/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

this one

this one

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>42,188: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>22,524: Gura (Hololive)
>21,026: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,827: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,675: Lize (Nijisanji)
>17,404: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,137: Met (774 Inc.)
>16,089: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>15,165: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>14,799: Shion (Hololive)
>14,288: Vox (Nijisanji)
>13,443: Flare (Hololive)
>13,275: Gatchman (Indie)
>12,870: Noel (Hololive)
>11,488: Luna (Hololive)
>11,288: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,071: Calli (Hololive)
>10,901: Watame (Hololive)
>10,897: Lamy (Hololive)

>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349 - 3D debut
10) Salome (Nijisanji) - 71,690 - English study
11) Salome (Nijisanji) - 78,179 - Resident Evil 7
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 88,559 - Resident Evil 7
13) Chloe (Hololive) - 137,594 - 3D debut
14) Salome (Nijisanji) - 99,770 - Resident Evil 7
15) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,188 - Rust

>PER COMPANY
10x: Nijisanji
5x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
9x: Salome
1x: Chloe, Haachama, Iroha, Kuzuha, Mio, Watame

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
108x: Hololive
49x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
13x: Salome
12x: Kuzuha, Miko
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Ange, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

Did we ever get a Yugo archive?

>>26201455
no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOZxZy1HcJg

>>26201480
bummer

"Median of peak CCV"

>>26164168 :: Top 50
>>26164599 :: 1k plus
>>26165202 :: Full
>>26165983 :: "International"
>>26166510 :: All minus COVER and Anycolor
>>26166695 :: Merged Brave Group

>>26201627
> 95k median
well I expected it but it's still a sight to see.

>>26201654
It will never happen again

Vstats article on the state of the vtuber industry.
https://note.com/vstats/n/nb9039fdf6e55
>>26162657
>>26162728
>>26162789
>>26162834

>>26167631 :: true average, the Top 50
>>26167779 :: 1k plus
>>26167884 :: All
>>26168135 :: "international version"

>>26201455
no

>>26201893
What corpo does the purple V belong to?

>>26201983
Not sure because it says that Miori is part of that group and she's an indie, ex-Tsunderia

Indie desuwa hirasaka mei playing rust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb7sifDcyPQ

I remember in 2021 she always playing truck simulator & sometimes pandering to latin viewer.

>>26201983
I think it's indie

>>26202210
Is she legit autistic?

Dumb tread

Salome is the fucking best vtuber number #1 in the world = Nijisanji No 1

>That's all

>>26202399
Well said

>>26202267
Ah I see.

>>26201627
>>26201780
Sorry if it's asking too much, can you make pie charts of average of ccv distributions for each company? ie. holo has 10% for >10k etc etc

Serious question, but is there any company that can beat Anykara at this point now that they're seriously trying to buff as much content as possible?

Surprised that reid get this many viewer (7800)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LseS3Zz8I0g

Though only apex & collab that give him big number

>>26201893
Jwu so Rust server is back? I thought it got DDOS'd

>>26202547
Baffling post

>>26202494
You mean ?

If EN3 had someone with a chef theme who did regular cooking related streams and was actually good at it, what kind of numbers would they get? I know cooking streams have been done before, is it buff or debuff content?

Anykara is already making banks with IPO, I can't wait to see what projects they'll have in the future.
There might be anime and games as well.

>>26202595
Pie charts Anon, PIE CHARTS!
It's actually easy enough to do with the average CCV charts that we have, but I'm lazy and away from my home PC otherwise I'd do it just for the hell of it.

>>26202399

AEW can't win WWE even though they have Best in the World "Cm Punk" . Do you know? why ?

>>26202595
>VERSEn median is lower than their number of streams for the month
Please... anyone... save them...

>>26202692
Tends to fall under 'buff', but how regular are we talking?
I could see something that's bi-weekly in short one-two hour sessions as being possible without wearing it out too quickly.

>>26202712
You don't understand how IPO works

>>26202595
I get irrationally angry when i see holostars in the middle of the list and remember the noise starsfag makes over them like they were at the absolute bottom.

>>26202831
Like, 1 stream a week on Sunday at a moving timeslot(breakfast/lunch/dinner time) on rotation, and another stream midweek which is zatsudan/recipe planning/review of viewer submissions, on a another weekly rotation.

>>26202842
it's the bait shitposter that's playing two sides
he came early today
he already ran out of shit to say so he's just copy pasting the same bait from the past few days his notepad

Looking at the median chart, why is Hololive still so high? And why can't Salome convince people to watch other Nijisanji members?

>>26203004
>And why can't Salome convince people to watch other Nijisanji members?
For only 11$ she can make her viewers watch whoever she wants.

>>26203004
Salome couldn't even convince her viewers to watch her today

>>26203004
>why can't Salome convince people to watch other Nijisanji members?
That can be said for the reat of Nijisanji

>>26203091
Anon, she still got 90k median so shut up.

>50 posts
>16 IPs
If you know, you know.

>>26203109

>>26203004
Does it matter when Anykara is making billions more than Cover these days?

>>26203148
This would be a good point if people weren't responding to each other and having conversations, fucking muppet.

