/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>88,559: Salome (Nijisanji)
>54,022: Marine (Hololive)
>49,190: Dola (Nijisanji)
>49,055: Dola (Nijisanji)
>44,682: Ryushen (Nijisanji)
>44,240: Chaika (Nijisanji)
>44,151: Ryushen (Nijisanji)
>42,065: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>41,301: Subaru (Hololive)
>37,788: Chaika (Nijisanji)
>37,735: Kou (Nijisanji)
>37,578: Chaika (Nijisanji)
>34,858: Miko (Hololive)
>28,629: Kiara (Hololive)
>26,518: Sister Claire (Nijisanji)
>26,356: Suzuki Masaru (Nijisanji)
>26,321: kyoko todoroki (Nijisanji)
>24,720: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>22,588: Momo (Nijisanji)
>22,433: Ike (Nijisanji)
>22,289: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,708: Lamy (Hololive)
>20,312: Suzuki Masaru (Nijisanji)
>19,564: Botan (Hololive)
>19,483: Roboco (Hololive)
>18,902: Okayu (Hololive)
>18,887: Kou (Nijisanji)
>17,377: Gatchman (Indie)
>16,657: Momo (Nijisanji)
>16,222: Kronii (Hololive)
>15,303: Hal (Neo Porte)
>14,050: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>13,060: Elira (Nijisanji)
>12,103: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,943: Noel (Hololive)
>11,152: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,638: Laplus (Hololive)

>>26018840
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349 - 3D debut
10) Salome (Nijisanji) - 71,690 - English study
11) Salome (Nijisanji) - 78,179 - Resident Evil 7
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 88,559 - Resident Evil 7

>PER COMPANY
8x: Nijisanji
4x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
8x: Salome
1x: Haachama, Iroha, Mio, Watame

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
107x: Hololive
47x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko, Salome
11x: Kuzuha
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

ah peace

>>26012682
>Likes for music are roughly proportional to views even across fanbases
Needs more data points but I didn't expect that. Means we should be able to very roughly estimate that Gura's cover had about 500k real views at the time of this screenshot.

Alright, we're slow and far out enough that it'll make it interesting.
GIMME CHLOE PREDICTIONS

>>26019118
145k

In "lower numbers but inclining"
Hiyori Lara, Yura's favorite 3view is doing a 100 songs stream.
https://youtu.be/bLunQFDZUbU
~400 viewers

>>26019118
110K

>>26019118
I'll give a modest prediction of 130+k but it might go up until 150+k, SC 8M yen

>>26019118
152k if she doesn't stall.
134k if she does, or the stream laggs.

>>26019110
The comments though, JP doesn't comment that much compared to EN.

>>26019226
Will Cover censor her tits last minute?

>>26019247
Though I agree that it does seem Japanese viewers comment less, it may not be the only factor. There could also be a selection bias. EOP will listen to JP music, possibly Like it, but not comment. Doubly so an EOP magnet like Suisei.

>>26019118
130k

Why do so many people call HoloEarth an MMO? I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere official that it's anything other than a sandbox game, I've noticed this happening in news articles about it but it's always totally unsourced.

>>26019254
Nah, it's fine.

>>26019118
Should be higher than Iroha

verification starting to pick up speed

>>26019118
130k

>>26019486
what a beautiful staircase

>>26019340
>EOP magnet like Suisei
Is she really?

>>26019118
Minimum : 110k+
Expected : 120k+
Kneel territory : 130k+

>>26019486
site?

>>26019730
it's in the pic

>>26019683
yeah her music really appeals EOPs
that's definitely why she's getting tons of views, same with p-maru, mafumafu and popular jpops in general

>>26019683
>suisei doing anything what is not Japanese heavy
>from 20k-35k depends on stream
>suisei doing zatsudan
>around 10k
You don't even need hard data to tell this.

Does GuraxShion have 137M yet?

>>26020309
not yet

>>26019118
120k

>>26019373
Because it was marketed as a metaverse thing and in the public's mind metaverse is just a fancy term for mmo

>>26020309
give it a week or two

>>26019118
160k

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>26020309
Go make it 138 million anon.

>>26020635
where's the volume graph?

>>26020603
In fairness HoloEarth is looking like an actual game compared to what's typically seen as a metaverse currently.

>>26020635
Too bad there is no short availability on Interactive Brokers.

>>26020635
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>26020603
isn't metaverse more like secondlife 2?

>>26020635
SELL SELL SELLL SELL SELL

>4 buffs + 1 Neutral (LN)
Nice

>>26020681
>actual game
>literal fetchquest simulator with unity store animations
>all holos get a sword instead of having unique stuff representative of them
>best stuff you can make are literal fortnite houses
>actual game

On a least important news:
Tokyo Idol Festival ASIA TOUR 2022 today will include a V-Tuber section (Jun 13th 20:30頃〜 JST)

>>26020725
Actual, serious Metaverses are closer to Fortnite in structure. Whatever the fuck FB was trying to pull, wasn't a proper Metaverse despite popularizing the term

>>26020744
>all holos get a sword
fubuki has a fucking bazooka in demo lol

>>26020738
Moving isn't a stream anon...

>>26020753
BKN49? Thailand?

>>26020753
go MiMi go!

>>26020793
wdym, moving to my house is a buff. I'm gonna keep her womb full every day.

>>26020753
Who's in it?

>>26020753
>idols
>no holos
ngmi

>mea
lmao

>>26020635
So what are the rules of disclosure in Japan? I.e. if board or ceo dumps shares do they have to disclose it before, during, in financial documents later or not at all?

>>26020744
That's probably a side effect of 'This is a crafting game and you can use whatever weapons you have equipped, so move sets are character agnostic' and 'this game isn't even in beta, there's still placeholder textures everywhere' give it two more years before you start seriously doomsaying it.

