/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

When I watch a mashi stream I feel like I shouldnt be there, like a man going into a little girl's room with pink walls and bedsheets showing me some of the games her parents let her play.

first for hes being degenerate!

I originally planned my stream to end to watch the chinchilla's debut, but I'm kinda getting the itch to stream again.

>>26375451
A-anyone?

Once I finish voice training I'm going to be a cool vtuber and make it. You'll see.

>>26379555
I use Streamelements for mine, but I'm not sure what you're asking. You can use Streamelements for other stuff like donation link, and some other features if thats what you mean.

>>26379555
yes, on the stream elements dashboard there should be a little drop box called 'overlays'. you add them from there

>>26379609
Hurry up so I can draw lewd things happening to you.

>>26379632
>>26379640
As in, do I need to use streamelements? I wanted to setup a simple chatbox overlay myself but couldn't find a tutorial and everyone just pointed out streamelements. I'm horrendously bad at this and can't tell what's what

>>26379916
yes use streamelements.

>>26379916
You don't need it. You have other choices like Streamlabs and such. I prefer Streamelements though, a simple chatbox and latest follower/sub is all I have for an overlay.
Do keep in mind that if you want a fancy chatbox that will need custom CSS and will have to be gotten elsewhere (i.e. not Streamelements or Streamlabs).
You can find them on Etsy, and Ko-Fi

If I hear the default streamelements ping or see that stupid fucking running zombie gif I will rush to close the tab as quickly as I can

>>26380107
streamlabs has css, it's how i made mine. well you have to make it yourself of course. i don't know if streamelements had the option for custom stuff i rather have individual elements in my OBS than everything stuck in one overlay that i have to micromanage on that site.

>>26380191
Oh yeah, I meant the code for it. You can put in custom stuff in Streamelements, I think it should just be called 'Custom Widget' in there? I get the individual element part though. Personally I rarely swap around anything in my overlay, so just leaving it in a browser source is easier for me.

>>26380289
you know that you can just write it yourself?

>>26380335
Isn't learning code hard?

>>26380335
Of course, but I have a fancier looking widget just cause I thought it was cool looking and what they were asking for it wasn't much dosh.
I don't doubt that someone could recreate it themselves.

>>26380512
these are very easy and there are good guides

>>26380512
It's CSS. Not too complex. People were learning it just to customize their account pages back when that was a thing. It's easy to pick up, and even if you don't fully understand it, you can still hack something together that looks good enough.

>>26380605
Do you have any guides that I could look at, I'm interested, or even places I could search for them

Actually writing my plans for the weekend in the previous thread makes me actually do them, the hacker known as 4channel (formerly 4chan) has successfully hacked my brain to be more productive.

>>26380902
Im in

>>26380512
CSS is pretty simple.

https://www.twitch.tv/jaydeadthegoat

drawing some big tits

>>26379313
Nice

>>26381395
don't like kronii but i do love big tits.

...

>>26382288
Hot glue

/asp/ies that you'd want to open mouth kiss?

>>26380107
So, if I want to do all of this shit directly in OBS, can I do that? I want to make my stuff as streamlined as possible without a bunch of random shit and plugins I need to maintain vs actually just piping the stuff straight from Twitch into my setup.

any good vid that explains the basics of obs in detail? there are so many videos in youtube, it's overwhelming. I checked two already and they weren't that detailed, or I am dumb as sin.

>>26383777
me and anyone with big tits.

>>26379662
what the HECK

>tfw going for the bad boy design
>female friends kept on telling me I'm a bottom and it will never work
Dammit let a man have his escapism for once ffs

>>26386027
A bottom bad boy is the pinnacle of fujobait. Go for it

>>26386112
Depends on why they’re a bottom. If the voice simply can’t hit those bad boy notes, it’s much slimmer chances of working. If it’s personality slip-ups, though, the bait should work.

>>26386027
gapmoe!

i wanna hold hands with hes!

>>26386027
You are better off as an unconfident bottom to tease it’s going to be cute

>>26383777
hes

what makes an entertaining streamer, in your eyes?
what makes a bad streamer?

>>26388037
personality
ignorance and not actually caring about streaming

>>26388037
>what makes an entertaining streamer
i think everyone's definition of entertainment is different, some prefer quiet streamers that focus on the gameplay and are very good at the game or are good at storytelling, I personally enjoy annoying gremlings that can interact with chat in funny ways like Chibidoki.

>>26388252
i think that something between those would be optimal. you don't have to be a pro at the game but it would be nice if you aren't totally helpless either. it's not good if you rely on your few chatters to spoonfeed you about a game that they aren't familiar with

>>26388162
ignorance as in a really stupid person or just ignorance about streaming?

>>26378965
I want to collab with Xia so badly

>>26388522
self post? cuz i don't mean this in any mean way, but like... by what metric do you come to this conclusion? it's not like she has content to consider

>>26390309
She has more than you viewerfag

rank the gen 4s

how much ram do the common vtuber programs take?

>>26390309
Heard her sing. What other content do I need to consider?

>>26391659
Who's even in gen 4?

>finding random artists to raid
>some guy is debuting to like 20~ ccv
>want to help out his debut numbers maybe hes cool, raid into him
>not an actual dude, reverse babi nijien fujo upon further inspection
>spent my entire stream memeing on fujos and corpos in my stream and saying i will impregnate my chat's boy womb and bussy before hand
i feel like i supremely fucked up but some of the gay shit i said was so unhinged that maybe they will end up liking it...

>>26392484
Jay...

>>26392484
smooth move.

lala wip
her stream was so cute. the end was so comfy im starting to fall asleep... i love her a bunch and hope we can continue being friends..

why are most of you (not all shockingly) so gay

>>26392337
no clue, that's why i'm asking people to rank them

>>26392824
Because everyone wants to secretly pander to fujos without even realizing it

captcha: 4D80K

>>26392824
It's not gay to kiss my fellow babis goodnight.

I haven't been to this thread in awhile and is there a babi mafia now?

>>26392484
Lmao that was a great stream

How to use email address? Should I reveal it to everyone or keep it hidden? How about naming? Should I go with [nick]@gmail.com or what?

>>26393788
It's pretty common to use an email address in the format you specified for business contacts. Reveal it. If you want something more secret make another one. I will say if you do reveal it make sure your password is strong and unique, and you have 2FA on.

>>26393788
You name it like your vtuber name. No way using your personal name is a good idea

Everyone and everything is moving so fast, maybe I'm too old for this industry...

>>26394559
The whole world is moving fast, but that doesn't mean you have to be swept away by it in order to make it

>>26394559
I'm 33 and these zoomers wear me out. Stick around though, nothing worth it is easy and your life experience can be a buff.

>>26384026
yes for the chatbox. you need to know some css if you want to style it, otherwise it will come out exactly how it looks like off youtube. then you slap your overlay skin over it or whatever once you got the cropping right.

you can also find a couple of presets and generators if you google for them. https://chatv2.septapus.com/

do more research yourself and also be clearer on whatever it is you are asking. i still don't know what you want to achieve exactly. "and stuff" is very vague.

