/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>25947103
Boyfriend.

I have no idea how the fuck Twitch works.

>>25947103
why don't you go ask her

>>25947103
Maybe she should've been more true when she said she was lesbian.

Does she even stream anymore? I haven't seen her suggested in a while, and getting a BF seems to end most careers, not because of viewers but because they just stop streaming.

>>25947135
i don't think so, she's not a holo so her fans don't care about incel-esque shit like that

That's a huge ass drop lmao, wonder where those unicorns will go next.

>>25947103
>>25709288
>>25595867
>>25287305
>>25328989
>>25479118
>>25139556

>>25947103
She streamed once on her channel in about 1 month, and that was 2 days ago. At least let her go back to streaming normally before spamming the graph threads

>>25947254
Why would you give money to someone who has a boyfriend? Those people give money to her because they want to support her, now she has a boyfriend, he can fucking support her lmao.

Simple as.

>>25947231
>using a joke ship to make this point
"Sorry, but I'm super duper straight!"

Did she seriously announce the fact that she had a boyfriend on stream? Is there a recording of this exact moment? I want to see how her viewers reacted.

>>25947339
it's like tipping your waitress or your community's clown. Normal people don't fall in love with any women they see

>>25947103
Pretty much stopped streaming

>>25947103
People will say its the boyfriend fault and nothing else
but she literally didn't stream for an entire month
so each day that passed gifted subs expired
and of course people that value their money didn't renew

>>25947339
wE R HeR BoYfRiEnDs tOo
pLeAsE FuCkInG UnDeRsTaNd

>>25947382
yeah here's a screenshot

>>25947103
Every anti-idolfags should take a look at this and wake up.

>>25947177
whales gift subs during streams
people who receive gifted subs usually don't renew
and some unicorn whales probably left too but she would need to stream for we to know

>>25947254
why do you people try to play blind? It happens every single time, even among normies, that one girl that did the okay boomer shit lost hundreds of thousands of followers in twitter once she said she had boyfriend lol.
It's in your monkey brain, you like females alone, not with a guy.

>>25947254
With how much her fans shit on gfe, people would think that's the case, right? But the numbers say otherwise and numbers don't lie so...the truth is deep inside no one likes it when their oshi has bf.

>>25947391
You tip the waitress and offer more tip for her number. And if the going gets good, she'll receive a different tip altogether.

>>25947339
This is like saying you won't pay a street artist just because he/she has a lover/spouse, not because he/she is not entertaining.

>>25947597
same with the clown?

>>25947457
I can't believe that pink cat is a mentally ill schizophrenic.

>>25947294
I don't need to let her do anything

>>25947555
>you like females alone, not with a guy.
Wrong, there are het shippers. The thing is, no man wants to be cuck. (except Niji and Vshoujo fans maybe) Nijifans love cross gender collabs.

>>25947659
i like clussy

>>25947382
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_HqdyPWMHk

no chat though

>>25947469
So she has under a thousand real subscribers and the rest of her subs are just gifts handed out by whales? Jesus.

>>25947659
If she's harley tier, then why not?

>>25947616
>not because he/she is not entertaining.
She isn't. Most vtubers aren't.
Men give them money because they're women.

>>25947103
Nyanners has no ambition for herself or her stream and she shows it with every stream ever since she got the new model.
Why would anyone support someone who doesn't even properly try?

>>25947693
Yes because you're a schizo pushing a rrat

>>25947103
> Spectrum of male fans

- prefer oshi to collab with female vtuber on bed = advanced Holofag
- prefer oshi to collab with female vtuber = Holofag
- prefer oshi to do solo stream = purebred unicorn
- prefer oshi to collab with male vtuber = Niji/Vshoujofag
- prefer oshi to collab with male vtuber on bed = advanced Niji/Vshoujofag

- don’t have an oshi, just watch vtuber for entertainment = dumb teens who prefer amateur singer/gamer/comedian over professionals

>First the loli stuff
>Now the boyfriend stuff
Why does she keep killing her own fame?
Would be easier to just put up a facade and collect money while keeping your private thoughts and business private
What's the point of hiding behind 2D picture if you will just shove your private stuff down your audience's throat
I don't get it

>her subs dropped because she's not streaming not because of boyfriend
Great for you thats she's having sex multiple times aday rather than streaming

>>25947734
>34 dislikes
>entire comment section is 'congratulating' them
ecksdee

>>25947251
Holos go on long ass breaks all the time. They don't lose members like this

>>25948130
Twitch is different, if you sub via Prime, which a lot of people do, you need to choose to resub.

so did she not announce a break or something? just radio silence?

>>25947927
>- prefer oshi to collab with male vtuber = Niji/Vshoujofag
I will never understand this because it just means you don't enjoy the person you're watching unless some guy is also there. Shippers are the worst.

>>25947382
Her boyfriend is another vtuber, and everyone had been guessing for a while that they were together, based on their frequent interactions.
They initially planned to stage a fake "hey babe oh oops" reveal, but then Nyan got drunk and did it accidentally for real. She had a sober announcement stream soon after.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE4_lpNJp_g
(Nyan also has a self-confirmed humiliation/embarrassment fetish, further explaining her reaction to the slip up)

>>25948241
Oh man. No wonder holo mems don't stram on twitch. EN would be fucked

>>25948329
She annouced the break and delays, including the reasons for them. The major contributing factor was a move.

>>25948329
She's been streaming less and less ever since meeting her bf. She didn't really plan to take a break but she didn't stream for a month straight while she was moving together with him. She even teased some streams on her Discord during that period before flaking out on them. It's not looking good.

>>25947103
https://youtu.be/3fZXMb-3dFc?t=12

>>25948445
She's been streaming less and less /on her own channel/ ever since meeting her bf.*

>>25948349
>deep-ass fry voice
every
single
time

>>25948412
It doesn't take over a month to move, especially when your job is playing videogames on the internet

>>25947262
>Unicorns
>Ever following vshojo in the first place

expect a dead cat bounce when she returns. the simps will resub just to cancel after pink cat tells that Chad is still her BF and he mating presses her everyday

>>25948691
The majority of whales are unicorns, regardless of who it is
Whore with a heart of gold is the oldest trap in the game

>>25947391
>tipping the clown
Do Americans really?

>>25948691
Link me the CB video where Melody openly fucks a guy instead of using a vibrator.

>>25948329
trying for a baby

>>25948815
during lockdown I was doing grocery delivery and I was getting tips in glass jars on doorsteps, it's ingrained into our culture

>>25947254
>>25947927
Rent Free

>>25948062
Too bad for her those aren't the people that have money.

