/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Holocope thread?
Holocope thread

>>25902037
Luca...

Sana trended today due to her birthday and song

>>25902083
anon...

>>25901921
It's more like the day-1 VOD growth is down for Gura. Like, for a 20k average stream that runs 3 hours I'd expect it to hit 360k views after processing, but instead it takes an extra 12-24 hours of viewers checking it out to get there. Her Daily VOD growth for past streams seems fine, so something's happened with recommendations or otherwise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8COyHAxTv50
We made it numberbros, we got featured!

This general has been completely buck broken by Salome.

Just in case you missed it

>>25901921
EN isn't just gura.

>>25902114
Stop advertising your channel anon.

>>25902114
this is just sad

>>25901888
honestly, i have no idea
we're entering uncharted territory for brave and vspo
on the positive side, riot music been thriving since brave off-loaded them to new management. vspo management also commented that brave will remain hands-off as far as talent management. so they might benefit from having access to larger capital and opportunities for large collab project with the rest of brave properties without much change to current practice.
however, seeing how vspo management responded to this drama, you can't rule out that they now work under a different pressure.

>>25902114
lose some wieght

>>25902175
>/vt/ can attract more view than his content

>>25902104
I feel like it's the opposite, Gura's VOD processing is faster than ever, then it will just freeze for like 12+ hours, then back to slowly farming VOD views.
Need that VOD anon to do some explanation.

>>25902104
Can verify this. Here’s the infamous project wingman stream that hit 300k views in a matter of hours despite averaging 12k. I have no idea still as to why processing has ended up with cleaved VODs and at this point it’s really only speculation. And I’ve manually tracked 24 hour growths for Gura’s VODs and they all fit in line with what you’d expect: Tons of people pouring in and watching it day to day. The daily growth is still intact, it’s the processed views that became fucked it seems

Predictions?
https://youtu.be/oP5AngqV3Ws

>>25902114
I linked this guy a couple of times here and every single faggot thought it was me

>>25902253
>>25902259
Vod cope? Vod cope.

new outfit waiting room
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpF8BTgAg7U

>>25902266
30k

>>25902321
Go lose some weight nigger

>>25897631
do people still believe this meme?

I watched those streams and unless there were 8 levels of irony, or the subject really is that silly, it looked like she was taking the piss out of astrology.
Just nice satirical fun.

>>25902266
40k'ish, but I think most chumbuds will be asleep by then, but shion still pulls good numbers regularly

>>25902266
This stream will be cunny (cute + funny)

>>25902253
You’re partially right. Gura’s VODs have been processed faster than other streams we’ve seen, though I wouldn’t necessarily say they’re being “frozen.” For the WWE stream for instance, after the processing was through she was gaining about 4-6k views an hour. So it’s not like it wasn’t growing, it DID grow, but this is where people might get bothered because it feels like the growth isn’t there like you’d expect and I don’t blame people for feeling that way.
Again, it’s not that their growths are necessarily bad. And it’s not that the VODs themselves (for Gura) are bad, she’s still the top of the top as far as standard VODs go, it’s just weird when you have a certain expectation of what to see out of a VOD based on likes (traction), CCV, chat speed and just overall hype level, get completely thrown out the window when it verifies and it sits at a casual 100-125k per hour of stream time. Prior to whatever “this” is, that’d be an easy 175k at the very least

>>25902266
20k at best

>>25902266
chumbuds wont be awake so 20k, but still enough for cripple gold

>>25902266
Single pov, 22-25k.
There's Watame (MC) and Lui Totsu overlap that are relevant (Botan talk stream will pretty much have minimal effect) and Noel drinking stream probably not having a ton of overlap with cunny sports.

>>25902266
Oh wait it's on gura's channel?
25k or whatever gura usually gets

>>25902189
What was the exact reason for the suspension again?

>>25902566
contract breach

>>25902492
Well Vox and Mysta are up to something.

Tomeru is doing another weird costumed irl stream
https://youtu.be/C--Y1Bm44Tw
This time she's playing music in some forest to 4.5k people.

>>25902591
Is 4k good numbers for her?

>>25902581
Shoto will have a higher peak than Mysta
And then lose Twitch gold to another SP raid.

Today's my prediction

>>25902566
Noah showed a screenshot of her discord conversation on twitter which was apparently a no-no for vspo talents

>>25902676
Colossal.
She's usually around 1k depending on what she plays.
The last 2-3 dinosaur costume streams had ~2.5k

>>25902699
Watch hours are a better metric and easier to get on Twitch, there's no reason not to use them for this

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>71,690: Salome (Nijisanji)
>38,998: Suisei (Hololive)
>38,651: Marine (Hololive)
>31,481: Subaru (Hololive)
>30,986: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,426: Koyori (Hololive)
>24,298: Gura (Hololive)
>17,828: Uki (Nijisanji)
>17,146: Ars (Nijisanji)
>15,041: Patra (774 Inc.)
>15,040: Calli (Hololive)
>13,407: Lui (Hololive)
>12,771: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,537: Botan (Hololive)
>12,450: Kronii (Hololive)
>12,344: Ina (Hololive)
>12,039: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,922: Roboco (Hololive)
>11,445: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,098: Sango (Nijisanji)
>11,067: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,931: Fulgur (Nijisanji)
>10,837: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,662: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,621: Kanae (Nijisanji)

>>25902575
>>25902575
So she was punished on legal grounds and not personal grounds? I don't think that there is such a big problem here. They probably saw how Cover handled the Rushia yab and went for a similar approach to discourage others from devolving into dramafags and collapsing the team structure.

