/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>25845667
no they aren't, and if they are they are using a completely different name

OH NO NO NO WATCH OUT HERE COMES THE ELITE SHOCK TROOPS OF HLG

>>25845092
Extremely late cross-thread reply to note that there's actually more gotchas with Hololive music rights than you'd think
For example, Cover doesn't own the sync rights to Kirameki Rider of all things, and Suisei's track SelfishDazzling belongs to Sega

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>124,349: Iroha (Hololive)
>53,614: ROF-MAO (Nijisanji)
>39,732: Miko (Hololive)
>39,436: Subaru (Hololive)
>31,210: Chloe (Hololive)
>28,189: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>19,477: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>19,117: Nose (VSPO)
>16,978: Hal (Neo Porte)
>16,132: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>15,465: Kiara (Hololive)
>15,361: Mio (Hololive)
>14,037: Gatchman (Indie)
>13,293: Laplus (Hololive)
>12,451: Kanata (Hololive)
>12,248: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,968: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,542: Yang (Nijisanji)
>11,494: Nazuna Kaga (VSPO)
>11,237: Lui (Hololive)
>10,935: Noel (Hololive)
>10,561: Kronii (Hololive)

I don't get why nijiniggers rather watch other fags but not Finana
She's literally the best nijien

Suisei

>>25845742
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349 - 3D debut

>PER COMPANY
5x: Nijisanji
4x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
5x: Salome
1x: Haachama, Iroha, Mio, Watame

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
107x: Hololive
44x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha
9x: Salome
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>25845742
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Aki (Hololive) - 72,251
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696
3) Fubuki (Hololive) - 48,485
4) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 56,607
5) Miko (Hololive) - 98,858
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701
8) Miko (Hololive) - 71,446
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349

>PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Miko
1x: Aki, Haachama, Fubuki, Kuzuha, Mio Watame, Iroha

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
110x: Hololive
40x: Nijisanji
7x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
15x: Miko
12x: Kuzuha
7x: Subaru, Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Salome, Suisei, Toya, Mio
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Aki, Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>25845740
>Suisei's track SelfishDazzling belongs to Sega
No, I don't think so. Sega only put it in their game and did a short MV. They went to Suisei for the track, not the other way around.

>>25845719
why does ike get garbage number on chink time?

>>25845855
Cover has a list of music where they're not the rights holder, and it's on there
If you're curious:
>Tokino Sora/Dreaming!(All Track)
>Tokino Sora/My Loving(All Track)
>Tokino Sora/ON STAGE!(All Track)
>hololive IDOL PROJECT/Kirameki Rider
>Sakura Miko&Houshou Marine&AZKi/POPPIN’ KISS(All Track)
>Minato Aqua・Oozora Subaru・Usada Pekora/Hacha-Mecha Miracle
>Mori Calliope/Ibasho
>Minato Aqua/KAISOU RESSHA
>Hoshimachi Suisei/SelfishDazzling
>Kaikasengen

>>25845888
nijien male is reclining
but people will still click their big streams tho...

More clip numbers with more clip numbers. Regex is fixed, so todays numbers are slightly inflated. Clip count is up to 428k.

1 Hyakumantenbara Salome 2605892
2 Kazama Iroha 1395924
3 Gawr Gura 1103122
4 Sakura Miko 874387
5 Kobo Kanaeru 576899
6 Hololive VTuber Group 544514
7 Kanae 515895
8 Amane Kanata 514114
9 La+ Darknesss 513796
10 Ouro Kronii 510665
11 Kuzuha 468847
12 Sakamata Chloe 464409
13 Houshou Marine 420364
14 Oozora Subaru 412490
15 Usada Pekora 403826
16 Watson Amelia 364407
17 Shirogane Noel 357832
18 Takanashi Kiara 337796
19 Mori Calliope 333744
20 Ratna Petit 333053
21 Tokoyami Towa 332144
22 Nijisanji 296418
23 Lauren Iroas 291488
24 Shishiro Botan 283954
25 Higuchi Kaede 281662
26 Inugami Korone 274308
27 Murasaki Shion 269577
28 Nakiri Ayame 261426
29 Vestia Zeta 231320
30 Takane Lui 230606
31 Hakui Koyori 229733
32 Ninomae Ina’nis 227940
33 Hakos Baelz 225665
34 Yukihana Lamy 225563
35 Ceres Fauna 222551
36 Himemori Luna 197267
37 IRyS 196620
38 Mysta Rias 196257
39 Ike Eveland 193712
40 Ibrahim 187371
41 Vox Akuma 185278
42 Kenmochi Toya 179532
43 Shiranui Flare 178127
44 Momosuzu Nene 177539
45 Hoshimachi Suisei 174654
46 Nanashi Mumei 174198
47 Tsunomaki Watame 170044
48 Nekomata Okayu 167735
49 Shirakami Fubuki 164621
50 Ange Katrina 161662

Iroha's 3D generated a lot of clips for her, netting her 2nd. Gura's fish stream (not maneater) also is a clip generator, but otherwise the Gura/Kobo/Miko combo rounds out the top 5. Kanata at 8th is also surprising, her meat beating stream generated a lot of clips (compared to 26,27,25,12).Company split is 15.3M and 10.8M for HL and NJ. Salome generally makes up around 15% to 25% of all of nijisanji's secondary viewership within this sample size, which you can interpret however you want.