>>25947103
She already has enough money for life with bf. No need simps buck anymore. She can finally retire and peace will return to the internet

>>25947339
>and they hated him, because he spoke the truth

>>25947616
Most women aren't entertaining, and even more aren't entertaining at all when you compare them to men. Typically men tend to find women more interesting when they're viewed as single, even if it's just a subconscious thing, so when it's plainly stated they're not that effect is no longer present, and the men lose interest unless the woman is ACTUALLY entertaining, which is very rare. That's why the top streamers are all men, top comedians men, etc. etc.

>>25948691
Normal watchers are not unicorns. But the big whales? Most of them are.

>>25947339
based

>>25947294
She already lost a huge chunk of her subs by the end of May, but didn't experience any comparable loss of subs where she hadn't streamed for the same period at the beginning of April. That doesn't add up.

>>25948937
Yep, whales bring the real money. They are the ones that commission fanart and put together clips and post them on social media.

>>25948876
>tips in glass jars on doorsteps
The fucking pussies that order food online I swear kek

>>25948349
>They initially planned to stage a fake "hey babe oh oops" reveal, but then Nyan got drunk and did it accidentally for real.

>>25947616
Man, I absolutely would not find a street artist telling me about their lover all that entertaining, but that's just me.

>>25949009
But why would unicorns become whales for the company made up of transparent twitch whores instead of going anywhere else?

funny how she came back with the same amount of viewers aye?
based enough to make vt seethe, btw she’s vlose friends with some of your oshi’s so cope more

>>25949361
There's an incel and lonely men epidemic. Why do you think onlyfans is wildly successful? Some people want sluts.
I'm wondering what will happen once this group reaches critical mass.

>>25947103
This is what millennial or zoomer simps deserve. We warned you!? But do you even listen? She was never a trusting person from the start!

>>25949418
You know we can look at the graph and see that even though she still had viewers she didn't even regain 5% of her subs, right?
That's where she gets most of her income from.

>>25949361
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/captain_save_a_hoe

>>25948815
Americans froth at the mouth and start hitting you if you don't tip everyone you see

>>25949361
fatal combination of being both a unicorn and a total coomer

>>25947659

>>25948377
Oh holos do stream on twitch, but they're smart about it by only doing certain types of streams there (usually watchalongs). Perfect for double dipping

>>25947103
She was never hypocr-

>>25949809
I thought she got rejected by top hat man.

>>25949947
idk but you would probably not tell your mom that

>>25949809
he's so ugly and yellow lol

>>25949809
Why does the caption sound like it was created by a bot?

>>25949809
That’s Nyanners? Lmao

>>25949227
i just don't want to leave my house and interact with people dude

>>25947103
Damn i feel so sorry for her. She didn't deserve this.
Just because she was doing NTR experience...

>>25950034
No thats mori

>>25949967
There's no way a Jap would let their GF balloon up the way Mori has though

>>25947254
>>25947177
>>25947339
>>25947382
>>25947262

I literally dropped my 8 months subscription after her announcement.
don't know what made her think making her private life public was a great idea.

>Not streaming for a month
>Only showing up on her boyfriend's channel and acting as his cocksleeve additional guest.
>ditching her twitch career to move in with a retard she knew for a few months.
>making a 4 hour stream talking about her relationship.

good for her, or something, desu. in her yesterday's stream she mentioned how she didn't notice she'd been gone for a 'whole month'. I guess when you're getting dicked down in LA in love time flies by. but so do subs and money.

>>25947457
So that's why Sana hasn't been streaming...

WE FUCKING TD YOU!

WE FUCKING TOLD YOU!

Dw anons her, ironmouse and a few oher vshojo girls are collabing with haachama

>>25947103
she didn't stream for 30 days until day before yesterday so yeah that's how it works. Maybe click the stream tab in twitchtracker instead of creating a thread you dumb retard

>I'm pretty much a lesbian
>has only dated guys for (at least) the past 10 years
Hard to believe she's even bisexual really, in fact it makes you think how many vtubers are straight but lie about it for some extra views
But then again, I call myself straight but have never been with a woman either so what do I know

>>25950036
>paying literally a 50% markup for slop some teenager and his pakistani boss slapped together in five minutes delivered to you by abdul the uber guy/39 year old "student" at International American university of America (totally not a degree mill/student visa factory)

>>25950543
>UUUUHM GUYS, SHE LOST SUBS BECAUSE SHE LIKES BEING FUCKED MORE THAN STREAMING NOT BECAUSE SHE ANNOUNCED HER BOYFRIEND

NYANKEKS SEETHING

>>25950732
yes, your point retard?

>>25950544
People identify as bisexual because they're lonely and think it'll increase their chances of getting laid. 70-90% of bisexuals are actual incels.

You do realise she lost subs because of not streaming, not because of the bf right? The fans were actually suportive ns didn’t go full rushia fags

>>25947457
Lmao those sad fucks.

>>25950111
>don't know what made her think making her private life public was a great idea.
Anon, she's been doing that since the start. Nyanners has always only been Nyanners. Which is something people who complain about other vtubers' roommates don't get; their roommate and their vtuber aren't the same character, and they keep a layer of separation between them. On the other hand, Nyanners has never made a distinction and always brought her real life drama into her online persona (which was around for what, 8 years before she became a vtuber?).

>>25950927
>>25950543
see
>>25949178

>>25947468
Honestly the current "idol culture" meta is completely reasonable, it's literally just "don't ask, don't tell". So many top vtubers have bfs and anyone whose done a modicum of reps is aware, they just don't want it shoved in their faces. Any girl who finds that so intolerable 100% deserves to get sent to the trash heap

People on Twitter supported her coming out, sure, though as we've seen time and again Twitards don't actually consume content or support the things they like. Once someone conforms to their agenda they simply move on to ruining the next person's life. Twitard support =/= Fan support.

>>25947946
it's very simple thing, their Ego, they don't want to be praised and acknowledged by their characters/online persona, when they think people are coming and enjoying their content they hate the fact that as "themselves" are not hot shit, it's their models/company/community that it's hard carrying them, ironically most Irl streamers that "made it" on their own and recieve all this praise they also play an act, no one but egoschizos put themselves out there like this without how damaging can be for their own mental health, but well, tell that to a fucking narcissist cat-eared girl on the internet.

>see
>>>25949178
yes, you literally prove my point

>>25950792
>70-90% of bisexuals are actual incels.
this kek

>>25951110
>people on youtube, discords twitch
its only you fags on 4chan who are going full rushia

>>25948766

>she streamed on his channel all previous month

>most of their jokes and discussions generally revolved around their relationship.

I thought I was being weird about it and maybe it's going to be fun, to watch two of them collab. but it was pure shit. that fag was full of himself and not even mildly funny, while Nyan was meek.

Glad I can now get the experience of 'you hang out with your friend and his girlfriend but suddenly you're at someone's date' experience without leaving the house, tho.