Did they actually do anything about the whole playing video games in her work account or not?

>>25902726
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349 - 3D debut
10) Salome (Nijisanji) - 71,690 - English study

>PER COMPANY
6x: Nijisanji
4x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
6x: Salome
1x: Haachama, Iroha, Mio, Watame

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
107x: Hololive
45x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha
10x: Salome
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>25902726
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Aki (Hololive) - 72,251 - 4th anniversary 3D live
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsu
3) Fubuki (Hololive) - 48,485 - 4th anniversary outfit update
4) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 56,607 - APEX
5) Miko (Hololive) - 98,858 - WWE 2K22
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million sub karaoke
8) Miko (Hololive) - 71,446 - WWE 2K22
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349 - 3D debut
10) Suisei (Hololive) - 38,998 - Return stream Yakiniku Simulator

>PER COMPANY
9x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Miko
1x: Aki, Haachama, Fubuki, Kuzuha, Mio, Suisei Watame, Iroha

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
111x: Hololive
40x: Nijisanji
7x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
15x: Miko
12x: Kuzuha
7x: Subaru, Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine, Suisei
4x: Salome, Toya, Mio
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Aki, Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

One day I want to see two male vtubers beef and have their female fans flame each other. Would be kino. The vtuber scene has been lacking some drama for a while now. Its always fucking company drama and never personal beef.

>>25902733
the problem is that by publicly suspending her all it does is paint a big target on her back and signal to all the shitposters on twitter that "Hey, if you harrass our talents enough some shit might actually happen", on top of which suspensions are not really legal punishments. It's literally a fig leaf thrown out to placate antis

>>25902114
I'm going to be honest, I'm not particularly invested in holo vs niji bullshit, whatever I just come here because this general has best access to the detailed stats on Vtubers. I watch Selen and Elira and Pomu and I couldn't give a fuck about JPs.

I shut the fuck up about botting a while ago because there's no irrefutable proof, but I will never not believe she was botted, until I see a fucking poll in her chat with 100% engagement.

https://youtu.be/fRsjv-JKyf8
LORE IN 30min!

>>25902800
>not watching the whore NijiENs
Good for you.

>>25902733
>They probably saw how Cover handled the Rushia yab
Nah, vspo management has been strict from the very start. Remember that they also suspended Sumire for playing on a smurf account last year even though Beni was the only member directly involved in the CR Valorant boosting scandal
>Did they actually do anything about the whole playing video games in her work account or not?
I thought that was just a rumor?

>>25902807
6,072 waiting

>>25902807
70k max

>>25902581
kobo has an horror game today too, so what do you expected for our usually kobo vs vox?

>>25902829
What are the chances it shows new faces in the PV and then announces EN 3, debut them straight away?

>>25902800
there's unironically more evidence about the existence of aliens than Salome being botted

>>25902752
Never gonna happen, it benefit no one except Korekore

>>25902744
>>25902750
>>25902726
I don't care what your issue is with salome or whatever, but can you switch over to average CCV and or Watch Time? It avoids inevitable problems caused by the Z bug and raids messing with the peak CCV

>>25902846
0%

>>25902780
All they have to do is not respond to anything other than the legal contract breach. They can come up with some bullshit excuse like
>Talents are expected to continue maintaining their skills even if they don't stream. If they do it on their main or not is irrelevant.
What can anyone do after that?
>>25902816
>I thought that was just a rumor?
Ah, I see. I read it on the previous thread and didn't check because I was busy at the time.

>>25902846
None, because HoloX is still the main tourist attraction. You don't split hype like that, keep people focused on one main event at a time, that's how you maintain a hype cycle

>>25902752
I always pictured Mori doing a diss track but nobody has gone after her and nobody probably ever will because she's that far ahead of every single English vtuber in terms of success.

>>25902857
yeah that's what you want us to believe isn't it?

>>25902581
what the fuck is mysta's new profile pic

>>25902846
Irys fags would find a reason to complain if that happened

>>25902870
no because it makes for less exciting horse races

>>25902909
>nobody has gone after her and nobody probably ever
>he missed the whole mori diss arc /here/

>>25902870
post your own tally instead then, there's no website that track average CCV

>>25902952
Yes there is, Vstats

>>25902752
Has there been nothing like that in the EN indie scene yet?

>>25902952
I did it last thread >>25894506

>>25902937
That doesn't count, it was a literal who. If you're not a 4view your opinion doesn't matter.

>>25902982
>Nux Vs Vshojo

>>25902719
Watch hours is a meme.
Especially when you can sleep through 320 stream hours and still get over 1 mil watch hours in a month.

Especially in the vtuber community,, twitch is switching to prioritize stream events at prime time, while reaction zatsus pads numbers for the other hours.