>>26393788
reveal it if you need to reveal it. otherwise what's the point in making it public? who do you even want contacting you there? do you have a sizable audience that sponsors will want to contact you to promote their product?

just went and found 3 random vtuber channels off twitch's recommendations
https://www.twitch.tv/elly_vt doesn't state her email. 508 ccv at the time of visit.
https://www.twitch.tv/momo doesn't state her email. 2002 ccv at the time of visit.
https://www.twitch.tv/hinabobina doesn't state her email. 239 ccv at the time of visit.
(they could be babis for all i know but i had twitch muted at the time)

>>26394668
I'll be a raft! or an island...
>>26394962
thanks, fellow old person. We'll show them yet

>>26395049
Momo has a business inquiry email on her YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMasterMomo/about

>>26392484
>impregnate my chat's boy womb
Post your links.

>>26394962
>>26394559
Not that original anon but I look at myself and I'm like... Dude, I'm thirty fucking one and what the fuck am I doing? Is this my last desperate, subconscious attempt to stave off the realization that I'm no longer a young adult? Am I now (rhetorical question, yes I am) the "how do you do fellow kids" meme? I applaud you (both) for your optimism but... I mean I'll keep flailing about ineffectually, but I seriously doubt I'm ever gonna break above my current average of 3ish CCV

>>26391659
I like bibi and glen a lot.

man.. i hate rigging, dont ever wanna do it again

>>26395395
m8 you play league and apex. Why not stick to streaming them making them a regular part of your schedule instead of just using them as a one-off.

Subbed to an aspie and they didn't even thank me.

>>26396427
cuteeee you are doing a great job for your first time rigging, gambatte

>>26396427
your eyes should be in one deformer for angle XY. it looks like your pupils aren't in the same deformer. in fact you can put both eyes in the same deformer for XY it makes it easier to rig in my opinion

If anyone needs help with CSS stuff, i can do chatboxes and all that and I'd do it for free, I kinda want to get practice back in anyways. I can do pretty much everything, and i can help with design choices too if you'd like that. I've done this professionally for a couple years, so I'm okay at it. I can also help with the technical setup.

Can reach me on the /asp/cord or on twitter if you are into that. (@truekaiser_) I'll reserve myself the option to refuse anything obviously.

i'm feeling kind of burnt out, both of streaming and drawing. but if i dont draw and dont stream i feel worse about not growing enough... how can i really relax?

>>26396427
I will draw suggestive pictures of you!

>>26397653
Take a break; do stuff you find fun and recall what motivates you and then get back when you're ready

You will never be a real Vtuber

>>26397780
how are you

>>26397780
Yes, and?

>>26397856
horrible

>>26397932
what happened

>>26397961
mental disorders

>>26397759
I don't know, I feel like I've tried that advice but I feel so unbearably guilty for taking time off when I could be working. I feel like if I don't give this 150% then I'm ngmi

>>26398023
get help, you can overcome your issues if you try

>>26396913
thank you a bunch!! someone kind helped me out with some stuff so the finished product should be better ^^

>>26396925
yeah i didn’t really know how to rig the eyes haha ^^; thank you for the advice though!

>>26397727
wha Σ(ºд º///)

>>26398037
Okay, Anon, I'll just be honest here: Being a Vtuber may be your job, but if you put so much of yourself into it you find it not fun anymore, then it's going to make your eventual burnout even worse. Trust me, I know; I went all in and tried to make it a job, and eventually everything collapsed around me and I haven't streamed for months now, aside from like one stream.

Vtubing should be something you enjoy; if you don't enjoy it, you need to take a break and come back to it when you're ready. Generally viewers and fans are more understanding than you'd ever imagine (sometimes to the point of taking it over the top mind you, but still)

>>26398055
I will soon, for now I just suffer alone while I wait
Thinking one day that I can fix myself, but ultimately too scared to do anything, and another thinking that this hell will never end and I can't do anything
Also why are you showing compassion to a goddamn ritualposter

>>26398437
bc you're worthy of compassion

bitch

>>26398366
I appreciate your advice. i'll think about a break a bit more seriously.

>>26398437
we are on the same boat, i have been trying to overcome my issues, slowly but surely also, if you are /here/ too it makes us automatically frens, no, you can't revoke the frenship.

>>26398558
Just make sure if you do take a break, plan for how long it'll be, okay? If you have burnout, it sucks, but planning the break's length/when you come back even if it's a couple of weeks is important because that way when your hiatus/break ends you don't end up skipping it because you're still too burnt out or depressed.

Again, experience.

>>26398213
What are you

>>26398757
a cutie

>>26398757
a terrifying creature that will haunt your dreams >:)

Anybody need advice? Can't really show my cred for obvious reasons but I'm coming in with good intentions, this thread helped me a lot a year ago and I want to give back where I can

>>26398892
If it's possible, do you have any advice for getting back after a long hiatus and how to motivate yourself?

Also, how to grow your stream and fanbase, as well as how to grow your twitter account?

>>26398892
what is it that makes a vtuber good to you?
where do you think your success came from?

assuming you're coming at this in good faith and all.

>>26398864
adorable, this is how you do a good unique vtuber design

>>26398945
I've never been on hiatus, but I would try doing really really short streams to begin, 30-60 minutes. If possible make them objective-based streams(3 games of Hunt, finish this tier list), so you know when to hit the end stream button. Twitch streaming strongly favors long streams, I know, but the goal for your first few weeks back shouldn't be growth, just focus on regaining the streaming habit. An out of shape marathon runner doesnt jump back into 26.2 miles, they start with an easy 5k, and so on.

Growing twitter account, post content. Funny memes, videos, etc. I never really went the leech route, which involves replying to a lot of people, but I heard that works as well. Growing fanbase, tiktok has worked best for me (unfortunately).

>>26398947
From my perspective Vtubing is cool because it makes me feel safer than webcam streaming. I think Vtubers in general are amazing because it's like an anime or VN that can talk back at you. My success came from having a good model out the gate, themed in a way where I kind of had a semi-interested audience from day one. After that, I grew in spurts using tiktoks and twitter shilling to send a steady flow of new people over to my streams.

>>26398864
you look like a homestuck troll

>>26399184
Good model as in really expensive, or really unique?
Can you give us a hint as to who you are, by chance?

>>26399213
I think so too, but I don't really consider that a bad thing. A former homestuck with fond memories of that scene would probably check out a stream or two just because of that.

>>26399244
By today's standards, my model was dirt cheap. You young'uns might not know this, back in 2020, a live 2d model(illustration+rigging) was $400-500. Nowadays I hear you can barely get just the rigging for that.

It's good to be skeptical and check for cred, but I really really can't give any hints, sorry

>>26398892
Miss you, Cu

>>26395758
neither have streamed

>>26399244
>>26399369
I didn't fully answer the question, sorry.

I don't think my model is that unique, but it kind of has a fanbase already built into it. I can't give more information about myself, but I CAN give an example of what I think would be a model with good potential.

I'm waiting to see a vtuber whose model is drawn in the style of One Piece. It's a really distinctive look and has a huge, huge fanbase.

I think the biggest mistake new Vtubers make is making a model that appeals to themselves and ONLY themselves. If you're aiming to grow, you should make sure your model appeals to a sizeable group of people, the more specific the better.

>>26399251
Not saying its a bad thing lol, literally just the first thing that jumped out at me about the design. You do you, little fantroll
>>26399369
So you're an early adopter. Do you think that helped you gain traction in any capacity? Could you see yourself succeeding today?

I'm going to go ahead and take your word from here, but one last question: Corpo at any point in time?

