/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>25862885
I love to see it. Wrecked the entire Council.

Councilfags don't look...

>>25862925
I swear to god their numbers haven't changed at all.

>>25862885
>Oh yeah council didn't do as well as they expected

>>25862885
This is heresy.

>>25862885
IRyS is next!!

>>25863073
Holy based

>>25863073
I don't even see why this was a controversial statement. Council didn't even try (except for the rrat), no shit they aren't doing well now.

>>25863011
why would they, they barely stream.

>>25862885
Can't wait for the councilkeks to come in here and spout their cull cope again

>>25863073
Neither did he

>>25863244
COPE is my favorite gen!

sorry not sorry

>>25862925
And you're ignoring she will wreck entire HoloX soon

>>25863241
>they barely stream
kroni stream everyday for the past 4 days you fuck
cope harder councilkeks

>>25863374
Yeah and she also had a meltdown and went members only.

Who would want to watch a cringe hag like that?

Council is a failure

>It's only good to care about numbers if it's used against someone I hate.
/vt/ and many such cases. Kobo has been very nomrie for a while and becoming less interesting.

>>25863374
I think he's talking about for most of their career, retard.

Cunnychads can't keep getting away with this

>>25863302
Fuuchan has been inclining slightly

when EN was mogging ID, ENsharts couldn't fucking wait to rub it in their faces.
now that ID has their onw powerhouse, it suddenly became bad to retaliate

>>25863446
Those of us who got membership the first day it was an option.

>>25863374
She streamed 4 days, IN A ROW?!
WHYYYYYYY IS SHE NOT AT 1 MILLION SUBS?

>>25863374
After an year of no streams, 4 days of streaming aren't gonna make up for that

>>25862885
Kronii-chuds, what the fuck happened?

>>25863171
cause numberfagging in general is retarded and tribalfaggy.

>>25863073
based Fungus

>>25863713
HoloID except Kobo are still 1k CCV trash tho...

Days to 1 million
Gura - 37
Mori - 135
Ame - 151
Ina - 256
Kiara - 260
Irys - 334+
Gen 2 - 291+

>>25863073
>Says from a 2views

>>25863883
doesn't really matter, as long as there is one then that means others could follow, whether it's future or current gens

>>25863073

>>25863752
Talking about getting new followers you retard.

This is the average viewer iq at work huh

>>25863964
Holy fucking kek

>>25863073
based fungus. kobo will come for your head next, oh wait...

>>25863904
Truly bizarre

>>25863302
He unironically does not want channel growth. He intentionally debuffed himself with a shitty name, shitty debut, and came out of the gate with the "no parasocial" shit months ago. That's why it's so ironic that he was the one to say that

>>25863964
>>25863073
>losing to the nigger

>>25863171
Tribalfaggotry, plain and simple.
My oshi is from council and you'd have to be a retard to not think they underperformed in cover's eyes.
Which is a good thing because it means its easier to get attention from her.

>>25863073
>says the gen that has trouble beating the other IDs at times

>>25863883
>he hasn't been paying attention
Risu had a 10K stream recently. Even Anya got 3K during Bioshock.
All of them have been inclining hard ever since the concert.

>>25864695
>Risu had a 10K stream recently
That's a collab with Kobo retard

>>25863073
BASED

>>25862885
Remember when basically all of /vt/ were convinced Kronii would overtake Gura in a manner of months? Lmao.

>>25864915
Her shade of blue wasn't light enough

>>25862885
Well deserved. Kobo is far more talented than Kronii. Why the heck is she the most subbed in council anyway?

>>25862925
.t me

Council was truly the blunder of the century

soon...

>>25863964
This makes me laugh because it just proves what conner said about holobronies

>>25864915
Can't really blame them. Kronii was mogging myth with plain Minecraft streams, until she started debuffing herself by making Minecraft a sacred thing, moving onto shit games anf streams, taking breaks, dropping games, shunning down her booba and going menhera...

>>25865871
Ironic that you forgot the biggest self debuff she's done becasue she precisely did it because of those two streams. Moving from 9pm est to 11pm est time slot because she didnt want to stream over collabs. Now collabs don't even happen anymore unless she's involved and most of the east and central time zones don't watch her live.

>>25865871
Everybody gets decent numbers with Minecraft streams. It's literally THE buff game out of all them. I would hardly call getting 1k more CCV on the most popular streaming game for vtubers, over a rpg collab that people got bored of after the first 2 sessions a "mogging".

>>25866427
>Now collabs don't even happen anymore unless she's involved
What a load of shit. She tagged onto the end of the last Minecraft collab for like an hour or something. The larger EN collabs before that (Overwatch and another MC stream) didn't involve her at all.

