/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>26006907
>creative freedom to be ewhores
yey

>>26006907
>1st gen is full of old retired JAV actresses

>>26006907
>advertising freedom in the country that worships conformity

>>26006907
>Veibae
>Talent

I think Vtubers have shown everyone that women are at their best when you limit what they do and say

>>26007118
I beg to differ.

>Talent
>Vshojo

>>26007089
We are getting westaboos.

>>26007168
Mousey is the one of the only smart ones in the twitch vtubing scene.

>>26006907

>>26007168
Mouse limits herself because there are things she deliberately hides because people would be put off watching her if she was open about them

>>26007040
I'd kind of watch

>>26006907
So talent and freedom is their angle eh. Not too bad seeing how actual big jp corpos are control freaks. They are pesenting an alternative to jp talents that don't want the constraints of corpos but still have a corpo like network and support behind them. That will give free minded JP aspiring chuuba an incentive too pick them.

>>26006907
>Talent Freedom!
I'm not the one to bring up politics, but do lefties really?

>>26007040
The inner circle of Vshojo/Trash Taste already has a retired JAV actress that streams games so the likelihood is pretty high

Will Kson join VShojo?

>>26006907
>Talent
Theirs literally only 2 members in Vshojo that have actual talent unless masturbating and having MMD music videos where your model lip syncs the song is considered "talent" now.

>>26006907
I guess they're getting shit applicants if they have to advertise like this.

>>26007605
>Kson joins VShojo
>China mobilizes against all of VShojo

>>26007626
porn stars are technically talent

>>26007777
THE QUADS HAVE SPOKEN

>>26007605
No, some vshojo members are trying to pander to China

>>26007777
Hmm are chinese still shows up in Kson livechat?

I only watch her clips

>>26007626
Cope holokek

>>26007777
The quads never lie.
I can't wait.

vshojo jp proceeds to collab with holojp every other week

>>26007467
Only one I can think of is Hitomi

I wouldn't mind Hitomi Tanaka joining Vshoujo JP.

>>26007950
I would. I hate big tits.

>>26006907
imagine being a 50 year old white collar nip getting on the train to go home and you are greeted with this Vhojo shit

>>26007975
Faggot or nigger?

>>26006907
>Talent freedom
ohnonono theyre mocking us holobros

>>26007992
Cope

>>26007975
Gayest post of the week.

>>26007945
I was thinking Shibuya Kaho, she already has a Vtuber model

>>26007777
>Vshojo doesn't bat an eye because they're not a honorable japanese corporation folded a thousand times and there's basically nothing the chinks can do to harm vshojo short of nuking the workshops that produce their merch

>>26007997
Both.

>>26007762
>Applicants
Lol Vshojo doesn't accept applications as demonstrated during their security breach. Applying for Vshojo is a farce what they actually do is incorporate various indies that interact with their friend group and make them "unofficial" members and affiliates. You either get in because your a friend of one of the members or you become an affiliate indie.

>>26007992
Nips actually like vshojo. A number of them were pretty into their VILLS concert and Vei herself has had nip fans well before she joined vshojo

>>26008116
I'm pretty sure VILLS is their only exposure to it except for some of Vei's fans, and a lot of her foreign fans aren't Japanese, they're Chinese or Korean.

joining vshojo is a free ticket into collabing with hololve and nijisanji

>>26007862
I like how you can't even refute what I said. Unironically tell me how many of the members are actually talented in some way. Ironmouse is a given however tell me the talents of members like Silverdale, Hime, Zen, or Melody. I'm saying this as someone who likes Melody too.

>>26006907
Yup, they're targeting the whore demo

Kson
Rosemi
Michaelcat

come home you whores

They're back for revenge.

>>26008374
Ah, chuuni, just like Michael Cat

>>26006907
>>26007278
>Talent freedom!
So why can't Zen admit he is a man then?

>>26007945
Kaho.

>>26008443
Rumao

>>26008082
So, they don't even have JP indies that want to associate with them. This is kinda cringe.

>>26008199
they also did an amogus collab with a bunch of JP chuubas including siro, deron and kizuna ai, and nyanners sang a couple songs in one of ai's concerts last year

>>26007997
Even nigs can appreciate a fine rack. He's 100% homosexual

>>26007605
Will you shut the fuck up

>>26008443
At this point it's to save face for the other girls. I remember Mouse getting super pissy when people would question Zen's gender. Coming out as male would be basically throwing her under the bus.

>>26006907
>VshojoNext
hmmm

>>26006907
>advertises in japan
>not a single stroke of japanese on said ads

>>26007605
>Kson joining vshojo and slowly learning how to really be a whore by the actual whore
Kson corruption arc let's fucking gooo. We need another Kson and Mel cb collab that's actually lewd and not just meme reviews with Kson getting mogged by Mel's lewdness

>>26008223
Silvervale and Nyanners sing and dance, Froot is an artist who shouldn't need any presentation on this website, Melody is definitely talented as a specific kind of performer, Zen is good at physical comedy and creative, talented in the way that watson is, Hime is good at making youtube videos I guess though as a vtuber she really just does meme zatsudans

>>26008811
"Guys, she's totally an innocent virgin, haven't you seen her collab with melody?"
If you bought this act even for a second, you really need to go outside once in a while.