>>26203210
Baffling post

>>26202962
Mmmmm.......
The issue with rotating timeslots would be how filtering that would get. You would likely end up with 3 different audiences instead of developing one if you stuck to a timeslot.
Also, once a week, from a content planning perspective...it might be too often imo. Also, planning streams... Seems like something that would honestly make more sense to go behind membership streams.

truly heaven and earth level of ceiling and floor

>>26203154
Botted views
Botted likes
Botted comments
Botted trends
Botted fanart
Botted cosplay
Botted SC

I really hope that Anykra starts changing their company structure to incorporate some sort of box because the median looks mighty fine for Hololive and not Anykara.
But since the company is making billions right now, I doubt they will change much.

>>26203397
Are you incapable of basic math?

>>26203397
I don't think they care about a box, at least the company, the livers would probably be better off doing it themselves.

>>26203437
A box would strengthen the company much better and will keep competitors from ever rising up again. I don't see how that's a bad thing.

>>26203491
It would require actually supporting the company's talents. Why would they do that when they could just pocket the money and ditch?

>>26203649
Holy shit, that rrat is still running around? What evidence do you have that proves the company doesn't support livers?

>>26203397
Their goal is short term profits, achieved from endless debuts. More livers = more celebrations to get money and sell merch

Someone post Riku's interview

>>26203829
There's literally mountains of evidence posted every fucking thread, we go through this argument constantly and Nijisanji is proven over and over again to be a black company. What kind of rock do you live under where this is just some rrat?

>>26203865
https://youtu.be/cBGy7mU3zkg

>>26203889
Yeah, like Cover is not just as shady. Face it, businesses are businesses. They're not there to be your friends.

>>26204142
This is why this guy is successful, he had a vision from the start and executed it masterfully.
There is literally no vtuber company that can go public and gains as much money as Anykara.

>>26204343
Baffling post

This place is really dead huh?

>>26202210
She is now part of the among us(and similar games) community like some of the other indies such as Yanmi. They're all playing Rust on the among us streamers server, not the general streamers server.

>>26203268
NTA, but I want to add that it would also depend on if they could consistently get off collabs for it. Cooking streams are far more compelling if there's another member to fill cooking time with conversation and to try the food and give their impressions for it. Given how very few EN off collabs have happened, that seems a bit hard to pull off.

>>26204680
I abandoned thread as soon as I saw the shitposting begin to pick up

>>26204705
Oh so Rust is buff game after all, I thought it's just streamer server that give them buff. Can't wait for HoloRust arc then

>>26204940
Of course it's a buff game, people watch it for the drama not for the people.

>>26204872
True, trying to solo carry cooking streams isnt easy, hence why I suggested once every 2 weeks since it gives more prep time since I doubt any EN would be reliably able to offcollab for these kinds of streams.

>>26203343
90% bots, 10% bamboozled trendhoppers.

>>26204940
Holorust wont be kino unless griefing is allowed. And now you will remember the holoen mystery hole patch up bc a jp member died in it.

Koyori 3D predictions?
I'm gonna go with 140k minimum.

>>26205198
-20k

>>26205198
You think she'll beat Chloe? I think she'll beat Iroha, but I can't imagine she'll get more than Chloe.

>>26205198
Below gura. 33k tops

>>26201455
Well, she could always do it again. It's just a matter of time.

>>26205198

100k
130k if shes lewding it up

>>26205198
200K

>>26205198
realistic ? 100-120k range imo

>>26205233
Chloe's was on a Monday. Koyori is also marginally more popular than Chloe iirc from her avg median and ccv.

>>26205198
120k. She's self promoting like crazy though so it depends on how many tourists she can drag in.

Chloe's rm was so fucking lucky to be blessed by Parsley and getting that model. Literally Ayame 2.0 but with higher motivation to stream.

>>26202842
He was technically right tho, enikara made banks from IPO, the IPO itself not the price fluctuations after IPO.

>>26205386
They made less money than Ludwig got from Youtube to move over to their platform

>>26205198
Safe guess: greater than 100k.
Close guess: 130k.

>>26203153

anycolor actually make less net profit on more revenue than Cover, even though Cover is also spending a bunch of money making video games and anime

>>26205477
That's because Anycolor is running an economy of scale and their cost structure is probably ass

>>26205198
Bro Chloe desperately whored herself to get 137k no way holox hags are getting close to that. Your only hope is Laplus with nothingburger buff.

>>26204940
The jp amongus streamers community is actually fairly big but it's a mix of streamers and (mostly indie) chuubas so you won't see many people talking in English about it. Unless you follow some indie chuuba who regularly plays within this community. This particular Rust server was only started 2 days ago and is only limited to people already part of said community.

Hololive has been strangely quiet about Anime Expo despite them having this whole HoloMeet project going on. I thought they had a booth there already right?

Koyori funneling into Botan.
Project Zomboid arc incoming

>>26204142
absolutely deusional

>>26205701
They actually got booted last minute for a Meet and Greet for Luxiem because fans were more interested in it.

>>26205477
How come the net profit for Anykara is lower than Cover? I mean, Anykara doesn't even have anything to invest back in though.

>>26205198
Minimum : 100k+
Expectation : 120k+
Kneel territory : 130k+

>clean voice
>positive vibe
>good commentary
>nice banter with chat
>long hour stream
Irys reminds me of Lize from NijiJP, Holo got a great streamer.

Did SEA get rangebanned? Thread is quite dead.