Why is it that Gura's growth after 2 years seems healthier than Kizuna Ai's growth? Gura is still steadily gaining 10k week after week.

>>26020810
see >>26020827
Somehow Mea got in but no Holos did

>>26020828
They probably have to disclose it, but it's not important right now because there's a lock out on selling by all the people who already held stock before the IPO for 6 months

>>26020827
>>26020865
holos talent fees are out of their budget prisu andastand

>>26020858
Well Gura didn't get involved in a massive scandal that took her off the air for nine months, for one

Does Chloe have any chance at all to beat Fuwa's 3D SC?

>>26020635
Is the stock falling so soon a normal thing for a new company?

>>26020827
>>26020865
So nobody of interest, gotcha

>>26020934
Stabilizing after the initial hype, It's only going to trend downwards so prepare your anykara doomposts

>>26020933
Nah, pretty hard to reach $144k at the current yen rate. Fuwa at the time was 0.0091 yen for 1 dollar. Now it's 0.0074 yen for 1 dollar lmao. Wtf it decreased by another 0.0003. Japan, open up already.

>>26020933
What is this question? Of course she does. HoloX is riding on the back of a Holobox as strong as its ever been, she's the most skilled gachibaiter I've ever seen, it's a 3D live and she's going second so people's money hasn't been exhausted yet but their hype is still at its peak.

I wouldn't be surprised if Chloe made it her personal goal today to break the record for SCs

>>26020973
Anykara can just pump more numbers into Salome to get the stock to go up again. They are the biggest vtuber comapny after all.

>>26021021
0.0091 dollar for 1 yen
$1 for 134 yen now, previously, $1 for 110 yen in June 21

>>26021062
They don't even need to pump anything, all stocks eventually go up unless the company is a trashfire.

>>26021023
you are delusional to think chloe will get anywhere close to this

>>26021093
nice grudgepost setup, retard

I haven't been following the scene, who the fuck is thid Salome?

>>26021093
Anonchama...

>>26021093
I'm going to donate $20k just to make you seethe

>>26021021
Why wouldn't you just go by yen for people that are going to get mostly yen?

In order to break the Fuwa's SC record, Chloe needs 20m Yen in Superchats.

She already has 2m from the fucking waiting room.

>>26021131
Numbers new queen

>>26021131
Nijibots

>>26021159
she'll need to keep the mask on, take off the hoodie, shake them boobies, and show pits.

>>26021093
Cmon anon, use the biggest one for this

>>26021158
Do you really think shitposters care about using yen for yen? SC ranking had always been based on USD.

>>26021093
Why? Fuwa isn't that popular

>>26021093
Isn't this guy supposed to be a gigolo? No wonder he got that much holy shit. Yeah I don't think Chloe will outearn him but there's a chance she'll out-ccv him. How many people tuned in for his 3D?

>>26021206
rumao, Fuwa is fujo magnet in Niji he just doesn't blatantly pander like Vox.

If Chloe beats Salome then I will never watch Niji again

>>26021093
>>26021200
Holobros, it's fucking over.... Chloe was our only chance to get the 3D SC record...

>>26020635
>>nooooooooooo my house my carrrrrrrrrrrr.

>>26020753
Huh. One member from MaRiNaSu still on leave?

>>26021159
Idk Fuwa and Gaku might have 5 million from their waiting room?

>>26021206
>Why?
Months of concentrated hype with Tokyo Ghoul and Hayato.

>>26021268
Are you stupid? Salome isn't even streaming on the same days as the 3Ds, she specifically dodged both Iroha's and Chloe's, and would have lost if they were on the same days

>>26021277
> 10K $ in 1million sub stream .
>nijinig : kneel

>>26021167
Why is she getting high numbers what's so special about her?

>>26021315
>she specifically dodged both Iroha's and Chloe's
Nijisanji should really stop coming /here/

>>26021238
I think Chloe has a chance to beat him in CCV but even that it will be hard.

>Fuwa Minato 143,270

If you're wondering what happened to female niji graduates,
https://mobile.twitter.com/244__/status/1536038140477345792/photo/1

What the fuck is this

>>26021336
Nijibots

>>26021394
You can just check her new channel anon

>>26020753
I will fully admit to not following the idol industry at all but...
Hasn't Hololive, and by extension all big vtubers, vastly exceeded everyone here except arguably AKB48 or BNK48 as a whole? I spent the last twenty minutes looking up social medias and we're talking people who max out at 150k YT subs and 200k twitter followers. It really shows how badly the numberrot has affected my brain.

Hell, Kagura Mea herself might actually be the most famous individual performing.

>>26021388
Damn Nijimales are fucking strong. I definitely overestimated Holox.

>>26021396
Kimera cover

>>26021394
How much for one night?

>>26021336
All bots

>>26021396
Sorry you to know about it like this anon, she's announcing our marriage since she's pregnant with our baby, hope you understand.

>>26021436
Streamers are fucking powerful and they are getting stronger every day. Virtual idols are the way of the future because there's just no competition, flesh idols can't beat them at all

>>26021436
akb48 at their peak beats Hololive, but that's only for Japan. Hololive is bigger globally now.

Matsuri trash number 1.5K

LOL

>>26021556
anon... it's just been 3 minutes since she started.

Since Saturday, Hololive has been on fire. Do you think they are planning for something big in the summer?

>>26021529
>Virtual idols are the way of the future
Unironically this, much of what is hated about idols from the west in regards to parasocial stuff and worship suits internet personalities perfectly while also being way more accessible.

Yesterdays real tally doko

>>26021592
Bringing back the glorious Hololive summer.

>>26021581
Vtuber less than 3K CCV = trash holobron

>>26020603
Well a P2W MMO, the kind that sullied the genre.