>>25951139
I've read a lot of retarded posts today but this one takes the cake, good job

>>25950788
They're not coming back

>>25947103
What are the chances she will get all of these subs back when she goes back to streaming consistently?

>>25951598
90%

>>25951423
good, she's been saying that she wants exactly that since almost a year now

>>25947103
I unironically support Melody (actual prostitute) than this two-faced whore. Hope she's enjoying the downhill slope

From I have seen she vanished and now in her return she's giving more and more attention to her bf's channel, recline will continue

>>25951314

if you were a female streamer who only talks to their small circle of friends who are equally fake and retarded and all the negative feedback got wiped out on the spot by your janies.. what are the chances you would get a real picture of fans reaction?

>>25951598
I doubt she will, you have to manually cancel your sub, so this is a result of people knowingly unsubscribing. Most vtuber fans keep their subs active during hiatuses from what I've seen and don't cancel over that.

>>25951407
people experiences this normally on their highschool days, so it's no surprise that even retards on the internet can tell you when and how this happens, fuck people like you, if they can't listen when they're warned every time it happens, they're fucking autist that deserve it.

>>25951407
>I thought I was being weird about it and maybe it's going to be fun, to watch two of them collab. but it was pure shit.
I've only ever seen women and the most delusional men ever enjoy watching female vtubers hang out with their bfs. Even when it comes to male streamers you're a fan of if they hang with their gf it's just not the same, you're taking a look at the private lives of someone else which is boring. Few couples have what it takes to make their interactions work in an entertaining manner.

>>25951088
It isn't even idol culture, it's called professional conduct and these whores keep trying to discredit that with the >le idul cultre cope. I don't know how many times I've heard women gossiping to each other about celebrities and bitching because "X is dating Y now and Y is such a bitch, he shouldn't touch a skank like that", there are just certain things you don't bring up in a professional context to avoid any unnecessary drama or irrelevancy. You don't give out personal information like your address, your first middle and last name, your mothers maiden name, how much money is in your bank account right now, what restaurants you frequently visit, where you're going to be and when unless it's an event, and you don't tell people about your love life. If you're an entertainer your focus should just be on entertaining people, and literally anything that gets in the way of that should be OFFENSIVE to imagine even bringing up to you, simply because it's the opposite of the thing you want to do. The problem is these scummy leech people just want peoples attention so they get mad if you don't want to know everything about them, they have no professionalism at all, which even if being an entertainer is just a hobby to you, it's still important to have a professional mindset about these things because THAT's WHAT MAKES A GOOD ENTERTAINER.
God I hate twitch thot/grifter/attention whore vtubers

>>25952144
>I don't know how many times I've heard women gossiping to each other about celebrities and bitching because "X is dating Y now and Y is such a bitch, he shouldn't touch a skank like that"
wtf is this place full of women?

>>25952115
>Few couples have what it takes to make their interactions work in an entertaining manner.
I can only think of GunKan and Crossick, but the latter is cheating because they're both cute girls.

>>25951139
nah, anon has a point.
some streamers like Nyan have blurred the lines between theit internet persona and their personal lives.

>>25951773
At least Mel is authentic and upfront with what she is. It's respectable really

>>25952269
unironically yes

>>25952269
We're probably only behind /cgl/ in ratio of women to men.

>>25952056
I wasn't warned, anon.
I only found this board last week. its my first time discussing my oshi, don't shun me, desu

>>25949247
What? That's in line with her previous drinking exploits

>>25951773
She's not actual prostitute, I offered to pay to fuck her but she said no. Your mom did it real cheap though. Now there's an 'actual prostitute'.

>>25947103
*Rapes you*

>>25950111
>dropped your 8 month subscription
>still watching her as recently as yesterday
unironically cuckolded

>>25952269
>wtf is this place full of women?
Nijisanji threads didn't tip you off? they're unbearable

>>25952392
Not to mention she's really sweet and plays based games like Dohna Dohna

>>25952699
>I offered to pay to fuck her but she said no
story?

>>25952785
guilty as charged desu

>>25952649
It sounds like an excuse for revealing something by accident that was supposed to be kept secret.

>>25952785
guess it's back to Pekora again, lads

>>25952894
Listen up broski you have two options, drop out of falling in love with vtubers or jump ship to a safer girl.
I suggest both, the former so that you no longer slip into the pitfall of loving your oshi and the later so that you heal away faster.

Vtuber heartbreak is a ridiculous and pathetic concept but it happened to me too, you're not alone in this but it's up to you to straighten your life moving on.

>>25952144
It really is bizarre to see the same people making "wtf bro they're just entertainers" arguments also appear offended at the thought of a professional entertainer being criticized by their customers. "They don't owe you anything", yes they fucking do. What kind of shitty professional is that?
They don't want to be seen as entertainers, they want to be, get this, idolized. But, ironically, even the neverending support of idolfags is too demanding for them. You don't see Takane "used to work ~20 hours a day and a customer threw water and salt at me" Lui whining about the oppressive demands of hololive's culture.

Correct reasons to follow a girl streamer/tuber
>You have a chance to fuck her (super rare)
>Trolling
>GFE
>She is very skilled at games and doesn't show her face/body (rare)
Wrong reasons
>You like her content
>You think you have a chance fucking her
>You're a simp on denial
>You're a simp

>>25953351
can't argue with that.

but it's kinda hard to find another gem like Nyan. she's the perfect mix of autistic and funny. most women are either boring or unbearable to listen to. guess I'll have to let go of my oshi.

>>25947339
It's for you.

>>25947103
i heard that she doesnt stream daily like the triple A vtuber she is

>>25953893
Learn japanese
Not even saying japanese women are better or whatever, but the most bland zatsudan stream will be a neverending source of new vocabulary, any content becomes rich. A shitty joke is now hilarious because you got the joke, and that feels great.
Your EN oshi cucks you, and all you have to show for it is heartbreak. Your JP oshi cucks you, you've been learning a language and you're a better version of yourself.
I lived, bitch.

>There are retards in this thread who think that your oshi loves you
my sides holy fuck

>>25953893
I've seen a few nyanners fans come over to NijiEN for Pomu, maybe give her a shot. She's in the same ballpark in many, many ways.

>>25947103
she stopped streaming for months

>>25954370
Being the third wheel is uncomfortable, you don't have to like the girl to feel that way.

>>25947103
>Doesn't stream
>Loses prime subs since they don't auto renew
>No one can gift tons of subs every stream
>Others naturally don't renew because no streams
Yeah I fucking wonder what happened. A complete mystery.

>>25954379
haven't heard about her. I'll make sure to give it a try. thanks for advice.