>>25845742
Gura would have beat them.

>>25845891
Also interesting to note Suisei's Pieces isn't on there despite being owned by Bilibili, presumably because they're pretending it never happened

>>25845891
Is there a list of which songs belong to the talents themselves? Since i heard that someone was thinking of selling her rights to an original to Cover i have been curious about how common it is.

https://twitter.com/smashcon/status/1534777400705400832

CCV to VoD conversion are all over the place lately. Even among EN they have very different verification rate.

oh i missed roboco's outfit i thought it was later, seems like to was around 10K?

>>25845888
cause he's Sweedish, not British.

>>25845891
>Kirameki Rider
How do they not own one of their core idol songs? It's like their second anthem.

>>25845971
it's an outfit update, not a new outfit

>>25845951
That could be attributed to churn, anon. The numbers are not so significantly apart that their values would not change.

>>25845948
nijien don't look

>>25846029
ah

>>25845971
Was just updates to her model (mostly new eyes), so you didn't miss much.

>>25845996
I keep forgetting that NijiEN actually got a swede for god knows what reason in their rooster.

>>25845634
Lol pretty sure those are old bollywood actress names so they're probably aliases. It's like naming yourself "Sylvestor Stallone" or something.

>>25845634
>Madhu gudi
The bollywood and FilterCopy actress?

https://jp.linkedin.com/in/madhu-gudi-30138a48
Oh my god, it actually is her! What the fuck?

>>25845948
Couldn't they have send someone even less relevant?

>>25846084
So it begins...

>>25846065
the second one is, the first one has an actual linked in profile

>>25846084
Eroge?

>>25846093
nijiseethe

>>25846093
Australian vtubers at an Australian con seems pretty relevant to me.

>>25846084
im buying a twitch just to play it

>>25846065
at least Ichikara gave these Indians a job, a right thing to do imo

>>25845944
Not in a convenient public form, since they'll have given Cover a license to redistribute and sublicense them anyway

>>25845997
They were small enough when it released that they probably had to give up some portion of the rights to someone involved in its production or distribution to make it happen at all
They're listed as the copyright holder, so it's just the sync rights they don't have for some reason

>>25846116
I assume this is a collector's edition, this will probably sell out since it's cheap.

>>25846168
why would you pick the worst version?

Slowly but surely climbing up to 20 million
Can’t stop won’t stop

>>25846116
https://twitter.com/nobeta_staff_en/status/1534780949199609856?

Anime Expo is going to take place in less than a month and we still haven't heard anything from Hololive. For fuck's sake, the booth map has been released already and everyone can see that Hololive is there, why are they so slow?

>>25846116
I want FBK’s

>>25846092
she was noor

>>25846242
>>25846084
Any other media that these girls are on I'll be buying, which reminds me that I also need to buy "Evil God Korone"

>>25846290
why haven't you already bought it, it's like five dollars

>>25846194
i dont have a ps4

>>25846178
> sync rights
wait so that means they can't use it for MVs or other promotion?
I wonder if that's why they switched to Prism Melody as the theme for Holofes.
I like it better though.

>>25846263
>Announcing anything before EN3

>>25846305
so buy a ps4 instead? pick up a cheap used one

>>25846302
I keep forgetting since I just put it on my wishlist, I'll be correcting that now anon

>>25846330
I would assume they have a perpetual license themselves (it would be ridiculous if they didn't) but can't license it to other people

>>25846342
but i want a ps5

What the fuck just happened to Koyori's stream, it died for a second and when it came back she had 3k extra viewers, which are now dropping fast.

koyori's stream straight up went offline for 3 seconds before Z'ing

>>25846390
The Z

>>25846330
They can, but there's probably some hoops they need to jump through in order to do so

>>25846390
Z bug, it happened to Subaru's stream too

THE Z

>>25846278
We all do

>>25846288
> checked the voices
Holy fuck...
Guess that makes sense. I wonder if she moved to Japan to join EN management or if they still kept her as a remote manager only.

>>25845891
huh, I didn't know

It’s so weird hearing Luna talk normally and not in her character voice. It’s like a completely different person

>>25846390
It was lag on YT's side, so almost certainly wigging out (Z)

>>25846036
What's the most updated theory about viewer churn now?

Subaru and Koyori simul-Z

>>25846452
Impossible to know without having access to analytics to show AVERAGE WATCHED TIME PER VIEWER, aka the magic number that determines algo weight and how much you get paid out via YT premium.

>>25845944
>>25845891
Red Heart, Infinity, and Weather Hackers are some examples i know where the rights are completely on the producers themselves, which explains why they don't appear on Spotify

>>25846465
> at the same fucking time
Yeah this + some local lagging during certain Zs leads me to think this is some fuckery on Youtube's server side.

>>25846465
how does this shit work? why does ars stream not affected? they're in the same region.

>>25846168
>a twitch

>>25846465
Z Moves

>>25846501
is it a region thing and not just something on youtube's end fucking up randomly?