>>26020836
They used footage of Sora with a fucking sword man, that just screams to me that the team doesn't really know or care about character lore.

https://youtu.be/7KAxn-iE3ss

Asmongold reacted to HoloEarth. We going mainstream boys

not like this... gura songs are done

>>26021437
You'd think so, but they just make a bigger thing out of events. Nijisanji has some interesting tourist habits.

>>26021596
also avoids having to physically expose their talents to fans in case of more semen handshake incidents.

>>26021671
She has been depicted with a sword before, what do you suggest that she fights with? A piano?

>>26021698
he hates vtubers tho kek

>>26021671
Utterly confusing post. What about Sora exactly says she can't use a sword? It's probably the actual equivalent of holding a stone sword in Minecraft

>>26021733
I've heard him speak positively about Pekora

>>26021336
JP normie market apparently
also bot cope

>>26021640
I wonder what platform they'll do it in.
Could they use swimsuit models in HoloAss?

>>26021647
typo

* i mean 5K*

>>26021671
Isn't using a sword part of her character depiction on HoloGra?

>>26021733
a more correct description would be that he finds them weird. xqc hates anything that is different though.

>>26021732
>>26021737
fucking magic, or musical notes or something. Swinging around a sword just doesn't match her character image, she's more of a mage/bard.

I'm still convinced HoloEarth is just a scam to raise VC money.

>>26021803
>xqc hates anything that is different though
But he said he was a Vtuber

>>26021733
Not quite what was said, and also lets be fair to twitch streamers, their exposure to vtubers is mostly coming from the assorted indies + Vshojo first rather than Hololive or NijiJP.

>>26021821
Baffling post

>>26021829
I feel legitimately bad for anyone who's first experience of vtubers wasn't hololive.

>>26021798
that was a section of "pen drawing comes to life" with a cursed sword, so not exactly canon even within hologra.

So? What do you DO in HoloEarth? Like, what's the "gameplay"?

>>26021671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeWMT2PVhE0

>>26021776
This is almost certainly one of their plans, they literally said they want to use HoloEarth for Events, probably VR stuff too like that one concert where you could pat Watame's head

>>26021875
Main attraction is meeting the girls

>>26021396
秘密だよ

>>26021851
>I feel legitimately bad for anyone who wasn't watching Hololive before Holocaust.

>>26021907
Man those fucking Peko MGS threads were an absolute blast...

>>26021878
This was one of the best Hologra

>>26019946
When was the last time Suisei even did a pure zatsudan? Most, if not all her zatsudans are during her Tetris/Mario Kart streams which easily get 20k+. I won't even count the yakiniku zatsudan since that was a return from break stream. So where the fuck are you pulling the 10k zatsudans from anywhere but your ass?

HoloEarth revenue in 1 y = 5,000,000,000$ +
>i think

Now that HoloEarth is gaining attention from the NA side, do think OTV or OTK group from Twitch might play it in the future?

>>26021967
why are we speculating about a game that will still take at least a couple more years to come out?

>>26021955
>More than genshin
I doubt it

>>26021955
depends on what they do for the monetization. And ofc, what game play there actually is.

>>26021811
Shut up bitch

>>26021955
>>2,500,000,000 - 3,000,0000,000 $

HoloEarth will be the thing that kills Hololive. There is no way the game will even approach AAA quality. It will be garbage and destroy the Hololive brand.

>>26021875
>>26021896
What do you do in ARK? You have to remember, this is practically the dream game of Fubuki. It's a crafting and building game with survival elements. It feels almost like Fubuki decided to became a fucking game director and Cover gave her 5 mil as a budget.

There's probably going to be tamable dinosaurs, like come on think about what has been shown, Fubuki's taste in games, and then consider what else would be in HoloEarth.

>>26021967
>OTV or OTK
Whoa are even these people? I guess one of them is that one with the pimply nerd and blueballed molester, but what is the other?

>>26021792
HAHAHAHA BACKTRACKING FAGGOT
You actually like Matsuri to even be bothering

HoloEarth or Anykara IPO, which one is more important to the vtuber industry?

>>26021896
And how are they gonna do that? Do I
>Talk to a NPC of my oshi who gonna ask me to kill 5 boars.
>Actually meet and talk to her (after joining a virtual queue and probably have to pay some ticket)
>Roll for my Oshi as a character and gets her voicelines (assuming it's a gacha)

>>26022003
smw chronicle + minecraft + NFT

>>26022054
Why would it want to approach AAA tier? The scope of the game itself is simple, the main attraction is always the girls.

>>26022054
Dumbass, even blatant scams with terrible marketing that don't even work can make huge profit. It's impossible to lose money on digital game development unless your game never even comes out

>>26022065
Neither of them really, holoearth has the possibility of becoming the literal box of hololive if it goes well, Nijisanji... well they have some more money down the line but with no indication whatsoever on what they plan to spend it on.

>>26022065
Cover is a walled garden, but the influence they bring is good for the industry. Your best bet for the industry would be whatever anykara would be using their money for. If they're doing gacha, then all hopes is lost.

>>26022111
Embezzlement

just Gacha and Costume bro

>>26022065
depends what Anycolor does with their investors money

>>26022054
Look up Neptunia, people will buy literal drivel as long as it has a cool concept and has cute girls in it

If we're talking about "idol journey" in Hololive, isn't Cover technically having an idol journey as well?
From a simple VR company that makes a ping pong game, the company switched to vtubing and then inclind like crazy after hardships at the beginning.
Now, they are investing the money to create a game with a big scope like HoloEarth.

>>26022065
At the moment, the IPO since it's actually going to have a big impact within a half-year since if it's an actual pump-and-dump, that spells the beginning of the end for Anycolor as shareholders attempt to squeeze EVERY last bit of value out of it instead of a more sustainable model. If it's not a pure pumpandump my doomposting isn't warranted, but I'm not optimistic.