>>26203153

Niji concert = free

Holo fes = 100 usd / 1 seat
makuhari mese = 9,000 seat
online = don't know more than 100k views

Not includes holofes goods

>>26205756

>>26205756
The con is in LA, not Taipei, anon

>>26205749
I'm seriously looking forward to this

>>26205776
Even though it doesn't seem like the livers get anywhere close to the attention other vtubers in corpos get i can only imagine that the sheer amount of them still have some sort of upkeep, unless they are pocketing a ton of money and i honestly wouldn't be that surprised if they did.

>>26205794
Hmm yeah no, I don't think so, though it is quite quiet in the thread right now even though it's schizo hours.

>>26204142
Utako...

Eew, a blatant self-reply.

>>26205847
Managers need to be payed at least, and Anykara has like twice the number of those for more than twice the number of talents

>>26205776
They probably have a lot of managers and office staff who aren't very efficient
During the period when they were self-admittedly an actual black company they had hundreds of interns working 15 hours a day to do fuck knows what. When Cover was the same size they had about 30 staff

>>26205754

Is this a niji board member? What a shithead.

>>26205776

employee

>>26205894
*paid

>>26205901
I wonder, do Cover count the game developers they're hiring as employees within their company, or as some kind of external contractors?

>>26205068
Fauna said she's going to play Rust and grief other Holos

>>26205809

Oh my calculator
>Ok i kneel

Jesus, there is a whole Japanese softcore community on YT. A bunch of videos of naked girls going to onsen

>>26205809
Still doesn't explain why Anykara earns more than Cover but you do you.

>>26205955
Cover has always had game devs on staff, they started as a VR game company and their 3D live stuff is based on Unity. They've been hiring more game dev staff since HoloEarth started being a thing

>>26205809
Isn't this predatory for Hololive? Even the competitor isn't that greedy and open the concert for everyone.

>>26206040
How is this relevant?

>>26206081
It is. Plenty of people have voiced their discontent of Hololive paywalling HoloID and HoloEN's 3d debut and much preferred Nijisanji's free concert model.

>>26205809

Stupid LED 4,000Y , WTH Yagoo ???

>>26206075
Is their superior corporate culture from Anykara a byproduct of being a game company then, where their staff are actually people with skills tech fields?

>>26206125
I wonder why this issue has not gone bigger, like Cover needs to be called out for this.

Which holos still don't have the gifted membership feature if anyone is keeping track?

>>26206168
Probably because that anon is lying his ass off. No one gives a shit, that's how concerts work

>>26206181
I don't think Kiara has it.

>>26206125
>Plenty of people
Most likely from your discord

I think some people are just bored and replying themselves

>>26205776
Cover
>less employees
>sell more per talent
>bigger margins ($100 sets)
Anykara
>more employees
>sell less per talent but offset that with more talents
>lower margins ($50 sets)

>>26206181
I know haachama doesn't have it

>>26206068
>earn
Revenue =/= profit. Please go back to school

>>26206144

nijinig jealous

>>26206187
He is replying to himself most likely.

>>26206148
The game dev industry is actually infamous for terrible working conditions anon
The main difference is Cover is led by a guy who's genuinely passionate about the industry, whereas Riku outright said he saw it as a trend he could hop on to make a quick buck

>>26206241
Cope and seethe more faggot. Niji is infinitely more popular and more relevant than Cover.

you guys are legit schizo huh

>>26206303
Baffling post

>>26206209
people left after the play both sides samefag schizo came spouting nonsense and replying to himself

>>26206274
> Riku outright said he saw it as a trend he could hop on to make a quick buck
I'm still amazed that it took this long before that was uncovered and confirmed

Gura hit 4M off-stream

>>26206274
No, I mean the fact that these people probably all know what it's like to work in black companies because they're game devs, which is why Cover isn't as bad as it could be due to not wanting to replicate that

Once bitten twice shy and all that

early

>>26206317
>142 replies
>40 posters
It's like, one or two dudes replying to themselves constantly, with the occasional bored faggot jumping in.

KNEEL

>>26206335
It was being posted here for a while actually. The nijifans just called the sources schizo and antis in an attempt to discredit the information, but the JoPs have known for a while that Anykara is a black company

>>26206344
I guess it's possible. Yagoo came from working on non-game 3D stuff at Sanrio though if I remember right

>>26206342
>>26206355
this fucking brat knew she was a few hundred away so she didn't bother streaming the collab and risk hitting it on-stream.

>>26206395
Why though?

>>26206342
that a-chan tweet helped her

>>26206410
Because then she had to acknowledge it.

>>26206040
What kind of numbers do they get, going to need some proof.

>>26206410
because then people wlil be spamming it in chat

>>26206395
Numbers scare her

>>26206410
Anon, if she did that she'd have to interrupt the flow of the collab to go '4m oh yay' and everyone ELSE'S chat would ALSO get spammed too.
Looks like the Cover brought the timing of 4m forward a few days.

>>26206144
It changes to all the different colors for the various holos anon

Now Gura will get away with not celebrating 4m sub since she will merge it with her birthday
This, /#/, is a display of power of a number master, she manipulated the number so that it hit milestone when she wanted it to

>>26206484
Come to think about it, has Nijisanji ever sold those?

why is it so frustrating to see nijisanji constantly fuck up

>>26206355
>>26206390
So many wasted opportunities. That's why vtubers do endurance streams, so the milestone is reached during stream and not off stream

>>26206274
>Riku outright said he saw it as a trend he could hop on to make a quick buck
Source on this? I genuinely doesn't know because I'm new.

