/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>25849094
Why do you think the dog died?

>>25849094
>Does she have no shame?
Find me an Aussie vtuber who takes both themselves and vtubing seriously.

>>25849094
She has another channel where she streams actively. All those "cant stream cuz muh back problems" are literally a lie.
She is a dirty SEA whore after all.

>>25849219
Maybe Moot was right all along

>Sana you're in of the biggest vtuber agencies and you have a lot of dedicated fans
Yes
>Why don't you stream mor-
No

>>25849245
name of the channel?

>Took 2 days to mourn her dead dog of 13years
>Took advice from her mom about how the world don't stop
>Back to reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHV0Z43JcSo

>>25849606
That doesn't speak good of her, it makes her look heartless.

>>25849606
I would respect her if she didn't have the biggest possible woman moment 2 weeks ago

>shit guys the IRyS bait threads we spammed all week had no effect what do we do?
>just pick another target

>>25849661
cause using your dog death to take 1month break comes from a big heart
lmao

>>25849094
Ina is still getting all the lesbian sex she wants

can't stop winning

>>25849727
Sana's birthday stream in less than 24 hours, that's why she's being targeted. All her antis know she's going to make a lot of money for doing fuck all. This is more justified than IRyS' hate.

>>25849589
I need to know too

>>25849925
>>25849589
None. That Anon is fucking retarded, threadreader that can't fucking read.

She was active on her roomate Twitter, not on streams.

>>25850116
lol
lmao

>>25850326
hey I don't mind being wrong bro, feel free give them the name of the channel then

>>25850116
This 100% is bait to drag the hate on.

>>25850356
weird way of asking to be spoonfed

>>25849897
>Ina
>gay
RUMAO, she's the second straightest EN after Mori.

>>25850377
yeah yeah sure sure

>>25849094
Seething reject

>>25850116
dammit thought she was just busy on her other channel but she's just a lazy fuck

>>25850356
just a rrat, don't be tricked by niggas

>>25850356
I haven't been the same after the war in vietnam . . .

>>25849873
>Tell me you are Indonesian without telling me you are Indonesian

>>25849094
Sana's birthday is the most disgraceful birthday in Holo history. Dragging Council down, achieved nothing great, yet a lot of Holos still have to appear in her birthday stream to celebrate with her. There isn't really a fucking thing to celebrate though

I honestly think she is at least partially motivated by pure spite over having trash numbers since before even debuting. She doesn't care about Hololive anymore and wants you to know it.

>>25850681
It does make me think badly of Australians

>active streaming
She only streamed twice
And it's Genshin so Sana can't stream it because chinks etc etc
Also it's because she needs to draw Genshin for Pixiv event

Sana, if you're here to read anti threads, please play One Way Heroics.

>>25850785
Sana: Is that a new Nintendo game?

>>25849094
In the trash can that is HoloEN, Sana manages to be the worst, it takes effort.

I really need to know

is it more pathetic to be a Deadbeat or a Sanalite?

>>25849094
Her rm career taking off that's why she doesn't have time for Hololive and only treating it as side gig. It's better for her to graduate and focus on her main job.

>>25850810
Actually, it did get ported to Nintendo Switch relatively recently...

>>25850669
meds

>>25850835
Prime Myth is good, Council without Sana will be far better.

>>25850720
I literally don't understand why anyone takes Sana seriously considering she has thick Aussie blood. It's a common theme with her antis. They obviously don't get Australians at all. Sana and the Sanallites are constantly just having fun and not giving a shit. If she's not streaming, the Sanallites entertain themselves and just chat shit or enjoy their hobbies. When she streams everyone just has a good time. The antis seethe so much more than the Sanallites do, when they're the only ones that actually have the right to feel angry because they're the only ones that actually watch her fucking streams unlike SEA threadfags.

>>25850891
LOL~~~~~~
ok Sana might play it

>>25850870
At this point, probably a sanalite. Mori tries at least.

>>25850920
> If she's not streaming, the Sanallites entertain themselves and just chat shit or enjoy their hobbies. When she streams everyone just has a good time.
Ayame: I don't usually compliment people. But when I do, it's Tsukumo Sana.

>>25849094
Ina, Sana, and Loserbait(Omega) are all "friends" from their FFXIV guild or whatever it's called. Sana was probably a test to see how a brown skinned holo did in EN. Sana hates it and Omega seethes about it.

>>25849416
I like it when sanalites defend her by making her seem like an asshole

>>25849094
What is her endgame? I'm genuinely curious

>>25851054
God I hate this fucking gook clique so much. I fucking hate Ina. Even back in the debut months it rubbed me the wrong way that only she got a super special SNOWFLAKE mod for her chat (Omegatroon) constantly attentionwhoring and making passive-aggressive bitchy comments and being an obvious roommate ffxivniggertranny associate.
Fucking nepotistic whores all of them and it all started with Inigger and her omegatroon bf.

>>25849094
taking breaks because of minor health issues and irrelevant shit like a pet's death is the most pathetic thing a vtuber can do and shows just how little they care about the hobby

>>25851133

>>25851131
Sana never really starts her game.

>>25851042
>only Ayame calls in

>>25851133
>Inigger
Holy shit my fucking sides

>>25851211
Sanalite only replies with this pic coz they're unable to refute or debunk anything

>>25851244
If Ayame calls in I fuckin kneel

>>25849589
>>25849925
>>25850116
>>25850356
>>25850444
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx6h43OXFM7OuER4iJqWaSg
look at this cute pngtuber playing chink game i just found

>>25851405
Welp, the rrat was right.

>>25851405
>only 2 short streams
>channel just created recently so nothing to do with the back issues/dog thing
This is not even on the level of what other Niji/Holos do with their alts too, what exactly are you people getting angry about here?

>>25851302
Sana and Omegatroon are seaniggers, like you

>>25851405
This is part of her side job you morons. They asked her to do this. This wasn't some random thing she decided to do as a post-Hololive transition like Mori and Kiara. It's going to be a clean cut when she goes. Stop spreading shit about my oshi.