The prophecy was true.

>>25866659
It's a formula that works. Most of HoloMyth never streamed in a big way outside of Ame (who was a 2view anyway). Mori and Kiara both had shit rigs and didn't have a clue about what to do. But they each had something about them and it worked out very well. These council members (& IRyS) have been selected based on really strange merits, such as having high views on a single YouTube video, wanting to be a voice actress but could never land a job (gee I wonder why) and being friends with somebody already hired. It's fucking weird man.

>>25866659
>Prophecy
He(You) didn't predict some 1 in a 100 chance outcome. Kobo had fast growth.

>>25866659
>Less than a month ago
>Kobo was already near council and still growing
That's not how screencap posts you dumb seanig

>>25866950
exactly

>>25866987
>>25867068
not the point of the screencap. council was beaten by kobo, because hololive hired based on merit, not passion, and its why a indonesian teen without a pc is beating them

>>25867161
>not the point of the screencap
>posts own screenshot with "prophecy was true"
You literally wrote that as the point of your own screenshot

>>25867161
I agree council was on merit but kobo's passion isn't vtubing she never watched streams before she auditioned

>>25862885
I cant wait for EN 3 to come and expose these lazy shits.
Everytime you say Council underperformed you're met with one of those responses, the EN market is saturated so their underperformance is understandable and Myth was the EN first gen or was too good so they would never have anything close to their success.These girls single handedly dropped the balls with the EN market that their senpais worked hard for a year to substain by themselves and now they're burned out...
So we're stuck with a gen that doesn't stream and one who just have no energy left compared to their first year, this season 2 of HoloEN is just worst than the first and there is no contest,We have less events ,we have over twice the numbers of talents but its still feel like we have less streams and the joy of the first year is just gone,be it in the overall community or streamers themselves, even the ones who joined recently dont have that spark.

>>25866659
I hope they hire tryhards who stream 6 days a week for EN gen 3. No tolerance for lazies this time.

>>25865183
Coomer bait model and voice. All you need apparently to get yes men.

>>25866659
kek

>>25866950

What was watsons actual viewcount back then?

>>25868438
> Myth was the EN first gen or was too good so they would never have anything close to their success.
cuckbeat pls myth is also a failure with lazy talentless bitches who parasitize on brand

>>25868438
Myth worked hard?
you are a retard

>>25865183
>Why the heck is she the most subbed in council anyway

Reddit pandering and meme-spouting go very far.

>>25868438
>I cant wait for EN 3
>let's fix the lazy whore problem by hiring more lazy whores

>>25868438
No more Holo EN. Hololive needs to fire everybody, apologise to President Xi, and finally get back to what works: Holo CN.

>>25870378
Cope harder faggit

>EN3 debuts
>they initially show promise and usher in a renaissance of HoloEN in the public eye for the first month
>they get the taste of fame and their first paycheck
>slowly start to get lazier
>they take after their senpai and start doing the bare minimum three streams per week

HoloEN girls honestly have it too easy. EN3 will become lazy before you know it, just like Council and Myth before them.

Unironically, Kronii would be happier if she had half the number of subscribers.

>>25875623
This is exactly what will happen. HoloEN needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

>>25866659
you know the face of myth (Gura) was the lazy one, that's why all council is lazy as fuck

>>25866659
tl dr. id management > en management

>>25863836
she hates us

>>25863073
AIEEEEE I KNEEL COVID-SAMA

>>25868438
>we have over twice the numbers of talents but its still feel like we have less streams
1 are trying to have as high as energy like ollie but failed, 3 are having deadtones way of talking, one (which actually have a skill to stream) are MIA and only stream once per 3 months

>>25880254
>3 are having deadtones way of talking
fuck me for not wanting streamers to shout in my ear and be fake hyper 24/7, right? zoomerbrains and amerifaggots think it's boring content when you aren't getting yelled at but that shit makes me feel my age

>>25863904
niji will beat that record holokek

>>25863964
Nice ENshart, but in the end both of NijiEN and HoloEN still a failure. Only HoloID and JP matters

>>25879746
Because HoloID prohibit transfaggot like Omega to become manager.

>>25883083
>HoloEN a failure
Only in your head

>>25863073
>Councilfags seething because he was right

He could be a literal 1view, the man has a functioning brain and no amount of shit flinging can counter his very basic logic of Council being shit because they expected instant success and folded when it didn't arrive

>>25883083
>HoloID matters
Moona single handedly saved ID from the Holostars treatment, and now they're barely entering their renaissance.
Let's see how quickly they squander their success (though i think with they way Ollie and Iofi act now, it might be happening sooner than expected)

>>25883584
Damn, imagine liking inferior side branch rather than enjoy contents on main branch. You deserve a glass of lean buddy.