>>26205809
Partial merch sales for limited quantity items at holofes
Weiβ Schwarz Premium Booster : hololive production 23646 $32.00 $756,672.00
Tote Bag 2022 666 $32.00 $21,312.00
Messenger Bag 2022 215 $20.00 $4,300.00
Logo Cushion 2022 65 $20.00 $1,300.00
Windbreaker 321 $77.00 $24,717.00
hololive EN×NEW ERA COLLABORATION CAP(Green) 190 $63.00 $11,970.00
hololive EN×NEW ERA COLLABORATION CAP(Blue) 308 $63.00 $19,404.00
hololive 3rd fes. Link Your Wish Penlight 1059 $32.00 $33,888.00
hololive 3rd fes. Link Your Wish Rubber Wristband 707 $7.00 $4,949.00
hololive SARASA Clip Ballpoint Pen Set (5 colors) 1871 $8.00 $14,968.00
$893,480.00

Where did those 5k people come from? Last I checked, she was still at like 3,995M. This is crazy!

>>26206624
wooooah totally crazy anon!!! I can't believe it myself!!

>>26206390
Nice job shork. Only 10mil to go and you could be the most subbed Vtuber in the world.

>>26206624
>5k people see she is close to 4m
>"Might as well sub to be part of the 4m"
It's just that simple

>>26206591
Jesus, they made way more money off cards than they did everything else

>>26206470
And what's wrong with taking a few seconds to acknowledge a big milestone that nobody else in the field has achieved?

>>26206668
Gura hates being the one to have achieved it, so she refuses to acknowledge it.

>>26206659
it's an investment, pulling the right card pays for itself

>>26206624
your post sounds ironic, but I'd say the WWE did help. I recognized some people from other fanbases sent her SC during the WWE stream, they might as well sub for the first time too

>>26206588

>>26156680

>>26206546

what do you mean ?

>>26206668
because it's a nothingburger milestone when someone who has half her subs can mog her 9 times out of 10

>>26206668
Ask Gura
She hate being in the spotlight for some reason and do everything in a very secretive manner

>>26206624
>3,995M
>>26206651
Once again, it's made up numbers made by projecting her previous growth, but it's retarded since growth accelerate when you're near a milestone

>>26206659
Well yeah they had as many as they needed because it was bushiroad making them

>>26206668
>nobody else in the field has achieved
>CookieSwirl - 14mil
baffling post

>>26206693
If they have ever sold penlights.

>>26206668
anon how new are you? People don't claim her having Imposter Syndrome for nothing

>>26206702
>Once again, it's made up numbers made by projecting her previous growth, but it's retarded since growth accelerate when you're near a milestone
this, I remember when haachama's growth suddenly stagnated and the site had to drop her down like 3k 5 times each time she tried to roll over 10k

>>26206691
Wow, Riku sounds like a tool

>>26206624
How? did you know that? The counter only shows 10k increments

>>26206712
Do you watch CookieSwirl? What's her content?

>>26206728
Oh I know. I just figure she would've gotten used to it after a while. She's had that top spot for so long now.

time for newfags and cumbuds to take over the thread I guess

>>26206723
why would they, they're not an idol company.
bring your own if you want to cheer.

>>26206753
https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-subscriber-counter/UCoSrY_IQQVpmIRZ9Xf-y93g

>>26206838
Those are not real numbers but projections

>>26206081
>>26206125
> Holos have multiple bday concerts, anniversary concerts etc. that are completely free
> the biggest group concert is the only one paywalled
> p-predatory
> d-discontent

>>26205198
She won't even break 100k. Whales already blew their load on Chloe and so many 3ds in a row means less tourists show up for each one. I pity whoever is last.

Salome bar charts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko_qYWwsIgo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j93WfViu9OU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POM7P7leis

It'll be interesting to see how the much the tourist audience turns out to Koyori's 3D because the rust event that the streamer server has been building up to starts in an hour.

>>26206723
https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/item/detail/SSZX-61652_st?ima=0218 yes

>>26206723
>>26206820
https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/item/detail/SSZX-98966
It's not that hard to google "にじさんじ ペンライト" anon

>>26205776
>>26205477
Did I miss Cover's 2022 financial report, or are you just using last year's numbers?

>>26206876
Why the fuck would they sell that? The fans can bring their own lights, Anykara is not an idol company.

>>26206712
Going by that logic Pewdiepie should also be counted as a vtuber since he used a model once.

>>26206881
Well, i'm lazy and wanted to start a conversation that could lead somewhere.

>>26206872
Rust tourists probably don't watch Hololive anyway. If they do they're watching the 3D event. You seriously think someone would isn't a Hololive anti would choose to watch the Rust event over a 3D? Are you drunk?