>>25849219
Hakos Baelz

>>25851133
I have never watched Ina but is this real?
If so holy shit

>>25851595
>what exactly are you people getting angry about here?
her not streaming, you fucking retard

>>25851636
Mori/Kiara had their thing before Hololive too.

Just like many other corpo vtubers, no idea why people are starting with this "you have to leave your other works, stop doing everything in your life and only do Holo/Niji/etc"

>>25851405
I blame Coco and Haachama for this.

the more I look into Sana's background, the more I think Sana is an extremely bad hire

>>25851595
Its one schizo setting the gotcha up for himself to reply to, this is at least the third time hes done exactly the same thing.

>>25851595
There's nothing wrong with a vtuber doing their own stuff if they're very active as a vtuber and care for their fans. This is why Mori and Kiara get away with it. Hate them all you want, they put in the time and effort into Hololive and actually care about the company. Sana likes Hololive and its JP members, but she gives no shits for the company, has no loyalty towards her fans or genmates and doesn't fucking stream.

>>25851595
When you say that you literally cant stream because you are completely fucked up and then stream anyways, it really doesnt look good.

>>25851813
Besides ITT, what other dirt she has?

>>25851796
Sana did too. You can even check old posts* and see she had a streaming setup around 2019.

>>25851595
They're about two hours each, not exactly "short." And yes, we know that her fake dead dog and fake back hort aren't affecting her streaming - that's the point, in fact.

>>25851746
But she is.
>2 streams in the last 10 days in her Holo channel, one 3 hours and one 5 hours
>2 streams on this recent channel, both 2 hours long
So she came back into activity at the same time on both channels, she's not leaving one for the other

>>25851826
> she gives no shits for the company, has no loyalty towards her fans or genmates and doesn't fucking stream.
Also doesn't fucking draw, despite being her only forte. Now explain to me how the fuck Sana passed the audition.

>>25851826
>Mori
>put in the time and effort into Hololive

>>25851636
Uh... I thought the point of a side job was that it was on the side, not a replacement for the main job.

>>25851636
>This is part of her side job you morons. They asked her to do this.
Possibly the most retarded thing I've ever read.

>>25851923
Think about Sana, and say that again

>>25851796
if you already don't have enough time to dedicate yourself to one project, whatever the reason might be, why start another (identical) one in parallel?

>>25851687

>>25851890
>2 streams in the last 10 days
jesus christ, is that supposed to be a gotcha?

>>25851880
>2 hours
>not short
Yes it is, it's short as fuck

what kind of streamer are you watching for your standards to be this weird, a "long" stream is at least 8 hours, 4-6 is standard

>>25851968
You haven't get used to Sanalites my friend

>>25852002
He's a Salome nogger.

>>25851985
Simple. Because Sana has premeditated to scam Hololive. It turned out to be working wonder.

>>25851978
I don't care about Sana, cuckbeat

>>25849700
what woman moment

Do you guys think she would have given a shit if the dog didn't die on her basically on debut?

>Kronii RM appears on other streams with much more enthusiasm as her genderfluid self
>Sana RM does genshin streams
is the rest of council just as bad?

>>25851819
idk what schizo youre confusing me with but its not me, this thread just really needed some spoonfeeding

>>25851985
>>25851999
See
>>25852002
My point is that she doesn't.

It's just 4 hours there and 10 hours on Holo for the last 10 days.

You fags are just going schizo over the wrong argument. She's not "active somewhere else instead of Holo", she's still is barely, if not active at all everywhere

>>25849700
This.

>>25852071
>Kronii RM appears on other streams with much more enthusiasm as her genderfluid self
where?

>>25852091
she arguably should have spent those four hours streaming on the main channel

When you are applying for hololive just to add that shit on your CV for your future jobs and NOT stream, you are a dirty lying leech and a whore. Simple as.

>>25852071
No. Fauna is the best Council but only if you don't care about her rm. Mumei is second best but again, only if you just watch for entertainment and cute girl stuff. Bae is forgettable.

>>25852066
People don't change just because a dog died. Sana has to be an unprofessional selfish fuck from the start.

>>25852140
A person with a clear mind. Thank you.

>>25852071
yes, they're all lazy whores only in it for the money

I like how the goalposts are being moved.
First it was
>Its a rrat, anti schizos are at it again
But then
>It...it's just two streams, other holos have side projects too
Sanalites are pathetic cucks.

>>25852071
Because those are her friends from her lesbian friends circle she knows for a much longer time.

Kronii is still active enough so I don't see the point in judging what she does with her free time.

>>25852091
>>25852273
Stop fucking reddit spacing, you nigger

>>25852227
you either work for money or charity
the main thing is working with standards and values

>>25852140
Fuck you. Sana started really strong and put in waaaay more effort than her genmates (pic). Even her debut stream had a lot of effort thrown in. She was really creative and clearly had a lot of motivation to fully throw herself into it. Even fucking /vt/ liked her. Somewhere along the way things fucked up, but don't try and make out she applied for an easy ride.

I don't entirely blame Sana for this shitshow. Sometimes you take a job and then realize it's not for you, but feel obligated to stick around. The real blame lies with 1. Ina, for recommending her in the first place out of pure nepotism. & 2. Cover, for not vetting her at the start or inforcing a stricter streaming output like they've done in the past. Also add onto that whoever was retarded enough to greenlight her design after seeing first hand with Flare that dark skinned models are a debuff.

>>25852240
I'm not a Sanalite you fucking insane twat, are you really this fucking retarded that you're building an argument against me that was talking about her all-around inactivity with some stupid "she was in her alt for 4 hours in the last fucking 20 days".

It makes zero sense because we know she has plenty fo free time you fucking monkey.

You don’t care more about a company than it cares about you, Sana knows the game

>>25850920
>The antis seethe so much more than the Sanallites do, when they're the only ones that actually have the right to feel angry because they're the only ones that actually watch her fucking streams unlike SEA threadfags.
I assure you everyone who watches HoloEN has the right to talk shit about Sana. Sana is the laughing stock of HoloEN not because of her ability, but because of her fucking attitude.

