/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>80,943: Salome (Nijisanji)
>43,424: Pekora (Hololive)
>43,036: Gura (Hololive)
>28,927: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,313: Iroha (Hololive)
>16,076: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,103: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>14,856: Flare (Hololive)
>14,823: Aiba Uiha (Nijisanji)
>12,601: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,403: Vox (Nijisanji)
>11,069: Subaru (Hololive)
>10,406: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,327: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,191: Reid (Neo Porte)
>10,135: Hal (Neo Porte)

A reminder that using "livers" to refer to vtubers is absolutely retarded.

>>26326552
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349 - 3D debut
10) Salome (Nijisanji) - 71,690 - English study
11) Salome (Nijisanji) - 78,179 - Resident Evil 7
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 88,559 - Resident Evil 7
13) Chloe (Hololive) - 137,594 - 3D debut
14) Salome (Nijisanji) - 99,770 - Resident Evil 7
15) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,188 - Rust
16) Koyori (Hololive) - 105,030 - 3D debut
17) Salome (Nijisanji) - 80,943 - Disaster Report 2

>PER COMPANY
11x: Nijisanji
6x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
10x: Salome
1x: Chloe, Haachama, Iroha, Koyori, Kuzuha, Mio, Watame

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
109x: Hololive
50x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
14x: Salome
12x: Kuzuha, Miko
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Ange, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Koyori, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>26326559
Using livers mean that you're a nijifan there is no other explaination.

>>26326628
so... a retard?

Honest question, how are Hololive and Nijisanji yabs compared to each other? Which side has more serious yabs?

Kobo is going to say the N word and incline even more.

>>26326712
Hololive have 3 company ending yabs
Nijisanji have numerus small yabs concerning their livers

>>26326689
Yes

>>26326662
What a great liver Subaru is!!!!

>>26326487
Vstats article on the state of the vtuber industry.
https://note.com/vstats/n/nb9039fdf6e55
>>26162657
>>26162728
>>26162789
>>26162834

>>26326774
Company ending but there is no end to the company?

>>26326801
>EX rank Luck
You can thank watamage and Yagoo for that

>>26325061
Will we ever get a san andreas or vice city stream? I'm tired of gtav

A reminder that Only HoloJP matter so doomposting about HoloEN isn't warrented.
They're a side branch treat it like it.

>>26326712
By sheer number, Nijisanji.
In terms of "this is capable of outright tanking the company" level yabs, Cover has had 3. >>26326774
>TAIWAN
>COCO graduation
>Permissions Arc
Plus a major yab of Rushia graduation (but not compan- ending level due to circumstances)

>>26326487
>>26255405 :: median of peak CCV, June 1 to 15, per branch
>>26223770 :: true average CCV

>>26326928
do you know what this was about? >>26270657

>>26326928
Cover has the devil own luck a their side.
I predict that holoearth will also be a success.

>>26326559
Annoying orange is a vtuber

>>26326712
Holocaust and Taiwan are way worse than all Niji's yabs.
>>26326928
Coco's graduation is not really a yab.

>>26327035
Why devil's luck and not Watamage's luck?

>>26327159
I always lump Coco's graduation with Taiwan Yab
So when I say 3, it's
>Permission arc
>Taiwan arc
>Rushia arc

>>26327118
Yeah yeah >>26309813

>>26327032
Right, so Nijisanji Resistance is what this should be referring to if I'm NOT fucking up my timeline.
Unfortunately startups generally have HORRID working conditions if you're trying to scrape by by the skin of your teeth etc.
So members of Nijisanji formed a psuedo union to collect and direct the complaints at management until they got their shit together, which they eventually did and Nijisanji Resistance eventually became defunct as it ran out of stuff to complain about (yes, Aqua based Hololive Resistance off of this, she is friends with Shiina after all)

Nobody remembers Hitomi...

How many are people expecting for Salome's stream today? 150k? Since she's no longer debuffing herself by streaming at 23:00 or midnight but rather streaming in prime time, she'll be able to attract 3-4 times the number of supertourists she usually gets.

>>26326801
They are the choosen ones! Corpo Ending Yabs are just trial for them to grow stronger

>>26327257
That was before Cover got big
So that kind of Yab is kinda expected from small startup

https://youtu.be/yq4SMZnIQro
Predictions?

>>26327343
This won't beat salome btw
>t.holofag

>>26327359
17k

>>26327270
she hasn't hit 100k since she hit 1m subs... probably 90-100k

>>26327343
What time is this?

>>26327377
you feelin lonely today or something, just go jack off

>>26326928
>>26327194
No. Their very first yab and among top 3 was this >>26327257
>>26327334
Heck no. This shit was big! Literally the very first yab in vtuber history and it happened right on the week when cover receiving their first investment

>>26327421
Blindchama...

>>26327359
Fuck I copied the wrong link. https://youtu.be/gGXHfIRzz1A
Predictions?

>>26327425
I'm just stating facts anon
And no, I'm not racist against dark elves

>>26327377

>>26327441
Oop, yea you're right, I also agree that Coco graduation should be bundled with the whole Taiwan thing since it was really one ongoing saga.
Hitomi Chris shit normally WOULD be company ending. The fact that it somehow ended up pushing Fubuki to the forefront really set the stage for the rest of Hololive huh, what kind of luck is that?

>>26327415
All of those were 23:00 or 0:00 start times though. Today is an 18:00 stream on a Saturday, way easier for her casual audience to watch than normal.

>>26327441
it's not big if no one cared then and no one barely remembers it now.

Incoming debuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFvoQCmCGck

>>26327516

Check the Chadcast's chatter percentage.
Mori is way lower then I thought.