>>26022126
Chink

>>26022054
AAA games don't make much money

>>26022029
> wrong Sora

>>26022148
>Neptunia
Franchise died so hard you forgot they already put hololive into it

>>26022054
elaborate?
or I guess you're just shitposting away.

>>26022054
AAA games are shit, half the time they don't even work. Small indies are where it's at. It would be good if HoloEarth would have simple but satisfying mechanics with Holomems for meme purposes.

>>26020635 < ANS
>>26022065

>>26022146
It's really not a lot of money. They gonna make at most as much as Youtube paid Sykkuno, 30 million

>>26020738
A watchalong is a strong debuff

>>26022227
it's a pretty consistent income

>>26021792
Ooooohhh even when backtracking she still got you there buddy

Imagine if Anykara uses the money to create the ultimate games that involves not only all Nijisanji branches, but also big indies.
Basically, it's still gacha but the whole vtuber industry is in on it, with P-Maru, Siro, Mirai, Gorrila, etc. And of course Salome, Kuzuha, Fuwa, Vox, Selene and Mika.
However, there will be Hololive since they have their own game.

>>26020738
anon?
watchalong - debuff
duolingo - debuff
propnight - buff
ln - debuff

>>26022263
Nijisanji have trouble enough involving their own talents, to include everyone is a herculean task.

>>26020738
Who the fuck is snot

>>26022312
The Gura crew

>>26022263
It would probably flop hard since Gacha fail all the time. They aren't just free money, people lose interest fast if they're not actually good IPs and constantly updated. It would also take fucking forever to finagle all the rights and get it programmed. HoloEarth started earlier so it will probably finish earlier too, even if you started right now and only took 2 years of dev time to shit it out

>>26022202
it's gonna be genshin and you know it

>>26022312
shark nature owl time

>>26022334
Well, I guess that's a flop too since Gura is the biggest flop of all the existing flops.

>>26022177
>>26022202
I agree. Triple A studios basically spend 1 million dollars making a piece of shit game in a year, 10 million dollars advertising it, and then 2 years and 100 million dollars making every face have 100 billion polygons so it looks photorealistic.

>>26022191
It still had long period of popularity and made tons of money, plus it mostly died because they ran out of ideas and basing their side characters on actual game companies lead to a bunch of ip rights issues.

>>26022366
No, Craftopia/Palworld, get it right

>>26022065
If HoloEarth have luck and become mainstream like smw,pubg,fate,genshin

>>26022392
NIjiseethe

>>26022384
That's stupid
>>26022400
I don't mind too much how things are right now, if they have a good history with games then releasing old stuff keeps them profitable while they create the new stuff

>>26022263
I dont think anykara plans for any long term projects. So creating a game and sustaining it would not be something thry would ever consider imo

Neptunia had a fucking tie in anime, and many many video games despite being made by a small studio and probably being less profitable than Hololive is

So genuine question, do the "improvements" to pajeet code and view verification mean that Gura's 10hr 1M song views will never be topped?
Its been 8 hours, and the cover is STILL staircasing its view increases.

>>26022448
How do you k ow Anykara doesn't have any? Maybe these projects are secrets. They are not the biggest vtuber company bybeing short sighted

>>26022448
they should make a niji pachinko since they are buddies with Konami, perfect for each other

>>26022480
the best way is to have a redirect from a high ccv stream like how Marine's live redirected to the MV, and she reached 1M very fast

>>26022421
I wouldn't go that far, but I think it could at least be second place to Genshin. Who knows it might become the next Kancolle

>>26022410
They made money because their games cost peanuts to develop. That shit may flies in the '10 but the same argument won't apply to holoearth due to the amount of investments behind. Of course, HoloEarth can still be very profitable, as long as they make a quality product, just don't go under the assumption that "it has anime girl so it will automatically succeed"

Matsuri 6K in monhun umm , just leave apex .

>>26021436
Kinda grim. Imagine training your whole life to be a real stage idol, having to deal with the casting couch, carefully maintaining your looks, and then you're forced to graduate in a few years when you're discarded for the newer, younger, model.
And meanwhile an alcoholic white woman with a beer belly who cant even sing half as well as you can blows past your popularity in a single year.

>>26022506
Pachinko makes way too much sense.

>>26022557
how come this thread kept saying it was a debuff game

>>26022525
JP seem to not be nearly as effected by verification bullshit.
I'd put money down on the Platinum Disco cover reaching 500k a lot faster than Renai Circulation, but RC will hit 1M faster

>>26022065
The anycolor IPO doesn't do anything to the vtuber industry unless anycolor uses the extra money to advance things which they have shown no indication of yet. Meanwhile in an interview Yagoo talked about holoearth and how they want to expand it as part of their metaverse platform to break free of the shackles of current platforms for events/concerts etc which they will allow others to use as well.

>>26022557
Preasu understando, she's a retarded mehara who wants to break away from Holo and make it on her own merits though she seems to be lining herself up to be back in the HoloBox again.

>>26022583
> I dislike the game = it's a debuff content

>>26022583
It gets tourists but hardcore holofans have seen too much of it.
I'd say its a buff for those under 10k viewers normally, debuff for those over 10k

so we're a week away from Gura's birthday, I don't think we're getting a schedule like this, are we

>>26022574
if you put it that way, it really is a grim fate to behold

>>26022500
Its been fucking years. It'd be a great time to tease something with all this hype and money surrounding their IPO to drive up the numbers.

>>26022549
While true, the development costs will probably still be indie level. And it will probably make way more than it cost to produce due to marketing, this shit is years out and by the time it's done it will have hit 10 million views on both of its current PVs, and the talents will have hyped it up way more too.

Marketing sells games and Hololive has pretty good marketing honestly

Game buff> Anime buff> Manga buff> Game........