>>25902965
but there's no list, you'll have to click each stream to find out

>>25902870
Watch time and average ccv is useless in daily basis.
We already have people tracking watch time and average ccv for end of the month.

https://youtu.be/fvkUYF7vAskgot another 2 view recommend
A well spoken gentleman with 136 views on his re-debut...105 subsribers

>>25902877
>>25902892
>>25902921
I'll eat a raw egg if Cover doesn't announce EN 3 today

>>25903008
>>25903001
>Watch time and average ccv is useless in daily basis
Perhaps, but Peak CCV is worthless on every basis. Average CCV is more accurate to the number of viewers actually watching a stream, instead of measuring how big of a raid you can get before losing it all within 10 minutes

>>25903083
>but Peak CCV
Mad

>>25902857
Well obviously, aliens are proven to be real

>>25903068
Enjoy puking that raw egg up

>>25903083
Spell it with me
>H
>O
>L
>O
>C
>O
>E
>P

>>25903101
Dude, I already did the numbers, Salome is still on top of Watch Hours, I don't care. The point is that Watch Hours and Average CCV are just objectively better metrics than Peak CCV

>only 10k waiting for holo alt
ngmi

>>25902857
Well, duh. The US government already released its UFO videos and they coined the shittier term Unidentified Aerial Phenomena just because they're still in denial that they came from outer space.

>>25903083
Just put a star on Z or raid, it's that simple.
Channel owners can receive their peak ccv data from youtube, deal with it.

>>25903149
it's probably going to end up in disappointment anyway, not even globalfags are excited, no new faces or anything like that

>they didn't know
THEY DIDN'T KNOW

>>25903083
If we do average CCV then livers that do longer streams and supachat readings will suffer.

>>25903206
Who cares?

>>25903186
>globalfags
They still watch vtuber?!

If you ever feel retarded just remember there are actual retards in this thread that think they're gonna fucking reveal EN3 in the HoloALT premiere.

>>25903206
Superchat reading streams never have high CCV anyway

>>25903216
They're both garbage and peak is the lesser of the two evils.

>>25903234
Gonna grudgepost you in 10 minutes

last recorded waiting room is 21k

>>25903234
holy kek

tangentially related because we've been using him as the FPS peak for a bit
https://www.twitch.tv/darumaisgod
Daruma has a Twitch channel and he's getting 41k with Rust there too.

Is Rust that big of a buff?
Or are FPS YT and Twitch numbers surprisingly comparable?

holy shit that was so cool

>>25902917
its so retaredd. like it makes it harder to identify who the fuck it is

Who was the front/end character of the teaser?

new girl? STAR?

This is cover's problem initially.

They put out a great PV, then there's no follow up announcements.

>>25903344
Twitch and FPS have been compatible for JP for a long time, thanks to the likes of FPS Shaka et Al who stream a fuckton on Twitch.

>>25903468
Me

>>25903468
the new player character(i'm assuming) that is watching all of these scenes

WHO?

>>25903482
>>25903468
EN Salome (One EN debutee, Mithra)

>>25903482
>>25903555
EN3

Witch...

>Towa is the ONLY holoJP member streaming until the holoearth thing on the main channel in AN HOUR AND A HALF ON THE WEEKEND
Hololive is dead.

>>25903482
Kurisu 2022

>>25903468
Literally (You)

>this trailer will get less views than the first simply because gen 5 were given so much screentime in it
Not even EN and ID can save it now, Cover continues to be incompetent.

「story time」
歌:Star Flower(星街すいせい、AZKi、Moona Hoshinova、IRyS)

Thoughts on this grouping?

>>25903508
I meant in tearsms of viewership numbers.

Because we know other streamers vary wildly, depending on their fanbase and time.
NijiEN getting less than 1/2 on Twitch, kson and Pikamee getting double their YT numbers for instance.

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?

>>25903482
https://twitter.com/you_kururu

>>25903670
Blue->Purple->Pink diva shower?

Matching color scheme, the way Sui-chan likes it.

>>25903742
>>25903741

>>25903555
>>25903482
>>25903742
AIEEEEEEE SHE IS BACK!!!>>25903625

>>25903609
most of them are attending the V-Carnival event dumbass

>>25903807
It's "YOU" lol

While i was there, more Twitch numbers.
Viichan was watching Isedol's own songs of the week top.
No 1, displayed at 1 million 170k views this week.
No 2 had ~330k

>>25903807
>Joined DECEMBER 2019

>story time
>Vocals: Star Flower (Hoshimachi Suisei, AZKi, Moona Hoshinova, IRys)

>>25903742
>>25903807
>>25903741
>Joined December 2019
Nah, no way Yagoo thought that far.

>>25903633
What did i say?
>>25903807
>>25903741
Self insert character for y'all.

>>25903697
Pikamee gets about the same as her youtube channel and only gets double if she's watching react content. Selen is really the only one who actually promoted her twitch channel and gets similar numbers to when she streams on twitch. No idea what's going on with the males but I assume their plans for twitch are lazy and half-baked like the rest of their content

>>25903914
Yagoo, a-chan, nodoka followed her/him though.

Fuck cover, give us an announcement already

>>25902114
Reminder that this violates every featured anon's copyright over their post and post contents.

Huh, Cover use Gura as thumbnail

Instant twitter trending.