>>26399415
Miss you too honey

>>26399527
>I think the biggest mistake new Vtubers make is making a model that appeals to themselves and ONLY themselves
oh damn I made this mistake, already doomed to fail

>>26399553
Hoping I'll get to join you someday, just gotta keep working at it

>>26388522
let's do it let's do it!! don't be shy anon ^_^

Any experts here, Is this guy ok to ask to make a vtuber model
https://www.fiverr.com/kizuo22

>>26399540
As an early adopter, I absolutely had a huge leg up, no question there. I still think I would succeed today albeit at perhaps half speed growth. The key is that I use short video content where the vast majority of indies are just going live and hoping for a raid or something.

>Corpo
;D

>>26399557
If you don't care about inclining at all, I don't think its wrong to craft an avatar perfectly to your tastes. It is mistake #1 if your goal is to incline though, I'm sorry if I discouraged you. If it's any consolation, if you work on short video content, you can still outstrip like 95% of all indies in the space today.

>>26399747
>It is mistake #1 if your goal is to incline though
oh well, I was already going to get very few viewers due to my ESL debuff

>>26399595
You got this, I believe

>>26399704
seems half decent. the fact everyone says that there tends to be time issues is something to note if you're in a hurry, but quick response times is a pretty good thing to have. once I was dming around for fiverr artists, one artist only responsed 'hmm..' when I sent them the reference files and dmed me just a week ago with 'okay I'm ready for your commission' lmfao. funny, but kind of entitled to expect a prospective customer to have to wait that long when you gave no indication of that being possible to begin with.

>>26399704
I got my rigging done by someone in the ENVtuber discord. Fivver is sussy

>>26399747
thank you for the advice! i wish it was easier for us small chuubas to ask bigger ones for advice like this, it really does feel like there's such a wall between small streamers and those that have made it. so i appreciate it.

>>26399704
He has a showcase of models he's done on his youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4kojZZ22ALcw89zaD_tGog/videos

If it's up to your standard, $80 is dirt cheap for a model I'd say go for it. Based on the reviews I'd prepare for a longer than average ETA

first time viewer is it me or is grimmi pure gfe i think im falling in luv

>>26400014
The wall is real, the vtubing scene can be really, really lonely sometimes. That's kind of why I love aud/asp, it has a lot of issues no question but it's a nice cozy little space when the schizos are asleep.

>>26400033
grimmi isn't an aspie hun, even though she's in the 'cord i don't think she has anything to do with us. you probably want to head over to /wvt/ for more accurate advice, the only thing you'll get here about her is people acting like crabs in a bucket and lamenting the fact they were born with a penis

>>26400165
thank you, wise and honest anon.

>>26400033
she has a great voice, 9/10 she's gonna make it for sure if she doesnt quit

>>26400220
anytime, do try and check some of us aspies out while you're here. we really do try our best, and I believe that some of us are going to make it - who knows maybe theres a gfe aspie

>>26399704
Looks okay for the price, but even if the value is good the result is just mediocre. Will you actually be satisfied with that? The model will take time to make and there's a good chance you'll quickly find yourself wanting something better once you finally have it.
If you're not already streaming and don't have your heart set on a very specific design, I'd suggest getting a model from nizima or booth and using that until you're willing to spend more.

>>26400313
Everything is gfe/bfe to somebody.

>>26400313
ah worry not aspie, i shall one day groom a 2view myself or become the 2view that complains that he was born with a penis only to realise chuuba sex is much more common than he thinks
cheers to the gfe aspies, pic completely unrelated

>>26400412
yeah true, I'm not even sure I know what GFE looks like anymore. I do hope my fans know I love them, at the very least.

>>26400412
I'm planning to start in the future for now I'm kinda trying to understand how things work? Can I use webcam or it has to be iphone?

>>26400542
Iphone tracking is superior, but a webcam is still perfectly adequate. Ideally just start out with whatever you have on hand.

>>26398864
LIDL Lapin

>>26398864
Please don't be a babi Please don't be a babi Please don't be a babi Please don't be a babi Please don't be a babi Please don't be a babi

>>26400438
imagine waking up to see that, when i open the windows all I see are homeless men fighting and trees with graffiti

>>26401016
its a girl, her design is too tumblr and feminine. Babis always choose whoreish designs

>>26399527
>One Piece out of nowhere
This is Krimbo

>>26401141
I take offense to that.

>>26401286
nah, would be contradictory to making an ''appealing design''

>>26401591
I've seen him talk about "appeal" before, and he's posting on wvt currently
It lines up too well

>>26401053
we will all make it
dont let the shitpill nihilistic shit get to you bro it might not be this beautiful, but we can have an orgasmic view in front of us when we wake up

>>26401790
I can be whoever you want big boy
Any other questions before I pass out?

>>26401847
>going to bed
IT IS KRIMBO

>>26401847
would you maybe mind following/giving advice to some of the aspies here? I think we could really use it, myself included.
I know there was list anon who'd post in a lot of the threads awhile ago, I can try and find it if you'd like to consider that

I need a catchphrase

>>26402140
hey all anon here

>>26402001
Follow on twitter/twitch? I don't really mind dropping a follow but that'd pretty much give away my identity right now. If you drop the list maybe I can sneakily follow some people a few weeks or months down the line

>>26402140
badabing!

How is the /asp/ie karaoke night gonna be held? Just singing in discord, or is anyone streaming it?

>>26402173
here's the first one I could find

Cute Females:
Cordy_Ch: https://www.twitch.tv/cordy_ch
GoziMai: https://www.twitch.tv/gozimai
mashimyu_ch: https://www.twitch.tv/mashimyu_ch
MissFushi: https://www.twitch.tv/missfushi
HanadaRin: https://www.twitch.tv/hanadarin
LunellaVT: https://www.twitch.tv/lunellavt
MiruKumaa: https://www.twitch.tv/mirukumaa
heykayabun: https://www.twitch.tv/heykayabun
ItadakiNani: https://www.twitch.tv/itadakinani
miyochan: https://twitter.com/MIYOTISCHERUBlM
Necro Deerstain: https://twitter.com/necrodeer
Comfy Chan Ch: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAWMroTaNPPSgJSS0ReRJNw

Cute Males:
coyote_knight: https://www.twitch.tv/coyote_knight
Marbuccino: https://www.twitch.tv/marbuccino
GladiatorTemporalis: https://www.twitch.tv/gladiatortemporalis
ricecakevs: https://www.twitch.tv/ricecakevs
JaydeadTheGoat: https://www.twitch.tv/jaydeadthegoat
Hasu: https://twitter.com/Hasmekiel
Minimo: https://twitter.com/MinimoTTV
Deku Nobou: https://twitter.com/deku_nobou
Alto Tiro: https://twitter.com/alto_tiro
Kale Yville: https://twitter.com/KY_Draws
Shosan: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE8H_e_951zHWciykV1N8wQ

Cute Babis:
YukichiReikyu: https://www.twitch.tv/yukichireikyu
moliminoustheater: https://www.twitch.tv/moliminoustheater
Kaiser: https://www.twitch.tv/truekaiser
Ainslie: https://twitter.com/Ainslie_Vt
Dr. Konrad: https://twitter.com/DoctorKonrad
NasuMatsuri: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0MVm6lM8xd1zvcY8orOtgQ

I figured it might be better to ask for us as a group, as to not be selfish. but i'm mirukumaa
thank you again for your time!

almost done almost done almost done almost done

>>26402356
You're definitely on the right track, just scoping out your youtube right now and you're ahead of most indies ten or twenty times your size. You'll catch up and pass them sooner or later as long as you don't quit.