>Cover plan

>>26022500
They aren't the biggest youtuber agency at all. Furthermore, we have quite a lot of evidence they are very short sighted.

>>26022654
I'm also not big into idol culture, but I always remember how the lady that played Mako Mori in Pacific Rim got ostracized for "skipping" the normal idol/actress ladder, where you're apparently supposed to be an idol and work your way up to being in film

>>26022650
when was the last time gura had a schedule
genuine question i dont watch gura

>>26022574
Holy shit that's fucked. I never really thought about it.

>>26021394
or, you know, you can just watch her Kingdom Hearts stream from yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-kPeaRQKsg
What's with tons of duet covers these days

>>26022726

>>26022500
Because nijifans keep saying they're making money hand over fist for years and years yet they haven't done any big projects. All they seem to care about is coming up with shows to put on the main channel and farming out the talents to earn the company money.

>>26022615
>which they will allow others to use as well.
Did he really say this? Because this sounds like the perfect answer to this anon's question.

>>26019118
140k

>>26022780
>1 month ago
this brat needs correction

>>26022772
AZKi wants to do a duet with all holomem that she can since apparently INNK were fucktards about that kind of thing before.

Remember, Hololive isn't just making one game. Aqua is getting a dating sim made with her as the love interest for example, and that's probably the first of many. The manga is also taking form, all of this is part of HoloAlt. Multimedia means not putting all the eggs in one basket, and Cover is using every basket

Just you wait, the next big thing for Hololive will be tie in dating sims and published light novels featuring them, promoted through the Holo's shilling them at events you payed to attend. Suisei literally did that at Vcarnival

The worst part, you will have to dig through every single one for lore, because all of it will be part of the extended universe. It will be worse than Fate lore

>>26022813
Yeah I distinctly remember it but it was months ago so I don't remember where it was to post it.

>>26019118
Probably 130k

>>26022841
>The worst part, you will have to dig through every single one for lore
we don't care about lore here, at most it's used for people to shitpost about

>>26022686
It's not really a requirement but if you plan to go into entertainment it will help a long way even if you never make it big, there is a reason they "graduate" and go on to other ventures instead of "retiring".

>>26022841
Who cares about video game lore, you kill boars to gain exp.

>>biggest vtuber industry
#1 Hololive
#2 VSPO
#3 NIJISANJI

>>26022841
>Aqua is getting a dating sim
Is this a third-party game dev using Cover's IP like Evil God Korone or Cover collaborated with a game dev company to make Aqua VN?

>>26022841
>Cover is using every basket
Good thing then that the worlds most foremost basket weaving forum has their eyes on this development.

>>26022549
Anon they got TAnaka Rie and Ueda kana to voice their main characters, it's not that cheap to develop

>>26022898
>https://twinfinite.net/2022/06/minato-aqua-visual-novel-aquarium/
>The game apparently doesn’t only feature Minato Aqua as the heroine but she also covered the role of producer.

>>26022841
>tie in dating sims
Will never happen because it'll create schizos that will make the current ones seem tame. Aqua's already taking a big risk as is, I don't see it working out for other Holos.

>>26022886
There still needs to be some world building to make it more marketable. Se Riot for example each champ has lore but connects and builds around each other. And now they are dabbling into more trad meddia of music and shows with KDA and Arcane. KDA and Arcane wouldnt be as successful without the background world, but both mediums easily accessible and digestable to people who never played League

>>26022574
>meanwhile an alcoholic white woman with a beer belly who cant even sing half as well as you
such an accurate definition of Lamy

>>26022919
KEK

>>26022966
>white

>>26022963
No it doesn't. You just need to be able to kill players with less experience than you, that is the soul of video gaming.

>>26022937
>she also covered the role of producer.
Something tells me that she just got that role handed to her.

Hololive cards and license

> profit or loss

>>26022963
one thing I want to see is how much loreschizos will bother the talents during their streams, because some of them barely has a defined character but I don't see that being the case in a game

MATSURI STARTING TO BELIEVE

>>26023003
Hololive already released cards

>>26023003
>Hololive Suica/Pasmo/Icoca
I'll buy it

>>26023003

You mean signed ?

1,500$ for suisei signed

>>26023006
Some of them know how to have fun with it. Ame pulled the time traveler stuff out of her ass, but it's been basically canonized now, for example

>>26022974
she is tho

>>26023070
WTF ? Really ??

>>26023100
I mean, if you're going to play that "game" just buy MtG cards, until WotC breaks the reserved list the cards in it will just keep going up in value.

https://twitter.com/RedBullGamingJP/status/1536272168480301056?t=N0NvLMRDb8cDH0M-5ZfnNg&s=19
BOTAN ON THE TELLY

>>26023128
HAG DOMINATION

>Chloe 3D + Getting the news of being hired today
Feels good

>>26023100

>>26023100
Umm https://twitter.com/ds_sannomiya/status/1484047406945685519?s=21&t=X88PfKPkRebVwwbqRjf1Ng

Marine 2250 $

>>26020753
1 vietnam vtuber got in!?

>>26023263

https://tcgrepublic.com/product/product_page_2000239301.html

>>26023267
No. If there was one I would have already see news all over the place
t.viet

Were there instances of niji cards being resold for a high price?

>>26021023
as much as i love chloe, i think it's a bit hard since her birthday and this 3d live is so close with each other, should have give the fans 3 months gap to actually gather the real power of holobox

>>26023256
Hey anon, I'm happy for you, congratulations, hope you make it in life, cheers.

>>26023288
she's here akatsuki Ban mai

>youtube has a most replayed timestamps now
Cool beans, now I can sift through a bunch of vtuber songs and figure out in 10 seconds if they're good or not.

