/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>25916742
Holostars. I'd rather be a 50view than having to deal with nijiniggers.

Nijisanji EN
>Why
Because I'll get to do what I want, interact with the girls if I so choose to and actually be supported by the company.

>>25916799
well I don't think you are honest. Why given up all the free Niji pussies

NijiEN (to destroy it from within)

Niji, because I won't be treated like a second-class citizen

Holo because I would rather stream alone or with my gen mates than having to collab 90 percent of the week.

>>25916742
Of coz NijiEN
off collab to hotels, whatever you name it
best kind of life
only reallly STUPID or SUPER GAY guy will pick Holostars

>>25916799
Most honest poster on /vt/

>>25916868
>having to collab
Do they really have to?

>>25916742
Holostars, if i applied that means im ok with how they are seperated already. Why not Niji? Because i dont want to deal with twitch emote spamming discord retards who use those words in their vocabulary.

>>25916742
Niji, instantly.
There is not a single positive point in joining holosharts

>>25916742
Holo simply because I rather be in the black company without physical abuse reports.

>>25916742
People who pass up Niji pussies and choose Stars should neck themselves

>>25916742
NijiEN
I would like to be friends with Pomu.

On the one hand, I hate the existing nijimales and don't want to talk to them
On the other, I want to fuck pomu

>>25916742
Holostars, two main reasons
>I won't collab with females, even if they want (Ollie, Iofi) because I'm a sperg that can speak with a female and I don't want to show it to the world
>Avoiding Bilibili and the chinese fanbase is a big plus too

>>25916977
No not really, but it's probably necessary if you want to get out of the 2view hole

>>25916999
>Holo
>without physical abuse reports
Oh no, he doesn't know...

I swear to God anons picking Stars ITT are definitely lying, no fuck way, Niji is a harem man, free cock sleeves

>>25916742
NijiEN = money & women
Holostars = no money & no money

>>25917098
Of course they are lying.
In reality, cover has to remind people that they have auditions to StarsEN, because not a single person applied.

>>25916742
holostars - colab with holoen, watch /vt/ melt then quit

>>25916742
>Nijisanji
>More viewers
>More superchats
>More game permissions
>Get complete creative freedom
>Get access to collabing with indies and other corpos
>Can freely interact with women
>Ironically have a higher chance of being able to fuck a Holo through Apesex tournament afterparties

>Holostars
>1/10th the viewers
>Virtually no viewers
>Constantly micromanaged by omegatroon with zero freedom
>Can't play half the games on Steam because staff are too lazy to get permissions
>Can't collab with anyone outside of Hololive
>Can't interact with women at all
>Not even allowed to attend Apex afterparties because of the risk of a scandal with female co-workers.

If you genuinely think Holostars is a good choice you're a brony.

>>25917098
I don't like sloppy 5ths anon.

>>25916742
>join nijien
>get to stay in hotel rooms with the girls
>the older ones are more thirsty and willing to put out for a wild one night fling

what is the disadvantage?

>>25916742
I should choose Niji and try to make Pomu my wife but I might choose Holo for a comfy quiet life free of the inevitable failure in making Pomu my wife and the suicide that would follow as a result.

Males who pick Stars over Nijiharem is super gay

>>25916742
holostars no contest

>>25916837
why give up on blue waffle? Gee I dunno

>>25917226
okay more assholes for you, Stars boy

>>25917098
>sharing your cock sleeves with your bros
Yeah you get to fuck them while they filled with Luxiem cum, nice. I like hard things, im going to make Lamy my GF or die trying.

>>25916742
niji because in holo ina already mogs me in art skill so I won't have a niche, plus I don't want to be gay

>>25917368
I think the fact you'll be willingly sucking the cum of another man out of your oshi is what's gay here nijinigger.

>>25917454
Nta, but you are willing to suck cum right from the source, anon.

>>25916742
be a Holostar = fucking unicorns think I cuck them but I've never done shit

be a NijiEN male = fans love to ship het couple so I can actually fuck the Niji girls

>>25916742
materialistically, Niji En.
If i want to follow my heart Holo Stars as I get to hangout with Roberu who is better than all the Niji En combined

>>25917454
nta but you'd have a higher chance of dating a holo as a niji, unless that's what you're implying that holos are whores. stars are full homos or indie groomers like roberu

>>25916977
No. That's Hololive mentality thinking collabs are "forced" or "required."
>>25917077
Lux and Noct boys had higher CCV than the girls even during the collab ban.

This talk is retarded, men getting themselves sexually involved with other talents in their work is fucking stupid in every form, historically speaking shit like this end up with you being sued by a menhera, and Niji girls are just normalass women anyway, nothing particularly special about their IRL selves.

No matter if you're Niji or Holo you will be much better just fucking your cute fangirls instead.

>>25917754
>nothing particularly special about their IRL selves
Pomu is an angel who's been through a lot and keeps trying her best. Pomu is an angel.

>>25917806
You must be Ironmouses biggest fan then.

>>25917754
>historically speaking shit like this end up with you being sued by a menhera
Japan doesn't have dumb shit like women's rights anon they can't sue you for workplace sex affairs while working for a Japanese company.

>No matter if you're Niji or Holo you will be much better just fucking your cute fangirls instead.
Now that's actually how you get stabbed in a love hotel by a menhera, trust me dude male vtuber fangirls are insane, they make rosebuds look normal.

>>25917754
I will fuck Hoshikawa and nothing you say can dissuade me

>>25916742
Nijisanji. I'd milk those chinks

Holostars, solely because I don’t want to pander to the Chinese.

RUMAO Holobronies rejecting Niji pussies and picking Stars assholes

The purest of faggots

>>25916742
I don't watch nijisanji, but I'd rather not sabotage my career and die in obscurity by being a holostar.

>>25916742
Holostars because I've actually watched and enjoyed their streams before.

>>25917754
A free fuckable hole is a good hole, unless its a male's asshole. Niji has so many collabs and off collabs, oh boyyyy

>>25917723
>Roberu
Is that a Holostart who is absolutely boring and is relatively popular among other Holostars only because he leeched countless other chuubas? That one who got memed as a "winning son"?

>>25916799
Not gonna lie its kinda tiring to be a Nijinigger huh

Which do I pick if I want to be romantically involved with Pomu Rainpuff

>>25917922
Only Vox does. Reimu's duolingo stream was her pandering to Vox.

>>25917723
But is he better than Niji JP though?

>>25916742
Neither.

>>25918203
Realistically? Neither and you stop watching VTubers all together.