[spoilers]I previously tried to watch shylily but it was so boring I would rather blow by brains out with a double, than do it again [/spoiler]

>>25954693
you forgot

>bf

>>25947616
No it's not lmao

is she going to update her avatar with the pregnancy stages

>>25954255
fucking based, damn

>>25952269
You can hear women talk as a man, anon. The damn things are so loud it's a wonder if you can't.

>>25947103
Unrelated but this is another example of how unstable streamer income is.

>>25954713
Even as a casual and new Pomu fan she's fun to watch. She's an actual weeb, /jp/ oldfag, confirmed hag, ex-office lady and likes boomer movies. Give her karaokes a try and her solo streams.
She's not chummy-chummy with the guys in the branch if that would make you uncomfortable, she does get idol culture even if she's not one.

>>25947754
>>25948971
This. They only donate money because the person in question has a pussy and the subconscious, vain hope that they may get some of said pussy.

>>25955130
subscribed to her chuube. gonna watch some streams today after work. thanks, anon

>>25955079
My income would be pretty unstable too if I decided to stop going to work for a month

When are we shitting her sisters' grave again? I hope she gets the message this time

>>25955079
>Unstable
It probably would be a lot more stable if you stopped pretending you didn't have to go to work or that your fanbase WEREN'T a bunch of unicorns

We know you're here Pinkocatto, you can bitch and moan all you want about /here/ but we know you're always around

>Unicorns
>For fucking whorejo out of all groups
???????????
What?
Someone please explain to me why there would be unicorns watching whorejo because I simply can't comprehend

Kill yourself shitcat

>>25955587
Because they have a self-owned discord server where, get this, you can PAY to be a mod and have direct convo's with them

>>25955079
heh

>>25955658
Reading this made me physically recoil

>>25955748
This translates to exactly what i think it means right?

>>25955658
>PAY to be a mod
doing it for free is one thing but there is no way people pay to be a mod for non trolling reasons

>>25955748
why does she need a loan isn't she rich?

>>25948876
What's also ingrained in your culture is getting paid below minimum wage, however the fuck that makes sense

>>25955887
To buy a house, she's renting from what she told on stream.

>>25955788
They pay, and they have their twitch account linked to disc account
Add to the fact that every whorejo disc server has shiny shit and special titles/perks for being a bigger sub/longer sub, and eventually you reach the higher eschelon where the multi-year or mutli-gifters have their own nook

>>25955887
That means she went for a down payment

>>25955887
she's rich but she ain't sitting on a million rich. plus L.A. houses cost a fortune

>>25953547
They don't owe you, the rando anti/gachi posting shit on /vt/ - anything. You or I or any one rando opinion on the internet literally don't matter to them - not even to Lui or the zero-complaints hard-working JPs.
And here's the thing you might not realize. When you act like an asshole and hide under the guise of "criticism", other people (including the chuuba herself) can call out your BS. No one, including the chuuba, owes you any kindness or respect if you're not willing to show it yourself. A chuuba owe the fans that they actually want to keep and cultivate, not (You).
On the other hand, nothing wrong with dropping a streamer that no longer interests you either. Supply and demand is good.

>>25947616
If the street artist sits on the couch in your living room and plays games and talks to you, then it might be analogous. Most people don't have a parasocial with street artists because there's only nonverbal communication.

>>25956028
>buying a house in California
In case anyone itt thought she wasn't braindead lmao

>>25947616
Why the fuck would you pay a street artist? What even is the point of that?

>>25952647
Nigger

>>25954379
They're both vulgar but that's about it.

>>25954693
So why didn't the same thing happen the last time she had a two week break?
>it's been longer than two weeks this time
And it was already much worse at the two week mark.

>Cope etc etc they will still collab with your precious holos etc etc
Why is collabing with holos so important to Vshojofags anyways? They want to leech that badly?

>>25956028
>>25956377
Why the fuck would anyone want to move to California? The job doesn't even demand it. Unless she decided she wants to become a voice actor again.

Absolutely delighted to see not one but two fucking Nyanners threads going higher and higher while there's no Vshojo general and not a single Mousefag thread.

pink cat's living on /vt/ rent free

>>25956124
Whole lot of assumptions and projecting going on, mate. Yes, I agree with the points you're making against your boogeyman.

>>25955887
She's not LA rich. She only has a few millions tops. She's not that rich in the grand scheme of things, I'm wealthier than her. Good luck living there with that kind of money, she'll burn through it quickly.

>>25956124
I agree with this anon >>25953547
I mostly see the shitty "don't owe you" thing on twitch though, and they mostly use it to deflect actual criticism. Streamers absolutely owe you something if they're making money from streaming to you. If they want your views they owe you an entertaining experience, if they become shit you can leave and they don't get anything, so if they want viewers, they owe you. Obviously if you're just being a dick you'll get banned, but if it's something like "you shouldn't do X because it's a bad idea and attract drama mongers" "don't talk about Y" with actual reasoning, I've seen loser twitch mongrels get mad and deflect with the usual "don't owe you" thing. If a streamer starts doing stupid shit and you tell them to knock it off or it'll get worse for them, you're in the right and if they get ass mad about it it's their problem.

>>25956703
Sorry you have to cope like this.
Maybe don't be born a cuck next life.

>>25956124
My oshi wife doesn't want me to quietly leave her, she wants me to talk to her if there's a problem, and she'll talk to me if she has a problem. We can't always satisfy each other's demands, but we do the best we can to make our loving relationship work.

>>25948856
Are you retarded? Mel's taken more cock than Tysons chicken. Her roommate is a literal whore and she's very open about it. It's part of her charm.

Verification not required.

>>25956650
Makes you fags seethe

>>25956702
Dumb liberal women anon, they don't know how to spend money properly at all, they literally have a black hole of a negative iq

>>25956840
>mori, fauna, towa, rushia, mumei
holocope

>>25956702

you don't understand.

>be Nyanners
>meet a chad who lives in LA
>talk to him for a month
>stop streaming
>collected all your shit
>move to LA

talk about being WHIPPED man

>>25947339
>he can fucking support her lmao
Her channel is over 10x larger than his

>>25956881
Kek keep huffing that cope whilst your whores hemorrhage subs

>>25952785
The whales and unicorns seethe for a while but they always come crawling back

>>25947103
remember the vshitshow keks coping that it was just that time of the month when subs run out? i member

>>25956961
Not for long at this rate

>>25956650
They're like those annoying hobby hoppers that show up, demand changes in a hobby they just got into because it offends them, then leave. In this case it's that they want to ruin Hololive because it's better than their literal pig shit vshowhores and they need to make everything terrible and ruin everything for everyone else to be able to get their pseudo happiness.

>>25957020
>muh subathon!!!
I laugh everytime

>>25956941
Which of those talked about their boyfriends on stream?