>>26023281

>>26021437
they only get good numbers of sc and views in events like this, in normal days they are nowhere to be seen

>>26023316
Wtf that's actually her. I didn't even recognize
Guess we don't care about idol stuff that much

>>26023257

Current Price

Suisei 3,100$ +100% in 5 month

>>26023315
Thanks anon, I already gave up on the job applications here and applied to pursue masters after graduating bachelors. Didn't think I got it.

>>26023333
>>26023257
And people act like a Holo gacha wouldn't fucking break records

>>26023331
The feature doesn't seem to work that well for songs. Most of the ones I've seen end up looking like this

>>26023257
>>26023333
Coco and Rushia cards' price go high in time due to nostalgic factor since there's not gonna be that card anymore

>>26023333

Ez money

Matsuri 7.1 K OMGGGGG

>>26023070
>>26023257
and people still think there's a chance holoearth will flop

>>26022263

>>26023333
>Botan $72.50
and a bunch more proofs that Gen5 sluts are fucking irrelevant

>>26023456
'member release FFXIV. no matter how big the brand behind something is, if it sucks hard enough it will flop

>>26022263
>Imagine
Call me when it become reality

>>26023436
Amazingly, if no other Holo is streaming, some people will put up with Matsuri. Will be curious to see how far she falls after Koyo and Kanatan start up in a half-hour.

>>26022500
we already know what they did with their success in 2018-19.
> ACCELERATE
into new markets.
Also just hearing about their financial situation being in dire straights after one fest delay/cancellation, and then immediately announcing IPO... it kinda implies that they're quite shit at managing money (or aren't making as much as they say).
And of course, HoloAlt has been a project since early 2020, and has shown progress over the years. While there's absolutely zero signs that Niji is doing anything remotely similar.

Chloe has made ~20k/~150k needed to beat Fuwa in Superchats before the stream has started.

For contrast, Fuwa made ~25k in the first 10 minutes of his stream. Iroha during her 3D made ~35k during the whole thing, and only ~1k was before the stream started, and she receive ~6k within the first 10 minutes of her stream.

Going by these estimates...I will predict she beats him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX1sJUFobUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5UVKDBCCLk

>>26023469

100$ from ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174961349272

Based from fanbase JP

Suisei no 1

>>26023495
I'm still amazed Yoshi P managed to salvage that absolute disaster of a game. SE really owes him for saving their company.

>>26019373
Anon, >>26020603 is only partially explaining the situation. This whole referring to online games as MMOs comes from always online games like Destiny and Warframe who operate on the SaaS model. Since they have a hub of sorts where a bunch of people can come and meet and interact with each other even if the main phase of the game limits the amount of players you see due to instanced maps that people constantly switch between so they end up meeting different people at random (this isn't like lobby shooters that have TDM, CTF, SAD, and BR modes).

So yeah, you will see people constantly use the term MMO for games like this even if they don't technically qualify as one.

>>26022919
gave me a hearty chuckle, good one

>>26023548
It doesn't work like that anon, my prediction is that she won't go pass $100k

>Miko GTAV again
She really hell bent on making it her game ever since the nigga moment huh? What is the appeal actually?

>>26023567
"Let's just copy whatever is possible from WoW, what could go wrong?" - Yoshida, probably.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-3BMrEcZ7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yioJ9tWmrZI

> Two new holo animations in the last 30 mins
we're eating good today bros

>>26023630
And manage to be better than WoW lol. Fucking legend

why the fuck does she stream on this fucking stack timeslot.

Why is nijinigger a little bit mad today?

Wait, so Mori's concert next month at Toyosu Pit isn't going to be a sololive? She's having guests there?

>>26023609
Its online not storymode. She has fun and her fans have fun. Whats not to like about it?

>>26023690
Suisei's sololive isn't even solo, tokowhore and azkiwhore was there

>>26023691
Ah that make more sense then

>>26023525
Whenever I hear stuff like this I basically imagine the executives use all the money they make to give themselves bonuses.

Much as it is a joke to say embezzlement, Anykara's business is extremely profit margin oriented, and with the whole IPO and 6 month turn around thing, every sign is that they've probably been cutting themselves checks this whole time.

>>26023713
Watame's was solo though, wasn't it?

>>26023769
Yes, watame was a solo

>>26023548
Fans already donating 100k outside the stream this month.
I don't think she's gonna make it.

>>26023779
Will you kneel tho?

So when no one else is streaming, Matsuri will be No1

On YT at least.

>>26023469

Lamy SSR 900$
Botan SSR 615$
Nene SSR 412$
Polka SSR 437$

Anon

>>26023609
Jesus christ how new are you

god she really is fucking accelerating as she gets closer to 4M
50k/mo is crazy this late in the game

>>26023814
I don't even kneel to the fucking queen anon.
Only in church on Sundays.

Also, based Wataposter.

>>26023864
the collab and songs probably help

Curious to see if this buffs her other songs too.

>>26023831
>The World's Strongest Hamburger Vtuber
will always be funny

>>26023864
Normally people are more willing to subscribe if it means that you will hel with reaching a milestone, unless you are AI and just completely stalls before the finishing line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYHNSR27VZs
This hag.... I love her opportunistic nature

>>26023917
I think the reason for AI stalling before the finishing line is because the race is over, less incentive for people to care subscribing

>>26023950
She's probably going to funnel into Chloe's thing. Becoming a waiting room, truly a Miko

>>26023831
>>win low class member nijijp , proud ??

>>26023761
I can honestly see it. I don't think Anycolor have ever put themselves to blame for any "yab" that ever happened to them. Every single time they had some or the other excuse prepared, or just outright ignored it.
> DLSite/Overpriced ASMR : *zero acknowledgement*
> Nippleman : "He downloaded it before he joined, not our fault."
> Ibrahim : "Editor guy didn't follow our pipeline, not our fault."
> Stolen merch design : *silently removes it*
> NijiEN copyright yab : *VODs privated with zero acknowledgement*
And of course, not a single one of these instances had them actually PUNISH the talents involved. They all had "voluntary breaks" to "reflect". Sure, we can tell it's punishment, but the fact that they don't state it as such is just a level of arrogance that we usually don't see in JP companies. It's like those Chinese Propaganda statements where they're like "we've investigated ourselves and found no fault.". Infuriatingly disgusting behavior.