NijiEN so I could have sex with Rosemi

>>25918373
Never watched Niji en chubbas except for Chima, Hoshikawa, Mito, Kuzuha, Kanae, Levi, Oliver and Amania.
So far, I like Hoshikawa the most in terms of entertainment then Probably Roberu. Chima is my Niji oshi purely because of her singing

>>25916742
NijiEN would most likely give me a better chance to meet my oshi. In Holostars I'd have to constantly leech Roberu to get anywhere.

>>25916742
NijiEN, I'll milk the fujos and graduate after one year.

As much as it is tempting to be in NijiEN and the freedoms that come with it, I would probably still say Holostars because if I see Astel achieve levels of kino that puts most other corpo chuubas to shame, I want that too. So what if I get less viewers, less CCV or whatever shit you numberfags spout, I just want to leave a mark with the kino I could achieve. The harder the struggle, the greater the triumph.

People really thinking that they can have their way with the girls. Like come on guys!!!
And if you are committed like me, I think HOlostars is a much safer place

>>25918203
Be a successful manly guy, be more into /jp/-style hobbies than vtubers

>>25917754
>Niji girls are just normalass women anyway, nothing particularly special about their IRL selves
Wrong. If you fuck a Niji girl, you cuck thousands of Nijifans. You feel like a true alpha.

>>25918745
>you cuck thousands of Nijifans
Even better, they'll love it.

>>25918660
>People really thinking that they can have their way with the girls. Like come on guys!!!
Of course you can, if you collab & flirt with the girls all the time, talk with them 24/7, plan trips together. Niji definitely has lot of cock sleeves you can enjoy.
>And if you are committed like me, I think HOlostars is a much safer place
wtf.... do you mean safe? You're just a committed gay.

>>25916799
fpbp

>>25918745
>you cuck thousands of Nijifans
But is it really a cucking if they enjoy it?

>>25916742
Holostars, because I want the challenge

>>25916742
I guess if you only wanted to stream on the side for extra cash and didn't mind being a 500view Stars would be the easier choice. That's the JP model though, for all we know Cover upper management saw Luxiems numbers and are devising an EN group so faggy they'll make nijien guys look like the straightest men alive.

NIJISANJI every single time.

>more viewers and views
>more superchats
>more memberships
>more merchandise
>no segregation like a fucking jew in the 40s
>being able to collab with whoever I want (EN/JP, male vtuber/female vtuber, Nijisanji/Vshojo/Indie)
>more freedom when it comes to my content
>more game perms so I don't have to play the same shit again and again

If I was in a position to be a vtuber full-time there is no way that I would pick Holostars.
>make fuck-all money
>hated by thousands of people
>hated and ignored by all Hololive girls
>ignored by my own company
>having to stay at my cuckshed and eat whatever crumbs they throw at me
>having to be a ultra faggot idol (like faggots or even secret trannies like Astel and Izuru)

This is not even a contest.

Holostars because otherwise I'd get fired for constantly trying to nanpa Pomu

>>25919208
And you'll get fired and stabbed if you flirt with hologirls.

>>25916742
There's no way I could be a streamer because I yell "nigger" and "faggot" at my screen when I get mad at videogames.

>>25919083
> This is not even a contest.
Are there are a lot of holobronies passing up Niji pussies for a Stars position, it's insane

>>25919084
>devising an EN group so faggy they'll make nijien guys look like the straightest men alive
a bigger faggot than Vox? I would like to see Cover try

>>25919257
Yeah but I don't want to flirt with them.

Niji, I'd fuck the girls and then post proof

>>25916989
I hate ppl spamming "POG" in the chat or steamers who say that shit unironically and especially OUTSIDE of twitch.

Any sane man would choose Niji.
Your job is flirting with cute girls.
And you get a lot of money.
When your dick feel stabby, teach those Nijisluts a lesson.

>>25919321
nothing to do with pussies, anon
you won't get pussies in Nijisanji
you won't get pussies in Hololive

in Holostars though you are staying in a literal cuckshed and the girls don't even want to respond to you on Twitter to congratulate you on an achievement

you are the lepper, the clown, the laughing stock of the vtuber industry

In NIJISANJI you have a legit shot at success.

Any MAN that respected themselves would choose to be a Niji.

>>25919399
Vox isn't the faggiest EN male, he only wants to get fucked in the ass by an animatronic bear. Now if they get someone gayer than Uki, that's when I'll kneel.

>>25917015
Who wouldn't pass on ugly fat bitches from Chinksanji?

>>25919617
>you won't get pussies in Nijisanji
LOL
no fucking way

>>25919723
10 times better than gay

>>25916742
>which
niji
>why
success

>>25919787
it's the truth, anon
It would be cool if you could but that's not the case

it's money/success/popularity that makes NIJISANJI the only viable option for a male vtuber

except if you have a cuck fetish then you can be a holostar

>>25916742
What people are passing up on though, is that you can still get pussy if you join Holostars. Look at Roberu. The condition is: dont be a success. If HoloStarsEN is a mild flop, they will let you collab with anyone you want, and you will still have some clout because of holopro. People would collab with you. You could make a harem out of midtier indies or get some small corpo girls pushed onto you by their management desperation for growth (I would think Tsunderia and Prism to be capable of this).

>>25918660
Imagine thinking Nina didnt get dick in any of her offcollabs. Or that Finana isnt an extremely groomable young girl. Or that Mika isnt looking for a way out of Indonesia into a first world country. Hell, I think you can even get Rosemi now that she is into her "growing up my persona"/"Valorant with the boys" arc.

>>25917747
there's no collab ban within the branch
>but first week
Fulgur and Alban joined Petra's open VC GOI stream on their first week
also would be awkward showing your first schedule on debut with a non-wavemate collab

OP
>Would you join Holo or Niji?
Thread
>Would you fuck Holos or Nijis?

>>25920366
well said

> you can still get pussy if you join Holostars. Look at Roberu
The problem is, in order to maintain Stars' image, some of the Stars have to act autistic and rarely collab with girls. If I join Stars, I could be assigned to that role.

>>25920655
it's more like you want to fuck Nijipussies or Starsholes

Niji:
>Get more money from Chinese fujos
>Actually Collab with the girls you want to fuck
>Get to support China and their fight against western imperialism
Holo
>Hotter/better girls (you won't talk with them)
>It's hololive

Might be Niji with this one folks

>>25917191
The only part that you got right about Holostars is the views and for the rest the truth is literally the opposite of what you wrote.

>>25920923
Starfags confirmed.

Do you guys think I would have a shot with Enna if I joined Niji? She's my number one choice. I know I could fuck Nina if all else fails though.