>>25956943
How long before she's dumped and comes crawling back to her viewers?

>>25956702
Have you seen her boyfriend anon? That guy is fucking a 30 year old rotting whores vagina for a whole month and it taking all of her money.
You can only dream of living his life.

>>25955263
The whales do but there are plenty of normal people who just throw a few dollars every now and then

>>25957057
Nyanners becoming a tradwife to a self proclaimed "musician" faggot from LA and leaving Twitch is the type of plot turn that makes you keep watching the show

>2 Vshojo girls in a row realize it's only glad handing secondary's who don't give them money that are into hearing about their vapid normie personal lives
C'mon Mouse! Start talking about that thing everyone pretends they don't know about so you can also weird out like three-quarters of your viewers enough that they stop watching.

>>25950792
I don’t think that’s the case for Nyanners, she’s pretty cute

>>25955130
Then explain why she keeps that faggot Luca attached to her hip

>>25957284
>it's only glad handing secondary's
back to school nigga you need english courses

>>25957096
well, it could be genuine love and shit.
I give it a few months

I still can't believe she gave her cats away to move in with a new boyfriend.

>>25947103
If she had just announced the Gura sex stream, this could have all be avoided. :(

>>25957284
>The revelation would shatter the frail minds of all the saviour fags who think she's a precious pure maiden who'll be forever unable to make love
It'd be more than 90% of her viewers are fooled by the con she's running

>>25956941
>impling I even watch hololive
Rent free

>>25957425
>I still can't believe she gave her cats away to move in with a new boyfriend.
now that's cold

>>25947103
this site is really accurate! it's only 7k off the real number if you look at ironmouse who has the subcount on her stream over 15k, the site says 8.7k, you are all fucking retarded

>>25947103
She stopped streaming for an entire month.

>>25947103
Unironically the boyfriend. I have a folder with 1700 images of this girl and I don't know what to do with them now. Will probably just delete them.

>>25957425
Wow. I legit hope she gets cancer.

>>25947103
What a loser lol

>>25957541
There's something really funny about a nyannercuck calling anyone retarded.

Nyanners cattered to the GFE audience while also shitposting. She is not entretaining and she has never been. Now that everyone knows that she has a boyfriend, people losses interest in them.

This is a fact, and there is nothing that can prove me wrong. If you see a female with a male, while you tried to be with the female in any activity, you will instantly drop out, and if you accept it, you are either gay or a female yourself. No touching grass faggotery, not incel things, is just a natural reaction. You can wish them hapiness and stuff, but in the end you also will be jelly that you can't find happiness yourself, unless you have it already.

Or tell me, did you actually tried to hit on girls that you know will never give you attention in the past, or that you know they have someone else for themselves?

>>25957615
>I have a folder with 1700 images of this girl

>>25947254
>>25950111
Same for me. Didn't watch yesterday though.

>>25957425
>I still can't believe she gave her cats away to move in with a new boyfriend.
You what?

>>25957615
You're an idiot sandwich

>>25957425
>she gave her cats away to move in with a new boyfriend
She deserves to suffer.

>>25957684
I was reeled in specifically because she was entertaining, then fell for her after a few months and because of /vt/ conditioning. If I'd never been on /vt/ or she always had a relationship, I probably wouldn't have dropped her.

>>25957425

>>25957764
>fell for her because of /vt/, the most anti-Nyanners place on the internet
What?

>>25956851
>It's part of her charm.
do cucks really?

Verification not required

>>25957425
>I still can't believe she gave her cats away to move in with a new boyfriend.
>she gave her cat identity away both literally and metaphorically (by not streaming)
actual poetry

>>25957235
>from LA
He's from Ohio though

>>25957804
I was referring to the whole mental illness of seeing vtubers as your girlfriends that goes on here, which I absolutely fell for. And as to what you said... always fun to root for the underdog.

>>25956805
Thanks for the mature reply.
There's a fine line between what "stupid shit" actually means, though. Being on /vt/ for a while, I've seen that mean anything between some decent advice and "talking with this other chuuba I don't like". Some of the criticism is just stuff like "she collabed with a male she's just a whore now", and quite often it's expressed in a pretty shitty way that almost anyone actually reasonable will get mad over.
The other thing is exactly as I wrote in my post. A streamer owes their fans in general, not any one particular fan in particular. And people have this shitty tendency to see their way as the only right way and small things as the end of the world. If say Pekora collabs with Roberu and some group of fans go up in arms, that doesn't make them right. Criticism is an opinion like anything else.
But yeah, if you express your criticism maturely and a chuuba blows up at you in particular, the chuuba is in the wrong then...because in that case, they would be the asshole. If you are a dick with your criticism and the chuubs blows up at you...well, you are a dick and kinda deserve it.

Keep seething as they collab with your holo oshis, that’s basically what your known fr anyway rofl

>>25957764
My dude, she is bottom trash tier levels of entretainment. She got into vtubing purely becuase she saw that the market was rising, asked her paypigs to cash in for her model and rigging, and the rest is story. Bitch didn' even stream or had any content in the past against SOME OTHERS one that you know well, and she sucks at videogames harder than anybody else. At the very end, Veibae, while being the biggest whore ever, KNOWS AND KINDA plays shit. Watching shit memes with your audience has to be one of the most pathetic ways to put content for the sake of it, since you are basically not doing anything yourself. At least Coco had the decency to fucking do collabs with holos when she did that shit.

>>25957425
>She gave her cats away
Please tell me you made that up. I have no faith in someone from Vshojo, but giving up your pets to chase dick cross country is fucked in such a way that I genuinely expect more from even somewhat shitty people.

>>25957871
Anon, as someone who's been aware of Nyanners since she first posted on /a/ over a decade ago, I have to ask what your thoughts were on all the talk about how she's two-faced and such regarding her old 4chan-centric persona that she moved away from. Did you never look into it at all? Did you just think it was fabricated or heavily exaggerated? Or did you somehow avoid hearing it entirely? What do you think of it now?

>>25957871
You must be a legit idiot if you think Nyanners is the underdog in any situation

>>25957913
cope, she still mogs a ton of your shitty holo talents

>>25950111
incel

>>25947254
Nah, people care about that shit. Even porn stars that have boyfriends lose fans because they have an SO

>>25957976
The dude she's known for two months has a cat allergy, what else could she have done? please understand.

>>25958111
Whore

>>25956941
lol
lmao

>>25957892
>But yeah, if you express your criticism maturely and a chuuba blows up at you in particular, the chuuba is in the wrong then...because in that case, they would be the asshole. If you are a dick with your criticism and the chuubs blows up at you...well, you are a dick and kinda deserve it.
Let's be real anon, in almost all cases the fan who complained gets painted as the bad guy by the fans of the vtuber, no matter how innocent they may be. It takes an incredibly massive fuck-up on the vtuber's part for opinion to turn on them and support the nobody they attacked. Like that Sariel(?) girl who was shitting on people trying to help her.