Small tip, I would segregate your ASMR stream VODs onto a VOD only channel and keep your shorter, 10-15 minute ASMR videos on your main. Shorts are on their own algorithm at the moment so they can go where ever you feel like putting them.

I would also suggest doing A/B testing with your thumbnails. Whenever you upload a new video, spend a bit of extra time making TWO thumbies, upload with one, wait a few hours, write down the CTR%, and swap out the second one and check to see whether it goes up or down. If it goes down swap first one back in. Think about it, if it takes you 5 or 10 minute to make your thumbnail, what's an extra 10 minutes for a chance at a banger?

>>26393673
I'm a babi, but I don't really do the babi posting. I think it's a couple of viewers exaggerating it.
Some babis are really cute, in a non homosexual manner

>>26402839
that really means a lot to me. thank you very much

>>26402356
>cordy
>fem
>konrad
>babi
Miru...

>>26402937
sorry, I didn't make the list, it was just the first one that cropped up on warosu
feel free to post a better one, I just didn't feel like digging for a bigger list that might end up being outdated

>>26402904
No problem, keep at it!
Also, no need to bother with thumbnails for your VODs, your VODs aren't for new viewers they're for your established fans that missed your stream/want to rewatch etc. Focus on making really good thumbnails and titles for your <15 minute ASMR videos, those will bear fruit for you sooner or later.

>>26402839
where did you get this idea doing short form content puts you ahead? Everyone is doing tiktoks and shorts now, or?

this is probably really basic but im stupid and need help :,D
so i rigged up an eye, how do i make it so it doesn’t look weird from other angles? like when my model is facing forward it looks normal but when it looks to the side it doesn’t </3 been trying to look and video tutorials but haven’t been able to fix it

>>26399021
<33 this means so much! thank you!

>>26399213
ive never read homestuck, is this an insult? ^^;

>>26401016
dunno who dat is, im fig, and my avatar is poii

>>26403373
Dont use the "reflection" option for the eyes, you have to do it manually for each XY keyform

>>26403373
>is this an insult? ^^;
didn't mean it as one, but that's probably up to interpretation. I personally really loved homestuck at 12 if thats anything
>dunno who dat is
babi is short for babiniku, basically a subgenre of vtubers that are men/men on voice changers with female avatars

>>26403186
Hmm, are you asking for the reasoning for why short form content drives growth? It's pretty straight forward, the typical new viewer doesn't have time to watch 3 or 4 hours of stream content to decide whether they like your or not. Worse, someone who MIGHT enjoy your personality, style, and humor might drop in at a bad moment, see you afk or not being your best self, and leave. Short videos are the bait that lures likely new fans to your stream. I admit that there are definitely successful streamers that grew without bothering with video making, but I'd bet a hundred dollars that they inclined because someone, somewhere made some clips of their best moment that blew up. So even those lucky few still relied on short form content to incline.

>>26403554
That makes sense, thanks for the explanation.
I was more wondering about how you said doing short form content puts you ahead of 95% of people. Isn't everyone doing this already? I'm interested in your opinion on how many indies actually put enough work in and follow all the steps in the recipe

>>26399369
Someone who came from around back then: can confirm. The market blew up and everything got super expensive but I got a pretty good model for around 700 AUD (like 500 USD)

>>26402285
just singing in the discord if it's gonna be anything like the last one

>>26403500
ah thank you! ill try that out

>>26403504
oh ok! if you liked homestuck then ill take it as a compliment ^^
https://voca.ro/1mTMW1ZLJDqe

>>26403711
I'm mutuals with and chat with some big fish indies that have never made a short video or even uploaded an unedited clip to tiktok before. They just got picked up by vtuber clippers and inclined hard in a one month period and are now stagnating.

I imagine that if you go on twitch and check the vtuber tag, 95% of the andys streaming dont have a tiktok, dont have a youtube, and run a truly abysmal twitter account. 95% might be conservative actually, might be as high as 99%

>>26403912
aww, sad you won't stream.
do you have any actual purpose for making this model? or is it just a hobby you wanna get into

>>26403958
That's actually very reassuring, thank you for the insider info.

p.s. let me in, let me iiiiiiiiiiiiiin. I'll be cool, I promise

>>26404045
yeha im making it mostly for fun and the chance to explore a new hobby!

who knows though, maybe ill stream with it one or two times if i dont give up on the model and it turns out good :)

>>26402285
>anyone streaming it?
wouldnt surprise me if a chukclefuck tried on a burner. or saved locally again.

>>26404232
If you want REAL insider info, can you imagine having 1000+ccv and going absolutely menhera because the incline leveled out? People who are crazy about numbers will be crazy at all levels, whether its 10 viewers or 1,000.

>>26404367
given how volatile an online career is and how personal it feels, I'm not surprised in the slightest. You need to be a zen monk to not take failures personally if this is a career for you

>>26402356
>no Azu
Rekt

>>26403554
it's surprising that livestreaming became so popular. it's the worst type of content exactly because you have to be there at a specific time and you can't just pause the stream to not miss anything.
there is absolutely no flexibility on it so you have to be there in the middle of the night for hours or miss it

>>26402356
some of the names make me feel nostalgic for some reason. lots of one off posters

>>26403958
lots of people say that they don't have time for those things. i don't know how true that is but video editing or finding things of your vods definitely does take some time and it can be pretty boring too

>>26404760
but you get to talk to the anime girl live as it happens

>>26404629
visage admitted to putting the list together. have you seen him and azu interact?

>>26404760
I agree 100%. Streams are NOT the primary avenue of growth, unless you stream with the intent of cutting down your VOD into a good youtube video(see Ludwig and Professor Lando for good examples of this style of streaming).

Streams are for your established fans that like you and are already loyal to you. At best you might cut out a few good clips from your standard stream and post that to twitter, tiktok, youtube. That's why I feel so anxious for hardworking folks that go live 4+ hours a day, 5 days a week and just... HOPE that they incline. That's not how it works, it hasn't worked that way since justin.tv

I drop an opinion where it might not be wanted and talk about twitter as well. Don't blogtweet. Limit retweets as much as you can, and when you do retweet to help out a friend, make sure to unretweet after 24 hours. It will have zero effect after 24 hours and it just clogs up your twitter page. It helps to delete your going live posts after 24 hours as well, unless it's a particularly interesting stream and the tweet itself has a good thumbnail image. Tweet CONTENT: images, videos, jokes, anything that's designed to entertain random twitter addicts that stumble across your path. If you follow these steps, someone who likes your vibe will check your home page and see a long list of good shit instead of irrelevant retweets and dead going live posts. They're more likely to FOLLOW if they see that your twitter provides them with entertainment.

>>26405138
Yes?
He's been friendly to azu.

>>26405108
the parasocial aspect of it is honestly the only thing i can think of that may make it worth doing. if you just wanted to entertain people you could make content on the platforms where it's infinitely more convenient to consume

>>26405179
I will tweet piss and you can not stop me

>>26404916
absolutely, making short videos is time consuming and it sucks, unless you're the rare psycho that actually enjoys video editing. That being said, if I were coaching an up and coming vtuber and saw that they were streaming 20 hours a week and nothing else, I would advise them to stream 10 hours a week and spend the remaining 10 making and uploading short videos. I guarantee they'll incline faster my way.

>>26405179
What sorts of images and videos do we tweet? Just like… stuff we do in our daily life? Or stuff on computers and stuff? Or messing with our avatars?

