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What do you think about the impact Coco had on western vtubing?

>> No.26003915

>>26003739
she handpicked myth and for that i will eternally be grateful

>> No.26003978

>>26003915
>t. one Ina's nepotism hires

>> No.26003993

>>26003915
anon she didn't handpick myth she gave her opinons and thoughts on the people that applied. She was very important to its creation but not to the degree you guys keep pretending she was.

>> No.26004014

>>26003739
what impact?

>> No.26004020

>>26003739
Western vtubing was always going to be a thing, just like how when anime got popular all bad (only few good) wannabe manga comics came out. It's the nature of the beast.

>> No.26004084

Well obviously not handpick them specifically but certainly influenced Yagoo to consider certain places in finding the right ones.

>> No.26004146

>>26003915
If that was true which it isn't, that's awfully embarrassing considering the way Mori acted on Coco's meme review....

>> No.26004186

>>26003993
I heard Nyanners applied and Coco specifically advocated against her. No idea if it's just bullshit but it must be a little awkward especially if Nyanners also heard that rumor.

>> No.26004241

>>26004186
BASED

>> No.26004301

>>26004146
I act the same way if I had to look at that awful shit but still wanted my job.

>> No.26004328

>>26004146
Mori is obviously the corporate pick

>> No.26004371

>>26004186
Well considering what happened with Nux. It might have been for the best.

>> No.26004396

coco was based, if only cover wasn’t so strict she could of gotten her mel collab and keep all her talk shows/meme reviews

>> No.26004799
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26004799

ITS V!
https://youtu.be/1I43s0oFbbk

>> No.26004810

>>26003739
Saved Hololive form Chinese money, which is the quickest way to ruin something

>> No.26005083

>>26003739


People don't really think about it now, but her daily 'news' show every morning was hugely influential on the scene. Not just in Japan, but in spreading vtuber content to english speaking parts of the net as well. She basically singlehandedly created the fandom on sites beyond 4chan, for better or worse.

>> No.26006334

>>26003739
some might argue but i genuinely believe that she revolutionized many of the things vtubers do things today.
Asacoco was a gamechanger that gave hololive a huge step to mainstream, she proved that morning timeslot is viable, she introduced Ark to all vtubers, she insisted and proved that there is value in the EN audience, she was the one who started the outfit reveal edging with fan submissions, gave Hololive another publicity by being the top superchat earner, and most of all, saving Hololive from China

>> No.26006463

>>26004146
Anon….I’m gonna be honest here
Reddit meme review is just cringe…
I get you SEAniggers have low standard when it comes to comedy. But Reddit memes are just not it.

>> No.26007413

>>26003739
She was the bridge for Hololive and later Nijisanji to enter EN market. Tbh even without her Hololive still finding success in China given how Aqua and early gens was extremely popular over there. Coco just opened a different path for Hololive and they choose to follow that direction.

>> No.26007716

>>26007413
I wished she could have continue to be part of that journey...I will never forgive OnegaZhang

>> No.26007938

>>26003739
The pillar of the bridge
The pioneer of the Hololive

>> No.26008994

>>26003739
Literally none. There are only a couple people continuing to shill her to keep this "image" they have of her alive rather than accepting she is bridge under the water.

>> No.26012066

>>26003739
Now that I think about it, she's smart. The moment when she graduates were the moment when JP market has become so oversaturated and EN market starting to recline. She saw no future in continuing with an agency and split the profits with them.

Fast forward nearly one year now JP chuubas are cannibalizing each other's fans, and EN reclining hard. Only ID is inclining but that has nothing to do with Coco and no one could've predicted that last year.

Maybe she was right, leaving agencies now is better because there's no growth anymore in this industry if you're a JP or EN chuuba.

>> No.26012251

>>26003739
I respected Coco, but I have to say "bad influence"

It gives the wrong impression of acting like Coco will make you famous too.