>>25958105
Cool I should watch her. She must be good if she has that many subs.
When is she streaming?

>>25957976
well, maybe she'll take them back?
it's kinda lame

>>25947103
>Give me money so my boyfriend can creampie me every night
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST UNSUBSCRIBE, HOW IS MY HECKIN SQUEEZE GONNA GET HIS BEER MONEY NOW???
you think they would learn

>>25958111
roasty

>>25957913
>Bitch didn' even stream or had any content in the past
She moved into doing ASMR and sometimes normal facecam streams for like a year before she switched to being a vtuber.

This is what happens when you are an outright whore and announce it to the world.

>>25958197
Oh nyo she does it for one stream whatever will we do!
unlike holoshits we don’t cancel our oshi’s over it, maybe cover will actually elp the talents next time? Or actually put money into their models but ya know they’d rather put it into shitty animations rather then models and rigging

>>25957615
This hurts to read. I'm sorry anon. I hope you can find a better oshi who is more deserving of you

>>25958225

>>25958105
How am I coping if I used to follow Nyanners back in 2011, incel? Fuck off. This is not about mogging, or anything, she legit isn't entretaining herself. And if I followed her, was mostly because she did content for my favorite page upon today, 4Chan.

People can say that they support the relationship with any body, not only Nyanners, but in the very end, they will envy you or just not support it at all.

>>25958400
Cope

>>25958285

> one stream

I wish I was as retarded as you.l

>>25958285
>unlike holoshits we don’t cancel our oshi’s over it
Clearly you do: >>25947103
It can only be assumed the thousand or so people remaining are the ultra turbo cucks like you.

>>25958268
Ok dude, that's not content.
>BUT YOUR HOLOBRONNIES ALSO DO ASMR
Yes, I know. Yet I don't consume myself ASMR.

>>25957425
>Giving up her pets and her job for him

She's desperate and suicidal. There's not other explanation to drop you entire life and move cross-country. I'm glad, she should have let me groom her. I don't have a cat allergy

>>25957425
that's bullshit, right? there's no fucking way

>>25958443
What kind of content do you think qualifies then? Streaming games exclusively? Pekora and Aqua were both doing the same thing before they became vtubers.
Also, taking this as me being a fan of Nyanners and disliking Hololive is a strange assumption and actually the opposite of the truth.

pink cat bad but unironically.

>>25958285
>whatever will we do!
Keep waiting for the next stream, I guess.
>unlike holoshits we don’t cancel our oshi’s over it, maybe cover will actually elp the talents next time?
Why would we want cover to defend menhera bitches that break the contract and devalue the brand and cause problems for their coworkers? If you don't want to be an idol, don't join an idol company. It really is that simple.

>>25957892
Your welcome. I like having actual conversations about things on here sometimes with anons because it's interesting to see how they view things, and other places like reddit are such dog shit for actually having a discussion.
>Being on /vt/
Anything on /vt/ is addressed to /vt/, none of it is ever addressed to the streamer even if it's written like it is. There are only anons here, no streamers. If something is actually said to a streamer, whether if be via tweet, marshmallow, YouTube chat/comments etc. that could be said to have been said to them, and usually those are MUCH more civil. Even the infamous Connor incident with Mori started out with a fairly polite superchat, which she proceeded to have a meltdown over instead of nicely explaining her point of view to them, actually partially proving the guys point as they were the direct cause of the entire many episode drama. As the other anon said as well, even if the criticism is founded, other fans will immediately attempt to discredit it in an effort to appear "positive" and "supporting" of the streamer, which to someone easily influenced can actually mentally insulate them to the point they believe all criticism is simply hate instead of an opportunity t listen, consider, and potentially improve. Kiara will be a good example of this in the future, I think, if stars en ever comes to fruition.

>>25958439
Cough cough rushia, polka, haachama

>>25958574
Based.

>>25958400
she has entertaining personality and is easy to listen to.
that's really not something you often find in women.

perhaps you aren't the only one who noticed that. perhaps jacked LA musician noticed it too.

>>25958020
I really appreciate you asking me this earnestly anon, but I'm not exactly motivated to talk about this general topic at length again after doing so hundreds of times over the past two years (especially now that I have zero reason to defend her). Plus, I need to wake up early tomorrow. Tell you what, next Nyanners bait thread, remind me to answer you and I will if I catch your post. I'm hologey anon, I'll verify it's still me by adding a note in the hologey folder.
https://mega.nz/folder/L2pCxDTA#qEi3BztGLnvYo1WDQJJfBQ

>>25958429
Oh no they collab once a week and play games, how devious

>>25958429
>one stream
I don't know why

>>25958496
it's probably temporarily. I hope.

>>25958316
Nah thanks, I'll be more useful to the world doing literally anything but more of this type of obsessive autism.

>>25958633
I missed last week's collab. Do you have the link?

>>25957425
>Gave her cats away for new bf
From now on, no one can say there aren't any legit reasons to hate pink cat.

Simping for someone else's girlfriend is fucked up.
Don't you have any respect for their relationship?
You're like a dog waiting for scraps to fall off the table.
Fucking creepy.

>>25958574
as the anon who literally came up with the phrase pink cat bad back during the first /vt/ nyan bait threads to downplay criticism of her
based.

>>25958588
Haachama has a boyfriend?

>>25958531
yes I like seeing girls being shit at vidya, unironically, and I don't follow Pegora nor Aqua except when she used to play BASED LEAGUE OF LEGENDS
She kept doing covers and stuff and random memes, at some point it was okay, but then I realized it was a little too much dumb shit and the fact that she did it randomly at times

>>25958592
Entertraining personality is subjetive as fuck to each one. People think Nimu is entertaining as hell and all what she does is LITERALLY just spout random shit and be with e-celebs.

oh btw after mouse/haachama collab it’ll be nyanxhaachama

its funny how when a woman announces she has a boyfriend, the tinted glasses come off. less funny, less charming, less entertaining, less everything. almost like you now have an unbiased view. waitresses need money, musicians produce something valuable, nyanners is an e-celebrity. no point in sticking around anymore for nyancucks

>>25958598
I'll probably forget but I guess I'll try to remember and check for a thread tomorrow. I might've argued with you myself since I used to be a real Nyanners anti. Also,
>I'm hologey anon
Based

>>25958771
yeah, me

>>25958813
Cope holoshit

>>25958705

mfw

>>25958198
I don't deny that fans can get pretty rabidly defensive. That's just how the internet works; post any opinion and there will be some people dog-piling you. It doesn't just apply to chuubas. And most chuubas ignore 99.99% of the shit they get and only respond when it gets overwhelming or particularly bad anyway; they don't blow up on everyone that criticizes them. Fans are not the chuuba themselves, and you can't really control every single one of them.
And looking at the big picture. If most of the vtuber's fans stick with their oshi and disregard a person's criticism, then how valid is said criticism really? Is it really that person being in the right, or is that guy just trying to project their template on the Oshi without regard for what the chuuba herself wants to do?