What are the implications of the Z syndrome?

>>25846501
nobody knows unless you happen to be one of the pajeets working at youtube

Koyori was at stable 22k, stream went offline, shot up to 25k, slowly dropped all the way down to 19k and then shot up at 22k again. Very nice Susan

>>25846501
Anon, node fuckery on YT's end can mean that even if you live beside someone, if their traffic goes to a different node you could be unaffected whilst they get hit.

>>25845697
>>25846092

>>25846531
not much right now because so far none of the Zs have been large enough to affect positions on the podium

>>25846531
Zs + raids make peak ccv even more worthless than before

>>25846531
weirdass peaks, that's all.
and youtube's server coding being shit, as always.

>>25846533
We don't know exactly how it works, but it must be region related to some degree because we have seen some streamings Zting at the same times, from Hololive, Nijisanji, VSPO, indies and even from different companies at the same time, but never from an EN and a JP at the same time

THE Z

>>25846465
Starting to look like a synch lag with no error correction or maybe the error is there, but what we're looking at is actually numbers that are "less culled" for a short time until the system catches up?

>>25846541
That’s a very verbose way to say
>Koyori zed

>>25846609
More like people are being counted twice or thrice because of some server falling out of sync and that being slowly corrected

>>25846632
makes sense.

can't someone just @ youtube on twitter with a graph asking what's up?

>Someone on /#/ is willing to report Uki
>NO ONE is willing to report Salome
My fucking sides.

>>25846655
they could but nobody gives enough of a shit about this to hassle youtube over it

>>25846670
QUICK PRETEND TO BE SURPRISED

>>25846670
i love seeing them move around in 3d. looking forward to all of holox

>>25846669
That's because the bot stuff is schizo rambling, whereas you could definitively prove copyright infringement by looking at the stream for 5 seconds
In both cases you'd be a narc though

>>25846670
TUMMY SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX!!!!

>>25846609
my current hypothesis is that the peak is basically counting all the tabbed-out viewers
this is based on observation of several apex streams that had Zs. the peak of the Z never exceed the peak of previous round where we can assume everyone tabbed-in for the final ring

25k at the reveal is pretty good for Koyori.

>>25846670
Why can't the shirt be shorter?

>>25846669
Salome hasn't infringed copyright, there's nothing to report.

>3 3D debuts in 8 days
ACCELERATE

>>25846722
i'm willing to be a narc if it gets a male in trouble

>>25846746
newfag...

>>25846734
thankfully no mega corporation was shizo enough to copyright anime archetypes yet. imagine having to go beg some corpo just to have a tsundere in your show

>>25846433
>>25846092
Damn, she's got real camera presents.

They were wasting her streaming under a model, especially with that rigging.

>>25846731
it's actually like that on the design, fan artists take a lot of liberties with both how short her shirt is and how huge her tits are

>>25846669
Say what you want about numbers but at least we are smart enough not to break containment unless there's some actual proof that isn't schizo ramblings

>>25846724
Apex... hmm...
Is there a version of this for Karaokes?

>>25846767
Gen 4 and 5 were all once a week, before that they were even more spread out

>>25846722
>>25846734
>>25846813
So do we all believe she isn't botted anymore despite whatever evidence /#/ has gathered or what? Sorry I took a small break after her 1m because I wanted to dodge people actively falseflagging as either side.

>Holo announces something
>Chat goes to light speed and crashes my browser
Literally every time, fucking come on Susan

>>25846897
oh I definitely believe that she's botted, I'm just not stupid enough to rave about it on twitter without proof

>>25846897
Circumstantial, sadly.

>>25846864
nothing i've seen so far. although i mostly was looking for the real high 2k+ spikes

>>25846897
There can be no hard evidence for botting retardchama.

>>25846897
>evidence /#/ has gathered
[citation needed]

>>25846746
I’m almost positive they’re pushing them out so they don’t have distractions from other possible events/big announcements. Like I don’t even think it’s schizo talk to say that EN3 should be right around the corner at this point. It’s closing in on 10 months now since council, that’s certainly enough time to put out a gen.

But aside from that, you might have other announcements to make that includes them like Bloom or some shit

>>25846899
It's the clap emotes spam.

Always be ready and hide chat when it's coming.

Same for the end of songs.

>>25846897
she was never botted

>>25846897
I am still suspicious of her numbers. But there is nothing provable or actionable

>>25846897
Oh, I believe there's some numbers fuckery, it's just that unique chatters isn't that good of an evidence, that's why YT needs to implement viewers list like on twitch to know if the stream is visited by the same people, no chat, no likes, no interaction every stream. But even then, it's not enough since views is counted with or without an account.

I notice that when something big in Hololive is happening, there was barely any shit-flinging to the other side. But when a big stream from Nijisanji happens, the baits start pouring in. Why is that?

>>25846092
wait a minute... wasn't one of the nijifag /here/ that self-doxxed was a pajeet too?

>>25847052
When salome starts, discordfags comes in. Tonight is good though, PV of holoALT is coming soon.