>>25852314
>standards and values
none of them have this

>>25852304
>newfag trying to fit in
That's not what reddit spacing is you dumb retard

>>25852451
>n-no you're the newfag!!!
kill yourself redditnigger

>>25849094
Well okay, you might have a poin-
>rob thousands of indies of their dream job
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>25852374
>somehow, Sana being a lazy niggeress is Ina's fault

Yeah ogey.

>>25852374
Omegatroon had way more of a hand in it than Ina, seanigger

>>25852422
>Sana is the laughing stock of HoloEN not because of her ability, but because of her fucking attitude
Just having fun with her small fanbase, making innocent and childish jokes with a touch of lewdness and streaming when she can? What a disgusting attitude. Fucking whore. She took someone else's spot who would've streamed so much more just like her genmates have prove-

>>25852475
>n-no u
kill yourself discordtranny

>>25852548
You do realize that her genmates stream like 5x as much, right Sanigger?

>>25852420
Knowing the game makes Sana acts like the worst shit in Hololive?

>>25852548
Anon she literally hasn't streamed in a fucking week. A full fucking week. And is now going to come back just for a birthday stream just so that she'll fuck off again for another however many days without actually talking to her fans about anything. She literally doesn't communicate and is somehow worse than fucking Gura about this.

>>25849661
When my father died during high school I went back to school after a weekend because it helped to distract me and back then I had friends.
However, as a streamer it is a balance between crying in front of your audience (pity points, what a bitch) or taking a break (lazy whore). It is tough to have fun or enjoy anything after experiencing loss.
I think if one of my pets dies now I would need a week to go back to work.

>>25852585
And even then they barely stream compared to actual good holos

>>25852608
>She literally doesn't communicate and is somehow worse than fucking Gura about this.
I feel like people underrate how despicable this is.
She doesn't even bother to come up with excuses for her breaks. All while her fans have to pretend to be positive and "ohhh blessed with a rare Sana stream!" in an attempt to appease her

>>25852646
That's a nice deflection Sanigger, but we are talking about Sana. How about you stop trying to change the topic just because you can't refute arguments?

>>25852585
Now compare them to Myth, now compare Myth to JPs and IDs, now compare them to Nijisanji streamers. Council barely fucking stream. Stop trying to make out someone incredibly could've been in her position. They royally fucked up with their picks and it's likely her replacement would've been just as bad or tied down creatively. EN3 will hopefully be better.

>>25852522
Sana couldn't get in without Ina, so Ina should take a huge of blame.

>>25852649
anyone who still has their membership active deserves this

>>25852345
speaking of debut
if you told me those many months ago right after debut that sana would turn out to be a shitter and fauna would turn out to be one of the best ENs by every metric i wouldve called you a schizo
her debut was great its really a shame this is where we are now

>>25852548
>has done a total of 15 streams averaging around 2 hours since April 1st
lol
lmao

>>25852688
kek, I don't give a fuck about Sana. Kronii is the only somewhat decent council holo. At least she enjoys games and has an actual excuse for not streaming more.

>>25852695
EN3 will be worse

>>25852778
>NOO I SWEAR I'M NOT A SANIGGER I'M JUST COINCIDENTALLY IN A SANA THREAD DEFENDING SANA
You lost. I won.
You? Got BTFO.
Me? STOMPED you.

>prioritised her job that pays her higher than Hololive ever will and gives more connection
>treats hololive as a side-hustle
Thats actually pretty smart. You also bet they force her to draw JPonly merch for IRL stores just like they do to Ina (eg gen5 chibi merch from last year in jp stores)

>>25852522
If you read carefully, you'll see that I blamed her design and lazyness on Cover and their staff. While Ina is at fault for putting her name forward. Sana wouldn't have crossed their lips if she didn't suggest her.

>>25852539
>seanigger
le ebin buzzword. I'm no more of a seasnigger than you. But I'm glad they spring into your mind whenever you see something you don't like.

>>25852695
Nene, Roboco, Mel, Haachama, Polka, Gura, Mio.

All of these have streamed less than every council minus Sana since the estart of the year. Shut the fuck up dude.

>>25852707
>fauna
>good
kek, ok seanigger cuck

>>25852812
Impossible. They just need at least 1 hag and cunny and they're set. That will literally save the gen.

>>25852841
Ina treats Hololive as a side-hustle too and yet she still streams regularly (inb4 "muh break" cope)

>>25849094
So why did she make a roommate channel exactly? The non-shitpost reason?

>>25852832
>>25852843
uh oh, the seanigger women are losing it

>>25851659
She's not australian
https://files.catbox.moe/sslyu8.mp4

>>25852844
They also have been doing a lot of 3D work, music and VA stuff. Are you really comparing those JPs to Council? You must be SEA. You actually must be.

>>25852895
Inas roommate doesnt work with big franchises like FGO and Genshit regularly, her recent works were for literal whos indie JRPGs and arknights (along with Sana) from last year.

>>25852707
people were unnecessarily harsh on fauna's debut, I saw a lot of potential from the get go, mumei's is the one that really was a shitshow IMO

>>25852954
Nice goalpost moving you worthless faggot.

>>25852943
Australian isn't a race, retard

>>25852707
Green Lamy is okay. Any variant of Lamy can't be too bad. Sana's downfall has shocked a lot of people who remembered the Council history. It's kinda sad to see Council like this, I waited for long time for Council to rise, but it didn't.

>>25852963
>I saw a lot of potential from the get go
When she was already interacting with chat on her debut, actually picking out comments and responding to them, I knew she'd be one of the good ones.

>>25852983
Yes it is you double retard

>>25849661
Anon, I literally had watch a homeless man OD and die right next to me while I was pumping gas, I still went to fucking work afterward, people fucking die every god damn day you privileged onions twat

>>25852895

>>25852943
>Bae's sister brought some cats for dinner
How thoughtful.