>>25916742
Neither, if I wanted to stream I would stream as myself because im a western male.

>>25921007
>Do you guys think I would have a shot with Enna if I joined Niji? She's my number one choice.
is Enna a slut? Are you her type? Do you have a big cock?

> I know I could fuck Nina if all else fails though.
This is a solid plan B.

>>25921058
goodluck 2 view

>>25921119
>Don't think so
>About 6inches
>Probabky not

>>25916742
Niji.
Because I'm a guy.
Unironically there is a lot of potential for growth in holostars but you will be very limited in how you can act.
If you go to Niji and say outright that you're straight or that a character in a game is hot then it's all good but do that in Stars and you're crucified.

>>25920825
>Collab with the girls you want to fuck

>Nijifags
"You'll never have sex with her Holocorn"
>Also Nijifags
"I would join NijiEN to fuck the girls"

Explain

>>25921171
I said if I wanted to, im not a faggot so I don't want peoples attention.

>>25916742
Nijisanji there, I'd have a pretty good chance of working my way in and fucking Chigusa as she seems to like foreigners.

>>25921179
>6 inches
I am sorry, anon

>>25920655
believing that Nijis fuck each other is the only way Holofags cope about Stars being a failure and the laughing stock of the industry

There is no reason to join holostars instead of NIJISANJI

except, I guess, being a NIJISANJI reject

>>25916742
I just want to get into Niji so I can be bros with Maimoto, he is a really cool guy. I could also have more freedom of choice instead of being hold my the CoverLeash.
I can't help but imagine how nice would it be to be able to collab with Maimoto, Pomu, Pikamee and Tamaki.

>>25916799
Fpbp

>>25921238
>Also Nijifags
>"I would join NijiEN to fuck the girls"

it's not NIJISANJI fans that post that, dear catposter

it's one schizo trying to cope about stars not being successful
his post style is obvious throughout the thread

>>25916799
Nijiniggers aren't the ones that gave millions of views to dox videos on YouTube, pretty sure that was Holofans.

>>25921276
>Holofags cope about Stars being a failure and the laughing stock of the industry
They don't. They hate Holostars' existance.

>>25921238
Whats there to explain? There is no conflict.
Holobronies can't fuck Holos. NijiEN male can fuck EN girls.

>>25918373
I literally know nothing about NijiJP so

>>25920655
Kek

>>25916742
realistically i wouldn't try to fuck anyone because it would be my job and i don't get involved like that with people from work. collabs are another story. it's not like i'd only be doing collabs but i think i'd go for niji because they have more chuubas that seem fun to collab with, but holostars is very close behind as the guys also seem fun.
this implies that the japanese would even be interested in a collab with me but we're already beyond fanfic territory by imagining i'd pass both auditions so i took the liberty of also imagining that.
i also like apex and niji has more apex retards to play with compared to holostars.

>>25921336
>it's not NIJISANJI fans that post that
Is that why most posts in this thread seem like they're made by redditors?
>it's one schizo trying to cope about stars not being successful
I don't know why he would do that, but I think it's unhealthy

>>25917747
cope

>>25921443
Then you need to start watching Maimoto, he is a really nice dude and a true bro. He is that kind of person you instinctively thinks "this guy have a good heart, it would be nice to be friends with him"

Stars is a gay prison.
Niji is a harem palace.

I'd probably join niji just because holo live is too pg for me.

>>25916742
Why do incels only care about malechuubas when they interact with females so they can self-insert that their fucking?

Nijiniggers really think the Hololive and Stars should work the same way as their shithole coombait trash are delusional considering the two are nothing alike.

>>25921712
>NijiEN bitches are literal unwashed whores and used goods
Nah, I'd rather not. I'm not desperate.

>Niji
>Treated like a king
>Holo
>2nd class citizen

You don't have to look far for reasons to ignore Holostars.

Isn't one of their new Uproar recruits a famous guy from his PL?

He actually joined Uproar and he's getting lower numbers!

You can't make this shit up.

>>25916742
after reading everything here i've confirmed no one in this thread watches Stars and doesn't know shit about how they work

>>25920999
Yeah, I am.
That said I would join NijiEN if I want it to be my main job because money and I'll graduate a few years later after I got sick of the constant collabs with coversations about sex and fujo pandering.
For a side job or hobby I would join Holostars because I can actually choose to do solo streams in peace and have collabs with guys that actually act like bros
Even better if it's HolostarsEN because being the first gen means you can set the branch culture to how you like it. Whereas if you join NijiEN you have no choice but to conform to the existing branch culture.

>>25921996
Then do you mind explaining? I'm genuinely curious, /vt/ brainwashed me into thinking they are being hold back by Cover and are just there as a pet

>>25921847
>Unwashed
God I want to smell Elira's stinky unwashed bush...

Niji
>Why?
I'll organize civ/starcraft tournament. Or maybe make Apex/Valo/TF2 tournament/custom lobby for EN vtuber.

>>25921990
>Isn't one of their new Uproar recruits a famous guy from his PL?
When he was famous, he was getting pussies (cross gender collab environment). When he goes full gay in Stars, he gets Stars number.

Never go full gay.

>>25921996
It's not this thread that doesn't watch Holostars, anon.

Nobody watches them.
It's so weird that even the Neo-Porte guys, that are not as big as NIJISANJI, get more viewers than most of Holostars and that's with them debuting their first wave a few months ago.

I think it's better to apply to NIJISANJI and if you can't get in you have Neo-Porte as a second option now with a distant third being Holostars.

How can NIJISANJI and Neo-Porte make male vtubers work but Cover can't is a mystery.

>>25922115
That thing about the first gen setting the branch culture is actually real. Stars could have being much better if the first gen's focus was actual entertainment instead of fujobaiting with those cringe models that looks like they just came out from a shojo manga

NijiEN so I can save Reimu and say slurs with Sonny off stream

>>25922159
Now that you say it, aren't the most popular guys, in Stars, Roberu and Astel, both of them frequent participants in mixed collabs?

Roberu with that Mea and Tamaki?
And Astel in mixed APEX teams?

It's funny how true it is.
Full gay = failure.
Hololive girls treating you like a lepper and not even congratulating you on Twitter = failure.