>>25846897
There is no evidence, the Luxiem graphs weren't hard proof but it's something at least. I've been waiting weeks now for these schizos to post their "proof" but there's still nothing

>>25847052
shitposters using Njisanji against holofags, which happen to be the majority of this board

SUISEI 50K 3 MINUTES IN
>SUISEI 50K 3 MINUTES IN
SUISEI 50K 3 MINUTES IN
>SUISEI 50K 3 MINUTES IN

>>25846670
LICK THE TUMMY LICKY LICKY

>>25846899
meanwhile Salome's 100k ccv chat is as smooth as butter

FUCK YOU SUISEI WITH THAT YAKINIKU SET UP

>>25847113
What's her unique chatter rate? I'm too lazy to dumpster dive.

>>25846670
In my mind's eye I can already see the sleeves forming a venn diagram.

>>25846966
>>25846998
Something something unique chats, high ccv, unexplainable besides bots, etc

Finally the most talented vtuber is back. Fuck those Tails of Arise videos I'm not watching that garbage.

This could have put up a fight if it had been a karaoke instead of this

>>25846507
switch, number rot got me

Any streams tonight that can challenge Salome 71k? Or is she getting gold for tonight?

Suisei 30k get

WONT BEAT SALOME HAHAHAHA

I really need to try grilling wagyu beef in my bucket list

>>25847169
Yes Marine in an hour

>>25847168
I'm too stupid read this graphic.

>>25847168
Someone said during Gura's Fish stream that she had up to 15k unique chatter, which is more than what is shown here for Salome despite Salome getting up to 100k viewers.

>>25847234
still suisei lewds today!

>>25847205
Don't think so. The biggest number from holo today is either suisei or marine.

>>25846897
No streamer in the world can get 90k for Resident Evil 7 8 streams in a row. It's clearly botted and anyone who argues otherwise doesn't understand vtuber CCV and thinks 90k people can just randomly show up if someone gets viral enough

>>25847252
qrd Salome lot of views, not lot of chatters. You can't explain that.

>>25846897
i will die on this hill

>>25847255
Gura had 13k unique chatters, which is absolute insanity for what the stream was ye

>>25847289
I kneel to kpop schizos

>>25846897
No bots. She's an anomaly just like Gura was in 2020.

>>25847169
>singing
>tetris
Anything more? No.

>>25847314
no emoji please

>>25846897
There never were any bots, look at her clip views (>>25845933), look at her twitter engagement, look at her VOD views, look at her smooth as fuck graphs, any botting accusations were always either from falseflagging discord trannies trying to get this thread banned, genuine retards who fell for their bullshit, or brainrotted tribalfags knee deep in cope

>>25847322
>being sexy as fuck

>>25847293
What is the metric for unique chatter? Does one new account mean one unique chat?

>>25847169
Fuck you. Tales is kino.

>>25846669
there is not real proofs of boting
all is speculations and autism

>>25847281
different audience, different stream format and things like that may not scale linearly (for example when you see the chat is too fast you're reluctant to chat)
pic related

>>25847150
cloth physics is hard please understand

>>25847168
I’ve been trying to find a way to explain those numbers besides bots — like Salome opened the nip boomer market who doesnt chat and never watched anything else. But it sounds dumber than bots

>>25847255
you need to factor in stream length and eop audience. 3h stream would usually get you more uniques. and eops tend to comment less per person but more of them make comments during 'funny' moments.
but that gura debut chart is somewhat comparable as she was doing 1hr streams at that time. same with la+ if you want a non-eop uniques buff.

source for the eop generalization is from my research on correlating uniques to approximate ccv during ccvid. picrel

>>25846669
what did this gay boy do?

>>25847281
New viewer segment that hasn't watched vtubers before and isn't used to chatting in youtube livestreams, or isn't even logged in to youtube. Much more plausible than large scale botting.

>>25847361
Her CCV to VoD conversion rates were all over the place.

>return stream
>can't even beat salome
Fucking kek.

>>25847281
Nip tourists aren't particularly inclined to chat while underage chumbuds and kobokeks love to spam useless shit endlessly, this really isn't that hard to understand

>>25846092
Ah fuck, it's one of THOSE.
A self-hating west-worshipping weeb-kpop chimera.
> This person is in NijiEN "management"
At least that explains all the faggot pandering and all the pride tweets from talents.

>>25847361
People here argue that it's a mix of bots and real viewers, 90k ccv is unrealistic. There's at least 40-50k real people and others are farms. She is artificially hyped because of big numbers.

>>25847401
We can always go back to the ole tried and reliable "Japanese people don't engage in any way whatsoever in either chat, views and anything visible but they buy a lot of merch"-cope

>watching suisei while eating bbq cooked food
winning

>>25847436
Tried to shit test fucking DISNEY wrt copyright by purposely leaving his Disney Karaoke archived. See last thread for more details.

>>25847401
Has Salome even managed to farm gachikoi yet? Gachikois are absolutely important if a vtuber wants to succeed.

>>25847436
Sing Disney songs, and want to keep the VOD up until Susan or Disney pick it up.

>>25847401
she's getting whatever Korokoro gets >>25847391

>marine drawing game
yep, salome gold today

>>25846116
I don't hate polka but her design feels out of place unlike FBK and noel

>>25847445
holy kek

>>25846897
I don't think you understand what the argument for botting even is if you can't even ascertain it without asking someone else what you should think.