Twitter trend

haawata isn't dead...I can go to sleep with a smile on my face...

>>25904145
>beatbox
>2022
what ?

>>25903807
>枢(Kururu) means "pivot."
>木(Ki) means tree, but is read as ユウ(you), together is normally read suzunoki?
What does it mean

>>25904145
>>25904134
Cover is a fucking master of the algorithm confirmed

Honestly, I wouldn't know how Anycolor would use their IPO money for a multimedia with that many livers. Could they do an anime/manga when everyone has different lore/story/personalities? Could they do a gacha game but basing on popularity as their rarity would make some fans mad. This is the drawback of filling every niche/trope that a viewer might watch. How would they even fit an ojou character into a story with a vampire, demon, clown, cyborg and school girl?

>>25904145
How the fuck do you change your trending location to worldwide

>>25904145
People really want anime of their vtubers

>>25904134
>only use Gura when they need her popularity to get an algorithm boost
>literally ignore and sideline her and the rest of EN for everything else
How is this acceptable?

>>25903742
Is that KAF?

>>25904342
Forget that, who will they avoid the inevitable embezzlement scandal waiting in their future?

Did anyone catch the premiere peak number/waiting room (other than above)?

>>25903957
>Pikamee gets about the same as her youtube channel
yeah, no.
YT Peaks median May
>1,310
Twitch regular average, May
>2,714
Twitch peaks median, May
>3,246
Even for regular gaming streams, she ~doubles her YT peaks with just the Twitch average.

For the Nijis, the guys streamed way more than Selen for periods of time.
Mysta streamed 10 times in April to a 5.5k Median, for a bit he was streaming there more than on YT for 2 weeks, but guess he gave up. Came back only a couple of times for special situations.
In June it's Knocx's turn, 4 streams to just a 1,648 median so far.

the guys do seem to give up when numbers stagnate... at least Mysta does

>>25904454
Anon...

NO CONTEST

>>25904374
Honestly, I forget how to change that. It was a long time ago when Twitter removes Worldwide trends from the option

>>25904483
I don't know why I fucking missed it but right before the countdown finished I think it was at 25k
it was at 21k before the first drop which happened during the 1 minute countdown...couldn't catch the peak sadly because I was unironically excited watching this

>>25904342
> basing on popularity as their rarity would make some fans mad

They'd just have normal/rare/SSR versions of every character, should be easy enough

>>25904411
Baffling post

>>25904523
USA still asleep?

>>25904523
>Steph
Warriors win?

>>25904483
I saw 35k after watching it all in full screen

>>25904582
Unfortunately

>>25904134
Yeah, they'll cycle through thumbnails every day, like last 3 times.

>>25904523
>no US trending
weak

S-Sugoi

>>25904566
Yes, it's fucking 6am right now at earliest FFS, and 3am on the opposite coast.

>>25904599
peaks are caught. waiting room though...

>>25903899
>>25903914
This is the guy that is in charge of all holoAlt related stuff, he created the original concept for the ayafubumio comic and holoearth then after got hired by cover to work on alternative. Guess it's some kind of self insert on his part

>>25904639
>>25904614
makes sense then, trending topics from last night still have way more weight than what 6AM people are tweeting.

>>25904566
its a saturday ss well

>>25904699
That makes quite a good deal of sense then. That or he's just cribbing the character to use as his PFP because of his role in everything.

>>25904248
Her name is 'wooden pivot', she's literally (you)

Rip numbers

>>25904523
>1st 17k
>2nd 100k
nice algo twitter

Will Fubuki make a 2 hour analysis video and get 40k+ picking apart every part of every frame?

>>25904919
anon?

>>25904919
>Shion POV
RIP numbers indeed. More total views, but the CCV....

>>25904919
She's saying there will be an announcement at her collab

>>25904342
>vampire
Mel
>clown
Polka, kind of
>cyborg
RBC I guess
>school girl
Sora
>demon
Towa, Ayame

Hololive has a lot of the same shit Niji has but their box is so strong it somehow works

this one had a better selection of members than the 1st one

>>25904919
alvan bros we won

>>25904993
She's also saying she'll have a POV

>>25904919
Shion-yo....

Is there another stream up after HoloEarth Polka/Botan/FBK preview?

>>25904919
Why would a Gura/Shion collab song have bad numbers?

>>25905010
I mean it literally was "everyone that wasn't in the first trailer and has 3D"

>>25905044
isn't that what she's refering to?

>>25905044
no, they will probably announce it on stream

>>25904994
HoloAlt at least takes places in another world, how would you justify tens of schools boys/girls from nijisanji? Even more so NijiEN. NijiEN has a nice setup for lore building, but we all know they aren't gonna be given front-row seats to an anime production.

NO IRYS???? WTF COVER WHY YOU'RE MAKING HER SUFFER MORE

>>25905109
Mass Isekai. Native Isekai

So why is it that Cover includes HoloEN and HoloID in their official Pv while NijiEN got nothing?

>>25905088
>>25905104
Yeah, that's the thing. I'm not sure if he/she mistyped it as 20:00 referring to the HoloEarthTV preview.

I fucking hope not that they made a streaming platform, but if it's small and only the girls could upload content in it, I can see it being manageable and cost less.