>>25863171
It's not, but people want to feel outraged and wrap their personal identities in which vtubing company they watch.

>>25884023
Imagine watching something in a language you don't even understand. Keep dreaming that your Japanese though buddy.

>>25884012
speaking of which
what's next for holoid? it's been a while since 3rd fes' hype
what is the next upcoming big thing that people should wait and anticipate for?

I could give less of a shit about Kobo and her offputting kiddie voice. All I care about is that this useless, apathetic, "gender-fluid" piece-of-goose-shit is going to be buried under some literal who indog who outclasses her without even trying.
God I hate this fucking cunt so much.

>>25883083
Based

>>25884367
Moona's EP release this year.
ID server finally connected to other server
3rd gen Independence day costume
Maybe they'll release another folk songs medley again or a new group song.

>>25884367
Standard nothing burgers
>Half year anni
>some number celebration
>Seasonal merch
>New Outfits

>>25884230
>Chumbuds
Opinion discarded

>>25884746
Good deflection, you still haven't said why HoloEN is a failure though.

>>25863374
lmao

>>25864125
holy cope

>>25884857
Maybe if cover mindful enough give them proper 3D model for you oshi lol.

>>25866659
true, Suisei and Calli are good examples

...

>>25885073
>Maybe if cover mindful enough
SEAnigger opinion discarded learn English

>>25885166
Go back shoot children Amerimutt

>>25884857
>No 3D
>Successful
Roru

>>25884367
Nothing, everyone except Kobo will slowly recline and back being sub 1k streamer if nothing changes.

>>25885262
Go back to your pag pag stupid SEAnigger

>>25863302
based.

>>25885469
You can even locate where is SEA just like your oshi kek

>>25862885
Blue is powerful but blue + cunny is unbeatable.

>>25864915
Nowadays it's the reverse, only a handful of people says that Kobo has the potential to overtake Gura, /vt/ just dismissed them. In fact, Kobo has a serious chance to overtake Gura.
People are thinking that Gura killer should have an explosive growth like Salome, but the abnormal steady growth that Kobo has could be the ticking time bomb that /vt/ has always been waiting for.

>>25866659
>prophecy
>mid May
anon, anyone who follows Kobo's growth understands as early as April that Kobo will surpass Council.

>>25862885
Great, now I'm gonna laugh at the seanig whenever Kobo gets mogged by Kronni since they can't use their sub/CCV ratio cope anymore lol

>>25883083
>Gura gets a statue
>Nips kneel to her
>EN is a failure
really nigga?
>>25884604
YWNBJ

>>25887017
EN as a whole is a failure except for Mori and Gura.
Botg of them are still the only hololive talent with more than a million subscribers.

>>25887391
I dunno having two of the most successful talents and a generation of all around succesful talents and another of more or less succesful ones doesn't screeam failure to me

>>25862885
>not realizing that after the French program the new bot tech can’t even be discovered by youtube itself

>>25885469
not everyones is pignoy anon

>>25863073
It was true all along. At last. I truly understand. I am sorry Fulgur-sama. Please kiss my wife.

>>25862885
I'm glad for both of their successes and I hope they both reach a million this year!

>>25868438
>Myth worked hard
KEK, cuckbeats are embarassing.

Nijisanji typically only gets around a couple hundred viewers for normal members
Luxiem was a fluke because the market was open.
He had no pressure to be successful because no one expected Nijisanji’s foreign branches to do well.
Yet everyone makes fun of Fulgur for his statement because “well he has low numbers copeseethe retard lol”. You just don’t want to admit how right he was.

>>25886426
>April
You dont follow her growth retard. She still only grows 3k/day in April. She only explodes into 10k/day after her PvZ stream. And no, despite what retards always said the ban doesn't help much, if at all. She only grows 20k/day after the ban for 2 or 3 days, and if you count the number of days she lost it's even out. It's already proven by her 600k-700k growth, it took more or less the same time without the ban.

>>25887010
Kobo has higher peak, average, and median ccc than Kronii anon....

>>25888710
*ccv

Good for Kobo. I'll be honest I don't give a shit about her lmao. She's too ESL for me and I get bored watching her. I prefer Zeta from ID3

>>25885414
I wonder why the other IDs haven't started speaking full indog yet, knowing how successful Kobo is now

>>25863073
EL

HOMBRE

CIBERNÉTICO

FUNGUS

COVID

>>25889899
because they're boring and speaking full indo won't help them. i know you're a newfag, but area15 already did that it back then. the reason why they speak english now is because they get big from leeching enfags, and now that all enfags stop watching them their ccv crumble (before holofes and id3 save them again).