>>25852963
>>25853011
fauna is shit and only cucks like her

>>25853007
It was really cool.
>They would still do frequent 5 man collabs
>Then Sana's dog died and they had to stop
>Then they tried again
>Then Sana back hort and they had to stop
>Now it's just in a perpetual state of nothing because Sana is just never fucking around

This is what pisses me off the most about Sana. And it doesn't even help that mentally she's STILL in debut mode where she hasn't branched the fuck out of the same thing she's somehow pigeonholed herself to after damn near a year

>>25852897
Roommate is being sponsored to attend pixiv drawfest by genshin.

>>25852812
Cover always surprises me with their incompetence, again and again
On the other hand, it's not easy to recruit a worse gen than a lazy council + Sana

>>25852696
>>25852843
Ina isn't responsible for her lazyness. By all mean, Sana had potential at the beginning.

there is 3-4 different seanigger schizos in here right now
this is pretty wild

If people value hard working holos so much, then why do said "hard workers" have such below average numbers?

for a bunch of dumb faggots in this thread that jerk off about rrats, none of you fuckers even bothered to spend the zero effort required to google her rm.

Let me spoonfeed you, her "friend" from her other other sidejob tried to kill her AND successfully killed himself by crashing the car they were both in because she wasn't into him anymore since he started to transition.

part of the reason her rm went for the job was because she was separating herself from this psycho.

she's also literally has a full time job aside from streaming but unlike ina she's a staff artist and not the head of an entire department

reddit spacing so dumb fucking children can follow along.

>>25852844
LOLLLLLL
Sanalite if you want to whiteknight, at least try and grasp the hololive situation rumao

>>25853062
Kek. No wonder Bae sounded so excited in that stream.

>>25853019
Yes.

>>25853116
all inhabiting one head.

>>25853116
*people disagree with me so they MUST be SEA!*

Get off your horse high burgerfuck

>>25853019
According to your retarded logic there is no "canadian" in Holo En

>>25853116
I'm keeping them here so other threads can have peace

>>25853137
Omega killed himself? Oh shit

>>25852963
I invested everything into Faunacoin in the beginning. Mainly because of the design, I don't care about ASMRshit. But it was pretty clear that she was the most well-rounded streamer soon after debut. Kronii could have maybe been better if she wasn't a self-sabotaging menhera who hates her avatar.

Mumei though, fuck that whore I will never understand why she's popular. Don't pretend it's because of anything she does because she's tried to change gimmicks for her character (to cover up the lack of personality) like two times now and people pretend it's the greatest thing ever. First it was this I forgo SPAM, then it was the shitty "grotesque" art, now she just pretends to be Gura 2.0. Doesn't matter what she does owlfaggots will pretend it's the greatest thing ever, even when she had the worst pissboring debut in history, hell even before debut they just randomly decided she was "best girl" for literally no actual reason. I fucking hate owlfuckers because they can't even explain why they fucking like her.
If you ask any other fan why they like their oshi they'll give you a bulletpoint list of everything they love about them, if you ask an owlfucker they'll just autismmumble "uhh uhh uhhhh she's cute you know". Fucking spergs literally just DECIDED to "like" her for NO REASON, I FUCKING HATE OWLKEKS

>>25853168
>>25853185
Correct.

>>25853181
oh I'm sorry chang, I forgot you bugmen come here to fling shit as well

>>25853240
Hoo hurt you?

>>25853240
>likes fauna
>hates mumei
peak irony

>>25853285
im not Chinese

>>25853168
Damn, Bae looks like THIS?

>>25852943
>https://files.catbox.moe/sslyu8.mp4
HAKOS BROS?
HOLO BROS?

EXPLAIN

>>25853137
>but unlike ina she's a staff artist and not the head of an entire department
This is difficult to understand. What are you saying? That Ina is the head of an entire department?

>>25853084
I want to close the 4chan tab, lay down on a long sofa, and imagine a timeline where everything goes smoothly for Council

Nah I can't do this, Cover please give me a decent EN3, I will superchat a little ok?

>>25853240
Bro who cares. She's cute and streams enough for a busy college student.

>>25853137
This is legend rare rrat holy shit

>>25849185
>Why do you think the dog died?
Imagine the cadaver of the dog rotting in the middle of a pile of trash next to some half eaten roasted chicken and bottle of piss
God the picture

Somehow from a gacha artist I wouldn't expect less

>>25852071
They both hate their designs/models. That’s why they hide their booba.

>>25853133
numbers = talent x hard work
hard worker = inspiration, decent people
lazy fucks = shitty people, Sana

>>25849094
she's the only good holoEN

>>25853639
>numbers = talent x hard work
This is not true at all.

>>25853671
Literally how?

>>25853639
>numbers = talent x hard work
You couldn't be further from the truth.

SEETHE

>>25853240
I don't understand how anyone could enjoy Fauna and Mumei in the first place; they're two of the most bland, disingenous holos in the company. There's no doubt in my mind that when Kiara was talking about applicants who thought Hololive would be a free ride, she was referring to those two.
"But but cute voice." Vtubers with cute voices are a dime a dozen. We all know why you enjoy them, yet you have the gall to accuse people of being "cuckbeats". The irony!

>>25853695
>>25853723
whats the fornula for numbers then?

your oshi is abusing you
Its time to let go sanalites

>>25853696
she's nice and comfy and has good taste in games

>>25853744
> I don't understand how anyone could enjoy Fauna and Mumei in the first place; they're two of the most bland
They have something in common. And some people like it. It's a niche taste

>>25851405
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm sanabros im not feeling so good

>>25853802
>Ina
>Fauna
>Ame

>>25852963
> people were unnecessarily harsh on fauna's debut

She has the worst possible roommate baggage out of anyone in the company. The drama will haunt her until she graduates. I’d say it was justified. I hope Cover learns to take this into account or have it be a requirement to nuke all evidence of previous identities on the Internet.

>>25849094
Chinese don't actually understand the concept of shame.