>> No.26012354

>>26012066
the JP market is still going strong wtf are you talking about
Only the EN market has been stagnating

>> No.26012371

>>26012251
i see a lot of indie chuubas copying what she did in their own markets (in my case, for cantonese vtubers) and that shit still works. if the formula aint' broke, don't fix it.

>> No.26012436

>>26003739
What has she done of note with her newfound freedom from corporate clutches? I'm not trying to dunk on her, last time I bothered to look was when the board was spammed with some chaturbate collab with some literal prostitute

>> No.26012613

Nah Vtubing is still thriving everywhere just not in the West.

>> No.26013299

>>26006334
Morning streams were a thing even before Asacoco, Ark is irrelevant now, kinda agree on EN thing, idc about the outfit reveal since not many vtubers do it, Hololive was always the top SC earner, before her Aqua was the top earner.
Revolutionize is too much for what she did

>> No.26013663

>>26013299
sure bro, I'd rather trust the anime girl.
https://youtu.be/7629AQmzT-4

>> No.26014052

>>26004371
>nux
Fuck what happened. Worse would have been she got in and actually talked to that faggot.
There's a good reason Cover doesn't let parasites like him near their talent.

>> No.26014229

>>26003739
Newfags who weren't here when she still did Asacoco don't realize the impact it had. Its probably the most clipped and translated segments of all Holo content, and it helped to introduce nearly every HoloJP members to the western audience during a time when we had a really dive in to discover JP talents, because of non-existent English support.

>> No.26015242

>>26003739
Directly
>Almost singlehandedly responsible for spreading vtubers in the west, which helped introduce me to my oshi. Very good.
>Genuinely had new and creative ideas, which helped others feel inspired and create new and creative things. Good.
>Got China to fuck off. Always good.
>Inspired Holo en. Good in theory, pretty bad in execution, most are less than good.
Indirectly
>As a result of introducing vtubing in the west and then getting nixed, allowed other "people" to become the new defacto inspiration for western vtubers. Most of these being "people" like Mori or the twitter tranny vtuber crowd who are all absolute garbage. Very bad.
>Now very lazy and uninspired, doesn't produce anything near what she used to and hangs out with actual prostitutes, further contributing to the last point. Just sad really.
I wish she'd have gotten to stick around and worked within Covers limits, because "creative freedom" clearly isn't working out for her. That and she probably wouldn't be hanging out with such disgusting people and making such terrible decisions.

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26015898

Asacoco was THE SHIT, man i miss it

>> No.26016306

>>26015242
More or less this. She's always been lazy as fuck (meme reviews are the laziest content ever devised) but it's only gotten worse as she's ridden the e-girl whore train. I couldn't give a shit about any impact she had on anything otherwise. She's always been a bland streamer that got by off 1) her large breasted model and after 2) whoring her actual body

>> No.26018530

>>26003739
still jack off to her from time to time.

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>>26003739

>> No.26021578
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26021578

don't know don't care
do your reps and watch nips

>> No.26021661

>>26004186
She shot down nyanners but gave the ok on mori lol

>> No.26022026
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26022026

I miss this bitch like you wouldn't believe.

>> No.26024280

>>26003739
We need more chuubas without noses

>> No.26024335

>>26021661
Mori is miles better than vshojo whores

>> No.26024358

she popularized vtubing further among insufferable redditors with consistently awful memes

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26024636

>>26022026
gO wAtCh KsOn, iT's ThE sAmE pErSon
>No

>> No.26024695 [DELETED] 

>>26004146
>>26004146
Nyanners is 4chan and Coco id Reddit. Natural opposites.

>> No.26024758

>>26003739
she *literally* created the entirety of modern vtubing in the west, her legacy is as big as Kizuna AI.

I honestly expect historians to finally give her credit to it. People, specially new that started with EN and clipwatchers, have zero experience with the world before her.