>>25863073
Fulgur I kneel...

>>25863073
yeah Fulgur was right. as a failure too he knows the best, idk why people so mad

>>25889899
>>25890147
Yeah adding onto this guys point, they only started seeing success with English. If you look at their views comparatively their Indo only streams are shit compared to their English ones.

Personally,I sure as shit don't watch Indo only streams lmao. I only speak English and get bored easily when watching a foreign language stream

>>25863073

I hate Nijiniggas but he was right wtf...

As a Holochad I wish council + mori didnt exist.

>>25864588
>>25863840
It's not tribalfagging, just like how people get exited whenever they meet someone with the same hobby, as a failure himself he's just exited that he has a lot of failure friends.

>>25888601
Yes I do smartass. I've said in /ehe~/ (or /aer/ back then) from the end of March that she's gonna be big.
Her explosive growth was apparent since April, when her genmates slumped in subs growth and ccv she kept it steady. It is true that her second rise started from early May, but from April it was apparent that her growth is sustainable.

>>25890598
3k/days is not enough to surpass council retards, please learn math

I'll be honest I don't really understand what the fuss is about Kobo and why people are making a big deal about her. Like Ollie and Moona are already doing insanely well for ID so it isn't that strange one of gen 3 also got popular.

I don't really think her speaking mostly only ID is a big deal desu. I feel like that'll hurt her growth eventually just for the fact there's a limit to the ID audience.

>>25890598
>from the end of March
you don't even know when they debut

>but from April it was apparent that her growth is sustainable
yes, but she's "just" big. it's not "beating council and holox" level yet. she won't pass kronii with her april's growth.

>>25890765
>there's a limit to the ID audience
ah yes, unlike the JP and EN audience which has no limits
retards

>>25890765
Every audiences have limit retard.

>>25890765
if iD is limiting the audience then JP should've been the same.
that's the reason why clippers and live translation exist retard.

>>25890971
>>25891001
Don't get your panties in a bunch and resort to insults anons. Just because you two hate facts doesn't mean its not true. Indo isn't that popular of a language compared to English or hell even Japanese lmao

>>25890765
>Like Ollie and Moona are already doing insanely well for ID
>for ID
That's the reason anon. She's not just big "for ID", she's not just big for hololive standard, she's big for every vtubers standard. At this rate she's on track to become the 2nd fastest holos to get 1m subs. And unlike Kronii/Chloe, her growth hasn't slowed down yet.

>I feel like that'll hurt her growth eventually just for the fact there's a limit to the ID audience
People said that since April anon, and the only thing that happens is her growth actually inclined.

>>25891137
>Just because you two hate facts doesn't mean its not true.
Buy a mirror.

>>25891137
There are only around 120 millions japanese speakers in the world, and Indonesian have more than 200 milion speakers. If we added Malays speakers because the 70% shared vocabulary, it will reach 250 million speakers, EN even with their massive numbers have been oversaturated by numerous chuubas they shits out some even try to pander to chinese and SEA

>>25891543
Anon I hate to break it to you but there's more people in Japan who watch anime than in Indonesia. So you're potential audience is a lot smaller than the population size.

>>25891767
>more people in Japan who watch anime
>anime
that's your mistake. you still think in your small weebs world

>>25891956
If you believe that shit I have a bridge in New York I can sell you

>>25891767
Who cares about shitty weebs when you can get mainstream audience anon. Also with your logic shouldn't Ollie the trillingual beats her?

>you're potential audience
>you're
anon....

>>25891767
Kek, do you think only weebs who watch Vtuber anon? Surprise-surprise normies also watch them as well, that's why Salome and Kobo is popular, normies and weebs can easily watch them.

>>25862885
>JP biggest gen: 3
>EN biggest gen: 1
>ID biggest gen: 3
>ES biggest gen:

>>25882974
Salomi already did lmao.

>>25892657
now this is actual based post. holoES when Yagoo??

>>25865183
Kronii has autism and the most subbed in her gen, Moona has autism and the most subbed in her gen. I'm starting to see a pattern here anon

>>25893070
where's peko

>>25893166
Kaela has autism and the least subbed in her gen.
Nice try anon.

>>25862885
Blue cun is too strong

>>25893292
still dead

>>25893342
only 1 cute autistic chuuba per branch anon

>>25893342
She's a hag and cute autist if not for LoL and Kobo she would be the most subbed at least that's how it goes in my head

>>25890765
for kobo, i cant wait when her 2view chubbas friends and attention beggar chubbas that always appear in her chat are gone when shes not relevant anymore

>>25894162
don't worry anon, she will stay relevant and she will collabs with them, and you gonna love it.

>>25894162