>>25853137
I don't have an ogey big enough for this one
>omegay tried to kill himself AND Sana
Holy based maybe we were wrong about him

>>25851405
how many views does she get on streams? I don't watch Sana but I might actually watch this channel if the streams have low views and a slow chat

>>25853854
nta but Ina and Fauna are good, Ame is too annoying to be "comfy"

>>25853744
>it's a seething cuckbeat
Can't make this shit up

>>25853854
Agree on Fauna and Ame. But Ina puts me to sleep, regardless of the game.

>>25853854
Ina and Fauna feel fake, and Ame isn't even nice or comfy
I do watch Ina's art streams though.

>>25853802
>Nintenshit 24/7
>good taste in games
Can't make this shit up

>>25853744
COVER took Mumei only because of her roommate's OC being a Gura copycat along w the voice, can't wait for the next Gura clone. For Fauna, they got a lot of money off Lamy so they decided to pull another GFE

>>25853961
nta, but looks like you're the one seething here

>>25853137
I googled her RM a lot and didn't find anything about it, the dead "friend" I heard before but never saw any confirmation.

>>25854027
>For Fauna, they got a lot of money off Lamy so they decided to pull another GFE
They obviously didn't look through her social media if that's the case kek

>roommate talking about how happy she is about her baby
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>25853882
S-Sana is chinese?

>>25853854
Ina is not as entertaining as the other two and barely streams now.

>>25849727
I'm gonna shit on Sana any day of the week cause she deserves it. Irys just triggered some larpers cause irystoracts literally can't stop replying to bait

>>25854132
>Ina is not as entertaining as Ame, the most boring vtuber in all of EN
what a take, anon

>>25854129
There are 5 Asians in HoloEN.

Look on the bright side, at least Hololive will need to hire talents that actually give two fucks about streaming and aren't just using nepotism to get a massive paycheck for no work the next time around.

>>25851941
You do know that vtubing IS the side job for most of them, right?

>>25854113
Baby in this case means her gacha children

>>25854225
yeah because they hate vtubing. Some 2views and small corpos are full time streamers, if they can do it hololive girls can definitely do it. They just don't want to stream.

>>25853983
Ina sometimes feels natural, occasionally feel like putting up an act. Fauna try too hard to sound cute, I think if she act more naturally, she could be quite cute. Ame still has that awkwardness, she used to be far more natural and enthusiastic.

>>25854012
Please understand, they are Sanalites

>>25854225
>Steal the dream job of thousands more talented and entertaining indies for a half-assed side hustle
Genuinely how the fuck can anybody be okay with this

>>25854348
>if they can do it hololive girls can definitely do it
Hololive is quite a demanding corpo to be in. They have lots of meetings and shit. Do you have any idea what Japanese companies are like? They gather the entire workforce just to decide if someone should be allowed to print a document.

>>25853823
hmmm theyre in to ntr?

>>25854213
Has anyone managed to not get doxxed somehow? Is it even possible these days?

>>25854436
most small corpos are also japanese companies anon

>>25854348
EN was a mistake, most western women are entitled to views and donations without putting in even the bare minimum effort
>inb4 Ayame
She's the outlier, not the norm

>>25854434
Vtubing is always a side-hustle, you basement dweller. It wasn't until EN vtubers did people think of it as a "full time job" lol.

>>25854474
They are wh*te

>>25854222
>at least Hololive will need to hire talents that actually give two fucks about streaming
How the fuck do you guarantee that? I hope Cover will enforce minimum streaming hours in future contract. Sana is the biggest scam

>>25854479
All of those 5 are easy to work out just by listening to the shit they say about their childhood, current lifestyle/living condition and obviously their ability to talk Japanese/Korean/Chinese without sounding retarded like Mori. The doxxing just underlined people's assumptions but nothing was gained from it and never is.

>>25854436
>hololive is quite a demanding corpo to be in
>they have lots of meetings and shit
Meanwhile several holojp do consistent daily long streams even thought "they have lots of meetings and shit"
Meanwhile Koyori exists

>>25853367
She specifically hid that she speaks chinese/cantonese on her debut
It's not even just a hololive thing, her previous life, she specifically larped as a white australian aristocrat

>>25854554
Being a vtuber for a company where you're guaranteed to make a 6 figure income just for existing is an entirely different scenario than being an indie as a side hustle

>>25854222
no anon, people who get into hololive do love streaming. They just hate streaming to hololive fans. Streaming isn't fun when you have 5k+ people on your chat so you can't recognize the regulars or read most messages and even if you can it's just a shitty meme spam.

>>25854436
>hololive
I doubt the second class slaves that are EN tubers are even allowed to be in a vicinity of a meeting room. I bet they only allow IRyS there to make fun of her

>>25851405
How long before the bulk of Sanalites find this and blow up the channel?

>>25854741
suffering from success

>>25854679
You literally picked the biggest outlier. You're technically correct, but it's a pointless comparison. She isn't a professional in anything. Streaming is 100% her life. She even said she's very shy and introverted irl but streaming allows her behave like an extrovert which is a nice change of pace for her. She craves it.

>>25854729
HoloJP and Niji(main branch) all treat it like a side hustle. Korone being one of the more popular ones for example still had a day job for the longest, she still does her own stuff throughout the day before and after she streams even during long streams. It's a side-hustle.

>>25854434
Sanalites.

>>25849219
Nonoah

Cover doesn't give a shit if Sana actually streams, they hired her to force her to draw shit for then for free.

>>25854436
>Hololive is quite a demanding corpo
Sana: Pardun?

>>25854896
*draws child-level art for their merch in 10 minutes on her iPad*

>>25853020
The homeless was not your friend. It is completely different .
Where do you live btw?

>>25853877
people care to much about that shit anyway, sure it's sad if you go parasocial for people like that but I regard all of council as a side show I catch from time to time and when watching them like that who the fuck cares about rm shit as long as they entertain

>>25853771
luck x your agency (or lack thereof)

>>25854067
What's the spoonfeed

>>25854955
Austin, it's not the first OD'ing homeless person I've seen, but the others all got resuscitated, its a problem here

>>25854741
>Streaming isn't fun when you have 5k+ people on your chat
come the fuck on
if a job is all fun who the fuck needs professionalism

>>25854962
>if you go parasocial
stop speaking in twitterniggerese

>>25855038
Fauna was (and possibly still is) in a relationship when she applied. She was too retarded to mask everything up when she applied to Hololive and only did it when she got the confirmation.