>>25847436
Pick a fight with Disney over copyright for absolutely no reason.

>>25847445
>Pronouns
>Pride flag
I N T O T H E T R A S H

>>25846670
> Koyo in Hologra
can't wait

>>25847317
Gura opened a new market. That anomaly has an explanation. And her viewers acted like normal. Salome has new market numbers while staying JP and viewers that act differenty

>>25847470
>>25847472
>>25847495
he gay he has more rights than us

>>25847450
You do know that its not easy to get 1M vod views in an hour stream with just 40k-50k ccv..

>>25847361
There's hype, but not enough to justify her numbers. For example Iroha got 120k for her 3D debut and got #1 world trending. Salome hasn't even broken top 5 trending in the world despite getting 100k+ for most of her streams. That's the difference between organic hype and artificial hype

>>25847467
Watching her while waiting for my food to cook is unbearable

>>25847470
not really that bad nowadays since that stream will probably be claimed at worst.
Music labels rarely strikes covers

>>25846897
No obvious signs of botting.
Her numbers are definitely suspect, especially the early streams, but Youtube seems to be pushing her with no culls so the normal cheap chink bots are out of play.

>>25847524
With Salome's newfound EOP audience, she can easily go viral at any time.

>>25847531
rip my friend. its really a whole new experience. smell-a-vision if it was real.

>>25847401
>it sounds dumber than bots
Why?

>>25847560
where?

>>25847391
>>25847438
>>25847444
this is one of the saddest copes I have ever heard

>>25847524
her 1m celebration trended for 6h straight on Twitter, it's in the middle of the day so people can't tweet it at the same time but she got like 100k tweets

>>25847519
It's easy when tourists view big numbers, watch stream, contribute to 1 view then get out. Refresh, you contribute to 1 view again. Stay for the whole duration, you will only contribute to 1 view for example, Ina's streams most of the time since she has a dedicated fanbase who sticks to her streams or Gura, but gura's are mostly vod viewers. It's the reason why Apex streams has much more processed vod views than other streams of the same length and ccv.

>>25847524
Twitter trending is an incredibly nebulous metric based on their algorithms, it isn't at all a flat indicator of how many people are tweeting about something

>>25847573
Anon, there was a channel called OBN that has multiple Salome EN clips with over 100k views each. Some vids were hitting 300k views as well.

>>25847604
Are you retarded? I literally showed you Korotube's numbers there for comparison.
He's using bots too right?

It's SEA time

>>25847443
Looks like hololive is dying for sure.
There are many hololive fans went to salome according to my data.

>>25847498
Oldfags seemed to have loved her, so I guess no one really bothered digging too deep back then.

>>25847604
Fuck off, anons here have shown time and time again that Japanese viewer behaviour is hugely different to that of westerners

>>25847678
It's Nijisanji, what did you expect?

>>25845742
nose...

>>25847660
not the same audience retardchaama

>>25847650
weak.

>>25847629
look at the comments under her Vod, more active than your normal 1m vod from both Nijisanji and Hololive

Koyori number pred?
I say 130k

>>25847718
More than what Hololive can get, there is nothing viral about Hololive these days.

>>25847629
Show me a multiple proof of a 40k-50k ccv stream that gets 1M within 24hrs and ill believe you.

>>25847710
It's nip normies, of course they act similarly

>>25847710
that's literally what I'm saying you stupid piece of shit

>>25847650
Just because its an EOP channel doesnt mean the views are EOP.

>>25847769
so you agree she's botting, good to know

Will suityan get 40k on her date?

>>25847755
>>25847689
>the normies cope again and again
it's all so tiresome

Numbers prediction? anything big from holo tomorrow?
https://twitter.com/midori_2434/status/1535219155095281665

>>25847750
dunno, her ceiling seems to have improved a bit but it still seems awfully low compared to people in a similar spot

>>25847821
>if i keep replying cope to it it stops being true!

>>25847789
>this guy's numbers are legit because he has a different audience
>apply the same argument to Salome
>c-cope
the absolute state of this thread

>>25846330
Doubt that's the reason. It's fairly typical for a big idol concert to get its own theme

>>25847834
Jesus Christ you are the saddest nigger I have ever seen kek. What are you, a buttblasted Council fan? A mindbroken plusmate? How you can even schizo Koyori of all people is impressive

lmao why can't youse just agree to disagree.

>>25847770
most of the comments are in English
Though the videos are really short so their numbers may not mean much

>>25846897
The new cope is that Salome getting such high numbers is actually bad for Nijisanji in some way

>>25847953
>agree to disagree.
>>>/reddit/
>>>/soiland/

>>25847928
i'm actually not that guy, i know who you're talking about, but sadly, that's like the one thing he gets right about her

>>25847881
whatever makes you happy kid

>>25847445

>>25847992
This you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHU-2FMpIlU

>>25848010
>I-i'm not him haha
Kys you pathetic schizo

>>25847445
https://youtu.be/0i4VBhm81UU?t=176

>>25847824
40k tops
sana birthday

>>25847921
Prism melody was released long before Holofes 3 though

>>25847052
because you can't do simple shit like ignore and sage

Didn't you guys say that suisei will get 80k easily?
Also why is koyo's announcement so low comapred to her colleagues? If it wasn't for the Z she'd be barley at 22k

>>25847895
>dramatuber getting big numbers for years
>chuuba comes out right before the IPO shit and after seeing nijien males fishy graphs
>n-no its not the same
truly nijiniggers and specially salomekeks are a joke

Imagine sex with Koyori while she ranks your penis length and girth and other quantifiable values

Koyofag is so fucking insecure holy shit, like oshi like fan I guess.