>>25904342
The joke about Salome is that she isn't an ojousama though. She's larping.

V-cunny starting

>>25903482
Star Flower

>>25905184
Hololive summer onegai

>>25905109
Niji just have too many members, at this point they should make something about Salome, King, Mito, Vox and other popular members and call it a day.

>>25905184
okay she mistyped kek

Quick, Riku needs Salome in the main channel to reduce HoloALT hype.

>>25905266
pon...

>>25905181
Realistically it's because ID and HoloEN have been around for way longer and a success for way longer

Looks like Salome released another short video that is already ratcheting up insane views. Looks like once again she will wind up with bigger numbers by eating and drinking konbini products over Marine who actually attempts to tell a short story and/or joke with each of hers.

>>25905194
Link?
Numbers?

hoshikawa will appear in HoloALT btw

>>25905302
fuck off with your shill

>>25905088
>>25905184
>>25905266
pretty sure kururu is a guy

>>25905285
He should make an anime about Salome
Yes only Salome and it will be a huge success

>>25905323
I believe it.
Toko too.

>>25905109
crazy how the schoolgirls are the hardest to fit into a setting like that

>>25905312
>Link?
Usual place
>Numbers?
It's not on a platform where you can see the numbers.

>>25905345
I just default to assuming she's a girl until proven otherwise because that's is not a guy in the pv

>cover spend most of their HoloAlt screen time on duo that have got after only 15k on their glorious collabs
Cover... please... the numbers...

>>25905399
have you thought that maybe he just used her as his pfp because he is involved in the project

>>25905266
>(you)_kururu
he's the gache protagonist

>VODcope is being destroyed
Nature is healing

>>25904582
He hard carried them to a win. Salome type numbers

>>25905398
I kind of wish they published the numbers just for me to laugh between the difference between day 1 and 2. They put like 80% of the good singers in day 2 and shoved a lot of holos on day 1 so people would pay and I want to know how well this idea did.

>>25905422

>>25905398
...
You think anyone saved the channel from months ago?
romanji search only brings up indian fortnight shit.
It's too small for Canadian Youtube to promote it.

>>25905407
Stop being retarded with your ccv, realistically it's neither profit driven (these are the main things a casual recognize about these holos) nor is profit from ccv

It's happening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tftbi551s8Q
>997,506 views

Mel's Vampire at 1 million this weekend.

>>25902340
Astrology is a serious hobby for Sana and there's nothing wrong with that

Yagoo counters Riku with HoloALT, let’s see if it’s going to be another success for Cover.

>Hire FGO artists
>Hire FGO animators
>Settings is a mix of ancient ayyyy lmao technology and fantasy
What's next? Timeline shenanigans like FGO?

>>25905312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YxCjCN4mWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YxCjCN4mWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YxCjCN4mWc

>>25905407
It’s almost as though CCV is not in fact some kind of most important god stat.

>>25905475
Yeah they will never publish it. The closest you can get is that VARK's staff told Miko that miComet's Cinderella Switch is the most successful one.

>>25905581
For content, I could've think of mixed ways to combine art skills and astrology knowledge into streaming content, not the way Sana does it which makes it boring. Sana should've from the get go did a drawing stream, and drew planets, creatures or play spore and stuff. Then, become a marvel/comic fanatic on stream. She'll be 8-9k median in 2-3 months.

>>25905630
Lost Belts Hololive edition

Will shion end up with the higher pov? This is a JP timeslot and she inclined since last time they collabed

>>25905654
They are afraid Anykara will mow them again

>>25905658
She should've invited a different Holo on each month whose birthday is in that month and explained to them their sign. Easy views. I think she feels insecure because of the fedoratards but she really shouldn't, Mio does Tarot and nobody cares.

>>25905475
Anon.. V-carnival is LIVE on national TV

>>25905489
>these are the main things a casual recognize about these holos
>Takamori
>casual recognize
breh.

>>25903664
I've always been curious about why the Gen 5 schizo hates Gen 5 in particular. They seem so innocuous, and there's nothing that would seem to be offensive about Botan, Lamy, Polka or Nenes content. Ayame, Kiara, Aqua, Fubuki, I totally get why they'd all have virulent antis but I don't understand what anyone in Gen 5 could do to create such seething hate.

>>25905685
>Shark 17k
>Shion 12k

En debuff is too strong for jp

Because of Daruma, the JP/Vtuber Rust server is the 4th highest stream on Twitch right now.

also to get these out of the way:
>xqc top vtuber stream
>how do we save Jun?
>vtuber top Korean streamer
>vtuber top CN/Taiwan streamer

>>25905820
They're a janny irl and hate lamy

>>25905825
>Gura 17k
Gura doesn't even get 10k anymore lmao

So much for the anon who said HoloEN and HoloID won’t appear in HoloALT

Please don't reply to the bait that's sprouting hooks.

>EN GOLD?
EN GOLD!

>>25905866
Do people really numberfag without knowing numbers? 10k is basically her floor

>>25905873
These things are planned about 6-9 months before they're released. Cover didn't know at the time EN would recline so badly or that ID would explode in popularity.

Vtuber domination
Also this thread really make me thought the 2hu reclined hard while they are still holding up so well

>>25905955
Thankfully they didn't put Rushia in this trailer.