>>26008541
JP branch is planning to own the character models seeing how they're advertising Kagura Nana as one of the artists.

>>26007777
>VShojo
>giving a shit about CCP bugmen

>>26008882
Nice ad

>>26008082
literally the most /in/ chuuba, snuffy, was rejected

>>26008935
VShojo may not, but Vei might, the stupid bitch willingly cultivated a Chinese audience.

>>26008937
>how dare you answer my questions after I ask you to answer them

>>26008969
Since when? She got a small JP audience from a JP clipper but that's it

>>26008223
>Silverdale
I keep seeing this typo, wonder if multiple anons are doing it or just you.

>>26008988
She's got a bilibili account and posted a promo video there.

>>26008969
she just did a 1 minute video a year ago to thank her chinese fans after someone pointed out that she was getting clipped on bilibili

>>26006907
Ewww the only thing nastier than NijiEN is VshoujoJP

>>26008798
well that would just be lying though
at the current moment, some understanding of english is required to get into vshojo.

seethe

>>26008988
vei has a bilibili account

>>26006907
Why is this Japanese ad written in English?

>>26008955
No furrys allowed for sponsorship reasons

>>26006907
This is why Uto stopped streaming on her account.

>>26009084
English is cool (in Japan)

>TALENT FREEDOM

kek
they are shitting on Hololive
funny, just right after Towa's rant and Laplus punishment for just wanting to play Rush

Vshojo might be more based than I thought

>>26008904
>Fake whore factually gets mogged by a real whore
/vt/ thinks anyone that who is slightly more lewder than a holo is a full-blown whore. Same kinda shit with leftists thinking anyone that leans toward the center is full-blown alt-right

>>26009084
English text creates more western whore vibe

>>26006907
>Talent freedom
lmao you can't be more on the nose than that

>>26007019
>Y-your vtuber is more of a e-whore than mine!!!!!

They're all e-whores bro.

>>26009221
>just right after Towa's rant and Laplus punishment for just wanting to play Rush
Rundown on this? I don't follow Holo that closely

>>26008443
kek

>>26006907
>Talent Freedom
Holobros....

>>26009084
>>26009052

>>26009221
she got punished for playing rust?

>>26009221
>>26009299
Perhaps Cover would be interested in knowing Vshojo’s opinion on their practices?

>>26009241
>Lives in Japan
>Identifies as Japanese
>Lasers off pubic hair
Nothing whorish here boys

>>26009318
Holo e-whores good
Vshojo and other twitch e-whores bad
Unironically

>>26007777
Do the chinese even give a shit about Kson?

>>26009221
>freedom
>under an agency

LOL

>>26009318
>>26009396
No wojakposter, vshoujo is definitely on a whore level above the others. It's no contest.

https://kemono.party/patreon/user/20146355/post/41087130

>26009318
>Soijak
>Namefag
>VShojotard
>"bro"
Kill yourself

>>26009338
No thx, I want no more Rushia

>>26009368
talent freedom has been part of vshojos branding for eons though, they'd know

>>26009451
>Facebook filename

I give Vshojo a max of 2 years from now. Small corpos like Phase will still be around when that happens.

>>26009411
Indie JP ASMR vtubers do shit like this all the time. On Youtube nonetheless. Watch more than hololive

>>26009396
If you can't see tiers in whoreness, you are a woman hater.
Not a bad thing though

>>26009487
you were saying the same thing 2 years ago when they were announced

>>26009241
Bro they streamed on Chaturbate for god's sake. Streamed topless and pretended to finger each other. Cannot be more whore'ish than that.

>>26006907
>You can do whatever the fuck you want
that sounds like an recipe for disaster, JP antis are way more brutal than ENs when a vtuber fucks up

>>26008882
>Silvervale and Nyanners sing and dance
Posing your model to do a dance in vrchat doesn't count, and nyanners didn't actually dance on stage during that concert
>sing
Autotune shitty pop
>Froot is an artist who shouldn't need any presentation on this website
Her last drawing stream was months ago, all she does is play apex with her bf or some twitch eceleb
>Melody is definitely talented as a specific kind of performer
Whoring yourself out for over 8 years is not a "talent", mr. coomer
>Zen is good at physical comedy and creative
Yeah, he's good at meme content, but his streams are obnoxious due to sound alerts and emote spam
>Hime is good at making youtube videos
Her editing makes maxor look tame
>she really just does meme zatsudans
I know that people often say that vshojo is amy schumer level "humor", but that's literally the case with hime

>>26009471
>>Facebook filename
>>Facebook filename
>>Facebook filename
LMAO, just go back already

>>26009529
>if you're not as sexist as me, you are sexist
oh okay

>>26009403
Unironically VShojo management won't lift a finger unless the girls ask them for something.

They're so hands-off it might actually be too much.

>>26009571
Welp, even so there are people who think this >>26009396
rumao

>Wait, is that a MALE in my heckin' VTuber collab? *PUNCHES MONITOR* God I fucking hate MALES! Fuck MALES, fuck BFE, heil GFE, and heil Yuribait!
>Wait, mentioning a MALE on my heckin GFE KINO COMFY Minecraft stream? *SLAMS KEYBOARD* Who these WHORES think i am? I just donated FUCKING $100 this YEAR!
>Wait, this WHORE didn't stream today! *THROWS KEYBOARD* DOESN'T she have ANY FEELINGS? SHE'S my VIRTUAL GIRLFRIEND!