>>26327456
isn't this the seeds girl that gets shipped with yashiro or something
anyways it'll probably be similar to their relay numbers i guess

>>26327542
Because cover buried it six feet deep under the ground. Also it involved minor so, nobody really wants to talked about that hot potato

SALOME IS OUT OF THE RUNNING.
IT"S A PREMIERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Qn0_KN-do

>>26327343
>this stream will absolutely mog the shit out of Gura's birthday stream and everybody's gonna laugh at her again
Actually feels bad, ngl. I probably should avoid /vt/ and just enjoy the streams.

>>26327649
Kek have they given up on ever treating this woman as a streamer?

>>26327649
so it really was all pre recorded streams..

>>26327681
you should probably tell your pals to stop shitting on jp's vods and start shitting on nijis if you want better treatment

>>26327649
Fuck, I'm gonna eat my words then>>26327377

>>26326712
Most of Hololives yabs are directly caused by Nijiniggers stirring shit up. The Holocaust was because Nijifaggots reported Mio to Capcom.

>>26327743
I wish I had pals...

>>26326552
Wait, even with an unarchived karaoke celebrating a milestone Gura ended up not only below Salome but also the rabbit?
Did the rabbit at least do something special in the blocks game for that?

>>26327610
To be fair everyone is pretty close to 50% except the top 2. It's more interesting that IRyS is only at #3

>>26327649
but why is she doing it like this? is it not a normal game stream?

>>26327813
What did you expect? Gura seems to be stuck between 20k floor and 40k ceiling, and no amount of buff content will help her get over it.

>>26327649
>Premiere
And the rrats gain even more steam. This girl has felt sus since day one. My lord.

>>26327787
Don't worry, Flare's B-day live is tomorrow. Salome will be streaming at 23:00 and will probably beat Flare's B-day live.

>>26327855
They accidentally set it up to be a premiere instead of just booking the slot. Means all her streams except the ones where she interacts with chat have been prerecorded.

>>26327725
>>26327732
She has other VA jobs in the day purisu andastando, no time to spend it all on min-wage nijiliver role

Someone post that image of the rrats are winning

Is it truly over for Salome's sub growth?

>>26328000

>>26327948
T-the rrats are getting stronger each passing days

>>26327649
So do we treat all of Salomes streams as Premieres now that we know the truth and strike them from the record? It's the only fair thing to do.

>>26328026
thank you anon

>>26327948
>>26327916
I CAN FEEL IT GROWING STRONGER@

>>26328000
I can't stop drinking it!!!

>>26327948
AHHHH
THE RRATS
THEY'RE GROWING STRONGER AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>26327649
FAKE. BOTTED. ARTIFICIAL HYPE. PRERECORDED STREAMS.

Fire Riku, what a fucking disgrace. A stain on the Vtuber industry.

>>26328078
Do spics really give a fuck if the rats are well treated? The fuck does "se cria en libertad" even supposed to mean? The rats willingly give up their milk because they want to?

Sorry, looks like I misfired my curse

>>26328235
the thing straight up says they give them swiss cheese and they milk them manually, i think they're just fucking around

I don't get it, why do you guys assume her previous streams were potentially prerecorded just because she decided to do a premiere today?

>>26328405
can't stop the EL RRATTS

>>26328405
>1 hour
>barely any chat interaction
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>26328405
Can you give a timestamp during one of her game streams where she directly names and interacts with someone from chat or even a super chat?

>>26327649
>took her 3 takes to do this playthrough.
sounds Kino to me, she really is a return of the original vtuber format.

https://twitter.com/1000000lome/status/1538018751060516865

>>26328405
We need something to cope with anon

https://youtu.be/w8lha-vph0k?t=3398
Can someone who speaks nip translate this, I think she stated why this stream would be a premiere

>>26328405
Limited to 1 hour
No chat interaction

There was already strong suspicion her stuff was prerecorded before, this only confirms what was already suspected.

>>26328405
Her streams being pre-recorded has been a rrat since the beginning when she would always hard stop after 1 hour. It's not a new rrat. This just adds fuel to that fire.

>>26328005
Kazuha fan doesn't want her to pass him

The numbers will be interesting to see when people are actually aware they're watching a prerecorded video and not a live stream

>>26328491
if someone here actually watches her, there's no way that we're gonna be surprised that her stream today would be premiere right?

>>26328005
Isn't 10k a day great?

>>26328473
I hate this cunt so much. She is so fake.

>>26328491
nothing
she just said it'll be fun

>>26300000
>>26299999
tst

>>26328565
Holox peak with the 3d pre recorded, people actually like those more

>>26327649
>Salami Hitman
>but it's in 3 hours
Fuck me guess it's VOD time. Nips have it good.

>>26328458
There's literally a chatting stream anon...

https://youtu.be/mNq4d4vpe0I
This isn’t really relevant to anything, but I just noticed that Gura’s WWE vod has almost 1k comments. That’s just an absolute fuck ton of engagement

>Ame wont even break 5k
cant even beat millie kek

>>26329166
>will be mogged by indog kid instead

>>26329119
A lot of comments are congratulating Gura with 4 m subs. It's just buffed due to being the last archived stream close to her milestone.

>>26329119
Huh. That's way more than the first one which had like 650, despite a way chunkier VOD.

https://twitter.com/hololive_event/status/1538023710233284609?s=20&t=YpxSKtKk9H21EGpdy5LlFA
Did anyone manage to get the numbers for how many there were?

>>26329166
It's literally been 15 minutes. Why do you people even post this shit?

>>26329327
It's ame, anon
She can't do shit without la creatividad mode

>>26329276
It's a lot more fun and prepared, just not as long as the first stream so it has a disadvantage in views.

>>26328458
https://youtu.be/8sOOAMp4lwI?t=2988
She usually pauses the game and asks chat for help, this is one off the top of my head since someone also made art of this moment.

>>26329371
Regardless, she does not peak within the first 15 minutes. No EN does.

Throughout her 3 months career, she only have two vid below 100k views and it's her maro streams, her weakest content. Insane for an ID, or even for hololive perhaps?