>>25905981
The vtuber section is probably dominated by Nijisanji as always

>>25905995

>>25906029

>>25905947
It would be funny if Kobo suddenly got 20k

>>25906029

>>25902591
5.5k now watching her trying to chop wood at night in the woods.

This seems like a dangerous stream.
Even through the dinosaur costume, I can pretty much completely describe her body shape with how much she moved.

>>25906029
why do nijiniggers lie?

>>25906029
We already have a thread about this. I do not want to hear it again

>>25906093
This is C99 not C100

>>25906081
>Kobo
>EN
Anon?

>>25906065
they're shrinking

>>25906111
>>25906110
>>25906093
>>25906065
>falling this fast for a falseflagger
what did anon say Just now?
>>25905895

>>25906119
Yes but it shows Niji doesn't dominate "as always".

>>25905981
what's that? sales count?

>>25906146
because nijikeks need to be put in thier place

>>25902744
>>25902750
i'm going to take one for the team and impregnate salome so she has to stop streaming to raise our children

>>25906110
nijicope, watch them say next that nijifes is more popular and important than comiket 100

>>25906065
Jesas what a wipeout. It's even more one sided than C99. I thought Niji was supposed to be popular in Japan?

>>25906191
and other hilarious jokes nijiniggers tell themselves

>>25906154
The quality of retard this thread manages to attract never cease to amaze me.

>>25906175
She makes 10 times more than you ever will anon.

You'll need to take another one for the "team" and be the malewife.

>>25906175
She's not even that aesthetically pleasing of a body. I've came too many times due to Fauna and Mio.

>Hololive
>Only Towa and Kaela are live

what is happening? Are they all in the carnival?
Also, not a single 10k stream at this hour, outside that Twitch girl
https://vrabi.net/live

>>25906081
she's streaming dreadout on saturday night. it's possible

>>25906191
They have their own doujin event like Reitaisai.

>>25906270
>Are they all in the carnival?
yes a similar thing happened during last year's v carnival and really any major vtuber concert, holos don't want to stream over a major event like that if they can help it

>>25904342
>How would they even fit an ojou character into a story with a vampire, demon, clown, cyborg and school girl?
Comedy. Nichijou bit with Nijis

>>25906270
they are all with me

>>25906191
Niji has their own con

>>25906270
>streaming over major event
Also you can always assume that Holos most likely also want to watch the thing.

>>25906154
Lol no
It haven't even started yet and you are asking for sales count. It's just number of circles confirmed
Since we still have 2 months until the actual event, it's not the final numbers

>>25906378
so does 2hu

>>25906318
>>25906378
>>25906189

>>25906378
While true uh....
........
Have you SEEN the QUALITY of some of that stuff? Like Yeesh.

>>25906357
That would work, but the format wouldn't work if they plan on expanding the world for other projects. Small short stories of different livers doesn't expand the world, I haven't watched nichijou but it's like asobi asobase right? Their world is kept into one place and used to deliver a certain punchline.

>>25906191
>Also
>NijiHolo ratio on Vcarnival and Vfest this year
>There's a big Vidol concert this year with Im@s, LoveLive, Holo, VWP, VALIS and Umamusume, but no niji...

>>25906378
>>25906318
KEK like clockwork
>>25906189

Honorary Holo

>>25906378
You can have your own con and still have big Comiket numbers
Wasn't Hololive gonna hold their own con too?

>>25906547
The first Honorary Holo..

>>25906538
No one says it more popular than Comiket but the numbers for Niji wouldn't be accurate if you include Comiket numbers only

>>25906572
>have big comiket numbers
look at this anon

2 hours to go for collab, Gura frame has:
>1.8k waiting
>5.1k likes
People really excited for cunny

>>25906572
Holoket exists, yeah
Pretty sure it's smaller than the Niji thing tho

>>25906378
also most popular Niji members are males and male characters have less doujins than female characters with similar popularity (from my observation, could be wrong)

>>25905955
>Gura back to her 20k median
>recline
LMAO

https://twitter.com/RLamtc/status/1535562817038086147
odds on these numbers being accurate?

>>25902114
What are the odds that this guy has been starting shit in the last 2 weeks just to make another epic 4chan compilations video (the only kind of content that gives him views)

>>25906761
>EN is 10 Guras

>>25906703
who doesn't ?

>>25906547

>>25906808
SO EVERYTHING THAT MAKES ME WHORE

>>25905109
>Wasting numbers on failure like nijien
LMAO No

>>25906790
wouldn't be surprised if that's the case

last recorded waiting room for the holoearth thing is between 12-13k

>already 22K for holoearthTV

26k now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQCgFX2Dihw

Did the quality of the PV really broke nijiniggers?

>>25902114
This basically summed up the whole board for the first half of 2022
>Vox inclining
>Shitposting
>Kobo overtook Vox
>Shitposting harder
>Salome overtook everyone
>Shitposting from both side

ねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねねね

>35K
Hey, that's pretty good

HOLOGOLD

Sorry fags but it’s time for the SEEDS to enter

>>25906964
all hags again......