>>26009550
I-it was just a fluke! G-give it another 2 more years they definitely won't last that long

>>26009411
THAT'S SILVERVALE??? she has a silvervale porn patreon blog? oh lol what

it all makes sense now

>>26009586
i consider myself pro-vshojo and yet this post seems entirely fair to me

>>26009607
Every adjective exists by comparison.
But sadly not many people understand this.

>>26006907
Shibuya Kaho joining when?

>>26009666
She also erps with her top-tier paypigs in a discord channel and allegedly fucked some of them(although I personally doubt that).

>>26009638
you're making it worse retard

>Wait, is that a MALE in my heckin' VTuber collab? *PUNCHES MONITOR* God I fucking hate MALES! Fuck MALES, fuck BFE, heil GFE, and heil Yuribait!
>Wait, mentioning a MALE on my heckin GFE KINO COMFY Minecraft stream? *SLAMS KEYBOARD* Who these WHORES think i am? I just donated FUCKING $100 this YEAR!
>Wait, this WHORE didn't stream today! *THROWS KEYBOARD* DOESN'T she have ANY FEELINGS? SHE'S my VIRTUAL GIRLFRIEND!!!!

>>26009678
There are less/non delusional Vshojofags too, I salute them

>>26009722
Wojack posting always makes things better because it makes the people it was intended to seethe

>>26009586
>nyanners didn't actually dance on stage during that concert
Well yeah because it was a Japanse company, a Japanese concert, and they live in America
And I'm pretty sure Japan was still locked down so they couldn't quiet fly over to do the mo-cap, now, could they?

>>26009586
holy cope

>>26009797
No you retard, it outs you as a goddamn tourist

>>26009638
KEK

>>26009638
there could also be a version for
dedicated condom funds doners lol

>>26007168
Mouse restricts herself because she knows if people knew she's a 30 year old single mother with a teenage daughter the gravy train would stop

>>26006907
It's funny, the more a vtuber company boasts about their "creative freedom" the more creatively bankrupt their vtubers are.
Like the vshojo model of "reacting" to dogshit videos 5 hours per day for example.

>>26009797
no, it reaffirms their belief that the camp you're pretending to support is retarded, only leading to more segregation and eventually getting kicked right off the board after pissing everyone off enough. which is your plan.

>>26009876
A fucking shame for Vshouko, go back Mouse.
vt always asks anon to go back if they don't act like a channer.

>>26006907
So when are they firing Veibae and replacing her with an authentic, no cunt like Shylily who'd rack in even more viewers with corporate powers behind her?

>>26009960
... Jesus.
Go the fuck back.

>>26009929
>>26009855
Case in point

>>26006907
>Freedom
>You laugh you lose video reacts
>new model
>over 10 people collab
>repeat

>>26010115
Freedom to watch tiktok videos for 10 hours, apparently.

>>26010082
>

>>26009638
unironically this

>>26009571
You didn't even watch it you liar. Kson's model can't get topless, she used her sarashi which she uses on Youtube all the time. And they did not pretend to finger each other, Kson pretended to perform cunnilingus on Melody by moving her model below frame and then Melody would moan a little. Kson didn't do anything lewd at all, Melody carried the entire thing. Kson wouldn't even admit she was into creampies on that stream. The entire thing could have been on twitch or youtube if they just put a censor bar over 2 or 3 of the memes that featured anime tits.

t. disappointed coomer

>>26007301
too bad she wasn't smart in the beginning of her career. should've always just refer to that thing as her sister

>>26008443
You win.

>>26010150
> freedom for the talent
> she's happy
> more content
> no feeling sick or constant breaks
not so hard to understand, newfag

Damn, you guys said Hololive thriving yet you guys seething when Whorejo suddenly enter JP market.......

>>26008443
Does he want to admit, but can't?

>>26010272
>no feeling sick or constant breaks
LOL. LMAO EVEN

>>26010423
ok thread reader

>>26009401
They did, albeit indirectly, when she was going to participate as a guest at the Playism game show last year and pulled the plug on her before it even started.
https://twitter.com/playismEN/status/1439201572001435656

>>26010272
>more content
>no breaks
Top jej

>>26010350
Holofags are a bit on edge after the desuwa queen Salome has been blowing every single Holo out of the fucking water. They're borderline mind-broken haha..,

>>26009855
>tourist
WE fucking started Wojack you fucking election tourist, holy fuck get your fucking history right.

>>26010491
Literally who?

>>26010360
>Zen doesn't want to admit he is a man for money and views
>Zen can't admit he is a man because of VShojo management
Either outcome is ridiculous and should not be allowed.

>>26010513
please take a shower

>>26010513
>Wojack
Anon, I...

>>26006907
So I'm guessing VshojoJP is their solution to paying back the VC money?

>>26010560
But one of those is absolutely not what you mentioned before.