I know jokes are a pretty subjective thing but the others are hard to get down

>>26405179
you think just like me but are better at expressing it

>>26405337
well, remember that it all started with hololive and idols, and idols always had the aspect of "a star you can meet"

Are there any good vtubes who aren’t faggots?

When the schizos are asleep, reading /asp/ inspires me to keep trying to improve. Even if I am still too scared to put myself out there or join other communities right now.
Since we're talking short form content, I made this video a few months ago. I'm not the happiest with how it came out, but I've been trying to use what I've learned to improve the next one I'm working on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-gmx1VPFh8
Please rake me over the coals

>>26405383
For videos, do some light editing on your best stream clips, like adding subtitling and cutting out all the 2 or 3 second bits of dead air. Format it for tiktok(9:16) and upload on twitter tiktok and youtube as a short.

Images, memes work well. Try to make your own memes where your avatar is the central character. I personally hate this babi but smol and stronk built up a 11k twitter following just pasting his nyanner clone model onto memes he stole from le reddit:
https://twitter.com/smolvtuber

The worst tweets are the downer blogposts, complaining about real life shit. People are on twitter to be entertained, they're not gonna follow some shithead menhera.

>>26405544
There are. No one wants to watch them though.

>>26405593
i am awake but i didn't run out of happiness yet

>>26405702
I want to watch them

discord.gg/c95JQJqU
discord.gg/c95JQJqU
discord.gg/c95JQJqU
discord.gg/c95JQJqU

The /asp/cord

I love this little creature

>>26405834
visage why do you keep spamming this every day? don't you already have enough people to groom?

>>26405693
Do you have any tips on shilling?
IE, how do I make people aware I exist on twitch without relying too much on bird app.

>>26405693
One problem: I cannot create memes. When it comes to memes I’m like a literal boomer; I know a bunch and laugh at them but I have no clue at all how to actually make them. Or at least make them funny.

I almost want to do memes where it’s like the advice animal format (a swirl of colours, head in the middle, and huge impact font memes) but like, I know that sort of thing won’t catch on very well.

>>26405886
why

>>26406013
She's cute!

>>26405945
Twitter is trash for shilling, twitter is where you'll connect with other content creators and set up collabs. It's still necessary, but it will contribute the least to your stream CCV. Tiktok and youtube is where you'll pick up the most new viewers, in that order. Youtube is insanely hard for beginners, tiktok will be much more effective out of the box.

Go into it with the mindset that you'll get 1 decent performing video out of a pack of 20 duds. Even the flops will still probably result in 1 or 2 people checking you out. Getting a hit video is a RUSH though, such a great feeling. You'll see your CCV temporarily swell before the tourists leave and a few new fans stick around. That cycle repeats forever until you quit or die.

>>26392484
Fucking kek

What advice would you give to someone who already has a career outside of vtubing but still wants to succeed and gain an audience? I don't want money, but I want viewers and to be memed about

>>26395049
OBS guy here, thanks for the tips. I do know CSS so no probs there. How do I pipe in things like follow notifications? Is that something Twitch gives you a URL for that you use as a source? I am going to draw my own little animations and stuff for that, but I'm not sure how that actually works. New to Twitch as a whole. Come from a video editing/motion graphics/animation background.

>>26405971
It takes a while to learn what gets a good response out of people. I watched Smol make some truly cringe memes when he was starting out. Basically whenever you tweet one that does slightly better, your brain looks at that and copies what you think made it do well. Repeat 10,000 times until you're a meme god.

>>26406216
what is your current career?
I'd say find a way to integrate it into your streams
an example of this would be sensei yami, he's a preschool teacher and makes his vtubing identity around that identity. it makes him stand out, as well as incorporate it into your design and branding.

another one would be sukoya kana, an actual medical student/nurse/doctor (shes never said outright), and her vtuber identity is a nurse.
there is plenty you can do with your career and knowledge that will make your streams more fun.

>>26406345
Not the Anon you’re replying to but generally most streamers tend to use notifications that are made by non-Twitch companies like Streamlabs and StreamElements; you could theoretically make your own alert system but it’d be much harder, though also much more customisable (a streamer I know has an alert system that shows the name of the subscriber or whatever as part of the border around his webcam, which changes colour and expands for a second before it goes back to normal). I’d suggest StreamElements since Streamlabs is kinda shitty in its own right.

>>26406516
I'm not sure desu, I'm an electrical engineer by trade. I looked at other people do programming/electronics streams, and this is simply not a subject people are ready to jump into. I could do some memey engineering videos about robohusbandos/waifus perhaps
I was also thinking of doing gamedev streams, but these are likewise not the most viewable experience

>>26406516
Ah I remember Yami; he’s a pretty cool guy, pops into my streams on occasion when I do them (which is Rarely), and we started around the same time before I had my huge hiatus

Yami is a good model for stuff like that though, yeah. You can do stuff with your job, hobbies, studies, all sorts of stuff like that.

im fuckin ballin
im fuckin ballin, dawg! ballin on these 2views!

>>26406771
I think I'd agree with you
but that doesnt mean you can't incorporate those aspects into your design/motif, or stop you from telling fun stories about your job on stream.
you don't need to stream about your specific field or anything, but having the distinction of your profession, and the quirks you have because of it, can really set you apart.

>>26405593
I'm afraid of discouraging you, but I'm gonna go at it full power and give you the best advice I can. I watched the whole video.

Audio is the #1 most important part of video making. You need a pop filter. Also you should set up limiter, equalizer, and compressor filters asap on your OBS. This is personal preference because I know dozens of gigantic youtube channels that speak at around your cadence, but I want you to speak faster.

Writing, I think you could have made this video into a 3 minute video and got the same idea across. The script is great and in-depth, but at multiple points I was thinking, "I get it, move on". This is gonna sound nuts but when scripting videos, it's better to half explain a concept and move on while the listener is still trying to digest what you just said, lol. It keeps them from being bored, boredom is the #1 killer for video retention.

Your editing is decent, I can see the craftsmanship in it. I would transition from image to image more quickly, and add in more B-roll video footage where possible. Static images are boring. Whenever you MUST use a static image, try to edit something on top of that image before you move on, the goal is to stay dynamic and interesting. You did this a few times near the end with irasutoya stock images, those still images were much better than the stuff in the first half of your video.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ADD BGM PLEASE

Titling, I'd try something like "The Heart of the Cards is Bullshit" or "This is why the Heart of the Cards doesnt actually matter". I mentioned this earlier in the thread but I strongly recommend making a habit of A/B thumbnail testing. Make two thumbnails, upload one, watch the CTR, upload the second one an hour or two later and check to see if CTR goes up or down. Go with the one with higher CTR. You can do this with titles as well.

You got potential dude. If you make 100 more of these with the mindset of improving you'll do really well, keep at it.

>>26406771
Have you ever heard of Michael Reeves?

Of course, he’s a robotics engineer, not a programmer. But the sort of things he does are kind of what you want to maybe emulate (make quirky stuff that’s cool and use that for YouTube videos, while for streams you do different stuff like playing games that are puzzle/programming-based and the like; Quadrilateral Cowboy springs to mind for me).

>>26406345
Streamelements.

Link it to your twitch, and use the basic overlays, then switch in your animations/sounds as replacements for the defaults, and then add as a browser source.