>>25907058
Numbers are powerful. They're an entropic force that rots everything they touch

How the fuck anycolor supposed to compete with hololive now ? Anime project is confirmed

Are these three the ones that actually know video games within HoloJP?

>40K
HOW THE FUCK?

>>25906761
Salome gets 100k every stream
20k is 2 view tier lmao

>>25906189
Called it anon, Nijicope revving up

>>25906318
>>25906378

>>25907145
Salome is more than anything Cover can dish out

>>25907216

>Coping with salami

Are numberfags forgetting seeds24? Why is everyone acting retarded today?

wait it goes back to 2019?

>>25906790
There was lots of obvious bait screencapped so it's not impossible

>>25907189
>Desuwa gets 100k every stream
He doesn't know......

gen5/6 schizo broke containment again, come get your man

Why are you retards ignoring this?
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjrPrY0wwbW_0O10-35rPe4DXSenPOhBr

>>25907254
real numbers will come up after vkani is done

>>25907254
Whichever wins between those two, I win.

>>25907294
we don't actually watch nijis

>aqua
closed the stream
btw do we have a list of who the d1 and d2 peopel are?

>>25907341

>>25907145
>Anime project is confirmed
We don't know what is it yet. It could turn out to be a disaster like pic rel

>>25907294
Holoearth is more hype

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>shitposters shitposting about niji and holo, both posting copes
>ignore one of the biggest seeds events that’ll test the SEEDS fanbase box pushing
>/#/ decides just to shitpost about anything else

What the fuck is wrong with numberfags

>>25907341
today is mostly trash, everything worth (MaiR, Ruri and Kotone) already performed

>>25907294
Too many things are happening now

>>25907363
Did Siro go back to her old face?

More clip numbers.

1 Hyakumantenbara Salome 2516270
2 Gawr Gura 1006912
3 Houshou Marine 736031
4 Kobo Kanaeru 721884
5 Sakura Miko 654650
6 Oozora Subaru 649338
7 Kuzuha 576685
8 Ouro Kronii 541967
9 Kazama Iroha 523188
10 Kanae 471085
11 La+ Darknesss 463038
12 Hoshimachi Suisei 445393
13 Usada Pekora 444040
14 Hololive VTuber Group 443789
15 Sakamata Chloe 423152
16 Ratna Petit 358145
17 Shirogane Noel 317856
18 Nijisanji 316293
19 Tokoyami Towa 302561
20 Amane Kanata 302150
21 Himemori Luna 300502
22 Takane Lui 300213
23 Lauren Iroas 296489
24 Shishiro Botan 292790
25 Nakiri Ayame 288332
26 Inugami Korone 276409
27 Hakos Baelz 273350
28 Ninomae Ina’nis 268923
29 Mori Calliope 264815
30 Yukihana Lamy 255230
31 Hakui Koyori 242775
32 Watson Amelia 240081
33 Tsunomaki Watame 220996
34 Takanashi Kiara 220131
35 Mysta Rias 218868
36 Vox Akuma 215745
37 Minato Aqua 198520
38 Ceres Fauna 194469
39 Kenmochi Toya 188616
40 Tsukumo Sana 183057
41 Nanashi Mumei 181492
42 Ike Eveland 179931
43 Fuwa Minato 176092
44 IRyS 175732
45 Ange Katrina 174368
46 Shiranui Flare 172684
47 Shirakami Fubuki 171392
48 Murasaki Shion 171390
49 Ibrahim 171110
50 Kaela Kovalskia 169423

Basically the same (Salome, Gura, Miko, Kobo, Kuzuha, Kanae, Kronii), except with Marine and Subaru making the top 10 with their recent streams. After removing the official NJ streams that contaminated the results, it turns out they aren't clipped as often. Split is HL:14.9M to NJ:11.3M. This is more than the previous days in general.
Other interesting observations:
Ratna Petit (idk this person) has been getting some traction from dedicated clippers.
Ayame shot up to 25th in the past 2 days from >50th. Same with Luna who shot up to 21st from 71th in the same period.
HL gets clipped more often in general. There isn't a good way to describe this, as average/median both are diluted with sub-100-view clips, but clips that contributed over 100 views to the tally are about 10k to 7k.
Rushia(96) and Coco(107) still get more clip views attributed to their channels than the majority of NJ.

>>25907363
>all the heavy hitters are on day 2

>>25907363
Day 1 is obvious winner, but Day 2 has the Uma musume girls as special guests so that will be a big draw.

>>25907384
We don't give a shit about your dying company. Go shitpost somewhere else, you're third to VSPO

>>25907384
Who the fuck are SEEDS?

>>25907363
>5niji v 10holo
Kek

>Face of the Hololive
>Same status as Sora
This broke enschizos

>>25907384
Your mistake is thinking people here actually watch streams or care about vtubers

DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>25907441
add commas to your numbers fuckwit

>>25907363
I hate that we're getting wigger + suisei day 2 together more than likely instead of a repeat of last year's super kino himehina/suisei

>>25907502
No one fucking cares.

Here comes the cope

>>25907363
How come Mito has the same kanji in her name as Usada but it's pronounced differently?

>>25907502
That’s what you fags get for ignoring the shit I’ve been posting, retarded numberfags

>>25907474
>one decent singer from each
>music event
why

>>25907502
>beaten by the SNEED
will holobronies ever recover from this?

