she has, I think she'll still be the strongest vtuber in the world but not the all-powerful monster of the past month

>>26414311
>Not as funny as watame
>Not as lewd as Marine
Yeah, that's a no from me dawg