>>25916742
Holostars EN, Unironically going the E-Celeb route and leech off some E Celebs to get the bro audience

>>25922300
Assuming you get permission in first place

>>25916742
Brainless pick, niji.
You would get insane network with everyone in niji and could branch out to establish a line of merchandise of your liking. Look at the variety of nijimales merchandise and compare that to stars, massive difference.
Stars is shit because the main force that is Hololive will treat you as nonexistent beings. Collabing with the girls will get you and the girl crazy heat from holobronies. You're stuck doing stuff solo and/or with your genmates. Roberu had to claw his way out of that suffering

>>25922295
How would you go about saving her?

i'll be graduated within a month either way so i don't really see the difference

>>25922137
Stars basically functions as a different entity compared to Hololive. They have their own audience, appeals and their own circles outside of Hololive. Cover and the Hololive brand itself is more of a debuff to the boys then anything else. They do better when they collab outside of Holo and no, most of them aren't really interested in collabs with the girls.

/vt/ has this retarded obsession over how Stars is a failure because this place is infested with numberfags. Stars has their own audience that they've build because the boys themselves have stated multiple times they don't want to be accessories for the girls and know that there's almost zero overlap between their audiences. The Holoboys basically built themselves their own fanbase and have been doing fine for years now, they have cafes, concerts even fan meet ups. /vt/ likes to ignore any kind of success Stars have because "muh idol culture" instead of understanding it's amazing they made it this far despite how shit everyone treats them.

I need a family more than a business.
I choose Cover

>>25922137
Being a homo is a pretty nice gig

>Due to the smaller fan base, you have less schizo’s watching your every move
>all your co-workers are actually respectable people, who’ve stayed despite the hardship because they actually enjoy what they do
>while Hololive is kept at an arms length, literally every other corpo/indie are free to collab and often are more fun than Holo collabs
>you still get cute girls throwing money at you, even Uyu who avarages 200-300 viewers made $9,000 last month
>you won’t have to act like a faggot or pander to chinks
>even if you don’t have big numbers, you’ll still get 3D and a concert

>>25922189
Isn't Neo-Porte a mix group? Also doesn't that other guy hangout with one of the Holostars new boys a lot?

Cover's main audience are coomers that like waifus, anon. Do you really think their going to watch male chuubas? Stars has their own fanbase that has almost no overlap with the girls, the Stars audience doesn't give a shit about the Hologirls most of the time.

NijiEN for a week before getting fired for saying niggerfaggot on stream and getting a better offer to Holostars for following tradition

>>25922989
True. Infact i like stars quite a lot.
One of the reasons i respect the stars is because of Fubuki. The Nijiniggers actually no nothing about stars and are commenting
>Le Gay bois
or
>Le accessories

>>25923188
it's wild to think the Holostars have a lot of loyal oil barons despite never really pander, having pretty much no schizos and they don't rely on chinks

>>25922408
Here’s what people don’t get, anon
Hololive is the walled garden.
Holostars is the experimental guinea pig.
Due to the smaller fan base, Holostars is pretty much given free reign on what to do since nobody’s gonna make a big fuss if something goes wrong, that’s why they are the first to play different games, test out new 3D tech, and collab the most with outsiders. Stars management is fundamentally different than Hololive management, and StarsEN will probably continue that trend.

>>25923291
Stars fanbase is so normal and quiet, like everything is so chill and it's just people enjoying the Stars and talking about their oshi.

Astel's birthday concert plus lore dump was wild and Gamma's drawing streams are so good.

>>25917754
seiyuu fans are a special audience then, their favorite seiyuu always receive a fuck ton of congratulations for marrying.

Source : any married seiyuu MAL page.

>>25923467
this. the holostars have a lot more freedom compared to the girls and their fanbase is pretty much schizo free so anything that happens never turns into anything big, they can do pretty much whatever they want as long as they can avoid yab which the boys are professionals at

>>25922159
>he goes full gay in Stars
He is the first uproar that collabed with female (CHiCO Honeyworks)

>>25923187
The biggest problem with stars is fujos don't like them because Cover's culture is too sanitized to allow them their fujo delusions to run wild. Yet they still spend all their efforts pandering to fujos. It really is just that you can't have an "idol" company for male vtubers while still holding them to the standards of idols. The funny thing is all the male idol gacha games fill their rosters with degenerate, abusive, or damaged guys that women are actually attracted to. None of the women in Japan wanna watch Astel sing Disney songs, they wanna watch Vox talk about masturbation and CBT or Kuzuha calling people racial slurs in Apex.

>>25923474
Roberu's bae videos are pretty kino as well. And don't get me started on Rika's and Izuru's singing. Izuru has a dream to have a music Collab with all the holo pro.

I have 0 aspirations to be an idol, so I'd go with NijiEN.
>but you have to appeal to fujos
Easiest payday of my life.

>>25923626
>Vox
>Japan
>Kuzuha
>Female audience

>>25923626
>or Kuzuha calling people racial slurs in Apex.
Or talking about his hatred for fish bones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du-Co-OafZE

>>25916742
niji so i can become a vox 2.0 and graduate after 6months with millions of chinkbux

Holostars so I can gaslight starsen members who joined solely for the purpose of getting to meet their oshis to stay the fuck away. I will also heavily promote idol culture more and I will shame collab beggars on my audience everyday.

>I will be the hero idolfags deserve, but not the one it needs. Anti-idol will hunt me. Because I can take it for my oshi. Because I'm not their hero. I'm a silent guardian, a watchful protector. An Idol Chad.”

>>25916742
Niji
I want to have sex with Chima

>>25923626
>they still spend all their efforts pandering to fujos
Bro, almost no one in Stars panders to fujos, most of them just play games and do goofy shit with each other.
The only people that pander are Shien and Oga and they do it as joke, Shien's audience is majority females and whenever he does pander streams he gets supas asking for kisses because his fans prefer him as for (you).

>>25923626
>fujos don't like them
>spend all their efforts pandering to fujos
define fujoshi and fujo pandering.
the truth is two guys somewhat getting along on stream is all it takes for fujoshi to ship them together. whatever cringe shit the nijiEN males do isn't necessary, their JP counterparts get just as much fujos with barely any actual pandering. holostars doesn't spend all their efforts pandering to fujos either because they don't need to, they have cute anime guy designs, pleasant personalities, and get along well with each other when they collab. that is literally all you need.

>>25922989
The moment I truly found out there’s no overlap between the two fanbases was when Suisei was having her Anniversary live with 100k+ viewers, while at the same time Uproar’s first collab stream had a 2k waiting room. The Holostar box is a small one, so every single viewer they have they’ve built up by themselves.

>>25923798
>their JP counterparts get just as much fujos with barely any actual pandering.
EOP-chama the JP side has official pairings like Chronoir that do heavy fujopandering on their group channel.