>>26329398
That's completely fakeable content.
>hey guys what do I do here
>knows what to do
>waits for people to inevitably post something that only has one correct answer
>oh thanks

>>26329426
She's the top of ID now, but it's only mid JP tier at best

>>26327941
My dark elve lewds...

>>26329493
wrong, she's top tier JP, show me an example of a mid tier JP

>>26329493
CCV wise i agree, but isnt her VOD views kinda insane?

>>26328473

>>26329493
She's Botan tier. That puts Kobo in the top 25% of JPs.

>>26329523
Gen 5? almost all of them are mid tier

>>26329539
I request sauce anon

>>26329535
>>26329575
compare her to Subaru's VOD views

>>26329119
nip generally do less commenting

>>26329586
It's Isekai Ojiisan

>>26329605
Reddit Duck's VODs are weak as fuck for somebody with CCV as high as her. Pekora, Miko, and Gura are all much much stronger in that category.

She's really the ID gura even her fanbase have the same cope.

>>26329605
jesus i thought she was one of the top holo?

>>26329585
Kobo is top 10 in Hololive. She's a long way behind the S+ tier of Pekora, Miko, Marine and Subaru but that doesn't make her "mid tier", she's well above average.

>>26329586
Isekai Ojisan

>>26329674
She is

>>26329585
not in VOD views

>>26329680
Uncle DIO soon

>>26329475
>knows what to do
If she knows what to do the streams will be shorter. She sucks at this game. During 1 stream she was running around in circles because she didn't know what to do.

>>26329698
Then why is her VOD views so low? Japs are weird

>>26329679
in VOD views, she's top 5, I can only think of Pekora/Gura/Marine/Miko in front of her, unless you can think of anyone else?

>>26329767
>VODcope
I have nothing against Kobo but please don't sink to the chumbuds level.

>>26329794
the original anon was talking about VOD views, that's the topic of discussion

>>26329760
I think that's because most of her viewers are looking to have an interaction with her, so they're less likely to watch VOD
Yes, she's very enjoyable to interact with

>>26329426
It’s insane for an ID but at this point it’s hard to really treat her as your traditional ID. It’s like if you made a HoloID Salome that had at least enough knowledge of Hololive/vtubers. But because it’s just an absurd level of tourism, it’s difficult to compare her to someone like Moona because it’s always been an uphill battle for IDs. But yes, her VODs are great

>>26329535
>>26329605
It’s been talked about here enough, but after settling in more she’s comfortably a top 5 Holo now in VODs. There’s no disputing it anymore. Initially it was a matter of whether it was just tourists who will leave or if it was PvZ, but she’s getting insane views on multiple forms of content. It doesn’t matter if it’s free talk, horror games, pvz, even the earlier valorant streams; She’s gotten high engagement and she has by FAR the most unique chatters in Hololive right now.

>>26329475
Ok, when she cleared RE7 she read a bunch of superchats. If you want a timestamp then here's one directly. https://youtu.be/jmWtLA8-pLM?t=3720 and the superchats sent is here https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/archive/superchat/jmWtLA8-pLM.html

>>26329870
>Stream only during the finale where you're expected to read a lots of supas
ez pz

>>26329870
>Write down superchat and have Salome read it during recording
>Have a staff member send it at the right moment during the "stream"
Childs play

>>26329674
Subaru has 33k CCV right at this very moment anon. She's definitely at the top of Hololive.

>>26329930
Except she's read supers before on previous streams, I just outlined one stream of it.
>>26329972
Then she must have a lot of staff members as she read a number of superchats, I just linked this timestamp in particular because it was posted before. >>26146073

Kobo mogging both EN and JP.

>>26326902
They collectively have a billion views between them which is like a 1/5 the total views of JP with a smaller and younger branch.

>>26330059
Of course she have a lots of staff attending her
She's riku golden ticket to retirement

>>26329794
lol retard

>>26329854
and unlike Salome, she actually helped incline the rest of ID

>>26329760
400k+ views for a long ass JRPG like Tales of Abyss is not low.

>>26330132
Except, she makes less money than Vox.
Popularity? Sure, but Vox has most likely sold more merch to his rabid chink fanbase than Salome has to her turbocasual fanbase.
Regardless I don't buy the pre-recorded argument.

>>26330200
5 hr stream

>>26329679
kaela grind finally paid off

>>26330214
bro, your IPO?

>>26329760
Also consider that the VODs in the screencap aren't exactly good for racking up VOD views. Her Tales of the Abyss streams and Monster Rancher / Monster Farm collabo with Lamy have gotten decent VOD views, just not enough to compete with the VOD monsters in Holo. Viewer Interaction Sausage Legends is middling in popularity and her Molly Online collabo with Luna is shilling a crane game which isn't gonna be that good of a VOD either. Her eating foreign snacks I thought would do better but it is also niche content, her zatsudans are mostly only gonna be watched by ahijos except when they get clipped or something and then there's >watchalongs. She's not great in the VOD department but her VODs aren't that bad either.

>>26330251
The IPO that investors are locked into for 6 months and any number of yabs can happen between now and then? Oh boy do I wanna be a part of that!

>>26330243
Yes, it's not low. It's more than this 5 hour Kobo VOD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9pwxePu7Hs

>>26328405
Her streaming style fit perfectly for it. Even if it was prerecorded I’m sure no one can tell

>>26327118
Technically, no.
Because all the moving parts are direct live action cutouts or post animation, there is no live rendering of motion through an avatar.

>>26327813
Yes
She went on an adventure. It was quite kino since she’s literally go through everything new in the update in one stream
At the same time Flare failed to find the ancient city but make friend with some Allays instead

don't fall for his tricks. that's the reddit duck schizo

>>26327173
Watamage is a monkey paw.