>>26407007
Michael Reeves! He's the guy that's banging the shit out of Lily Pichu kek

I actually like his videos a lot

>>26406216
>>26406771
I'd say make an occupation as your chuuba persona (eg. martial artist, treasure hunter, spy, etc.) instead of just vampire/elf/catgirl#16123. Find creative ways to translate what you're doing irl into something exciting.
For example, you don't want to bore people to death talking about asset transfer impact for natural gas company so tweak it into "saving the country from natural gas explosion", or logistics holding creation into "securing supply lines for war party", or meeting with the board of palm oil company as "talking with forest elves".
At least this is what I'm planning for my chuuba design

>>26407007
Of course I heard of him! Him and William Osman actually helped me see a future for my skills on Youtube and such. Though I don't think i'll be able to both work on promoting my channel, gaming AND making cool projects on his scale. He doesn't do them much either these days desu now that he got into OfflineTV, so maybe thats a freed up space?
I tried playing puzzle games, but some people gave me feedback that they aren't that good for listening to since it's hard to follow if you're not watching the stream. Maybe if I'm bigger, I'll do them.
I was thinking of emulating Sigrid and Bird maybe, they seem to have started as tech/science chuubas, and everyone says thats why they took off
Kerbal Space Program, here I come

>>26407351
I wish I had his crackhead energy...
He reminds me of papa franku sometimes

>>26407351
>He's the guy that's banging the shit out of Lily Pichu
More like getting banged by her

>>26407485
rrats??

>>26407412
Ah, okay then. Maybe if puzzle games aren’t your forte then you could try out autobattlers? Not the full on LOL-style autobattlers, the ones that are more like dumbed down versions of the genre (like Super Auto Pets) since I’m pretty sure they’re a lot like programming with regards to the skills you need, and you can pretty easily do commentary over them (or if you can’t you can even comment on your train of thought, something which I admire a lot of Youtubers for, like Northernlion, who is someone who basically everyone should aim to emulate)

>>26407793
Ok, that's a good source!
Speaking about "commenting on train of thought", I thought viewers found it boring? I keep seeing people in trash and wvt talk about needing skits and topics and life stories. Is that too much? Could I get away with just narrating the process?

Give me your hot opinion, murrican /asp/!
When monetizing your twitch, did you give amazon your SSN, or did you opt to get an EIN for the extra degree (even if slight) of separation?

>>26406983
I appreciate taking the time to really give it a look! Audio and BGM are definitely things I already had note of to fix.
>This is gonna sound nuts but when scripting videos, it's better to half explain a concept and move on while the listener is still trying to digest what you just said, lol.
I do notice I have a habit of rambling a lot, I'll keep that in mind. Probably would be in my best interest to take another look at the script I'm working on now, because that's already shaping up to run into the same issue. Would you believe me if I said even that I originally intended that video to be even longer?
>I would transition from image to image more quickly, and add in more B-roll video footage where possible.
Also noted. I think I was afraid of getting dinged for copyright using actual footage of the anime, but that's probably unfounded.
Here's to the next one one, then!

>>26408099
Having a balance between the two is ideal.

>>26408099
You have to generally play up things a bit, but those sorts of things are for games that don’t need much thought or are automatic to play. Life stories and skits and topics are all well and good, but they tend to fall flat without more experience. Narrating their actions is what a lot of popular youtubers do anyway, as well as humorous asides, but when they started they needed to start somewhere too.

You’ll get to the point where you’ll be able to tell life stories and skits. The important thing is, not being quiet; as long as you’re talking people will listen.

>>26406345
Twitch doesn't give you that information directly. If you're adventurous and really against SE/SL, look into building it with LioranBoard 2 or Streamer.Bot. A lot more customizability there but also a lot more work to setup. Bunch of (hard-to-follow) YouTube tutorials out there but you can join their Discord communities too if you need help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSif17b3L7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7EeDVBKTEs

>>26408284
Being afraid of using anime footage is definitely a valid concern. Two points: only truly evil companies like Disney and Toei content strike footage of their IP. Everyone else content IDs, which is much more fair. Three content strikes and your channel is deleted. You can get an infinite amount of content IDs and nothing happens, your ad money just gets yoinked. You're not even monetized so that doesn't matter at this phase.

When I meant B-roll, I mean stuff other than clips of the yu-gi-oh anime. You can get creative, just find a shitty video of some nerds playing TCG at a table and yoink it. Footage of packs being opened, stuff like that. B-roll only has to be tangentially related to whatever you're talking about. The point is to provide some fresh new images for your viewer to process while they're listening to your voice. The general rule of thumb is to swap out images/videos every 5 seconds, 10 seconds at the absolute maximum.

If you must use static images, check out newworldreview, he's a one trick pony that just does the dutch angle slow pan for literally all of his static images, but it works.

Video making is complex but rewarding, and it takes time to learn what works and what doesn't. General rule of thumb, imagine your average viewer as a drooling imbecile that will get bored at the first opportunity and click off to look for some porn or something. KEEP THEM OCCUPIED.

I wish asp was like this more often
Real advice, real conversation

>>26409143
its a cycle usually but its nice to see it when its less schizo

so both of the eyes are synthesized and seem to work, but when i go into the scene building area only the circled eye moves, help?

Ain can draw too?
What a cute mash

I just bought my microphone :D

>>26411127
That wasn't my drawing anon! I skeb'd it of her. Here's the artist https://skeb.jp/@koso0923

>>26411479
Oh I see. Very cute style.

>>26409143
Maybe If you joined the discord you would find it happens all the time

>>26409143
most of the real nuts and bolts advice is on the discord since it can be tailored to individuals and point people to experts
Unless you're a babi, then good luck.

>>26406210
i wanna highlight the tik tok part is way easier at first than youtube. it's a lot less of a hassle trying to make content for and overall, just really easy. I did one wiggle on it and instantly got 30 followers out of the gate.

>>26405179
Twitch is the reward for building a following, it's not what builds a following

I joined the discord by accident, sorry

I also joined the discord by accident but I am not sorry.

I didn't join the discord yet, sorry

I'm not sorry yet, discord

stiff wip

Sorry eh, Discord

>>26406648
>>26407113
Thanks, I will check Stream elements out. I guess what I was getting at is that I'm not really opposed to using any of these, but I want to understand how the data gets from twitch to your source in OBS. In theory I could write a local twitch notification daemon to just show graphics and play sounds whenever some event happens.

I don't selfpost that often but it's my first karaoke to celebrate my first month of streaming.
Don't be shy, it's going to be scuffed, starting in 10 minutes.
Also I can't get this leapmotion I borrowed to work properly. Shame.
https://www.twitch.tv/josephine_mukuro

>>26414398
Lower eyelashes aren't reading well to me, they look like her eyes are closed

>>26416181
Oh no no no no no

>>26402937
konrad is babi. he has the babi mentality

Things are getting strange in my chat. I think I've accidentally started providing some kind of twisted BFE. I never thought I'd end up in this position but I'm enjoying it

>>26417887
Link. Now

Gonna stream an ancient board game today.
https://www.twitch.tv/freeofme

>>26402227
Badaboom!

>>26416848
Oh yeah!

For someone who's looking to hire someone for live2d rigging, what exactly is a good price? Like how do I know i won't get ripped off, or if i could get it a lot cheaper elsewhere? Asking because i was considering commissioning for 400 dollars

>>26420121
rigging is infinitely cheaper than art and you should remember that

>>26420395
I'd call this an exaggeration if it wasn't just flat out wrong. Typically they're similarly priced.