>>25923748
Too late bro. meet Oga
>Miko nepotism hire
>Openly Lunaito
>Fuck FBK regularly
>Two ID are lusting for his dick

I'm going apply to niji so i can seduce salome desuwa.

>>25923036
Holostars is the only branch in Cover that actually feels like a family, though the suffering together might have played a big part in that. Nijisanji has too much weird shit between their male and female livers to be called a “family” (Vox and Reimu stuff for example)

>>25923841
I mean, it doesn't help that the girls treat Stars like they don't exist, so for all purposes they really are two entirely separate companies. Even the Hololive reddit janny had to make a pinned post saying Stars are part of Hololive and to stop reporting Holostars posts on the subreddit.
The way Cover has mismanaged Holostars is downright cruel.

>>25923841
/vt/ has this weird thing where they think Stars and Hologirls have the same audience when in reality they have nothing in common and the boys are better off doing their own thing, they've got it good already with the amount of merch they sell and their fanbase is pretty normal, small but profitable fanbase

>>25923920
and how much is the pandering compared to their normal streams? why do you think they're able to keep males watching them while still regularly feeding their shippers? two guys speaking in vc is enough, women will ship anything from professional athletes to historical figures.
calling me an EOP isn't the gotcha you think it is. if it was truly all fujos and pandering their couple channel would match their personal subscriber count but it doesn't. why is that?

>>25916742
None il get a real job

>>25921789
Because they really think the girl is their gf. So when any men play with them their surrogate online husband instincts kick and the schizophrenia takes over.

>>25924080
Based actual contributor to society anon

>>25923748
i hope you and your five viewers will have lots of fun

>>25916742
Niji because I will be treated like I actually exist. Also I can force myself into collabs with GFE members and make you fags seethe.

NijiEN probably, I can't really think of anything that I'd be able to do in Holostars that I can't do in NijiEN with a larger potential audience. Chances are I can even collab with Holostars EN when they debut so I can still be bros with them and any cool EN male indies out there. What's there to lose?

>>25916913
>STUPID
>SUPER GAY
I felt that.

>>25924245
>What's there to lose?
Forced to act like a faggot

>>25924025
Pretty much everyone knows Cover fucked up horribly with Stars in their first year and pretty much left them to die because Cover didn't know shit about handling male talents.
I'll never stop being impressed with how the boys managed to stay for so long and get this much success despite the entire industry turning on them on day one. It's like watching a shounen anime.

>>25916742
luxiem is swimming on SC right now compared to any holo

>>25916799
To be a Homostar, you need to sing and dance like a faggot.

>>25924325
By who? Doesn't Shu avoid pandering? I don't think they have to do it, it just brings more money if you choose that.

>>25924408
>you need to actually be talented at singing and dancing to be in Holostars
No wonder /vt/ hates these boys, they actually have skills that need training and effort.

>Can't sing and my voice is on the lower end so even if I did learn, I'd have to transpose a shit ton of songs down to my range and they'd sound weird
Sounds like Homostars is not the path for me

>>25923647
If StarsEn ever becomes a thing i want at least one of the boys to be a drummer so Izuru can have that band he always dreamed of making.

>>25924597
>Can drum
>Can't sing or dance
W-would that be enough for an idol company?

>>25924445
Nobody on this board actually watches NijiEN except the people in /NijiEN/. They just built up this strawman that all of Luxiem/Noctyx are simultaneously 100% homosexual and 100% fucking the girls every single stream.

Nevermind the fact Luca is openly heterosexual and often talks about his tastes in women and tries to do "wholesome" BFE content like valentines dates, Ike is a fucking lolicon that faps to kino cunnyfag shit like Saya no Uta, and Shu is just a normal dude that barely even acknowledges his female fans outside of voicepacks.

>>25924717
>Nobody on this board actually watches NijiEN except the people in /NijiEN/.
This applies to every group though. Most of the non-generals are just bait by drama tourists.

>>25924696
Robert, Ogre and Atlantis can't sing for shit when they joined Holostars

>>25924717
False. According to the vtuber experts of /vt/, obviously 90% of the stream time of NijiEN males is spent verbally groping each other on voice chat or talking about their favorite BL manga.

>>25923748
If StarsEN isn’t able to filter people who are just there to fuck their oshi’s in the first place, the branch is dead to me

>>25924717
You forgot to mention that shu is a simp.

>>25916742
If you actually want to make money, nijisanji. If you want to have fun streaming without dealing with insufferable retards, holostars, albeit they will expect you to know how to sing.

>>25924988
Never gonna happen. Partially because schizos will view any sort of interaction between StarsEN and the main branch as trying to fuck the girls

>>25916742
StarsEN, get enough traction and interaction with ID(known for collabing with Homos) as to get mentioned in EN, build a niche fanbase around FPS and RTS, get to collab with Fauna, sex her. It's all planned already, just wait for me, 2023.

>>25924988
the odds that someone who just wants to fuck his oshi is also interesting or talented enough for cover to keep are small. what you really should be worried about is normal streamers who want easy clout and don't actually care about holostars or vtubers.

>>25925078
This but 2022. Sorry bud, you were just too slow

>>25925078
you'll have to get in before me, and that ain't happening bucko

>>25924696
You just need to be musically good at something since Winning son, Pizza dad and Oga couldn't sing when they got in.

>>25916742
I wouldn't choose either. I don't want to be a vtuber. if I had to choose, or else someone would kill me or something like that, I would pick Holostars.

>>25925160
Finally, my marimba skills can be used for something

Nijisanji. The fans don't actively hate men for simply existing, have Konami perms, and management is at least somewhat proactive with permissions. I also wouldn't need to jump through too many hoops if I wanted to collaborate with someone outside of the company.

Holostar will be a an western thing and like all western shit it will pander to LGBT and blm.

>>25916742
Hololive so i don't have to even try

>>25924025
>Even the Hololive reddit janny had to make a pinned post saying Stars are part of Hololive and to stop reporting Holostars posts on the subreddit.
uhh what?

>>25925077
Or you can be like Oga and not give a fuck

>>25925018
He is never, ever, EVER getting Elira. Poor man should ask her already so he can get shot down and move on with his life.

>>25923626
>problem with stars is fujos don't like them because Cover's culture is too sanitized to allow them
>Miyabi's cursed streams where he draws his eldritch mascots and creeps out his audience
>Temma being a schizo by cheerfully hunting people down in pvp games
>Oga talking about why he likes NTR
>Astel talking about how he's into furry porn

I don't think Stars is as sanitized as people keep claiming they are.