>>26327649
What does this mean actually? Can’t you accidentally set a stream as premier? Is it a video only thing?

It's interesting when you sort by channel views, the minnow of HoloX, Lui is actually well ahead of Irys and the Council. The benefit of being a consistent streamer. The only HoloX who Council beats on views is Iroha. Sana is obviously so far behind that she might as well not exist.

It goes to show that while Council getting their subs culled early is part of the picture, it's not all of it. Even if that explains their sub growth they're still struggling in terms of getting views. And part of that is that barely any of them have a reasonable streaming schedule.

https://youtu.be/big281X7qKU
Moona's unarchived karaoke. It's gonna be a strong day for HoloID

Is Kobo gonna beat Gura's second place record to 1M? Or is it too late already?

>>26330543
I honestly quit following EN schedule for months already
They just stream at a whim on random time

>>26330622
Gura got to 1m in just over a month.

I missed it but it seems sefyna ex kr got her own merch announced yesterday?
https://nijisanji.booth.pm/items/3934356

>>26330622
It's over but Kobo can comfortably take 3rd, which is insanely unbelievable

>>26329679
Some people here doesn't like the fact that an ID is placed above the superior JP and EN.

I was about to type "the rrats are in full force right now", but the thread is very slow, and there are a lot more people talking about Kobo. I guess they all will come out later during the premiere.

>>26329679
Aqua and Suisei are low tier holos according to this table.

>>26330714
Nice
>>26330737
This is true

ID3 vs Council. Shows the insanity of Kobo at the moment. Ranked by views over the past 30 days, Kobo has over twice as many views as second placed Fauna and TRIPLE the channel views as third placed Kronii. Zeta and Kaela are about where you'd expect ID to be normally but calling Kobo the ID Gura would not be an exaggeration of her explosive growth.

if you're gonna just screenshot holostats while doing subpar commentary, at least use dark mode you fucking animal

>>26330543
>Just view numbers
Is this really even interesting? People stream they get views. They have songs? They get views. They have shorts? They get views. You're not going to point at someone that streams 1/4th as much as Koyori and call them garbage for not having as many views as her.

>>26327343
what the fuck is this lineup
did she just pick out of a hat?

>>26330514
Premere's are always prerecorded. You can make prerecorded content into a stream without premiering it, but this essentially proves that Salome is a cheater who uses prerecorded streams

>>26330909
it's what they get fucking paid for

>>26329679
Not going to timeloop this garbage again. Just neck yourself.

>>26329679
>Gawr Gura
>Num of streams: 7
>5th in Hours watched, way ahead of holos with more than twice the streams
But I'm told Gooba is irrelevant and not popular anymore?

>>26330909
Yes we are, total views are a much more important statistic than Peak CCV in the real world.

>>26330955
So is viewer watch time, and sponsorships which likewise don't give a fuck about CCV.

>>26330955
They get paid for a lot of things, anon, but not you jacking off over your lack of understanding or context for numbers.

>>26330909
It's a metric of current interest. Getting lots of views = vtuber creating lots of content and overall being more relevant with more people watching their stuff.

>You're not going to point at someone that streams 1/4th as much as Koyori and call them garbage for not having as many views as her.
Amount of content outputted is relevant, to the chagrin of EN fans.

>>26331054
Cope. These are the numbers that actually matter, CCV is not relevant to anyone important.

>>26331054
who's your oshi and how trash are her views

>>26330543
Almost 25% of Lapras views are from one single song, Chloe, Koyori and Lui have like 10 songs each one and the two latter stream 3 or 4 more times than any Council member
So comparing total views isn't a good way of measuring popularity

>>26330990
She's done a bit of buff content lately like WWE. Usually Goober struggles to break 20k which is low for a vtuber with the amount of subs she has.

>>26330934
>Cheating
Even if it was true, no one outside of here care. It's just Kizuna AI style of Vtubing then

>>26331113
Ayame

>>26329854
>it’s hard to really treat her as your traditional ID
no, I would argue that Holo ID beside her are the one who strayed far from the traditional ID vtubers.
It doesn't make sense if you think about it. Hololive Indonesia pandering to English speakers while Hololive English exists (yea I know Indonesia poor yadda yadda, but still it doesn't make any sense because they're still within one company).

Kobo is just steering the Holo ID back to their intended direction.

>>26331120
Yes, it is. Council is objectively less popular than Holox, the total views matter than your excuses

>>26331120
>No...No you can't compare them because HoloX actually makes songs and content
Now this is advanced cope. Council don't get consideration for being lazy, sorry.

>>26331141
>Usually Goober struggles to break 20k
She maintained 20k with a shitty fish kusoge twice, anon.

>>26331104
You're trying too hard, retard.
>>26331113
My oshi has over 10 million in the last 30 days.

>>26327343
>No Noel
>No Marine
I almost thought I will see Sankisei. Guess I get my hope up for nothing

>>26331153
Shitpost elsewhere, retard.

>>26329680
I like the current trend in the manga/anime of making non-black eyelashes.

>>26331120
I'm sorry Council is so bad at streaming and making repeatable content

>>26331120
You're just responding the council schizo.

https://twitter.com/hololive_event/status/1538023710233284609?t=PciojTlRbSM_ukuoEsrBaA&s=19

>>26331120
>Council doesn't make content
>Gets no views
>Noooo that's unfair!
Here's an idea. Council could...actually fucking stream? And release covers?

>>26331179
>>26331184
>>26331265
This thread is the most retarded in the most retarded board, I don't even know why I keep coming here, I've been working for almost 10 years as a data scientist and have to deal with retarded kids that couldn't even pass elementary school and think they know a single thing about numbers
Whatever

>Pekora MC VOD already have double the usual VOD view compare to her other videos
Some things never change

>>26330315
>6 months
>a long time
>in business
haha
You're funny, anon.