>>25907502
This would make for a fun horse race but Salome already won the day so … better luck next time?

>>25907384
What event. Link?

>>25907527
I want Hachi x Suisei....

>>25907502
You cannot make this shit up, holobronies forgot about this and thought they had a sure win.

>>25907530
>>25907548

>>25907502
All holo fans are watching V cunny, Negi U is on as we speak, just bad timing from Cover

It's almost as if the only people who ever bring up Nijisanji are shitposters doing it because they refuse to let the thread be peaceful.

Looks like baby's first unity game.

>>25907593
SEEDS24

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjrPrY0wwbW_0O10-35rPe4DXSenPOhBr

>>25907610
>numbers thread
>bring up big numbers
>reeeeeeeeeeeee

>>25907515
Was directly pasting them from the sheet and tab character doesn't show up. I'll do it in the future.
1,Hyakumantenbara Salome,2514151
2,Gawr Gura,1006912
3,Houshou Marine,736031
4,Kobo Kanaeru,721884
5,Sakura Miko,654650
6,Oozora Subaru,649338
7,Kuzuha,576685
8,Kazama Iroha,523188
9,Ouro Kronii,520754
10,Kanae,471085
11,La+ Darknesss,463038
12,Hoshimachi Suisei,445393
13,Usada Pekora,444040
14,Hololive VTuber Group,443789
15,Sakamata Chloe,421880
16,Ratna Petit,358145
17,Shirogane Noel,317856
18,Nijisanji,316293
19,Tokoyami Towa,302561
20,Amane Kanata,302150
21,Himemori Luna,300502
22,Takane Lui,300213
23,Lauren Iroas,296489
24,Shishiro Botan,292790
25,Nakiri Ayame,288332
26,Inugami Korone,276409
27,Hakos Baelz,273350
28,Ninomae Ina’nis,268923
29,Mori Calliope,264815
30,Yukihana Lamy,255230
31,Hakui Koyori,242574
32,Watson Amelia,240081
33,Tsunomaki Watame,220996
34,Takanashi Kiara,220131
35,Mysta Rias,218868
36,Vox Akuma,215745
37,Minato Aqua,198520
38,Ceres Fauna,194469
39,Kenmochi Toya,188616
40,Tsukumo Sana,183057
41,Nanashi Mumei,181492
42,Ike Eveland,179931
43,Fuwa Minato,176092
44,IRyS,175732
45,Ange Katrina,174368
46,Shiranui Flare,172684
47,Shirakami Fubuki,171392
48,Murasaki Shion,171390
49,Ibrahim,171110
50,Kaela Kovalskia,169423

Dare i say Minecraft killer?
Also someone gotta make a thread about this on /v/ , imagine the seethe

>>25907643
Who are they? Niji subgroup? How do they differ from the main branch?

>Inb4 COPE SEETHE BRONIES HAHAHA
Anyone who brings up Nijishit always follows it up with bait and attempts to piss people off. This is why we don't care about Nijishit, it is always just shutposting

>>25907601
i actually forgot the holoass stream was today as well

>>25907502
OH NO OH NO OH NO
HOLOBROS????

>>25907568
we don't count Salome for a reason anon

>>25907699
Transparent attempt to bait
It's almost as if you literally brought it up just to spam the thread with this garbage

>>25907720
butthurt?

>>25907748
because it makes the horserace boring

>>25907679
Former sub group, debuted with 10+ livers at once. A crazy bunch that changed the vtubing game back in the day.

COME ON SCORE SOME FUCKING GOLDS

>>25907767
just give it time, no king rules forever

>>25907679
Imagine gamers, now imagine that instead of debuting 3 people at once they debuted a dozen, and also the whole thing got folded into the rest of normal nijisanji not long afterwards

>>25907690
>nijicope
>Nijinigger
>nijichink
don't pretend like you fags don't do the same thing

>>25907792
When holos at v carnival finish their song in a minute it will shoot up

>unique posters
>Salome insertion shitposts
>Salome discounting shitposts
Can the subhumans go back?

>>25907823
No, that's still just you falseflagging as a holofan to give yourself an excuse to attack. Every single thing you do is evil, and every wrong thing is in fact your fault. Deal with it, you are always the problem

OH NO NO NO NIJIBROS

>>25907502
>>25907792
Know your place desuwa~

>>25907953
Salome already won the day

>Who's going to win? The largest vtuber company across the world with international appeal announcing the next step in their metaverse project or a bunch of literal who's watching a tuna cutting show?

>>25907953
>Salami already at 70k+ for today's gold
None of this matters.

>>25907976
We don't count salome here

The race for silver is so fierce bros.

>>25907928
>muh falseflaggers
you're not even trying

I'm so fucking tired of the transparent bait and samefagging routine that happens every day.

>>25908016
does the hololive main channel even count in the tally?

>>25907502
DON'T CALL IT A COMEBACK

>>25907832
>>25907605
Yea, like I said

>>25907975
>>25907976
>>25907998
>Some dude talking about tuna cutting(?) Seeds thingy vs holo talk
>Holo peak to 58k
>sAlOmE StiLl WoN1!1!
The cope