Reminder of Anykara CEO
Source: https://careerhack.en-japan.com/report/detail/971

> Title : I want to play the game in a way that I get immediate results.
> In reality, we went with virtual YouTubers because we thought it was a business suited for short-term focus.
> *stuff about Apple and the facecam tech*
> In Japan, the Fishers' video, "The animated characters that I shouldn't laugh at got to me." got viral, and there seemed to be a market for it (This thing : https://youtu.be/28jAR_LDNJE).). [Embed]
> I thought that if I concentrated on the combination of animoji and live streaming - which was starting to become popular - I could compete in this field.
> Around that time, VTuber "Kizuna Ai" had just surpassed 1M subs and was getting very popular. She was ranked high among female YouTubers.
> There was no doubt that virtual YouTubers were coming. I released "Nijisanji" to ride the wave.
> I don't know how long virtual YouTubers will continue to grow in the future.
> However, I think that's fine. If I see an area that I think will be the next viral thing, I'll just keep expanding into it.
> After all, I am a short-term-focus type of person (lol).

>>26206895
>Anykara is not an idol company.
They sure like to compare themselves with idols when it suits them.

>>26206933
This should be attached to the Nijicope copypasta along with that other article which shits all over Nijisanji

>>26206838
Fake numbers based on the last 10K rate.

>>26206890
Please, post if for us if you have it then.

>>26206933
Wow so he really just get lucky then, good for him

>>26206895
>Anykara is not an idol company.
It's not for lack of trying anon, they've had a few named units on the JP side and the first few waves of NijiEN were basically hololive clones in structure with debut unit songs and everything

>>26206954
That image literally confirms they are not idols.

No, seriously. I want to see Cover's 2022 financial report. You implied you saw it, so where is it?

>>26207017
at this point i dont even know what differentiates idols from normal groups of people who sing and dance
pomu still seems like more of an idol than most of HoloEN but is explicitly not one

>>26207072
They're going off last year's numbers anon
There's no reason to assume things significantly changed this year, anycolor's margins stayed about the same and cover have been spamming pay-per-view events

If gura doesnt do a 4m celebration stream i will sell all my holo en coins.
I will not be cucked out of a milestone 4 times in a row.

OLLIE WILL OVERLAP KOYORI 3D STREAM HOLY SHIT, THIS INDOG REALLY GOING TO BREAK THE RULES

>>26206867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rglluRHp0wg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfOT8O82vw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUD6u36Nztw

>>26206858
>I pity whoever is last
Nah Laplus is the most popular holox and Cover made sure to shove her down everyone's throats.

>>26207187
Anon? It's basically a rule in hololive that something is only a big event if an ID overlaps it

>>26207019
There's no reason for to put "not idol" in them, they could've just gone only "excludes the potential risk of having your identity exposed"/Stay anonymous being a stream while having your identity protected.

>>26207178
She won't
She carefully manipulated the number so that it fall right on her birthday. Blue women are not to be underestimated

>>26207200
>Laplus is the most popular holox
Rumao, not after her recent yabs with the rust server and ending her stream because she heard a knock on the door.

>>26207178
She's going to celebrate 4M in her member's stream

>>26207223
It is to differentiate themselves from their competitors, idol company Hololive.

So much for Salome getting 4M before Gura

>>26207256
get ready to kneel when she gets 150k

>>26207187
wasn't it risu before ? what happened with risu's overlapping tendency

>>26207187
its a collab, let her be

>>26207178
>4 times in a row.
she celebrated her 2 mills tho

>>26207256
Go be a schizo somewhere else, we already proved it was a nothingburger

>>26207228
You missed the latter
>Cover will shove her down everyone throat
She is like a mascot

>>26207256
Are you the same ESL schizo who was spamming this in /jp/ or did you actually buy the rrat
She ends literally all of her streams by just yelling "bye" and instantly cutting them off

>>26207286
There was no way that was ever going to happen even if she kept her peak speed.

>>26207315
i think she wanted to do one for the 3m but the tech wasn't there. couldn't get syncroom to work correctly for a myth singing collab

>>26207152
But didn't Anycolor's margin multiply by thirty? It said so on the slide they showed to investors

>>26207324
>we

>>26207256
Baffling post.

for some reason, trackholo still thinks she has a week to reach 4m despite recording 1m right there

>>26207187
because fucking ollie is gonna detract significantly from Koyori's viewcount.

>>26207356
he also did this in the holox thread and the mikeneko thread btw

>>26207356
he doesn't watch streams

>>26207384
she's 1M chuuba, ofc she will draw big number

>>26207178
>4 times in a row
She did a 2 million celebration

>>26207409
kek

>>26207178
Cover will force her this time. They can't afford to go easy on Gura anymore, not with Salome nipping at their heels.

>>26207356
I use /jp/ as a gauge. If they doesn't react then it's a nothingburger

>>26207379
Trackholo also puts pekora 2M as "unforeseeable" despite being 60k away

>>26207187
OH GOD MASSIVE OVERLAP!!?

>>26207357
Just buy more bot subs.

>>26207431
Because her sub growth is pretty bad these day and kind of random

>>26207356
He's the one pushing the rrat.

>>26207358
Yea. She mentioned not being able to get the Yamaha program to work or something and in the end just let the milestone pass on by...

>>26207424
Baffling post

>>26207424
How the fuck having a celebration will help them win against Salome?

>>26207270
There's no reason to bring up idol or their competitor lol. Streamer is a general term, they could've used just that. It's the same reason why there were some vtuber companies who try to put non-idol like in their "About Us" when there's no reason to put that.

If vtuber is getting acquainted to "idol" due to the nature of parasocial weebs and because of Hololive being the biggest, then it's pretty mindblowing how Hololive is living rent free in other people's head when they're just streamers.

>>26207520
>How will a stream with a guaranteed 300k CCV help them win against Salome
???