>>25855088
Basically

>>25849094
How will Nijikeks cope when Sana's original reaches 10 million?

>>25855113
That's hardly the "worst possible baggage". Loads of holos rms have bfs

>>25855080
yes anon that's the point. When streaming becomes a job, it stops being fun and enjoyable, so they stop streaming for fun. Most people only do their jobs because if they didn't they would get fired, but hololive doesn't fire people for not streaming.

>>25854741

The dream is like 1.5k viewers

>>25854841
Which one of these streamers has streamed as little as Sana? At the rate she's going, she's going to do about 120 streams this year. Only serious outliers in 2021 streamed as little as she's streaming in 2022.

>>25849661
>>25849661
When i was 15 my depressive psychotic mom decapitated my cat and threw all my clothes in a trash bad sent it to my father's house because she thought i was ''plotting against her'' by visiting my father house on the weekends and i still went to school 1 hour later like nothing ever happened,i'm living with my father ever since.

>>25851133
There is nothing wrong with nepotism. Gamers is the nepotism gen and it's the best.

>>25855247
the dream is 100 viewers with 10 oil barons

>>25854479
Crypto rugpullers disappear without a trace all the time. I’m sure it can be done.

>>25854985
everything happens for a reason(s), the reasons could be long and complicated, but luck is not part of it

>>25855257
It's worth noting that Sana is an outlier in that she's not only one of the only skilled professionals in the entirety of Hololive, but she's the most active professional. The timing just didn't work out for her like it did with Ina, not that Ina hasn't had deadlines herself.

>>25855247
This is why unironically, the best case scenario for an EN female vtuber is to either make it big enough as an indie to be /lig/ tier, or join n*jiEN. Small enough to have recognizable regulars and a readable chat, but big enough to live comfortably off of a few gachis and ad revenue.

>>25849094
Yes.

>>25855397
if it's true she started a new channel AFTER joining hololive then there's no excuse. she got a once in a lifetime chance and she continues to put it as her lowest priority.

Go on Twitch and go to the VTuber tag. You'll see an army of women who would make being in council their #1 priority. She needs to get fired and replaced by someone who gives a shit

>>25854012
>>Nintenshit 24/7
>>good taste in games
pick both?

>>25855263
That's sad, but not all of us were raised by psychos, people with nice childhoods are more sensitive and delicate to the loss of a companion.

>>25855500
She will literally never be fired because it costs them literally nothing to keep her in. They would not replace her either. All it would do is bring bad PR when you have people like shion, ayame and aqua with no real health excuse just not streaming because they don't feel like it. And while they used to be streamer powerhouses back in the day the new EOP audiences don't give a fuck and would riot

>>25855500
Most 2views barely stream, the average HoloEN works 10 times harder than the average 2view.

>>25855500
She did give a shit at the start. Hololive saw no signs that things were going to turn out this way. Sana looked like a great pick during the first month. She also made that new channel because it's part of her side job to contribute to an event. She has 2 other channels that are still up (one on YouTube and one on Twitch) that were pre-Hololive. She's only streamed on this new one because of the event.

>>25854113
>pako papa is her actual father
retard

>>25855566
Cover still gives a salary but the backlash to fire her would be a shot in the foot

>>25854474
I love NTR.

>>25855500
>if it's true she started a new channel AFTER joining hololive
So like many of the other talents? Including current ones who WENT BACK to channels before joining Hololive? This isn't the defense you think it is.

>>25855216
Cover didn't choose the right talents.
People who is suitable for streaming career
1) People who love to stream under professional setting (born stage performers who can't live without spotlight/attention)

2) People with professional work ethics.

I do agree applicants can act nice in interview and become a lazybone afterwards (the infamous Sana scam). Cover should add some new rules in contract.

It wouldn't surprise me if Cover knew in advance that Sana wouldn't stream as much as is stipulated in the audition guidelines. Maybe they just knew EN viewers would be more complacent. Are we the plebs?

>>25853854
>>25853915
>>25853978
>>25854132
The only explanation I can think of for why someone would like Fauna is because they've never interacted with white women before. She's generic as fuck.

>>25855180
It’s not only that. I won’t go into details, but she was a drama-laden cunt.

>>25855314
nepo + ina = bad

>>25854802
Probably about a week.

>>25855801
I like her because she's a shameless chumbud, honestly

>>25855584
lol you need to see 2views who streamed all day long, but with zero views

>>25853744
Literally wrong on all levels. Fauna is a good gamer, she can be pretty funny too. She was putting out kino streams literally from the very start. If you watched her play Spore you would know about it. Her Skyrim streams are also hilarious and cute.
Mumei was boring as shit in the beginning but she found her niche. I dont know if you noticed, but she literally has a bunch of chatting streams where she doesnt have to rely on gameplay to be entertaining.
And the word "disingenous" being throw around this board literally doesnt mean shit anymore. It all boils down to "I dont like the way she talks , she sounds fake" and then you proceed to build up headcanon about them only based on that.

>>25849094
spine hort pls understand

>>25855694
please tell me this is a real clip

>>25855912
Yeah, how many days though? I bet they tried it desperately once and then they quit.

>>25852943
Huh, she sounds cute on her native language.

>>25855800
> It wouldn't surprise me if Cover knew in advance that Sana wouldn't stream as much as is stipulated in the audition guidelines.
Yagoo is literally spitting blood right now

>>25853137
You know what bugs me, I google all this shit and I find NONE of it. I find absolutely nothing about any of these rats bar the stuff I know for sure about some vtubers and their old youtube accounts
What the fuck are the search terms I'm even supposed to search for and who the fuck is omega.
Bonus info, I do not take part in opinions or comments about RRATS I don't know anything about, so I don't talk shit about sana etc

>>25853137
>since he started to transition.
What is it about Aussies being literally mentally ill? I have a friend from Sydney who's friend started to transition and literally lost his mind from all the shit that he was taking so he ended up attacking someone with an axe and now he is in prison. Troons be wildin' yo.