>>26009023
she's just thanking her collaborator in spreading western thotism

>>26007777
PLEASE

>>26010529
>Holofag so mind-broken he has to pretend the fastest growing vtuber in history is a literal who

>>26010491
Yeah if only Niji can spawn 10 salome, I might start to bat my attention about niji. But good job for knocking Holo doors for once...

>>26009722
hello simon you fucking autist, get a life instead of spending all day posting

>>26009758
meds

>>26010691
I really don’t know who that is, though.

>>26010491
>Based Reanposter is also a fellow Nijichad

>>26010529
Cope

>>26010735
ok, go back to your containment thread
>>25989065

>>26010735
holy cope

>>26010491
>>26010797

>>26010491
Nijinigga brags about a botted Salome,
Holobrony brags about a useless anime/game.
VshojoJP is going to BFTO both.

>>26010691
JUST TELL ME WHO THAT IS YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGER

>>26006907
Why dont they open a branch literally anywhere except the place where people already have a million better options?

>>26011037
It's Tazumi going on HRT

>>26011082
what autotune susei, excue ayame, ans the rest who literally don’t stream, can’t forget literal lamy, the only good jp members are polka, haachama and used to be coco

>>26011082
they don't offer freedom though, and it's the most important

>>26010735
>>26010841
Not kidding I think a lot of bronies don't know famous Niji like Kuzuha (let alone a newbie like Salome), everything which isnt Holo is just Niji.

I predicted a year ago that, eventually, American vtubers would take over. The Japanese have a stubborn knack for inventing interesting things, then digging in their heels and refusing to change them even when they are surpassed or outdated, and the same would happen with vtubing. Their models are already being surpassed by western indies, and their religious adherence to kayfabe, idolfaggotry and typical Jap overbearing corporate garbage restricts what their talents can actually do. Thus, it is only a matter of time until predominantly American vtubers find bigger and better ways of attracting viewers and leave the Japs behind, stewing in their own little bubble on their island while the rest of the world moves on.

VShojoNEXT is probably the first step in this process.

>>26008905
that's not very Freedom

>>26011170
Good bait, anon.

Can someone please explain to me what I'm looking at here

>>26007777
Except Silver, who is a meme in China.

>>26011270
my wife

>>26007040
If vshojo gets Uehara Ai, I'll unironically make her my oshi as fast as her jav makes me nut.

>>26011146
nigger what?

>>26011163
The worst part is, even if they know, they never watch Niji, no matter how hard the latter begs the former. As the famous saying goes "Nijifan watches everything and Holofan only watches Hololive"

>>26011082
Its a desperate attempt for them to feel valid if they can make it there and and not be the "How to Draw Manga" poor mans version of Hololive or Nijisanji

>>26011276
Chink is bad

When I think about it, how can Nijisanji be good if chink is bad?

>>26011431
cope holokek
Evertime a holo collab happens you fags go full schizophrenic

>>26011431
holy cope

>>26007040
Unironically kino. Would watch.

>>26011495
>not liking colonized noodleneck dragon

>>26011509
Please understand.
Holokeks are sensitive unicorns, Nijikeks are hardcore cucks.

> Evertime a holo collab happens you fags go full schizophrenic
It sucks and it proves this is a hololive board :(

>NEW CIA JP PLANT JUST DROPPED
So excited bros

>>26010201
After that stream, /Vt/ stop call Kson as whore but she becomes virgin wizard 30 year olds instead and unironically

>>26010350
>>26010491
You two really don't the difference between a "wait what" reaction and genuine seething.

wouldn't the japs find it odd since "shojo" means "virgin" in japanese? like i wonder what they think "virtual virgin[s]" is supposed to be about

>>26011776
>After that stream, /Vt/ stop call Kson as whore
In your mind

>>26010350
>>26010491
You two really don't know the difference between a "wait what" reaction and genuine seething.

>>26011864
If they don't get it they can watch other chuubas.

>>26011718
Based. Kill yourself, Ivan.

>>26011864
LOL
I don't like to call anons tourist... nvm.
What is a shojo manga/game then?

>>26006907
Who's the blonde talent on the left?

>>26011791
>they didnt have a portrait for zen yet so they just used the live2d
kek

>>26011995
Hoshikawa.

>>26012040
Talent freedom !
Management freedom !

>>26012040
it's a portrait

>>26011379
>The worst part is, even if they know, they never watch Niji, no matter how hard the latter begs the former.
Why would you ever admit to being a beggar? It just makes you look like a seething crybaby

>>26012155
This new design is so cool I can't bear to make tranny jokes anymore.

>>26011981
That's shoujo, eop-kun. Though I suppose you're going to pull out your cope of it being a joke about "美少女" now, aren't you?

>>26012337
>That's shoujo, eop-kun.
>That's shoujo, eop-kun.
少女漫画, lit. "girls' comics",

also romanized as shojo or shoujo

rumao

>>26012462
>shojo
shōjo
Google ō japanese

>>26012337
YWNBJ btw

>>26011981
>being this retarded

>>26006907
Leftist whores who should get no attention from anyone

>>26010513
>We
Wojack is from a polish board.