Another ID vs Council deflection when talking about Niji things salome prerecorded stream
>Timeloop
Timeloop

>>26331352
Because that's a schizo, anon. They don't care about your argument. They're shitposting.

>>26330817
if you're holoID, just avoid overlapping with her

>>26331356
>6 fucking hours
You don't get to pull the shit we give chumkeks shit for, nousagitards.

>>26330774

LoL

>>26331352
You are here forever

It'd be a hard gold for Hololive tonight against Dola's 4th anniversary 3D live unless pekora streams minecraft again tonight since she didn't find the city last night

>>26331352
What does being a data scientist have to do with Council not making content and getting low views because of that? You tried coping and got BTFO. You realize that making a lot of content is good and their actual fucking job, right? It's not some unfair advantage that some Holos stream a lot more, there is literally nothing stopping council from doing the same other than their own complacency and as such comparisons are completely valid.

>>26331417
WHAT FUCKING ARGUMENT?!
jesus christ, he literally pointed to some nebulous "can't measure popularity" against them losing on every metric

>>26331356
Its a 6 hrs stream anon.

>>26331352
you know that's all one person right?

>>26331443
Does anyone even give a shit about Dola? Her views are usually shit. Only relevancy she had lately was being part of the SEED relay.

>>26331352
>Working 10 years as data scientists
Yes sure anon, im barrack obama
Even if what you said is true it cant be used as argument

>>26331443
She already found it yesterday. It was Flare who didn't find it

>>26331507
Dokuzunsha meaning kuzuha might appear in her 3D live

>>26330925
Flare is very connected and has a lot of friends.
Pekora being the only 3rd gen though?
It is weird that Suisei is the only Shiraken member there.
It's also weird that they have a unit with Haachama, ven though they never interact outside of it.

Lamy she hangs out with, but Nene?

G3 and 4 are intertwined by this point, but Ayame instead of Aqua from G2?

Flare did say last stream that she's been trying different kind of songs from her usual pool, that might be the reason.

>>26331467
Neck yourself, Council schizo.

No /news/?

>>26331352
You are in the wrong here bro. You being a data scientist have nothing to do with Council having nothing to attract views
If you get no view you get no view

>>26330817
I think people assuming the ID Gura or Gura killer has to be exploding in growth like Salome or Gura herself. That's why Kobo is not considered as a candidate for one of the faces of Hololive/vtubing in general.
But the problem is Kobo's growth is not following the same typical pattern of EN and JP. Her explosive debut buff has passed, she should be entering the reclining phase by now, stablizing her current audiences. But she keeps inclining, albeit slowly, but nevertheless steady and saw no sign of stopping.

>>26331524
That was an ancient city? I thought it was a random underground city. It was pretty underwhelming.

>>26331169
Some anon in ID general also discussed this. A lot of ID vtubers is just straight up copying their JP and EN counterparts. I also reads some comments that a ID vtubers uses Twitter too much, when the majority of Indonesian netizen uses IG, FB, and Tiktok unironically , so that's why they don't get that much exposure compares to fleshtubers.
So the thing with Kobo is she didn't uses the conventional ID vtuber strategy, but instead she uses ID fleshtubers strategy and that's why she is able to tap into the average ID audience.

>>26331542
Noel not being there is the most surprising thing
And Pekora instead of Miko?
You would think she would pull Shiraken with her but, I dunno what she's thinking at times

>>26331352
Nobody is trying to measure relative popularity so your strawman isn't even relevant. Everyone knows Ayame is popular but doesn't stream often, but the point is we are deliberately factoring in the amount of content released. So if Ayame doesn't stream much she gets penalized for that by having lower views, which is the entire point.

Views are a good metric of which vtubers are doing their job well. Getting lots of eyeballs on lots of streams. Low views are indicative of doing something wrong, either not release enough content, or not making content people want to watch.

>>26331611
She already did a 3D stream with shiraken no?

>>26330817
Baelz is dying, she should stop playing random shit. After Gura, Hololive has 3 people called "Gura killer" (Bae, La+ and Kobo). Bae is really weak compared to the others

>>26331588
I thought it was pretty cool. I mean what do you expect? It's an abandoned city
I was gonna boot up Minecraft to try finding one myself after that stream if it wasn't so late

>>26331644
Yeah but what prevent her from pulling them with her one more time? Not like they have a "cooldown" for who can be invited
Either way the guest choices is so random

>>26330934
>cheater who uses prerecorded streams
The first few minutes of Pekora's comeback stream were prerecorded. Is she also a cheater?

>>26331588
there's a reason why the mc community is in fucking flames because of this update, tons of people who normally cover updates were disappointed as shit, and some are straight up trying to start some "is mohjang done" type of shit

>>26329679

Okay Suisei , Aqua , Ina , Marine , Nene = low mem

but Suisei ccv > Kuzuha = Kuzuha is lowest mem in hololive .

>>26331141
>Usually Goober struggles to break 20k
this is just not true anon

>>26331714
There's exactly one good things this update bring
The sensors
I was gonna name deepslate blocks too but that was last update

>>26331800
I mean its true if you count every streams this year no?

>>26331703
I know you are trying to point out how retarded that post was but your comparison is also pretty retarded
Airing a video on stream is nowhere close to a whole prerecorded video. Might as well compare it to 3D live

>Previous streams
4k,6k,8k
>Solo streams
2k

>>26331600
yea kobo uses ID fleshtubers strategy, breaking her way into the normie sphere. it's actually that easy to attract ID newfags, but for some reason her senpais (ID 2) were too thirsty for some anglo and jap dicks. it's also funny that their audience left them when council shows up

What the fuck is Pippa doing on Twitter? Is she yab-baiting?

Towa's EP finally got full release and is number one album on japan's itunes. Is that good?

>>26332044
What the fuck is your resolution anon?

>>26328405
What retarded cope is this? She always reads like 5 comments at the end of her streams

>>26332109
twe..