>>25925465
>as people keep claiming they are.
That's because those "people" don't watch them, anon.

>>25925078
>get to collab with Fauna, sex her
Fuck off. Have some respect for Ed boy.

>>25916742
Holostars because I knew someone who said poggers or something very similar IRL ten years ago and I wanted to slap him whenever I was around him, I couldn't imagine having coworkers that do that but outside of slapping distance

>>25925341
>pander to LGBT and blm
That is exactly what you said about Hololive EN and nothing ha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubrV6yBw9qo
oh

>>25923467
Good luck convincing yagoo setting up whole new chain of command for bunch of 3views males. If you under shinove then you're bit lucky, if you under omegatranny then i suggest you to pack your belongings

>>25925561
i forgot /vt/ doesn't actually watch holostars and doesn't know shit about them or their fanbase

>>25925687
I thought Omegashit was fired?
It was such a massive waste of resources and that nice character design for a vtweeter that didn't do shit.

>>25923558
umm. Hanakana and kensho ono

>>25923748
And I'll be right there with you on that, bro. All these chumps saying nijisanji just so they can never meet and fuck the niji girls are delusional.

>>25925061
sometimes you guys forgot basic shit
You will have genmates and for the entire first month they are the only ones you will be able to collab with
and Genmates are like family
>You don't get to choose

Guaranted tiktok zoomer that plays fortnite and got in because he had 1million followers there

>>25923990
She will be an irrelevant old hag at that point.

>>25925700

Imagine if they find out that most Holostars fans are adults over 20 in college or with steady jobs. Weren't they doing at one time something about introductory cards for each other? Most of them were over 20, I think you can even count on your hand how many are under that.

Also, some are even in relationships. At that Fan Meeting event last month, there was a couple where the husband and wife were both fans of Miyabi

>>25923983
Wait. He bangs FBK and not being banged by FBI?

>>25926007
Fubuki is a hag

>>25925687
Except I don’t have to convince anyone, they literally posted on Twitter that they’re taking applications for a Holostar EN director, someone post that one screenshot

>>25925566
That fucker doesn't exist

>>25925997
From what I've seen most of the Stars fanbase is actually working adults and normal people. Office ladies, couples and some college students with occasional highschool students.
Stars has a pretty normal and calm fanbase because their majority not online and will support the boys because they enjoy their content.

Holo's cuz I don't want them to abandon me if I flop

>>25926143

That, and they really try to avoid the boys' egosa. You will hardly find their fans by typing "Holostars" in the twitter search bar

>>25924325
lmao, quick rundown
out of 9 males
>No faggotery - Luca, Ike, Shu
>Fag baiters - Mysta, Vox, Sonny, Alban
>Actual faggots - Fulgur, Uki

There's no forcing anon, they are just whores and pride don't bring extra cash

>>25923748
>join holostars
>get popular
>see joey of TT fame on my replies because thats what leeches do
>send Nene pics without context
God let me join stars EN now

>>25923990
DESUWA PUSSY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>25926238
Pretty much. Stars really is an enigma as a vchuuba group with almost zero schizos in their fanbase and the majority of their fans are adults with jobs that don't live online.

>>25926143

This explains why they sell more merch compared to supas. Most of their fans aren't on the streams, they check the archives later

Fucking Hell, that also explains why their events are always full. It's easier to get a day off or plan better to attend a bigger event than to drop everything to watch a stream which you could check the archive any time later

>>25926375
Dude, Stars merch sells out in like under 10 minutes. Their fans don't have time to watch their streams live most of the time unless it's a big event which is why they get so many supas during their birthday or costumes and why their merch just evaporates ones it's restocked.

>>25916742
Niji means you have more freedom but also be bullied by your coworkers if you don't manage to be successful
Holostars means you have antis everywhere and will be ignores by everyone but you gen mates and ollie
I would pick niji and if I dont get success just quit

>>25926375
>>25926480
i think i remember someone mentioned in the /stars/ thread the Uproar boys had to restock their merch because they got sold out after a day and after the restock almost everything was gone in 15 mins

>>25916742
Holostars. You can NOT be a legend BFE streamer in nijisanji because both genders 99% collab/talk with each other.

>>25926595

Damn... Does anyone know how much a stars merch costs?

>>25916742
Holostars and just be sololive
Even if I cannot collab with my oshi I can still chat and game with her off stream

>>25926743
>be sololive
>Not searching for small corpo that willing to be starsEN own animare

this thread is so pathetic to read. thank god every one of you who applied got filtered. fucking disgusting pigs.

>>25926601
Based

>>25926897
Here, have a (You)

>>25926691
Kinda impossible to tell but from what I heard Izuru has one of the highest in merch sales.

>>25925610
I remember now, it wasn't poggers, it was kappa.

>>25928732

>>25926300
Holy based. I change my opinion to Holostars now

>>25917911
Anon it's physically impossible, her holes are just too wide

>>25923920
Chronoir doesn't pander nearly as much as Nijien guys do. Luxiem is on another level that can't even be compared to.

>>25923748
This but the opposite
>let Mori/Ollie take my collab virginity
>proceed to reference every yab they had
>"Mori, between 5 percent and lean how much do you care about hololive? "
>"Ollie I need to know the truth, what actually happened during that plasmaphobia stream"
I will drop the ball so hard they never collab with us ever again. All for the idol dream. I will get myself fired if that's what is needed.

>>25924696
Go anon izuru is actually waiting for someone who can do drums for his holostar band dream

>>25916977
Pretty much, the nijisanji members that stay isolated from the rest are bottom of the barrel in terms of Nijisanji's fanbase. It's not "forced" but you're pretty much obligated to if you want to actually be successful.

>>25916742
I'd choose both and my life would become a sitcom as I try to keep my three identities separate and secret.

>>25916742
Niji would be the smart choice cause less autism and a proven track record, but something about being the first and testing water in Stars EN would be exciting, even if it amounts to nothing in the end. Also I would be a stubborn faggot like Oga and not pussy foot around the girls. I wouldn't be a huge faggot harassing JP girls or going around being Ollie and making lewd jokes at them, but I'm not a "muh idol culture fag". I'd respect other's who choose to follow it in the company and interact with them, but I'm a baka gaijin, that shit ain't for me. I like the "funneh minecraft person" streamer kind of experience, not the GFE shit.

Also stars because I'd refuse to go gay for pay and probably slip and call everyone gay as hell in nijien. Also no chinks.

>>25936085 (me)
forgot the caption but i'd join niji to fuck picrel

>>25934705
But anons does not want fame and to just stream alone with his genmates.

>>25925971
That's even better..