>>26012462
>I-it's just stylized! They just chose to use a different spelling that's linked to another actual Japanese word that means something completely different!
>It means the same thing because they said so!!
>You j-just don't get it!
Just accept the fact their very first step as a company was to fuck up their own name lmao

>>26012626
stop being a EOP

>>26012647
>collabs with every holo branch

>>26012462

>No Nyanners poster
Good, at least Japan has SOME sense left in them

>>26012155
are you there anon? can you record a video of the animated panels?

>>26012811
blindchama?!

>>26008374
>One graduated over leaks
>One graduated because CCP forced her out
>One got fired because she is down-syndrome tier retarded
One is not like the other

>>26012903
> me good taste
> other people bad taste or blind

For me it's just a simple portrait with zero design, I don't give zero designs credit or discredit.

>>26012903
I refuse to perceive, and i pray you will not correct my lack of perception

>>26013012
cool english chama

>>26012998
what
anon said there was no nyanners poster despite there being an image with a nyanners poster
that's it

>>26007853
I’ll give you one guess

>>26013012
You can see part of her face in the back
>>26007278

>>26012858
just reposting from this guy on twitter
https://twitter.com/akiba_asterisk/status/1536147764379197441

>>26008443
Freedom also means having the choice NOT to do something, you idiot.

the pink cat

>>26012960
All three were fired, but at least kson could leave with dignity.

>Talent Freedom!
Is that a cheap jab at the competition? Pretty poor form by japanese standards.

>>26013782
are you an idiot

>>26013730
They would be better off using their actual live2d models and not this shitty "ayyyyyy" art.

>>26012155
That's a really male-looking face. Although, I like the design.

>>26013881
yeah they've been doing this in all their branding since the start and everyone generally agrees it's fucking awful, no clue why gunrun is still doing it

>>26008443
You don't pretend to be a woman online for years and years every single day and not turn into a tranny. It's just impossible.

>>26007777
Quads don't lie

>>26012680
i think it's funny too, but japanese people don't care about romanization
they'll just assume it's 少女

>>26013941
Art style consistency is good for marketing.

>>26013966
>tranny
Obsessed

>>26014106
I know, I don't think the Japanese will actually care, but the fact they managed to fuck up THEIR OWN romanized name is just hilariously bad to me.

>>26013332
It turns out I am the blindchama orz
I need some hugs

>>26014213
The target audience don't care, but you considered the company fucked up and you laugh.

... well ok.

>>26014155
I have no probably with trannies. I would give a reach around if he's hot. I'm just pointing out that Zen probably doesn't consider himself a man at this point.

/vsj+/ fag here, ask me anything.

One quick thing:
>>26009221
I know most of you don't pay attention to VShojo at all, but this is how they've been since day 1. The "talent first" mindset was always there and has nothing to do with recent events in other agencies. I will admit that it is most likely a direct shot at Hololive and idol culture tho.

>>26014246
c'mere friend

talent freedom = freedom from the need for talent

>>26014332
>The target audience
wasn't japanese when they made it, and obviously they can butcher foreign words when it's only eops who see it. I think it's an excellent representation of the company when they fuck up something as basic as a single foreign word, and then use the failure as their own name. Pretty sure anyone would laugh at them for something as bad as that.

>VShojo JP will have fleshtubers BFs be common occurrences
Are nips big cucks? VShojo has the burger audience which is why they still get people watching, but what about nips?

>>26014353
>a direct shot at Hololive and idol culture
A-All out war again?

>>26007605
I don't believe, but it is funny that her twitch follows are almost entirely VShojo https://www.twitchdatabase.com/following/ksonsouchou


BTW Here's the JP branch's president's following list. Some of them are nobodies so might be in their branch. https://www.twitchdatabase.com/following/loutlot

>>26014617
NTR is massively popular. Japs are huge cucks.

>>26014674
feels like an all out war right now

>>26014605
>Pretty sure anyone would laugh at them for something as bad as that.
Hmmm I dunno. So far ITT you are the only one who are furious about it

>>26014734
>https://www.twitchdatabase.com/following/ksonsouchou
>no hime
wtf...

>>26014852
>Furious
>laughing
anon your emotion reps

>>26014674
I would call it a competition model because idol culture doesn't fly as well in the west as it does in Japan.

>>26014758
>NijiEN wave 6, HomostarsEN and VShojo JP all on the horizon
Pomu was right, The Great Chuuba War is only escalating

>>26013825
Sure, if you're a negative person you can derive that from the ads.

>>26009586
Melody managed to carve out a huge audience on a platform that openly despised her existence. Won an award from Chaturbate and was nominated for an AVN.
That's success whether you acknowledge it or not, and given that nobody else has managed to imitate that, despite many trying, is evidence of talent.
Just 'cause you don't like it don't mean it ain't no good.

>>26015291
>Just 'cause you don't like it don't mean it ain't no good.

>>26014213
They managed to fuck up Veibae's acrylic stand and put Nyanners name on it, is it that surprising?

>>26015859
You're shitting me. I need pics anon

>>26007435
Streamers of the world unite!
Stand up, you who refuse to be slaves!

>>26007853
>chinese still shows up in Kson livechat?
Surprisingly no. Not never, but almost never. They seem to focus on Fubuki far more, for whatever reason.