>>25848132
Koyori is competing with 30k+ shubaluna.

>>25848132
who said that?

>>25848132
For karaoke. Not a zatsu stream.

>>25848132
No, we were saying that about Pekora.
Suisei's break was less traumatic.

>>25848128
How can you ignore it when the schizos are replying to themselves and newfags arent /here/ long enough to spot it

>>25847995
no reddit goes out of their way to prove you wrong nigger.

Number, Suisei is 45.5kg now.

3D Koyo

>>25847689
so you mean to say salome's audience are 90k JP dramafags gotcha

>>25848132
Koyo got 25k way after the Z and she was competing with a 30k stream at the same time.

>>25847477
>Salome has the normie dramafag audience
Believable for one, two, maybe three streams. This fucking long?!

>>25848185
>prove
maybe not the right word here but w/e

>>25848158
post image

Why are these schizos talking about Koyori recently, did she do something? Or are they just mad she is inclining from streaming a lot?

>>25848213
i ran her chat population against korekore, less than 1%

>>25848132
>Didn't you guys say that suisei will get 80k easily?
No Karaoke

>Also why is koyo's announcement so low comapred to her colleagues?
Overlap with Shubaluna

Plus Friday debuff

>>25848048
ok, guess i have to explain, koyo has definitely inclined, her median has gone up by a not insignificant amount, and her morning show is a guaranteed 10k these days, even her floor for sc readings has increased, however, one thing seems to have stuck since her debut and that is her ceiling for events, i'm not blaming her for it, and i'm actually quite frustrated about that because it makes zero sense to me, so everytime something big comes for koyo, i need to temper my expectations or otherwise it breaks my heart a bit

>>25848186
Fat

>>25848169
>>25848171
Cope
>>25848170
>>25848175
Do your archive reps, every single person after the stream was announced said that it'll be an easy 80k, or did she not do a singing stream?

So big hitters of Hololive are starting to come back, as well as the hype from Hololive's multimedia project.
Looks like Anykara's investors might want to tell Riku to further accelerate.

>>25848186
The only relevant numbers so far in this thread

>>25848253
>No Karaoke
Oh that makes sense now, thanks anon
Also an overlap with a single stream shouldn't mean shit to jp.

>>25848261
Trannieseethe

>>25848132
nigger, it was an imaginary scenario where she was doing a karaoke. This is a zatsudan

>>25848243
She's inoffensive, entertaining, and puts in a ton of work, so dramafags are naturally seething that they can't find anything legitimate to whine about

>>25848243
they are afraid of Koyo's tummy

>>25848276
>Suisei is back
>Aqua, Shion and Ayame are back
>Marine is back
>Pekora is back
>HoloX 3D debut week
>Holo summer events

Well Nijichinks, you had a fun few weeks I guess

>>25848301
Wait, you're not even watch the stream?

>>25848132
Hololive is a joke
They can't even beat Salome's debuff number kek

>>25848367
kill yourself, go back to your Discord, nigger

>>25848301
It's yakiniku grilling zatsudan

>>25848364
>Watch streams
Whenever someone says something blatantly false, assume they don't watch streams. Then assume they're blatantly lying for (you)s.

>>25848320
>>25848331
>>25848340
>S-SHES THE SECOND COMING OF CHUUBA JESUS!
koyofagbros... The delusion is going through the roof!

I'm curious how well GuraShion are gonna do this week. Still don't know yet what game they're playing but I wouldn't be surprised if it was MK or CH51

>>25848392
stay mad

>>25848364
Why the fuck would I watch suisei?

>>25848388
>copying Salome
Shameless

>>25848431
>>25848384

>>25848364
I only watch niji anon.
Holowhores are not my type.

>>25848243

>>25848388
How much did Salome get on that stream again? Not 40k that's for sure

>>25848430
Cause she's the best.

>>25848401
It's going to be one of those for sure. Also I'm high on hopium expecting a song collab

>>25847445
you never watch her didn't you. it's not surprising

>>25848457
When did this whole Holowhore start?

>>25848431
You probably don't know that Suisei is a yakiniku addict.

>>25848430
Because you're not a seething gachikoi

>>25848461
Why would anyone "seethe" about 3F streams exactly?

>>25848186
I wonder what’s Pekora weight now. Last we seen of her weight it’s somewhere 65kg
Fat rabbit

>>25848457
But Suisei is an honourary Niji, anon.

>>25846116

I know this caused controversy with faggots, but damn it looks like a nice package.

