/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>pity bump

>Keeps post hoping someone takes the bait
Fuck off

>>25951238
??? Who would replace them? NijiEN and Vshojo are loud and proud cocksleeves, and the big indies on twitch don't interact with males but they're still gigantic sluts. Where do you expect the fans of seiso vtubing to go?

>>25951238
It's just stupid right now to doompost about the big two in any way. Both won't recline or fall in a fairly long time.
I still remember how this board predict Anycolor to go bankrupt any second but got BTFO'd by their IPO.

>>25951238
*Rapes you*

>>25952499
*Spread open vagina*

I said no such thing

>>25952499
*Bump your thread*

>>25951238
Nijiniggers and their lies

>>25951238
dont listen to trolls and antis

>>25951501
This.
I follow both /vsj/ and /nijiEN/ more than holo, but their audiences are completely different.
I usually go with the 90's sitcom comparison;
Hololive = Full house
Niji = Friends
Vshojo = Married with Children
You can have audience overlap between all of them, but never replacement.

>>25966022
Who is the Seinfeld of vtubers?

>>25966645
Haven't found a group like that yet, but there's a shitload of vtubers I've never watched so it might exist.

Pomu is growing faster than Gura lol, unironically

>>25967997
That means pomu gonna reach 1mil soon right?

>>25968028
Is this your cope post?

Gura's been stuck at 3.9 million for literally months anon. Her growth has completely flatlined

>>25968041
Well Pomu won't have any growth either, cause she will never even reach 3.9 mil subscribers.

>>25967997
I don't watch or like Gura, or any HoloEn for that matter, but Gura pretty much peaked already, she has 4 mil subs so there's no where more to grow. It would be strange if Pomu wasn't growing faster than her at this point. Also /vt/ told me Gura barely streams anymore, so again, why would she grow? Anyway, I'm just stating the obvious, don't let me stop you from baiting chumkeks

>>25968041
Is this your cope post?

Pomu's been stuck at 300k for literally months anon. Her growth has completely flatlined

>>25968294
She is growing anon. Very nicely. Gura is not growing, she's getting smaller.

>>25968321
Gura is growing extremely slowly, but she's actually growing faster than anyone else in HoloEN. It's just that HoloEN's growth has completely crashed to almost nothing. Kiara for example only gets 300 subs per day. Gura gets about 1000. Last year, they were all getting 5x as much, or more. Basically, their growth has flatlined, their subs are becoming dead-subs, and they are losing popularity.

Pomu is getting about 1.4k subs per day. Most of the girls in NijiEN are growing faster than those in HoloEN, subwise.

Also the notion that they cannot grow anymore, because they've reached the "market cap" is not true.
1) Because the same decline in growth is happening for lower-subscribed people below Gura, who should be far below this theoretical market cap.
2) Because it's not the same people year-over-year. People are always coming in and out all the time. So it's not like you've maxxed out the pool of people, you're always getting new people.
3) Because there are streamers out there with like 10x the subscribers of Gura. The point is, what Gura has is not actually very big in the world of streaming. A drop in the bucket.

Also, it's true that holoEN is remarkably lazy. And that's one of the reasons they're losing steam. This probably has something to do with a hostile work environment, we know that HoloEN management is troubled to say the least. There might also be some kind of financial incentive for them to stream less instead of more. Although this doesn't seem to be affecting HoloJP, so it's kind of strange to think that.

>>25967997
Here coworkers seem to disagree

>>25968547
That's fair. I assumed that only Gura was stagnating

>>25968321
If Gura streamed more and made more music she would be ahead of everyone on EN by a solid margin.

>>25951238
For something to decline, something else must incline to take it place. But there isn't anyone to do this.
Nijisanji accelerate strategy killed their unity. Salome is great success, but it didn't translate to helping others in company to incline. There's simple too many of them.
VSPO is one that incline last year the most, but they target FPS niche. Hard to say where is their ceiling.
On EN side it's another thing. The three companies pretty much target completely different audiences. Early on NijiEN girls might shared quite a lot with HoloEN, but not nowadays. Luxiem changed NijiEN culture and with that they change target audience as well.

>>25968547
Vtubers will never be as popular as real streamers. They'll be associated with weebs and a large part of the audience won't give them a chance solely due to that.
Also trying to argue that Gura is not doing well when Pomu literally needs like seven years at her current growth rate to reach where Gura is right now. LOL.

>>25951238
Why do shitposters always need to use Pomu and Selen for their shit threads, they're the two Nijis I like...

>>25968547
imagine working so hard, for so little

>>25971054
Is there any other nijien with sadface/crying face edits?

>>25951238
>Bros you told me hololive is going to decline soon
Well, they did recline and continue to do so:
>71108 -> 48382 -> 28592
Numbers don't lie
>but they just keep getting bigger and more popular instead wtf
Can't see them getting bigger though

>>25952958
Would that make Pomu the inly NijiEN that isn't a dyke?

>>25971899
None of them are dykes. Some "like girls" for twitter cred but all of them want dick.

>>25971054
Because selenposters and pomuposters made it easy to hate the mere image of them when they first became a thing /here/.

>>25951238
The market can remain irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
This is why bears go bankrupt, because of a bad timing and being too early then being too bearish.

>>25971693
But anon:
13914 -> 399030 -> 84403
The numbers don't lie.

>>25951238
Your mistake is believing nijiniggers

>>25951238
no brakes on the Hololive train

>>25951238
Hololive (and Nijisanji, and vtubing entirely) will die eventually as all things do. Just wait, and maybe try finding something better to do than bait posting.

>>25980997
How will it die?

>>25951238
kek, i just want to say that males will never be relevant, just fucking look at the recent v-carnival event, literal zero male(faggots) there

>>25966645
phase connect? I dunno

Hololive will grow larger

>>25968547

>>25951238
Is NijiEN actually becoming more popular than HoloEN in the west? I thought most NijiEN fans were south East Asian and Chinese.

>>25987180
No, but they also aren't the 2view midgets that shitposters like to make them out to be

>>25987297
Of course not, they are usually in the 4 digits.

>>25968547
What happened to holoEN is a fucking tragedy, i cant believe any of those girls arent at the very least upset or worried about this situation.
Seriously and even if the talents dont give a fuck what about their management, you can't tell that they think its normal they're getting so desesperate that they are trying tick tok.
EN3 need to come asap and have at the minimum 2 charismatics talents or I get the feeling the HoloEN brand will never recover.

>>25971042
>Pomu literally needs like seven years
I will stick with her through all those seven years. When she's a dried up old hag dying of a stroke on her gaming chair, I will be there. I will be the last Pomudachi.

>>25988079
I will be at your side, whatever it takes to save her from going back to being an OL.

>>25987567
If EN3 doesn’t meet expectations, the EN branch will never have a new gen again and will either get axed, fused with ID, or left to rot until everyone there graduates.

>>25966645
>>25967963
maybe >>25982604, or maybe VOMS.

>>25987567
>>25990207
EN3 won't save them, most of the hype is gone.

>>25972176
Only one that wants dick is Enna and that is because she is a tranny.

>>25990662
>Elira
>Pomu
>Finana
>Nina
>Reimu
watch streams

>>25951238
nope