>absolutely no japanese appeal or even an attempt at japanese appeal from a single member in their entire company
>completely content to just sit happily in their little corner of the western vtubing market
>"hey lets start a JP branch!"
what the fuck is the point of this? do they not realize you're supposed to establish a healthy viewership in a region before you branch off there? the same way hololive did? the same way nijisanji did? you take the audience and good will you've built up with your main branch and grow it with the new one tailored to that market. vshojo hasn't done shit in japan, at all. they have nothing to grow. they may as well be starting a new corpo from scratch.

>>26006907
"Talent Freedom" is the biggest lie since JP members will have to get permission to stream games and they won't be able to react to videos.

>>26014891
> managed to fuck up THEIR OWN romanized name
> fuck up something as basic as a single foreign word
Looks grumpy or angry. More examples up there too. Strikes me as a triggered person rather than a laughing person who found a funny joke.

>>26016572
Kson and Pikamee both do that though.

>"talent freedom"
>"bro just forget the fact that youre a japanese woman streaming to a primarily japanese audience being judged by japanese societal values bro just do whatever u want! freedom! :)"
it should be no coincidence that the only JP vtubers who have the same kind of "freedom" that vshojo does all speak english. this might be the dumbest thing ive seen in the history of corporate vtubing.

>>26016535
with a few exceptions there wasn't much interest for nijijp in the west and nijien luckily became popular with people who don't understand english
let's not even talk about the other branches lol

>>26016726
I wonder what the Japanese men think when they see "female steamer + freedom"

>>26016535
Anon you realize the point of the group is for people to keep their already existing assets so their starting popularity will be based on who joins the group to start. And with the biggest rrat being Kson that's not exactly a no-name.

>>26016622
You're picturing it wrong. When I say that I'm more laughing at them in entertained disbelief than being mad at them over something. Imagine watching someone fail to make something as basic as a bowl of cereal, so badly that they manage to break the table they were making it on. It's not my table, and it's not my cereal, but it's hilarious they managed to fuck up something THAT basic that badly, so I just laugh. Though I don't blame you, half the anons on here get mad too easily at others instead of just finding them funny and laughing.

>>26016535
>kizuna ai concert + multiple collabs, collabs with japanese talents, vills concert

>>26016535
>Vshojo
>making competent decisions
I literally cannot think of a single one. I can think of plenty of clusterfucks they pretend didn't happen or weren't their fault, though.

>>26016669
You can't compare a business with top streamers that make millions to some indies.

>>26016910
You could say the same about regular VShojo. Look how that turned out.

>>26016823
Seriously where the fuck does this rrat of Kson joining vshojo keeps coming from. Literally only because she happens to be friends with Melody and does collabs with her from time to time? That's hardly enough evidence to give any kind of creditability to the rrat of her getting poached by vshojo. Especially when Kson has stated she has no intentions of going corpo again, regardless of vshojo promising "talent freedom"

>>26016775
nijien became a thing because other corpos and indies already established for quite a while that a market existed
plus its really underselling it to say there was never any interest in nijijp from the west, just because it wasnt obviously as big as holojp was
>>26016823
that's even stupider because then they haven't accomplished anything at all, it'd just be the exact same vtubers with the exact same fanbases with nothing having changed. they would barely even count as a separate branch at that point. plus kson's never going corpo again, don't kid yourself.
>>26016849
>if you collab with a jp vtuber it means you've created a japanese fanbase
yeah they wish it were that easy.

>>26016669
Don't know about Pikamee but Kson only watches English language videos and won't play any Japanese ones on stream.

>>26016910
Considering that vshojo is American-based and if their supposed JP talents stream on Twitch, they won't have to worry a single fuck about getting game permissions.

>>26017010
Anon again. 6 out of the starting 8 in VShojo were established indies before joining the group. They kept their identities, and elevated the group's status by remaining popular + continuing to grow. A Japanese branch would presumably operate the exact same way.

>>26016838
...wow u type a lot man. Ok I come to the conclusion you're not angry, just laughing.

>>26015291
Melody's success is on her bf who saw the niche and instructed her what to do, as by herself she's a retard who blindly trusted digi and recently forgot what opsec is and revealed her real voice when networking with finana.
>carve out a huge audience on a platform that openly despised her existence
She simply caused enough of a stir to gain clout, it's not her "talent" or "skill". "Platform that despised her existence" boo hoo, this is camwhoring, a literal crab bucket. This bitch has earned money for her model by pretending to befriend camwhores, including eating them out for clout and money from porn sales, only to dump all of them the moment she rebranded, and won't even give them shoutouts.
>Won an award from Chaturbate and was nominated for an AVN
Who fucking cares, she's one of the lowest earners in vshitshow and her viewcount has been declining for months since she stopped giving a shit about streaming and is more preoccupied with side projects that will yield very little if anything.
>nobody else has managed to imitate that, despite many trying
She only succeeded because she was the first. She has normalized the idea of camwhoring with an avatar. Try becoming a CEO of a company after applying as a clerk or janitor. And besides, camwhores are dumb npcs who see a formula and try to replicate it, without realizing that it was a lightning in a bottle.

>>26017107
The mysterious character in that lore video and hiring a new illustrator implies that they will be having some brand new talents

>>26017167
6/8 in VShojo were established. The other 2 (Froot and Hime) were new. Both can be done.