>>26403186
It's been like that for ages now, this isn't even a new thing a d happened long before tiktoks or YouTube shorts. The most popular and easy to spread content is always short form. Every clip, meme, joke, whatever. Most streamers in general grew from one or multiple smaller clips, not some 25 minute video compilation. What new viewer is watching that when they don't even know who you are.

>>26403711
Honestly i don't see many indies do clips, hell most of them don't have vod channels on YouTube

if an /asp/ie became a corpo, would you reveal their past life?

Is it a mistake to not have any fantasy elements to your design? Like succubus, catgirl, robot etc.

>>26421749
Like Lumi?

>>26399527
>>26399557

>I think the biggest mistake new Vtubers make is making a model that appeals to themselves and ONLY themselves. If you're aiming to grow, you should make sure your model appeals to a sizeable group of people, the more specific the better.

I don't think many people do this in all honesty and it rarely matters unless you're trying too hard to go against the grain and be "different". This is a massive overstatement in my opinion.

Most people aren't thinking "How can I make this appeal to a bunch of people or my specific target audience" when they make a Vtuber outside of coomerbait and maybe GFE/BFE but even then those people tend to go for what they consider attractive in that type of character as well. Ultimately most people are creating what they like or even using old OCs. The thing is, most weebs and anime fans tend to enjoy the same things as far as design/character tropes, looks, etc. so you'd be hard pressed to design a Vtuber that doesn't appeal to a large audience anyway unless you're intentionally making them unappealing or even hard to look at.

I can tell you right now as someone that's worked with several people on their designs, most boil down to "Here are some things that I like (hobbies, themes, interests, etc), here are some references in he form of clothing I like, and here are some references to existing characters (including things like hair, facial structure, visual personality, build, etc) and they the design is based around that. That way it's personal to you while still appealing to the general audience of anime fans and weebs since they all like the same shit to begin with.

sorry if i repeat myself a lot here, this is the first post im making after wakingup

>>26421762
It's a mistake to make your design boring.
As long as you know what you're doing, shouldn't be a problem.
You're gonna miss out on themed jokes though.

>>26421762
no #teamnormal

>>26421850
i'd imagine they're only talking about holo/niji

>>26421109
>Honestly i don't see many indies do clips
That's why most indies don't grow outside of their networking circles.

>>26421762
No, make what you like. Your content matters more than being a demon or a cat or whatever.

i think i have a good voice when i speak to myself but when i use a microphone its like its picking up a completely different person

>>26421749
there's an aspie who went corp in this very thread and no one cared. besides who is even close to getting picked up for corpo?

>>26422538
>besides who is even close to getting picked up for corpo?
the one who did got picked up despite having like 10ccv

>>26422539
Your voice sounds different to you than other people, you could try to practice with a mic setting that lets you hear your voice at the same time as it's playing and practice like that

>>26422846
>despite having like 10ccv
he had 120CCV when he got picked up you fucking retard

Have you guys experienced a significant change in personality, at least, your streaming personality, from when you started streaming? Just wondering if its possible for me to change myself into the person I want to be or if im stuck into being the same ol boring person I've always been

>>26423171
nta but you're thinking about the wrong person

>>26422846
This sounds like Finana cope to be honest. There are some cases like Lumi where the chuuba is just exceptionally skilled but lacks the ability to market themselves, but that's so ridiculously rare that even talking about it or trying to use it as counterpoint to anything is disingenuous because those people tend to have tons of experience in one thing or another as well as good streaming skills but simply lack advertising. Trying to use them as examples just fucks with peoples expectations and turns into Finana "SHE WAS A NOBODY, I CAN DO IT TOO!" cope because they ignore everything surrounded their success, skills, or talents.

>>26423216
Most people don't change in a vacuum, their personality is formed by experiences and their social environment. If you're just sitting there by yourself and doing nothing while hoping top better yourself it likely wont happen.

>>26423216
Yep I def got more confident with time, it was easier for me to bring out my more extroverted side and I was comfier

I've been a people pleaser my entire life and I'm used to being whatever someone else needs me to be. it's difficult to be myself because I have never been that person before

>>26423521
bro...

>>26423171
i don't know who you're talking about but i'm talking about kaneko lumi
>>26423244
i get what you're saying but its not as if mira did anything special outside of her streams like she didn't really network or anything

I keep getting door knocks, phone ringing, and shouts towards me and I gotta keep pausing my streams, doing small tasks, or ending. It really deflates me.

>>26423959
stream late late at night

>>26423959
Tell them you're jerking off and to not disturb

>>26423216
I've felt a bit more confident with trying new things.
Even bought a cheap tablet to start drawing.

>>26423959
Now imagine living next to a river and by 6pm all you hear is angry frogs and loud as fuck insects all the way up to like 5am. Now imagine you work 10pm-6am shift. Retarded background noise from nature and my work schedule is literally the reason why I haven't tried becoming a vtubbber or streaming in general in the last year. Noise gates don't do jack shit against nature.

>>26423216
Yeah, I feel like a living god now

>>26423896
Yes, and Lumi's skill level was far, far above quite literally /asp/ie that's come through here. I don't mean that as an insult or to overhype her, just that from Day 1 of her stream it was obvious that she was a great singer, well spoken, a good story teller, etc. She was exceptionally skilled as far as a more "traditional" styled EN vtuber goes in those regards and it's not exactly fair to use her as a comparison. Not a single /asp/ie past or present that I'm aware of comes remotely close to that aside from maybe Lex, and his skill lies moreso in his voice and ability to keep a calm, warm, and welcoming streaming environment.

>>26422846
CCV doesnt matter for mini corpos as much as raw talent or having a certain skillset does. picking someone with high CCV is pointless since theyll just lose it

I wanna make my chat prettier and make nicer layouts, I also have to draw and make nice looking alarms for subs raids and follows, I would like to make more funny chat point stuff as well and have an animated hand and layout for art streams. Also a good bg and mic for karaoke stream and making a good place for cooking streams.

My dream is to get into hololive en

>>26425339
you heavily overestimate her

>>26425339
Look, either I have to hope I already have the skills, or that I have the capacity, otherwise my only alternative is coming back in 10 years.
t. Not that anon, but I also want to believe in the zero to hero narrative

>>26425747
Me too, but Im afraid of the whole "Don't meet your heroes" thing, they might not be the person that they appear to be on stream.

>>26425844
NTA but my dream isn't to get in just to meet the girls. I love the Hololive model, I want to finally live out my dream of dancing before an audience like a real idol and to have my audience truly appreciate my abstinence from the real world. I feel like that's only a debuff in the indie scene.

>>26425844
I don't wanna get into hololive en to meet the girls I want to have a company to make better and more entertaining content, using the vtuber genre in it's full potential

>>26426051
Same. Wish I didnt suck so much

>>26425339
Who the fuck is Lex?

>>26425747
>>26425844
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>>26426109
i want to get in so i can absorb all the inner drama and drop the biggest rrat of all time

>>26425339
I would say Cain, Bloom and Kenji do as all around talents and entertainers but I'm going to assume you'll say that they're untalented because they aren't partnered or didn't pass an audition

>>26426199
Lawyer chuuba that has a sex voice. Originated in /asp/ then took of once the fujos found him (and because his model mama is a famous yaoi artist and reposted him lots)

>>26426209
Be sure to drop a hint if you get in so we can support you rrat peddler!