>>26332098
Wrong thread, dramafaggot.

>>26331989
almost sure that aside from some very very bad games no

>>26328405
I don't. I been asking if you can only premiere with a prerecorded videos or not?

>>26332171
Wowww so generous...

>>26331443
>>26331507
Dowla's bowling ball tits are amazing in 3D.


Plus she is a decent singer and has a bit above median views for Ninifemale.

>>26332109
Doesn't that automatically happen with all holo albums?

>Gura has bday call in stream
>All the big name jps call in
>Endless clips pour out from it
>Bday stream happens
>Everyone having the time if their life
>Merch designed by gura comes out perfect
>Sells out in seconds
>Gura announces new orisong
>Hype through the roof
>Final announcement comes
>3D live stream to come
I’m ready for the incline of a lifetime to come

>>26332109
Almost every holo can get #1 for a day or two if there's no other big release that day so it doesn't mean much by itself

What are the chances that the Zs are bot attacks that are trying to get the streams' numbers culled?

>>26332044
>Study stream
The fad is over. These always do poorly now.

>>26332276
Only if all the condition are fulfilled
Realistically I only see 2-3 of the things you mentioned become true

>>26332276
please go to /wg/.

>>26332276
I admire your reckless optimism

>>26332234
From
>She doesn't interact, prerecorded
To
>She doesn't interact more
Make up your mind rrats

>>26332084
are you flip? none of her senpais can replicate ID fleshtuber strategy, the closest one who can is risu but she barely stream and has no charisma. her memes game are too retarded since shes /here/, thus filtering the normies. ollie is ID sc queen especially in her early days, reine hold back too much, anya is a freaking jap. so tell me anon, where the fuck are you from?

>>26332234
Fuck off, I don't give a shit about your comments and superchat reading streams are trash.

>>26332262
anon? dola is behind like 20 female members in jp

>>26332205
Gura median per month base on vstats

Jan - 16,904*
Feb - 17,733
Mar - 17,659
Apr - 16,930
May - 21,019
June - 23,625

Only 2 months of 20k+ median this year. She doesn't easily get 20k anon.

>>26332276
>>Gura has bday call in stream
>>All the big name jps call in
>>Endless clips pour out from it
>>Bday stream happens
>>Everyone having the time if their life
>>Merch designed by gura comes out perfect
>>Sells out in seconds
This is all pretty realistic.
>Gura announces new orisong
>Hype through the roof
And now you're starting to go into fantasy land.
>Final announcement comes
>3D live stream to come
Roru, rumao, even.

>>26332205
She had a long streak of games in April where she didn't hit 20k. She inclined a bit with some buff content like collabs and minecraft

>>26332396
It's almost like numberfaggots are two faced tribenigger weasels who only care about forcing their narrative.

>>26332396
>>26332504
Typical bootlickers

Are people actually taking the shitposting about pre recorded streams seriously?

>>26332616
>bootlickers
Only retarded communists say this. Kill yourself

>>26332663
Who know? I couldn't careless
But do they really meant to set it as premiere? Can anyone check if they fixed it yet

>>26332663
>Be retard
>Get called out for being a retard
>Aha-ha it was just akchually shitposting

>>26332743
You can't be serious..

>>26332663
It's just retards trying to be smart replying to each other. Honestly no point posting here until EU hours.

Will update it in several hours since it just came out.

>>26332849
Is that you oriconanon? I feel like i haven't seen you for a long time.

The "failure" yotsuha with 4k viewers

Finana's song is doing good
>>26332920
No but I'm also following music sales.

>>26333017
How's finana's song on different platforms? Ototoy's not really a good measurement cuz it's too niche.

>>26328000
>>26328026
> not posting the correct version

>>26332109
Ah... normally

>>26333107

>>26328491
basically just said "look forward to my video" and corrected it to "stream" in the next sentence.

>>26333107
Here’s her spotify listens

>>26333227
God I hate this bitch

Koyo's orisong is doing really well. I'm honestly surprised.

How do we save Ame

>>26332276
has anyone mentioned or figured out what gura used her 1m, 1.5m, 2m, 3m, & 4m wish for?

>>26333261
For comparison

>>26333276
This is better than her late night oblivion streams anon, those would get like, 4-5k.
Also, there simply us no way Prime Ame is ever coming back, so give it up.

>>26333327
Removing required days to stream.

>>26333327
No. Gura hasn't ever stated what her milestone wishes are if she's used any, and I don't know if anyone has just sent an SC straight up asking her about it either.

>>26333276
Boot up fucking Minecraft, how hard is that

Mori limited item merch sold out, Do we have the number of stock for that?

>>26330317
>40k vs sub 10k

>>26332557
>Gura
>original song announced on her birthday
>fantasy land
I don't you can even qualify as a threadreader on this board.

>>26333424
Nah.
It will get another run just like Watame's and Suisei's for sure.

>>26333427
I really, really REALLY wish we had the 'watched time per user's metric from their analytics dashboard, just sonitncan be settled once and for all if Gura/Kobo/HploJP viewers attention spans are better/worse than each other.

>>26333455
Cope, chumkek, you're never getting another orisong

>>26333222
>Saudi Arabia
Is there a market in the middle east?

>>26333399
one of them might have been that country road cover

>>26333532
I remember some Middle East anon in this board

>>26333455
She only recently said she finally found somebody to help her on the song, anon. if it actually happens, it will be a while before it's done and released, and she will definitely miss her birthday for the announcement.

>>26333532
Literal Oil barons.

>>26333610
I wasn't saying that she was releasing the song, but that she has a habit of bundling all her shit togehter, which makes that an educated guess for anyone who has paid even the most minimal attention.