>>25958850
You know anon's right and you have no way of rebuking it. Cope nyancuck.

>>25958584
>Kiara will be a good example of this in the future, I think, if stars en ever comes to fruition.
You think Kiara's been insulated like that? I don't really follow her but from what I've seen of her all this time I had the impression that she was initially way too soft for the position she was in, but she toughened up over time and became a more respectable streamer. Do you think she's gone too far the other way and gotten a big head?

>>25958913
not right in t slightest rofl, she still mogs tons of holoshits, she has a collab with haachama, keep seething as she collabs woth tour oshi’s holoshits

>>25958467
>Suicidal and desperate
As someone who has moved cross country before without telling anyone, this is most likely exactly what is in head

>>25958674
The only sane anon in this thread

https://youtu.be/UkXq1kRtY0E

The audience is made into a third wheel when a boyfriend is revealed and made part of the stream

>>25958965
oh just falseflagging, lame
just anti her honestly

Holokeks seethe

>holofags absolutely refuse cuckcontent
>vwhorefags try to shame you for refusing said content
maybe I was wrong about you holobros

>>25959041
confirmed by her and mouse, haachama is going to collab with most of the vshojo girls

>>25958871
>they don't blow up on everyone that criticizes them.
Unless they're Mori.

>>25957164
Their thinking isn't different they're just not as invested in the delusion.

>>25958993
are you serious, man?
maybe she's just in love or something.

I did all types of stupid shit when I was in love in college. perhaps that's her case too

>>25959118
let it be known that i was a long time vshojofag before the bf shit and i concur that these anons are retarded and do not belong on this board

>>25959118
Vshojo is in with hololive btw

>>25959150
Yeah and a lot of people have shitted on you for that. Animals are a different aspect, you NEVER put any m*le before your pets.

>>25959150
Are you a woman or a soi

>>25959170
Cope

>>25947294
>she hasnt streamed in 3 weeks
>has a comeback stream
>w-wait until she streams even more
Face it; she tried to do what Mousey did and it failed because she doesnt understand why Mouses relationship got popular.

>>25959150
>college
Dude she's in her thirties

>>25947616
>you won't pay a street artist
no never, fuck them

>>25947382
^unironically, seriously from the chat

>>25959141
>Yelled at someone not even in her fucking chat about her Boring over reliance on shrek jokes

>>25959229
>>25959058
>>25958850
>>25958427
forget your selen image?

>>25948876
Can't they just tip on the app?

>>25958940
>You think Kiara's been insulated like that?
No, not yet I don't think. I remember she asked her chat if it was okay to collab with men, and most said yes but some said no. More people talked about and mocked the ones who said no than about why she'd asked, or even why the ones who said no said what they did, simply blaming it on the gachis, reddit and twitters favorite boogieman. A lot of the people here who watch the holos a lot often cite their enjoyment of them as a "cgdct" or it being like a "slice of life anime", which I can understand as I like the stars and their appeal of them being just bros hanging out being bros, guys doing guy things etc. Doing collabs with guys all the time would start to wear on that for them, so she should be careful not to overdo it and annoy that kind of fan, plus it takes a certain kind of maturity for a woman in particular to do streams with men maturely and professionally without flirting, inviting drama, shippers, etc. Fubuki for instance did collabs with the stars, and did so well by having both parties act nice and respectful of one another, even if it hurt her initially. I'm not sure if Kiara would handle it well, but I can see it going one of two ways. Either the fans who are more hesitant will say so, they'll get drowned out by the more "reddit" crowd and Kiara won't listen even if they have valid points, which many of them surprisingly do, allowing herself to become insulated, or she'll listen and ask questions before making a mature decision on the subject with trust in herself to behave in such a way that those fans won't be bothered by it. Most Unicorns, gachis, etc. are actually incredibly reasonable when you talk to them, even on /here/.

>>25952269
These bitches are everywhere. They're in my fucking walls, man. I was just thinking about it the other day and I realized my mother is a woman, and so are her sisters, and so is my gran. Shit is fucking wild out there. They're everywhere, it's too late.

>>25949975
good match for a fat rapidly aging woman

>>25952647
Lurk moar then and stfu

>>25959281
Leak from here. Look up "nyanslings" and "nyan goslings" in the archive, it was a real thing. I kinda started in since I used to be a teammate before falling for nyan.

>>25957806
>cucked
>by a whore
>by a woman that you have actively sought out with the express intent to pay for some kind of no strings sexual activity
>with whom your entire relationship is necessarily and openly transactional with no deeper implications or obligations and who only promises your money's worth

I'm fairly certain that you don't know what most of the words you've used there mean, possibly not separately but definitely not together. It may be that you should avoid using buzzwords and jargon until you've made sure to understand them.

>>25959332
>Does it while in a collab with other people
>Goes for a second round afterwards
The way she just kept going is really what kills me. Like holy fuck it was already awkward enough but she can't let it go.

>>25947339
I kneel

>>25958584
Hmm, that's actually a fair point. The stuff that /vt/ says doesn't leak out of 4chan very often. I concede that point.
The mori situation was kinda interesting, since my knowledge of the event timeline was a little different. Now, I don't watch Mori and only know the timeline from clips, so please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. But my understanding is:
>Some dude superchats Mori with an pretty respectful criticism on Connor. I disagree with the post obviously, but it wasn't rude at all.
>Mori gets a bit mad and says she'll donate any such superchats to the person in question. This was rude, certainly, and it would be fair if people criticized her on this.
>Instead, people start spamming messages of Mori getting fucked by Connor and stuff, generally escalating this whole thing completely out of proportion.
I would have agreed with you in general. Mori did take more offense at the akasupa than she should have and was the asshole there. But the ensuing crapstorm went well beyond what I would call reasonable criticism and went straight into /vt/-tier rrat territory.
I do agree that fans can be overly defensive of their oshis, though. It's something that happens with everything on the internet, but that doesn't make it right when they villify people who are making respectful criticism. As long as the "valid criticism" line isn't used to justify some of the stuff /vt/ says, I would concede the point overall.
Thanks for that informative post.

>>25959381
Well, it sounds like more consideration than she gave to the Nyanners collab and people objecting to that.
And yeah, I do really respect the Holostars for how professional they are. It's even somewhat of a gag for girls to push Roberu with flirty talk and him to deftly dismiss it in response. They're both friendly and professional, with the latter being completely lacking in groups like NijiEN.