>>26207430
Nta but hlg is the laplus circlejerk thread these days. You only need to read the posts there whenever she streams. The thread would go on twice the normal speed with reddit tier positivity. It's great.

>>26207364
What a bad slide

>>26207539
Quit being a falseflagging faggot.

>>26207539
>300k CCV
lol

>>26207520
equivalent to teabagging salome

LET ME IN, ABE!

>>26207539
Pfffffffffffft

>>26207364
You think cover's profits didn't ALSO multiply? They have lower costs and their promotions have sped up, they've done way more events and released more merch recently than they were doing, they have more talents too, everything is getting faster

>>26207364
It's baffling how low effort the english version of this looks.

>>26207520
>ESL
>Nijinigger
Predictable.

Man, that's beyond delusional it's kinda sad

What

>>26206392
You literally dont know the definition of a black company if you think Anycolor is one. Try to look at actual black companies in japan to see what happens.

>>26207547
Well it mean Cover artificial push DOES work to some extend. Can't ignore something when it got shown literally everywhere

>>26207604
raid

>>26207589
>>26207554
>>26207553
You seriously think a full 3D live celebration of 4 million subs for Gura wouldn't get 300k? Delusional. She got 190k with just a costume reveal.

>>26206148
lmao superior corporate culture.
i guess i shouldn't be surprised by this thread bias

>>26207604
Gura effects. She's lifting every vtuber to a new heights.

>>26207624
>Cover artificial push
It's just Laplus who accepted every single main channel appearance as much as possible

>>26207636
Pffffffft

>>26207604
Raid, I guess. That poor viewer retention though

>>26207624
This is a rrat, which has been debunked already. Laplus isn't pushed, she just signs up for everything. These are opportunities no one else is taking these days, so she's getting all of them

>>26207636
get better material

>>26207632
From who?

>>26206148
>superior corporate culture
Superior culture of bullying their talents maybe

so, what happened to the shark last night? 35k is really unimpressive for a WWE stream. salome mogged gura with a fucking zatsu.

>>26207604
Le-Raided by Selen.
Whenever you see oddities like this, ALWAYS CHECK NIJIEN STREAMS THAT END WHEN THESE STREAMS SPIKE AND 99.5% OF THE TIME ITLL BE A RAID.

goobs not trending on twatter yet for being the first non-convert vtuber to reach 4 morbilions?

>>26207683
Baffling post

>>26207017
None of what you said is idol shit, holy fuck. You only are an idol if you call yourself as such, thats how it works. Idol is just a branding.

>>26207672
I wonder what they get in exchange for showing up to those

>>26207686
To be pretty fucking fair that was to be expected. Gura buff game usually reach that range
Her normal game stream are somewhere around 20k+ most of the time

Have we entered peak schizo hours now?

>>26207704
Nobody is baffled by Nijisanji bullying their talents anymore. It's a given.

>>26207667
>Apex into Omori
The fact that he's held on to as much as he has for as long as he has is honestly better than I would expect.

>>26207702
4 million isn't that impressive. salome got 1/4 of that in under 2 weeks and vox got 1/2 of that between his YT and B2 accounts in less than 6 months. it took gura like a year to get from 3.9m to 4m.

>>26207678
Selen

>>26207720
More recognition

>>26207720
You get to hang out with Towa

>>26207742
Nijisanji never had a manager trying to rape a vtuber, anon.
and before you say raito, the fucker was terminated very fast after it was discovered, unlike cover who took ages to do anything about Mel and had to apologize in public.

EN Gold?

>>26207778
i want to hang out with twap...

>>26207624
Mate, Laplusfriends have been obsessively stalking her rm life since day one as she has the most active rm among holox. They also TLposts everything she said on stream for other anons. Her fans are the most parasocial bunch, rivalling even Rushia. Cover barely did anything to affect their fondness towards her.

>>26207754
Baffling post that can't even numberfag correctly and tries to combine b2 and YouTube numbers.(Gura got 3M on July the fucking 4th last year)
Please drown yourself in the shitpile you're dredging this bait up from.

>>26207754
seethe nijinigger

>>26207800
>Nijisanji never had a manager trying to rape a vtuber, anon.
Trying? No. Actually succeeding? Many examples. Barely any Niji talents haven't been weinstein'd

>>26207801
40K

>>26207717
If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, etcetera

>>26207800
cover also never had a nipple incident tho

Who killed the hype?

>>26207632
Fucking nijien lmao. I don't even need to check to know it was one of them

>>26207801
Should be. 50k imo

>>26207720
You don't have to stream that much, as Laplus constantly demonstrated. She's minmaxing this vtube business.

>>26207859
talking directly to the audience is a giga debuff for larp streamers, apparently. enough to filter 60% of the viewerbase.

>>26207800
Mel's situation has been distorted through memes and nijinigger slander, what happened was
>Mel had a manager who made advances on her
>Mel reported it to upper management who fired that manager
>that manager continued stalking her
>cover was like "Well we already fired him, what more do you expect us to do"
Then the story leaked and suddenly it became "mel's manager raped her while cover stood by and did nothing" and nijiniggers being nijiniggers jumped on it to pump up their "cover is a black company" narrative and now here we are.

>>26202692
OniGiri number should be good indicator
https://www.youtube.com/c/OniGirien

>Gura 4m
Gura-sama, I kneel.