Everry Holostars EN thread reaches bump limit. What is the meaning of this?

>>25937021
It means that when they debut this board is gonna be on fire. Everyone is either gonna be surprised how well they did or laugh at how badly they flopped and throw shit left and right. No doubt it will be one of the biggest niji vs holo tribe wars in recent history and the number of casualties will be unfathomable. After that both tribes will lick their wounds and wait for EN3 debut shit storm to start.

>>25916742
Holostars all the way, I don't wanna have to interact with shit female talent like Mori and Gura.

Stars, that's 50/50 between a fujo magnet and cool avatar, all Niji male avatars are an abomination that would make me want to kill myself if I had to stream with them for more than one gimmick stream, on top of that I genuinely don't like most of the Niji members and Holo already got rid of China so I would only reinforce that I'm a persona non grata to China

>>25925392
It wasn't a dedicated pin, but it was mentiones on a post about an update to the rules.

>>25916742
The one where there was the ghost of a chance I could be with my oshi for collabs

>>25916742
Holostars
Less pressure to be fujobait.

I would join Holostars if they were given something like Hololive Alternative.

>>25922965
I see. A dedicated rapist.

>>25916799
Based and seconded.

>>25923188
>you won’t have to act like a faggot or pander to chinks
Shut up. You don't have prove they are acting.

>>25925650
I never said such about holoen but i did said it about holostarEn you know damn well cover ain't go miss the opportunity to pander to a market where theres money to be made. Flaming fags love their male oshi too.

>>25923467
>Stars management is fundamentally different than Hololive management, and StarsEN will probably continue that trend.
HoloJP&EN have different styles (schedule, work ethic, streaming styles, etc) and different management.StarsEN are oversea boys, so they probably has their own management which uses a different set of judgement.

>>25923603
Comparing with NijiEN's frequent harem parties, I would say Stars/Uproar is full gay or 95% gay. (with the exception of alien and son, of course)

>>25916742
I feel from a content creation perspective Niji would be a better choice, but the way the branch has developed past the 2nd gen Obsydia really has killed the bit of delusional incentive to ever try for them, especially regarding the setup of the male side. From a business perspective I would feel more comfortable with Stars EN, but they probably would get their shit more regulated and dealing with their "both part of the same company, but actually independant in their own rights with noticeable barriers" shit sounds annoying at least, if not tiring.


Niji EN:
>More freedom in content creation
>More freedom in chosing collab partners
>More(?) permissions for games
>Personally not too fond of the culture they have developed within the branch, tons of collabs, not too fond of their humor for the most part
>The amount of people the branch has now is also somewhat intimidating for an introvert like me, mostly because cross gen interactions are much more encouraged, unironically enforcing a stronger "we are family" vibe than any holo branch ever had
>Feels like once you're out in the wild streaming, you are more likely to be on your own, less support from the company
>Absolutely not fond of how they have been developing the male side of NijiEN with the amount of blatant pandering, also not fond of their male designs

Stars EN:
>Much more restrictive with content
>Not as much freedom with collab partners
>Although it's possibly not a prevalent within an EN branch, there's still this lingering awkwardness around Hololive, you can't treat them like any other normal chuuba colleagues, but still have to honor them and hold them in high regards publicly
>Overall have a better feeling about cover how they organize things than with Anycolor (yeah, I know starts were treated like shit)
>Likely to receive more support from the organization


Yeah nah. I'd rather stay a 2view and just do my thing than dealing with this.

>>25916742
Holostars because I'd be left alone with my genmates and wouldn't have to deal with fucking dumbasses like fish, roasties like nina, and bitches like Enna.

>>25923650
> I have 0 aspirations to be an idol, so I'd go with NijiEN.
Why do people always bring up the IDOL topic when it comes to Stars?
Name something Niji"JP" males would do but Astel/Roberu wouldn't.

>>25944305
But on the other hand...there's Ollie. Ok, this is hard.

>>25927677
He does, which is actually proof of their popularity with merch. Izuru's views are around the middle, sometimes bottom middle, but he along with Astel are at the top of merch sales, both selling more than Roberu.

>>25937021
People who don't watch Holostars love to talk about Holostars.

>>25916742
NijiEN, I want those free bucks and endless fun, of course. Roberu is a bro though, I'd try to make friends with him either in public collab or behind curtains.

>>25924080
Sana have a real job, so you should become a male Sana.

>>25916807
>getting to be buddies with Selen, friends with Rosemi and cozy with Pomu, flirty with Elira and more
>also be bros/banter with the guys
The dream.

>>25917417
>knowing Lamy won't even bother looking at you
>while Raymoo or Petra or Mika would jump your dick pretty much ASAP
Brother, stop being gay! Please! It's not too late, yet! Aaaaaaa

>>25917719
Based and chadpilled.

>>25944252
>Much more restrictive with content
only if you want to play chinese games, stars got permission if you asked enough just like Uyu got atlus permission and Robert with konami baseball games
>Not as much freedom with collab partners
the only off limits are hololive and nijiEN

Then again getting the thirsty ass Nozomatsuri on my dick does sound damn fine...

What do anons?

>>25924187
Surprise call in mother fuckers!

Turning Nijigirls into cocksleeves and accessories is the best thing. I will exploit those anti-idolfags' idiocy rumao

>>25925341
>Holostar will be a an western thing and like all western shit it will pander to LGBT and blm.
How can Stars be more western than NijiEN when the later are practically Twitch streamers with anime avatar?

>>25916742
Holo. Simply because by and large, Hololive's audience is made up of guys, while Nijisanji's is made up of girls.
As such, being in the first gen, I will try to establish a culture of appealing to males.
I might be a 3view forever, but I much prefer Hololive's format and dedication to chuuba/roommate separation.
Instead of being a Niji, I'd rather just be a fleshstreamer.

>>25937021
Council is disappointing, their schedule is fucking shit, no motivation to be seen. ENbronies desperately need something good EN talents, even if they are dudes.

>>25944449
>People who don't watch Holostars love to talk about Holostars.
Tell me about sports you don't watch. Even better, tell me about sports you've never heard before.

>>25924408
you get to collab with HoloID tho,

>>25916742

I would say Niji... But I'm afraid they'll treat me like they treated NijiKR and NijiIN if I don't bring Luxiem level results. Niji have already proven that they are more than capable of throwing the talents in second plain if they don't do good enough... Despite the shit treatment and restrictions, Cover never threw Holostars away.

>>25944789
What you've said is correct, but how do you explain the popularity discrepancy between NijiJP males and Stars?