>>25848243
There's a Koyoschizo and an arguably equally annoying white knight Koyofag who bites his bait every single fucking time

>>25848469
>>25848493
hah good joke but seriously, why would I watch suisei exactly?

>>25848485
And?
Didn't change the fact that she is copying Salome's idea.

>>25848522
holy tourist

>>25848508
The game is TW, so Holo+TW gets flame naturally.

>>25848431
What?

>>25848515
This but unironically, koyoschizo is annoying but easily ignored.
The white knight koyofag though, that retard is on the level of teamates with how much he puts her on a pedestal for pretty much doing nothing that amazing.

>>25848253
>friday debuff
what? why friday a debuff?

>>25848551
ogey schizo

>>25848536
Why do Hoshiyomi always bite bait

>>25848522
What? I didn’t know Salome grill meat
Did you pull this out of your ass? Link that stream

>>25848554
Just cope, don't mind it anon
>>25848570
Insecurities anon

>>25848465
Holy shit Kobo

>>25848471
of course I never watch Nijisanji after other than Lulu and Era.
was she open about that shit on stream?

>>25848570
why are you ban evading?

>>25848554
I mean even Salome got lower number on Friday

>>25845742
Fuck you Pekobee, you lucky bastard fat fuck

>>25848570
How do you know it's a hoshiyomi? What he said was so retarded that people go out of their way to reply to him.

>>25848617
I'm not the guy you were arguing with

>not even 40k
kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bny32F5cuJg

Ayamy 3D

>>25848554
Generally because normalfags and salarymen forced to after-work parties. Merch and shit isn't cheap.

>>25848633
he's samefagging just ignore him

>>25848465
>Kobokeks
they built different huh. no wonder quality in this basket weaving forum plummet after her debut. they remind me of peko spammer in old days.

>>25848633
Just don't reply. Stop feeding trolls unless you're a weirdo that gets dopamine from doing so.

>>25848243
There was the whole leech off Salome thing but she apologized for it so anyone still going after her for that is a schizo.

>>25848657
I will watch this just for sex

>>25848536
Did she stream anything related to yakiniku before?
If not why she doing this stream after salome?
What a coincidence isn't it.

>>25848633
>everyone that disagrees with me is a schizo

>>25848507
Suisei is just too powerful for even holoantis to hate her
Probably helps that she debuted a month after Mito and clawed her way up from DIY-avatar 2view

>>25848478
it's another forced meme like muh "holobronies".
It's cringe a f so no one else picks it up, but it's very easy to identify nijiniggers thanks to that.

>>25848113
sana birthday? Maybe 20k.

>>25848243
I don't know what schizos you are talking about, but recently Koyori had a small drama. During Salome's 1M, Koyori shill her stream on Twitter with words like
>Oujou-sama is the hot topic these days, but did you know that I play ...
IIRC some Salomefags don't like this and so the tweet has been deleted. Though I have never confirmed this last part.

>>25848693
Ok I am extremely confused right now what the fuck is this schizo rambling about? I don’t think Salome ever had a yakiniku stream

>>25848708
Lukewarm bait

>>25848522
>salome invented yakiniku
kys

>>25848605
She’s really strong but it’s a bit misleading. May had her tourist central PvZ streams and most importantly, had her termination saga that resulted in her massive spike in popularity. A lot of people checking in and chatting about the situation and so on

>>25848693
just admit you are a newfag anon, no one's gonna laugh at you

https://youtu.be/UZpcLq2yiDE
She’s back… after all this time, she’s finally back…

>>25848577
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjd62138_zk

>>25848612
yeah. openly stated she is bi often (lean toward girl) but good things about her is she never going further that that. 2bh pretty she is chill person

marine 8K waiting

>>25848522
https://youtu.be/17AmAEXUy-o
Fuwa streamed the yakiniku game days before Salome did though
If anything, Salome copied Fuwa

>>25848741
it was nijiniggers spamming her replies with "leech" that caused her to apologize, to her fans btw for causing controversy, not for the tweet itself.
It was meant to reference an inside joke that she played tsubo oji with an ojousama dialect back in February.
Like every other Niji liver, Salome doesn't keep her fanbase in line, so I stopped watching her after that.

>>25848847
45k at best

>>25848765
>holokeks never watch stream
https://youtu.be/Zjd62138_zk
What a surprise.

>>25848741
it was actually dramafags, it's buried by now but you were able to find it just searching for her name on twitter, i remember it because he edited koyo to have a gun on the thumbnail, and a couple of low grade matome sites picked it up, but i think the highest one of those got was like 300 retweets, so it didn't manage to spread too far

go back to your Discord, trannies

>5/11 HoloENs got over 10k

What the fuck happened today? Could be 6/11 if Bae actually hits 10k with her karaoke.

>>25848741
>Is fine if niji shit on holo
>Isnt fine if Holo shit on niji
Let see if those newfags of vbtubers have the balls to shit gura tweets or when she streams, to realize how agressive and toxic the chumbuds can be

>>25848861
leeching from my man fuwa, salowhore is shameless

>>25847803
Unfortunately no

>>25848871
yes I dont watch shit

>>25848886
How many boogeymen do we have on this thread now my dear anon?