>>25855566

It costs them their brand. The hololive brand has been watered down from being the biggest name in vtubing to having a bunch of half assed vtweeters who aren't interested in streaming.

When you sign up for hololive, you agree to put out content at least three times a week. Sana hasn't come close to that. Bending the rules for someone like IRyS or Mori makes a little bit of sense since music is harder to put out than just streaming Kirby. But Sana has put out one single and no covers in her first year. She's not busy working on music. She's busy helping her roommate's career

>>25855636

>She did give a shit at the start.

This. Something really wrong must have happened after the “fuck you” episode. Things have never been the same ever since.

>>25855801
Forget roomate, I dont know, I dont care.

Then you are saying that women irl are sweet no swearing , funny, laidback, well endowed up and down, modest, intelligent ,not a quitter, with good intentions female humans??

Let me laugh at you for the notion that western women are like that. Seriously wtf is that notion.

>>25851133
I'd still fuck Ina. Hopefully with Omegatranny watching.

>>25855800
If Ayame can exist, Cover LITERALLY cannot make exceptions anywhere else because that is actually breaking employment laws in Japan.
>>25856058
>It costs them their brand
Hololive as a brand is literally stronger than its ever been thanks to the plague buff.

>>25856058
>It costs them their brand. The hololive brand has been watered down from being the biggest name in vtubing to having a bunch of half assed vtweeters who aren't interested in streaming.
This. And the lazy HoloEN schedule is self-sabotaging the EN market for Cover.

>>25853240
>Not allowed to like a vtuber because you think she's cute and acts cute
>Has to have some sort of autistic reasoning.
You're the type of fucking retard that thinks people fall in love for a logical and defined REASON aren't you

At this point it's the sanalites who deserve to be made fun of. Not sana. Most cucked fanbase in EN

2views either don't stream much or they are quiet. There isn't a single unsuccessful talkative indie that streams a lot

>>25856067
> Something really wrong must have happened after the “fuck you” episode. Things have never been the same ever since.
I do agree with this. But can we forgive Sana if she keeps doing this no dog back hort gimmick forever?

>>25856208
Sana = smart scammer
Sanalite = dumb whiteknight

know the difference.

>>25856048
>What the fuck are the search terms I'm even supposed to search for and who the fuck is omega.
You need to go back sweetie. The fact that you dont know who Omega is means that you are a newfag that just got into hololive yesterday.

>>25856214
define 2view

>>25856113
Fauna swears, her "sweetness" is fake along with most of her personality in general, she's not funny, she's a vegan stick, and she is only in it for the money which is why she does whorish asmr shit.

Goddamn you are pathetic.

Fauna's theme song: https://youtu.be/TSKizLRFbTo

>>25856014
Aye https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PANmw-yCVRQ

>>25856173
No no, that guy makes a good point. All 50+ holos look cute and act cute. So why pick THIS one? I'll simplify it for you: Why ought one watch Mumei instead of Kanata?

>>25851133
Based
Ina needs correction

>>25850920
> she has thick Aussie blood
She literally doesn't have any.

>>25853137
Omega's dead?! Praise YAGOO!

Sana not streaming is one thing. Sana not streaming causing Council unable to unite and lose motivation is ONE FUCKING BIG SIN. The Council always have to wait for Sana to come back, until they finally realized Sana is beyond helpless. At this point Council is too tired and fed up.

>>25849094
Who keeps making these threads? I feel like it's some salty small corpo that's unhappy about not making it past auditions.

>>25856048
>You know what bugs me, I google all this shit and I find NONE of it.
You're in a schizoid thread.

>>25856493
Ah yes, you cant have a negative opinion about any streamer ever, otherwise you are just a "seething jealous 2view".
Go back to your hugbox site faggot.

>>25849094
>>rob thousands of indies of their dream job
This is unironically the most based thing she has ever done.

>>25856493
It's the same person as the Rosemi Lovelock schizo anti. They're just trying to rile up corpo fanbases in general.

>>25856557
go bakc to your discord. This board is for fans, not antis.

Stop being tsundere, Fulgur.

>>25856398
You prefer the aesthetics
You prefer the owl motif
You like the sweetness and psychopathy mixed together
You like shit like the forgor memes
You like listening to her voice
You like listening to English speaking vtubers etc

>>25856635
Are you saying people would just shitpost with no ulterior motive other than simply to bring down the quality of discussion of on the board?

>>25856398
> Why ought one watch Mumei instead of Kanata?
Kanata is inexperienced, Mumei is experienced.

>>25856493
Everyone who watches indies dreams their oshi will one day make it big. Every new Hololive gen is a chance for that fantasy to happen. Now imagine a new gen comes out and it's largely the worst picks possible. One of them (who presumably only got in because she's friends with Ina) literally doesn't seem to care or stream at all, whereas (You)r favorite indie/small corpo would've made the most out of that life-changing opportunity. That's where the indignation, seething and frustration comes from.

>>25856549
I am, but any rrat type threads always are so I am prepared.
>>25856371
Dont call me sweetie you fucking larper pretending to be from plebbit
I was here shitposting about kizuna ai on jp and some other boards back in 2016 during the cringe american ruining the site election shit
I am not a newfag because I don't know or follow some irrelevant internet character from the semi modern age that no one cares about.
When it comes to hololive specifically I was here before holoEn debut and watch guras first stream live although that doesnt mean much since it was only 2 years ago

>>25856468
Council replaced Sana with Gura and Irys

>>25856666
generals are for actual fans. everything else is free game. also, i can be a fan of 10 people but if i say anything negative about even ONE, im somehow an anti from some faggy discord clique? do you realise that this board is the only place where people can criticize vtubers openly and have every right to do so? but like i said, go back to your hugbox leddit you retard.