>>26016996
She’s actually friends with a few of them now anonchama

>>26017213
That's ignoring that both Froot and Hime were already well-known and had established fanbases that carried over to their vtuber careers. Vshojo has yet to prove they can elevate either someone from scratch/a 2view into a successful high-profile vtuber.

>>26017336
They did. Her name is Froot. Unless you count being a sub-100 view streamer as having an established audience. And while it's not the same, Vei grew from a 2k average streamer to a 12k average while at VShojo.

>>26017107
That's not Vshojo Japan, its just Vshojo but with new talents that speak Japanese and English. And that last part is very important, because the success of a Japanese vtuber joining Vshojo, in any capacity, and not knowing English, is a virtual impossibility.

>>26017336
>blocks your path

>>26016996
she's been posting in the chat of nyanners boyfriend who happens to be the guy who makes all the BGMs for vshojo members when they redebut

>>26017455
Mouse accidentally confirmed on stream today that there's something big happening on the 15th of this month, and then more stuff happening "in a few weeks." It seemed like Kson had been deconfirmed because the only known date until now was the 15th, but with her having a big 3D debut + more projects to reveal within a few weeks and Mouse saying there's more beyond the 15th it's seeming like the rrat is back on.

And everyone keeps bringing up her saying she doesn't want to join a corpo again, but that was a long time ago and times change. And even if she doesn't want to join a Hololive-esque corpo again, VShojo operates so wildly differently that it would be weird to assume it's off the table regardless.

>>26008443
heh

>>26007605
lol why would she, she can collab with them all she wants. Why would she want to let them take a cut of her income after becoming indie to avoid that very outcome?

>>26017705
VShojo doesn't take a cut of their income.

>>26017718
riiight... and the company management funds grow on their money trees in the backyard I guess

>>26009848
I don't think you realize what that word means

>>26017062
Oh wow! Suddenly being hired by an American company makes you immune to Japanese laws! Japan is stricter with copyright laws and their businesses will enforce their right to protect their content, they're just as bad as Disney or worse.

>>26017765
They make money by getting the talents sponsorships, then taking a cut of those sponsorships as well as a portion of merch income from stores they set up + manage themselves.

>>26017853
Fair use is why Japanese companies can't. It doesn't exist there. It exists here.

>>26014353
>I will admit that it is most likely a direct shot at Hololive and idol culture tho
worked out well for AkioAir

>>26017765
They reserve merch and event profits for anything they organize. Stream profits go to the talents and I think sponsor as well, though it might be only for sponsors the corp didn't arrange.
So basically the talent is lending the company their IP.

>>26017957
Yes, but Japanese members won't have that, stop pretending that your laws will work in another country.

>>26017062
No. They still do or the JP branch would get fined and the videos removed. For broadcasting violations it is based on where the broadcast originated.

>>26016775
>nijien luckily became popular
It was mainly because they debuted right after Myth, at a time when Myth streams weren't enough for a lot of EN speakers.
Helped that they had a holo-lite vibe going for a while, until last December.
I enjoyed them getting buttblasted about being bait-and-switched every time, their posts make it super obvious.

>>26017062
>>26017957
What part of "Japanese branch" don't you understand retard? You think American companies can open shop in Japan and break Japanese laws as much as they see fit?

>>26017578
>times change
well the old corpo she left has a perma open door for her, a better Live2D and a 3D model with amazing rigging, along with literally all of the other holo girls who she's still in touch with.
I don't think she's going corpo again anon, I know you haven't been watching streams, but this is basically confirmed. There's just one zhang spamming "KSON TO VSHOJO!?" trying to paint her as a whore, but it's pretty transparent.

>>26018225
>A better model

>>26017904
> VShojo doesn't take a cut of their income.
> taking a cut of those sponsorships.
> portion of merch income.
uh huh

>>26018287
not that anon but, the point is they only take from what they add. vshojo did the work required for the sponsorship or for the merch, so they're in their right to take a cut there. they don't really add anything to a regular stream, so they don't take their cut there. seems fair to me.

>>26006907
I look forward to the day that “freedom” gets them cancelled or sued.
It’s sickening that hololive allowed collabs with this company. It’s clear who they’re going after in these ads.

>>26018374
>they don't really add anything to a regular stream
This is a hilariously naive post.

>>26018374
Sure, but KSon has no problems putting out her own merch or getting her own sponsorships. She also has a far better reach in JP than literally all other VShojo girls combined.
And she can collab with VShojo girls already.

VShojo literally has nothing to offer her.

>>26018287
First off, stream income is what most people talk about when they talk about a company taking a cut. 100% of sub, direct dono, and bits if they're on Twitch, all stay with the streamer. They get none of that. Second off, they only get a portion of sponsorships that they directly acquire for the talent. If, say, Raid Shadow Legends approached the talent without VShojo getting them the sponsorship, the talent would keep the money they get from taht. And the caveat for merch income is stores that VShojo manage themselves. Even right now, Silvervale and Zentreya both have merch stores separate from VShojo that they run on their own. They keep the income from those stores, while VShojo doesn't take any of it.

Basically if the company directly got you that income source, they take a portion of it.