>>25924408
>To be a Homostar, you need to have talent.
FTFY

>>25946354
HoloID are just a few chicks, rare collabs, have to respectful too. If I'm Niji I call in whenever I want, flirt with the girls, off collab with them, sometimes on the bed.

>>25946405
Niji is cutthroat business, Holo is silly business.

>>25923983
>Ogey
>Ogey
>Ogey
>That one is true

>>25947084
You got it correct but... Two ID lusting for Oga dick? One is Ollie, who's the other? I don't recall anyone like that.

>>25946405
at the current state of affairs
being a nijiEN male is the equivalent of being a HoloEN girl
Meaning
>You can be mediocre you will still get good numbers
they literally put a woman in a male avatar
that
>sucks terrible at games, settled doing music related streams
>ESL as fuck
>Crybaby
>Self-suspended for 1-week without consulting management on her first month

her lowest recent stream is over 2k ccv playing kuso chillas game

Niji. How is this even a question? If you go to be in holostars, fubuki cuts your dick off on the way in.

>>25946785
Sucking dick isn't a talent

>>25926743
Anon the stars who do that are ones who have been friends with the girls pre-holl

>>25916742
Hololive because I'm a girl and too shy to put up with the frat atmosphere of Nijisanji. Only loss of views and overshadowing by Luxiem awaits Niji EN girls.

Niji
regardless of management, the streamers there and their own elira-established / non-company discord seem to regulate each other fairly well.
hell, fulgur hinted that at one point he was gonna graduate because of the discord leak, but his colleagues managed to convince him otherwise - that sounds like a great support system where you can vent and receive emotional support

>>25946405
You'd have to go on a constant hiatus to reach KR and IN levels, some ENs get three digit views and they're fine.

>>25948837
I think it technically is.

>>25916742
>Has to pay of the nijisanjiCN fees, outfit, collab, ori songs, etc
Vs
>Gets a paycheck.
Yeah I'll go with homostars thank you.

>>25949482
You do know Hololive girls also have to pay out of pocket for outfits and song productions not within promised quotas right?

>>25947178
...its treerrat and lofi

>>25947084
>Ogey
You never played orange juice?
>Ogey
There's literally English clip when he admitted it
>Ogey
Fubuki is close enough that she personally knows Oga's nephew
>>25947178
Lofi and Treerat

>>25947178
Ollie only wishes to be head patted by Miyabi

>>25950699
Understandable, because i also want pats from Miyabi.

>>25950052
better than what the nijis will ever get. stars got their competent manager, guaranteed outfits, 3d, and concerts

>>25950691
>You never played orange juice?
I saw coco and stars roommate took a photo together too. Japanese streamers know each other. It doesn't prove shit unless you can proof there is a special relationship between the two talents.
>There's literally English clip when he admitted it
Show me or nothing burger
>Fubuki is close enough that she personally knows Oga's nephew
Matsuri know about Yagoo's wife too. Does this mean Matsuri fuck his wife?

>>25916742
I join Niji, because they're allowed to have fun and collab with more than just they're own branch once in a blue moon

>>25944789
>the only off limits are hololive and nijiEN
Hololive yeah, they don't want you to leech off them, although I think collabs like the Rikka x Calli or Roberu x Bae one might be possible later if they're happening like once a year or something per talent and the girls are interested in that.

NijiEN is probably a no-no. Kiara x Pomu never happened and the Ollie x Selen collab also got cancelled if I remember correctly. I'm wondering if there's a company wide ban or if it's really just unlucky cases for both Holo branches.

>>25952713
>Miko suddenly appear in random game
>Lead dev suddenly become Holostars
https://youtu.be/4dtOhOY_nEo

>>25952516
Holostars gets so much stuff and people here really think Cover ignores them when they've been getting support for 2 years now.

>>25953417
>2 years now.
One year, the good shit (mainly new merch almost every two weeks) start coming only after last year anniversary

>>25953582
Eh, your right. After Stars found their audience, Cover started to give them good things and now they've got all the stuff the girls get. Even their own anime.

>>25953408
>Miko suddenly appear in random game
>Lead dev suddenly become Holostars
These jp streamers know each other. (the nico nico douga clique is very small). Suisei worked with Kanata in their past lives. By your logic, they are all nepo hire because they know each other by being in a small clique.

>https://youtu.be/4dtOhOY_nEo
lol its nothing burger I knew it but thx for source

>>25952516
You do know Nijis are guaranteed outfits after a certain threshold right? Which EN members reach easily, concerts and 3D are harder since the EN members don't live in Japan sp it would be harder rp organize than if they lived in Japan, you know, like the Stars.
Of course you are gonna ignore all the logic and continue spouting bullshit and rrats like always, so I don't know why I'm even bothering.

>>25954422
Anon, Oga wasn't a streamer and most holo are nepotism hire from those nnd circle
>nothing burger
Well duh being fans of holomember is pretty normal. Watching him geting excited during Luna performance on last holofes was amusing

>>25954734
>Oga wasn't a streamer
Seiyuu only know seiyuu people, they don't know mangaka or game devs or stage performers
These people are from the similar otaku circle. Given that MIko has voice acted in her past, I don't see why Miko has no reason to know a game dev or two.
>Watching him geting excited during Luna performance on last holofes was amusing
lol come back when they have a collab or twitter interaction, or when Luna does give a fuck

>>25955119
>Seiyuu only know seiyuu people
Anon, Oga was also a seiyuu
>lol come back when they have a collab
Now you're moving goalposts, I only ever said that he is openly a Lunaito

>>25955355
>Anon, Oga was also a seiyuu
so....it makes even more sense for Miko to know him via working relations
> Now you're moving goalposts, I only ever said that he is openly a Lunaito
ok, my bad I misunderstood. But Oga praise/simp for every Holo in his fes watchalong. Does that really make him a Lunaito? Isn't it obvious that's shilling for colleagues/company? Does he brings up Luna outside of cards/fes stream? If yes, then he's Lunaito.

>>25952516
Nijis are also guaranteed outfits after certain thresholds exactly the same as Hololive, just how fucking clueless are you?

>>25955830
>Does he brings up Luna outside of cards/fes stream?
Yes, he often mention watching Luna piano stream

>>25955830
Oga was a pro seiyuu (agency and all that jazz) just like Sora unlike Miko who is amateur.

>>25956057
Seriously....???? Can you kindly provide clip/source? (if possible)

I never know Stars that are openly Holo fan/simp
(Fubuki Oga is different story, iirc Luna never care for Stars, yet a Star openly expresses affection for Luna?)