Meanwhile Cover had the Chinese statement yab during the chinkout, and they had Yagoo take a pay cut in order to demonstrate that "Yeah, we fucked up here, we won't repeat it".
And VSPO is basically like "yeah we suspended her for two weeks". Cleanly burying the yab, gives off the impression of punishment given, and allows Noa to continue activities with minimal issues once she gets back.

>>26023984
Matsuri is a high class Niji anon. She's ahead of that back by about a hundred people

>>26024011
Didn't they also quietly remove the KR bully without ever saying anything?

>>26024011
Anykara has the same attitude as the Chinese businessmen they take investments from

>>26023984
>She still has lower numbers than Koreans on Twitch
>anon thinks this is a proud post
do people in this thread just understand numbers however they please?

https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/153628744013408665
"Nijisanji never tweeted about it so it wasn't a suspension" btw

>>26024112
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1536287440134086656
Fuck I mangled the link

>>26024109
>https://twitchtracker.com/channels/live?page=2
You mean the fact that Matsuri, at 5k+, would objectively stand in the top 50 streamers on the entire platform?

>>26024112

>>26024011
Don't give Cover too much credit, the way they tried to bury the spambot moderator incident was really shitty. Comparing their response tweet to Coco's own statement was infuriating.

>>26023984
Low classs ????

>Med - high niji

>kanae Top niji ccv 9-10k anon

>>26022250
Not, it isn't. It's a one-time payment agreement. Could be all instant or over time, but the total is fixed.

>CEO Tazumi 43.11% of stocks
oh no, he doesn't even have his own majority. The chinese will overtake him in no time and force nijien males to relocate.

>>26024069
Ah yeah, I don't think that during the course of that entire incident, Anycolor ever put out a statement about it. Not even to quell the rumors (like HoloID sometimes does, when the SEA FB gang are rioting). I don't think they even announced her contract termination before removing her channel contents.

Speaking of which, weren't some of the former KRs suing that girl? Did anything come of it?

>>26024011
lauren must make some good money for them to not have pulled the plug yet

>>26022984
It's okay grandpa, you can always disregard all the zoomer shits and tap buttons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23w6ThmX4a4
The Iroha x Laplus Identity cover dropped
>12,361 peak
>6,850 views after

not numbers related, but i think Identity sucks as a song, the chorus is too subdued and you really have to try as a singer to make it interesting.
Too many covers for this shit.

>>26024230
You say that but boomer games were all text and no gameplay

>>26023609
because GTA IS her game she used to play this shit weekly only stop because of hackers

>>26023256
Congrats anon, hope you make it big

>>26024212
He owns another 7 percent through a shell company, we actually know this through some investor documents

>>26024250
such as?

>>26024157
That's not a hard achievement,
She was in the top 50 on YouTube too
https://playboard.co/en/live/top-viewing-all-live-in-worldwide

>>26024294
Zork

>>26023984
Anon...

>>26024312
Wow, it's almost as if 5k isn't a shameful number.

Being Number-1 is great and all, but you are numberrot if you think any number that can get into the top 50 is low tier

>>26024112
> Thank you for your continued support of Nijisanji.
> We are posting this to inform you that an inappropriate comment was made during the June 10, 2022 delivery by Lauren Iroas, a Nijisanji affiliated liver. We deeply apologize to the viewers who were watching the delivery and to all parties involved, including those who were collabing with him.
> In addition to the strict warning from the company, we have conducted another in-person compliance training session for the individual with the intention of helping him better understand the type of words to be used on stream. He deeply regrets his conduct, and he will be very careful about the terminology used in the Stream in the future.
> Once again, we apologize for any inconvenience this incident may have caused to many people. We will continue to provide education and guidance to our livers to prevent similar problems from occurring in the future, and we ask for your continued support and encouragement.
> Please refrain from making direct inquiries to the affiliated livers regarding this matter.

>>26023814
>>26023866

Funny thing is that Watame posted that pic herself on the subreddit

>>26024179
I don't remember there being such a discrepancy in statements, both parties agreed that it was a retarded move iirc.

>>26024351
We've always been in a constant spiral of numberrot

Nijinig said:
>7K is low

Oops..

>>26024402
Well yeah, because it was. It's not really possible to say anything else about it other than that it shouldn't have happened

>>26022772
is that senko's artist ?

>>26024374
what has nipple boy done now?

>>26024402
Nope, Coco explained everything in detail in several tweets but the only thing management ever did was say "Some people may be falsely banned from this channel, contact us if you think you're affected".

This was something that was ENTIRELY their fault and they took zero responsibility. No mention of what happened or how, no apologies to her or her fans, no pinning of the tweet or retweeting it, and to top it all off they didn't actually even do anything and Coco later tweeted to just contact her directly instead of management.

>>26024112
>>26024374
> strict warning
> Lauren suspension was "self imposed"
Wow, so Nijisanji livers can say nigger, faggot, tranny etc. on stream and get away with just a "warning". Based Riku, zero fucks given.

>>26024463
Called a Korean the equivalent to Nigger

>>26023256
grats man, hoping the best for you

Mel Channel update-
After 4 years and 7 weeks, Mel finally has a video on her channel with over 1 million views as her cover of Vampire recently crossed that line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tftbi551s8Q

>>26024431
This really puts all the HoloEN doomposting into perspective doesn't it.