>>26207731
>seriously responding to a salmonella comparison post

>>26207801
he'll get 13k just like his vibrator stream. vox has peaked and he has to get by on Zs now.

>>26207859
Herself
Literally no one do anything to her and her audience is her alone
If she lose number then it can only be her fault

>>26207801
Eh.
If it was his first-time I'd say he would stand a good chance at beating 34k but he's already done a handcam stream before, so his first-time buff is gone.
Still put it down as 'possible', depends on how long Mysta goes for since he starts an hour before Vox.

>>26207859
nijien

>>26207859
Petra

>>26207859
She fucked up by using a thumbnail that didnt let tourists know it was her at a glance (and her audience appears to be hypercasual so they didn't even bother to check the title).

>>26207859

Confirmed Gorilla and Nene
Thoughts?

>>26207859
They forgot to charge their phones so the viewfarms couldn't activate

>>26207977
suisei towa peko

>>26207977
>Gorilla
Debuff
>Nene
Neutral

>>26207972
a zhang responsible for killing hype
coincidence???

>>26202595
Post the June chart cowards

>>26207977
Pretty nice
Those 2 can perform well. Hope she can get some decent peak with this, she's been shafted for too long. I just want Flare to get some nice numbers for once

>>26207977
That was NENE? I couldn't tell since the other shadows were overlapping her......

>>26206820
How to make a fool out of yourself 101

Remember anons,

There were people saying a drop from 90k ccv to 40k ccv a natural recline. Ignore the baits. Become better.

>>26207801
If it doesn't get close to his previous numbers, then the IPO bots theory is confirmed

>>26207968
Funny thing is she had MORE active chatters that stream than she usually gets with 90k. Really makes you think

>>26207972
the original gura killer herself. what is the secret to her power?

>>26207424
[???] HoloEN is totally unsupervised and ignored by Cover Japan. There's no one to give her orders.

>>26207977
>Miko and Pekora are both there
OH MY

>>26207887
And people wonder why the nijiniggers are despised by anyone who has ever encountered them.

>>26208022
There is at least one other Holo on that black blob

>>26207977
Chances of any holox appearing? Lui and Chloe apparently formed a unit with Noel and Flare.

>>26208003
She's a HK zhang, not sure if that counts

>>26208041
they are going to say 40k going back to 90k is a natural recline too

Whats more impressive Gura's 4M subs or Salomes 90k debut month ccv?

>>26208011
June hasn't ended yet
When it does there's going to be a lot of shitposting though, since that list is based on peaks so NijiEN's result will be wildly disproportionate due to raid spam

>>26207887
the "lol mels manager raped her" has been a /hlg/ meme for ages

>>26208041
Nah it's just proof that her number are heavily depended on tourist. Very fragile numbers at that
Losing 50k just because you are not in the thumbnail is unprecedented

>>26208041
Did Salome really get 40k CCV?

>>26208111
nijinigger memes seem to only constitute about lying for some reason

>>26206540
And that, anon, is why /#/ will be eternal seething when it comes to her number

>>26208115
yeah, zatsus are a 60% debuff for her, even though she's a character-themed larptuber that is specifically known for a signature phrase.

>>26208054
>Right side in the middle is clearly Miko's new outfit
Holy shit I think you are right

>>26207702
Murica sleeping, she hasn't done a celebration stream or acknowledged it, she hasn't asked the audience to retweet anything.

>>26208107
NijiEN isn't the only branch that uses raids

>>26208071
Bro I see no Miko

>>26207994
Upper middle is Ayame, Towa's idol outfit doesn't have earrings

>>26207977
Is it just me or Korone was the only one with a solo 3D birthday live? She also got shit numbers for it which was a shame considering how godlike her performances are.

>>26208113
so do we add "thumbnail cope" to the list now?

>>26208107
The funny thing is that HoloEN barely spams yet their viewership is still miles higher than NijiEN.
Is being a pure numberfag hurting NijiEN in the long run?

>>26207859
She forgot to put herself in the fucking thumbnail.
She'll be back to 90k next stream and you can continue seething then.

>>26208144
All of them are wearing their idol outfits anon

>>26206712
Okay, now tell her to do it again from scratch lmao

>>26208150
They are, however, the one where the peaks produced by raids are the most disproportionate from their natural peaks and actual viewer retention

>>26208054
never gonna be on at the same time, sorry pkmkfags

>>26207859

Thank you chinese penguin of doom for swatting this fly.

>>26208107
I think the raid buffs are wearing off, lots of people ended at the same time and raided selen and she didn't pass 6k
people are catching on and mostly just leave when the streamer ends (same as twitch raids), you won't get huge spikes like that one fulgur stream

>>26208158
Not everyone has the confidence and ability to sing and dance for one hour anon.

>>26207859
No one, she was only hyped up by third world ESL contrarians and chink bots. No one could tell you why she was so great except for "very engaging, knows how to keep everyone entertained". All I saw was EOP pandering, the type of people who watch her are the same weebtrash that spam "PADORU PADORU" everywhere unwarranted.
Plus there's the rrat that it was all a psyops for anycolors investors. Considering that Rikus been burned before, I wouldn't be surprised if this rrat has merit. Give it some time and we'll see where she really falls, remember that Nijiniggers said the same thing about Vox and look at him now.