>>26326774
>>26326712
Niji did have the part where they hired a self admitted rapist (bragged about using drugs to get his way with girls and that he would do it to niji girls as well on his roommate twitter) nijifans caught on and he got fired before even having his debut. afterwards they made their talent hiring somewhat stricter

>>26333261
>>26333222
So it's doing poorly then

>>26333532
Only if the chuuba is halal inshallah. On a more serious note, there's a niche market, I've met a few sons of oil barons and officials in Saudi and there were quite a few weebs among them. Only the plebians in such places would cast VTubers etc. off on the basis of being haram or some shit. On a semi-related note regarding weebs in weird places I also met the 4th son of the dictator of Gabon and the guy was a huge weeb. There isn't a huge market there though, so it's kinda weird it's No 18 there.

>>26331542
Funny think about flare and haachama, flare has haachama's LINE which is EXTREMELY rare among holo members, hence the reason why she found out that haachama's prank message was... Well a prank.

>>26333699
She also said numerous times she does not like to announce shit that's WIP until it's all ready to release. She won't announce anything that's not an actual audio file on her PC.

>>26333532
One of Kanata's top gachikois is Arab

>>26333700
Ah yeah, who could ever forget about PakoRaito. That was a potentially company ending yab had they done something and it got leaked. IIRC even though the guy got immediately shitcanned there were still people trying to spin up drama about him and Chitose when she graduated like half a year afterwards.

>>26333706
finana herself is a debuff

>>26333532
As a middle Eastern myself, it's a bit hard to hit the niche because while streaming is big, it's only big for certain people if that makes sense
The only way a chuuba can actually make it big here is if they go viral somehow and people find them through something like Facebook or Instagram (they're much more used here than Twitter for example) because people won't go out of their way to find the chuuba unless the chuuba finds them. But the middle east in general is very political, if you want to be a public figure you HAVE to be pro palastine, like you HAVE to actually voice your opinion on that or you'll pretty much get absolutely ass blasted, and I don't think a company like cover would want that

>>26333706
When was it released? It takes a while for Spotify to show listens

>>26333930
June 15th

>>26333532
evidently yes

>>26333500
There is also a difference between "watch time" for catching streams live and for pure VOD viewers, not sure if youtube separate them or not.

>>26332540
Wow, she dropped a lot
When i catch her she's still around 2k but the entire niji average looks to have dropped compared to last year, with like 10 exceptions

>>26333532
Kinda? Anime is pretty popular among the distant cousins of them oil barons

>>26332849
Honestly I'm surprised its doing as well as it is. It has been 5 months since the live and the only notice that it finally fully came out is 2 tweets, one from the holomusic twitter and one from Towa's twitter.

Slow thread, here's the song reccomendation of the day https://youtu.be/TCNrKAP9mKE

More clip numbers, this time looking at HoloID's daily numbers over the week. It should be emphasised how much Kobo is an outlier, as she has a wide appeal that overcomes language, in the same way Gura and Miko do (her sounds are exceptional).

Channel ~ Weekly Views ~ Daily Low ~ Daily High
Airani Iofifteen ~ 221,192 ~ 18,571 ~ 55,481
Anya Melfissa ~ 103,525 ~ 12,712 ~ 16,329
Ayunda Risu ~ 453,766 ~ 49,718 ~ 90,860
Kaela Kovalskia ~ 646,839 ~ 53,972 ~ 169,423
Kobo Kanaeru ~ 4,900,762 ~ 579,982 ~ 775,507
Kureiji Ollie ~ 1,154,392 ~ 116,080 ~ 259,248
Moona Hoshinova ~ 884,844 ~ 92,933 ~ 184,043
Pavolia Reine ~ 535,863 ~ 38,551 ~ 185,645
Vestia Zeta ~ 880,858 ~ 83,816 ~ 145,996

Kobo gets almost 50% of all clip views over the week. This however may just be how everyone else is less clippable, there are less clips, or there is less interest in general. It is likely some combination of each, but it is undeniable she is currently the most popular HoloID member.
Next is Ollie, as expected. She borrows a lot of interest through collabs, and her ability to flip between ID and EN more easily than other members also helps. Moona, Zeta, Kaela, Reine are the mid-tiers; they can generate clips on their own consistently, but is outshined by the top.
Iofi has low interest, as her identity is not well known to EN or JP. Anya is in her own category, which also reflects her ability to gain and retain mindshare.

It bugging me how active NijiEN Twitter is compare to HoloEN Twitter
Do they even post the girls stream?

>>26334457
I don't understand why she didn't cash in the hype and delayed the EP for months.
>>26334485
>suzuna
I love blue woman.

>>26334523
Blue womans are the strongest

>Meanwhile, on /vt/numbers/biz/
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>26334523
As far as I understand it wasn't her choice but a management choice to drive physical sales. They slowly released tracks during the order period then held back Midnight Runaway until the CD was shipped out to people. She sold like 7.5k copies or something so maybe it worked but we need her to come out with a more traditional release to compare.

>>26334715
Here it is, in dollars
>IT'S UNDER 20 THOUSAND!

>>26334715
>>26334760
If you guys think the yabes in this board generate rrats and bait, don't look at /biz/

>>26334750
Watame released her album the same way but without any delay.

>>26334834
See, there's actual MONEY involved with biz. That's also why they have IDs though(yes yes, I know IPs etc but still).

Why post about bitcoin? What about Anykara stock?

>>26334989
It dives down harder than bitcoins

>>26334989
There is no nip aftermarket so there is no way but up for them on opening on Monday
>there are people IN THIS THREAD that bought high
kek

>>26335041
How do search for stock shit like that anyway?

>>26335063
>There is no way but up
Careful with your jinxes, Anon.

>>26335063
AIEEEEEE DONT SELL!!

>>26334989
The TSE doesn't open on weekends so it's still stuck at the exact same spot it was yesterday

>>26334760
GPU PRICES GOING DOWN AS WELL WOOOOO

Clip numbers for HoloEN and NijiEN over the week.