>>26425843
The "zero to hero" narrative for most chuubas is "I've got a lot of unfocused creativity as well as above average social experience or social intellect and quite possibly a skill that would've otherwise not helped me garner attention. Now I will use this to be a streamer." No one literally started with literally nothing which is what I see a lot of /asp/ies have. Notice how the ones able to carry on a conversation with an audience and provide decent commentary have people here acting as if they're some kind of deity because all they're used to seeing are "uhmm uh so minecraft haha whoa, he almost got me!". I don't want to "shut you down" or whatever, but it's better to have realistic expectations instead of just hoping you'll suddenly hit it big for being an underdog.

>>26426199
https://www.twitch.tv/lexpartevt
Started around the time of gen 2

>streaming to 2-3 viewers
>get a massive 100+ person raid out of nowhere.
>highest viewer max I have ever had is 6, never been raided before
> manage to keep over 50 of them for at least an hour and end the stream with maybe 40
>7 follows
Holy shit that was terrifying. Feeling such a rush right now. Think I know what game I am going to stream a lot of for the foreseeable future.

>>26426400
congrats but who

>>26425339
lumis only real skills involve hiring schizos to doxx and demoralize the competition

I'm gonna play dead space, attempting impossible difficulty level 1 armor run https://www.twitch.tv/auxiliagenome

>>26426444
Freeofme
Been posting here and streaming every single day for a few weeks now.

>>26426533
who the fuck raided into a literally who playing go
I mean no offense you're cute and have a nice voice but

>>26426384
High value post. Saved.

>>26424418
Embrace nature.

>>26426599
I smell jealousyyy

>>26426400
Congrats, good job.

>>26426238
>I'm going to assume you'll say that they're untalented because they aren't partnered or didn't pass an audition

No, on the contrary. I don't like Cain's content personally but I've said before in /wvt/ that out of most of the /here/ chuubas I think he's got the most potential to either just get big on his own or go corpo and have a sizeable audience, his problem is just his game choice and interests being absolute garbage for the most part since he almost exclusively plays MH games so he . I got the impression he really doesn't care though, so it's just a case of him doing this for fun but I think he could be a lot bigger if he tried to.

Bloom I'd say is a weird case. He's got the social skills and commentary down perfect because he seems like a pretty well rounded adult, but as someone who watches him regularly I don't think he's got any mainstream appeal whatsoever. He plays old grandpa games, talks about old grandpa games, sings old grandpa music. He's neat and has an interesting gimmick but it's almost as if he's too "rustic" for his own good. He's not untalented by any means though. He's a talented singer but his style of singing isn't popular at all so it's almost as if it doesn't even matter. I'm sure he knows all this shit though which is why I don't feel bad saying it

Kenji is pretty good, that's all I've really got to say there. He doesn't really stand out so I don't have too much of an opinion but what I saw from him wasn't bad I just don't think he's what I want to watch is all.

All three of them are good but out of the three I'd say Cain has the most potential except he doesn't really seem to care and just wants to chill and play games.

>>26426533
I have only seen your streams a few times but I'm really happy for you anon!

>>26426599
Stop with the jealousy, it's actually sad.

>>26426384
I hope me actually having a life is enough social experience for this..

>>26426599
Another go person. Definitely not from /here/. Go i think is in the relatively unique position as a game to have relatively few streamers compared to viewers. Even before I was raided I was doing better than an average stream.
Im relatively good at go despite not playing in many years. But I suspect even a complete noob to go could get at least a small handful of viewers trying to "teach" them if you are up for getting into it.
I suspect there are other games that might have a similar situation going on, with very dedicated audiences to a particular game without having a lot of streamers.

>>26426906
It's not jealousy, just baffling for such a debuff game
didn't know go had such a robust community on twitch

>>26426599
you do realize raiding 2 views with a large amount of viewers and recording their reactions is a form of content right?

>>26426916
Puts you above a lot of people in general. Social intelligence is one of the biggest thing most people who try to get into Vtubing an fail lack. Obviously the brand building, networking, entertainment skills and other stuff matter but without just that basic requirement all the other stuff doesn't help much since you need all that to properly network and entertain anyway.

>>26426980
>didn't know go had such a robust community on twitch
in all honesty it doesn't, im not the slime dude but i checked out of curiosity and that's basically the biggest Go streamer on the platform. There's maybe a few hundred viewers max.

>>26427003
heh, that's good to hear. Although I can't think of a single aspie outside of the ochra feline who would sound like an outright autist

>>26426599
voice is literally all that matters

>>26426995
this is some immense cope

>>26427104
It's not that all aspies sound autistic, a lot are just lacking any real substance or semblance of a personality because they've never had a reason to have one due to their lifestyle. I'm sure some will develop over time but I imagine most people in that position (not just aspies) will give up long before that's able to happen.

I wanna come back for hiatus but I'm not sure how many streams are enough to start asking for collabs with moots on twitter

>>26427082
I think the interesting thing about the go community on twitch is that their audience will pretty much only watch go players, and it is pretty common for there to not be any big people on sometimes so you have a pretty good chance of randoms walking into your stream when the only big streamer ends the stream or if its only literally whos streaming.

>>26427118
>voice is all that matters
>he got raided because of the game he's playing
Apparently something else mattered

>>26427187
My personality is batshit insane but in a clown way y'know

>>26427082
yeah theres a lot of fringe but dedicated communities. i used to follow bleach brave souls on youtube closely and during hype banners some of these guys with 20k subs on youtube can hit 1k ccv streaming on youtube.

>>26426599
https://voca.ro/1iaqTJacAGzS

>>26427289
Sonic...

>>26427206
small communities are DESPERATE for content creators and will eat up any joe blow that puts in a modicum of effort. the issue is that you often get trapped within the niche but honestly streaming to 200 people playing GO forever might be better than trying to sing and play generic games to 5 dudes forever and thinking a corpo will pick you up

>>26426842
Thanks! Honestly my goal has always just been to have just enough of an audience to be able to have at least a somewhat active chat on most days. Ive been slowly getting closer and closer to that goal by streaming every day and then suddenly this raid is just completely overwhelming.

>>26427469
I genuinely like go, so I wouldn't mind doing a stream of go once or twice a week. Even if none of the audience transfers to other games (which I doubt is 100% true) that is perfectly fine.

>>26426833
this was actually a nice writeup i'm so used to anons just being vitriolic to anyone without numbers

>>26425339
>>26426238
How did they promote themselves here?

>>26428168
>Mira
selfposted a few times both giving and asking for advice
>Lex
posted design
>Kenji
didn't post here
>Cain
didn't post here
however, all four of them were in the original /asp/cord for varying amounts of time; the only one mentioned in those two posts that wasn't in that server is Bloom who pretty much completely started from here from the concept phase to his first streams and stayed for a long time to give vocal advice to anons

>No anprim chuuba

>>26428563
i think the closest we'd have to that is atropa everwood?

>>26429688
Guns bad, BIG mistake
Right wing government bad, BIG mistake
Fashion bad, BIG mistake
Hrt bad, BIG mistake

is it dumb to ask for advice here as a startup? i mostly interact on twitter bc that's the big social media for vtubers and yeah i feel like you'd get a lot of flak for hanging out on 4chan ;-;

>>26430382
you can ask here or on the discord either one works

>>26430382
Nyanners literally made content explicitly for 4chan pedophiles that everybody knows about and the only thing that killed her career was leaking that she had a boyfriend

>>26417562
What does this even mean?

>>26430465
oh i just mean like, it feels a bit like i'll get in trouble on twitter and stuff if i post on here and im a bit scared haha