>>25959616
The cuck artwork was a week old on twitter when she commented on it. Mori is obsessed with her haters and trying to pioneer new ways to "own them"
This has yet to work

>>25947391


A professional anime-girl streamer isn't 'any woman' though. If your whole job depends on appealing to an audience in some way, then they're going to get attached. It's basically the whole point in the first place really.

The implicit point that you and other posts like this make is that men (and whales like pochi-sensei) should treat streamers like prostitutes; you're only paying them for a good time.
Maybe that's true even, but most normal men are also not built that way; it feels 'soulless', depressing even, the kind of empty transactionalism they already get enough of in reality; they want things to 'matter', they want things to 'mean something more', and they can't stop wanting that.

>>25959692
https://youtu.be/TSpkyx7VSaU This was pretty interesting, she’s actually idk would you call it triggering? The anti’s
Also i think mouse is planning on collabing with holostars don’t qoute me on that though

>>25959777
I'm not that anon nor do I agree with him on this, but I will note that I have donated what probably now amounts to a fair bit of money to a male streamer I like to watch, simply to thank them for being entertaining. and for song requests, sure, that too.

>>25954255
This
Even if my JP oshi yab'd her entire career up (unlikely but you never know) at least I got something very valuable off of it and I can be thankful to her for the entertainment and language lessons she gave me.

>>25956851
Is there a stream where she fucks a dude? No? Why not?

>>25959917
Which is totally fine and possible of course; it's just unless your name is pewdiepie, that's not where the big numbers are.

>>25959777
There's many different kinds of attachment. I am subbed to my favorite male streamer's patreon and donate money when he streams, but I'm not gay or in love with him. I just like his work and want to support him so he can make more of it.
You can totally pay your oshi because you simply like their work and want to support them. Or develop feelings like respect or admiration that doesn't require a reciprocal that you're never going to get.

>>25960056
there is a woman that everyone says is melody who does porn, everything was based on the fact that she had stopped uploading content. but that woman is still uploading porn and she only has 3 views so the rat that is melody is false, why would melody upload porn with 4 views? having his twich channel with 5000 subscribers.

>>25960205


I think it's telling that the only counterfactuals people come up with to these points are male streamers.

>>25959616
>>Mori gets a bit mad and says she'll donate any such superchats to the person in question. This was rude, certainly, and it would be fair if people criticized her on this.
This part was the part that really fucked it up, it's the cause of the whole thing and the reason for your next point. Instead of maturely assuring the guy (who is/was obviously a fan of hers, and wanted her to avoid a situation that would make her unhappy, otherwise he wouldn't have cared enough to warn her) that she would conduct herself well, and would look out for any shady behavior from them to insure she doesn't associate with people who could hurt her, she instead mocked him for it, and MOST IMPORTANTLY she said she'd donate the money he'd given her to him. That last part isn't only rude, one could say it's outright hostile because that guy clearly didn't like Connor and would be uncomfortable with him gaining money from him even indirectly. This was probably seen on her /vt/ thread, twitter, reddit, and other places where they talked about it, whether mocking the guy like or reddit or annoyed with her like on here, which then inspired trolls here and elsewhere to go lolcow tipping on an obviously easy mark. Plus the Condom Money superchat was even reportedly sent by a fan of hers who did it as a joke, as an anon claiming to be him claimed in a thread. pic related
>>Instead, people start spamming messages of Mori getting fucked by Connor and stuff, generally escalating this whole thing completely out of proportion.
That one was made by a guy who hated TT for dunking on mecha anime, as I said previously, a troll who spotted an easy mark and decided to poke the lolcow. Obviously this all goes beyond the initial genuine criticism of that guy who warned against Connor, but it's a good example of what happens when you handle actual criticism as hate, you'll often end up getting it in the end.
>>25959692
Yeah, I hope she'll handle it well as I rarely see people deal with these things well and would love to see a good example of a talent acknowledging things like this but going forward with it anyway with assurance to the concerned fans that they're being listened to and heard, feeling like they're being ignored is the thing that tends to piss those types off most, and justifiably so so long as they're being reasonable. I just REALLY hope they hire good en stars so it's not a situation where she genuinely shouldn't involve herself with them.

>>25960290
Well yeah, because we are responding to a post that implies that men can't donate to streamers without an attachment (which, given the parent posts, means just "love").
Using a male streamer that you aren't in love with is thus a perfect counterexample.

>>25960654


>Well yeah, because we are responding to a post that implies that men can't donate to streamers without an attachment
I can see why you might think that, but that's not the implication. If you look at the matter in genderblind terms, you'll keep being confused.

>>25960766
Ah, you weren't clear about it before, but I see what you're getting at. You're saying that normal men cannot donate to a female streamers without lovie, but can donate to a male streamer with no emotions attached whatsoever.
So I'll use a different example. I donate to LucahJin sometimes too. She's married. In fact, a lot of the popular Western female streamers are married or have a bf already. So yeah, it may be true for you, but don't generalize it to all men.

>>25961892


It is generalizable though, the person using edge cases and their own personal experience as if universal here right now is you.

>>25947254
People would actually be more forgiving of most holos since they're actually really entertaining.
Although rubbing a relationship in peoples faces is pretty frowned upon in Japan, regardless of demographic.

>>25962310
Sure, so where's your proof?

>>25959371
Nta but apps like to take a percentage of the tips because fuck you.

>>25947736
Here's the actual stats.
847 subs, of which 247 are gifted.

>>25957615
>1700
goddamn, I have only around 270
how the fuck did you get so many?
You wouldn't be up for putting it on a share somewhere?

>>25962641


The virtual streamer market.

>>25959502
Most based take I've seen on this shithole board.
You deserve a (you)

>>25963561
Got actual data, or is this just another "trust me, I'm an expert at this" thing?

>>25947103
>no guys just wait the numbers will climb up again!
rumao

The funny thing is that ironically HE is way over her league, and lives in LA. I assume the reason she jumped so easily to move and leaver all her shit (and pets) behind is to keep an eye on the fucker.

Announcing a 2 month old relationship is like announcing a 2 week pregnancy. A lot of us here know Nyanners from way back, she's gonna fuck this up and now its all gonna be in public, she's gonna have to publicly announce their break up and its going to be funny for us but humiliatingly for her.

Sometimes i'm jealous of fame and all the benefits that come from it but things like these bring me back to reality, living an unassuming relaxing life is good too.

>>25963789
Yeah? Every single time something like this happens, without fail.

>>25963990
Don't be a faggot that stares at male bodies, he has a fucked up face and the fact he puts pictures up on the internet half naked makes it obvious he isn't particularly masculine.