>>26022841
>It will be worse than Fate lore
Can't they just do what Mages/Marvel did? Multiverse theory and all.

>>26024431
>Nijisanji is the #1 vtuber company
niji nostalgia is a powerful cope

It’s fucking insanity at how bottlenecked Gura and Shion’s cover is. It just went from 360k to 365k meaning we’re STILL processing large batches of views, 10 fucking hours in. Youtube is a giant joke

>>26024481
based, he and ayame has something in common

>>26024431

7K Low
>suicide

>>26024467
I found Coco's statements, do you have the links to Cover's ones? I distinctly remember seeing an apology as well.

>>26024564
Holy fuck finally, congrats to her.
That means every single one of the JPs now have at least one Video/Song/VOD with 1M+.
Pretty impressive if you think about it.

>>26024617
So every batch of processing are at the same old pacing?

>>26022891
Maybe you should refer to them as companies:
>Cover
>Brave Group
>AnyColor

>>26024564
OMEDETOU!

>>26023674
Sana is streaming?!

>>26024431
> VSPO is officially second when using median peaks
fucking hell, how the fuck did Salome have zero effect on this number?

>>26022919
This probably the highest quality off-topic post in this thread.

>>26024734
And it only gets worse when you look at the number of streams.

>>26024734
when you divide something by 100+ and 70% are in 3view territory...

>>26024734
a lot of bottom feeders

>>26024734
Salome is Atlas trying to hold up over 200 shitters with less than 2k median

>>26024725
Yes
https://youtu.be/UZSzZplc0lc

>>26023256
>do it for her
Good on you, anon.

>>26024734
they way median works means that it literally just takes one single exNijiID to erase every single salome stream, that's why so many people make a big deal out of a 10k branch median

>>26024790

>>26024792
> Sana of all people has a fucking fan game
I will never understand the holo audience's autism

>>26024734
She only here for like a month or so and the rest of Niji unironically tank her number
Which is kind of an impressive achievement because of how big Salome number is, and the rest of Niji still managed to drag it down

>>26024852
This is the power of the holobox

>>26024838
>one single exNijiID
We all know it's Petra since that english stream.

>>26024734
There's like a hundred talents in nijisanji, most of whom get like 500 views. Having one superstar will not lift the entire company

>>26024852
Been in 2hu fandom before so shit like these does not surprise me. It's normal Japanese fan thing

>>26024864
petra's Drain Charisma touch is too effective

>32 mins
>sub 10k ccv
meanwhile ENs can easily get 10k+ in normal gaming streams now

>>26024852
Hololive is the new touhou, shit will never end

>>26024852
Anon, being Holo fan who do their reps mean that one day your oshi will acknowledge your creation
Just look at the amount of games Holofan made, not just for their oshi, but Hololive as a whole
You can create your own fucking Holoware with tha- ... Wait ...

>>26024852
Good content creates passionate fans. Nijisanji will never create the kind of fandom Hololive has, it's all normalfags who watch TV

How many for her tonight?

06/13/2021

82,635 Coco Reddit(w/Ame)
52,718 Lamy 700K totsumachi
30,567 Marin RE7
30,554 Shion Zatsu
29,885 Pekora Yakuza0
24,132 Rushia Room review
21,115 Aqua Karaoke
19,464 Flare Minecraft (w/Polka)
18,326 Coco Minecraft
18,190 Suisei Night Delivery
17,634 Miko 7 Days to Die
17,185 Marin Drawing
16,769 Choco ASMR
16,666 Polka Live2D Update
16,509 Subaru Dragon Quest Ⅷ
16,074 Kanata Monster Hunter Rise
11,969 Fubuki PSO2
11,284 Kanata Minecraft
10,863 Korone Sonic Adventure
10,841 Polka Minecraft (w/Flare)
10,827 Mio Loli Mio
10,780 Suisei Duolingo

*9,002 Azuki 3D Live
*8,477 Matsuri Night Delivery
*7,413 Botan Diablo
*7,397 Noel Dragon Quest Ⅺ
*5,182 Nene Zatsu

>>26024916
3 morbillion

>>26024916
169k

>>26024916
153k

>>26024916
120k should be a good benchmark, especially with obvious coomerbaiting

>>26024916
140k praying for the 150k+ though

>>26024952
Iroha got 120k. Chloe is more popular and is a natural born genius at getting big numbers

>>26021811

>>26024916
138k

orca 3m sc prestream

>>26024852
>I will never understand the holo audience's autism
The magic of Hololive is that the whole is greater than the sum of parts.
“Sana” isn’t the Australian lassie that disappears more often than show up. Sana isn’t the deliciously tanned masterfully drawn hip crushing snu snu giantess either.
“Sana” is the girl, the model **and** the audience. That becomes even more salient with Haachama and Haaton, each part in itself is nothing, but it all put together is a masterpiece

>>26024901
Touhou fan are still honestly impressive. I cannot stretch enough the quality of their fanworks
A team of 8 random fan making 45 minutes long anime episodes with pro-level VA and animation
Ton of fangames on professional level made by a team of 6 or even solo
A single Blender animator spend 10 years making the most impressive danmaku battle ever seen in the fandom

Iroha currently has the Vtuber record for peak viewers during a 3D debut, right?

>>26024696
An addendum to this.
On the EN side only Sana is left without a 1M VOD
On the ID side, only Anya and two of the ID3s are left without a 1M VOD.

>>26024852
I feel the power that you don't

>>26024274
>>26024505
>>26024829
thx anons

Will the pink dog raid into Chloe? She said at the start of the stream she was doing this to keep people occupied in the meantime while they were waiting for Chloe's 3D. This is literally the perfect use case for the raid feature

>>26025065
Man Kaela debut really was a disaster. I was sure she would be a 3 view after that mess, but she turned out to be an actual great streamer.

>>26024696
.... Hime