>>25848693
It was a running gag that she kept inviting other hololive members to go for yakiniku because she liked it so much, at one point trying to convince them to travel miles to get it in the middle of a snowstorm

>>25848554
Someone made a chart showing that Friday is the day with the lowest viewership. Monday is the next lowest viewership day and Saturday is the highest as far as I remember

>>25848861
umm.. salomekeks, why is your oshi copying fuwa?

>>25848943
it's not a boogeyman when it's the truth. Every day at the same hour people come here to shitpost about Salome

>>25846899
use one of the chat extensions, like hyperchat. i'm sure there are others as well, but i usually hide chat anyways

>>25848522
>>25848861
same with Roberu grilled meat a day before her
stop copying our winning son

>>25848871
No shit why would I suddenly watch a Niji

>>25848964
With the * that Fridays still used to have Niji3D debuts and other events which pad overall numbers
but normal streams were getting lower numbers.

>>25848999
And are those "people in the room with us right now?

>>25849065
yes, you
faggot

Hoshikage Lapis ... and Mare debut-ing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZpcLq2yiDE
~2.5k

Which is a bit lower than she had for her previous graduation.

>>25849065
Yes faggot! It's (You)!

>>25848904
One of them actually did do a shark bit on stream and literally nobody cared
The only thing I remember chumbuds ever doing was spamming Fubuki when she got passed in subs

>>25849102
i'm sorry, but who?

>>25848657
jesas, the jiggle physics need some tuning
collision model seems ok. her arm aren't clipping into her melons

>>25848693
You do know that the game only released a few days ago, right?

>>25848862
But with drama that small, it's possible that Salome herself didn't know that the drama even exist.

Susan supports Salome.

>>25849125
Sephira Su

>Suisei stream died
Here comes the funnel

>>25849194
Oh Lulu's sister

https://twitter.com/Lauren_iroas/status/1535243880337391617
suspended again
japanese news
https://www.sponichi.co.jp/entertainment/news/2022/06/10/kiji/20220610s00041000519000c.html

>>25849189
oh nyo, what a pity

>>25849251
Korea Nippleman....

You guys really arguing about the most pointless shit huh? Where’s the number?

>>25849194
who?

>>25849251
nippleman...

>>25849251
That's not a suspension that's a three day vacation lmao

>>25849251
What did he actually say.

>>25849189
She won't beat salome anyways.

>>25848657
AYAMY MAMY MY MILK IS COMING OUT

>>25849251
nipplebros...

>>25848899
Is today burger independent day?

>>25848833
>openly stated she is bi often
that's already crossing the line anon...

>>25849122
americans are very agressive.

>>25849189
>suomenkielinen Youtube
Hyi kauheaa.

>>25849194
Dammmmn, that was a hell of a long time.
She looks very similar too, same color scheme and the tarot segment and that sheep thing.

>>25849297
we really should change the name of this thread to NN - Numbers and News

>>25849178
It’s just a case of the fanbase getting uppity without the streamer knowing
Man I still feel embarrassed being a nousagi, knowing my fanbase used to raid every Holo new outfit stream for 2 years

>>25849251
holy shit just fire that guy

>>25849322
He said Koreaniggers can't play FPS games for shit

>>25849065
you, faggot
yes

>>25849251

>>25849251
Nipplebro..

>>25849251
Literally how hard it is to NOT say something that could get you banned?

>>25849251
shareholder gonna vote him out

>>25849251
oh no no no no not my niji shares please i wanna be rich please do not tank I SPENT MY WHOLE LIFE SAVINGS FOR IT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>25849251
How is this newsworthy?

>>25849329
Oh yeah? Clearly this is foolproof evidence of Susan-Riku collusion aimed directly at Hololive. Bots aren't enough to deal with a buffed first army member. Due to Susan's intervention, I can calculate that her 30k would have been at least ten times higher without Youtube actively sabotaging her stream; that is, Suisei in reality had 300k viewers today. The stream had to be axed so Susan could keep graphs looking normal, so you won't find any evidence there, but trust me dude, that's what happened.

The only VSPO still a 3 view has started playing FF14....

>>25849297
Here are numbers, there's already millions of my potential children spilled all over the floor because of ayamy

>>25846899
Live tL should do the job...

>>25849251
Can Kim just do the world a favour and flatten Seoul already

>>25849189
>filename: Salome is afraid
Afraid of what? 40k stream?

>>25849444
He's a real gamer so he is used to gamer words.

>>25849251
Fuck Korean

>>25849251
Nijisanji gonna die , ah my cry..

>>25849251
man I feel sorry for the dude...

oohhh marine gets to play passpartout 2 early? She sounds weird though.

>>25849503
>publicly traded company
Everything will be newsworthy if it blows up. Enjoy investor hell.

>>25849546
>39k stream
Fixed

Tourists out.

>>25849377
Pekora calls out nousagi all the time, she does egosa quite a bit.
I don't think I've ever seen a Niji liver do that.

back to your Discord

>>25849522
Toto is anti-numbers
she does everything in her power to debuff herself

>streams with some scary looking dudes every other game
>never plays what everyone else is playing
>rarely collabs with vspo
>never says anything when she does