>>26018450
seems like a good deal for 2views to take, not established indies like KSon.

I will literally jej if the JAV actress that the Nipplesanji guy blew his load to gets to be in Vshoujo's 1st wave.

>>26018434
not really
they SHOULD have people there to manage the streamers and help with technical support and such, but...

>>26018496
They also get support. Like this anon said >>26018449 a company getting sponsorships for you, doing the legwork in setting up merch that you want to sell, and handling all the day to day shit that is annoying as a big indie. Snuffy talked about wanting to join the group when she doesn't "need" them either simply because having people to take that load off her mind was an extremely appealing idea.

>>26017578
I ain't touching the Kson rrat, but I would imagine if they are doing a big rollout then they'd want to spread it out over a month just to maintain the hype.
June 15 is definitely going to be Melody/Melware lore and if I were a betting man I'd say a hint at what's to come. Then the next few week would follow up on that with actual content releases.
It would be silly to just dump everything out at once.
I hope if they got new talent, that they informed them that they are expected to actually stream. Because half of the original girls seem to have missed the memo.

>>26018449
as I said I'm not that anon, i also don't think kson will join. would be fun, but it's not realistic.

>pornografy is a talent
>pornografy is a talent that qualifies a good vtuber
Thanks vshojofags, you crack me up

>>26018555
> handling all the day to day shit that is annoying as a big indie
KSon has a hired manager to do that stuff for her threadreader kun.
Once again, VShojo has absolutely NOTHING to offer her.

>>26018589
If they were smart they would have approached her to be a salaried manager for the company.
She's got the connections for it.

>Allow collabs with the literal prostitute company people warn is one you should blacklist
>They make ads that passive-aggressively attack you in your own country, probably because they hired some incompetent vtweeter who hates Cover to make them
>Probably will still allow them to profit off their name, do collabs with people like Polka
Amazing

>>26018658
Why would she cut her income to take a management position? Besides, Kson loves streaming.

>>26018617
Seethe as they collab with hololive

Realistically, kson won't join VSJp, but will probably collab with them a lot like some kind of leeching aunt.
Prepare to see her a lot with 1st wave.

>>26018815
dedicated seethe/cope anon who has at least 20% of the posts in this thread, i'll still call you out as a falseflagger even though i don't like this group anymore

>>26018759
She wouldn't have to stop streaming at all. She still be indie Kson.
As for pay, that depends on the offer. I'd ballpark 200K base salary plus singing bonus for talent and residuals on merch.
Added bonus being able to bring in her existing management as associate and use their EN connections for overseas sponsors and merch for herself.

>>26019035(me)
*signing bonus

>>26018658
If Kson liked being a manager she wouldn't be paying 2 people to do that job for her right now.

>>26019035
>I'd ballpark 200K base salary
Jesus VShojofags really have no idea how much KSon makes huh...

>>26006907
300 shitposts and no one has asked the obvious question
Why would I join VshojoJP when I can join NijiJP? They offer the same freedom with about a bajillion more upsides

>>26019466
That much is obvious, they're both a niji and holo reject kek

>>26006907
Veibae kek.
>No talent
>Freedom to be a lazy whore.

I hope they don't infect the jp vtuber culture.

>>26008057
mommy

>>26009077
The more I find out about this hypocritical cunt, the I hate her.

>Vei said she hates vtubers and their fans. Yet is a vtuber herself.
>Vei said she doesn't like parasocial fans, or vtubers that exploit them, yet she cultivates that culture.
>Vei talked shit about Hololive, yet she wanted to Collab with Kiara.

Fuck this whore!

>>26020121
Are you a Vshojo fan?

>>26020121
Her one goal in life is to annoy (You) and anyone who thinks like (You). Don't let her win.

>>26019466
>Why would I join VshojoJP when I can join NijiJP?
You can get cocks in NijiJP, but your slut level has a lower ceiling. In Vshojo you can stream chaturbate if you want. Cocksleeves for NijiJP, true sluts for VshojoJP.

>>26019183
I'm gonna assume about 4-5 times that figure, but here's the thing anon. It don't last. It doesn't provide anything for the future if you lose popularity. Your career is just gone.
Where-as being on the ground floor of a corp only increases in value the more years you spend in it.
This is all hypothetical of course, who knows how long this endeavor will last. It could fail right out of the gate.

>Talent
>Freedom!
>Vhsojo
Do you know these TV ads that you watch and yet have no idea what the ad was all about? Really stupid ads.
Putting some anime girls there won't get you attention in Japan. And they literally say nothing. You just have to guess that the V in Vshojo is for Vtubing. At least put one sentence there that tells you what this is about and where to find more information in Japanese. By the choice of words I am not even sure if this ad is focussed on the talents who should apply to vshojo or the target audience...?
I can respect Melody and Ironmouse for what they do. But seriously with this ads their Japanese branch will flop. VEE had better advertisment by Sony and they can be happy if they reach 150-250 CCV per stream.

>>26020536
vshojo management is famously retarded and this is just more of that. don't think about it too hard.

>>26020346
> fortune telling
This sounds like something a scammer would say to get you hooked on some spiritual talisman or some shit.

>>26007193
Konnichi Smith...