>> No.26024862

>>26004186
It sounds like Nyanners and Sen would have shaped up Western VTubing to their image if not for Coco's intervention.

>> No.26024877

>>26003739
literally minimal, hololive english was the sole reason vtubers became popular over here

>> No.26025033

>>26021661
Imagine Nyanners with one of the Myth models.

>> No.26026505

>>26024862
Literally who and who

>> No.26026880

>>26003739
She had a big impact on Hololive by encouraging holos to embrace memes and to promote each other. She had little impact on the vtubing community if you don't count the impact Hololive itself has
Her fans and antis were both annoying though. At least her fans have moved on to her roommate and keep to themselves, her antis are STILL frothing at the mouth about her to this day

>> No.26027299

She brought in normalfags and snowflakes.

>> No.26029734
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26029734

>>26024877
and who pushed for hololive English?

>> No.26029849

>>26013299
>Morning streams were a thing even before Asacoco,
No morning streams reached 20k viewers a day.

>> No.26029959

>>26013299
>before her Aqua was the top earner.
Aqua being a top earner didn't mean anything back then because her earnings weren't really that big. Just compare what Aqua earned to the likes of Rushia and Coco. It's like night and day.

>Revolutionize is too much for what she did
So you're just a retarded newfag in the end who didn't know what she did. Got it.

>> No.26030131

>>26024877
>literally minimal
Retard. Most of the 2020-2021 vtubers you see today were all inspired by Coco. If you ask any westoid vtuber if they knew who kiryu coco was, they would 99% say yes. The other 1% who would say no are all newfaggots who are just riding the wave because of HoloEN.

>> No.26030694

She was pretty admirable, she did push for a mel collab which would honestly be kino if cover wasn’t retarded

>> No.26030829

>>26003739
without coco there would be no holoEN.
without holoEN there would be no western vtubing.

>> No.26031002

>>26026505
The second is very famous.

>> No.26031010

>>26029734
Would've happened with or without Coco.

>> No.26031032

>>26003739
This whore bought Mori to hololive

>> No.26031131

>>26016306
Reddit Shitpost Reviews came into existence because it was supposingly a pain to get Manager approvement for many things in Asacoco.
But her being lazy and burnt out from Asacoco was also a thing.
She mainly understood that she does not have to put in more effort because of diminishing returns and can just ride the wave of popularity until the bank runs dry. This is pretty much the streaming meta since Just Chatting became a thing.

>> No.26031373

>>26030829
>without holoEN there would be no western vtubing
Veibae was quickly growing in popularity before HoloEN debut so that's wrong. Others like Sėnzawa were also quite popular.

>> No.26031852

>>26003915
>she picked Kiara
>the most well known biggest slut and hated in Japan
Did Coco expect her to fail?

>> No.26031931

>>26031373
lol no

>> No.26031992

>>26003739
No impact at all, she has always been irrelevant. Korone had more impact than her.

>> No.26032353

>>26012436
she now spends most of her time saviorfagging small vtubers

>> No.26032403

>>26031931
Checked twitch tracker it was exponential growth for both of them.

>> No.26032508

>>26031852
All members of Myth had confirmed boyfriends before joining it, excepting Kiara. Maybe Coco did that as a joke.

>> No.26032601

>>26003739
Gigguk wouldn't have gotten so much into VTubers without her.

>> No.26032838

>>26003739
She paved the way for Luxiem's success

>> No.26032905

>>26003739
She caused the death of hololive by denying them the lucrative chinese market

>> No.26033166

>>26032905
Also, game permissions.

>> No.26034074

>>26032905
greetings, traveler from west Taiwan

>> No.26036947

>>26032508
And Kiara is one of the most hated figures in Japan internet history kek.

>> No.26037141

>>26015242
I do feel that's what she wanted, didnt she wanted to collab with melody even before when she was in holo

>> No.26037318

>>26032905
ah look someone from the land of the jokes, west taiwan

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