>>25856868
bruh lmao

>>25856804
And some anons above told me not to hate Ina, my god

>>25856868
OMEGA was everywhere during the councils debut and the board posted about that tranny ad nauseam before he retired. Take that /vt/ credibility and shove it up your ass if you are that retarded to not know who Omega is after you supposedly "tried to google it".

>>25849094
Laziness will never be respected, people were tolerant as fuck for her when the dog shit happened but instead of coming back after mourning she shits the bed completely, ghosts her fanbase and everyone else, gives some half assed excuses months later and generally does jack shit for anything but her roommate while pissing on the reputation prior generations built up by being absolute work horses. She was offered a well made bed and instead of being thankful for the chance she decides to take a giant rancid dump in it, I fucking hate this Aussie bitch so much

>>25857175
It's okay. You can try auditioning again in 3 months.

>>25852943
I'd fuck a chinese rrat

I think, we're currently in the doubting/seething phase. We still give benefit of doubt to Sana and still think Sana could redeem herself. After a year or two, we will completely give up on her, she will just be another Ayame. Most EN fans will not hate Sana anymore, maybe.

>>25857354
Ayame streamed a lot before her breaks and contributed a fuckton to build up hololive into what it is today. She has credibility while Sana has absolutely none.

>>25857298
Nigga who the fuck tolerates someone who's new to the job and then instantly takes off MONTHS due to a plethora of bullshit reasons? It's straight up scam and gets you rightfully fired.

>>25849094
Well OP did you know everbody in council not named Haykos Baelz was a nepo hire? Fauna Mumei Sana Kroni all them were nepo hires recommended by gura and amelia. Even irys who doesn't have a gen mate made it through hardwork like baelz did.

>>25856988
>holy shit here's a model, they are gonna be in hololive
>never hear from them again
>If you don't know who that is you're retarded!
Literally you are a monkey on a keyboard
Talking about a vtuber more irrelevant than fucking tranny artemis lmao

>>25857615
Gura has good taste if she dragged in Fauna.

>>25857615
Let me add in sana was a ina nepo hire.

>>25857615
>Fauna Mumei Sana Kroni all them were nepo hires recommended by gura and amelia.

Do you have any evidence for this at all?

>>25857741
the voices in my head

Sanallites continue enabling her

>>25857833
based.

Nepotism hires aren't inherently a bad thing. Doesn't it make it easier to get along compared to a generation of five total strangers?

>>25857905
Except Sana has barely interacted with her own gen, makes collabs awkward, and doesn't even stream with Ina.

>>25857615
Does "nepotism" just mean having any prior knowledge of a person's existence before conducting the job interview now?

>>25857615
>the only bad nepo hire was Sana
IF this WAS true then Ame and Gura should recruit since Fauna Mumei and Kronii are 9-10k streamers.
>Mumei was an unkown vtuber with only 1 million sub YT channel
Her old acct still has more subs than her mumei one....

>>25855694
makes sense since youre a whocuck

>>25856868
>dude i started using this site in 2016 im an oldfag!!

>>25858333
>Her old acct still has more subs than her mumei one....
Council got kneecapped hard on debut. Susan removed like 200k+ subs from their account over the course of a few days and even now they regularly get culled and only don't go into the negatives because people are subbing enough to offset it. And unlike HoloX, they didn't ask on twitter and on stream for people to resub. They stayed quiet. It's really sad.

>>25856666
>for fans
go back to +eddit - where you cant say anything negative about them faggot

>>25858688
>debut cull
true.
>regularly get culled afterwards
this sounds like cope to me
i would like to believe it though

It really is about the brand name isn't it.
A person that barely streams SOMEHOW has unironic defenders simply because she's part of Hololive.
Part of me wants to watch just to listen to the totsu and everyone having to pretend what an amazing genmate she is.

>>25859952
that will be funny, can't wait for every single one to repeat "sana big" or "wacky horse face" lmao

>>25852124
A pointer at least please

>>25859952
>h-heh...sana....s-sana is beeg
>haha, bread
>neighbula...
>...
>beeg space baby

>>25860521
this but unironically

>>25860521
>sans is beeg
Is that literally the only meme she’s come up with in her entire time with Hololive? That’s genuinely kind of sad.

>>25860521
It's painful seeing her stuck in debut mode.

>>25860521
>Nobody in council can even make another joke with Sana because she never streams and they don't speak to her because no more full gen collabs

>has brown skin
>is incapable of being a good employee and team member
Racism once again giving me an accurate model of reality

Thanks Ina..

>>25850628
Anon, you don't have to be Indonesian to realize that taking a month break to mourn a pet is a bit stupid

>>25858629
No. I didn't start using this site in 2016. I started using this site in 2008 to talk about halo 3
I started the VTUBER shit in 2016

>>25853629
Sana doesn't hide her booba though

I'm surprised people bring up the dog more than the back shit. She explicitly said she told the rest of council to not mention it and never provided updates, not even for members

Seethe more

>>25861072
is 2008 "oldfag" now?
t. 2012fag

>>25861073
>the few times she has streamed she is not only wearing the kimono, but also very zoomed in on her head
Uh huh

>>25861126
Friendly reminder that you lost Holoscopes thanks to Sana's weak self-esteem.

>>25859256
>i would like to believe it though
Anon have you noticed EVERYONE'S subs, outside of ID3, have drastically slowed down? It's not just Council, it's literally all of Holo except for some fucking reason ID3

>>25861186

>>25861231
Horoscopes was a terrible idea for numbers when 90% of your audience is male.
If you want to do them, don't expect good numbers on them. Do them for fun.

>>25861426
apparently people were bitching at her because horoscopes are a sham wah wah

Like imagine being so thin skinned some nutjobs cause you to stop doing them

>>25861426
>Do them for fun.
That's why Sana did them. And guess what? She stopped because a vocal minority took them too seriously.

>>25861426
She WAS doing them for fun, but some people went "fuck you, teehee" back. She couldn't deal with it.

>>25849094
>irys
>hard work
LMAO