Channel ~ Weekly Views ~ Daily Low ~ Daily High
Gawr Gura ~ 7,888,358 ~ 932,372 ~ 1,443,574
Ouro Kronii ~ 4,067,017 ~ 438,456 ~ 713,404
Hakos Baelz ~ 2,032,645 ~ 166,658 ~ 435,463
Takanashi Kiara ~ 1,937,313 ~ 161,042 ~ 558,854
Vox Akuma ~ 1,833,032 ~ 215,745 ~ 306,401
Ninomae Ina’nis ~ 1,719,481 ~ 213,790 ~ 306,794
Mori Calliope ~ 1,693,386 ~ 179,019 ~ 285,821
Nanashi Mumei ~ 1,623,691 ~ 181,492 ~ 388,598
Mysta Rias ~ 1,614,720 ~ 209,614 ~ 252,257
Watson Amelia ~ 1,475,915 ~ 157,017 ~ 240,081
Ceres Fauna ~ 1,441,669 ~ 144,774 ~ 308,100
IRyS ~ 1,350,859 ~ 127,583 ~ 299,969
Ike Eveland ~ 1,214,612 ~ 136,466 ~ 234,687
Tsukumo Sana ~ 1,023,751 ~ 81,966 ~ 284,996
Luca Kaneshiro ~ 999,236 ~ 124,019 ~ 181,832
Shu Yamino ~ 943,985 ~ 115,970 ~ 166,186
Pomu Rainpuff ~ 837,608 ~ 84,028 ~ 152,002
Enna Alouette ~ 826,214 ~ 104,698 ~ 128,973
Selen Tatsuki ~ 709,686 ~ 70,728 ~ 134,354
Millie Parfait ~ 706,281 ~ 75,600 ~ 123,029
Alban Knox ~ 611,848 ~ 69,203 ~ 129,239
Elira Pendora ~ 610,330 ~ 58,939 ~ 119,627
Uki Violeta ~ 570,202 ~ 51,826 ~ 225,349
Rosemi Lovelock ~ 550,023 ~ 70,261 ~ 84,062
Fulgur Ovid ~ 524,820 ~ 57,248 ~ 124,996
Yugo Asuma ~ 433,130 ~ 49,918 ~ 84,816
Petra Gurin ~ 382,444 ~ 35,032 ~ 92,370
Nina Kosaka ~ 362,107 ~ 45,057 ~ 61,686
Sonny Brisko ~ 340,930 ~ 40,185 ~ 62,814
Finana Ryugu ~ 336,262 ~ 39,159 ~ 56,814
Reimu Endou ~ 280,057 ~ 28,019 ~ 62,568

Gura is in her own league as expected, as her lowest day trumps anyone's highest.
Watson is surprisingly low, but that is probably because of her streaming schedule over the week. She gets residual views from old clips over this time period, rather than from new interest.
Kiara overperformed with her outfit reveal, skewing her average upwards.
The method also shows its downsides with Irys. She has a lot of clips, but unfortunately they usually include other people, so the views are split amongst them.
I would comment more on NijiEN but I don't watch any of them.

>>26332540
so sanbaka and chronoir is niji's strongest unit/groups?
how about holo?

>>26332540
Emperor..

>>26335342
how is Ina on break and still getting more views than the majority of people

https://youtu.be/PtxeBdd4SBM
I require your predictions

>>26335967
her being on break is exactly why she gets more views than most people

>>26335999
20k

>>26335999
Not gura = sub 20k

>>26332540
>>26335761
>green haired nijimale at 237 median in manjisanji
QRD?

how many for her tonight?

>>26336209
It's a premier right? So it doesn't matter.

reversed totsu, maybe gold today. predict: 50k

So, I was looking at total view counts again and looking into Nijisanji's numbers. I noticed a few interesting things.

First of all, the official channel, Kanae and Kuzuha account for over a billion views within Nijisanji just by themselves, and the next ten livers after them only account for another billion all together.

The average view count for Nijisanji, after accounting for outliers with over 100 million views is about 40 million per channel, which is still pretty good. There are also a bunch of channels that haven't streamed in over three months with more than 10 million views which drag this average down, so if you removed those you would probably get something in the range of 50-60 million per channel. These numbers can be achieved even by channels unable to consistently reach 5k peak CCV, which indicates higher frequency streaming, greater stream length, and longer tenure still accounts for much of Nijisanji's lead in this area.

To contrast, even if you added Holostars and Hololive together and took their combined average, and excluded the main channel views too, you would still have over 100 million average views per channel. This with half the number of streams. Cover as a whole seems to be a 'stream less' company, and this shows in that their averages are very high but they lack the sheer volume of traffic their competition get get with more than twice the number of Vtubers.

Vrabi seems to count unarchived video views as part of the count for Nijisanji, I don't know if this is also true for Hololive, or if the views on Nijisanji's end simply haven't been cleared yet.

IROHA GOLD
>IROHA GOLD
IROHA GOLD
>IROHA GOLD

>>26336209
>premier
even got big numbers it will be useless

>>26336370
>top 34
the rest are gomi

Didn't know Hololyzer is just 1 guy.
Also he has a YT channel and superchats cute, ASMR JP chuubas.

Twitter fan-club Salome

>https://twitter.com/salomate0551?s=21&t=p53i_Dqn9EdS7CFCtllkpg
>https://twitter.com/rui_ryugu?s=21&t=p53i_Dqn9EdS7CFCtllkpg
>https://twitter.com/t_toozz?s=21&t=p53i_Dqn9EdS7CFCtllkpg
>https://twitter.com/1000000ruri?s=21&t=p53i_Dqn9EdS7CFCtllkpg

50-60% They just tweet only her

Sorry for my language

but it's similar to my country https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1999463/twitter-takes-down-thai-army-io-network

>>26334989
Anykara ranked #1 as the biggest loser.