>>26208168
Ok but you can't deny that losing 50k just because you are not in the thumbnail mean her number are very fragile
Those 50k people watch her stream every time, she even put out a schedule yet they can't be bothered to check her channel for stream and would rather ignore it? And I'm pretty sure if you are subbed then the stream will always be on your recommendation when it happen

I don't get it, some Holo members don't put their image in the thumbnail yet a bunch of fans will flock in to watch. But when Salome didn't put her image in the thumbnail, half of her viewers didn't even watch.
Is that a healthy audience at all?

https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1537370362790686720
Miko WWE after Koyori 3D today

>>26207859
This face has been used for so many shitposts I cant take it seriously anymore

>>26208150
Point out another example of a Raid anywhere in the industry within the last month

>>26208158
>>26208206
Half of that stream was doing dumb quiz shit stop smoking dick.

>>26208158
kanata did that solo anniversary live. probably the highest number of song in one live too

>>26208194
OH SHI-

Also: remember in the early days before her debut when people genuinely thought Petra would be the Gura killer for being a competing cunny?
Fun times!

>>26208247
It isn't. It mean more than half of her number are at the mercy of tourists and Youtube recommendation

>>26208258
Pekora using Chloes funnel now Miko using Koyoris. I wonder who is gonna use Laplus's likely 150k

>>26208232
>EOP pandering
literally when

>>26208269
"live"

>>26208274
She might not be a Gura killer but she sure as fuck killed Salami.

>>26208284
finana.

>>26208274
They thought the same for Bae

>>26208238
> her number are very fragile
No one's denying that, her numbers are literally all tourists. Obviously she's gonna filter them eventually, but one stream won't be enough.
Chloe had to read SCs for 2-3 days continuously before her tourists got filtered.

>>26208258
Kek holy based
So this what they call "senpai authority"
>"Your number are my number"
>"Hand it over"
And I'm sure Koyori would happily hand Miko the numbers

>>26208284
Shion

>>26208260
Nijis purple women are shitpost magnets

>>26208258
>A hardcore 35p 3D debut with heavy 35p overlap funneling into a huge Miko buff stream
MIKO GOLD
>MIKO GOLD
MIKO GOLD
>MIKO GOLD

>>26208315
ToT

>>26208308
Nah, they had high hopes for Bae but “Gura Killer” hype like that I only saw it with Petra.

>>26208284
Ayame

>>26208269
>solo
■ゲスト
@Aqua Ch. 湊あくあ
@アキロゼCh。Vtuber/ホロライブ所属
@Mel Channel 夜空メルチャンネル
@Subaru Ch. 大空スバル
@Nene Ch.桃鈴ねね

>>26208284
Marine

>>26208284
Towa

>>26208166
Only numberfags care either way, if viewers aren't interested in a channel they get raided to they just leave
I guess it does confirm that NijiEN care about the peak CCV horse race despite this thread being the only place in the EN sphere that talks about it, which is interesting

>>26208258
Step aside EN nigger, this is what real numbers looks like

>>26208284
There's zero chance Laplus gets 150k. 140k max.

>>26208054
And you will get micomet instead of pekomiko or hoshi no kanata

>>26208364
>you may have called Fulgur a nigger faggot to his face
Feels good man!

>>26208364
MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD

>>26208364
>I guess it does confirm that NijiEN care about the peak CCV horse race despite this thread being the only place in the EN sphere that talks about it, which is interesting
I mean....NijiEN has a number of chuubas who are literally confirmed to be /here/ so that's not really surprising, is it?

>>26208364
makes sense, fulgur is clearly an ex-/#/nigger and he infected the rest of nijiCN with his numberrot

>>26208158
Wasn't one of Watame's lives solo? May have been an anniversary instead of birthday, I'm not sure.

>>26207178

Gura is humble about her numbers . Don't compare her to your bitch Salome . Salome doesn't even care about her senpai .

>>26208258
They saw cracks on Salome's CCV today so they're going ham

>>26208390
Who the fuck care? I see Marine there, if there's Noel to then this will be the first time Sankisei get together again after Rushia incident

>>26208364
comachama..

Gura's Totsu will take place on Sunday, place your bet on which JP members will call in. I'm putting my bets on both Polka and Shuba

>>26208284
Marine is one of the top holos left. So I’ll bet on her

>>26207178
watch mysta if you want celebrations. he does them for every 10k or whatever

>>26208364
>the NijiEN shills are actually the NijiEN livers shitposting when they take a break from streaming
REIMU IF YOU SEE THIS I LOVE YOU, YOU DID NOTHING WRONG, PLEASE CRASH ANOTHER VOX ASMR IT WOULD BE HILARIOIUS

>>26208438
I wish Suisei calls her so we can get blue women cover.

>>26208438
shion's going to ghost her after that embarassing switch sports collab

>>26208438
Miko, Korone, Subaru, Marine, Haachama, Fubuki, Lui, Mel, Watame and Pekora

>>26207887
>>26208061
funny considering this is how you all literally do with nijisanji all the time, huh

>>26208258
she better get 43k today

>>26208477
>Miko call in
No way Pekora will show up. The only time PekoMiko call in to the same birthday was Koyori

>>26208427
>Gura is humble about her numbers
And that's why she's stagnating and will fade into irrelevance while numberfags like Salome, Vox, and Kobo will continue to rise. Numbers are literally the only important metric that matter when you're a streamer.